Fails addition that llama-3.0 can solve

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by SaisExperiments - opened

Out of curiosity I decided to sum up the total cost of all the games on my steam wishlist.
I got to a final equation of

28.95+67.95+14.75+99.95+7.39+42.99+14.75+35.99+26.29+89.95+14.75+7.39+71.49+59.95+49.95+89.95+99.99+54.95+36.99+69.95+34.95+29.95+39.95+49.95+89.95+28.99+104.95+89.95+56.95+99.95+17.99+34.99+17.99+7.39+21.99+35.99+99.99+43.59+61.99

Using lmsys arena I found athene got this question wrong every time I asked the model whereas llama-3.0-70B-Instruct gets it right everytime.

Athene-70B

Here's the correct total:

28.95 + 67.95 + 14.75 + 99.95 + 7.39 + 42.99 + 14.75 + 35.99 + 26.29 + 89.95 + 14.75 + 7.39 + 71.49 + 59.95 + 49.95 + 89.95 + 99.99 + 54.95 + 36.99 + 69.95 + 34.95 + 29.95 + 39.95 + 49.95 + 89.95 + 28.99 + 104.95 + 89.95 + 56.95 + 99.95 + 17.99 + 34.99 + 17.99 + 7.39 + 21.99 + 35.99 + 99.99 + 43.59 + 61.99 =

1,532.91

Let me know if you need any further assistance!

Llama-3.0-70B-Instruct:

Let me add up those numbers for you:

28.95 + 67.95 = 96.90
96.90 + 14.75 = 111.65
111.65 + 99.95 = 211.60
211.60 + 7.39 = 218.99
218.99 + 42.99 = 261.98
261.98 + 14.75 = 276.73
276.73 + 35.99 = 312.72
312.72 + 26.29 = 339.01
339.01 + 89.95 = 428.96
428.96 + 14.75 = 443.71
443.71 + 7.39 = 451.10
451.10 + 71.49 = 522.59
522.59 + 59.95 = 582.54
582.54 + 49.95 = 632.49
632.49 + 89.95 = 722.44
722.44 + 99.99 = 822.43
822.43 + 54.95 = 877.38
877.38 + 36.99 = 914.37
914.37 + 69.95 = 984.32
984.32 + 34.95 = 1019.27
1019.27 + 29.95 = 1049.22
1049.22 + 39.95 = 1089.17
1089.17 + 49.95 = 1139.12
1139.12 + 89.95 = 1229.07
1229.07 + 28.99 = 1258.06
1258.06 + 104.95 = 1363.01
1363.01 + 89.95 = 1452.96
1452.96 + 56.95 = 1509.91
1509.91 + 99.95 = 1609.86
1609.86 + 17.99 = 1627.85
1627.85 + 34.99 = 1662.84
1662.84 + 17.99 = 1680.83
1680.83 + 7.39 = 1688.22
1688.22 + 21.99 = 1710.21
1710.21 + 35.99 = 1746.20
1746.20 + 99.99 = 1846.19
1846.19 + 43.59 = 1889.78
1889.78 + 61.99 = 1951.77

The grand total is: 1951.77

Llama-3.0-8B-Instruct

Let me calculate the sum for you:

28.95 + 67.95 = 96.9
96.9 + 14.75 = 111.65
111.65 + 99.95 = 211.6
211.6 + 7.39 = 218.99
218.99 + 42.99 = 261.98
261.98 + 14.75 = 276.73
276.73 + 35.99 = 312.72
312.72 + 26.29 = 339.01
339.01 + 89.95 = 428.96
428.96 + 14.75 = 443.71
443.71 + 7.39 = 451.1
451.1 + 71.49 = 522.59
522.59 + 59.95 = 582.54
582.54 + 49.95 = 632.49
632.49 + 89.95 = 722.44
722.44 + 99.99 = 822.43
822.43 + 54.95 = 877.38
877.38 + 36.99 = 914.37
914.37 + 69.95 = 984.32
984.32 + 34.95 = 1019.27
1019.27 + 29.95 = 1049.22
1049.22 + 39.95 = 1089.17
1089.17 + 49.95 = 1139.12
1139.12 + 89.95 = 1229.07
1229.07 + 28.99 = 1257.96
1257.96 + 104.95 = 1362.91
1362.91 + 89.95 = 1452.86
1452.86 + 56.95 = 1509.81
1509.81 + 99.95 = 1609.76
1609.76 + 17.99 = 1627.75
1627.75 + 34.99 = 1662.74
1662.74 + 17.99 = 1680.73
1680.73 + 7.39 = 1688.12
1688.12 + 21.99 = 1710.11
1710.11 + 35.99 = 1746.1
1746.1 + 99.99 = 1846.09
1846.09 + 43.59 = 1889.68
1889.68 + 61.99 = 1951.67

The final sum is: 1951.67

So llama-3.0-8B is only off by 10¢ while Athene is off by 418.86
Another answer from Athene is off by 702.56
It's answers are super random

Google's Gemini app thing solves it easily, but I'm pretty sure it's using tools of some sort as the api fails the same request

Edit - I forgot to specify the correct answer 1951.77

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Thx for the feedback. Apparently the model tries to calculate the sum directly which is almost impossible to get it correct. Also the current Athene-70B is indeed im-a-little-birdie on lmsys, and athene-70b on lmsys is indeed Athene-70B-preview on HF. We haven't got to change the model name on lmsys.

When I try prompting im-a-little-birdie with the following prompt it seems to get it correct with temperature 0. With temperature 0.7 (default on arena) it seems right in most cases but occasionally off by a little bit.

Calculate step by step. 28.95+67.95+14.75+99.95+7.39+42.99+14.75+35.99+26.29+89.95+14.75+7.39+71.49+59.95+49.95+89.95+99.99+54.95+36.99+69.95+34.95+29.95+39.95+49.95+89.95+28.99+104.95+89.95+56.95+99.95+17.99+34.99+17.99+7.39+21.99+35.99+99.99+43.59+61.99
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