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ุงู„ู…ุงูˆุฑูŠูˆู†ุŒ ูˆุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ุงูˆุฑูŠูŠู†ุŒ ูˆุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู‡ุงุฌุฑูˆุง ู…ุคุฎุฑู‹ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุจู„ุงุฏ.
maori, non-maori, teachers who had recently immigrated to the country.
ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ ููŠ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
from all countries all over the world.
ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ู…ุญุงุฏุซุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุฌุฑูŠู†ุงู‡ุง ู…ุนู‡ู… ู…ุชุดุงุจู‡ุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุง.
the conversations that we had with them were very similar.
ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุนู„ู…ุชู‡ุง ูƒุงู† ูู‚ุท ู„ุฃู†ูƒ ู…ุงูˆุฑูŠ.
and I think one of the things that I learned was just because you are maori.
ู‡ุฐุง ู„ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู†ูƒ ุณูˆู ุชูƒูˆู† ุทุจูŠุนูŠู‹ุง ู…ุนู„ู…ู‹ุง ุฃูุถู„ ู„ุทู„ุงุจ ุงู„ู…ุงูˆุฑูŠ.
it does not mean to say that you are naturally going to be a better teacher of maori students.
ุฅู†ูƒ ุชุฌู„ุจ ู…ุนู‡ุง ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุนุชู‚ุฏุงุช ุงู„ู†ุงู‚ุตุฉ ู†ูุณู‡ุง ุบุงู„ุจู‹ุง.
you bring with it those same deficit beliefs often.
ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฏูŠู… ู…ุน ุฏูˆุงู…ุฉ ู„ุทู„ุงุจ ุงู„ู…ุงูˆุฑูŠ.
that perpetuate with spiral for maori students.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ู… ูŠู‡ู… ู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุงูˆุฑูŠ ุฃูˆ ู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ุงูˆุฑูŠ.
so it did not matter whether you are maori or whether you are non-maori.
ุณูˆุงุก ูƒู†ุช ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑู‹ุง ุญุฏูŠุซู‹ุง ุฃูˆ ูƒู†ุช ู‚ุฏ ูˆู„ุฏุช ููŠ ู†ูŠูˆุฒูŠู„ู†ุฏุง.
whether you are a recent immigrant or who you had been born in New Zealand.
ูƒุงู†ุช ู„ุง ุชุฒุงู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ูุฑุตุฉ ู„ู„ุญู„ูˆู„ ูุถู„ุงู‹ ุนู† ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุงุช.
there was still the opportunity for solutions as well as problems.
ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠ ูƒุงู†
the second question I think was
ู…ุง ูˆุฌุฏู†ุงู‡ ู…ู† ุญูŠุซ ุงู„ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู†ูŠ.
what we have found in terms of the professional development.
ูŠุชุนูŠู† ุนู„ูŠู‘ ุฃู† ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู† ุงู„ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู†ูŠ ู„ู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ูŠุชุจุน.
I have to say that the professional development for the teachers follows.
ู…ุง ุฃุฎุจุฑู†ุง ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ุจู…ุง ูŠุนู…ู„ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู‡ู….
what students told us what work for them.
ูˆู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูุฅู†ู†ุง ู†ุชุจุน ุงู„ู…ุจุงุฏุฆ ู†ูุณู‡ุง.
and so we follow that same principles.
ุฅู†ู‡ ู†ู‡ุฌ ู…ุชูƒุงู…ู„ ุฌุฏู‹ุง.
it is a very integrated approach.
ุฅู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุทุงุฆุฑุŒ ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุทุงุฆุฑุŒ ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุทุงุฆุฑ.
it is not that bird, that bird, and that bird.
ูˆุณุฃุชุฑูƒ ุงู„ุทุงุฆุฑ ุฎุงุฑุฌู‹ุง.
and I will leave bird out.
ู„ู† ูŠุนู…ู„ ุฐู„ูƒ.
that will not work.
ุฅู†ู‡ ูƒู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุนู‹ุง ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุดุงู…ู„ุฉ ูˆู…ุชูƒุงู…ู„ุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุง.
it is all of it together in a very holistic and integrated way.
ูˆู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู†ูŠ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู†ุชุจุนู‡.
and so the professional development that we follow.
ูŠุณุชุฎุฏู… ุฃุฏู„ุฉ ูƒุซูŠุฑุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ.
uses very much evidence of student outcomes .
ุงู„ู…ุนุฐุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุณู…ุงุญ ู„ู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ุจุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุฃุซูŠุฑุŒ ูˆุงู„ู†ููˆุฐ.
sorry to allow the teachers to reflect on the impact, the influence.
ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช ู…ู† ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ.
that the teaching is having on those groups of students.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูุฅู†ู‡ ู…ุณุชู…ุฑุŒ ูˆู…ุชูƒุฑุฑุŒ ูˆู…ุณุชู†ุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฏู„ูŠู„.
so it is ongoing, it iterative, it is evidenced based.
ูƒู…ุง ูŠุชู… ุงู„ุฅุฎุจุงุฑ ุจู‡ ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ุงู„ุฏู„ูŠู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู†ุดุฆู‡.
and it also is informed by the evidence that it generates.
ุฃุฌู„.
yeah.
ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ู„ูƒ ุฃู†ุง ุฌูˆูŠุณ.
thank you I am Joyce.
ุฃุฑุฏุช ุฃู† ุฃุณุฃู„ ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู† ูˆุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน.
I wanted to ask what is the role of parents and the community.
ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃููƒุงุฑ ู„ุง ุชุชุฃุซุฑ ูู‚ุท ุจุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู†.
because a lot of these ideas are not only impacted by the teachers.
ุงู„ุฑุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุณู…ุนู‡ุง ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„ ุชุตู†ุน ูุฑู‚ู‹ุง ูƒุจูŠุฑู‹ุง ุฌุฏู‹ุง.
the messages that children hear from home makes a very big difference.
ุจุดุฃู† ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงุณุชู…ุฑุงุฑู‡ู… ููŠ ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
on how they continue to see the world.
ู„ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู‚ุฏ ูŠุณู…ุนูˆู† ุงู„ู‚ุตุฉ ุจุดูƒู„ ู…ุฎุชู„ู ุจุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌ.
because they may hear the story differently outside.
ู„ูƒู† ู…ุง ูŠู†ูุฐู‡ ุงู„ุขุฎุฑูˆู† ูŠุชูƒุฑุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู†ุฒู„ุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ู… ูŠู…ูŠู„ูˆู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุงุนุชู‚ุงุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ูุชุฑุฉ ุทูˆูŠู„ุฉ.
but what others are enforcing is repeated at home, they will tend to believe that for a long time.
ูˆุฑุจู…ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ู„ู…ุฑุก ุชูŠุณูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุฃุณุฑุน ุฅุฐุง ุชู… ุฅุดุฑุงูƒ ุงู„ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู† ูˆุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน.
and maybe one can facilitate change faster if parents and the community is involved.
ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ู„ูƒ.
thank you.
ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ู„ูƒ ุฌูˆูŠุณุŒ ุฃู†ุง ุฃุญุจ ุณุคุงู„ูƒ.
thank you Joyce, I love your question.
ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ู…ู‡ู… ุญู‚ู‹ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ูˆุงู„ุฏุฉ. ุฃู†ุง ุฌุฏุฉ.
I think the thing that is really important is that I am a parent. I am grandparent.
ุฅู†ู†ุง ุฌู…ูŠุนู‹ุง ุขุจุงุก ูˆุฃู…ู‡ุงุช ูˆู†ุฑูŠุฏ ู„ุฃุทูุงู„ู†ุง ูˆุฃุญูุงุฏู†ุง ุงู„ุฃูุถู„ ุฌุฏู‹ุง.
we are all parents and we want for our children and for our grandchildren the very best.
ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงู‚ู ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงุนุชุงุฏุช ุฅุซุงุฑุฉ ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…ูŠ ุฏุงุฆู…ู‹ุง.
and I guess one of the situations that always used to interest me.
ู‡ูˆ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠุธู‡ุฑ ุงู„ุขุจุงุก ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุนู„ู† ุนู†ู‡ู…ุŒ ูˆุบูŠุฑ ู…ุฏุนูˆูŠู† ุฌูŠุฏู‹ุง ููŠ ู†ูŠูˆุฒูŠู„ู†ุฏุง ุนู„ู‰ ุฃูŠ ุญุงู„.
is why do parents turn up unannounced, uninvited well in New Zealand anyway.
ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฃุทูุงู„ู‡ู… ูŠู„ุนุจูˆู† ุงู„ุฑูŠุงุถูŠุฉ.
when their children are playing sports.
ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ูŠุธู‡ุฑูˆู† ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุฏุนูˆูŠู† ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุนู„ู† ุนู†ู‡ู….
why do they turn up uninvited unannounced.
ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠุดุงุฑูƒ ุฃุทูุงู„ู‡ู… ููŠ ุงู„ุฃู†ุดุทุฉ ุงู„ุซู‚ุงููŠุฉ.
when their children are engaged in cultural activities.
ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ุง ูŠุธู‡ุฑูˆู† ูุนู„ูŠู‹ุง.
why do they actually not turn up.
ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุฎุทุงุจ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุงุจู†ูƒ.
when they have a letter saying I want to talk about your son's behavior.
ุฃุนู†ูŠ ู…ุง ู†ุญุงูˆู„ ูุนู„ู‡ ููŠ ู†ูŠูˆุฒูŠู„ู†ุฏุง
I mean what we are trying to do in New Zealand
ูŠู†ุชุดุฑ ูุนู„ูŠู‹ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน.
is actually spread out to the community.
ู„ูƒู† ุฃูŠุถู‹ุง ู„ุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ูŠุตู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ.
but also to have the community reaching into the school.
ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ูƒูˆุงู„ุฏุฉุŒ ูˆุฌุฏุฉ.
because I think as a parent, as a grandparent.
ุฃู†ุง ู…ุชุนุจุฉ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฏุงุฑุณ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู‚ูˆู„ ู„ูŠ ู…ุง ูŠุฌุจ ูุนู„ู‡ ุญูŠุงู„ ุชุนู„ูŠู… ุทูู„ูŠ.
I am a little bit tired of schools telling me what to do about my child's education.
ู…ุน ุฐู„ูƒ ุฅุฐุง ุฃุฑุงุฏุช ุงู„ุงู†ุฎุฑุงุท ู…ุนูŠ.
however if they want to engage with me.
ุจุญูŠุซ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุงู‡ู…ุฉ ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุชู‚ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ุตูŠุฑ ูƒุดุฑูŠูƒ ู…ุณุงูˆู.
so that I can contribute in self determining way as an equal partner.
ุฅุฐู‹ุง ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู†ุง ุณูˆู ู†ุตู†ุน ุงู„ูุงุฑู‚ ู‡ู†ุง.
then I think we are going to make the difference here.
ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุขูˆู†ุฉ ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ุฑุญู„ุฉ ุงู„ุฎุงู…ุณุฉ.
at the moment with phase five.
ูˆุณูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ุญู‚ู‹ุง ุฃู† ู†ุณู…ุน ู…ุง ู„ุฏู‰ ุฏุงู†ูŠุงู„ ู„ูŠู‚ูˆู„ู‡ ุนู† ุฐู„ูƒ.
and it would be really interesting to hear what Daniel has to say about that.
ู„ูƒู† ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฑุญู„ุฉ ุงู„ุฎุงู…ุณุฉุŒ ู†ุญู† ู†ุนู„ู… ุชู…ุงู…ู‹ุง ู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู…ุฏุงุฑุณ ุชุตู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฒู„.
but at phase five, we absolutely know if we can get the schools reaching out to the homes.
ูˆุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฒู„ ุชุตู„.
and the homes reaching in.
ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ู…ุถุงุนูุฉ ุงู„ุชุฃุซูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุตู†ุนู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู….
we can double the effect that we can make in education.
ูˆุจุฏุฃู†ุง ุฅุธู‡ุงุฑ ุฐู„ูƒ ููŠ ู…ุฌุงู„ุงุช ู…ุญูˆ ุงู„ุฃู…ูŠุฉ.
and we are beginning to show that in the areas of literacy.
ููŠ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ูˆุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ุฏุงุฑุณ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุนู…ู„ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง.
in some of the areas and some of the schools that we are working.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฌูˆูŠุณ ุฃู† ู…ุง ุชุณุฃู„ ุนู†ู‡ ู‡ูˆ ูู‚ุท ููŠ ุบุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ.
so I think Joyce what you are asking is just absolutely critical.
ู‡ูˆ ุชุชูˆูŠุฌ ู„ู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู†ุณุฃู„ ููŠู‡ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ ุญู‚ู‹ุง ุงู„ุขู†.
it is the icing on the cake and it is the place that we really asking those questions now.
ู†ุนู… ุณูŠุฏูŠ.
yes sir.
ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุชุทุฑู‚ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ู…ู‡ู…ุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ู†ูˆุงุฌู‡ู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ููŠ ูƒู„ ู…ูƒุงู†.
just to touch on a very important problem that we are facing in education all over.
ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ุนุงุฏุฉู‹ ู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ุงุชูู‹ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ูŠุนู†ูŠ ูƒุงุฑุซุฉ.
and that is usually a phone from the school means disaster.
ู†ุนู….
yes.
ุงู„ุทูู„ ู„ุง ูŠูุนู„ ุงู„ุฎุงุต ุจู‡ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุฎุงุต ุจู‡ุง.
the kid is not doing his or her.
ู†ุนู….
yes.
ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุจุดูƒู„ ุตุญูŠุญ.
job properly.
ู†ุนู….
yes.
ุฅู†ู†ุง ู„ุง ู†ุชุตู„ ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ุจุงู„ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู† ู„ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุงุจู†ูƒ ุฃุฏู‰ ุนู…ู„ุงู‹ ูุงุฆู‚ู‹ุง.
we never call the parents to say today your kid did a super job.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูุฅู† ุดูŠุฆู‹ุง ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠู‹ุง ุชุชุทุฑู‚ูˆู† ุฅู„ูŠู‡ ุญู‚ู‹ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฐู„ูƒ.
so a major thing that you really touch upon is that.
ุฅู†ู†ุง ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูˆู† ูˆุงู„ุฅุฏุงุฑูŠูˆู† ู„ุง ู†ูุชุญ ุฃุจูˆุงุจู‹ุง ูƒุงููŠุฉ ู„ู„ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู† ู„ู„ู…ุดุงุฑูƒุฉ.
we teachers and administrators do not open the doors enough for parents to get involved.
ุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู† ุชูุนู„ูˆุง ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุณูŠูุงุฌุฆูƒู… ุฑุฏ ุงู„ูุนู„.
once you do, you will be surprised by the reaction.
ู†ุนู….
yes.
ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ู„ูƒ.
thank you.
ู†ุนู…. ุฃู†ุง ุฃุชูู‚ ู…ุนูƒ ุชู…ุงู…ู‹ุง.
yes. I absolutely agree with you.
. ุงุณู…ูŠ ุณุงู…ุฏุงู†ูŠ.
. my name is Samdani.
ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ุฌุฒูŠู„ุงู‹ ู„ูƒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ู‚ุฏู…ุช ุนุฑุถู‹ุง ุฑุงุฆุนู‹ุง.
thank you very much you made a wonderful presentation.
ุฃูˆุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุนุฑู ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ู† ุญูŠุซ ุงู„ุชุนุงู…ู„ ู…ุน ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ.
I would like to know that in terms of dealing with the students.
ูƒูŠู ุชุชุนุงู…ู„ูˆู† ุญู‚ู‹ุง ู…ุน ุชุนู„ูŠู… ุงู„ุฒู…ูŠู„.
how do you really deal with the fellow education.
ู…ู† ุญูŠุซ ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุงู„ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุงู„ู…ุฎู„ ู„ู„ุทู„ุงุจ.
in terms of managing the disrupting behavior of the students.
ู‡ุฐุง ุณุคุงู„ ุขุฎุฑ ุฑุงุฆุน.
that is another great question.
ุงู„ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฃุชูŠ ู…ู†ูƒู… ุฃูŠู‡ุง ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู„ู‡ุง ุตุฏู‰ู‹ ุญู‚ู‹ุง.
the questions that are coming from you people really resonate.
ู…ุน ุงู„ุฑุญู„ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง.
with the journey that we have had.
ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุงู„ุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุตูŠุฑุฉ ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู„ู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ู‚ูŠู…ุฉ ุณุคุงู„ูƒ.
and I think the short answer and it is not to devalue your question.
ุงู„ุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุตูŠุฑุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠู‚ุถูŠ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ููŠ ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุนู„ู… ุฃุตูˆู„ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู….
the short answer is that when teachers spend time managing the pedagogy.
ูŠูƒูˆู† ุนู„ูŠู‡ู… ูุนู„ูŠู‹ุง ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุงู„ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุฃู‚ู„ ูƒุซูŠุฑู‹ุง.
they actually have to manage behavior a lot less.
ูˆุฃู†ุชู… ุชู†ุธุฑูˆู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุดุฎุต ุนู…ู„ ู„ู…ุฏุฉ 10 ุณู†ูˆุงุช ููŠ ุงู„ุณู„ูˆูƒ.
and you are looking at somebody that for 10 years worked in behavior.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุถูŠุช 10 ุณู†ูˆุงุช ูƒู…ุนู„ู…ุฉ ุฎุงุตุฉ.
so I spent 10 years as a special educator.
ุฃุณุงุนุฏ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ููŠ ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ.
helping teachers to manage students behavior.
ูˆุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุบุงู„ุจู‹ุง ุฅู† ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ู„ูŠุณุช ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ.
and often saying that the problem was not the students.
ุฅู†ู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ุณูŠุงู‚ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุนู„ูŠู…ู‡ู… ููŠู‡.
it was in the context in which they are being taught.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุตูŠุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุณุคุงู„ูƒ ู‡ูŠ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู†ุณุงุนุฏ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู†.
so the short answer to your question is when we help teachers.
ุนู„ู… ุฃุตูˆู„ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ูุนุงู„ูŠุฉ ูุฅู† ุญูŠู†ู‡ุง ุชุฎุชููŠ ุงู„ู…ุดุงูƒู„ ุงู„ุณู„ูˆูƒูŠุฉ.
to maange the pedagogy much more effectively then the behavioral problems disappear.
ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ู„ูƒ. ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ุฌุฒูŠู„ุงู‹ ู„ูƒ.
thank you. thank you very much.
ุงู„ุขู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ูุฑุตุฉ ู„ูƒ ู„ุทุฑุญ ุณุคุงู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุจูŠุจ.
now we have a chance for you to ask question to Pape.
ูˆุฅุนุทุงุฆู‡ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุชูƒ ุจุดุฃู† ู…ุง ุณู…ุนุชู‡ ูู‚ุท.
and give him your comments on what you just heard.
ู„ุง ุชูˆุฌุฏ ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ.
no questions.