{"text": "### Human: Panel View firmware downgrade I am looking for help to downgrade Firmware on PV550? My HMI application was developed on 1.01 FRM. We have in stock PV550 with 3.07 and 4.02 FRM and we have no problem to download HMI application into PV, but application does'nt work properly and I don't want to start over with all tags. signedHelpNeededInNY ### Assistant: The PV550 line had a major hardware revision (many many moons ago) between the 1.XX and 2.XX firmware versions. Basically what it means is that if the current firmware is above 2.XX, it can load any firmware between 2.0 and the latest. If the current firmware is below 2.0, it can load any firmware between 1.0 and 1.07. In your case, though, just change the terminal setup in PB32 to reflect the firmware level on the new unit. PB32 will make all the changes for you and it's ready to download to your new terminal. And since you are going to a newer firmware, you don't have to worry about losing any functionality. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Asset Centre CPR9? Anyone know when Asset Centre CPR9 is coming out and available for download? I heard end of May but we are now into June. ### Assistant: I was in a class yesterday and was told that the general release was yesterday. That was from the mouth of the product manager. I would check the web downloads for it. I just checked the Software Updates page this morning. It's showing: FactoryTalk AssetCentre Server Software 9515ASTSRVRENE 2.21.00 Web Release Yesterday, the latest version was 2.00.02. Is that what you are looking for? JHutch that's it! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with tags in RS View Studio ME 4.00 Hi everyone, I'm actually migrating a Panel Builder 32 project (originally designed for a PV 550) to a RS View ME application for a PV 700 Plus. The panel is connected to a MicroLogix 1200 that handles data in a curious form. In order to have more precision in the calculations and save a large amount of memory, the variables involved in the process are scaled by the HMI allowing to the PLC to operate only with integers for later being unscaled by the HMI and presented to the user. As an example, I have a variable used as a setpoint for pH control, this variable is called PH_SP and stored in the N7:20 register of the data table in the PLC. This variable in the real format could be into the range of 5.00 pH to 7.00 pH, so in the PLC the N7:20 register contains a value from 500 to 700 (the value multiplied by 100). In order to achieve this, I've created a HMI tag called PH_STP with the following parameters: 1) MAX VALUE: 700 2) MIN VALUE: 500 3) SCALE: 0.01 4) OFFSET: 0 5) DATA TYPE: INTEGER 6) CONNECTION: ::[ML1200]N7:20 (where ML1200 is my RS Linx Enterprise shortcut). To access this tag, I'm using a NUMERIC INPUT CURSOR POINT with the following configuration: 1) NUMERIC POP UP: KEYPAD 2) MAX VALUE: 7 3) MIN VALUE: 5 4) RAMP VALUE: 0 5) DECIMAL POINT: FIXED POSITION 6) FIXED POS OUTPUT: DISPLAYED VALUE 7) DIGITS AFTER DECIMAL: 2 The display settings of this field are: 1) NUMBER OF DIGITS: 4 2) FILL LEFT WITH: NONE 3) DECIMAL PLACES: 2 So, according with the RS View help, and as far I could understood, the value that I can enter into the pop-up keypad are into the range of 5.00 to 7.00, this value is writed into the VALUE CONNECTION that in this case is PH_STP, after that is unscaled and compared with the tag's MAXIMUM and MINIMUM values and finally writed to the DATA CONNECTION (the register N7:20 in the MicroLogix 1200). The RS View help also refer that the scaling procedure is: 1) RS VIEW VALUE = (DATA SOURCE VALUE x SCALE) 2) DATA SOURCE VALUE = (RS VIEW VALUE / SCALE) So if I read 620 then the value displayed is 6.20 and if i write 6.20 the writed value must be 620. Well, the real problem occurs when I write 6.20 to my input field, the HMI displays an error saying that is impossible to write 6.20 to PH_STP because is out of the 500 to 700 range. Looks like the value wasn't be scaled just before being writed to the PLC. The curious thing about this, is that I've some other fields configured in a similar form (with the same scale factor and even other scalation factors 0.1, 0.001, etc) and are working fine. I've tried to delete the HMI tags and create it again but the problem remains. I'm a little desesperate about this, if you have any suggestion or answer to my problem, or if I'm missunderstanding the operation of the panel that I previously describe, please let me know, your replies will be very useful to me. Thanks in advance for reading my post, I'll looking forward for your answers. Regards. ### Assistant: It looks like your HMI data tag is an integer. Try changing that to a real. That will allow you an input with a decimal. good luck. I think I found an example in the Knowledge Base perfect for what you are trying: Answer ID #33870 Basically, the min/max for the HMI tag needs to be set for what you are writing to the processor, not for what the user will be typing on the screen. (You can keep the tag as an integer.) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Migration to Factory Talk ME from Panel Builder 32...White paper? Does anyone know of a good resource for information on migrating old panel builder 32 programs to Factory Talk ME? I have already transferred the program using the transfer wizard but after setting up the network I am still getting communication errors on some tags. I am probably forgetting something basic. Thank you to anyone that can help. ### Assistant: I would first check the convert.log file, which is a text file in the project folder. If there were any tags that could not be converted they will appear in the file. It sounds like your communication is correct, since some of the tags are working. There is also a guide for migrating 1400E applications in Tech Note 44265, which has some usefull information that applies to a PB32 conversion. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSVIew 32 - Descriptions in Alarm Log I am having some trouble figuring out how to get descriptions to show up in my Alarm Log in RSView 32. What I want to be logged is exactly what I have displaying in the alarm window in my HMI project. For example, I may have a tag named Xfr8_B_Faulted; but the description for that tag that would show up in my alarm window would be Transfer number 8 is faulted. Is there a way to have that description be logged in addition to the tag name? The people that are going to be looking at the logs will not always know what some of my tags mean; and it would be nice for them to be able to see that description in the log. Thanks! ### Assistant: The messages in the the Alarm Summary are completely separate from the ones in the alarm log. You define summary messages in the Alarm Summary itself. What gets logged to the alarm log file depends on what you selected in each tag's alarm setup:System Defaults - these are the canned messages that are common to all RSView32 installations everywhere in the world.User Defaults - tells alarming to use the messages that you define in Alarms-> Alarm Setup-> User MessagesCustom Message - tells alarming to use the messages that you define right here in the alarm configuration for the tag. The In Alarm messages appear on the Alarm States tab. Acknowledge and Out-Of-Alarm messages are defined on the Alarm Messages tab.Only way you could get the alarm summary and alarm log to log the same information is to define the same message in both places. Hope that helps. That is what I was afraid of. I was hoping for a bit of an easier way to get all of the alarms to show my descriptions instead of the default ones. Thanks for the help! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Abestos I can't imagine that Rockwell has abestos in anything ... but is there an official document stating so anywhere? They are doing an abestos inspection next week and the boss figures it'd be easier if we had an official document ### Assistant: I found the following internal letter that Technical Support sometimes sends out on these types of questions. See if this satisfies your boss. JHutch Dear Customer; In response to your query regarding the asbestos content of our Powerflex products, Rockwell Automation offers the following: Asbestos was eliminated from Rockwell Automation products well over twenty years ago. Today, asbestos, and any of its derivatives, is not contained within any of Rockwell Automation products nor is it used in the manufacturing of our products. I hope this addresses your concern. Sincerely, Charyl A. Fines, P.E.Vice PresidentQuality, Environmental & Safety n"}
{"text": "### Human: where is HMI board? ### Assistant: The HMI, Programmable Controllers, Motion Control and Drives boards are all contact only areas of the forums. You will need to have a TechConnect support contract (you can contact you local distributor if you wish to purchase one) and then put the associated contract number into your profile. This will give you immediate access to above mentioned areas of the forums as well as access to the Ask a Question feature and the contract level technotes in the Knowledge Base. Please click the following link for the official documention on this issue: What Knowledgebase or forum content or features do I gain by logging in? JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: XM Emonitor Gateway Hello to all the members of the forum, a great idea the creation of this forum, I have a problem with a software Rockwell, in the specific XM eMonitor gateway for DeviceNet, I can not get start, the XM Emonitor Gateway said me Close RSLinx Driver and Data map point list is empty, according to the manual XM EMonitor Gateway Getting Results Guide (XMEG-GR001D-EN-D) there are several problems by bringing the XM Gateway does not start, but already comply with all requirements of the manual and XM eMonitor Gateway does not start. I tell all you what I want to do, I have a XM modules XM120,XM440 and XM500, I have a emonitor 3.3, rslinx clasic 2.52, XM EMonitor Gateway,scheduler de emonitor, I only want to obtain datas of the XMmodules and visualizating teh datas in the emonitor, the problem is that for get the datas I need start the XM Emontor Gateway, but I can not to do. thank for you attention,I hope your answer, bye ### Assistant: EDIT: This has been moved here from the Suggestions forum. I'll be watching for traffic on this type of product to see if there is enough usage to warrant its own board. -JH Thanks for the vote of confidence, fredy! I realized when reading your post, we don't really have a good fit for this product in the current forum selection. As soon as I get done here, I'll be going into our normal monday morning meeting and we'll try to figure out if we need a new forum for EMonitor type stuff or if we want to expand an existing one to include EMonitor. The balancing act is always to try to put things in a logical location without making it impossible to navigate and keeping traffic flowing so that now board whithers away from lack of use. Later today I'll move this thread to a better location so that hopefully more folks will get a chance to see it (and help answer your questions). JHutch You need to, go into the configuration utility, choose the driver, I suggest the RSTopology, browse through and select your devicenet chain. After that upload the entire network, the save the dcf file. Finally, associate the DCF file with the XM Gateway Application. If it is empty then either the network was not uploaded, no file was associated, or you did not select the devicenet chain. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 5000 Drive C Programs Failing? We had an issue last night with the Ultra5000 drive failing on one of our Hem presses. The hempress was stuck in the lower position (Manual and Auto). Cycled power to the drive several times but couldn't get devicenet communication. So we eventually swapped the drive. As part of the swapping procedure we reloaded the C program for the Ultra 5000. After swapping the drive, the press was raising extremely slow and stalling after hem. We had to reload the C program a second time in order to get it working properly. This is the second time we have had issues with the Ultra 5000 C program. We think it might be getting stuck in a subroutine. My question is, does anyone else have issues with the C program, and are there any patches available to address this? Thanks Eric ### Assistant: If you have experience programming in C, you should check to see if the program has appropriate check statements. Typically people will use a while loop to perform some of their code. Like this: while (!StopRequested()) This type of statement can help break out of a routine that is stuck. You can also use some of the available variable tables to write diagnostic info. For example, when the program tries to run a certain piece of code, write a number to the variable table that will indicate it is running that code. This might help you troubleshoot the code. I've written many programs for the 5k and it's a really good drive, but it can be difficult to troubleshoot. n"}
{"text": "### Human: MVI-DNPSNET Communication Problem With TopServer Hi I am using Prosoft Dnp 3 Protocol Module with SLC 500 / 05 Is any one done communication between this module with OPC server here i am using Topserver having Driver DNP3 Ethernet master. But i am unable to get the data. The data rate is very slow may 15 to 20 mintues. the data is not updating frequently.Is anybody help me out. Thanks ### Assistant: First, wrong group for this, they will end up moving it.Second, since you are taking data over OPC, why not just use RSLinx as the OPC server?Third, your update rates, etc, are handled by Topserver you will most likely need to be going to there for help, the SLC is more then capable of pushing out the data much faster.Finally, since you are talking about the speed on a network, and if it does not end up being a setting in your OPC server, you should take a traffic analyzer, like wireshark and see what the data is doing and where it might be failing. Unless this is at a small shop, many network engineers and network security professionals are versed in analyzing traffic to tell you what's going on. NOTE: This has been moved to the correct place. - JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data logging 1500CE Hello and think you for opening the forum again, I can use all the help I can get :) My question:I know I can log from a 1500CE terminal to a remote pc on a network but can I just have the PV+ log on ethernet to a NAS (like an Iomega Storcenter Pro) sitting in the bottom of the panel ? I ask as I havent tried the datalogging at all yet and cant find (although I am sure its there!) any info on RA KB? as I can not find it.... A customer of mine has a PV+ and has been told its got to log to CF (which its doing at present) and/or a networked pc but cannot log to a NAS? Their IT dept have thrown there toys from there pram over connecting the PV+ to the network The unit is a 2711P-K15C6D7 PV+1500CE Many thanks.... Mark ### Assistant: It really would depend on the NAS. If the NAS looks like a regular windows share to everything else on the network, then yes, remote datalogging should work to it. If it does something else, like FTP shares or NetWare shares, etc... then no. But, really, if you aren't planning on trying to get to that data with a log viewer on a computer, I'd go with a CompactFlash card. It's a LOT cheaper and a LOT simpler to set up (you plug it in ... and you're done). JHutch Thank you for the reply... Would this NAS be suitable? or can you recommend? http://store.iomega.com/section?SID... 60&secid=76521 And if so how to set the panelview up to log to it? I don't think a CF card would store 5 years worth of data and the CF's I believe are not hot swappable. Thanks againMark No datalog is going to hold 5 years worth of data no matter where you store it. Datalogs in ME are limited to 300,000 data points. When it gets to 300,001 ... it deletes the first one. And so on and so on. And no, unfortunately, I don't have a recommendation for a NAS. As far as procedure, the datalog setup screen in Studio has an example for datalogging to a network share location. JHutch Mark, It doesn't appear that Mr Hutch gave you the answer you where looking for. I can't answer the question on the NAS, but I think Mr Hutch answered that correctly. Rather in reference to the amount of data you can store, there is another option beside the built-in datalog. Mr Hutch is correct that it is limited to 300,000 data points. Thus the amount of time you can log is based on the number of log points and how often you are logging these points. The other option is the DataStore Plus ActiveX control provide by Rockwell, which can be found on KB ID 35155. Other ActiveX controls that work on PVCE or VersaViewCE can be found on KB ID 26732. I haven't used this control, but it was suggested to me by a location Rockwell support person. You can not trend this data in the PVCE, so if you need a trend you will have to use the built-in datalog module with its limitations for the trend only. Then use DataStore Plus for long term historical data that can be analyzed with other software (i.e. Excel). Hope this helps Nat n"}
{"text": "### Human: CNC controllers by Rockwell Does Rockwell Automation offer any new CNC controllers beyond the 9/PC ### Assistant: Rockwell Automation does not make any CNC products since July, 2002. If you don't require G code or M code style programming to your operators, the motion control capabilities can easily handle most CNC style operations. Your interface would be an HMI rather than a CNC style terminal. You would basically write a move sequence duplicating what your codes were doing. Maybe this helpes:On the sample code page from Rockwell there is an example for CNC applications.Filename/ID: MMS_046451 Catalog Number: 1756 1768 2711 Title: xNC - CNC functionality for Logix processors Description: low level 9/230 type CNC functionality for Logix processors. Block Sequencer. Create RS274 type block code programs on PV+ screen or thru matching EXCEL spreadsheet Here is the link:http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/public/documents/webassets/sc_legal_info.hcst?dID=63020 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview component keyboard popup With panelview component, does anyone know a way to change the default pop up keyboard with English layout to another language, ie Russian? ### Assistant: The only method available is using a Panelview Plus CE unit and implementing an Active-X Control. This is outlined in The KnowledgeBase Article #33400. Enter the number in the search dialog and do a search by of ID n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connecting pc to Micrologix1100 Actually i need to communicate with Micrologix1100 thru ethernet using cip read and write commands which will be implemented in this dll.I need to know the format of commands (read/write) which vl enable me to communicate with ML1100 and how to do this communication.thanx ### Assistant: Rose, We have some developer resources online that can help - check out the link to How To Guides. There is other info on Ethernet/IP on the networks site, but I think the developer site is your best bet. There may be more on the ODVA website, too. you can use Rslinx as a OPC Server,your software as a client. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC5/05 Ethernet Message to Siemens Is it possible to set up a MSG read/write in a SLC 5/05 processor to communicate via Ethernet with Seimens. If so, how should the MSG be set up. I am unfamiliar with Siemens Products but I do know it is set up to Communicate via Ethernet. I have done it in RSLogix5000 with little effort, but I am at a loss when it comes to RSLogix500 and SLC 5/05 Processors. ### Assistant: Will work almost the same as contrologix. create your Write MSG Or read MSG, don't forget you have to trigger the message. Can you please explain how is it possible to send a message to siemens PLC? It is not possible use just a MSG command to communicate directly to a Siemens PLC, both are communicating via ethernet but they use different protocols, for a SLC, best practice is to use a Woodhead SST profibus module, SST-PFB-SLC, or you can use a gateway, SLC Ethernet on one side and Siemens Profinet on the other side, also from Woodhead alternative would be a CLX with a 1756-EWEB module, you can use the socket feature of the EWEB to communicate with Siemens, but it will ned some programming to get it running n"}
{"text": "### Human: AVE instruction overflow error (Logix 5000) Ver 13 Firmware 13 1756-L1 I am having a problem with generating an error in the control structure of an AVE instruction. I have an average instruction set up to average an array or real numbers. These real numbers are fed into the array but the array doesn't always have the same number of data points. Depending on how the machine is operating I can have up to 12 data points. Sometimes only 11. The error is always in position 15 of the array and my logic never gets to that array location. The help file says that an error is caused because of an overflow. In position 15 of the array when the AVE has an error it has a value of -1. ### Assistant: AVE is a file instruction, so you need to move a value into the Control.LEN to set it to 11 or 12 (the number of items you want to average). I would then try using a RES (reset) of the Control tag right before you scan the AVE instruction. All this can be on one rung that looks something like this: MOV NumItems AvgCtrl.LEN RES AvgCtrl AVE RealArray 0 CalcedAvg AvgCtrl 12 0 After it's been scanned, you should see POS = LEN (11 or 12). See the examples for other file instructions (FAL, for example) for more on the Control structure. I assume you are using a single-dimensional array of REALs (RealArray[index], for example) with a length of at least 12. (I like to create an extra element, just to be safe on prescan!) Be sure the dimension to vary is 0. Hope this helps! I didn't think of using the (res) before the instruction. I have put that in now. The (res) simply changes the .POS to zero am I correct? This will not fix the overflow issue with my array structure? So in turn it will not reset the fault of the control structure? RES resets the POS to zero, yes, but it also resets the EN bit and other bits used in controlling the instruction, so it always starts at the beginning. I'm trying to understand why it's having problems at position 15, when you are only averaging the first 11 or 12 elements. Is .POS actually getting to 15? If so, what is .LEN set to? I assume you are averaging elements [0] thru [10] or [11]. Are you trying to average starting at an index other than zero? Are any of the data in the array invalid (NaN or +/- INF -- I forget the notatioin...)? Is the destination within the array? If so, try making the destination a new REAL base tag. Can you open up the rung in question so the text of it is shown in a text-edit bar at the top of the screen, copy the text, and include it in your reply? Thanks! I have figured it out I think. I was trying to use a COP (copy) instruction to reset my array to all zeros before the next execution of the logic. I have since learned I need to uss an FLL instead. Apparently the COP was copig junk into my array thus causing the overflow. Thanks for your help on my boneheaded move!!! Creighton n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connect panelview component to controllogix The new panelview component series (PVc) has an ethernet connection on boad if the screen is 6'' or bigger.Is it possible to use it with controllogix PLC over ethernet?If so, which settings do I have to make in PVc, to connect this HMI to a controllogix PLC through a 1756 ENBT card? ### Assistant: Hello, It's not possible to work with ethernet between PanelView Component and Logix familly ( compact, Control ... ).The only way to work with Logix familly is serial with a PanelView Component. The MicroLogix & SLC 500 & PLC-5 can work with the both ( ethernet & serial ). Thanx for the reply. Might it work, using PLC5 mapping in controllogix? No, unfortunately, it won't. The comms path for a controllogix has to include the backplane and slot the processor is in. PVc doesn't have an option for putting in that information, so even with tag mapping, the comms path can't get to the processor. If you use serial, there is no comms path info to worry about, so you can get serial DF1 comms to work between a PVc and ControlLogix (you will need tag mapping, though). JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: when click Test run for FTView ME (CPR9), it did't go to test mode, but open the FTView ME Station when test run, it did't go to test mode, but open the FTView ME station, I load the MER file from the station, and it says can not load,re-start ME studio, sometime solved, sometime can not, have to re-start computer again, and test run mode only run successfully few rounds, after few rounds, it call up FTView ME statiion again. ### Assistant: Did you try this? 43140 - ME station launches when trying to create a test runtime. JHutch thanks JHutch:it works so far after I uninstall RSLinx Enterprise and re-install it, will try few times more see it solved or notI should refer to KB more often. No problem and glad I could help. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Testing Testing Am I in??:smileysad: ### Assistant: Of course I'm new to this forum, having a little problem navigating. When I hit the link you provided in your reply, it says access denied. What am I missing. Thank in advance. Also when I do figure it out, I promise to keep everybody busy. :smileytongue: Thanks again. spifldorf try again ... I don't see anything about that link and where it goes that should cause trouble. In fact, I just tried it with NO log in privileges and it still worked. JHutch PS One I get spifldorf working ok, I'm going to move this thread off to the welcome area. -edit ... typo n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView Webserver and Internet Hi I'm working whit Rsview32 and webserver but i only can used it trough an intranet. I want to know what i need to use it over internet? Please help me about it ### Assistant: I have set-up RSView32 webserver to work on the internet and would recommend you do not, without a high end firewall or vpn. My site had neither and was constantly hacked and attacked. If you don't have an IT department look for a high end internet router with a built in firewall and vpn. Also, check out the RA Know base - I think they has tech notes on this subject. A high end firewall is not going help once those ports are open. VPN is actually the only setup that is even close to reasonable, then you are back on the intranet concept. While theoretically you can have a firewall filter based on IP address and/or MAC address, which would provide some security ... I agree with Ozzy. VPN is the only real option I would trust. JHutch Not to really start trouble with you JHutch. But MAC address and IP addresses are easily spoofed, there are so many kiddy scripts/apps out there, that type of filtering is only useful internally on the LAN. In addition, SCADAs and HMIs are extremely prone to hacking. The number of vulnerabilities are incrediable. SQL Injection if they do any data logging to a database and fail to place appropriate constraints and verify backend data.All the HMI's i've worked with process Active X, the number of holes in that are rediculusly high and can not do anything about that.That's not not even talking about potential problems with the actual product itself. It does not matter if it's Rockwell's or any other system, tossing out a control system out on the internet is asking for it. Passing it through a highly secure VPN is the only viable option. I'm not arguing with you. I was just mentioning those to highlight that even though they ARE features in a firewall that are meant to be secure, I wouldn't trust them for that. VPN all the way. Sorry if I wasn't clear on how I meant that comment. JHutch No problem, I've just seen if you give even the slightest hope in that direction people will try to do it, simply because tossing a computer out on the internet is so much easier then working with an IT department or two, setting up a VPN. In some cases the IT at a place is not experienced or capable of doing so well if at all. Gentlemen, I understand we all have our own preferences, and I respect yours. But I stand by my professional opinion, I suggest a product with both a firewall and vpn. I'll also add that just because port 80 or 8080 is open does not mean your site can be hacked - millions of web servers on the internet exist and are safely accessed through these ports without the use of a VPN and without being hacked. But, for a company that wants to limit access to thier information, a VPN is a must. Best of luck, Shawn Going with Shawn here on recommending a VPNIn general, almost any will do, most firewall systems today have VPN built in, Checkpoint, Cisco, even a cheap Lynxsys Routers have a basic FW and VPN built in. However, for the purposes of managing a network, possibly passing through a larger fw, and maintaining a good IP address scheme. You still need to work with who is the network administrator, and if your a network administrator you are most likely not asking this question. Between Shawn, JHutch, and myself even if we differ on the details, come to the same recommendation. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using all 2048 bytes of memory on a 1784-PCIDS card When I use SoftLogix and place a PCIDS (DNET Scanner) card in the chassis, the sytem tells me that 500 bytes of In/Out space are available (roughly). However, if I use RSNetworx for DeviceNET, the input and output sizes are 1024 words each (or 2048 bytes). Why is there a discrepancy, and how do I get to use all 2048 bytes of in/out on the card? I understand that an external routine may be required to call a DLL to get the data, at least that's what I think needs to be done. ### Assistant: I've noticed this as well. I believe this is because Softlogix 5800 treats the PCIDS as a 1756-DNB module. Because it's emulating a Controllogix processor it's subject to the Controllogix' same limitations. If you wanted to be able to access all of the memory available in the PCIDS you would have to write your own application using I/O Linx SDK. Either that or use explicit messaging to read/write directly to the I/O image. That's a lot of data to be messaging though. Thanks, NetlinxNut, Do you (or anyone else viewing this thread) know of a readliy available DLL that already incorporates this functionality. You would think Rockwell would have created this as a means of getting the most out of the card. After all, they created the darn thing. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inview / 1747-BAS Has anyone managed to drive an Inview message display with dynamic messages generated as ASCII strings in a 1747-BAS module. I have had this running for years using the now discontinued Dataliner DL40 device. Because of the cable run length the old system was configured under RS422 protocol. Inview doesn't support RS422 only RS232/RS485. Short of fitting line drivers has anyone managed to get the RS485 option working in point-to-point mode? ### Assistant: I havent personally used one with a basic module but the Inview will work with anything that can send ASCII characters serially. RS-422 isnt a protocol, it's an electrical standard that's very close to RS-485. Dont get RS-485 confused with DH-485 which is a protocol. RS-485 and RS-422 are usually interoperable. Wikipedia explains it better than I can - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-485 Thanks a lot - appreciate your comments. I have tested an Inview connected to a Micrologix 1500 port 1 (RS-232) via 1761-NET-AIC (to convert from RS-232 to RS-485) to get long distance for installation. Micrologix port was set as ASCII; everything works fine. 1746-BAS can connect directly its port in RS-485, so I think that there will be no issue on that. Manual 2706-UM016D-EN-P shows at page 1-30 the RS-485 connection to display. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView Activation Hi Guys, When Rockwell will start using the USB Dongle activation for RSView? ### Assistant: View32 has supported FTA, and the USB Dongle since 7.2 ViewSE and ME are 5.0 CPR9 Although don't use the dongle with a versaview, the usb port doesn't supply enough power for it. Sorry, I meant RSView Studio. Last year when we bought it along with RSLogix only Logix had the key on the USB dongle. When I called the support they told me that they were working on getting away from using floppy's and instead using USB dongles. Unfortunatelly the activation for Studio at that time was still floppy based. Anything changed meantime? If yes can I change my floppy based one with a USB dongle? RSView (FactoryTalk View, now) Studio version 5 (a.k.a. CPR 9) supports FactoryTalk Activation, and you can use the USB dongle 9509-USBDONG. I noticed that we don't recommend using USB dongles on VersaView (http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=38405). n"}
{"text": "### Human: 2711P IRDA Function Hi,Does anyone know what is the function IRDA port in PVP 1250 (2711P-Txxxx? Is it for download/upload .mer file?? ### Assistant: It doesn't have a purpose. Originally, it was envisioned that it would be used for that sort of thing, but iRDA ports never really caught on and the functionality was never put into the firmware. Think of it as the PV+'s appendix. It's there, but has no real purpose! :) The following firmware release notes talks about actually removing all IRDA functionality from the firmware itself: Firmware Release Notes JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Timer creation in RSView Hi, I'm reading a digital tag from a 3rd party (non-Rockwell) controller. Based on the status of these digital tags, I have to start a millisecond timer and stop it when the status of these tags changes again. There are no flagwords in the controller which give such timer values and the source code in the controller prevents us from creating such timers. Hence my only option is to create a timer in RSView based on the status of some of the digital tags. Is this possible to create in RSView? ### Assistant: FTView ME definitely does not have timers built in. Maybe you could do something like that in SE if you created a custom VBA applet. You larger concern should be the controller limiting your process. Retentive timers are exactly what you need, and without an rslogix based controller you will have to create one. Which RSView product are you using? Does your timer need to be accurate to the millisecond? As long as you don't need a great deal of accuracy, and if this is SE or RSView32, you could use a derived tag timer. See tech note 8066 for an example. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix drives only phasing up to 3... I have 6 drives, on a 1756-M08SE, this is a new startup. Why are my K6K drives only phasing up to 3? ### Assistant: Are all feedback cables connected? Also is the correct motor selected in RS 5000? Any errors in logix? http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=33524 As mentioned check feedback cables - and all axis definition's - The correct Drive's and Motors should be selectedLook for error symbol in RSLogix5000 next to axis and drive. Phase 3 is the part when the network checks the configuration - Your network will be OK as this is checked before this phase. Hope this helps One way to determine which axis may be causing the issue is to go off line and move all but one axis to the ungrouped area. You don't have to move any fiber optic cables; leave then as they are. Then download. If it phases to 4, then add another axis until it only phases to 3. Then, you at least know there is something wrong with that axis. Check what is configured in software matches what you have hardware for that axis. Instead of downloading all the time, write some code to set the inhibitmode from an axis:SSVClass name = AxisInstance = your axis nameAttribute name = InhibitAxisSource = tag from type DINT; (0=not inhibit, 1 = inhibit) After changing the value from the source tag, kinetics will phase up again. Hello, Stage 3 means that your Drive / motor declaration is not what you physically have.Check the set-up of your motor in the axis property. Another possibility is that you have set-up in your Sercos card to stay at stage 3.Check in Interface Sercos that parameter ( default 4 ). bye You need to verify the version of firwmare of the card sercos, if the controller's firmware goes v.16 and sercos v.15 you need to go up the version of the sercos for v.16. I also had this problem. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView ME - make application displays non-moveable I want the displays in my HMI application to not be moveable. My project is configured to have a title bar with no control box. Each display is configured to Display Type 'Replace'. The displays can be dragged around the PanelView screen using the title bar, but I don't want them to be moveable since they take up the whole screen anyway. It's pointless to be able to move them. Mike ### Assistant: Remove the title bar. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1494VL3 and 1494VLL3 http://www.ap.home.ra-int.com/jpn/Company/NetIT/gms/Asset Management/1494VL3LL3 Customer found the differrent gap of the spring part between L3:27mm and LL3:18mm. Are they correct product? Or,which one is correct? ### Assistant: The link in your post is not finding a valid server. Are you sure that link is visible to the outside world? JHutch Same here. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Switching Activation Stye I just finished downloading the newest release of Rslogix 5000 and I was asked to Move my product over to the new FactoryTalk Activation. How can I move my all the software I have to FactoryTalk Activation? ### Assistant: Call into support and make the request. If you are the librarian for a large site it might be a good time to make a consolidation request. What department should I be trying to get ahold of my site isn't the largest but we are paying for support and want to keep upto date..My issue is having all these serial numbers to deal with. Any ideas what I can do for future use of my products? Call the activation's group. They should look up what serial numbers are registered to you. Also anything that directly transfers over they can processes the request for most things. A few they can direct you accordingly. For quick direct dial access to the various groups, see here: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/directdial/ Specifically for Activations, direct dial is 010 JHutch So I called in to the Tech support number and got into the activations to migrate my site location of approximately 50 different serial numbers of 10 different packages. I was told that I needed to get in touch with Contract Services as the Activations department handles a smaller amount of license limitated to 10 or less. At that point I was transferred to the Contract services department and was provided a site listing and consolidation suggestion. The correct Way would be to contact your local distributor to discuss possible Changes. IE moving to Concurrent Activations so the licenses can be distributed across the network. Breaking down the multiple serial numbers to a single serial number for each package. which was a great way for our site to manage our licenses. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can you tell me why Rockwell moved those Master Disks activations to Factory Talk Activation? I would like to know why they have moved those floppy disk activations to Factory Talk Activation. I ask becouse it is not clear for me why they have did this. In my humble opinion Master Disk activation works very good and it's very easy to use. ### Assistant: Mark ,Rockwell moved activation from Master disk to Factory Talk because it easier to use.You can activate software on 5 different way's, you can rehost it (move) by your self 3 times per year with online connetion.If you dont have internet access you can activate it on different computer or you can call tech support for activation. If you have master disk and you lost your activation , you need to call tech support, but when your master disk doesnt work you need to request new one and wait for delivery. With Factory Talk activation Type, when you lost your activation and you call to tech support you dont have to wait few days for master disk , they can release your activation in few minutes and you can use it right away :smileyhappy: that's big PLUS. AB Techsupport will only help you with Factory Talk Activation trobles if you've already purchased a TechConnect or other support contract from AB.Just so you're forewarned. Here are a few of the things driving the decision: 1. Floppy drives are getting very hard to find. Very few laptops currently include them. This technology will no longer be supported at some point in the near future. 2. We will be offering new software purchases available for web download (no media) in the near future. I can't send the floppy via email :smileyvery-happy: 3. People can't always find there master disk in an emergency recovery situation. Today, we need to FedEx a floppy and the plant is down for 2 days. With FTA, we can email a replacement activation to get you back on-line immediately. Not true. Tech Support will help with any Activation related issue during normal business hours with no contract required. This is true for both Master Disk and Factory Talk Activation issues. Just confirming what Mike said. Tech Support will support any Activation issue (master disk or FTA) during normal business hours without a contract. After hours support DOES require an after hours support contract. JHutch So if I bought RSLogix500 version 5 in 2001 and have the install media, serial number and master disk floppy but the floppy is damaged due to age, you'll send me a new one - no contract required? Please confirm? Correct. No contract required for activations. (Provided you call 8-5 your local time.) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Breaking Redundancy on Distributed RSViewSE 4.0 & effect on system behavior I am in the process of upgrading a distributed RSViewSE 4.0 system to FTView5.0. I would like to be able to break the redundancy for the pairs of primary and secondary HMI Servers. I can then upgrade one, then the other, then re-enable redundancy in 5.0. There are several pairs. Some of the redundarnt pairs already have the primary off the network, another has the secondary off the network. I understand that if I have the secondary active and then disable redundancy, I need to define the secondary as the primary at the same time so that the clients know where to look.The question is, will I have to reboot the clients and what effect will this have on system stability? I'd prefer not to have to interrupt production while I am making these changes. ### Assistant: The first thing I would do is install the v5 client on all machines as it can run both v4 and v5 applications. I then created a second FT applicationin v5 and then turned my secondaries into primaries on my v5 ft application. All I had to do was change the FTD location on my client, reboot and then run a new client file and then switch my v4 primaries over to v5 secondaries. Fail back is a simple as changing the FTD to the v4 application and rebooting. Sounds good except for the part about v5 client with v4 server. Just to be clear did you go through this yourself? TN #46639 (Connecting to RSView SE Server 4.00 with a FactoryTalk View 5.00 Client) says that this functionality did not make it into v5 (CPR9). I just did a test on my machine and I was able to run a V4 application using a V5 client. I looked at the article and think that it is not correct. I would test your application to ensure that it does work. But I also remember another article that said you could do it, but I can't find that one. This solution does add some complexities with alarming (2 separate alarm systems) and you double the loading on the PLC's, however it did work really well for me (but I had a shutdown to work with as well), but I did run in parallel for 2 weeks to ensure that the v5 system worked correctly. I just talked with RSView SE techsupport and here is what they told me: 1 - The technote is correct. Connecting from a v5.0 client to a v4.0 server is not supported. Furthermore, it almost never works. 2 - The reason it probably worked for rfridulin is that his v4.0 server was most likely upgraded to a v5.0 (CPR9) FactoryTalk layer. In those instances, it will work sometimes but it is still not supported. They very STRONGLY urged that CPR versions match throughout any SE system. Lastly, I strongly suggest anyone dealing with this issue to submit a case through the Ask a Question link in the Knowledge Base and let the experts on FactoryTalk View SE answer your specific scenario questions. Ask a Question JHutch I found out for myself the effect on system stability for this kind of change: I did not try to use a 5.0 client with a 4.0 server. I did have to break the redundancy to move forward on the migration from 4.0 to 5.0. Removing the secondary from the redundant configuration for the HMI Servers and RSLinx Enterprise Dataservers was not a problem at all, no effect at all on the running system.I used technote 38212 Upgrading a Redundant RSViewSE v3.2 system to v4.0 as a guide, did not follow everything due to this particular situation. Would be nice to have another technote with the same procedure for 4.0 to 5.0 upgrades, but there may not be any real differences. For two of the redundant pairs, I did have to remove the primary from the redundant configuration. The secondary was already active, the primary was non-functional (long story) and shut down. I removed the redundancy and redefined the primary as the secondary machine name on the HMI Servers and Data servers. I then had to reboot the FT directory pc, the HMI server, and later some of the clients to get everything working again. Right now in the middle of bringing up the 5.0 system in parallel. Looks like it will work fine. All the 4.0 to 5.0 upgrades Ive done went very smooth and didn't cause so much confusion. For people who read this and have redundant pairs that will need to be running during the upgrade, do this: Break the pair and create a standalone from one server. Then upgrade all clients, shut them down. Upgrade the each server and shut them down. Upgrade the Factory talk server and reboot. Bring up the servers. Open studio and verify project conversion to 5.0. Run test client. Open all clients. upgrade the stand alone and didn't add back into the redundant pair. Very smooth and effective with non stop monitoring. If you break the pair, let clients pull from the 4.0 server while upgrading to 5.0 on the other server, you will be ok until you upgrade the FT directory, then your 4.0 clients loose there connection to the distributed app. Best bet when upgrading and redundant pair, is plan for downtime, or create a standalone. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView ME V4 connection via RSLinx Gateway? I have some Logix processors and PanelView-Plus units sitting out on a seperate Ethernet sub net with a PC running RSLinx Gateway in between the two ethernet networks.I have no problem accessing the units on the sub net via RSLinx but what I need to know is can I get RSLinx Enterprise to also use the remote RSLinx Gateway server?If not is there another method? Thanks. ### Assistant: Sorry to say RSLinx Enterprise cannot use RSLinx Gateway. If you are just trying to bridge to a different subnet, how about using a managed Ethernet switch? If you are trying to consolidate your connections to your controllers, only thing I can think of off the top of my head would be to use a dedicated controller as a data concentrator. With ME and panelviews, your best bet is to have a third party device seamlessly make the subnets look as one, as jonathanKent advised, but that might not be possible in your situation. I know that linx enterprise is limited to the number of complex hops you can make through KE cards or bridges, but with Ethernet, you can map pretty far. Have you considered a contrologix rack with 2 enbt/a cards to combine the two networks. You basically create a CIP firewall and enterprise should map right through it to the Ethernet devices on the other side. The only issue I have seen with enterprise, (in an SE environment) is that when the device on the remote subnet looses comms, you might loose your shortcut. Good Luck. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Get alarms sent to a remote location??? does anyone know how to get alarms from a RSView ME app or a contrologix PLC to display in a remote location? ie tghe other side of the world? or can we extract the RSView alarm history somehow? ### Assistant: Are you talking about software alarms i.e. the application failed to load/crashed etc. or user programmed information i.e. Machine faults etc? For the latter, you can use the 1756-EWEB to set up a web server and access it from any location in the world yes, i was talking about user generated alarms.i want to monitor my machines from wherever i may be in the world at the time.many thanks You could set up another ME app (perhaps running on a PC in Machine Edition Station Runtime) at any location, provided it can get comms back to the processor that triggers the alarms. So, if you have ethernet connection from the remote location back to the processor at the original location, you're good to go. JHutch thanks for that suggestion- it is definately an option for monitoring from the office, but i travel a lot and need to be able to access alarm history from multiple locations.i have had a suggestion to upgrade to RSView 32... still researching that You could run ME station on your laptop. So if you have access to the processor, ME station would still work no matter where you are. JHutch If you want to see alarm history you will need to be able to connect to a machine that is constantly connected to the controlller. Running RSView ME or 32 remotely on your machine will only give you the current alarms - not any ones that have been reset before you connect. You might need to VPN in and use PCAnywhere, Remote Desktop or something similar to view the alarm history on the machine that is constantly connected. Hi, i think the best way will be having a ethernet network and set up access using VPN is simple and really good. That way you can monitor everything or access anything. I'm already set up like this and never got a problem for connect as long you can have a internet connection, that's it. :smileywink: If you are just wanting notification of alarms, you might be able to use Win911 software from specter instruments - www.specterinstruments.com A 3rd way of doing it would be using a Panelview Plus CE and the VNC server that is on the extention CD to follow the Alarms. Also I would not go for ME to RSView32 but to SE, as that would give less development time Cheers n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView I'm new to the RSView software. I have a question about licenses. I was assigned to upgrade some RSView software. I am wondering if I need to purchase any additional licenses. Currently RSView SE Server is running on a SCADA/HMI system. There is one (possibly two) overhead plasma tv displays that run off of a video signal from the PC. They have a static display in the sense the form is the same, but product data changes during the process. Would those screens need a RSView SE View Only Clinet license or would the RSView SE Server's client handle it? If you need any more info, I'll try and supply it to the best of my ability. ### Assistant: Hi No, if you do not add any new PC you should not need any extra licenses. You might find this helpful by the wayhttp://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=34321 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Control Logix File Comparison I am trying to compare two control logix files to see what changes have been made. PLC5 has the compare feature, and I was wondering if anyone knew anything available to do the same thing in control logix. ### Assistant: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/rockwellsoftware/downloads/ Leave all search criteria default and hit searchthen on the results page search compare RSlogix 5000 has come with a Compare Tool since about version 11 if memory serves. If for some reason you don't like Rockwell's built in compare there is also the option to convert both programs to plain text {L5K} format and use a text compare program like Scooter Software's Beyond Compare for example. I've done RSLgx5K compares both ways and each has it's pros and cons. The compare utility works very well. It first shows the summary of what's different and when you expand the different areas (task, tags, routines, etc) it will tell you how many differences exist. Double-clicking on a routine will bring up a two-paned window showing the two files. If the routine is a ladder routine, then scrolling down the rungs a gray block will show the rungs with the differences. If it's a function block routine, then a spreadsheet type window will pop up with the tags/connector differences in red. I usually open two instances of RSLOGIX5000 with both plc programs so I can see the differences highlighted in the compare utility. It will show tag differences and can also be configured when you start a compare, to analyze comments and data values. Aside from the download mentioned above you should also be able to find it on the companion CD see http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46140 n"}
{"text": "### Human: issues with importing database When I import the ASCII text file to a program, to get the documentation, the file size is smaller (in KB). I am us ing RSL500 ver. 7.30.10 CPR9. The original programs were made with ver. 6.00. I have followed the instruction from the site, and don't run into any problems with the import process. Thanks ### Assistant: I'm not sure I understand the problem. It is importing ok (no errors, everything looks to be there) ... but you're concerned that the file size is smaller? Or is there an error and I'm just not reading the question correctly? (Just trying to understand the problem fully before going any further) JHutch I would suggest exporting the 6.0 tags to a different format. good luck. No problems or errors with the import. I just noticed the file size after the import and realized that instead of being 164KB it was 83KB. Makes me a little nervous. Thanks I will try another format Monday. thanks Well, part of it, too, is that the ASCII format is not efficiently using space. It makes it easier for us humans to look at the file and make sense of it, but the computer could use space much efficiently (and does for the Logix file itself). Chances are, since there was no error, everything came in okay. If you're still nervous, you might try spot checking here and there to make sure everything you expect see is showing up. JHutch I see the same anomaly with the logix 5000 software. To date I have never seen any loss of data, just my confusion on how the file size gets smaller when you add something to it. For example......I open filesize.acd, currently 156kb. I add 2 or 3 rungs, a couple controller tags and some program tags. I then save filesize.acd and it is now 137kb in size. Makes no sense, but everything still works. A compare of the project shows no loss of data. If I recall - the files are compressed (hence why Zipping them rarely helps)Likely, the added data helped it get a better 'fit' in the compression. Or something triggered the file to compact (not sure if there is something to trigger this automatically or not) Refer to the file menu - Compact - I found when doing a lot of indirect address references - the file stays small, but if you touch stuff, it acts like you added the global description to everything under it - and the file size explodes - running Compact usually tightens it up again. If your concerned about loss of data just use the compare utility with the old and new files and see if there is any difference. The smaller file size is normal and natural, and based on a very little-known factoid. The RSS file actually contains two copies of the program, an online image and an offline image. I'm not sure exactly how you went about doing the ASCII import, if that included going to a .SLC file, or if you merely imported the EAS file. But with all that work offline, especially if you did a SaveAs, RSLogix wiped the online image, producing a smaller file size, which was not quite half the original size. Happens with 5, 500, and 5000 all the time. When you go online with the program, and save, the file will bloat back up. Nothing to worry about, but kudos on good observational skills. n"}
{"text": "### Human: why FT Data client could not browse data from OPC server I add a new OPC server(Kepserver or Arena) in FatoryTalk Administration Console, sometimes OPC server could not return data to FT Data client. This issue could not reproduced 100%, is there some special configuration or requirement for the OS? How to troubleshoot this issue when encountered? Thanks for your attention ### Assistant: Check your Application, System, and FactoryTalk Diagnostics event logs for errors. Also, if you haven't already, you may want to take a look at the following PSA: Technote 37039: Service Advisory - Rockwell Software OPC-Based Products - Disconnection issues (RPC_E_DISCONNECTED errors) (Microsoft DCOM 108 Update for Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003) -Marty... thanks for your response.I have tried to change the default settings of DCOM, but still failed to browse tags of Arena opc server.On Windows XP2 OS, arena crashed when browse tags on FT data client; on Windows 03 R2 SP2, when browse tag in FatoyTalk Data client, Arena keep on opening, after close it, arena reopen again. What can I do?:( Those intermittent problems are a killer to fix. When the problem happens, can you try connecting directly to the Kepserver using the Kepware QuickClient? That way, at least you can tell if the problem is in FactoryTalk or not. Anything logged in the Kepware event log? kepware QuickClient can always directly connects to kepserver.Is there somthing wrong with my Arena OPC? or FatoryTalk? n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC500 L551 Ethernet --> PanelView Plus Communication Issues Hello fellow techies, I am using a BSN modules to switch RIO on a redundant SLC500 project (I didn't spec the hardware). The design has one pair of the Ethernet wires going through the 232/485 A and B terminals on the BSN so that the primary PLC would have connectivity to the Ethernet HMIs. For the most part, this works. However, during a failover, I am experiencing communication loss for approximately 7 minutes and 30 seconds. I started to isolate the network, and I am down to the switch, one PLC and the PV Plus. I have disconnected the ME Station, the Secondary PLC and my laptopNetwork ConfigurationLinksys Switch SRW2008 (10.12.1.1).PanelView Plus 1000 (10.12.1.13).Two SLC 500’s 1747-L551 Ethernet. They both have the same IP address, only one is connected to the network at any given time (10.12.1.10).Dell workstation running RSView ME Station (10.12.1.2).Programming Laptop is configured as 10.12.1.250 PanelView, Station and PLCs have 10.12.1.1 configured as gateway, and 255.255.255.0 for mask. Testing With the PanelView Plus communicating to PLC ### Assistant: My *guess* is that since the MAC id is changing, something in the PV+ has to timeout before it is able to resolve the IP address to its new MAC id. This just a guess, though, based on what I know of TCP/IP. You'll probably need to create a case with tech support (who will probably have to pass it by the product group) to get a definitive answer. JHutch Alot more then just the IP address can go into the communications.The Mac Address is also part of the packets. If you took a packet sniffer on that network, you will see the mac address in the packets, So, atleast this change is causing a problem. Any existing communications (attempts or current communications) will be retried automatically by windows. I would need to get the specs IP specs and the Windows specs to be 100% sure, however I believe for the standards it's upwards of 1 minute to consider a connection dead and 3 retries, for atleast a minimum of 4 minutes dead time. Before windows is even aware of a dead connection. Then it needs to reset everything and start communications again, causing a renigotiation of the handshaking. This is the nature of IP based networks and not much you can do about it, it is one of the major reasons why Ethernet/IP is not used is Safety, but instead devicenet and sometimes controlnet;because atleast you can be certain when comms are down, Ethernet, you can't be certain for several minutes at best. There are some specialized conditions and protocals that can reduce these problems. I know some proticals are are used in Windows Clustering, but that won't help us here. However, something like a managed switch that simply switches the communications over if one PLC to the other if fail over happens, that will be transparent to Windows and the PV+ so Windows doesn't need to be aware of the change over and significantly reduce your communications failover time. I had occaision to look at Stratus 8000 specs today...Distributor Extranet... Evidently it redirects new external devices attached to a configured ip addressed port to the same address as what was originally chosen... maybe a way around the long deadtimes... but just speculation. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTView ME tag syntax I am working on converting a PV1200 application to a PVPlus. I am using FTView ME 5.0 and am trying to figure out the syntax I need to use for referencing multiple tags in a PLC5. I want to look at two or three consecutive bits and have a multi-state indicator trigger off of them. Example: N11:5 is the data register in the PLC5.I want to look at bits 2, 3, and 4.I am using a shortcut in FTView ME called PLC5.I have a 4 state indicator with values, 0,1,2,3,4, and 5. Can I use the following syntax in the connection tab to reference the tag.{::[PLC5] N11:5/2-4} I'd test it myself, but I don't have the equipment in front of me to try it. Thanks. ### Assistant: Unfortunately, that very powerful tool that you are trying to duplicate, the bit array type tag, does not exist in ME. I cannot tell from your post which of the two methods you plan to use for animation - referencing tags in the PV+ tag data base (where a bit array type worked under PB32), or direct linking to the PLC/LinxE. To do what you are tryiing to do, you will need address the individual bits in the Connections, and build a unique number based on the bits. Sample 1: (probably best for you)[::[PLC5]N11:5/2] + (2*[::[PLC5]N11:5/3]) + (4*[::[PLC5]N11:5/4]) Sample 2: (Take the analog word, shift the 0 & 1 bits off the edge of the earth, and mask out the ones above the former /5 bit)  ( [::[PLC5]N11:5] >> 2 ) & 7 (I may have the expression wrong here - unable to test at this time). The consecutive bit array option sound like a nice feature to have. But to my knowledge to fire state changes from multiple PLC bits for a multistate indicator, will require the use of an expression(located beside the tag ellipses on the connections tab. Basically: If bit1 = 0 then 1 else if bit2 = 0 then 2 else if bit2 and bit3 = 1 then 3 else 4 That would cover states 1-4 using 2 bits. It gets easier if each bit has a state, but over all that is the solution and the syntax that you will need to use to accomplish your goal in ME for multistate indicators. Once in the expression editor, you can check the syntax and use help options to create some fairly impressive expressions. I would set up test bits and verify state changes if your expressions become complex. I have seen the need to write some expressions in reverse so certain states are evaluated before others. Good Luck You didn't identify the communications type (ethernet, RIO ...). If it's RIO, there is a better solution. You can create an alias tag in RSLinx Enterprise as BitArray. This is a new data type released in 5.0 and was created for this purpose. The above suggestions only solve reading bits from a tag but doesn't solve writing. The BitArray works with both. ID 49541 explains what Alex_B is talking about. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarms don't trigger Greetings, i have a small problem: when i use the expression Month==13, this is evaluated and alarm is triggered. But when i use a compound expression, i.e. (Month<1)&&(Month>12), the alarm is not triggered. What's the problem? Thank You for help ### Assistant: I believe you want the OR operator, not AND. If it was truely month, the value for month is 1 to 12. oh man, of course:( thx n"}
{"text": "### Human: can I use 1784PCD to communication with 1769L32E via 1769SDN? my pc connects to the devicenet by using 1784PCD, but in rslinx i couldnt see the 1796 CPU,is it true? tks. ### Assistant: Hello, If you are connected on the CPU ( ethernet, controlnet, serial ), you can browse to the Devicenet network with RsLinx.But with CompactLogix L3x, you can't browse from Devicenet to the CPU. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Move alarms between 2 FT View 5.0 SE distributed projects I have 2 distributed projects, each on there own server. Each sever is connected to a ControlLogix PLC. I just connected my industrial network and I would like to share alarms and other information between the two. What is the best was to do this? Do I need to move tags between the PLC's? ### Assistant: What type of alarms - are these the old style HMI alarms or the new FactoryTalk Alarms & Events? If the latter, you don't need to do anything other than configure RSLinx Enterprise and your shortcut to subscribe to the alarms. If the former, you can export your tags and alarms from the old project and import them into the new ons using the Tag Import and Export wizard. What do you mean by share alarms and other information? Assuming your controllers and 2 View applications are now all on the same industrial network (that's what you said, right?), probably the easiest way to share info is to configure tags/alarms in View App A to talk to Controller B and vice versa. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Commands that not run on HMI Server Hi! ther are some commands that not run on HMI Server, but in standalone app this is a problem. Example: I need a PopUp display to appear when tag value is equal to 123 configuring an event can't do it because display command does not run on HMI Server, so I need deal whit VB code and a numeric display which visible properties are set to false. This is a little problem if you need this on 1 display, but what happen if need it on 20 displays? we need put this numeric display on 20 Displays!! This is a solution for this case Now I need execute the command SupressOff SomeTagName when tag value's is equal to 12, I have 23 Tags that need execute this command on 20 displays... this is hard to maintenance Some one known who to launch events in some way that run like in command line?? ### Assistant: Hi Psycrow, The events in SE run at the server, not at the client. So if all you do is execute a Display command, there is no way to tell it to run on a specific client computer. So what you need is a way to get the client to issue the Display command. Tech note 22007 talks about a way to do this using VBA. In your case, you want to add a numeric display on a graphic that is always running, perhaps not visible. The object looks at your tag and when the value changes, you test to see if it is equal to 123. If so, you execute the command Display SomeScreen. Same principle for your SupressOff command. In addition, remember that the client MUST be a Read/Write client to execute any commands. Actually, it depends on what the command does. For example, a Display command can be issued by a Read-Only client. An Set command, = command or Acknowledge command cannot. I think the Acknowledge does not work because an alam acknowledge writes to the alarm ack tag, alarm handshake tag, etc. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Importing graphics from Telnet Oasis software Has anyone had any luck importing graphics from Telnet's Oasis software into FactoryTalk? ### Assistant: There's no conversion wizard, so these would be a complete re-engineer effort in FTView SE. Se does allow you to import XML, but the effort to convert one format to the other might be more than it is worth. :smileysad: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Importing multiple parameter files? I'm working with RSView SE 4.0 (CPR7) I'm trying to migrate a number of parameter files (approx. 80-100) from one HMI project to another. I've copied the files to the new project using Windows Explorer, but I know that to be able to see the files in RSView Studio, you need to add the components into the application. The version I'm using supports importing parameter files one at a time, which would make this a tedious process. Does anyone know any shortcuts to make multiple files visible in Studio at once? I've scanned the KnowledgeBase, but couldn't find anything that seemed to help. Rick ### Assistant: Hi Rick, Right-click on Parameters, select Add Component Into Application. From here, click on the first parameter file you want to import. Hold down the Shift key, scroll over a couple of columns and click on the last file at the bottom of the column. When you click the Open button, all those selected files will be imported. This is true for all project components that allow importing (graphics, macros, derived tags, events, key files, recipes, etc). I try not to be too greedy - there is a limit to the number of files you can select. Or rather, you can select all of them, but not all of them will be imported. Probably some limit on the number of characters or items that can be selected that is buried in the Microsoft Common Control somewhere. I've never had a problem selecting three columns of files at a time. That's still a lot better than one-at-a-time. Alternately, drag & drop works too. If you select the files in explorer and drag them to the open project tree in Studio, they'll be imported/added to the right place. Johnathan and Sharon: Thank you both for your feedback. Both solutions work, but my preference is the drag and drop, because there does not appear to be the same limitation on the number of files you can import when you drag and drop. Rick n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT ViewStudio 5.00 (CPR9) Tools/Transfer of ME project hangs This problem has appeared in this release, and also was in the last release.It has been observed on two different laptops. When in the Studio environment, and selecting Tools, Transfer, the file does transfer correctly to the PV+, but, *sometimes* (about 1 out of 5 times), after the download, the transfer utility is hung. That is, the EXIT button is greyed out. There is no ill effect on the PV+. The corrective action is to invoke Task Manager, and kill the task. Afterwards, all is well. Since this is clearly a bug, is it on a 'known annomolies' list somewhere? ### Assistant: Yep, it's known and documented: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=49417 JHutch Thanks, this has happened to me quite alot. Nice to know the answer is what I already do now. I thought there would be a valid explanation or fix. I assume AB will fix it eventually. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activex Control Web Browser How do I to use the Activex Control Web Browser in RSView studio for the Panel View Plus 700, I'm using a Camera to generate a Html archive with images to be showed in Panel View. ### Assistant: Are you talking about the WebBrowser control found in technote 31315? Or do you mean the Microsoft Web Browser control? To my knowledge, the Microsoft Web Browser control can only be used in View SE because it requires VBA to set the URL: Private Sub Display_AnimationStart() Me.MicrosoftWebBrowser2.Navigate2 ( http://myfile.htm )End Sub You can't do this in View ME. If you ARE talking about the WebBrowser control found in technote 31315, can you elaborate on your problem a little? There is a sample app as part of the technote too (though I haven't loaded it). The first question I would have is whether you actually have a PVP CE 700 or a regular PVP 700? You must have the CE version. Otherwise it's pretty straightforward to use the ActiveX control. Just point the URL tag to a string tag in your processor and type the URL into string. Check out A112559830 (31315) in the knowledgebase. JHutch - Linkified for convenience. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View SE New Alarms and Events objects I need some clairification on the new Alarms and Events Objects versus the old alarming setup. I have spoke with several Rockwell employee's about how good the idea is and I get mixed answers. I was told that the Alarms and Events type of alarming is better because it moves the alarming away from the HMI and back to the controller, where the alarms are located. I have also been told that it puts a large strain on the controller. I think the alarms should be handled in the conroller, but not at the expense of the performance. I have a large program running on a ControlLogic processor with 3 remote 17 slot racks. The SE Alarming is horrible and I like the option, but how do I know what it will do to my system if I move the alarming over to the Controller? ### Assistant: Down and down the list I go, where I'll stop noboby knows... From what little I've learned about the new alarms and events, under MOST circumstances, overall performance will often be better. But, you *are* moving the bulk of the work from the SE app to the CL processor. If your processor is already working pretty hard, it may be a problem. Unfortunately, I just don't have enough experience with it to make an educated guess as to the impact. If you go to Ask a Question, you'll at least be sure to get it in front of the eyes of the product experts. JHutch The FT Alarms and Events objects in View SE can be used even if you decide not to use the ALMA and ALMD instructions in the controller. Many times the control code is set (or done by somebody else) and you won't be able to get them to go through the code to implement new alarm instructions. However, the banner/summary objects - along with built-in alarm history - make the View objects a huge improvement over the existing HMI Tag Alarm summary object. If you would like to take advantage of the A&E objects in View without moving to ALMA and ALMD instructionsj ust yet, you can add a Tag-Based Alarm and Event Server to your project and configure your digital and analog polled alarms there. Technote 45583 in the Knowledgebase contains a tool that will convert existing traditional HMI Alarms to Tag-Based A&E alarms. This doesn't really answer your question about performance, but you can start working with the new alarm object in View before making the commitment to ALMA and ALMD. Hope this helps! If I go and convert with the conversion tool to the A&E Events banner type of alarming, am I committed to using it or will the old alarm summary work as well as the A&E banner. The old alarm summary knows nothing of the new Alarms and Events. You would have to use the new summary. True, they know nothing of each other. But converting doesn't delete the existing HMI alarms. They are never deleted unless you delete them. So if you convert using the conversion tool and import the resulting files to your application, you will essentially have 2 copies of your alarms. 1 copy is the traditional HMI alarming with the traditional alarm summary. The 2nd copy are the Tag-Based A&E alarms using the new alarm summary. They can work together in the same application as long as you use both summary objects. To disable traditional HMI alarming, use the AlarmOff command or just don't start it when the app starts. Thanks for the pointer!:smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: HMI has been split into two boards! We've split the HMI board in FactoryTalk View SE/ME and everything else. This should help keep traffic a little more manageable and searchable for folks. (NOTE: No messages were lost in this split) JHutch ### Assistant: nan nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra5000 firmware upgrade and Logix 5000 Hi, I've been asked to upgrade / reinstall the firmware and then possibly the application on an Ultra 5000 motion controller after what looks to be corrupt firmware. I haven’t had anything to do with these motion controllers before I'm lead to bereave that I can use Logix 5000 to reinstall the firmware and then reload the application. Can anyone confirm the basic procedure / steps that I can expect? What version of Logix 5000 do I need to be running? (I have version 10, 11, & 13 loaded at present). Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: You cannot use RSLogix 5000 to upgrade the firmware. The Ultra5000 is a stand alone servo drive/controller and you will need to use Ultraware software. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ALMD (Alarm) in a ADD-ON Instruction? Señores,Quisiera saber si hay alguna complicacion en colocar una instruccion ALMD dentro de un Add-On instruction. Segun una ultima charla con personal de Rockwell nos indicaron que esta version (16) no estaba preparada para eso. Sin embargo las Alarmas funcionan. Can I place an ALMD Instruction inside a Add-On Instruction? ### Assistant: Yes, you are now supposed to be able to put any reasonable (non controller type) function blocks in the add on instructions. You will need to create the appropriate local parameter to support the ALMD (just like if you put it in a standard routine). vlk Per the AOI user manual (1756-PM010A-EN-P), the ALMA and ALMD instructions CAN be used in an AOI, but the backing tag for the instruction must be passed as an In/Out Parameter. Same for MSG and Motion instructions. This is because the MSG, ALMA, ALMD instructions require BASE tags (root controller tag or program tag) and have an associated buffer space in memory. Can't put them in Arrays or as parts of UDTs. Dale BTW, the manual above is installed with the online manuals, but it's not easy to find. Select the Common Procedures Programming Manual and you'll get what looks like a manual Cover Page, but it's really links to several other manuals (AOIs, Strings, P/C Tags, Messages, etc., etc.) Thanks W8ABZ... people from rockwell told me that this last version (16) was no released or prepared to support this, and i thinked: that information is wrong.My mistake... i didn't see that manual n"}
{"text": "### Human: Writing PLC Tags in VBA I have an application where we scan a barcode into a StringIinput. In the StringInput_Change VBA code I validate and log the barcode data. Now I need to automatically raise a bit in the PLC to indicate that a valid barcode was scanned. I have created a mometary pushbutton which works when I click it, but I can not automate this in VBA. MomentaryPushbutton1.Click would be nice but it will not work, the button can not be fully exposed to VBA. Can I write directly to the Tag in VBA? How? Is there another workaround with a screen object that is more exposed to VBA than the momentary pushbutton? Any help would be highly appreciated. Ken ### Assistant: The most straightforward way is to have a numeric input field (it can even be hidden somewhere on the screen) exposed to VBA and linked to a controller tag. When the barcode is scanned, you add these lines of code in StringInput_Change: NumericInput1.Value = 1NumbericInput1.Download And you should be good to go.Do the same to reset back to zero (or let the controller reset it back to zero.) Alternately, you can create a tag group and set the tag that way, but for a single bit, the NumericInput should be fine. Thanks SharonB. No way to do that with a Bit adress? Ken Hmm, a bit address is like any other. You can link your numberic input to [CLX_SHORTCUT]MyTag.0 or something like that and set it to 0 or 1 as necessary. or am I missing what you mean? I will use the numeric input route I guess. I still would like to know how to use a Tag object or tag group to manipulate tag data directly. I see articles in the KB that allude to it, but never anything like a how-to at my level. If anyone knows of a text like that please let me know. Ken You can do something like this:Dim oTagGroup As TagGroup Private Sub Display_AnimationStart() Set oTagGroup = Application.CreateTagGroup(Me.AreaName) oTagGroup.Add Your_tag_name_hereEnd Sub Private Sub StringDisplay_Changed() oTagGroup( Your_tag_name_here ).Value = 1End Sub Private Sub Display_Unload() Set oTagGroup = NothingEnd Sub And don't forget error checking! There are some technotes from TechEd08 with this type of example, but they haven't been released yet. JHutch - set off the VBA code to make it a little easier to read. Ken, There's a short help file for the SE object model , C:Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellHelpDisplayClientOM.chm. The examples there might be what you're looking for. Alternately, from VBA : Application.ExecuteCommand Set [Myclx]NewBarcodeData 1 Dan n"}
{"text": "### Human: MS SQL ODBC original 3.2 version of distributed SE project worked with string field for tag name in the floating point data table. After switching to 4.0 CPR 7, ODBC logger is looking for a numeric field (FieldIndex) and won't log data using the string tag name anymore? Why? How do I fix it? Other appliations written for this project use the tag names in the the floating point data table (MS SQL) to create reports, etc. and now they don't work because the tag names are not there. ### Assistant: I ran into this problem in v4.0 some years ago. See tech note 37386. Basically purge the database, remove the string tags from the model and add them back in and resave the model. This should do the trick. FYI, I haven't seen this in v5.0 yet. Linkified the technote number - JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Export ControlLogix Tags and values to CSV or other Formats I have a large list of tags I would like to have a have copy and a Copy I could manipulate In a spread Sheet as well. The biggest thing I would like to do is compare values from one multi layered UDT to a similar UDT. I have a large recipe file and would like to compare part of on to similar recipes. All my values are 3,4,5 or more layer into the tag Tree. ### Assistant: Look at TechID 37852 and see if that answers your question. link This solution would be it although I am getting an error Error -1073479668 Method '~' of object '~' Failed PCWindows XP Pro SP32.2Ghz1G Ram SoftwareTag uploaddownload 2.6.1Linxs 2.52 TagsIn Browser 1900117Structure in Browser 1166278Tags Checked 5156 (1 Model)Tags to Read/Wright 240 I did try just selecting 1 tag and that did work. Also when reading in a String I only get the LEN and Data. But the Data is a Two didget representation of the real Carter. IE a 2 read in as 50 I lowered the Tags to Read/Wright from 240 (Default) to 50 (lowest setting) then it all work fine. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Another 5.0 Studio Problem I have a case ### Assistant: I have a windows 2003 server with the following software installed. Installed in this order; 1. MSSQL2. FactoryTalk Transaction manager3. Kepware4. FTView 5.0 (not upgraded from 4.0, project imported after 5.0 install) No issues... DBLD99 wrote: I have a case # on this and the only response by Rockwell tech support is to uninstall every piece of AB software and install FactoryTalk view first. I can not have studio open and any other Rockwell product open or I get a failed to connect to name server then I can't open the tag database or any display screen.Local or Network FactoryTalk?Is your error about the NAME server (FT Directory) or the HMI server? What other Rockwell products do you have? Both Local and Network - I am an Systems Integrator - I have almost every piece of software on my laptop- 5,500,5000 - FactoryTalk ME/SE, Rsview32 - RSTune, Drivetools, all RSNetworx,Panelbuilder, pretty much almost everything - the also - Wonderware -Inductive Automations, Directsoft. It really happens alot when I have Studio open and open up 5000 - then I cant open any Display it will give me that failed to connect to name server - or if I have 5000 open first then open studio - studio wont even connect and open any project - whether it is ME or SE. The only fix is to reboot the computer and not have more then one Rockwell product open - which you could see it is a pain to program with only one application opened at a time. Like I said the Tech Support told me to unistall everything and make sure I install FactoryTalk products first then go with RSview32 then 500,5000 etc... I was just bringing this up to see if that guy was right - because I hate to waste 2 days unistalling all my software and not fix the problem. The only issues *I* personally know about are making sure the CPR levels match AND that when trying to do a full uninstall of some of the packages, you'll have to uninstall others things at the same time since they share some files and registry entries. But then again, I'll quickly admit I'm not an expert on FactoryTalk View SE. If techsupport said to do that, I'd be inclined to say they know better than I do. That said, if you want to send me the case number via PM, I'll ask my local SE expert's opinion. Just like a doctor's visit, a second opinion never hurts. JHutch Is the problem only with Studio and Logix? Like, if you have Studio open and then open, say RSNetworx, do you still get the problem? it sounds like something in FactoryTalk is not happy - is it possible you have some version mismatching like JHutch mentioned? If it were me, I might mess around with uninstalling Logix, Linx Ent, Studio, and FactoryTalk only. Those are core FactoryTalk apps and reinstall over View32, etc. (note that your View32 install also has to be the same CPR as your FactoryTalk products) As BC once said, I feel your pain.As an SI myself, I too have a multitude of vendors software products installed, Siemens, Omron, Mitsubishi, AutomationDirect, (stuff you probably never heard of) and - Rockwell. I'm often amazed, but never suprised, at the utter lack of inter-product compatability of Rockwell Software. I'ts getting to the point that you have to have three computers, one for AB's Factory Talk products, one for AB's pre-Factory Talk products and another one for everthing else that works.I suggest a completely seperate hard drive or a seperate bootable partition. (I'm not commenting on the ability or inability of software to play nice with others!) You might want to look into VMWare's products (or similar virtualization software). I know tech support likes to use it when they need to test a specific scenario and need a machine built with a specific set of products. Let's you run virtual computers within your normal Windows desktop. So, you could have a VM for Rockwell, one for Wonderware, etc ... and they can even all be running at the same time and there would be no chance of conflict. The only warning I've noticed is that the more VMs you have running at once, the more of a memory hog the entire system becomes. But with memory getting as cheap as I've noticed lately, it usually isn't TOO hard to convince a supervisor to approve a purchase ... ;) I know, famous last words! JHutch If your getting a failed to connect to name server then the issue is communications related and these products will lag and fail to open and all sorts of crazy stuff. If you only upgraded Studio to 5.0, then just rerun the factory talk configuration wizard for the local and the network directorys. It has been posted that the upgrade can cause some confusion with the directories and some info can get dropped. Don't worry about the 2 day reinstall, that shouldn't be necessary and it wont fix your issue. Your FT configs are not reloaded with a normal unistall and reinstall. Try that and let us know if it helps. In my experience, the big compatibility issue is FactoryTalk. If two or more different Rockwell software packages use the same FT version, then everything is A-OK. It's when you try to mix/match FT versions that major problems occur. For products that don't rely on FT (RSLogix 5/500/500, RSLinx), this is not a big deal, but for products that do use FT (SE, ME, Batch, RS SQL, etc), this is an absolute killer. Speaking personally, I don't know how I would handle this if it were not for VMWare. I've also used Microsoft's Virtual PC, but the snapshot feature in VMWare is worth it's weight in gold. I can't recommend this application strongly enough. I'm about to load v6 so I can begin working with MS Vista & Rockwell products. Crossing my fingers... :smileywink: I think it's a compatibility issue, you should try the Tech ID 37550 if you was update from FactoryTalk Automation platform (FTAP 2.00 CPR7) to FactoryTalk Service Platform (FTSP 2.10 CPR 9)Other wise you need uninstall-intstall all Rockwell products with same CPR version either 7 or 9 don't mix JHutch - Linkified for convenience. I have seen this often when a software version is not up to speed with the releases that came out at the time, with many compatability issues, and not just RSLogix, or FTView, but with older RSNetworx installed, or older RSLinx installed. I maintain RSLogix 5000 version 16.03, FTView 5.00, and RSNetworx 8, and RSLinx 2.52 with no issues... However, I toss something down to a CPR 7 level or older, now I get tag errors in Logix, and this error in FTView. I largely recommend, maintaining compatable levels of everything, doing large sweeping updates. The problem comes in when some clients have version 4.00 for the PV+ but version 16 for CLX, etc. For this I use VMware to maintain version sets to maintain compatability. As for licensing, I just map my EVRSI licensing and use concurrent and reference back to a server running on the host machine. It seems to work well this way. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Process Safety I'm interested in how users are using either CLX or GLX for Process Safety to comply with ANSI/ISA 84.00.01 (2004) - IEC61511 . If you have designed, configured, started up or are the owner/opperator of one of these systems, please reply to this message. ### Assistant: Mike, I have not specifically done IEC61511, however, I am a bit familiar with some of this. First, in general, which you probably already have found here is a nice guidelines link. This was in the petro field, but gives a nice run down. www.itk.ntnu.no/sil/Guideline_IEC.pdf The big thing in terms of controllers is for the ratings: Basically find out what your SIL rating requirements are then you can see what Rockwell's got to fit that. GLX is most likely what you are looking. Design is a bit tougher only because you have less options in general because not everything will be rated for your environment, the big thing is getting the right cables, modules, etc. Configuration, is similiar to anything else Rockwell, same with owner ship etc. It's really a matter of environment. That's the big big question. So I also end with that question, what is the environment. JHutch - Linkified for convenience. If you're looking for process safety to meet ISA or IEC standards, you can go three routes: 1) CLX up to SIL2 with the option of fault tolerant I/O. These are currently in place in multiple Oil & Gas installations all over the world. It is best to follow the CLX Safety Manual. This is most advantagous when CLX already exists and you can add value by reducing spares and training costs. 2) GuardPLC. This is a pretty decent controller that is scalable. It has several I/O options over safety ethernet. 3) ICS Triplex AAdvance system. This is scalable from SIL1 to SIL3 and is built from the ground up around process safety. I have helped design or work on several of these systems and as long as you verify their operation through your SIF calculations you'll be good to go. IMO, I would consider the GLX to be a discrete safety controller versus a process safety controller. Any intresrt in the SmartGuard600 n"}
{"text": "### Human: OPC Tag data arrays in GE Cimplicity PE I'm wondering if it is more efficient to pull in tag data in GE Cimplicity PE as one point for a whole array of 100 or one point for each tag. I noticed in RSLinx Classic Pro's Active DDE/OPC Topic/Item List that there are fewer items, but I don't really know if it is better or more efficient. My 6 Cimplicity projects on one server are currently using around ControlLogix 7000 tags from a total of 5 PLC's, the recommended max from Rockwell, so I am trying to decide if I need to plan to setup another OPC server, move some projects to another server, or if I have found a way to move data more efficiently. Eventually, I'd love to move to the FTView SE and RSLinx Enterprise, but right now I have to use what I've got. Thanks, Jeffrey ### Assistant: If Cimplicity allows you to address tags in blocks (i.e. an array instead of many individual address) and if you plan on using most or all of those addresses, it would be more efficient to use that type of addressing. You might want to check out the ControlLogix Performance White Paper. Most versions of RSLinx install this to C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLINXENU (in HTML format). This is a rarity - a white paper that is easy to read and full of useful information. You should find a lot of helpful optimization tips here. Yes, Cimplicity can read data in arrays or blocks instead of individually. I'll have do some work on the possibility of optimizing the UDT's, but the data arrays should be an easy fix that just takes time and a little development. After reading the the white pages that you suggested, I see room for lots of opportunities of improvement, and this could possibly cut down on some of the OPC-related issues that I've been experiencing between Cimplicity PE and RSLinx Classic Pro and Gateway. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Limiting the ability of the end user to copy and redistribute Logix program Does anybody have any ideas on how to limit the ability of the end user to copy and redistribute the logix program? We were thinking of writing some logic that would interface between a computer and a security dongle. I don't want to prevent complete access to the controller. I just want the end user to come to our company for licensing of each product if they were to decide to copy the program to another piece of equipment. We make some unique equipment and want to make it difficult to reproduce the equipment when we ship to select markets. It would be nice to enable the Source Protection on the Controller Serial number (Under controller properties-> Advanced) so that the program that is given to the customer can only be downloaded to the controller sold. We would protect some key logic routines also. ### Assistant: The serial number of the controller can be retrieved in code (with a GSV I believe), and can be compared with the known serial number of the controller sold. If they don't match, the task can be inhibited with an SSV (or some other action could be taken). Protect the logic that does that comparison with Routine Source Protection, and you should be good to go. Tying the source code to a processor serial number means significant downtime if said processor fails. The end user must come back to you for a new processor with preloaded program. Will your customers tolerate at least 24 hours of down time even if you promise UPS RED delivery, or airline counter-to-counter delivery? Is reverse engineering that much of a problem for you? I thought Rockwell stuff didn't break? :smileywink: I understand the implications that this type of code will have. That is why we were trying to link it to an exterior type of encryption hardware. If they have the latest software and e-mailed to us, we could modify the code and send it back to them. We would not need to ship anything to correct the problem. The reverse engineering could be a problem. We want to start shipping more products to the chinese market. The directors of our company would like to put some software encryption on critical parts of the program to make it difficult at best to replicate. We believe that automation market in china will expand and that it is quite possible for local equipment builders to disassemble and replicate our product. Güdel makes most of the mechanical components that are incorporate into the mechanics so that may require the replicator to purchase our mechanics. The mindset behind the software lock would be if the product was replicated that we somehow could license the software. Paul HuddasControls Engineer To limit the downtime caused by being tied to a particular controller, I believe it would be possible to pull out the serial number of the chassis instead of the controller. That way, if the controller had to be swapped out, the code would continue to run. I found KB 20156 explaining how to read the backplane information and how to cause a major fault if it is different. This is good information to know. Now that I can cause a major fault on the controller is there a way to display a custom message in the controller fault log beside the default? Reading the backplane serial number at first glance seems like a good way to protect your code for licensing distribution, but it doesn't do anything at all to prevent cut and paste copying of your program, sans the protected routine that reads the chassis serial number, to a new project. Accessible code is always copy-able. It seems to me that you are going to have to make some trade-offs here - maybe you can put part of your program in protected tasks and design those tasks so that they provide diagnostic details back in accessible tags. This is really a stab in the dark, but since the CLX can access the CF Card in the slot, you might try encrypting some licensing information there, then comparing in a source protected routine. Of course, most types of encryption cannot be exported outside of the US, so you'll have to do your homework there. This way you could ship a CF card with each new machine. Check TechID 28539 for info on read/write to CF card. But just in my opinion, if the Chinese can crack an iPhone before it even hits the market, most of this might be moot. JHutch - Linkified for convenience. I don't have anything to add technically, but I passed this info on to the product managers. There are a lot of variations on the requests-for-security-enhancements theme that have come in over the years, and no two are alike, so it's really hard to develop the *right* thing. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747-KFC15 Firmware Hi, Where i can find the 4.2 update firmware for the 1747-KFC15 ? Thx. ### Assistant: Gautier: Call in to tech support (+1.440.646.3434 or your local number) and request a firmware kit. It's not available online. KurtH Ok, thank you Kurth. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Safe Off Wiring for PowerFlex 40P I have an MSR138DP and PF40P, with an E-stop. Is there a working electrical drawing that I can have to design a Cat 1 stop? The exisiting drawing on the DriveGuard manual does not explicitly state what the 'Enable' input is located on the PF40P? Please help. ### Assistant: There is actually two steps to installing the Driveguard option. You remove the driveguard plug which just protects the pins that a terminal strip plugs on to and then remove the drive Enable jumper. The driveguard is really just a relay that is energized by a field device (e-stop pull-cord, etc) and the contacts enable the drive to run. You have to remove the front plastic cover on the drive to get to the pins. Page 7-8 show the location on a 40P drive. I/O terminals 1, 2, and 3 are dedicated to Stop. Start, and Reverse operation. The driveguard really takes the place of the enable jumper which, I believe, disconnects gating power to the IGBT's. Find this manual (driveguard safe-off option (series B) for powerflex40p and 70 AC drives) in the literature:pflex-um003_-en-p.pdf On page 14 you have the example you're looking for. success :smileytongue:C Thank you both for your replies. So, just for clarification (sorry if this is a stupid question), if I were to label each input based on page 14 on the DriveGuard booklet, as a terminal input on the PF40P.+24V DC would be Terminal 11.Stop would be Terminal 01.Start would be Terminal 02.Common would be Terminal 04.So, where is the Enable input?In the PF40P User Manual, page 1-14 states in note (4), When the ENBL enable jumper is removed, the I/O Terminal 01 will always act as a hardware enable causing a caost to stop without software intepretation. That means the ENBL jumper cannot be removed if I want a Category 1 Stop. Therefore, where is the Enable input as a Terminal? If you want a controlled stop you need to wire it as shown in example 2 Safe-Off Connection with Controlled Stop Action, Dual Channel Regards correct-this should be the right answer. OK thanks. But where is the Enable input? In your old application you used the enable input to stop the drive. That changes for this application. To stop the drive, now use the stop input. As written in the manual:The output circuits (13-14) will issue a Stop command to the drive and cause a controlled deceleration Then after a certain time both safety inputs trip (safe off board + enable input).As written in the manual:After the programmed delay, the timed output circuits (47-48 & 57-58) will cause the Safe-Off option and the drive enable circuit to trip. If the motor is rotating when the trip occurs, it will coast to stop. So it is very important the drive is stopped before the safety kicks in (the programmed delay should be enough). Hopefully this makes it more clear.:smileytongue: successC n"}
{"text": "### Human: What changes with a 1756-EN2T? While I have used the 1756-ENBT module in the past, this is my first opportunity to use an EN2T module. I've done a quick scan of the knowledgebase and discovered that the EN2T requires at least RSLinx v2.51 (ID 37323) and there are some issues with using an ENBT & EN2T in the same rack. What other changes, caveat emptors, etc. do I need to be on the lookout for? Thanks in advance. JHutch - Linkified for convenience. ### Assistant: I'm not sure about any other pitfalls that might be out there. As far as the benefits go, it can handle twice the amount of packets/sec (bandwidth), has a USB port on the front for easy access for programming, and is used in the new enhanced redundancy for V16 of logix. If you use the Ethernet/IP Perfomance Prediction Tool, you will see how many more PanelviewPlus terminals or I/O that you can connect to with an EN2T. Plus it has a fiber equivalent, the EN2F that is either out, or coming out soon. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000 ENET to ENBT Swap Does anyone know if a method exists to change an Ethernet card type in the I/O config without deleting and re-adding all connections? I had a 1756-ENET card fail and only had a 1756-ENBT card available. The card is functioning without issue just by swapping it and configuring the correct addressing (It was set as compatible module). However, it still shows up in the Logix5000 as the old ENET module. I would like to change the project so the new card is reflected properly, but the only way I know (delete and re-add) seems like quite the hassle! ### Assistant: Rockman1_1, Maybe try this: 1. Save your current project as an L5K file.2. Create a new blank project in the same revision (like 16), with the same kind of controller in the same slot.3. Add an ENBT in the same slot and with the same name, IP address, etc. as your ENET in the existing project. Save this new little project as an L5K file.4. Open up both L5K files in Notepad (or other text editor of your choice).5. Find the MODULE entry for the ENBT in the new little project and select it (through the END_MODULE) and Copy.6. Find the MODULE entry for the ENET in the old big project and select it (through END_MODULE), then paste to overwrite this ENET entry with the ENBT setup.7. Save the old/big project L5K from Notepad (maybe with a new name, in case your screwed it up). You may need to convince Notepad to save it as L5K and not TXT (or rename the extension after the fact).8. Open the modified big L5K in RSLogix5000, make sure it imports without errors, verify it, and save it (with a new name so you don't lose your original project). You'll need to download at some point to make everything happy -- because the module change is pretty fundamental, not an online-thing. Hope this works! Regards,Dale, W8ABZ You might have two other options as well. If you have a spare slot in the chassis. Add the new enbt to a spare slot. Then drag all the modules to the new card from the top down. Then once you've moved all the modules, delete the old enet and change the slot number of the enbt to the correct one. If you don't have a spare slot, you could make a copy of your ACD file, then open it in Logix5000 next to the original one. Now line up both windows so that you can see them at the same time on your desktop. Delete the enet and all the modules underneath it in the new file. Then create the enbt in the slot you want it. Now drag the modules over from the old project to the new project with your mouse. This should keep the naming the same and will move everything over. This same procedure is useful for controlnet cards as well. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Drives in contrlollogix I/O configuration Every time I try to add a drive to my controllogix I/O configuration all I get is a small pop up box with what looks like a half circle. I dosent matter which drive I try to install it does the same thing. I have another laptop with the same version of controllogix and it has no problem adding drives to the I/O configuration. I updated the EDS files but it still will not work. Any ideas. ### Assistant: If you had a beta version RSLogix running on your PC, remove everything from RSLogix first and install a released version V16.03. Or download and install the latest version from the add on profile for the drives here. Good luck,C http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=38471 Cause: The new drive Module Profile installation software utilizes some hard coded directory names. Example:C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000C:Program FilesRockwell AutomationCommonThe non-English O/S may use a slightly different spelling:C:ProgrammeRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000C:ProgrammeRockwell AutomationCommon C:ProgrammiRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000C:ProgrammiRockwell AutomationCommon Solutions: Download and install corrected Drive Module Profiles. Version 1.02 is now available for download on the MySupport web site. RSLogix 5000 Add-On Module ProfilesDownload and install RSLogix 5000 v16.03 software from the MySupport web site.Web Updates n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlNet Toolkit parts Does anybody know where to get replacement knife blades for cable strip device in the 1786-CTK/B ControlNet Coax Toolkit? Our local A-B distributor has been unable to help us. Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: Ask your distributor to look at tech id 18930 in the knowledgebase. JHutch - Linkified for convenience. Thanks for the info. FYI: per the technote I went to the www.paladin-tools.com website, but could not find part number 903220 using their search tool. I did however find a CST orange replacement blade p/n 2247. I called and they confirmed that these parts are one & the same. Both part numbers are valid. Ron n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controlling a Powerflex 700VC from ControlLogix I'm looking at a PLC program which controls a motor via a PowerFlex 700VC. I need to get to grips with it and understand how it controls the drive. It does things like:Tell the motor to ramp up/down to a particular RPM at a particular rateIndex to a particular angular positionThere is some interaction with the drive via a tag with the Module-defined data type AB:PowerFlex700VC_D8B11188:I:0 - where can I find documentation on this data type? There are also a bunch of MSG instructions which read and write drive parameters - how do I determine what parameters these instructions are reading/writing? Any help greatfully received. Mike ### Assistant: Is the drive connected over DeviceNet, ControlNet, or EtherNet/IP ? The pre-built tags in the Controller-scope database will differ a little depending on the network method. The MSG instructions are fairly straightforward if they are using the Parameter Object. Post a description of the MSG instruction configuration. The Parameter Object is Class 0x0F, Instance = Parameter #, and Attribute 1. They typically use the Get Attribute Single (reads a parameter) or Set Attribute Single (writes a parameter) services. Ethernet/IP. Example of a message read: Message Type: CIP GenericService Type: Parameter ReadService code: eClass: fInstance: 6Attribute: 1 Example of a message write: Message Type: CIP GenericService Type: Parameter WriteService code: 10Class: fInstance: 41Attribute: 1 So the 'Instance' is the drive parameter (in base 10), in the above cases we're reading 'Output voltage' parameter and writing the 'Motor NP Volts' parameter? Thanks for your help. Mike So... can anyone point me at documentation for module-derived data types, specifically AB: PowerFlex700VC_D8B11188:I:0? Mike http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/20comm-um010_-en-p.pdf page 64 for pre-version 16 logix 5000 page 54 for 16 or higher. and review appendix D That's a useful document, thanks. But... I can't find any definition of the module-defined types that appear in my Logix5000 project. As an aside, or maybe even relevantly, the revision number of the Ethernet Powerflex 700 Vector-400V-E module shown in the project is 4.10 (the project was created by someone else on a different PC) but my Logix5000 installation only supports revisions up to 4.6. Do I need a new EDS file to get support for 4.10? I'm not able to physically connect to the drive, I don't know whether that's going to be a problem at this stage. Mike Hmmm, I tried downloading the DriveTools SP Database Files from for v4.010 from http://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/webupdate/powerflex700.html#, but I still only get up to revision 4.006 in Logix5000. ... Edit - Whoa! I take it all back, I can now see 4.010. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Sequence of Events Logging Has any one used the SOE cards yet to produce a sequence of events log? How does the event timestamp from the card relate to the Wallclock time of the CPU? We have all of the available documentation and can retrieve the event lists from the module but can't see how the time relates to the CPU time. We don't need it to be 100% accurate, and in a pinch will just record the log relative to the initial event. Any suggestions? ### Assistant: You're seeing the Coordinated System Time of logix. Which is the number of microseconds since some date in the 70's (it's different depending on which firmware you're running). I looked into this awhile back and found this technote... http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=40008 Basically you convert the controller CST to real world UDT. Yes, thanks, I finally found it in there. Once I'd got my Techconnect Authorisation sorted out.:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Running RSView32 Runtime and Works on the same HMI Can RSView32 Runtime and Works be loaded on to the same HMI/desktop computer in different user accounts? ie. one user will be used for Runtime and one for Works. The operating system is Windows XP Pro SP2. If so, are there any technical papers on how this is done / loading instructions? ### Assistant: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but View32 isn't that picky. As long as your project directory (containing the .rsv file and sub folders) is accessible by both Windows accounts, and RSLinx is there for all users, you can run Works with one account and Runtime with another account. You can configure application security with RSView usernames. have you tried this? The only sticky point might be if Works automatically installs for all users, not just the installing user. The problem I am having is once runtime is loaded on a user account and I switch to the other user account to load works the software detects that runtime as been previously loaded on the computer. If I proceed with the install, runtime is removed. AFAIK Works installs the runtime-only binary (C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSViewrsvrt32.exe) as well as the Works binary so you only need to install Works to get both. Mike n"}
{"text": "### Human: Component PanelView to VFD I was told the Component PanelView can only communicate directly to a PowerFlex 4XX, no other drive. Has any one tried communicating directly to a drive with any luck? ### Assistant: I'm semi-successfully sending integers through modbus rtu via RS485 to Emerson Epsilon-P drives. Semi-successfully, because the Emerson drives can only receive data over the RS485. This causes the Panelview Component screen to report a communication error, even though the data successfully arrived at the Emerson drives. I'm using a PvC 300, which does not have an ethernet port. If I'd been able to use PvC 600, I could have used ethernet to connect the Emerson drives to the PvC600, used modbus TCP, and have MUCH more information, and have it flow both ways. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk CPR7 INSTALLATION HANGS WITH XP Hi , The Factory talk installation hangs up at Removing files Backup , i gone through the technote also , Grisoft antivirus is not installed on PC only fresh operating system is installed and windows firewall is OFF still it is not allowing to install the factory talk ....... Can anyone help me out ...... this problem i have seen first time with Wxp ... thanks ### Assistant: I know you mentioned fresh OS, so can I assume you are not running any instances of Rslinx services! Also if the process wfcu.exe is running I have seen this hang installs. Just end that process and see if install completes Thanks for your reply , it is resolved now. The exact problem was i have connected it to Domain , and Domain security policies were not giving permission to installed though it was login in Domain Administrator. Thanks for the feedback, its good to know for future information.:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Parameterising motion control routines I have an application with a number of identical axes requiring identical MotionTask subroutines. Rather than duplicate the subroutines for every axis I would like to parameterise them using the SBR instruction. However, there is obviously one AXIS_SERVO_DRIVE data type for each axis, and instances of this data type can only be defined in Controller Tags. If I try to define an instance of AXIS_SERVO_DRIVE to act as a parameter for my subroutine(s) then I get errors about the axis not being associated with a motion group. So - is there a way of parameterising routines for motion control or do you just have to duplicate reams of ladder logic for each axis? Mike ### Assistant: A much easier method for duplicating motion instructions, is to use the new add-on blocks. I have done this with a system that had 16 axis all needing the same logic. Hope this helps I did wonder about that. I guess one issue there is that you can't access controller tags from the add-on instruction logic (or motion group program tags), or at least not without passing in each & every one you want to access as a parameter. Accessing controller tags from an add-on instruction probably isn't particularly good practice anyway. Mike Instead of passing all global parameters as seperate parameters into an AOI, better to make an UDT and use only that variable as InputOutput parameter. This makes the AOI faster and code clearer. Big advantage from AOI is, that all code is the same. It might even be source code protected.Disadvantage is that you must make a new download after AOI code change. Also, take in consideration that inside an AOI you can NOT use the GSV/SSV instructions. Good luck choosing...C Also, take in consideration that inside an AOI you can NOT use the GSV/SSV instructions.Yep, that means AOI no good. I think I'm just going to have to get it working for one axis & then cut 'n' paste, yuk... Mike n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV550 -> SLC 5/04 comm failed I can’t get my PV550 (dh485) to talk to my SLC 5/04. I set up the comms to point to the SLC 5/04 and I think I’ve got all the nodes numbers right, but … nothing. What am I missing? ### Assistant: This may sound like a dumb question, but it's easy to get the wrong one. Which cable are you using? The SLC5/04 uses a 1747-CP3 to connect to your computer. *BUT* to connect it to a PV550, you use a 2711-NC13. The pinouts are completely different. (If you only have a CP3, you can change the pinout to match a NC13 cable is you attach a null-modem adapter to one end.) JHutch Is the SLC set up for DH485? The serial port defaults to DF1. Doesn't a SLC 5/04 have a DH+ and RS232T configuration, where the Rs232 is configurable for communicating through a 1761-NET-AICfor a DH485 network, therefore are you going through a Net-AIC to interface w/ the PV550. Depending on which PV550 rhonda is using, the Net-AIC may not be necessary. For instance, a 2711-b5a5 PV550 has a RS232 (dh485) port ... so you would directly connect to the channel 0 on the SLC with a 2711-NC13 cable. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: LOGIX 5000 CONTROLLER STATUS Hi everyone, first post so please be gentle..... We are using RS-VIEW SE V4 (CPR7) Is there a prebuilt template or utility anywhere for interrogating and displaying the status of modules within Logix 5000 racks? I know there are image files within the Libraries showing PLC racks and the like but these are just pretty pictures. I also know I could use a series of GSV instructions to pull the required data from the modules but this seems quite time consuming and if there is a simpler way to do it then why not? Any feedback would be appreciated. Many Thanks ### Assistant: Hi, Go to the Rockwell sample codes page (just google Rockwell and samples). In there select faceplates for technologies, and a whole list of faceplates and AOI's will be listed ready for use. Thanks Yorkshire Man. I knew i`d seen it somewhere but couldn`t find it! http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/public/documents/webassets/sc_home_page.hcst Direct link to Sample Code website for convenience. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Read tag from datalog I need save a value into hard drive from RSView32, and read it value when i want (from hard drive) . How i can do it?? I save the data using data model but how read??... what option's i have with RSview32? thank's ### Assistant: What's the condition for reading the value? How many values? How often? And what do you want to do with it (trend, view on screen, report?) Maybe the datalog isn't the best way to do what you want, but more information is needed. Hi. the condition for reading is when i into a screen, the tag's or values are 5 but can be more. i don`t need a historian but i need write values too this values are for to compare with a values from SLC and view on screen. thank`s and best regards proyectos_ISTAI, It sounds like you could benefit from using a Trend object on a display combined with a few numeric inputs to the side. The Trend object should allow you to compare your values with what you see in the SLC, and the numeric inputs can let you write values to the tags. -Marty... hi. Really i need write and read to/from hard drive. thank's and best regard's If you log to ODBC, you can use a query to retrieve the data from the model. Take a look at tech note 29789. It talks about how to embed a query into Excel, which in turn extracts data from the same ODBC data source that RSView32 uses to log the data. All a user needs to do is open the spreadsheet and there it is. Hope that helps. hi, but with ODBC i have a historial.i need the last date, read and write from/to hard drive, anytime in RSView32. thank's a lot, good tech note 29789. proyectos, Maybe you can describe your application in a little more details so we can understand the need and environment for the functionality you want? -Marty... Hi.Simplest way to do what you like, just use VBA - and then write/read your tag to HDD. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RsEnergyMetrix - Object reference not set to an instance of an object i have installed RsEnergyMetrix 1.60.00 SP2 (Build 1) on Windows Server 2003 with SQL Server 2005. when i click on - My User Setting- System Status- Add user- Add Deviceecc.ecc. Return the Error:Server Error in '/RSEnergyMetrix' Application.Object reference not set to an instance of an object.Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. Source Error: An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below. Stack Trace: [NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.] PEMS.EMMA.BLL.TimeZones.Load(SortedList& timeZones) +245 PEMS.EMMA.BLL.TimeZones.UTCToTZTime(DateTime UTCTime, String tzStandardName) +88 EMMA.UserSetup.PopulateControls() +535 EMMA.UserSetup.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) +1059 System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +67 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +35 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +739 Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2407; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2407 Tanks for Help . Best Regards. ### Assistant: problem solved .ID53732 n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSEmulate 5 is not Connecting with RSLinx Hi,I am using RSLinx 2.52 (CPR9) to connect with RSLogix Emulate5 5.00.08. when i start RSLinx and then try to start RS Emulate5 its give following error  Can't load C:program filesrockwell softwareRSLinxEMU5X.DLL from RSlinx directory When i am trying to Load a Ladder Logix file on RS Emuate5 without starting RSLinx, it gives an error RSLogix Emulate 5 has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. Please advise what could be the reason for the above.? ThanksAzmat ### Assistant: Try going to that directory through dos, and type : regsvr32 Emu5x.dll and see what happens? HI Alli m also experiencing same problem.can anyone advice me solution for this?thnx Did anyone try the patch referred to in this technote? 37836 JHutch Hi HutchThanx for the patch.it works!!!!!!!11 Cool. Glad it worked! JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Emonitor Odyssey Time Waveform First off I'd like to congratulate Rockwell on setting up this service. However as a condition monitoring guy I only use Entek products and suggest that you set up a forum specifically for this product range. My question relates to time waveform collection. I currently collect waveforms to supplement some of my vibration spectra. This involves collecting the waveforms and spectra as separate readings and therefore extends the data collection time. Is it possible to configure Odyssey so that the time waveform displayed is the same one that the spectrum is derived from? I.E. the TWF is only collected once and is displayed in both time domain and frequency domain? ### Assistant: This is the second request we've had on the eMonitor/Entek stuff. We are definitely considering a separate board for that product line. In the meantime, I suggest putting these questions in the HMI board (I'm told by the eMonitor support folks that this is the closest fit we've got for right now). Thanks,JHutch There is a little link chain about 9th or 10th icon over in the tool bar, or if you right click and choose linked, it will link or unlink all the plots you are currently viewing in a window to the same location id. You can create this view, it's not a default view, but most people will create it by using the split pain option. Once you get the plot view the way you like it, go to view and save view and save it. If you ever want to use the view again, click on the plot icon and select the view. Well if you only want to collect time waveform and derive the Spectrum from that TW in the Emonitor, then its possible. You can calculate Spectrum from Time waveform. You need to define the calculated measurement point for each location. Use FFT function to calculate FFT from TW while configuring the calculated measurement.Once you define a calculated measurement point, you need to update the calculations manually every time you unload the new TWF data to software.You can update the calculations by right clicking on calculated measurement point and in Process select Update Calculations. It'll take some time to update. You'll get a successful update message at the end. Hope this info will help you. To create a Calculated measurement, Refer to Knowledgebase document ( ID 39689). Alan... Depending on the actual data collection instrument you use, you can nearly always configure the time domain collection specs/filter/etc the same as the spectrum and get them to be collected together. Some collectors will do this, but the time domain you get in Emonitor may not be the same units as the spectrum. For instance, if you are using an accelerometer and have set up an IPS spectrum and IPS time domain with same collection specs/filter you may get the spectrum you want, but the time domain may say its IPS, but be in Gs... collector dependent... Other collectors will honor the unit settings in Emonitor and you may get the same units actually being displayed in spectra and time domain with the same collection specs. Now on to the practical side of things - as a condition monitoring guy, you are probably doing walk around stuff with an accelerometer/magnet and wanting to get G's time domain and IPS spectrum for the most part. You are wanting to minimize the amount of time you spend in actual collection too, for efficiency, all balanced with the value of the collected data... An acceleration time domain if collected at the same Fmax as the spectrum often doesn't give you the quality of results that you might truly want. The FFT, effectively, samples at 2.56 time the Fmax you set based on those Nyquist and Shannon guys and throwing away some FFT lines cause of low pass filter limits. This rate is needed to avoid the aliasing (foldback frequencies in the FFT due to sampling too slow). To visually characterize the time domain, you need a lot more than 2.56 samples per sine wave period, typically 10 to 25 per period. Throw in that you probably want the time domain to look for impacts from bearings/gears, then you are talking real fast rise time signals, sort duration pulses or ringdowns. The Fmax you use for a general machine health FFT results in too slow a sampling rate to effectively capture and visualize these impactive events well in most cases. The point I am meandering to here is that you might want to consider pumping up the Fmax for the time domain measurement so you can get and visualize the fast rise time data. Adjust the number of lines so you can get at least 3, shoot for 4 to 7 revolutions of the shaft in that time domain block too. This seems like a lot of extra time in collection, but realize that you do not need to do any averaging on this free run time domain, only one block of data is needed... Example - 1800 RPM w/antifriction bearings Spectrum, 1600 Lines, 2000 Hz Fmax, 6Hz HP filter, 4 averages, 50% overlap [DAT 2.40 seconds] Time, 1600 Lines, 5000 Hz Fmax, 6Hz HP Filter, 1 averages, 50% overlap [DAT 0.32 seconds] Total Data Acquisition Time = 2.72 seconds Dissimilar measurement specs, but you get more valuable and usable data with only a little bit of extra DAT needed over no time domain at all. If you use the lower Fmax as in the spectrum as well as those typical 4 averages, that time domain measure takes LOTS longer collect and provides, I feel, less valuable data. I don't know which collector you are using, but collectors such as the dataPAC1500, EnPAC 2500, CMVA60/65, etc. are easily able to bundle the dissimilar measurement specs at a single location together and they can be collected with a single keypress rather than treating them as separate measurements in the collector requiring you to move to the next point between each of them. My two cents... Regards, Brian :-) n"}
{"text": "### Human: how many stations Compactlogix Ethernet port support? I want use Comactlogix EtherNet port control I/O station.The adapter is 1794-AENT. I know controllogix 1756-ENBT can support 128 connectors,how about compactlogix? how to calculater the 1794 connectors? ### Assistant: There is a document titled Logix5000 Controllers Design Considerations publication #1756-RM094B-EN-P that discusses the connections and how to calculate them. You can download it from the Liturature web site. In addition to the manual stated above. If the aent is configured for rack optimise connection then all discrete modules in the aent rack will go through this connection. If there are any analog or specialty modules they will count as 1 connection each. So, it will be 1(rack optimise) + analog or specialty = num of connection for that rack. I believe the L32 and L35e's support 32 CIP connections. Another manual to look at is 1769-um011. There is also an Ethernet/IP Prediction Tool that will let you build your system and see exactly how much capacity you have available. EthernetIP Tool thanks all!:smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: 5/05 upgrade is slower? I have a system that uses 3 versa views, and a SLC 5/05, 16k memory and 10 Mbps all tied together through the Ethernet switch we got from IT a few months back. Our communication has always been a little bit “laggy” but working. Recently we tried to upgrade the system by putting in a 32k, 100 Mbps processor. But the communication rate did not get any better, in fact it has gotten significantly worse! Where it used to take just a few seconds to save online now gives plenty of time to get a cup of coffee. Any ideas on how we can increase our communication speeds? I know that when I look in the diagnostics for our Ethernet it says we are sending & receiving about 8-10 packets / second (here on my test bench with only the laptop and the old processor I am at about 40 / second) ### Assistant: Is the Ethernet switch managed? If not, you could use a managed switch to improve the communication rates. Another thing to look at is the Ethernet setup in the SLC 5/05. Is there an IP address set in the Gateway field of the processor communication setup. If an IP address is entered, but not connected it will cause the comms to slow down because the processor is trying to communicate to something that is not there. Hope this helps. Is the SLC connected in any way to the company ethernet network? If so you may want to separate the two to reduce traffic. One other possibility go in to RSLinx and go to communications >> configure CIP options and set it to 8 sec retry and 256 timeout and the max fast and max slow to 1. Apply these settings and retry. Also make sure S:2/15 is set to 1 under status file chan 1 for the comms servicing sel. You might also check that all the ethernet devices are set to 100Mb and not autobaud. If some components are set to autobaud, sometimes they will spend time autobauding and slow comms. S:2/15 Seems to have made all the difference, changed that and now it reacts much better. But now I need a new excuse for sneaking away to get coffee, rats. Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: How can i edit Multiple users at same time in RSLogix5000 for single controller ? I'm useing RSLogix5000 for Controllogix 1756-L61 controller. This Project Including defferent sections, we are planning for each section give to team members. how can i edit multiple users simultaneously in RSLogix5000 for single controller? any one know answer kindly reply to me. ### Assistant: The ControlLogix controller supports multiple people online, editing simultaneously, but RSLogix 5000 does not support the ability to have the same file open in more than one instance of RSLogix. The file is locked by the first user to open it. This can be worked around by making copies of the file. The changes made online will automatically be updated to whom ever is online with the controller, but not the documentation. Each time a user saves the file while online he will upload all changes made to the controller. After the days work is done, each user can export the database (which contains the rung and tag discriptions) and one user can import the various exports to reconstruct a completely documented file. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Missing EDS files on Rockwell web page I'm getting really frustrated with trying to find DeviceNet EDS files for the CompactBlock I/O modules we're using. I called for TechConnect Support a few months ago and got somebody who didn't seem too interested in resolving my issue. I then stumbled upon the secret to finding hard-to-find files in the search engine. I'm stumped on this one, though. We have a 1790D-T8A0 (8 Input 120VAC DNet, screw terminals) that the DeviceNet scanner detected with a different Product Code than all of our other 1790D-T8A0's. I can only find the 00010007008F0100.eds, and not the 0001000700530100.eds file that I would need for the new module I'm trying to commission. Any tips from anyone? I'm tempted to edit the old EDS file to change the product code to the one in our new module. Thanks in advance for any help you may send my way... Brent ### Assistant: MCDBrent The way I understand it is that there are two eds fils to describe these modules. One is for the module itself and the other for the chasis. I would suggest registering all 3 that are on the eds download. Also what is the issue device showing unrecognized? If you browse the cards over the devicenet network with linx and go to the device properties, do all of the modules show up with the same product code? It worries me when you say one of the modules shows up with a different product code. That is burned in at the factory. So if you have several modules that all look the same except one, you may need to return the module. That would also explain why there is no eds file for that device if it has the wrong product code. I think that Bus_Off is exactly right; this module has an incorrect Identity object burned into its NVRAM or RSNetworx is somehow scrambling the Identity data it is reading. Search on 1790D in the /EDS website and you'll find the chassis and the module EDS files: Chassis: 0001 006C 0053 0100 Module: 0001 0007 008F 0100 See how your Chassis ID is being read with the Product Type (07) of the Module, not of the Chassis (6C) ? I'd say that this one module needs replacement. You could work around by changing the Product Type in the EDS, but in my opinion if the Identity object is scrambled I wouldn't trust the rest of the module firmware to run correctly. The EDS files should generally not be frustrating. When working with Rockwell Products, as long as I keep my RSLinx upto date, I never even worry about having to download seperate EDS files. As what Ken had said, if you are getting a different product code then the others, then that module has had the wrong information burned in, which is a problem and you need to get that replaced, contact your local sales office or distributor. n"}
{"text": "### Human: control logix5000 addressing technique The command format of control logix5000 includes service codes,tags, IOI string and size. Thers is no physical address and name for the data items. I am facing problem in addressing of the commands. Can it be mapped through PCCC encapsulation? for ex: for a tag named 6th element of an array of REALs named setpoints whose IOI string will be 07 91 09 73 65 74 70 6f 69 7e 74 7300 28 05,how the addressing can be done for this tag. Plz help me out! ### Assistant: I'm afraid I don't completely understand the question, but it looks like you might be trying to address memory in the controllogix directly. This is not a good idea. The controller dynamically changes memory around during certain operations like downloading, online edits, etc. So the address that you have linked to today might not be the same tomorrow. RSLinx Single Node is a cost effective way to access all of the data inside the CLX processor. It opens an OPC connection to the controller and would allow any opc client access to the data. The communications are CIP over network. The PCCC Application Layer over DF1 I know can work with a PLC5, SLC or Micro, but those where not on the CIP Standard and I am pretty certain PCCC does not work over with a Logix controller. Everything is CIP there. With that being said, I am not certain how to resolve your answer other then suggest looking at the OVDA standard: www.odva.org n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View 32 on Vista NOT as Admin The release notes state View must run as administrator on Vista. In case no one at Rockwell noticed, that is a bad idea.Does anyone have a work-around so I can maintain my USER controls?Otherwise I will have to wait for Windows 7... ### Assistant: Historically, Rockwell software packages have often needed admin rights to run correctly under Windows (not just Vista). I can remember telling people years ago that they needed local admin rights to run PanelBuilder32 in Windows 2000. Please be aware, this is only LOCAL admin rights that are necessary. The user will only be able to mess up the local machine, in other words, but he/she won't be able to affect anything on the network. That being said, more and more awareness is being given to security with newer releases. As packages are rated to work with Vista, the necessary run rights are usually one of the main things that are dealt with to get Vista compatibility. Things are a-changing ... as they say. JHutch Usually, this is not an issue (I am completely isolated from the WWW). However, I now have Web Server, and it will soon connect outside of my network, and the forum topic on web server is very clear in agreeing with me about web security. The last time I played with the MS web server, it was runnable as a service (and therefore you can specify what login it runs under). So you could have the webserver run with limited permissions (which I agree with and also recommend) and still run RSView32 as a local admin account. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel View + and Micro Logix Can a Micro Logix Controler being Programed in RSLogix 500 comunicate and be controlled by a Panel View + touch screen programed in Factory Talk. RSLogix 500 Creates a RSS file not an ACD file for it's save and that is all I can get Factory Talk to look at. ### Assistant: With a MicroLogix (and SLCs and PLCs), the FactoryTalk View ME software talks directly to the processor, not to the development file created in RSLogix500. So, if you have a serial connection from your computer to the Micrologix, you'd set up your shortcut to use that connection to the processor and it would retrieve a list of tags through that link. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix L35E and RSL5K V17 Did anybody tried to browe a compactlogix L35E flashed with V17 firmware ? It seems that EDS file of L35E communication adapter isn't install with V17 of RSL5K. Even after installing it, the communication adapter is recognized but RSLinx is unable to brows 1769 backplane correctly (show 1756 module VA1769 instead of compact bus) ### Assistant: y need to register Compactbus local EDS File. Did you install the new RSLinx Classic that was released along with V17? That should have installed and registered all the eds files you needed. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Programming RSLogix 5000 I am trying to program a bit to turn on if another bit is on for less than 500ms, how should I do this.CheersMick Continued from my first question (First time I have used this to post a question and I clicked on the solved accidentally, sorry). Thanks i_can_spell_plc but I want the bit (B) to come on only if bit (A) it is on for less than 500ms, In the program you have written it will come on (bit B) straight away. As bit A is off and B.TT is on. CheersMick ### Assistant: You're going to have to restate the application. If 500 milliseconds is your maximum duration to detect, what is your minimum duration ? If this isn't a brain teaser, what's the application ? Application - I am trying to locate a fault that switches off a control relay. We use Citect to record the alarms but I believe that the input to the PLC is to quick for the SCADA to pick this up. Therefore we do not know what is causing the fault. I therefore want to have a bit switch on if I lose an input, from the field, for less than 500ms (after this period, I am assuming that Citect will see the alarm and record the fault). The minimum time is 0 (knowing that I have a scan period of 50ms).CheersMick Ok. In my first post I assumed bit A would normally be off. So you're saying you want to capture if A goes off for less than 500ms? This will turn on B if A is off for less than 500ms. Thanks for your help n"}
{"text": "### Human: compactflash with safety plc L62s Hi guys, Does anyone know if the compactflash function (auto firmware update) works with the safety plc L62S?I know the early V16 firmware versions did not allow this. How about the most resent, or V17? Cheers,C ### Assistant: Autoflash is not allowed with any of the L6xS controllers. I think it relates to the TUV certification. thanx for your answer. I also found this text in the manual 1756_um020_en.pdf:The GuardLogix controller does not support OS upgrades or user program storage and retrieval by using a CompactFlash card. However, in version 16 and later of RSLogix 5000 software, you can view the contents of a CompactFlash card, if one is installed in the primary controllerNot so clear that text, but it probably means that firmware upgrades are not possible....:smileysad: n"}
{"text": "### Human: HMI Retentive Tags do not retain their values after application shutdown (FTView SE 5.0) HMI Retentive Tags do not retain their values after application shutdown. The customer has been using FTView SE 5.0 (CPR9). I've used the workaround suggested by KB document ID 27078 but I can't solve the issue. Do you know how can I fix it? Best Regards ### Assistant: Well, other than writing VBA script to save and load the tags, you could also use an emulator and change your memory tags to device tags. Since the device tags are inherently retentive, this would not be subject to the problems with the memory tags retentive checkbox. If you had FactoryTalk Integrator, you could also use that to grab tag values from SE and stuff them back when the project restarts. Sorry that none of those answers is a quick fix, just the best I can think of given the anomaly with the retentive tags. These should no be a big problem, especially for string type retentative tag, what I do is create start-up macro, and run this macro during startup service, the fastest way is use EXCEL sheet to edit, then copy and paste, however, I do discover a issue, when online add string type retentative tag, all the value looks dis-order, and I have to edit that macro and restart the service, sometime, this is not allowed by customer because system already on-live Has the customer installed any of the patches since the 5.0 release? Try setting these flags in the display properties where the retentive tags are used. cache after displaying -- yes/always updating and show last acquired value. If you can't retain values after that, then go to the project folder, cache folder, RMDATA folder, you will see some .RET files. This is where your information is stored when you make changes to retentive tags. Verify that the digital, analog and string .ret files are updating when you make changes to the corresponding retentive tag type. Also check the security on those files to verify that the user in question has the ability to write to them. Hope this get you a little closer to zeroing in on the issue. Dan, There was a patch released within the past week or so - KB doc id is 53973 - which looks like it's what you need. The title is Patch to fix an issue where retentive tags revert to initial values...Dan Linkified for convenience - JHutch Did the patch help? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can parameter file name assigned by global parmater in RSView ME? HI, I created a gobal valve object on RSView ME, with ### Assistant: Try this: Go to the Edit menu and select Global Object Defaults. Under LinkAnimation default select the Link without expressions option. Then you should be able to change the macro on the button. Not that changing this setting will not affect existing instances of your global objects. You'll need to create new instances after you change the setting. Try it with one first to make sure that does the trick.^Opps, that was supposed to say Note that... Hmmm, that's interesting. I would think that a global object should probably follow its global object parameter setting and ignore the parameter file. For now, instead of using #1 in your global object, use #999 or something -- anything not already assigned using the parameter file. Since you're using the global object paramers, it doesn't really matter what your substitution number is. Out of curiousity, I know you defined #1 in the global object and you have a #1 in your param file -- do you have a #1 on the screen also? n"}
{"text": "### Human: PVP Video port? How could PVP or PVP ce support video signal ? And can RSVIEW/FT ME show the video displays? ### Assistant: The PV+ line does not have a video out port, so you cannot redirect the video signal to an outside monitor. However, if you run the ME Station Runtime on a standard computer, the ME app can display on whatever monitor the computer supports. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Language Support I have set up the language Configuration Editor to allow my aplication to display both English and Spanish.Then I exported translated and imported the text strings.When I test the application it gives me back a warningLanguageSwitchButton2. A language switch was attempted to 'Spanish (Mexico), es-MX' which is not supported by the application.How do I get my application to support other Languages? ### Assistant: The first thing that comes to mind is that there are multiple Spanish language settings possible. Your button looks like it is changing to Spanish (Mexico) es-MX but your application may be configured for a different dialect of Spanish (ie, Spanish (Traditional) es-ES). As far as Windows (and therefore Machine Edition) is concerned, different dialects of a language are completely different languages. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTView - Access UDT elements I need to access some elements of an UDT from FTView, in the documentation it's recommended to access them directly from the PLC because it's more efficient, but I need to have some of the UDT elements in the FTView database to use alarms and security. The UDT size is 64 bits (8 bytes), from which only 8 bits are used in FTView, and only 4 bits of them need to be in the database. In this case, is it more efficient to have some elements in the FTView database and others accessed directly? or is it better to have all the UDT elements I use in the FTView database? Thanks in advance ### Assistant: Well, you *can't* use bit tags in the FTView ME tag database for alarms. You have to use direct reference tags for bit triggered alarms. That said, I usually recommend moving data out of UDTs with the various HMI devices. While UDTs theoretically work (and *usually* do) sometimes, for no good reason, the tags fail to read until they are pulled out and placed in normal tag types. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Remote monitoring? I have 12 small plants within a 100 mile radius of each other. I live about 60 miles from each of them and our main office is about 300 miles away. All but 2 plants are using SLC 505 for process control. The other 2 are using Controllogix. I want to know the most efficient and cost effective way to remotely monitor these plants. I really have no experience in telemetry so any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks ### Assistant: The RSLogix packages can do this easily enough ... *if* you can get into the network from home. Most companies lock up their networks fairly tight so that this isn't possible. On the same note, some companies have VPN (virtual private networking) solutions available to allow specific people to get in from home. You'll need to check with your IT support staff to see if this is an option at your location. JHutch Thanks for the reply. The problem is these are remote plants with no networks at all, not even a land lines. Thanks Hayjay If you don't even have a land-line telephone for dialup Internet or direct modem access, then cellular IP might be a good method for you. Digi Corp. makes several cellular-to-IP devices that work well with Rockwell's EtherNet/IP protocol. Security is going to be up to you, but you can get some good pointers from Digi's chief engineer on his personal website: http://iatips.com/blog/ Thanks Ken! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Bar Code Reader over ethernet I have a Sick CLV-400 that communicates over an ethernet network via a CMF-400. I am trying to find a solution to retrieve the bar code data from the host terminal (port 1024). I have a control logix processor on the network with a 1794-ENBT. Does anyone know if I can do this with my current hardware configuration or is there another hardware configuration that would need to be used. I have bench tested reading the data in to the serial port using ascii instructions which works I would just like to find a way to utilize the e-net connection due to location of the components. I can do this using hyperterminal so I know that I am getting good data. ### Assistant: A lot of scanners and vision systems have the ability to send and retreive messages, and I have done this with DVT and Cognex cameras. I don't know anything specific on the Sick CLV-400 or the CMF-400, but I do know that on some systems that I've had better luck retreiving data via the serial port running into a 1734-232ASC on a Point I/O backplane with a 1734-AENT as the Ethernet gateway. I currently do this with our Smarteye S-Net's because the S-Nets are are also sharing duty with Cimplicity PE HMI stations, and the drivers have a tendency to cause a connection to hang up until all 4 ethernet connections are hung up and the S-Net has to be power cycled. Even when the connections are hung, the serial port continues to work without issues. I have experience using SICKCLV-431 scanners. They are connected to a CDM 420-1101 base unit. This particular base unit has serial rs-232 communications. I then use a CMF500-1000 serial to ethernet (Ethernet-IP not TCP/IP) converter. This allows me to use ethernet messages to send ASCII commands from the PLC to the BC scanner. I can send down match codes and read back scan results. I have done this with PLC-5s and Control Logix. It works fairly well, but there is quite a bit of setup and learning involved. The serial to ethernet converter is the only solution that SICK has that will talk Ethernet-IP. They do have a TCP/IP scanner, but it is not compatible with AB ethernet (that I am aware). I have CMF400-3101 on each of 8 scanners, I have them installed and I can use the CLV setup software to configure each scanner over ethernet. However, I don't have much experience using ethernet with third party devises to a control logix processor. I'm not sure how to configure instructions in the PLC to read the data. Do you have any examples of code for your devises? Thanks Even though you can configure the scanners over ethernet using CLV assistant, that does not mean that you will be able to talk to the scanners over ethernet with a PLC. As I stated before, Allen Bradley PLCs use Ethernet/IP, NOT TCP/IP. I used a serial barcode scanner and then used a serial to Ethernet/IP converter. It was not easy and it took lots of data manipulation, but it works. I think you will be out of luck unless you buy more equipment. Have you tried Real Time Automation? They make many different kinds of comms converters and gateways. Hi,I've another experience using barcode reader (Motorola) on ethernet and was able to communicate with it using socket function on 1756-EWEB module. Barcode reader run as clients and connect to TCP socket server on Eweb side to send ascii frames. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem displaying parameters as literal strings I'm passing three paramters to a popup using the /t method. For example: Display popup /tTIC100,This is a valve, °F I'm then trying to show these on the display in text objects by inserting a literal string variable. It works for the first and last parameters but not for the second parameter. I'm guessing it has something to do with the spaces in the second paramter. I put a test button on the popup to display the second parameter in a message box (from VBA) and it shows it correctly so I know the parameter was passed to the popup correctly. Does anyone know if there's a way to make this work? The only other option I can think of is to set the text object's caption from VBA. Thanks for any help ### Assistant: I'm guessing it has something to do with the spaces in the second paramter. Your hunch is correct. Unfortunately, the only way to make it work is to remove the spaces, or as you mentioned, use VBA. You could also set the text to a string tag and then display that. The development team is aware of this but I am not sure when it will be addressed. If you want to play around though, try surrounding the string with curly braces. { } I am not sure what the parser will do with that. If you are looking for an example of how to use VBA to read text parameters, see tech note AID26950. Once you have the parameters in VBA, you can use them to set the Caption property of your object(s). JHutch - Linkified for convenience. Thanks for the replies! SharonB: it's definitely the spaces. I tried enclosing the parameter in curly brackets but it didn't help. BTW, I noticed that if there are spaces in a param the command wizard automatically puts curly brackets around the whole parameter list which happens to make things worse. Looks like the best solution for now is to use VBA. JonathanKent: I already had the VBA method working, but thanks anyway for the link. I'll probably look at it anyway to see what other usefull tidbits may be there. n"}
{"text": "### Human: newby needs help with panelview and micrologix 1500 Hi,This is my first programming experience with Rockwell and I seem to have a problem with state buttons not changing state on screen. I have four almost identical systems comprising Microlgix 1500 plc, connected to a Panelview Plus600. I purchased all systems at the same time but the supplier has sent me one Panelview that is running version 4.00.10.60(CPR 7). The other three are running a version 5 release. The three version 5 systems work as expected but I had to create a Runtime 4 version for the fourth system. On screen a few of the state buttons do not visually change state, though they seem to be updating the tag correctly, the same code compiled for Runtime 5 works perfectly. Can I upgrade the Panel view software and if so how do I go about doing this? Is this a bug in tht version of software or do I have faulty Panelview? Thanks PM ### Assistant: Absolutely. The firmware can be download from the following website (follow the prompts for your particular device): http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/firmware.html JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Calling data from a data log model via a parameter file I have created a simple trend screen in SE (CPR 9) that I will replicate through the use of parameter files. I am using a data log model to archive data (temperatures). Is it possible to call a data log point from a data log model via a parameter file thusly providing ARCHIVED data vs. real time data?I am able to access the tag defined in the data log model with a parameter placekeeper but not the datalog. I have more than one datalog model that I will need to reference. ### Assistant: On my trend screens we have buttons to hide or diplay certains pens at a time, change the range of display etc. It seems likely you could pass in values to be set in a similar fashion. Ex S_Trends.XAxis.TimeSpan = S_Trends.XAxis.TimeSpan + 43200 That adds 12 hrs to the range displayed on the Trend graph. If what you need is a hotkey to show data from a set date like the first of the month there should be a way to do this in visual basic and then set StartdDate (?) to that value. To set the startdate you would also need to turn off allow scrolling. Scott Stanek, dBA Arrmaz Custom Chemicals hunts4beer wrote: I have created a simple trend screen in SE (CPR 9) that I will replicate through the use of parameter files. I am using a data log model to archive data (temperatures). Is it possible to call a data log point from a data log model via a parameter file thusly providing ARCHIVED data vs. real time data? Yes, assuming all the pens are in the same datalog model. When you define the pen name as #1 in the Pen Attributes table, add the datalog model name in the Model field. As long as the pen names #1, #2, #3, etc. are actually in the datalog model name you entered, the trend will show the archived data. If you want to access data through many different datalog models with one single trend display then you will need to write VBA code on the trend display that adds the tags to the trendX display. The VBA code to add a new pen to a trend object called Trend1 would be: Trend1.Pens.Add <tagname>, description-of-point, eng_units, <mineu-single>, <maxeu-single>, <datalogmodelname> The problem here is that if you are using direct reference tags in the datalog model then you will need to enter in the EU's and Description for each tag in the parameter file as well. This could be very time consuming. and with large parameter files the load could be great enough that the loading of the display slows considerably. However, If you are using HMI based tags in the datalog model then the description, engineering units and scaling comes in automatically. Regards, xaq n"}
{"text": "### Human: K7000 Aux Feedback I have an application feeding coiled steel, there is slippage. Can the Aux Feedback be used for position control (encoder driven by the steel)and still have velocity control of the axis (no runaway) if the encoder is disconnected from the steel. I tried most of the alternate servo loops and half caused drive errors while the other half ran away if the encoder was disconected. OR is there a better way to control the feed to length using the Aux Feedback as Feedback Only? ### Assistant: Dual Position Servo is your best bet. I believe you have to monitor velocity error in order to trip on encoder loss. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can't add ethernet driver to RSLinx 2.50 Hi, I am a new to RSLinx and I installed 2 licensed RSLinx Professional. One is working fine, but in the second one I can't add ethernet driver (I can list it, but if I click on Add New, nothings happened :-/). I tried some tips from knowledgebase (like a reinstal WIN TCP/IP,...), but nothing helped.. Can anybody help me?? Thanks! Ondrej ### Assistant: Haven't seen this one, but I suspect something might have happened during the install or it could be a harmony files thingFirst, delete the harmony files 1. Close all software including Rslinx Classic. If Rslinx is running as a service disable it ( to disable Rslinx from running as a service refer to answer ID 31054 ). 2. Then, go to Windows Explorer and , refer to the computer's hard drive ( for example C drive) where Rslinx Classic is installed. 3. Next, click on the + sign next to the Program files folder, click on + sign next the Rockwell software folder and, then, double click on the RSCOMMON folder. In the RSCOMMON folder two Harmony files ( Harmony.hrc and, Harmony .rsh ) should be displayed. One of the Harmony file may be displayed as Harmony this is okay. Try again if it doesn't work let's go after the install Standard Clean-up: 1). Uninstall RSLinx from the Add/Remove Programs applet in the Control Panel.2). Uninstall Rockwell Software Harmony Runtime or Harmony Runtime 2 from the Add/Remove Programs applet in the Control Panel.3). From Windows Explorer, delete the X:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLinx directory (where X: is the drive on which RSLinx is installed). DO NOT delete the entire X:Program FilesRockwell Software directory!4). From Windows Explorer, delete the X:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSCommonharmony.* files (where X: is the drive on which RSLinx is installed).5). Run the Registry Editor by clicking Start > Run and typing regedit in the dialogue box. Create a backup copy of the registry by clicking Registry > Export. Save the copy to a secure directory.In the registry editor, delete the HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareRockwell SoftwareRSLinx registry key.In the registry editor, delete the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARERockwell SoftwareHarmony registry key.In the registry editor, delete the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARERockwell SoftwareRSLinx registry key.In the registry editor, delete the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionApp PathsRSLinx.exe registry key.In the registry editor, delete the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersion Uninstall{34540622-805E-4CC7-98CF-65A43E99CF4D} registry key.In the registry editor, delete the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionUninstallRSLinx Hello, first I tried to delete Harmony files and then I did all the proceed with Clean-up RSLinx SW, but unfortunately it didn't work. So what I did and it didn't work:- delete harmony files- RSLinx uninstall&clean-up (reinstall)- disable second disconnected ethernet card (I read that more than one ethernet connection can cause problems)- reinstall TCP/IP protocol I really don't know what could be wrong :-/ Ondrej Sorry for non Slovak users ;-) Ondrej, viac ethernetovych driverov mne funguje bez problemov. Neviem ci pouzivas dve fyzicke ethernetove karty alebo iba dva drivre v Linxe. Dneska som do jedneho zo serverov vlozil druhu sietofku ktora ma IP X.X.25.X, prva je na zakladnej doske a ma IP X.X.24.X a funguje to cez jeden linx. Dalej neviem ci pouzivas ETH/IP alebo iba ETH. Vsetky problemy vsak zatial u mna riesilo preinstalovanie linxu pripadne zmazanie tych harmony suborov. Skus pripadne pridat nejake obrazky. caf. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Guardmaster safety gate lock TLS-2 GD 2 Can someone help me with this type of lock? There is some sort of conflict concerning output terminals 11/12, 21/22 and 33/34 on the lock. In the manual 11/12 is NC, 21/22 is NC and 33/34 is NO but next page says terminals 11/12 and 21/22 contact is open when power on. 33/34 is open when power on. What Is the state of terminals 11/12, 21/22 and 33/34 when lock is unpowered? Sure it can´t be NC,NC and NO if the terminals are NC, NC and NO when powered. ### Assistant: The TLS2-GD2 is a postive mode tonque operated guard interlock switch that incorporates an solenoid that either locks a machine guard closed until power is isolated or has a power to lock function. Either way the contacts 11 &12 NC, 21&22 NC and 33&34 NO are actuated by the position of the tonque actuator. With the tonque actuator in the switch, contacts 11&12 will be closed, 21&22 will be closed and 33&34 will be open. With the tonque actuator removed from the switch, contacts 11&12 are open, 21&22 are open and 33&34 are closed. Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory talk and Change Management Well, i work in a big company that produce beverage, and we have instaled 14 production lines, one line have near to 20 PLC (80% Allen Bradley, 20% Siemens), but have other devices instaled too, like IFIX IHM, Allen Bradley IHM, DANFOSS VLT frec. variators (http://www.danfoss.com/Spain/Busines...vesSolutions/), Heuf Inspectors (http://www.heuft.com/hs/uploaded_fil.../sp_heuft.pdf). We need a solution to the change management problem, and we like to know how Proficy Change Management can help us in this case. We like to know if this software support Siemens PLC´s, AB PLC´s, DANFOSS comunication, HEUF Comunication, and backup all of them with his configurations and programs. Rewards ### Assistant: Hi, check this web site: www.gepasoft.de - its part of Rockwell Automation. They provide solution for AB, Siemens and others. M. n"}
{"text": "### Human: AssetCentre Software Installation First of all, could we possibly open a message board for just AssetCentre or Asset Management products? Now to my question.I currently own RSMACC, but never installed it. I have received the upgrade to AssetCentre v2.00.01. I found out that v2.21.00 (CPR 9) was available for download, so I downloaded it. Since I don't have any experience with AssetCentre other than at Automation Fair, I want to go slow. To start, I just want to backup three ControlLogix L63 PAC controllers for archiving and comparison (I'm in the pharmaceutical industry, so change control is very important). Calibration tracking is not on the radar at this time. I would like to know if it is possible to install the client and agent software on the AssetCentre server along with RSLogix 5000 and RSLinx software? Are there any loading issues with this method? I know distributing the agents across multiple computers helps shed the load, but if I stagger the backup times, will the Server handle it. If a separate computer is used as the agent, is there any general rule for how many controllers that agent can access? I'm sure that the size of the programs has a big impact on that decision. I have been on the knowledge base, and have seen many articles on AssetCentre, but none that I can see seem to address this question. Any information from users more experienced than I would be more than welcome. Thanks, Dlogger ### Assistant: First of all, I, too, believe that it is necessary to open a message board for MES product suite. - I would like to know if it is possible to install the client and agent software on the AssetCentre server along with RSLogix 5000 and RSLinx software? Are there any loading issues with this method? I know distributing the agents across multiple computers helps shed the load, but if I stagger the backup times, will the Server handle it. Yes. You can install all of them on the same box. I don't know the specs of your server, but unless you use the server for another purpose, it will be fine, especially, when you have only 3 CLXs in your asset tree. - If a separate computer is used as the agent, is there any general rule for how many controllers that agent can access? I'm sure that the size of the programs has a big impact on that decision. I am not sure since we have installed the agent on the same box with everything else. We have a few ACD files with size greater than 10MB. I do find Asset Centre struggling with such large file size. My impression is that Asset Centre seems to work better with many smaller files than few larger files. One thing well worth mentioning is that organise your Schedules by type of product.For example, let's say you have 30 PLC-5s, 20 SLCs and 10 ControlLogix in your asset tree --Root --Group A --CLX (5 Assets) --SLC (10 Assets) --PLC5 (15 Assets) --Group B --CLX (5 Assets) --SLC (10 Assets) --PLC5 (15 Assets) And you have the following Schedules configured, Group A - CLXGroup A - SLCGroup A - PLC5Group B - CLXGroup B - SLCGroup B - PLC5 then, organise your Schedule this way. Group A - CLX 1:00PMGroup B - CLX 2:00PM Group A - SLC 7:00PMGroup B - SLC 8:00PM Group A - PLC5 3:00AMGroup B - PLC5 4:00AM This way, Asset Centre does not have to switch between different applications when running its Backup and Compare Schedule. Woobin Woodbin, Thanks for the great information. Your suggestions on laying out the schedule are very helpful. I'll give it a try. Hopefully we will have a separate message board for Asset Management. Thanks again, Dlogger Hi everybody, I also support idea of new mesage board for AssetCentre. Dlogger, I have installed all on one server (core, agent, client + client on another 3 pc). Actual I have schedules for backup and compare 28 FLX, 46CLX, 2 GLX and 221 VFD (PF40, 70, 700H, SMC) and FTAC server is very unreliable -schedule freeze... I have long time problem with PowerFlex. RA try to fix it from March when I migrate from RSMacc. Now I would like to add 80 PanelView Plus and 43 Fanuc robots. But how?Btw. FTAC CPR7 was veeeery slow (I have 3,2GHz Intel CPU and 4GB of RAM). New ver 2.20 CPR9 is better.About the schedule. I create 6 schedules called monday to saturday. Every night server check some devices. Tree is divided to sectors how plant look like. Dont worry, 3 CLX sould be done without any problem :-)))Good luck M. Keyman, Thanks for the information. It was very useful. Just yesterday, I was able to perform my first automated backups(only) of my CLX processors. I am running v 2.21 (CPR9). I have only tried one backup & compare, and it failed. Not sure what the problem is, but I'm still investigating. Thanks again for the information. Dlogger n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000: enabled or not? Scenario: Ultra 3000 drive with enable input high but no enable output. No error codes or any other indication from drive or Ultraware that anything was wrong. Maintenance crew changed motor once and drive twice to no avail. Finally measured input voltage on input contactor and found one phase losing more than 50% voltage across contactor. Changed contactor and all was well. Tip: Always check input voltage on Ultra 3000 before performing any other troubleshooting procedures as these drives are not smart enough to know when a phase is low. You will not find this in the drive manual or in Knowledgebase. ### Assistant: Just curious as to whether you are monitoring your DC Bus voltage in the PLC logic? Motion planner can set it up as a real-time feedback..... The Germans that did the programming are not monitoring the DC bus voltage, however, Ultraware showed it to be normal, around 660V. The 230VAC drive can run down to 100VAC and the 460VAC drive can run down to 230VAC, so it is likely that as long as the DC Bus was at an acceptable level that the drive thought everything was ok. If it dipped below 100 or 230VAC, then you'd get an E37 fault with is AC Line Loss. I've seen this when we blew a fuse on the 2nd leg of the incoming. Just wondering, did the DC Bus led go green solid? That's good tip, thanks anyway n"}
{"text": "### Human: SE Communication to a Westinghouse PC 500 I'm looking to use RSView SE to monitor data from an Westinghouse PC 500 (Siemens). Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks ### Assistant: Use Kepserver Enterprise as the data server. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can not stop Rockwell application services When I try to stop Rockwell application services to move the activation from a desktop with EVMOVEW utility I see the below message: Could not stop Rockwell application services on local computerError 5: Access denied see atttach file ### Assistant: hifirst restart your computer and again try move activations..cheers Very rarely do you need to stop the application services to free up the activation. Most commonly you just need to shut down the Rockwell Programs, and Linx usually gets people because you need to right click and choose exit, the x just tosses it to the task bar. If you cannot stop the Rockwell Application service, chances are that something is using it. Maybe you have an SE HMI server configured to run automatically? Try running the SE Service Manager under Start-> Run-> Rockwell Software-> Factory Talk View-> Tools. If that doesn't do the trick, then maybe a remote client is hanging on for dear life. You might try disconnecting the network cable. Hope that helps. If you have FactoryTalk View Studio ME installed, look in the Processes tab in your Windows Task Manager for RSLinxNG.exe. If it is there, shut it down; this is the RSLinx Enterprise service and even if you have it configured for Manual in your Local Services, it will remain running after you close Factory Talk View Studio ME. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus ASCII read I have been trying to find out how to do an ASCII capture from a keyboard attached to a Panelview Plus 1000 running RSView ME. I need to put this info into a data tag and push it to a SLC5/04 to read. Any thoughts? ### Assistant: A string input enable object would do just that unless I'm misunderstanding your question. The object accepts ASCII input from any USB keyboard OR from an on screen pop keyboard. The object is configured with a processor tag so that it writes the information to the processor as soon as you hit the ENTER key. You're limited to the number of characters you configure the object and the tag for, but other than that it works pretty much as you'd expect. Here is an older v3.20 era answer that talks about it. Basics are the same no matter which version you use: AID 32216 JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Corrupted screen I have had a problem with screens with push buttons. Initially the display opens as expected. When the first push button is pressed, all of the push buttons on the screen show the Error state. The problem is a corrupted GFX file. I have corrected this problem in the past by saving then reloading the GFX file but forgot how it is done (proceedure). Can anyone help me out here. ### Assistant: Hmmm, sounds like you might be talking about exporting and importing the screen ... If you right click on the display name in the Display tree in Studio, you can export the screen to a XML file. Then, reimport it to a new screen. I don't know if that will help, but that's at least how you export/import screens. JHutch That is not it. It has something to do with RSLinx NG. The buttons work (start, stop, etc.) but the display goes to ERROR on every button. RSLinxNG.xml doesn't have anything to do with GFX files. That's the configuration file that holds the comms configuration data (which may be corrupted). If you blow that away and replace it with the default file, you'll lose all your comms config information and it'll have to be recreated by hand. See this technote for instructions on removing the file: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=25748 JHutch I've seen this issue when there is a bad tag address on the display. The best way to find the bad tag is to test the display in FTStudio (in Test display mode). Thank you Alex B!! It was the Runtime Database file in the cache that was corrupted. I deleted the directory and rebooted to fix it. Thanks again. The solution is to delete the C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRSView EnterpriseMEHMI projectsPROJECT NAMEcacheRDMDATA directory then reboot the computer. The runtime database is then reconstructed and the problem is fixed. I have not used the Test Display mode. I haven't been able to find documentation on what it does or how to use it. I would be most grateful if you could enlighten me. Thanks This answer may sound flippant ... but it Tests (the) Display. ;) It runs that one display as if it were running on your runtime device, but it uses the local tab shortcut to find the processor tags instead of the target tab. Let's you see if that screen does and shows what you expect it to. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: GE Fanuc Communication I'm needing to communicate to a GE Fanuc Series 90-70 with Ethernet Interface Card for displaying data using RSView SE? Any suggestions? ### Assistant: Use Kepserver Enterprise as the data server. Thanks for the assistance. I will have to try the Kepserver software. Have you ever messaged data from a GE Fanuc to an Allen Bradley Processor? I haven't, but with Kepserver it is very easy. During the installation, make sure you either install the GE driver (or all the drivers). The Kepserver help is very good. You will create the Channel (which is the GE driver) first. Under the Channel, you will add the device and then create tags for that device. When you create the tags, there is a ? button that provides hints for address formats for the GE device. Also, there is a full section in help on this processor. You can use the OPC Quick Client to make sure the tags are good (hammer button on the tool bar). In the Quick Client, highlight the Channel.Device name you created. You will see all your tags on the rightside. Review quality. Right click and perform a Sync. Write. When testing is complete, add the OPC (Kepware Enterprise) to you SE/RSView32. n"}
{"text": "### Human: What's up with Pico Modules? This is not a request for technical help but rather a question about what's going on with the unavailability of a particular Pico module that I need. Way back on June 5, 2008 I ordered 2 1760-OW2 Pico expansion modules. Initially I was told by my local AB distributor that the delivery would be about 2 weeks, which was fine. When 2 weeks had gone by I was told it would be the middle of July. The end of July came and still no modules. Now it was going to be the middle of September. I just checked the online AB store to see what the delivery would be if I ordered today. Well it says Oct 10. Does anyone know or can find out what is going on here? I can understand delays but this is ridiculous. ### Assistant: Not certain, Rockwell has a parts and ordering service number you can call, I believe it's a menu option off the main support line. You also might want to find out who the Product Manager is, if ordering services or your distributor can not get this resolved for you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ADR Function Does anyone know if the adr function works with 1791ds safety I/O? ### Assistant: The 1791DS modules are configured within RSLogix5000, like controlnet or ethernet I/O. I do not think they need ADR as the guardlogix controller holds the configuration of the modules. These are the only modules that I know of that are not configured within RSNetworx. Right, they are completely controlled by the safety controller. ADR not needed. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Firmware V17 for L55 Does anyone know if V17 firmware will become available for the L55 processor? ### Assistant: Removal of ControlLogix L55 and FlexLogix L34 Controllers from RSLogix 5000 V17The last version of firmware for the L55 and L34 controllers was V16 –With V17, the firmware would no longer fit within the L34 and L55 controllers n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769 - L35CR cannot browse Backplane Did anybody tried to browe a compactlogix L35-CR flashed with V17 firmware ? I cannot browse the backplane. I downloaded the latest EDS for Local Bus ### Assistant: I tried to browse it from cnet port and it works fine with RSLinx v2.54.With RSLinx v2.53 I had installed the EDS file of Controller, Controlnet module and Local bus and, after a restart of RSLinx, it works fine also. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelbuilder 32 Russian Language I am having trouble copy and pasting translated text into Panelbuilder 32. It just brings up question marks in the editor. The text I have is in a word document and is translated into Russian. Has anyone had success pasting in a language translation that is not one of the five default(english, french, german, italian, spanish)? ### Assistant: I think you're going to have trouble with this one. It isn't a matter of the language that's selected (the 5 that you mention), but the font that you can use. I've played around with the external font stuff, and I've gotten chinese characters to show up on my PB32 screen. But no matter what I try, I cannot get Cyrillic, or even Greek characters to display, outside of a few (ß and µ). The problem seems to lie in the fact that PB32 can only recognize the 255 ASCII characters in the basic set, and not the expanded Unicode set. Now it could be that Rockwell has a Russian.otf or Cyrillic.otf file somewhere, for a price. Or perhaps you can Google one. If so, then you just have to:a) Create a Font folder in C:Program FilesAllen BradleyPanelbuilder32b) Copy the Cyrillic.otf file there. (You can look in C:Program FilesAllen Bradleypbex for other .otf files)c) Go to Application Settings | External Font and enable the font file.d) Create some text, and use the font size (8x12) instead of 8x12. The one in parenthesis is the External Font.e) Figure out the correct code for each desired letter - it almost certainly won't be the same unicode value that your Word doc uses.Old Windows trick: There is a program called Character Map that comes with Windows, but isn't usually installed by default. You can use it to look at a font file (but sadly, not the OTF files). Some characters have a keystroke - if you hold down the ALT key while typing the 4 digit code on the numeric keypad, then release the ALT, you get the weird character. My signature below is made of ALT+0245, ALT+0191, ALT+0245, ALT+172, Good luck. Allen is on the right track... The PanelView family predates Unicode, so it does not support it. You need a font encoded in DBCS (Double Byte Character Set). See AID19415 for some general information on external font support. See AID38874 for some information (and a font file example) for Russian. JHutch This can be done but it involves creating a new font with Font tool ,enabling external fonts and adding Russian as a language on the terminal you are using. When typing in the text box enable Russian on the terminal and use the on-screen keyboard feature of XP. It can be done but is quite involved. n"}
{"text": "### Human: CLX controllong Old SquareD 300,400 i/o??? I'm looking to replace old SquareD processeur, but keep i/o series 300 and 400.Do we have a CLX scanner for that??? ### Assistant: I don't think there is a backplane scanner that can do this directly. There's a company called Quest Technical Solutions that makes a series of interface modules that allow Logix systems to use EtherNet/IP to connect to several proprietary I/O networks including Modicon S908 RIO. Do your I/O chassis support the Square-D Series 8030 Type CRM931 RIO adapter for Modicon RIO protocol ? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error 1067 I am getting the Factory Talk Activation Service Error 1067. It states Could not start Factory Talk Activation Service service on the local computer. Error 1067: The process terminated unexpectedly. I have been sent the fix for Windows NT4 but I'm running Win XP Pro SP3, wrong. Does anyone know the fix? Rockwell's Polish tech support is a bit to be desired. ### Assistant: Bob, which technote were you sent? I'm curious because we didn't HAVE FactoryTalk activations back in the NT days... JHutch Current Rockwell Does not Support Windows XP SP3 for all products.Best thing to do would be to roll back to SP2. Add/Remove Programs and remove the Windows SP3. What type of activations are you using? (Old Master disk, New Factorytalk)OLD Master disk activation:If pulling from a network drive the shared drive must have full-permissions allowed to EVERYONE with full read and write access. New FactoryTalk Activation:Verify that the FactoryTalk Activation Server has been installed. Answer ID 46109http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46109 Make sure that there is only one tool installed either Client for only Node-locked or Server for both NL and Concurrent. Where are your activations residing?(Locally on the computer) Usually the Error 1067 about a service means that you don't have certain permissions to start some services.Verify that you are logged in as a local admin or that you're domain login has Admin Priviliges. You may need to check with your IT department about the permissions that are assigned to your login. n"}
{"text": "### Human: View SE - Windows User Profile Cache Issue Just wondering if anyone has experienced this. With a distributed SE (4.0 or 5.0) system - our clients are running under Terminal Services. ProblemPeriodically our users experience wireframing on a screen. Another client running from the same server on the same screen works fine. After deeper investigation RSView reported a 'tag' on the screen had an error that was logged in the event log. Ironically the tag did not any longer exist on the screen, it had been changed recently and the Clogix address no longer existed so the error was accurate regarding the tag; but the error should never have been displayed as the tag was not on the screen. What We Tried Rebooting the server does NOT fix the problem. Deleting the Cache and .cac files and rebooting do not fix the problem. What fixes the problemDeleting the user's profile in Windows 2003 server on the View server. Just curious if anyone else is experiencing any issues like this. Regards, eds ### Assistant: Instead of deleting the profiles, try deleting the temporary internet files via Internet Explorer. Internet Explorer --> Tools --> Internet Options... Delete the Temporary Internet files, as well check the box that says Delete all off-line content. Depending on how big your cached folders are this may take several minutes. In a distributed system, the screens are cached as a temporary file. I suspect what may be happening when you delete the user's profile is that their temporary internet files are also deleted. So when you create a new user, there are no more temp files, so everything magically works again. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTMetrics: Report Expert DataSet Can someone help direct me as to how the datasets are created for the default RDL files provided by ReportExpert (v1.1, CPR9)? I'm use to seeing a SELECT statement or a stored procedure. But here, they use a text string like: Event. I'm just trying to work backwards to gain a better understanding of how all of this work. ### Assistant: It uses a data processing extension (Microsoft speak) that is called a Metrics Data provider (Rockwell speak). If I understand it correctly, it is some .Net code that allows you to have one data source for all your reports rather than requiring the developer to create separate data sets behind each report. I found you can use SQL profiler to still see the queries that are executing on the database. With a little work, we were able to get them to run and see the raw report data. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1746-HSCE Hi, can someone have a easy way to resume how to set up a 1746-HSCE card. I do it for a while and don't remember how to do it. thanks for support ### Assistant: Try to look at KB doc ID 13774, here the link: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=13774 Also look at the examples on the User Manual of the module, it is quite easy to have a minimum configuration works. Basically at first scan you have to move the configuration words you prepared in N file to M file of the module. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769-L23.... anyone heard prices for these new ones yet? Well... anyone? ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 600 and 1000 ERROR 305 while saving app to PCMCIA memory card Getting a ERROR 305 while trying to save application to a PCMCIA memory card. This is happening with different panelviews both 600 and 1000 series. Have tried a different memory card and get the same error. File starts to download to card, gets about 2% complete the the 305 error file write access comes up. Shortly after that I get an ERROR 324 card status. ### Assistant: Is it a 2711-NM2x card?Have you performed an Erase/Format command from PV on that card? In that case the card became inoperable... Yes, it is that card. I have preformed the erase/format. It will still work on other panelviews. I am using this as a type of back up program. We make changes to panelviews on a regular basis and we back them all up on one card. I only have a problem with same same three panelviews everytime. The others save to the card with no problem. Are you sure it's not a 2711-NM1x card? The 1x and 2x use different technologies. The newer PV revisions no longer support the older NM1x cards. If it is a NM2x card and it only fails in this PV and works in others ... then the card slot on the PV has most likely been damage. I've seen similar behavior on PV's where a pin got bent out of place inside the card slot. JHutch Yeah thanks Hutch. I was starting to lean towards something wrong with the slots in those panelviews. I will go check them out myself. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Lost Activation Help.Just over a month ago one of our Dell notebook PCs died taking out it's hard drive too. It was known there were some licenses on the drive but it wasn't a major issue as we have other licenses on other PCs. The job of restoring the applications to a replacement notebook wasn't urgent and left to another person. As things transpire this other person resigned and left a short time ago leaving the job of getting things working on my plate. Great.Another of our engineers is developing a combined CompactLogix and RSView application and wanted to test it with one of our RSEmulate5000 programs (we have 2 licenses) - and hey, as you can guess, one of our lost licenses was for this program. The other license resides with a service engineer who happens to be abroad and he may get violent if we ask for it back!Although our current RSEmulate5000 is v16 I believe it's a master disk activation as it's an upgrade from v15. The activation certificate states N/A for Product Key and Activation Type, it also says To activate, insert Master Diskette - which is a bit of a clue.I cannot for the life of me find the master disk and to compound matters our TechConnect contract is currently invalid due to some mix up with the renewal. Isn't life great. That's why I'm posing questions on this forum!Anyone got any suggestions?Colleagues have offered their thoughts, like Find a tall building ... and Buy some more licenses you stingy old f...... Bstds. ### Assistant: While buying a suppot contract provides lots of benefits (not to mention pays my salary... ;) ), we don't require one for activation help. In this case, you'll most likely need a new master disk shipped out to you. Call into the Support Center and the activations group will get you straightened out. JHutch You are of course right JHutch.I called them this morning and sorted out my activation issues and they also confirmed we do have a support contract. Mind you where the support pack went I don't know, probably got lost in the post. Anyway, more is winging it's way to us.So it's generally a better day. I might have to pop over the pop over the pub at lunchtime for a pint. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel view 550 memory card will the memory card retain my program if I somehow srew up pva. or pba. in panel bulder 32. I guess what I want to know if I lose the program on my laptop can I reload from the card then upload to my pc? sorry all new to me........;) James ### Assistant: Yes it is possible; the card can be used as a disk drive in a PC with PCMCIA slot.Another way to get the .pva file from Panelview is to directly upload it from PC with Panelbuilder32. sweet...thanks fuzzy... thank you very much. I am having a problem seeing my panel now. IT... just brought back my laptop with and reinstalled RSLINX 2.51 classic and Panel veiw 32 loaded and all I want to do upload to PV on my laptop. My computer is not seeeing it . I'm rs232 right into the panel veiw 550 but nothing. The only differance after IT brought back this laptop is I have rslogic 5000 instead of 500. Hope I'm making any scence. James What is the catalog number of the PV? If it is a DH485 PV, it's possible that RSLinx is using a DF1 driver instead of the DH485 driver (1747-PIC). JHutch mmm.....good point......... I will take a look. Thanks guys and enjoy your weekend. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix modulo of negative number Is there a reason that when I take a modulo of a negative number (say, -6 % 7) that the result is incorrect (except when the modulo would return 0). -6 % 7 returns -6 when it should be 1. ### Assistant: The mod function is defined as the amount by which a number exceeds the largest integer multiple of the divisor that is not greater than that number. In this case, -6 lies between -42 and -6, so -42 is the greatest multiple LESS than -6; we divide -42/7 = -6. If you want the correct value you must take the absolute value. If it's any consolation this seems to be a contentious point in other programming languages/platforms. The 'correct' answer does not seem to be well defined. Taking MOD of the absolute value is not quite the right answer -- the MOD result should be 1, not 6, for the example given. -6 MOD 7 = 1 What you need to do for a negative number is add to it the largest number that the data type will hold that is 0 MOD n. This will give you a positive number to take the MOD function on without changing the MOD value. For an INT Logix (N: file in PLC/SLC), for a MOD 7, the largest INT MOD 7 = 0 is 32767 (32767/7 = 4681.000).For a DINT in Logix, the largest INT MOD 7 = 0 is 2147483646. Source = number to be taken MOD 7 (DINT)Result = resulting value between 0 and 6 (DINT)Temp = storage for input to MOD. (DINT) MOV Source TempLES Temp 0 ADD Temp 2147483646 TempMOD Temp 7 Result This will work for all but the most extreme integer values. (If the result of the ADD is still negative, add n (7) one more time and now you've covered the entire integer range.) Dale n"}
{"text": "### Human: Nested Add-On instructions Does anyone have an example of nested add-on instructions?(RsLogix 5000) When I call the main add-on instruction from the program do i pass and get returned all of the variables for the nested instructions as well? Thanks,Brian Mayfield ### Assistant: viewing the logic of an add on instruction in online rslogix5000 help says what you can see' all instructions execute dependant on where they are in the ladder. As it has always been Im guessing only if a part of the nested instruction modifies data used in a preceding instruction will there be lag time till logic values catch up. Brian, I don't have an example I can post at the moment (proprietary), but I can describe the behavior for you. A nested AOI uses a backing tag that is a Local Tag within the containing AOI. That backing tag acts, within the containing AOI, just like it would in a regular Routine. So the containing AOI can write to and read from the defined Parameters of the contained AOI, but not to its Local Tags. Let's say I have an AOI that takes a date and gives you a string (Wednesday, July 9, 2008) and within that AOI I need to take the date and get the day of the week. I could just drop the code to calculate the day of the week into it, but I'm going to use a DayOfWeek AOI. This AOI (let's say its logic is in Structured Text) has Input Parameters for Year, Month and Day (all DINTs, defining a Date), and one Output Parameter (DoW), the day of the week, a DINT whose values are 0 (Sun.) thru 6 (Sat.). This DayOfWeek AOI does some calculations internally, storing some intermediate results in its Local Tags: F := (Month + 9) MOD 12; G := Year - Wrk_F/10;DoW := (365*G + G/4 - G/100 + G/400 + (F*306+5)/10 + Day + 2) MOD 7; F and G are the Local Tags within the DayOfWeek AOI. These are NOT visible outside the DayOfWeek AOI, so the containing AOI (the STRING builder) can't see them. All it sees is a Local Tag (backing tag for DayOfWeek) that has: Year Input Parameter DINTMonth Input Parameter DINTDay Input Parameter DINTDoW Output Parameter DINT Let's call this backing tag GetDoW. Remember, this is a Local Tag in the containing STRING-building instruction, so NONE of it is visible outside the STRING builder (to your Main Routine). In the containing instruction (let's say it's Ladder with a bunch of ASCII concatenates and such), you would have code like: MOV YearNumber GetDoW.Year (moves the year, month and day into the inputs of DayOfWeek)MOV MonthNumber GetDoW.MonthMOV DayNumber GetDow.DayDayOfWeek GetDoW (instruction and the backing tag for it)MOV GetDoW.DoW DayOfWeekIJustGot (copies the result out to where I need it) YearNumber, MonthNumber, DayNumber and DayOfWeekIJustGot are tags (Parameters or Local Tags) in the STRING-builder. Again (for emphasis), GetDoW is a LOCAL tag in the STRING-builder, not visible outside it. Sorry this is wordy and not clear. But try it. Basically, the outermost code (Main Routine) sees the Parameters (but not the local tags) of the containing instruction, and the logic of the containing instruction (STRING-builder) sees the Parameters (but not the local tags) of the inner instruction (DayOfWeek). The outside world doesn't know (or care) about the innermost instruction -- it's a detail of how the outer instruction is implemented -- behind the border of its black box. This is the implementation hiding and data hiding concept of Object-Oriented Programming -- other stuff shouldn't care how I implement MY functionality. It just cares that I return the right STRING. Hope this helps! Dale Reed p.s.: that Day of the Week math works for any Gregorian date up to about Year 5.8 million... and it's WAY shorter than the example in the Vendor Samples... W8ABZ wrote: G := Year - Wrk_F/10;Dale, I appreciate the example, but I'm hung up on what Wrk_F is. Could you please clue me in?Thanks,Ron Thank you for the explanation Dale!The concept of passing parameters seems to be working, but I am interested in getting the specific example to work. I too am confused with this line: G := Year - Wrk_F/10; I tried to subsitute it with this: G := Year - F/10; But then when I used the following values: Year 2008Month 7Day 10 The above formula computtes to G:= 2007.6 and my DoW returned is a whopping 733541! If you could please clear up the one problem with the forumula then I'm sure I can get this working properly, and I will have a clear understanding of nesting the Add-on Instructions. Once again you have been extremely helpful..thank you Dale!! :-) Brian Mayfield On the side, is there a standard day of week AOI that you are referencing? A customer of mine, had an issue where they wanted to calculate the date of a certain number (x) days out Where X was >1 and < 1000. I had them implement the dooms day algorithm because I couldn't find much otherwise. It worked but it would have been nice to have an AOI to give them. Brian, Sorry, the Wrk_F should have just been F. (I have a naming convention where all my internal working registers are named with Wrk_xxx, to differentiate from Commands -- Cmd_xxx --, Status -- Sts_xxx -- etc.) I missed one when I copied the code over. I also neglected the (xxxxxx) MOD 7; for the last line, which is why you got the big number. The correct code is this, where F, G, Year, Month, Day and DayOfWeek are all DINTs: F := (Month + 9) MOD 12; G := Year - F/10;DayOfWeek := (365*G + G/4 - G/100 + G/400 + (F*306 + 5)/10 + Day + 2) MOD 7; 733541 is the Gregorian Day Number -- taking the remainder after dividing by 7 gives the day of the week: in this case, 4 (Thursday). The nice thing about the above method: no REAL math at all. It's ALL integer math and really fast. Warning to PLC-5 programmers: PLC-5 integer division ROUNDS, while CLx integer division TRUNCATES. The truncating behavior is REQUIRED. Using 32-bit (DINT) integers give you a range of about +/- 5.8 million years. Should be enough. Sorry for the bugs!Dale, W8ABZ Thanks for the clarification, Dale. My apologies for the rabbit trail, Brian. Ron ..And it works beautifully, as does the nested Add-on!!!You da man Dale, thanks very much!! Brian Ozzy and all, If you've downloaded RSLogix 5000 V17, look in the examples (vendor examples, RA examples, etc.) for the Add-On Instructions example ACD. You'll find a whole set of date/time instructions for Logix. Looks like they tried to make up for the lack of built-in Date/Time data types. There are instructions that look a lot like the usual ADD, SUB, GEQ, EQU, LEQ, etc., but they're call T_ADD, T_SUB, T_GEQ, etc., and some other intersting ones there, including day of the week, valid date checking, date/time to string, and even sunrise/sunset calcs!!! Some done in ladder, some done in ST. Dale n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1100 FRN 8 I do not see any release notes on this anybody have an idea what the change was for? ### Assistant: The following minor anomalies were addressed in FRN 8 for the ML1100 controllers: Memory clear issue could be issued when triggering multiple Modbus MSG's with channel 0 configured for 38.4kbaud and a 1 millisecond STI. DF1 replies may not get transmitted following an AWT or AWA ASCII write when channel 0 is configured for DF1 Full-Duplex. SMTP (email) MSG instruction could lock-up if the email server goes offline and then comes back online, requiring a power cycle to recover. SCP instruction would not allow the use of floating point elements and indirect addressing. Where can I find this information? http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=54728 JHutch Thanks for the Info. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communicate Modbus to ControlLogix5000 Communicate Modbus to ControlLogix5000?? Changed title to reflect content - JHutch ### Assistant: It is possible to use the serial port of a Logix Controller as a Master or Slave on ModbusTo implement this refer to the following Application Solution documents; http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ap/cig-ap129_-en-p.pdf The example applications can be found on the RSLogix 5000 install CD. In RSLogix 5000, go to 'Help' and 'Vendor Sample Projects'. Also you have the possibility to use an Encompass module from Prosoft to do this. http://www.psft.com/prosoft/products/for_rockwell_automation/platform/controllogix/mvi56_mcm Linkified for convenience - JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: RN3 communicating with SLC 5/03 Somebody know why the 2711P-RN3 RS485 communication protocol do not work with SLC503 Changed title to reflect content - JHutch ### Assistant: Should work... try to follow the settings explaned here: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=39290 n"}
{"text": "### Human: GuardLogix PLC Does the GuardLogix PLC support regular I/O modules in the local chassis and can the routines in the Safety Task control this I/O or will the local module outputs have to be controlled from the standard tasks/routines? ### Assistant: The safety task can only handle safety tags. Since the standard IO is not a safety tag, it can only be controlled within the standard task. The only way is to handle the code in the safety task is:- Alias a standard input to a safety tag, that can be used in the safety task.- In the normal task you can than assign a safety tag (made in the safety task) to a normal tag (or output). Success,C Actually, after doing some experimenting and finding all the documentation I needed, you have to map the tags rather than alias them. Since the integrity of the signal on regular I/O is always suspect where safety is concerned, the only way to get to a safety task is to map the tags. No problems....just trying to figure out the eccentricities of the Guardlogix stuff. Thanks for the reply. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Read array in RSView 4.0 In my RSView application I want to display an element value from an array variable located in the PLC. I use a NumericDisplay to display the value.To acces the correct array element, I would like to use an other variable in the PLC as the indexer.The index variable is given a value from a NumericInputCurserPoint located in my RSView application. This seems not to be possible at all! I can't get a value from the array element, even if the indexer variable does have the correct index value. The NumericDisplay only displays *** when I click on test Display and give the indexer variable a value from the NumericInputCurserPoint. This code I use to display the array value in the NumericDisplay's Connections/Value/Exprn{[PLC]Oven[].PV_Z1} Between the [] I want to add the index variable, which is:{[PLC]ON} I did that with the Expression editor window and got:{[PLC]Oven[[PLC]ON].PV_Z1} No syntax error. I set the NumericInputCurserPoint so it writes a value to {[PLC]ON} in the Connections/Value.No result when I test the display. I have connect to the PLC, so it can't be that. If I use a number as indexer instead of a variable:{[PLC]Oven[2].PV_Z1} I got just what I'm looking for. Can someone help me? ### Assistant: The PLC addresses that you link to must be hard-coded addresses. There's no way that I know of to build an address (like you are trying to do), and then request a read from that build. When I've needed to do things like this using stupider applications, I simply pass the pointer value (from the selector on the HMI) to the PLC, and let the PLC return the indirected value in a tag separate from the array. What you're trying to do is technically a valid syntax, but the numeric display object does not understand how to parse that. I don't know your application but there are ways to accomplish what you want to do. 1. If you have only a few numeric displays, you can use a multistate display intead of a numeric. state 0: {[PLC]Oven[0].PV_Z1} state 1: {[PLC]Oven[1].PV_Z1} state 2: {[PLC]Oven[2].PV_Z1}and use {[PLC]ON} as the state selector. 2. otherwise, most people use parameter files or tag parameters to do what you want to do.. if your screen is filled with numeric entries that need to change based on the indexer variable, map them like this: {[PLC]Oven[#1].PV_Z1} and then when the indexer variable changes, call or reload the display using the /T parameter. Display screen /T{[PLC]ON} and the value of the first tag after /T will substitute for all the #1s on your screen. The parameter files solution worked fine.I use #1 as the indexer which change between 1 - 6 ane give me just what I want. I'm also interested what value #1 have. Is it possible to display #1's value in a numeric display/multistate display? Yes, it is.You simply need to use #1 instead of a Tag Name either in a Numeric or a Multistate display n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 40 IN MULTI-DRIVE MODE ON CNET. How many connections does master drive takes in multi-drive mode on controlnet?(Considering 1 drive as master and 4 drives as slaves). ### Assistant: The I/O consumes only one connection between the controller and drive(s) regardless of whether the adapter is in Single or Multi-Drive mode. so does this mean that i can put 5 X 99 drives on cnet?but wouldnt it affect n/w bw?wot about n/w scheduling then? Each drive has its own connection on the Controlnet network...and has to be scheduled. For drives, adjust your network update time to around 80ms as keeping it at the default 5ms is way too fast to gather data from drives...and you WILL run out of bandwidth. I typically keep drives on controlnet to less than 25 although the spec says you can have up to 99 nodes. It all goes back to the NUT (network update Time). Also, under Network>Properties in RSNetworx for ControlNet, adjust the network size to maybe 5 higher than your highest node number. This keeps the keeper from having to scan to all 99 nodes eventhough there aren't that many. Since the Controlnet is daisy-chained, each drive will have to be scheduled. If the slave drives receive a scaled analog signal from the master drive then Controlnet isn't an issue, just schedule the master drive. I find it MUCH easier for each drive to have a scheduled connection and do the scaling in the PLC rather than in the drive. n"}
{"text": "### Human: locked out of factorytalk, rsview studio Made an resview application. Saved and quit the application. Tried to start another and was locked out of factorytalk administration console, user can't be authenticated. Reinstalled factorytalk server since the license key for rsview studio wasn't there. Got that up and running but still unable to login using factorytalk username/password. Can't login with any user to reset passwords. Called tech support was told to refer to knowledge base 54692 and that they couldn't help us. Have a flight booked home need to help client asap. ### Assistant: AID 54692 will fix your problem. Depending on just what part of the FactoryTalk Security layer got corrupted, it may be the only fix. The other thing that MAY work is to get a password reset for your FT login. I'm assuming that the original technician ascertained that a reset will not work, but you can always call back in to request one be tried anyway. Because it is getting around the security of your system, it does requires a signed form be faxed in (signed by someone with authority to grant us access) before we can reset the FactoryTalk layer. The engineer you talk with will be able to send/point you to the proper forms. But, I will say again, 54692 WILL fix your problem. It's a club instead of a surgical knife, but it will fix the problem with the FactoryTalk security layer on your computer. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1746-NI16I How to convert to NI16I from NI8 Module.I have a mixture of 2-Wire and 4-Wire Transmitters. Do I need to connect all of the Analog Common together ? ### Assistant: Chech the connections on page 3-11 of the user manual. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1746-um001_-en-p.pdf 2 wire devices are to be connected as shown there; the (+) output of the 4 wire devices goes to the module input, and the (-) output goes to the Analog common.All the common wires of 4 wire devices are connected together; also you have to connect all the unused channel at Analog Com. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Modbus MSG between two (or more) ML1100s - Is this cabling correct? I have found plenty of info on programming MSG instructions to allow ML1100s to communicate via MODBUS. What I haven't found are details on how the cabling works. I think the main issue is that the MODBUS docs and ML1100 docs use a little bit different naming for pins, and I need someone to clarify if I have this right or not. Please take a look at the attached doc, and let me know what you think. I did grab the picture of the ML1100 pin out from Rockwell Automation Answer ID 38808, so my thanks to that author for putting that together. Thanks,Richard ### Assistant: Yes, that's exactly right. But why use Modbus RTU between Allen-Bradley controllers? You could use DF1 Full Duplex (with only two ML1100s connected over RS-232) or DF1 Half Duplex (over RS-485 like you have described) and have the advantage of full access to the controller's data tables and native addressing. I am using two ML1100s to get my feet wet with MODBUS. Once I am sure the MSG works, I will move on to the MODBUS interfaces of an Altivar VFD, and a Hach SC1000. Thanks. That's a good way to do it ! When I'm experimenting with Modbus, my tools include the WinTech Software Modbus simulator suite. You can connect the MicroLogix 1100 to your PC's RS232 port and send Modbus messages to the ModSim simulator, which makes it very easy to change the emulated data files and node numbers. Invest in the shareware license for Modsim; it's too much juggling to just use the 3-minute runtime of the evaluation version. I have implemented the example code I found in the know base, and wired the ML1100s as above. But I have not had any luck getting the MSG to fire correctly (Times out in local processor). The cabling set up is two 1763-NC01s, with about 6 feet of Belden 3084A between them. I put a 150 ohm resistor between A and B. I rang out the cable through the round Mini DIN pins to make sure I was connected. I have checked and rechecked the connections. Is there a process I can use to figure out what is wrong with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Maybe try using DF1 through the connection to verify that the cables/connection is ok. If that works, then you know its something about the Modbus configuration. If DF1 won't work either, you know it's hardware (most likely cabling). JHutch I finally got back to this. I use the cables for DF1, as the 1763-NC01 cable does not have connections for TXD and RXD. For example, there is no connection between the NC01 terminal block and PIN 4 on the round Mini-DIN. I have rung out the cables end to end (or pin to pin of the Mini-DIN), so I am confident the cabling is exactly as the diagram I first posted. I have tried a bunch of different baud rates, parity settings, stop bits, data files, read types, etc. and can't get it to fail any differently. I came up with these questions:1. I found several pubs that say the ML1100 can communicate RS-485 using a 1763-NC01 cable and it does not need an AIC+. Has anyone tried this?2. Is there any connection needed besides the ones listed on the diagram in my first post (besides the 150k ohm resistor between A & B, on both ends). For example, does the CHS GND on the NC01 need a 0V DC connection?3. Is there a minumum cable length between the Master and Slave?4. Are there any diagnostic tools I could look at? Voltage levels on the cable? The only clues I have: The MSG triggers, the COMM 0 light flashes on the Modbus Master, the COMM 0 light does not flash on the Slave, and the Message Times Out in Local Processor. I appreciate all help. My first sentence should be I cannot use the cable for DF1... I'll read the post first before submitting next time. JHutch's advice was correct in getting me to try DF1 first: On one of the ML1100s, the comm port was not working. Using the user display, I set the comms back to default. Then I tried to auto configure the DF1 driver in Linx using the 1761-CBL-PM03 cable. That would not work. I tried a different ML1100, and the Modbus comms work great. Thanks, JHutch! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Verify panelview program I want to verify my RSView ME program and I want to use only my Controllogix processor and Ethernet ENBT in the rack with no i/o modules is this possible? ### Assistant: Yes, it is possible. RSView ME application points to the tags inside the controller, therefore you do not need all the hardware configured in RS5k program to be connected. n"}
{"text": "### Human: DWG file for 1769-IF8 For some reason there is not a 2-D DWG file available for the 1769-IF8 analog module in ECADWorks. There are wiring diagrams but not 2-D. Does anyone know if there is another module with similar dimensions. I've checked several others but none match. ### Assistant: All 1769- modules have the same external dimensions (except the 32 pts.) You should use for example 1769-IF4 drawings... Well I must be missing something then. The 1769-IF8 modules are not the same width. The 1769-IF4 modules are 35mm wide while the 1769-IF8 are 52.5mm wide. Right. So the only modules with the same dimensions are 1769-IQ32 and 1769-OB32, but seems that also for these are not the drawings... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Locating the connection between an input and bit. Hopefully I can explain this clear enough. I was away from PLC's a while and now I've forgotten some things. I have a photo eye operating an input (I:5/16 3012PE1 Lane Full) that should stop a conveyor and disable Lane Availability from my sorter. The input in the program is working according to Logix5, but there is a bit (B27:30 3012PE1 Lane Full) that operates the rung for Lane Availability which sends an output (O:143/14) to a third party system to enable/disable diverting to this lane. B27/30 never goes false and the lane is always available and I can't figure out where the connection is between I:5/16 and B27/30. I haven't seen a Latch, Unlatch or anything that would show me where the bit would be triggered from. I have multiple lanes that are programmed identical except for the addresses and the others work fine. I've tracked back looking at Copy's, MOV's and Fill's but keep running into deadends and roadblocks. I was told this was working a couple months ago and my backups date back 5 years with no differences when I compare them. I'm stuck... ### Assistant: If you want to send me the program, I might give it a quick check... may be 4 eyes are better than 2 ! Let me know where to send it. Thanks! I sent you a message with the infos. So, here the results of my research in the program. LAD 6 RUNG 0 - I004 to I007 are copied to B26:0 to B26:3 (so I005/16 is copied to B26/30)LAD 6 RUNG 3 - every bit starting from B26/0 are connected to a timer using an INDEX word N25:0 (N25:0 contains the number of bit and also the number of timer to use and is created through a For Next cycle in rung 2) so for example B26/0 is connected to the T26:0, B26/30 is connected to T26:30 and so on. This seems to be a filter time to clear the Input signalsLAD 6 RUNG 4 - every DONE bit of the filter timers are connected to B27 bit, always using an Index in N25:0 so that T26:30/DN is connected to B27/30 and the play is done ! I:005/16 --> B26/30 --> T26:30/DN --> B27/30 Using Cross Reference is difficult to find because the programmer has used an Indexed cycle instead of a rung by rung copy and you cannot find the direct address there. The index is a good way to compact the program but usually it become more difficult to debug. Another note: LAD 6 rung 3 and 4 are used to Latch B27 bits when B26 bits are off (so when I005 bits are off)LAD 6 rung 5 and 6 are used to Unlatch B27 bits when B26 bits are on (so when I005 bits are on) So, if you have I:005/16 on, you unlatch B27/30 after a while. I really appreciate the help. I kept going back to Ladder 6 knowing it was linked to the Copy but couldn't remember how it worked. I think I found where the error was. T6 TON/DN that operated B27 (L) was also in Ladder 2 as T6:30 shutdown timer and I think it was confused. The other Rungs were AFI'd (probably because it didn't work) so I deleted them. It appears to be OK now. Once again thanks for the info! I gotta go back to school. :mansad: I'm glad that you fixed it ! All we need to go back to school sometimes....:smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: axis feedback status Hi guys, When giving an MAG (motion axis gear) instruction, does anyone know if there is a (timing) difference between:Axis.gearingstatus and the MAG.IP status bit? also, when giving an MAM instuction (motion axis move), is there a (timing) difference between:Axis.MoveStatus and the MAM.IP status bit? cheers,C ### Assistant: From my testing, doing a trend on these status bits, there is no time delay that I can see between the motion control bit and the status bit. There are usually slight timing differences between the reporting of the control bits of the instruction and the status attributes. This is typically the result of two entities. The first, communications delays between the controller and the drive, as the drive is reporting its status back to the controller (usually several CUR's), and secondly, the time when the motion planner outputs its last command (.ip), with respect to when the drive processes that command and completes its function (returns status of 0). Thus using the control bits, can sometimes get you in trouble if your object is fast instructional transitions. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Components over ethernet Is it possible to use a Panelview Component as an Ethernet TCP/IP server to communicate to a custom Ethernet device ? ie with a User Configurable Driver as Kepware for FactoryTalk View ME/SE... ### Assistant: Well, the PVc *can* use Kepware drivers ... whether or not you'll be able to get the UCON driver to work with you particular device? Maybe. ;) JHutch Thanks JHutch. But is there a doc that explain how to use kepware drivers on PVc? I can only find a list of drivers to select from a pull-down menu, but the UCON driver isn't there! :smileysurprised: Heh, I didn't even think to check that the UCON driver was in the PVc. That'll teach me. Well, if it isn't there, you can't use it. Unlike the PV+, you can't download different kepware drivers with the a firmware update. Which means you aren't going to be able to do what you want. Sorry. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 - Input Field Issue I'm having an intermittent issue with an RSView32 project. I have a screen with a few input fields. One is a string field, the rest are numeric. Right below the input fields, I've got displays pointing to the same tags as the input fields (all are memory tags). This way, I can tell that the data inputs take. Every once in a while, the project is getting to where it won't take inputs from these fields any more. If I restart the project it fixes it sometimes, but not always. I can type something into a field and hit Enter. Normally, this will write the value into the tag. The problem I'm running into is that it is doing nothing. I can issue a downloadall command using a button on the screen, and it won't update the data values either. I can then open a command line window and use the set command. This will force the tag to change. My display tags change to what was forced with the set command. However, the input fields don't change. I'm out of ideas... I'm hoping someone else will have one. Thanks. Danny ### Assistant: Try to check this technote...seems your case. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46770 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Device Net Calculate total drop length I don’t see a network forum area so I will start here. We brought in a guy to do a system overview of a machine that we have been having some Devicnet problems on. He wanted use to confirm the drop line length total. I have a test device (1788-MCHKR) that looks like it could get me close to what I wish to find. Other wise how would a person even come close to determining this information on a machine that has TWO networks with 36 nodes on ONE and 42 nodes on the other. The network has a combination of custom made and preassembled cables. Some drops also have series devices off on tap. Device net is a new beast to use here so any help would be a learning experience to use. ### Assistant: I think JHutch will end up moving this to the HMI/Comms, for the communication's side, but this is just as valid as a place as any. As for DNet, you said you are having some problems can you describe those? Further as for calculating the entire length of dnet wire being used is often harder after implementation then before. It is usually one of those things that it's best to calculate out as part of the engineering of the system. However checkers such as the 1788-MSHKR and similiar products from other companies can get you close. So in effect you already have the right idea. No, he won't. :) Comms issues don't have their own board. Whatever device you are using with the comms is where the topic would fall. In this case, he's using the DeviceNet cabling with some processors, so this is the right spot. JHutch I have the 1788-MCHKR but the manual is at best not very good on set up for test. Looks like it will give me the total length then I need to subtract a known either the trunk or drops to get the other. I know that I need to have the network powered off but do I need to disconnect all devices too. I tried with devices connected and test showed there were shorts on the line. We have had many BUSS OFF DETECTES and Some Faulted Communications. I have corrected many of them by switching our SMC valve banks to always communicate from the default of Stop Communication if Solenoid power is lost. The reason for this post was the OEM of the machine brought in a consultant who did a system overview and ask us if the total drop length is over 39 meters and if it was we would need to slow our baud rate to 250 from 500 referencing the Device Net installation guide. He also suggested and we already have changed our RPI to 10msec from 5msec because the size of the data excided one packet forcing 2 packets every 5msec. Meaning the backplane was being pounded every 2.5msec. Another thing we will be doing after determining what our total drop length is and whatever baud rate is to switch all of out devices from auto baud to the network rate. We have over 40 device on each network so on power up we have a 50/50 chance of hitting over the limit of 60 faults in the first second triggering a buss off detect. The last thing we did was looked at all of our cards that potentially could be affected by the ATMEL Chip anomaly and found that 6 of the 11 possible cards do require warranty exchange. 2 of our 3 processors both our Ethernet cards and 1 of our 2 DNB cards. Another thing he pointed out to us is that we exceeded our unconnected buffers on our processor. Each processor has only 10 unconnected buffers for communication by default. He showed us how to change that from 10 to 40 the max. Total unconnected buffers in our system where 32 and most where communicating to just the first processor. After this fix and after the ENBT Cards are replaced we hope to have a more reliable Ethernet Network too. I have also experienced some of these issues with DeviceNet. One thing I did find is the baud rate issue. I have a network with only 3 devices on it and I could not get it to communicate until I dropped all devices to 250 baud. Network length maybe 20 meters. DeviceNet is not very user friendly. Especially if you have wiring issues. I have seen it said that 99% of all Device Net Problems are Media. With a Baud of 250 do you see a difference in response in the machine? As long as the media is installed in accordance with the manual the media shouldn't be the problem. I've heard that cabling makes a diffrence but they can't tell me why the flat bus cable works. The flat bus cable used with the armor blocks is non shielded and non twisted pair. All I can recommend is that the terminating resistor is placed at the extents of the network and all field installed terminations are checked for crossed wires between the blue and white wires. If you can find the longest length of cable from one end of the network to the other the resistor should be at these ends. I had an application that communicated but did it intermittently and one connector had the shield wire touching one of the communication wires. About the backplane bandwidth, I've helped with a 17 slot application with two L55 processors seven M02AE, two M08SE cards, two CNB, and two I/O cards in the same rack. Each PLC was controlling 16 axis; some real, some produced and consumed and some virtual. Each PLC was updating the axis information at 16ms. I really don't think that polling a devicenet card at 2.5ms is excessive for the rack. maybe for the Devicenet card, but not the rack. If there are a lot of communications by the processor you may want to examine them with the logix 5000 task monitor. You can use this utility to refine the overhead timeslice and enbt communications load. You can also see technote ID 19993 about unconnected buffers. Linkified for convenience - JHutch Bus Off:Simply is there is chatter on the line.Sources: Resistors are not in place or placed in correct location, you should get 60 ohms accross can high and low. Not enough current from power supply, can be intermittent if devices are being powered on the same line, one too many devices kicking on or in use might pull down the current. Take a voltage test, you should be around 24 volts, usually a bit lower like 23.9 or so, but if it gets dragged down to 23 volts this could be true. Line length is too great for baud rate, lower baud rate, can be intermittent. Baud Rates are not all set the same in all devices, or devices are not set to autobaud, rarely commented on as intermittent, will always show up in a few minutes. The scanner does not have a baud rate set in it. Never intermittent Physical Damage of Media of white or blue lines (can high or low) but not power (you get no tx then), can be tracked down a couple different ways, your checker can tell you if you have this problem, and it wouldn't be intermittent. Line noise, the biggest pain to troubleshoot, however, the two resistors in place should take most. The easiest method to see it is with an oscilliscope, and past that if you have a bunch, it's usually around something causing mag fields, like drives. Faulty Device, a device that is not maintain baud rate or just throwing out junk, usually this device constantly shows up with other errors that single it out. One more additional check: Measure resistance of a node, disconnected from the network, from +24vdc terminal to blue, +24vdc to white, common to blue, and common to white. All of these impedances should be greater than one meg ohm for any devicenet node. If not it is an indication of a failing CAN chip on the node. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ENet Std PanelView to 1769-L35E comms Hi EveryoneI have connected a PanelView 600 to a CompactLogix L35E. Using PanelBuilder32 for PV programming. In RSLinks I can see both items though the RS232 link and if I connect a hub/switch I see both through the Ethernet. I can communicate with both, without problems, but they are not communicating with each other. On boot up an initial write fail error occurs and then all the write and read errors come through. IPs are set at 10.10.0.1 (controller's Ethernet port) & 10.10.0.2 (panelview) with subnet 255.255.0.0 The PV teminal's settings are: Comms setup: node name I have changed from the controller's name to Ethernet port name to the same as on the tags tab (ENT) and even an unique name. Node Address 10.10.0.1 Path 1 0 node type controllogix5000 Ethernet Config: DHCP/BootP Enable unchecked IP Address 10.10.0.2 Subnet Mask 255.255.0.0 Does anyone know where I'm going wrong? ### Assistant: Try to use different IP addresses...look at this technote, if it is the case. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=20799 Also verify all data table addresses in the panelview application exist in the processor program. May be useful to create a simple applications with only a numeric display pointing to only a tag in the controller, to avoid a mix of comms errors. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Anolog Output card on RIO Hi all, I want to communicate one analog output card with 4 channels which is located in a remote rack communicating with SLC 5/04. I need some information on the card configuration and how to send data to the analog out put card. Do we need to write a configuration word for that card to enable the channels ? Thanks. ### Assistant: RK, I'm guessing that you're output card is a 1746-NO4I or NO4V, right? Neither card has a configuration word. There are only the 4 output words. The output ranges are the same whether local or remote I/O. That being said, you'll probably want to block transfer the data out to the output card. There are application examples in Chapter 8 of the 1747-ASB user manual that should prove helpful. Sorry, but I don't have the link for the online manual. Ron Here's the link http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1747-um006_-en-p.pdf Also check to this link, appendix D if you have older processor, that doesn't support BT instructions http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1747-um013_-en-p.pdf This is the link for the Analog Card user manual http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1746-um005_-en-p.pdf :smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: using OPC reading huge array I try to read an array with 10.000 real values from an L63 processor.RSLinx limits me to 121 items at a time (I am using the ethernet driver), so it takes ages reading this array:smileymad:.I took a look at the 'noopt' modifier, but no clear results...Anyone has a good idea, or can give more details about the 'noopt' modifier? p.s. Kepware OPC allows it to be read it one block, why not in RSLinx? ### Assistant: The 'noopt' (or No Optimization) item modifier - is really for use in older PLCs and networks (PLC5, SLC; DH+ etc). Basically it tells RSLinx Classic not to use it's own optimization algorithms, and let the client do the optimization. However the data requested by the client must fit into a single communication packet (the size of which depends on the network type in use). For PAC (Programmable Automation Controllers) such as the Logix family the 'noopt' modified is not going to help, because the Ethernet protocol in use is CIP and the packet sizes are defined for transport of data across the CLX backplane. For your example you are using 'real' types as you state the packet limit when in an array is 121 items. Kepware is taking your request as something like MyRealArray[0],L10000 - it is then internally breaking down the array to fit into the CIP packet sizes - then reassembling the array before delivery to the OPC client as a single item. RSLinx enforces the packet limit when requesting an array as a single item - hence MyRealArray,L10000 is not going to be accepted. But MyRealArray[0],L121 MyRealArray[121],L121 etc will be. However you can also just request the items as individual items as MyRealArray[0] MyRealArray[1] etc and RSLinx will optimize these individual requests into the least number of packets on the network ie 83. The big advantage here of using RSLinx (apart from the best optimisazation algorithm) is that the data will come in as per packet and not in one hit as with the Kepware example. I calculate that the whole array should be read in approximatly 1.6 seconds (depending on network config and controller loading). n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kep Server I have a key issue for kepserver. Can it use the master key? or not. Look forward to your reply. ### Assistant: Which Kepserver? Only Kepserver Enterprise for ME or SE is Rockwells. KepServerEnterprise works with the activation of ViewME - (master disk is still supported ) With ViewSE you need to purchase a separate licence. Check this technote for other useful notes. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=23385 n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC-5. Remotely changing the mode. Is there a possibility to change the mode of PLC-5 proccessor except of case RSLogix5 using? I use the RSEmulate5 software and sometimes it place PLC (emulated) to Program mode when RSEmulate5 starts up. Is there some method of managing PLC-5 mode, for exapmple, through PLC data files or using CIP-messages? Ilya Zykov ### Assistant: No way to do this... You only have the status of the key switch in the status file http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=48083 Also you cannot use a CIP generic message.... :smileysad: Thank you, fuzzy!Unfurtunatelly it looks like you right.I have found how to change mode of proccessor through DF1, but only for SLC500 and Micrologix.http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1770-rm516_-en-p.pdf Ilya, using your indications about what you found in DF1 commands manual, I found a supplement that includes that commands also for PLC-5 ! http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=27504 Check for it at page 6 of the attached .pdf file named PLC5 and SLC504 Communication driver (Set Processor Mode). Might be a solution...:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thank you, fuzzy! Cool document! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communicating Compactlogix L32E trough 1785-KE with an existing DH+ PLC5 network We are tying to conect a new 1769-L32E compactlogix processor to and PLC5 DH+ network trough a 1785-KE conected to the compactlogix serial port, we can access the DH+ trough RSlink using the KE, but wen connecta the compactlogix using MSG introction we are no sure about the Path for the CIP MSG. Can anyone help us? ### Assistant: Duplicated post... here the solved one ! :smileywink: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Logix&message.id=51#M51 edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1771-OEM1 Replacement Is there any functional replacement for 1771-OEM1 which is obsoleted? ### Assistant: There is no direct replacement. :smileysad: Navigate the link: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=54190 n"}
{"text": "### Human: how to calbrate 1771-IFE Rec C What is the procedure for calibrating a 1771-IFE RevC analog input module? I have the book on the A and B modules which explains it but the C book says nothing other than what registers are used.I need details... ### Assistant: Here some useful links: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=54580 http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=54589 http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=43370 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rockwell Automation Integrated Architecture Podcast Listen to the monthly Integrated Architecture Podcast to learn about new products and industry trends.Subscribe to the podcast via iTunes by searching Rockwell Automation or use any RSS-reader or podcatcher with the following url:http://www.rockwellautomation.com/solutions/integratedarchitecture/rss/podcast.xml ### Assistant: The existing episodes of the podcast include so far . . . Episode 1 - EtherNet/IP with Joe Lee and Eric OlundEpisode 2 - Dynamix Vibration Monitoring with Mike Burrows and Scott JohnsonEpisode 3 - L23 Controller with Axel Rodrigeuz Coming Soon . . .Episode 4 - Process with Scott Anthony Useful link ! Thanks Cappy.:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Set Multicast TTL to a different value on a 1756-EWEB module The EWEB tech manual has not been updated since the latest firmware release. One of the new features is the ability to set the Multicast TTL to a different value. How would that be done programmatically? Via CIP message? What would the configuration of such a message be? ### Assistant: Have a look to the document attched to this technote: it covers your request. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=48879 :smileysurprised: n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-HSC on Remote Ethernet . Is this compatible? I want to know whether a 1756-HSC can be used on a remote Chassis other than ControlNet. The 1756-HSC High Speed Counter user manual says that when using the module on a remote chassis, the network must be ControlNET. Does that mean that I cannot install a 1756-HSC module on a remote Ethernet or a Devicenet Network? Please confirm this. However in RSLogix 5000 Ver 16 I am able to configure a 1756-HSC module under a remote 1756-ENBT. Why is this allowed? ### Assistant: 1756-HSC User Manual that I can find was written back in 2000. Pretty outdated... The HSC is updating faster then Dnet in some cases, so dnet is a bad choice. Enet is fast enough and so is Cnet. Enet however can have packets that drop... if you have a clean network, enet should work alright, but cnet is what is perfered and recommended. Yes, this is supported. :smileyhappy: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=48004 n"}
{"text": "### Human: WMF File Scrolling and Zoom Capabilities I have WMF format drawings imported to RSViewME and PanelView Plus but the images are not useful unless I can Zoom and Scroll. Can this be accomplished or will I have to dissect the images into smaller sections? ### Assistant: From the ViewME User Manual:Windows metafiles (.wmf) and AutoCAD® (.dxf) files are converted to drawing objects (such as lines, ellipses, and polygons) when you import them. You can edit the drawing objects the same way you edit drawing objects that you create in FactoryTalk View.Depending on the complexity of the metafile or AutoCAD file, the converted image could consist of 500 or more drawing objects. This would lead to long display load times. In this case, it would be better to covert the .wmf or .dxf file to a bitmap, and then display the bitmap in an image object.After imported, the file is converted to drawing objects and grouped, and then the grouped object is placed in the graphic display. So,you don't need to dissect your file (it is enough to ungroup the imported object); after that you can use Animation to change the dimensions or the position of the object dynamically as you need,linking the object attributes to a tag or an expression. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-Eweb Module I have tested sending an email from the EWEB module without any problems (with a bit of help from our IT dept.). I would like to know how to embed values from controller tags into the text of the email. I don't want to have to create a Web page, since that is pretty foreign to me. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Dlogger ### Assistant: Check at page 71 of the -EWEB User Manual: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/enet-um527_-en-p.pdf Follow this example and manipulate the Email text string using String Instructions to embed your values inside email body. In this manual starting at page 26 you may find some indications.http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/pm/1756-pm013_-en-p.pdf Fuzzy Logic, Thanks for the links to the manuals. I already had the EWEB manual, but the other manual that shows how to configure ASCII strings in L5K controllers will be real helpful. Thanks, Dlogger n"}
{"text": "### Human: What software do I need What software do I need to program a PanelView 300 Key to a MicroLogix 1200 and a DF1 link from a LapTop Computer, and where can I get from. ### Assistant: Well, for Panelview Standard you need Panelbuilder32 (cat. nr. 2711-ND3) and for Micrologix1200 RSLogix500 Starter (9324-RL0100ENE); you may realize the DF1 connection to your laptop using RSlinx Classic, that is already inside the RSlogix disc (Lite version is enough for your needs). You have to buy your licences to a local distributor or you can order it from a Rockwell Automation sales office.To search an office near to you, follow the link:http://www.rockwellautomation.com/locations/ n"}
{"text": "### Human: CPR9 Activation for CPR-7 Installations ?? I have got an installation of RSLinx enterprise of CPR-7. While I received the activations handed over by the System Integrator, it is in CPR-9 FTA enabled. System is installed and running but can I use this CPR-9 FT Activation for my CPR-7 installations when they are required later? ### Assistant: Have a look here:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=52551 In short, RSLinx Enterprise needs to be version 5.00 or above in order to support FTA. The pdf with the matrix is downlodable from this technote: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=31705 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Troubles in activations During the installation of FaxTalk Batch, the install prompts the user for Serial Number and Product Key. I have the serial number, but not a Product Key number. The activation scheme being used is the newer Factory talk Activations processes. ### Assistant: You should have recieved a little red envolope in the box along with your product. This will have your product key in it. If you did not call into support and provide your serial number and they can look it up. I have de Activation Certificate but in the Product Key field it appears N/A Don't worry...:smileywink: Like Ozzy said, call the Support personnel, give them your serial number and they will come with the Product Key you need. n"}
{"text": "### Human: AB Part certification we know there is one link can get AB part certificate: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/products/certification/I wounder why not Rockwell put all components part certificate together, it is really waste a lots of time to search UL, ATEX,ABS, BV etc website to get the product certificate. also, there is no CE-IEC certificate for most or AB PLC, Control components, how Australia, NewZeland company to do the control panel certificate for class 1 zone 2 application?appreciate somebody have good idea about this ### Assistant: hi...there is the link...http://www.rockwellautomation.com/products/certification/ce/index.html#Drivescheers n"}
{"text": "### Human: printer support for panel view components-2711c-6tc can we connect printer to 2711c-6tc? ### Assistant: At this moment you can print nothing from Panelview Components.:smileysad: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Moving Activation to USB Flash Drive We have tried using the EvMoveCF to move an activation onto a USB Flash Drive. The problem we have is that all activations are moved even if only one is selected. Has anyone else encountered this problem? ### Assistant: You say that only one activation is selected: do you mean that you put in all others activations the Move parameter to 0 ? :smileysurprised: Normally you have to Edit All, write 0 to Move field, than select only the one you want to move, Edit Selected and write 1 to Move field.... :smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSSQL String Tag How do you set up a string tag in RSSQL. I am using a FT Connector (Factory Talk Transaction Manager), with a PLC 5 via a RSLinx Classic OPC topic. I set up a transaction for ST104:50,SC40 with a data type of PLC ST String.The resulting Svalue is NULL. ??? ### Assistant: Have a look to this technote: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=21658 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Redundant ring on control NET Is it possible to form ring network with channel A of CNBR and another ring network (isolated from channel A, i.e. channel A and channel B donot mix)with Channel B of same CNBR with the same set of ACNR's?.I have reffered the existing knowledge base article on Ring repeaters. in this article it is shown that the channel A and Channel B eventually connect to same Primary ring.Where as my question is can Channel A of CNBR form primary Ring and Channel B of the same CNBR form Secondary Ring (Isolated from Primary ring) with the same set of ACNR's? ### Assistant: When using the 1786-RPFRL or RPFRXL fiber optic ring repeater modules in an actual closed loop ring installation, coax redundant media is absolutely not supported as part of the ControlNet cabling. Redundancy is achieved by using Fiber ring, another redundancy (coax redundancy) is not supported in that case. :smileysad: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix Hard Overtravel I need to set the action for hard overtravel to function as Soft Overtravel - that is - allow motion in the opposite direction and automatically clear when the Hard Overtravel switch is no longer contacted. Any ideas? ### Assistant: Review tech note 21499. Basically, to get off a hardware over travel switch, the configured fault needs to be disable, jog off the switch and the re-enable the fault configuration. The tech note has example code to doing this. Linkified for convenience - JHutch Thank you for noting the procedure for moving off a limit switch. While this is a work-around we're looking for an addition choosable mode of operation so that a limit switch stops motion in that direction only but causes no inhibit to motion in the opposite direction and which clears any tripped status when cleared. That may have to be in a future version if any. Our primary use has been in exposed limit switches which may be inadvertantly hit. We have implemented an auto clear routine after their release. I guess that's the best for right now. Hi Burnie_c, another option is to use the TorqueLimitPositive/negative values from the axis.i.e. The moment the positive limit switch is made (Axis.PosOvertravelInputStatus), change the HardOvertravelFaultAction from that limit switch from i.e. 'Fast Stop' to 'Status only'. Simultanious, change the TorqueLimitPositive to 0. This leaves the negative torque to a level to jog reverse.After the limit switch is cleared, set the fault action and torque limit back to original values. Success,C n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC/Micro 1500 Memory Modules I have a six year-old line at a customer facility that will need programming changes done. One SLC 5/05 and two MicroLogix 1500 are installed using memory modules (1747-M11 for the SLC, 1764-MM2 on the Micro).I've been searching for an hour trying to find some comprehensive guide on working with these memory modules (installation manuals are worthless), since I rarely have used them and forgot everything I learned!I'll need to re-write modified programs to the modules and then make sure that they are set-up to load to the PLC if the batteries fail.Anyone know where to look? ### Assistant: KenC, the best place you may find it is the online help in RSLogix500. Go to Processor Status (Data File 2), select Mem Module Tab and go to help from there. Basically, you have to tranfer your modified program inside controllers; it must contains the settings for the Memory Module (S:1/10 flagged to charge from there if the battery fails).After that, in online, select the menu Comms, EEPROM, Store to EEPROM, in order to download the actual program inside the module. Hope this helps. :smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogixMicro Does anybody know if the product is released? :smileysurprised: ### Assistant: yes.use tech id 53531.cheers Linkified for convenience - JHutch Thanks Vikas, ok for the release notes.... But that means that the product is open for order entry?:smileysurprised:I can't find any trace of it in Rockwell's sites... Part numbers:9324-RLM0100ENE RSLogix 500 Micro Starter Edition9324-RLM0800ENE RSLogix 500 Micro Developer Edition The official word needs to come from your local RA field business leader. What I get from the AFS database and Passport is that you can't place an order today (9/15/08), but that the shipping dates are in September 2008. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Hanging alarms in Alarm Summary Object. Has anybody run into the issue of hanging alarms? I've got a large distributed SE 4.0 redundant system and periodically (weekly) the control room operators complain about an alarm that they cannot acknowledge either via ack, ackall, ackpage etc. Typically issuing an alarmoff/alarmon from the given area does not work. And, also typical, failing over to the redundant partner server does not work. What I usually must resort to is shutting down the secondary server and rebooting the primary which causes the plant to lose visibility in the particular area until the primary recovers. Any ideas greatly appreciated... ### Assistant: Are you sure that the primary and the secondary are identical? SE redundancy is very particular about synchronizing alarms on the redundant pair. Depending on the flavor of CPR7 you are running, you may be able to go into the properties of the Primary server and replicate the changes to the secondary. If not, you will need to manually copy these. Maybe there are some clues in the FT logs on both machines? JonathanKent is correct with saying that redundant pairs dislike different files. You will see loss of stability and alarming issues if the files on the primary differ from the secondary. If you do not have the replicate to secondary server button, located HMI server properties/redundancy tab, I would recommend upgrading to the latest patch rev for CPR 7. Once you have this option available, anytime a change is made to the Primary server, click that option and it will replicate to the secondary, then reboot the secondary all while the server is live without disruption to the clients. After early CPR 7 releases, I have not seen any issues like this. ID 35680 CPR 7 patch rollup for SE 4.0 Although there are multiple patches that relate to the alarm summary, even with the latest patches, if your primary and secondary server have different data files, you will still see issues. The replicate to secondary server option is one that Rockwell deserves a pat on the back for. Linkified for convenience - JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Virtual axis in the emulator Does anyone know if you can run a virtual axis in the logix 5000 emulator. Ican load the program but get and error.bit whenever I try and run it ### Assistant: You may find all what is supported in RSEmulate5000 at this link: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/gr/lgem5k-gr015_-en-p.pdf Page 12 - Virtual Axis is supported... :smileysad: So the error is generated by other problems... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Concurrent activations Could you clarify the following senario.One activation on Server - first user takes and returns token logs off. 2nd user takes token, then first user restarts. Will the 7day activation operate on the first user ?. If yes does this mean that the process can be used for one activation and multiple 7day activations ???? ### Assistant: hisee for this scenario.there are 2 types of concurrent activations.1.floating i.e once taken by client,as soon as clients shut downs its rockwell software,activation goes back to server.2.borrowed i.e once taken by client remains with him for 90 days.so if ur activations are floating then first user cannt get activation until second user doesnt leave activation.for borrowed activations,second user can request first user to return borrowed activations.cheers.:manhappy: DavidP, if I understand well what you written, you are talking about Grace Period, the new functionality that comes with FactoryTalk Activation in some Rockwell Software products, like RS5000 (from version 16.03).With this functionality, you don't need to have an activation on server to use the 7 days licence.Simply if you have no valid activation, the software starts with the Grace Period, to let you use it in this particular circumstance.Check this technote to better understand the functionality: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=45048 and also: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=44238 The FTA on the server works like Vikas have written.:smileywink: Yes and No DP,It's intended to prevent lines being down over something like licensing issues or connectivity issues. It is not intended to allow you to have multiple 7 day activations. If this is abused they will clearly take it away. Personally, I like having my lines up running... Thanks for the replies,With my senerio one concurrent activation could be used to reset the 7 day clock on each installation of CPR9 software on multiple pc's on a monday. Each PC would run the software on the 7 day grace without the concurrent activation loaded. A dongle activation would do the same n"}
{"text": "### Human: I can't install the RSLogix 5000. I can't install the RSLogix5000 software. The system says unable to configure module types in the RSLogix 5000 Module Directory. Any Changes made to the system will now be reversed. Kindy help me. ### Assistant: It may become necessary to Uninstall ALL versions of RSLogix 5000. Select a complete uninstallation and remove all the module profiles and configuration when prompted. This includes third party AOPs as well.Delete Module Profile folders if found on hard drive.C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareModule Profiles...C:Profile FilesRSLogix 5000 Module Profiles...C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000Module ProfilesDelete the Module Directory files, if remaining on hard drive.C:Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellModuleDirectory.dllC:Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellModuleDirectory.xmlReinstall RSLogix 5000 software. Technote referenced: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=38271 Hope this helps....:smileywink: go thru tech id 51432.cheers:smileyhappy: Yes Vikas, that is the right technote, but if you see, is RA Internal, so if the member is a customer, he can't reach this solution in KB :smileysad: My previous post gives the same solution and is accessible to Everyone, also without Tech Connect contract...:smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLadder 500 on Firmware10 Does anyone know if there is, will, or can be a fix for RSLadder 500 to go on a SLC 500 Firmware 10 PLC? ### Assistant: A similar issue may be found in following KB note: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=37823 Seems that you need to downgrade the CPU program to frn 3-9 using RSlogix500 to get this works.... :smileysurprised: Yes, I well know that the current fix is a downgrade of Firmware. What do I loose from 10 to 9? My first question was to see what can or will be done forward, not backward. You're right, Bema.... :smileywink:Unforunately there is only this workaround at this moment. Also, just to be clear... the procedure doesn't downgrade the controller firmware, cpu remains with frn 10; just you use an older set of functionality in the software. What do I loose from 10 to 9? Basically the following: • SLC 5/05 DHCP capability • SLC 5/05 EtherNet/IP Explicit Message (EEM) instruction • DeviceNet Explicit Message (DEM) instruction • ControlNet Explicit Message (CEM) instruction • Read Program Checksum (RPC) instruction • Secure processor via RSAssetSecurity Manual referenced (page A-20)http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1747-rm001_-en-p.pdf If you don't use those functions or instructions, don't care.:smileyhappy: Thanks, fuzzy logic, you are helpful. The DHCP capability upgrade could be useful for one client, but it is doable. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix 6000 Tuning Tab I'm starting up my first machine since updating to ControlLogix Ver.16. I have 5 Kinetix 6000 servo's and all the modules updated to the latest firmware. Has anyone else noticed that the tuning function just doesn't seem to work anymore? Everything is tuning WAY too hot and squealing like a pig when any motion is attemped. I've had to de-tune manually to get drives to run. If anyone knows anything about this I'd really appreciate it. The customer won't let me go back to Ver.15 (which worked nicely!) ### Assistant: I'm not aware of any changes to the tuning scheme in the latest firmware, which btw looks like is 1.99. That being said, the methodology that I follow is the following: 1) Be sure that your conversion constants and drive polarities are all verified before doing any tuning.2) If linear, set axis close to zero position. Rotational does matter.3) Set travel limit a few inches shy of your total travel distance capable.4) Set torque to 100%.5) Set tuning speed equal to normal running speed.6) Then set direction to foward bidirectional.7) Check velocity error integrator and velocity feed forward8) Tune axis9) When popup window comes up, reduce tuning bandwidth by 50%. So if it's 80Hz, reduce it to 40Hz. Doing this will reduce all the gains proportionaly. You are literally reducing the response bandwidth of the system.10) If gains still appear hot, you can tune again and reduce by 60%. Depending on the inertia mismatch of the system, you may have to go as low as 75%. Just be warned that a system that low won't have much muscle to fight disturbances. I've only had to use numbers that low when customers have not used the right gearbox. Of course, there could always be something loose! :) Hope that helps. I agree with most of the item above except I do not check any of the boxes and I use the damping factor adjust my tuning. If after the first tune, it is too hot, I retune with an increase damping factor. The higher the number the lest hot the system will tune. Thanks for all comments. Between these and local distributor help, managed to get things working well.Did find a physical problem with one drive train. n"}
{"text": "### Human: LEM Current Module Alls, I have an inquiry for LC500-S/SP7, can anyone inform me the correct cat. no. for this item. It installed in the 1336Plus AC Drive. Thanks. Kingkong ### Assistant: Here you may find the spare part list for your drive: http://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/1336/1336-6_5.pdf Search for the current transducer matching your drive size. Also this technote is for the troubleshooting guide: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=47263 Hope this helps... :smileyhappy:- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Use of a 1756-M02AE Has anyone ever used a 1756-M02AE servo card in a ControlLogix system driving a hydraulic proportional valve? If so, how well did it work, how stable was the system? ### Assistant: Have a look at this link(another forum ...) :smileymad: http://forums.mrplc.com/lofiversion/index.php/t7679.html - fuzzy logic Thanks for the llink fuzzy logic. The posts there did help me decide what I want to do in this system. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT Batch Equipment Module Tags I'm new to FT Batch and I'm a little confused regarding how to manually set up the Equipment Module tags in Logix. The data server is using RSLinx Enterprise from a different computer so doing a Synchronize isn't possibe the way it's currently set up. I've created an area model in FT Batch. I have an Equipment Module named AGITATE under one of my units. The default tags in the Edit Equipment Module are:AGITATE.OCAGITATE.FAGITATE.WAGITATE.PAGITATE.PDAGITATE.RQAGITATE.SSAGITATE.STAGITATE.SIAGITATE.UN I have also created an Equipment Phase in Logix with the same name. The .s in the tag names leads me to believe that there should be a data type that has these elements in it, but I can't seem to find any such data type. Is there a data type for the base Equipment Module tags or do I need to create it manually? I've been looking through various .pdf manuals but I can't seem to find the answer. Can anyone enlighten me or point me in the direction of the correct manual to look at? Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: TavMaster, I'm not an expert of FTBatch, so I'm trying to understand it as you are, and making some considerations that maybe or not be useful for you. Looking at the FTBatch phasemanager user guide http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/batchx-um009_-en-p.pdf at chapter 3, I found the following: Equipment modules based on the following types of phases must be initially created in the Equipment Editor and then added to RSLogix 5000 through the synchronization process: Fuzzy, thanks for the reply. It's looking like I do need to install Linx and Logix. I've figured out that Linx and Logix shouldn't need to be activated. I'm going to give it a try. n"}
{"text": "### Human: DH+ via 1784-KTX Card on Windows XP, Compatible? Hi there, I have a SCADA system communicating with a number of Allen-Bradley PLC-5's over DH+ networks, via 1784-KTX cards. The system currently runs under Windows 2000 Pro. I will shortly be needing to upgrade the OS to Windows XP. Does anyone know whether the 1784-KTX card (drivers, RSLinx, etc.) is compatible with XP Pro? Glenikins ### Assistant: Have a look at this technote: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=20440 Your card is listed there as compatible.If you plan also to change to a new PC, may be easier to use a 1784-PKTX (PCI bus). :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic The following is what you may read in RSLinx 2.5x release note: that means that is compatible, but you may find some issues in installation on some PCs :smileysad: You may experience difficulty configuring the 1784-KTC(X) or the 1784-KTX(D) in Windows XP or Windows 2000 because of how these legacy ISA cards obtain resources.We recommend using the PCI based cards when using Windows XP or Windows 2000. For ControlNet, use the 1784-PCIC(S) card, and for DH+ or DH-485, use the 1784-PKTX(D) card. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: modbus I'm a beginner for MODBUS communication. I'm currently working on five third party modules. how do i configure them using RS232 port in control logix processor(L61). kindly help me out. ### Assistant: Here we are: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ap/cig-ap129_-en-p.pdf The example applications mentioned in the above manual can be found on the RSLogix 5000 install CD. In RSLogix 5000, go to 'Help' and 'Vendor Sample Projects'. - fuzzy logic It would help a great deal if you specified what make and model these third party modules are, and what you mean by configure them. I can guess that you mean you need to poll data from these devices using the ControlLogix RS-232 port, but that would be only a guess. The more effort you put into Forum posts, the more help you can expect to receive. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View Alarm banner I am running a FT View 5.0 SE project and I have an alarm banner on most of my screens. When I updated to FT View 5.0 from 4.0, the banner placement is all messed up. I can't have the display settings set to size to runtime and I must set the pixel size manually. I have a Rockwell case on this, I was wondering if the issue has been resolved? ### Assistant: I see the same issue after 4.0 to 5.0 upgrade. I also have a case open and have no further updates other than this issue only occurs when the display is set to scale. If you can live with the display set to pan, then your ok. I can't use pan because of various resolutions used throughout the client base. When I was at tech ed 08, I tried to duplicate this issue on the test machines and had no success. To my understanding, there were no patch revs, just a multistate indicator patch. I believe that the jan 08 patch rollup might have caused an issue, but I have not been able to test this theory. Do you have any patch rollups installed on your machines? I was running an old version of 4.0 with some old patches and I updated to 5.0 and had the issue. I want to say that I had the problem with no patches installed . In March I downloaded 5.0 and when we went live I had installed the April patches and now I am currently on the June patches. One suggestion was to have a small screen at the bottom that is always on topand leave the area clear or resize all screens to not occupy that area. I have nottried it in AB but it works in Wonderware. yes, you're right -- using a docked display could be a way to solve the resize issue. But I don't understand what you mean when you say it 'messes up', especially if you are setting pixel size manually. Do you mean that your pixel settings don't match the default client size when you don't pick maximize?What's your case number? Messed up means; Lets say you have a alarm summary box on the bottom of the screen. It is 2 tall and runs the full length of the screen. The rest of the screen is buttons and gfx. When you load the page, the area you placed the summery is white and the black summery is half way up the screen, covering your buttons and gfx. If you touch the summery box, the white area of the screen where the box was set in development has a green halo around the 2 area. The strange thing I noticed was, depending on what screen I came from, the position of the summery box would change. I worked with Rockwell for several days on this and the best I got was redraw my screens. I will provide a case # on Sunday, and Yes the Pixel size needed to be set to fit it to our 17 Versaviews. sharonB..........the alarm summary banner has an issue when the screen display is set to scale. The alarm summary and the highlight around the alarm summary are two different items overlayed. With an alarm summary, we cant disable highlight, so we end up with an offset of highlight and banner. The starting pixel location is (0,0). Starting from the top left hand corner, if you move the alarm summ to the bottom right, the highlight is offset from the banner, sometimes (depending on res) by almost 2 inches. Is that the same issue you are seeing kev77? Yes it is. Do you know when we will see an update for this? Just to be clear, are you guys talking about the FTView Alarm & Events Banner or the tradition HMI Alarm summary object? I am using the traditional HMI alarm summary object. The same for me. My alarms are handled in FTView not RSLogix. OK, I haven't recently seen the issue you describe since we've switched to A&E displays. Do you have a case #? This doesn't answer your question immediately, but you could convert to Tag-Based A&E which would allow you to use the A&E banner. Tag-based A&E is where you configure tags to poll for alarming, similar to the traditional HMI alarming, only it uses the A&E server objects. You don't have to use Logix-based alarming to use the new View objects.There is a tool in the KB ID 45583 that will convert HMI alarms and make A&E import files for you. I am not saying you have to convert, just mentioning an alternative. If at all possible, maybe someone could check the alignment of the hmi summary and its highlight and provide a way to correct this anomaly. Its just a suggestion. I see what you're talking about now. I know you can't disable highlights for that object, but can you disable highlights for the screen its on as a workaround? Are you referring to the behavior of interactive objects option? Highlight When Cursor Passes Over It is set by default. Very interesting and a very viable option for a workaround. Issue still being that with different client resolutions, there may still be an issue keeping the alarm banner from moving over other objects and also ALL highlights are disabled for that screen. I will try this an let you know if it helps. Keep in mind that moving to the A&E banner gets the alarms in the processor and I have been told that it can put a strain on a program. I can varify that removing the highlight does not work. What I can't believe is that 5.0 has been out for months and the issue has not been resolved. What am I doing different then the engineers that worked on 5.0 release? I work on a several different systems that were setup by several different companys (all rockwell solution providers) and the banner is used the same way. I want to upgrade another system to 5.0, but I will have the same problem. Yes, I actually set both options in the screen properties -- disabled the Highlight when cursor passes over and also enabled the Disable highlight for selected objects. It worked OK, but as you mentioned, it is assuming the operator will not be tabbing to other stuff (buttons/input fields) on the screen. If the operator IS tabbing through stuff and you need to see the highlight, then if the alarm banner is on a docked display by itself, you could disable the highlight on that display only. However, you are correct in that it still doesn't solve the problem of the summary object itself moving around as it resizes. kev77 wrote: Keep in mind that moving to the A&E banner gets the alarms in the processor and I have been told that it can put a strain on a program. That is not entirely true. If you convert your alarm bits in the controller to ALMA and ALMD instructions, then yes, your alarms are in the processor. But if you convert your HMI alarms to A&E Tag-Based alarms (which are polled), the controller is hit in exactly the same way. The benefit to you is the improved alarm banner, summary, and history objects. They're highly configurable and operator friendly. SharonB wrote: kev77 wrote: Keep in mind that moving to the A&E banner gets the alarms in the processor and I have been told that it can put a strain on a program. But if you convert your HMI alarms to A&E Tag-Based alarms (which are polled), the controller is hit in exactly the same way. The benefit to you is the improved alarm banner, summary, and history objects. They're highly configurable and operator friendly.How do I convert hmi alarms to A&E tag based alarms? It would just be nice to fix it the way it was before the conversion. Also kev77, this issue might not happen with the next upgrade. I also stopped upgrading projects because of this, but my other co-workers have made upgrades without the same issue. Maybe its the settings of the banner when converted. My banner is has white text with a black background. Most I have seen are white backgounds with black text. How about yours? AnswerID 45583 will get you to the information you seek. Mine is red text on a white background. The reason I upgraded is because we want the more advanced motion instructions as well as the Ethernet VFD AIO. According to techs at tech ed, the conversion works good and FT alarms and events banner supports hmi alarm tags without any issues. AnswerID 45583 is the conversion tool. Thanks, I will check it out! I see under the known issues on the release notes, it says that analog tags are not converted yet. Is that Correct? If so, does that mean that the tool will not convert them or you can't use HMI tag alarms in the A&E Banner? I have this same problem from upgrading from 4.0 to 5.0 - I put everything to pan and fixed pixel but it does not help when we have versaviews on the floor and a SCADA computer in the control room with different resoultion then the versaview. So I went through and created a seperate file for the floor versaviews and the controlroom - very fun and time consuming, but I also have found that certain graphics on the screen will not change state when it actually changed state until I go away from that screen and come back. Anyone else seeing this problem? kev77 wrote: I see under the known issues on the release notes, it says that analog tags are not converted yet. Is that Correct?No, this is not correct. Thank you for pointing that out. The readme file has been fixed. DBLD99 wrote: I have this same problem from upgrading from 4.0 to 5.0 - I put everything to pan and fixed pixel but it does not help when we have versaviews on the floor and a SCADA computer in the control room with different resoultion then the versaview. So I went through and created a separate file for the floor versaviews and the controlroom - very fun and time consuming, but I also have found that certain graphics on the screen will not change state when it actually changed state until I go away from that screen and come back. Anyone else seeing this problem? Do I hear an echo, This sounds like a problem I had with a 17 versaview I purchased in January. I installed a versaview in March because the touchpanel on my old one was bad (design problem). When I put it online it would run fine for about 20 minutes and the longer it was online the worse the connection got. It had no problems changing the state of the buttons, the the screen would stop refreshing. No events would be logged, no errors to be found. I had too many hours and case # on this problem. Rockwell seemed to think that it was a bad NIC card. But who knows. Rockwell is going to come out and install a new Versaview soon. Your comment about not changing state sounds like what I saw. Is there a problem with the Versaviews? I run two versaviews and when I pressed a button on the new versaview it would change the bit, and I know this because I went to my other Versaview and saw it on the same screen. I don't think it is a problem with the versaview - but a problem in 5.0 that I did not have in 4.0 - When I upgraded to 5.0 from 4.0 I started to see the graphics not changing state - and even the Start / Stop buttons would not change color and the text inside the button would only be half way showen until you go away from the screen then back. It just sucks that the project in its current form developed in 4.0 will not upgrade to 5.0 without a lot of modifications. I think I was having alarm disconnection error in 4.0 and that promped to move to 5.0. I think that was a DCOM error on 4.0. As far as what you describe on what the buttons were doing, that is the same thing I saw. Do you run a Versaview in your Control Room? I have two Versaviews on the Production floor and a Windows Server 2003 R2 running the displays. How old are your Versaviews? Well one is 2 years old and the other is less then a year - we are updating one machine a year for the next 6 years - So I create the screens in whatever version is out now and go back and will update the other versaviews. I just have 1700p's on the floor and a Windows Pro box for the overall SCADA in the controlroom - So I had too create 2 projects to get the graphics to work right. I just hope next year if 6.0 is out it does not do something stupid when I go and update the other 2 to 6.0 I am running the 6181P 1700 series, one installed in 12/06 and the new in 3/08. What I can't understand is why do some projects have a problem and some don't. The version I am having problems with was created in 4.0 from an OEM toolkit. The versaview line has had some glitches in the past due to memory issues. Also, if you dont have the current patch rev in 5.0, you will see issues with change of state in indicators. I havent seen such an extreme issue as you guys describe with the versaview when using 5.0, but I dont use versaviews for those reasons. I would be interested to know if you had the same issues when running a thin client as opposed to a thick client. This would let you know if its a versaview or 5.0 issue. Hello all. I am Kevins distributor specialist and finally got connected to the new forums (still have not found the public link on ab.com or RSI pages). I wanted to add my own $0.02 to the parts about the A&E functionality. It is my understanding that using A&E with the ALMD and ALMA instructions actually reduces loading on the network since there is no polling when using the combination. However, there are two other considerations to keep in mind:The alarm instructions are somewhat costly in RAM.. they consume about 1k per instance. If you don't use too many of them this should not be a major problemTrue execution times of ALMA and ALMD are relatively long, so if a bunch of them go off all at once, your scan time will bump as a result. Other than those considerations, I am not aware of any other reason to avoid use of A&E instructions and the A&E client... Sharon, please correct me I'm not being accurate here! Just a quick note about the links... There are public forum links on the support pages here: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/ The forums link is in the nav bar on the left side. JHutch In your application, to display your main screen and all other (or a part of them) with an alarm banner, you can use two display : main (for example) and the alarm banner. In each on them specify in the display setting the place where they need to come on screen. In the command button, use the display command : display main; display banner. Instead to use a global object and make a copy on each of your screen. Maybe you need to install the patches from RSView SE / Me. You can found in this location: ME : http://files.rockwellautomation.com/UR/ME_4.0_Rollup_01_Jul_08.zip SE : http://files.rockwellautomation.com/UR/SE_4.0_Rollup_01_Jul_08.zip I am up to date on patches and the Alarm Banner problem still exists. I realize that I can do a few different things to correct the problem. Is this what we are to expect from future CPR's? I have 60 active screens and if every time a problem comes up, I need to go and modify all my screen then FT View is not for me. I opened a case on this problem back in late April and last time I checked my case was closed. What does that mean? Maybe my case was an isolated incident, maybe not. As far as the new Alarms and Events Banner, I have over 200 alarms, so I would rather keep the alarms in FTView. I downloaded the conversion program and want to try it but I need some more information on making that jump. Does anyone know if I can do the conversion and still have the old HMI alarms still work? A closed case doesn't mean the issue is being ignored. A closed case just means that the support engineer that was working with you has reached a point where no further communications between you are expected. Chances are, in this case, the issue has been run up the ladder and the product group has entered it in their issue tracking system. Now, if the engineer closed the case when the expectation was that he was going to contact you with more information ... then there is a problem. If that is the case, please contact me privately with the case number and I'll investigate further. JHutch JHutch wrote: A closed case doesn't mean the issue is being ignored. A closed case just means that the support engineer that was working with you has reached a point where no further communications between you are expected. My way of thinking is a closed case is a resolved case. If I open a case with a software issue, I expect some kind of feedback. I brought up the unknown issue in Late April or Early May and I am still guessing weather it has been corrected. How do we know if issues are resolved? Do we need to keep checking the patch rollups to see if our issue is reolved. I will PM the case # to you... Thanks kev77, I just upgraded another 4.0 application to 5.0. There are hmi alarm banners on all the screens (white with red) and not one of them had an issue. I know this doesnt help my other application or your application, but it does mean that we might be waiting a while for a resolution. The strange thing is that when I spoke with tech support the begginning of this year, they were able to duplicate it. There is really no reason that we should be forced to use alarms and events because rockwell can solve this anomaly. I will have some time in the next month to re-visit the application with this issue and hope to find the cause. I will update accourdingly and hope you do to if there is a resolution found. jperando, Was this on a 6181P Versaview? I am going to try and update to the alarms and events just for the simple fact that I can access alarm history easier. I thought that the alarms and events could only be done inside the controllogix. Now that I know that I can convert my HMI alarms, it is a better way to go for me. Thanks to the rockwell staff and cintributors for pointing it out! I can run both the old alarms and new alarms and events side by side until I am comfortable with the new setup. KEV77 You're welcome! Feel free to send me a message to tell me how awesome and fantastic you think the conversion tool is. ;) kev77, I am not having a hardware specific issue, since my application spans multiple devices in the field served from 3 main HMI and Data servers. They all have the same issue no matter what resolution or display type. It was an anomoly in the SE 4.0 to 5.0 distributed upgrade at this peticular site only. I know the new alarms and events dont have the same issue and I will more than likley go with the upgrade as well. Let me know if everything goes smooth......... I updated to the Alarms and Events and used the conversion tool and all the digital tags came across good. I did the conversion when the server was running and didn't even need to reboot. I had a analog memory test tag that was hanging up the conversion tool but I just removed the tag. I am in the process of upgrading another project that has several analog alarms. I will let you know how that goes. It is a much better way of alarming! Your post sounds promising..... I ran into another instance where there is an offset in the alarm summary after the upgrade, so I will be upgrading soon. Let me know if you see any issues with analog tags? Thanks for the feedback. Any one of you Rockwell folks know if the patch is complete yet? Don't know about this particular patch, but this is the listing of all patches for SE v5.0. In my experience, they keep it up to date pretty well. v5.0 SE Patch Table of Contents JHutch kev77 wrote: I had a analog memory test tag that was hanging up the conversion tool but I just removed the tag. I am in the process of upgrading another project that has several analog alarms. I will let you know how that goes.I am interested in any errors you receive re: analog alarms.They can be complicated to migrate. I sent you a message with my email address - if you wouldn't mind sending me the CSV files that make the tool hang up, I'd like to see what your issue was. Thanks! To date, the current patch revision does not correct this issue. I found another cause of this issue in an SE 5.0 client. When the client is configured with the Show Title Bar and show diagnostic list options there is an offset of the Alarm Summ. If the client is configured without those two options and set to maximize screen, there is no offset of the alarm summary and the client will scale accordingly to the screen size of the client The only downfall being that the client cannot be minimized at that point. Sorry to be slightly off topic but i've found that for the new Alarm and Events server, to be able to log the alarms and events, you need to configure an MS SQL database specially for this. For large projects, this would be fine but for a small project for 100 plus alarms, to create a database specially for this would be overkill. Why can't it work like the old method where the alarms are just logged onto the HMI server? mukesh wrote: Sorry to be slightly off topic but i've found that for the new Alarm and Events server, to be able to log the alarms and events, you need to configure an MS SQL database specially for this. For large projects, this would be fine but for a small project for 100 plus alarms, to create a database specially for this would be overkill. Why can't it work like the old method where the alarms are just logged onto the HMI server? Because the alarm log viewer does database queries and databases are a lot easier to work with than flat files. SQL Express is free and provided with the View installation CDs. It takes all of 5 minutes to set up the database in an application. it's really not as overkill as you think it is. :) SharonB, nice job with the conversion tool. It converted 7046 digital tags without any issues that I seen. It was easy to use and overall, very nice. Now the bad part -- After the excitement of the conversion wore off I was left with the ability to have a slightly updated version of the ME alarm structure in an SE app. The time I spent converting and setting up the Alarms and events was all wasted time for what I needed. Maybe I am way off base, but the new setup seems to of been implemented without the thought of people accually navigating in the alarms on a regular basis. The one thing I can't stand about ME alarm structure is that the description and the tags are linked by a reference # and located in 2 different sections. This might be great for the stability and structure that the software uses, but not for development and navigation by people. Also it might be ok for 100 alarms, but it is ridiculous for thousands. Correct me if im wrong, and I hope I am, but with the upgrade to alarms and events, I loose the ability to have individual colors for 9 separate severities and its replaced by 3 colors for low, medium and high based on the alarm that is closest to that level in severity. I loose any folder type structure for my alarms and they are just all lumped into one large list. If and when the need comes to have to change an alarm description, I need to wait for the alarms and events to load all 7046 tags and then load all 7046 descriptions ?(WHY)? And then scroll through all the tags to find the name listed like folder/folder/folder/tag and then check to see that its reference # 4756, now I go to the message section and find message reference # 4756 and edit the description. Great, that saves no time all and makes the alarming structure cryptic to new users. The summary display is nice, but the lack of functionality, structure, and the inability to easily navigate the alarms for development, makes this a very bad alternative to the original HMI alarming. The fact that there needs to be another piece (free SQL) installed to be able to log any alarms just adds to the pain. Then to put salt in an already gapping wound, tech support reassured me that the offset of the original HMI alarm summary after upgrading to 5.0 is not a priority right now and there is no ETA on a fix. You would think that since every 5.0 client does the exact same thing, it would be some type of priority. Just so everyone doesn't jump on the beatup the tech having a bad day bandwagon; I think the ability to assign tags to the message is great, Im not setting up 7000 string tags. I think the search option is wonderful, I can't remember the tag structure for 7000 tags for years to come. I like the options available, just not the structure and for me and this specific application, it wont work at all. On the bright side, the alarm display doesn't offset causing the inability to see graphics and select buttons. Just to be clear, Rockwell caused this issue with rewrite of the 5.0 client. There is no issue with a 4.0 client, but after seeing the 5.0 upgrade, there is an improvement in speed and stability and I wouldn't rev back for anything. So im at the mercy of those who have fixed an incredible amount of issues that resided in the 4.0 release and created some new ones with 5.0 release. Whooh....Im glad we have the forums back. JHUTCH -- Close this post, there is no fix on the way anytime soon, but im sure you are already aware of that. Maybe open a new post when there is a fix. Kev77, maybe you have heard differently........ SharonB wrote: Because the alarm log viewer does database queries and databases are a lot easier to work with than flat files. SQL Express is free and provided with the View installation CDs. It takes all of 5 minutes to set up the database in an application. it's really not as overkill as you think it is. :) Yeah i found the installation files but wasn't sure about licsensing of the product. But you said its free. My other concern was the reduction of processing power and memory remaining after installing SQL express onto one of the FT machines. So, wouldn't this require a dedicated machine to handle the SQL database? If not where would be the best machine to install SQL onto? (Ie, FTDir, HMI server or even Domain controller?) I was told over a month ago that there is a fix in the works by Rockwell Quality. I left a message for her yesterday. We'll see... I have a project that is scheduled to go live next month and I must have all projects at 5.0 to be run off my new redundant server setup. I have (2) 5.0 projects and (1) 4.0 project. I guess I can try and update to 5.0 and see how it goes... just so you know kev77, factory talk alarm and events are not compatable with redundancy. Sorry I forgot to point that out before. All of my systems are redundant, so it put me in a bad spot. jperando, thanks for the feedback on the conversion tool. I'm glad it worked for you. Now to address some of the other stuff you mentioned -- losing the folder organization aspect of alarms and message ID assignments. I agree with you in that the usability could be improved. The saving feature, from a developer's point of view, is that the alarm definitions are separate from the project itself and can be exported/imported as needed, and editted using Excel. In that sense, it's not any different than importing/exporting the tag database to modify HMI alarms. I guess I am willing to make that tradeoff until it's improved. As a user of both systems, I much much prefer the new A&E summary/banner. I also believe that requiring SQL to log history is a step up. Not only is the history object a million times better than what we used to have, since the data is in SQL, you can write custom queries for basic reporting functionality. Additionally, with 1000 alarm severies and user-defined classes, you can configure sequence of event data a lot more easily by automatically filtering out what the operator really cares about. he doesn't need to see 100 alarms when what he really needs to know is that his drive failed. And last but not least, redundancy! This will be in the next major release of View SE. Re: the alarm summary offset problem, have you guys seen technote 52404, there is a suggestion uncheck size to main window at runtime: Problem Summary: In a display client when the cursor is moved over an Alarm Summary object, the Highlight box is displayed as detached from the Alarm Summary. This behaviour is only visible when the Display Settings Property Size to main window at runtime is selected.This issue is evident only with the Alarm Summary object.Applicable: FTView SE v5.00 CPR9 onlyWork Around: Unchecking the 'Size to main window at runtime' checkbox in the graphic's DisplaySettings will circumvent this issue I didn't see this mentioned yet in this discussion, so apologies if I just missed it.Thought I'd mention it just in case. SharonB, Thanks for the reply. I can't get into the message to send you the excel file because our spam filter is too tight. As for un-checking the size to main window at runtime, what will this cause if I have it running on several different clients with different screen sizes? jperando, thanks for the information on the limitations, this saves me a lot of time. When you uncheck the option to size to main window, it will then display in what ever size window it first opens in. So if your lucky, it will be a small window and the alarm summary will not even appear because it will be completely off of the screen. The highlight will stay right where its suppose to. The issue seems simple, the highlight will scale with the screen size, the graphic within it does not. Apply the same scaling to the graphic that is applied to the highlight and its fixed. SharonB, its nice to see that you take pride in what you help develop, but at this point the alarms and events is not a viable solution to the alarm summary offset issue. I will in the future look forward to using the alarms and events features, but for current applications I have developed around using the HMI alarm summary and alarm log viewer. The tech note to uncheck size to main window is not a solution, or even a workaround. The next technote that is pointed out in this posting should be the fix for this issue and whoever posts it should at least try it first. jperando quote: JHUTCH -- Close this post, there is no fix on the way anytime soon, but im sure you are already aware of that. Maybe open a new post when there is a fix. Kev77, maybe you have heard differently........ While I agree this post has rambled all over the place and has gotten so long it is hard to follow, there is a lot of good information and too much on-going discussion to close it off or even to cleanly split into other threads. If you want to split off part of the discussion, by all means feel free to create a new thread and even post a link from here to the new one (I can help with that if you are unsure how). JHutch JHUTCH, I completely understand.It would be nice to see information towards correcting the original issue as opposed to work arounds that don't fully satisfy the needs of users that experience this problem. There has been no post that updates any response to this issue or any type of acknowledgement that its even being looked at. If this information existed somewhere in this post then it would be beneficial for those who are experiencing this problem. The post is a great resource, just not for why it was opened. We'll I got a response from Rockwell QA... The fix will be issued with the product release sometime this fall. I heard that it is like a service pack for FTView. As of this moment, no patch will be released in the rollups. Thanks for the update, kev77 Just to be clear, does this address the question reiterated here: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=FTStudio&thread.id=247 JHutch QUOTE:Just to be clear, does this address the question reiterated here:http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=FTStudio&thread.id=247 JHutch No, a time frame and an acual fix for an issue are two completely different things. Well, to be fair, you said progress and a time frame for a fix *can* be considered progress ... :smileywink: But I understand what you mean. If I hear anything more specific from the SE product group, I'll let you know. JHutch Quote kev77 Check out ID 54884, the patch has been released fir the display problem. I will try it next Thursday! I stand corrected..............there is a fix available. Thanks kev77 Something strange... I have not installed the patch yet (will do so Thursday) and I have been using the new Alarms and events banner and I have been missing alarms. It would only show me the 3rd active alarm. The first 2 would not show but it would show the correct numbers of active alarms. So I did a little test, Screen properties; Set to specific size 1280X975 Size to main window at runtime- checked The problem seems to be in the Allow display to be resized box. It doesn't matter if I have that box checked, if it is set to Scale it will not show the alarms. As soon as I set it to pan, the alarms can be seen. I think it is similar to the offset problem we have seen in the past with the old alarm summary. It looks like it is not only scaling the display, but it is scaling inside the alarms and events banner. The reason I think this is because when I have 2 alarms I can see the very bottom of the second alarm text. I hope the patch corrects that problem as well! Does this make sense? Kev77 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Basic alarm setup  troubleshooting I have a PVPlus application running and have added the alarm multiline display since I can have situations where more than one alarm happens at the same time. I went into the editor and configured some of the tags to test but I am not getting an alarm on the pvplus once its downloaded. The PVPlus is replacing an old IDT terminal and the logic in the PLC5 is using an integar file but the alarms are integar bits (n9:0/0) and then speeds are displayed using the whole word (n9:5). I have tried using the bit and value configuration but don't seem to be getting anywhere. Is there a document that can help me figure out the madness? S!eve ### Assistant: showelljr, In your case you have to configure the alarm trigger pointing to the integer that contains the alarm bits (N9:0) using a trigger type bit; than you have to assign to your messages a value, starting from 1 that means N9:0/0, until the last alarm you use (the number is the offset position of the bit inside the word) If you have more words of alarm, you have to specify the number of that words after you select the trigger( N9:0,Lx - x stays for the number of elements you use). The right source that you may use to understand your issue is the ViewME User Manual, chapter 9, pages 9-12 9-13:http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/viewme-um004_-en-e.pdf Hope this helps... :smileyhappy:- fuzzy logic I understand what you are saying but what I am having a hard time with is that has I put my alarms into the editor ({::[947113_PLC5]n9:0,L4] and then each one of them has a trigger incrementing from 1 up to 64, if I have multiple alarms is it still going to display all of the alarms that are tripped into the Multiline display? If I have well understand, you are using the Library Display called MULTI-LINE.This is a pre-formatted display that uses Alarm List to show the alarms. Based on the selection that you can made inside the Alarm list configuration (double click on the banner - Display Tab) the display shows you the active/inactive/all alarms; leaving it to the default settings, it will show all the alarms and, if you have for example N9:0 with all bits to 1, you will see all the associated alarms appear together. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Generic Sercos Card Does anybody have any information on a 1756-M08SEG Card? There doesn't seem to be anything published. my local branch doesn't seem to be any help either. ### Assistant: The M08SEG is a bit of an engineered product. It has been tested with Indramat drives and others with success but should not be thought of as a canned product that will control anything out there. The major problem is in the different vendors implementation of the SERCOS standard. Here is an excerpt from an FAQ: SERCOS interface is covered by the IEC/EN 61491.standard. The standard defines multiple operating modes and over 500 standard parameters. While all vendors of SERCOS interface products generally follow the IEC/EN 61491 standard there are a number of issues that made multi-vendor interoperability and interchangeability difficult. To address this issue the Pack Profile specification was developed. It defines a specific set of operating modes and parameters defined in the IEC/EN 61491 standard that must be supported. A conformance testing/certification process is also enforced. The Pack Profile specification (V1.2) and a list of compliant drives is available at www.sercos.org. n"}
{"text": "### Human: High CPU usage on Logix 5000 In logix 5000 task monitor I've Trends using 60% of CPU time.There are no trends set up in the processor. Please assist ### Assistant: May be there is something wrong in your application: try to Save As... the application in .L5K format then import it into a fresh .ACD file. Otherwise it seems to be an installation issue, and I think should be nice to reinstall the tool. I've seen this before. Patience is the cure. While it is connecting and retrieving data from the controller, the Task Monitor utility uses the same memory buffer mechanism as RSLogix 5000 Trends, so it mis-reports a high utilization of the controller by Trends until it finishes connecting and optimizing that communication. If you have a large program or a small amount of communication timeslice available, this condition can persist for up to a couple of minutes. On one system I just started the Task Monitor tool and got a cup of coffee waiting for it to start up fully. I've tried saving as .L5K and then importing but no luck.CPU trend usage is still high. Could it be that another workstation is online with the controller and is running a Trend? Trends are not uploaded to other worstations, so if someone else was online and running a Trend, you would not see it on your workstation. HiWhat constitutes a trend. Would a SQL server retrieving data from the controller be deemed a trend.Would RSview32 polling inform be deemed as the same. Would this no be deemed as communications. Ken Roach had it right. I have waited for up 20 minutes for the utilization to settle on a heavily loaded controller. Another suggestion is to download the latest version of the ControlLogix Task monitor 2.3.0 I have seen some older versions of the tool report the Trend thing and the newer versions corrected it. It can be downloaded from http://www.rockwellautomation.com/rockwellsoftware/downloads/ All, Note that a trend object is a Logix controller object (just like CST, WALLCLOCKTIME, MODULE, but not accessible via GSV/SSV). It is used to collect data for a list of tags that are sampled together, say by a RSLogix 5000 trend (duh), or by an HMI using RSLinx with CLx Tag Optimization turned on. Say the HMI polls a bunch of stuff on a screen once a second. When you call the screen up, the HMI goes to Linx and builds an OPC Topic with a list of Items (tags/data elements). That list is sent to the controller to build a trend object. When it's built, back comes the data (in a known order) all in a group -- a single data packet (or very few packets) containing all the data to update the screen. When you move off the screen, the trend object is marked Unused, and later deleted. So if you have a bunch of HMIs and the operators are changing screens like crazy, the number of trend objects will go up (and the memory usage along with). Trend objects are also used by the memory monitoring tools -- so if your system is running on the edge, the monitor tool will take a long time to come up, even though your HMIs are buzzing along fine -- the HMIs are not building new trend objects or deleting old ones if nobody changes screens, and managing the memory used by the trend objects takes some time. Note that the updating of the existing trend objects (gathering the data into buffers on a regular basis for sending to the HMIs) does chew up a fair amount of CPU. Well, that's my understanding of what the trend task in the Logix OS does.... Always go to the authoritative source for details! In this case, it would be good to check out the Trend Object spec in the CIP Specifications. Best Regards,Dale Hi, There are produced (consumed by 8 PLC) and consumsed (produced by 8 PLC) tags + HMI requests (15 RSview32 HMI) + 1 x RSsql server. Will increasing the overhead time splice % causeany major problems on the program. The program scan time is around 420ms. This should allow more time forback ground tasks. Thanks Moodan00 Are none of the previous replies adequately answering your initial request or is this a new question? At any rate, typically you will only see a gain from the overhead time slice between 20-40%. After that you're really not accomplishing much. How is your program configured? Do you have all periodic tasks, one big continuous task or a mix of the two? The overhead time slice will only affect the continuous task. You do have a lot of data requests being made to your CLX, but as long as all the requests are going through one RSLinx interface you should be fine. Linx will merge multiple requests into one single request to try and optimize comms to the processor. If all of those devices that you mentioned have their own RSLinx package communicating to the processor, then you definitely could improve your communications overhead by utilizing one data server. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Authorization number !!!!!!!! I have the AB Toolkit but where is the authorization number printed!!!!!!!!!!!!!How do I get this number!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! help ### Assistant: i didnt get u.what AB toolkit?what is the part no?will u pls clarify?still whot i feel is u r talking about RA no...TechID 48743may help.cheers:smileywink: When you received your ToolKit, you should also have received TechConnect authorization number. If you don't have it, call into the Technical Support center to speak with Contract Services. They will be able to track down the information for you. *vikas* I don't think you meant that AID ... not only does it have nothing to do with this, it is an internal only document. :) JHutch Dear Vikasit is Rockwell Automation Toolkit with Catalog 9398TK1T1B i hope that is sufficient info thanksrajesh ragni, as JHutch posted, you have to call the Technical Support for your region; they will ask you the info of your toolkit, serial number etc. and should solve the problem, giving you your Authorization Number. :smileywink: If you have troubles to find the right contact, see at this link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/locations/ - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View Studio ME Is it possible to print the alarm history to the external compact flash card instead of a printer? ### Assistant: No it isn't... :smileysad: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=39255 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: KepServer on RSViewME station, what version do I need? Hi: I have:1) VersaView CE box with RSView ME v4.x2) RSViewME v5.x on my development laptop.3) A *.pfe file on my laptop.4) A v5.x APA file on my laptop I need to modify an existing project I've inherited. I know I can down compile to a v4.x MER file, but what version of Kepserver should I have on my laptop? How can I tell what version is on the VersaView (directory location?)? Do the two need to match? ### Assistant: You have to check here: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=33968 There are all the answers you need (more or less :smileywink: ) But why don't you update the PanelView Plus CE to v. 5 ?:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix Micro Dear AllHow RSLogix Micro different from RSLogix 500? where one can find the details about this ?thanks rajesh ### Assistant: ragni, so finally you got your activation number ! :smileyvery-happy: RSLogix Micro is a more cost-effective application development software exclusively for MicroLogix Controllers. –Same reference standard features as RSLogix 500, but simplified by: • No SLC controller support • No FactoryTalk Services support (except Activation) – Standard Node-locked license only • Support of On-line editing for all MicroLogix that support it • Readily shares project files with RSLogix 500 – Cannot be installed on same PC as RSLogix 500 Also you may find the release note in KB: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=53531 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CREATING STRING TAGS i am trying to get my program set up to send e-mail from my controllogix controller with 1756-enbt card, it said i need to go to EWEB_EMAIL STRING, do i have to create that or is it already there? if so how do i create the srings i need to use, thank you for any advice ### Assistant: TOM. W, all the answer you need in these two technotes: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=32295 http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=30937 Examples are attached in it. - fuzzy logic Also check this old post, it may helps.... :smileywink: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Logix&message.id=331#M332 edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSlogix 5000 Does anyone out there have a easy way to check to see if a value in a register has changed? ### Assistant: I don't know if I well understood your question... :smileyindifferent: If you want to see if there are differances between your offline file and the program loaded in the cpu, you may use the Compare Tool. You have to install it from the RSlogix 5000 Instalation CD, under Tools folder. The technotes below may help you... http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=52526 http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46140 - fuzzy logic Sorry, I wasn't clear on my question. What I'm trying to do is check a value in my logic to see if it has changed recently. I'm trying to compare and old value witha new value. I have done this before, however when I update the old to become the new I get varied results because the logic may update the old even thoughI'm not wanting to have it updated at that time. Maybe this is still not clear, but what I need is a way to compare old and new values after some logic has taken place. I'm looking at a scale value on a particular scan. I want to check that scale value on the next scan and compare to the old scan to see if I need to update and run that logic in the next scan; if not I want to bypass that logic until I get a change in the value then update the old to the new. Does this make more sense? Thanks Ok, I'm getting lost in the words, but still ok (joke) ... :smileyvery-happy: Well, I have attached my example, hope that helps...(it needs some glue logic I think..) - fuzzy logic I'm doing a bit of reading between the lines here, but this comment raised a flag (emphasis added): I'm looking at a scale value on a particular scan. From what I think you are saying, sometimes the logic works, and sometimes it doesn't (I get varied results) You need to adapt yourself to a new way of thinking when working with Controllogix: IO update is asynchronous to logic scan. Therefore, if you are looking at an input tag in two different places in the logic, even if they are on consecutive rungs, or even on the same rung, there is a chance that when the logic scans it, it could have two different values, having been updated in the time between. PLC-5s and SLCs do not work this way, but ControlLogix does Usually this isn't a problem. But it sounds like, just maybe, your logic could fail because you check to see if it's not changed (it hasn't), and then later down your code, you either check on it again, or you assume that is hasn't change, but it now has. The way to get around this problem is to buffer the input, moving the Input to some internal tag once and only once in the program, and then use that internal tag everywhere else in your program. Otherwise, FuzzyLogic has got the right answer - if an NEQ is true, store the new old value, and flag a bit. The bit could be OTL (as shown) or OTE (which makes the bit only true for one scan). Good luck. n"}
{"text": "### Human: problems with sl500 go to error and put in fail i have problems with a cpu sl500 5/5 some times go to error and stop plc and show fail im reset the fail and run again my question is is posible write one routing in the plc for reset for no go to error i have one aplication critical and is danger when stop the sistem ### Assistant: Should be nice if you could check which error is... you have to go online with the software and see inside the ERRORS tab (register is S:6). In any case, seems possible that error is a math overflow (sometimes it happens with counter registers); in that case is enough to create an unconditioned rung in LAD2 (the last rung) with Unlatch of bit S:5/0; this doesn't solve the eroor, but keeps cpu running. ..but the best is first to understand which error is.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic im see in the plc error 36h is in pid im see in s:54 and in s:6 im see 0h An invalid value is being used for a PID instruction parameter. For some reason, An invalid value was loaded into a PID instruction by the user program or by the user via the data monitor function for this instruction. You have to monitor manually the PID instruction to see which value is changing to an invalid value; you may also monitor the MS byte of the second word of the Control Block of that PID instruction :smileysurprised: and verify the exadecimal number tha represent the sub error code; a table is reported on this manual, pages 9-21/9-22 http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1747-rm001_-en-p.pdf - fuzzy logic To answer your question - Yes, it is possible to have the SLC execute a routine when it faults, so that it can recover from the fault. The important word is possible. Some errors are recoverable, some are not. The one you mentioned is a recoverable error. But an indirect address with a pointer outside of the range of the data table (a very common error) is not. And, even if you have a recoverable error, you have to program the SLC to fix the error and reset itself. In short, you have to anticipate what the error will be. But if you know what the error will be, why are you allowing that error to happen in the first place? Quick how-to: Create a LAD file (I typically use LAD 13, unlucky number). Don't have a JSR to it. Enter the number of that LAD file (13) in S:29 (on the Error tab of the Processor Status). When the SLC faults, it will execute that LAD program. The LAD program should, among other things, clear S:6 (fault code) and S:1/13 (Major Fault). n"}
{"text": "### Human: duoble ENBT in each redundancy rack I put double ENBT in each rack in a redundancy system . How do switch one ENBT to the other in one rack ? ### Assistant: derek, your question is not so clear for me... :smileysad: You have 2 ENBT modules on every redundant chassis, during switchover the primary and secondary modules swap IP addresses. ENBT 1 in the primary swaps addresses with ENBT 1 in the secondaryENBT 2 in the primary swaps addresses with ENBT 2 in the secondary See at page 38-39 of redundancy user manualhttp://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1756-um523_-en-p.pdf - fuzzy logic How to do this?ENBT A in the primary slot 1, ENBT B in the same chassis slot2 .ENBT #A in the secondary slot 1, ENBT #B in the sme chassis slot2 . if the connection of ENBT A is broken , it will siwtch secondary classis . But I just want to witch to ENBT B at the same time in the same classis. You may be able to do this using Alias Topics Switchover is RSLinx Classic, however, why are you trying to do this? Why wouldnt you just want the chassis to switch to the secondary? You now have 2 extra cards, and if you let the redundancy take care of the switchover normally, if you do have a communication loss to the ENBT it will switch to the secondary ENBT. derek, I'm agree with rfridulin... it is not clear the why you have to do this.... :smileysurprised: I guess you plan to have a redundant Ethernet/IP, but keep in mind this note, from the User Manual: 2 EtherNet/IP modules in same chassis does not give you redundant EtherNet/IP communication. A switchover still happens if one of the modules fails or a cable breaks. - fuzzy logic These guys are correct. In configuring the redundancy, you assign your main IP address to your main chassis and the software automatically reserves the next IP level so make sure this isn't used eslewhere in your system configuration. For example, you main rack is 10.10.10.10 then the system automatically grabs 10.10.10.11 for the ENBT in the secondary rack. Upon failover, the IP address swap and the secondary rack now has 10.10.10.10 for its IP address. Your OPC topic, HMI app, etc. never notices that it's physically talking to a different module. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can a String Input pop up be pre loaded for editing. My customers wish the String Input pop up could pop up with the current value so that the entire string would not need to be reentered when they only want to change a few characters. Is this posssible? ### Assistant: MBAES, if you are talking about ViewME, unfortunately it isn't possible. String Keyboard or scratchpad comes with empty display... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View Studio :smileyhappy: Hello everybody!!! I have a customer application which is running in a standalone HMI. The customer has only a runtime license, it means, FactoryTalk View SE Station 100 Displays. My question is: if I go on commissioning, maybe I need to do some changes, should I be able to open FactoryTalk View Studio with a dongle? Or what should I do? The activation type is Concurrent. I would be appreciate your advice. Kind regards, Yari ### Assistant: Hi. If the ViewStudio is installed on customer PC, and FactoryTalk activation has been linked to the dongle, no problem. - fuzzy logic Fuzzy logic, It means, I have to Activate the dongle for this computer? Or what do you mean with linked? Kind regards Sorry Jg Yari, maybe I was not clear... :smileysad: You have to use FactoryTalk Activation tool on that computer to select, as Host ID for activation, the dongle.After that, when your dongle will be inserted in an USB port of that PC, your studio will activate normally. Note:You may use your dongle on many PCs, one at a time; that means you can select as HostID the same dongle on many PCs. Hope this helps.... :smileywink:- fuzzy logic :smileyhappy: Many thanks... I did and is still working... Have a nice day :smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: What is the relationship between FactoryTalk and RS Logix? I've been given the heads up that I'm supposed to learn FactoryTalk, so as to maintain an app that's going to be created by contractors at my place of employment in the near future. I've been reading everything I can get my hands on about both FactoryTalk and RS Logix 5000. In fact, I downloaded the time-limited version of RS Logix 5000, watched the videos, and am reading the docs. Can anybody advise me where to go from here? ### Assistant: I guess I should add: I have been programming for a dozen years, but in the Windows desktop and web (asp.net) world - never anything remotely like this stuff! Looks like you're headed in the right direction. The only other thing I might suggest is a training class or two. JHutch Clay, I have been programming PLC's for 15 years or so andfor the life of me, I don't know what the concept of Factory Talk is. You dont program Factory Talk. As far as I can tell from my experience with the term, Factory Talk deals with licensing of Rockwell software. You also run into it when setting up users in RSView (g'luck with that, mate!!!) Now learning RSLogix is a tangible thing you can wrap your mind and hands around. Factory Talk refers to the new software that utilizes the Software Activation Factory Talk. Studio ME as an example was RSview Studio ME. After they released Factory Talk Activation, RSview Studio ME (Machine Edition) turned into Factory Talk View ME. Same Part number, new name. So far Programming software has not changed. Partially true, partially not... :smileywink: Really the change of the name in many Rockwell softwares is related to the fact that these softwares uses one or more FactorTalk services from a common shared platform Software Oriented (SOA), one of which is FactorTalk Activation.Also, not all the softwares that use this, have been renamed (RS5000 is an example).For a description of the FactoryTalk Services Platform, the software that use it and what the services do, navigate this link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/rockwellsoftware/factorytalk/services.html Newer version of some of these software have also some changes, due to the fact that they have started to use one of these services since last CPR. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Anyone seen this before? Trying to import a .csv file and I get this. Importing from D:DataSunRiseSunSet08.csv...Options: Create Tags=Yes, Overwrite/Discard Tags=OverwriteImport New Comments=Yes, Overwrite/Discard Comments=Overwrite, Match by Rung Number=NoError: Line 1: Import Export version mismatch. Expected version is 0.2. Import file's version number does not match current software version.Totals:0 tag(s) created0 tag(s) overwritten on collision0 description(s) imported0 new comment(s) imported0 comment(s) overwritten on collisionComplete - 1 error(s), 0 warning(s) ### Assistant: I guess you are trying to import a .csv file generated with a RS5000 software version > 13 (i.e.15 / 16/ 17) in an older version < 15 (i.e. 13 / 12) ...:smileysurprised: That is not possible, due tu differances in the compiled text file; first of all the version that in RS5000 v15 and newer is 0.3 (the version of csv import/export file is visible opening a csv file for edit) You may try to change this value manually to 0.2, but I think that you'll receive other errors.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Have a look at the following KB. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=33852 Regardsbusoff n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controling a micrologix 1500 with 2 Panel View 600 HMIs Is there a way to synchronize the 2 Panel View 600 so they display the same screen? We are using a micrologix 1500 PLC, connecting 2 Panel Views to it is possible. Using a 1761-NET - AIC interface module and two 1747AIC isolated link couplers. (DF1 to DH-485) I also know this may cause communication to slow down. Normally we would only use one HMI for our system, but we have a customer who is requesting a second HMI that will be in a remote location. What we want to do is when a button is pushed on HMI one HMI two would move to the same screen as HMI one. ### Assistant: yes, there is a way... :smileysurprised: You may use for that the Status/Control Tags in Application Setting, defining tags that advise PLC which screen is active by sending its number and, with some logic in PLC program,write a Control Tag to the other PV to command the opening of the same screen.Remember to write 0 again on this Control Tags after the screen has changed, to release the Screen change works from operator side. Here the link to the user manual, chapter 20, page 20-24 http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/2711-um004_-en-p.pdf Hope this helps, :smileyhappy:- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix tags How do I export Tags from ControlLogix/FlexLogix in RS5000 to a FactoryTalk Studio - Machine Edition project. I don't have the hardware at my location. ### Assistant: You must first export your tags from RSLogix 500. Tools, Export. Samething in reverse in RSview Studio. Tools, Import. Just find the file you exported and it should import right into RSview Studio. Oops typo, I meant to say RSLogix 5000. Also, if you have the .ACD file from RS5000, you may use it in RSLinx Enterprise configuration - Local Tab - Offline fileThis procedure let you use the Direct Referencing of the Tags, instead of create an HMI tag database.Here the link to a document that explain how to configure it: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=32298 - fuzzy logic And, unless I'm having a complete brain lock this morning (always possible), you *can't* import RS5k tags. You either get the tags online or offline from the ACD. JHutch Not really JHutch, your brain seems to run very well ! :smileyvery-happy: This direct import isn't possible. In fact, there is an utility that allows to do this:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=45926 - fuzzy logic I tried to do the export/import but RS5000 exports .csv and FactoryTalk imports .med or .sed so the files do not show up for import. Also, if you have the .ACD file from RS5000, you may use it in RSLinx Enterprise configuration - Local Tab - Offline file Thanks for the help. This worked. Allows me to pick the tags when I make a connection. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1336 Drive and F10 Error We have a 1336 drive that has been faulting out of F10 error for a long time (I have seen this problem since 2006). We have replaced the Mod G2 card, we replaced the drive with another drive, we have checked the blue wire and serial cable but on occassion we still get the F10 fault. Has anyone else encountered this problem and have any suggestion on what we can do to eliminate it? ### Assistant: This fault normally comes if there is some problem with the scanport cable i.e either it is loose or faulty.This link may helphttp://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/1336f/faults/ I guess agt is talking about old 1336, not 1336Plus or Plus II...:smileysurprised: In that case, the problem is still reguardind a Serial Error, but with the module that is a Remote I/O - MOD-G2. From 1336 user manual: This fault is sensed only after the drive is powered up and has sensed the presence of the Remote I/O Board by establishing a communications link to the board. Here the Recommended Actions from Troubleshooting Guide: 1. Check the ribbon cable between the drive and MOD-G2 Board. 2. Check Fuse F1, located on the Main Control Board behind the Local Display and Programming Panel. If the fuse is open, the Logic Power of the Control Board has drawn excessive current. Replace the fuse with a 0.5 amp/250 volt Fast-Acting 5 x 20 mm fuse. Strange is that you have already changed all you can... :smileysad:Take another deepened control to the connection between the module and the drive... unfortunately I can't suggest other... - fuzzy logic Yes you are right fuzzy, I am talking about an old 1336 clasic drive. I should really have phrased the we to I was told that..... I agree that it seems that we have changed all we can and still have the problem. I received a call from tech support today and the techy guy was quite knowledgeable with the classic drives (I am not). He indicated the same kind of solution that you mentioned but he also said that it could be a noise problem and to look at how the serial cable from the modg2 is routed to the 1336 drive. I am having our electronic tech build a brand new serial cable and I will try that. I will verity the routing of the cable to make sure it is now located near any high voltage. If we come up with a solution I will post it here. Thank you for your suggestions. Thanks for the link Vikas. Even though it is for a newer drive, I still found the information useful. As I indicated to fuzzy, the A/B tech indicated it might be a noise problem and this was mentioned in the link. I might consider putting some ferrite around the serial cable to see if this helps. If fuse F1 was blown would I not be getting the F10 error continuously? Yes agt, for sure...:smileytongue: This was mentioned in Troubleshooting guide, but really isn't your case. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx activation problem I installed RSView32 Works and RSLinx Classic on a pc that already had RSView Studio (ME) and its associated software. Everything seemed fine but my RSView32 will not get tag information from my SLC5. This may be an activation problem. When running, RSLinx has the heading of RSLinx Classic for FactoryTalk View. I am told that this means that no activation is present and it is using FactoryTalk View's license to start as RSLinx Classic for FactoryTalk View. RSLinx Classic for FactoryTalk View is not compatible with RSView32! I've uninstalled RSLinx and reinstalled to no avail. My directory has the .lic file. This file says: PRODUCT_NAME:RSLinx Single Node Any ideas? ### Assistant: Obviously Rslinx is accessing FTA.Check ur RsView 32 compatibility with FTA.Is your RSview 32 CPR 9 revision?If not better install CPR 9 FT view 32.Hope it helps.:smileywink: Both my RSView and my RSLinx are CPR9. okDid u check out for topics created in RsLinx for Slc? What do you mean? I didn't create any DDE/OPC Topic in RSLinx. I was trying the Direct Driver Node configurations. Seems that you have a FTA activation for RSLinx Single Node... there are some limitations on using it with RSView32, and the most related to your issue is that you can't use any direct driver to communicate :smileymad: Reference:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=9709 You HAVE to configure an OPC topic (only one due to the kind of licence you got) inside RSLinx. You may follow this example in order to do that: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=50086 Also this: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=36620 Hope this helps... :smileyhappy:- fuzzy logic Thanks for the help. You were right, with that activation I HAD to configure an OPC topic! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Number of PowerFlex 7 series VFD's on ControlNet We are just working on a new installation in which we need to put a number of PowerFlex VFD's (700VC, 700S & 7000). on ControlNet. The VFD's will be the only devices on this network and we will be using a CN2 in the PLC rack for communications. We have done a trial in RSNetworks for ControlNet and the result are seemed to indicate that 50 VFD's would be fine (NUT 5ms & 80 ms RPI). Does this sound reasonable? ### Assistant: If you go in RSNetworx for Cnet, in offline also, in the project that you are trying, press the right mouse button on the CN2 icon, select properties and go to the Controlnet tab; there, have a look to the peak and average scheduled usage.These values (percentage) should be less than 80%, preferrable less than 70%.Also have a look to the total scheduled bandwidth of the network with the same limits in your mind.Eventually adjust your NUT and RPI to have these value correct. Maybe useful to read this technote on this:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=8479 Anyway,your network sounds reasonable. :smileyhappy: Also be careful to the limit of 48 taps per segment and total length of it, you'll need a repeater in your network... split the total number of drive into two segments. Here a link to the coaxial cable planning guide:http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/cnet-in002_-en-p.pdf Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic I have looked at both the CN2's scheduled usage and the total bandwidth and neither goes over 50%. Thanks for the reminder of the 48 taps & distance, and also for the technote. Very helpful. Gotcho n"}
{"text": "### Human: connecting plc thru modem Hi!I want to connect plc and pc thru gsm modems at each end. once the connectiion is made then plc programme /data will be available to pc or not , and can i send sms from plc to pc. what are the commands required in logix 500?thanks ragni ### Assistant: ragni, once the connection is established, you have the same options as you are connected directly to the plc with a serial cable. In this technote, you may find example about SMS; this program is for micrologix, you have to adapt to SLC-500, but should be easy. :smileywink: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=42779 Hope this helps.- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Macro Migration failure DMM(9:1) Macros will not migrate to project DMM(9:1) fault, any ideas. ### Assistant: Should be useful to know other informations: Which type and version of software are you using?In which manner are you trying to migrate macros?(from where - to where) The more informations you put into posts, the more help you can expect to receive. :smileywink: Anyway, this error usually indicates incompatibility between versions of software( importing new version of objects inside older revision of software) or incompatible format of the objects you are trying to move. Sometimes also is simply the location of the file on a networked drive to create an issue...move it to the hard drive in the pc and retry. - fuzzy logic KRguy, what software are you talking about - is this SE or ME? Are the macros from the same version of SE/ME or are they are different version? Can you open them in the original project or does the problem only occur in the new project that you are importing them into? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel View Component and Modbus I would like to connect a third part controller to Panel View Component via serial; in order to do this, I would like to implement the Modbus Protocol in the controller; whar Modbus is better for this (Modbus, Modbus ASCII or Modbus unsolicited??) How can I have an implementation guideline explaining the protocol? And how is the Internal Panel View Component data structure? ### Assistant: atraxas, I think that the best choice is dependant on what protocol in the other controller is available; I mean that, for example, you may use Modbus RTU (when Panelview is Master) or Modbus Unsolicited (When Panelview is a slave).As the drivers inside the PVc are the same as PanelviewPlus, except for the fact that they are already embedded in the products, you may have a look to the Kepserver Enterprise Driver Help (available here ), to better understand the differances and the data types available.Also, here is a link to a User Manual for Modbus and PanelviewPlus; this may be useful also for PVc.http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/2711p-um002_-en-p.pdf Least but not last a link to the WebHelp files for PVc. http://www.ab.com/eoi/graphicterminals/get/PVcExtendedSupport101.zip Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thank you very much fuzzy for your prompt and complete answer; I think that Modbus unsolicited is the right protocol for this application. I will let you know the further developments. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5 and LBL/JMP instruction question I have seen some Rslogix 5 code that uses the label instruction (1st instruction in the line) without ever being reference by a JMP instruction. I don't think this is a good programming practice. Why would someone do this? I would like to remove these LBL instruction. Does anyone know if I might be missing something here? ### Assistant: I'm agree with you; I can find any reason to explain this practice, except a forgetfulness. :smileymad: Or may be they used the labels as a placeholder or bookmark to easy find out some part of the program with Find tool....:smileysurprised: I think you can remove it. - fuzzy logic I had not thought about a bookmark but that seems to make sense. I could see using this but I would document the bookmarks somewhere in the code. (probably at the beginning of the ladder). It might have been done for that reason by the programmer but without documenting them they are only useful for him/her. Thanks fuzzy I've seen this done as a bookmark - it can be handy as it creates a visual seperation in the code and in the event of a documentation hicup - it is not some random uncontrolled bit in the program. I personally have ended up avoiding it, as it confuses some people easily (a customer had some equipment from a company in Germany - they did this a lot - everytime someone new was in the code, I would get asked questions on it) That is quite understandable as the information in the software documentation (at least the one that I read) indicates that you have to use a JMP with an LBL instruction. It does not say you can use an LBL alone. I think that the idea of a bookmark is great and can now see why it was used that way. I just would have liked to see documentation somewhere indicating that this was used for this purpose. n"}
{"text": "### Human: programmimg a controllogix PLC to talk device net to a OPC-G11S-DEV interface. Has anyone programmed a controllogix PLC with devicenet that has a GE drive on it. The GE drive devicenet interface is a OPC-G11S-DEV. I have loaded the EDS files into RSNetworx for devicenet but can not find any info on the number of inputs and outputs in devicenet to configure and where to map the run command, speed command, speed feedback, run and fault status, amps etc. to these IO points.Thanks ### Assistant: I never did an installation with this component.... :smileysurprised: Anyway, I have found a User Manual for that card at this link: OPC-G11S-DEV At page 20 of that manual, you may read that, by default, the EDS is configured with I/O assembly 21 (output) and 71(input); this means that you have 4 bytes input and 4 bytes output to configure as polled in your scanner.The description of bits and words contained in those instances are at page 25 / 26.There are also other two instances (102/103); you may use these if you need to define every data you want to excange with the drive.My suggestion is, at first, to use the default assembly and check for the proper functionality. Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thank you, spent some time reading this user nmanual and finally made some sense of it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: compactlogix scaling i,m looking for a nice easy bit of code for compactlogix to scale a 4-20mamp input and use to control speed of a pump via 1769-SM2 comms to a powerflex 4m ### Assistant: Have a look to the Sample Code Library in the following link (use the keyword scale as Title to search): Sample Code Scale Instructions If you have RS5000 version 16 or 17 you may import the Add On Instructions downloadable from that site.These instructions simply scale an input value (with a min/max range user defined) to an output value (also with min/max range) that you can send out to the PF4x via SM2 card. Also you may find out some explanations in the following Tecnnote, where you may find an alternative example with a CPT instruction: Aid 24424 Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic thanks i will have a look :smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View Expressions Question Is there any function in the expression editor to round, truncate or return a remainder? For example, I want to do something like this: Tag - int(Tag/60)*60 Where the result is the remainder of Tag/60. The 'int()' function would return just the integer part of the result of the expression within the ()'s. I can't seem to find any function to truncate or round or to return the remainder of a division. Does anyone know if there is such a thing or a way to do this? The end goal here is to convert an integer (representing a number of seconds) into Hours:Minutes:Seconds. Perhaps there is an even easier way to do this if FT View SE. Thanks ### Assistant: Here we are ! The Modulus calculation is possible with ViewSE.... below a link to the right technote for you. Aid 7771 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Thanks, fuzzy logic, that's exactly what I needed. (Not sure how I missed the modulus function tho.) I had to adjust the equations from the article because we are using the .acc from a timer function set to 1/1000's of a second time base. I found that an equation like (([CLX]Timer.acc/1000)%3600) doesn't work in FT View. Below are the actual equations that work for a .acc value in 1/1000's of a sec. Hours {[CLX]Timer.ACC}/3600000 Minutes({[CLX]Timer.ACC}%3600000)/60000 Seconds({[CLX]Timer.ACC}%60000)/1000 n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to reactivate Rslinx after change of motherboard I have this RsView 32 Runtime 32k with Rslinx. Last week the CPU is spoilt, I replace it with a new motherboard. After I install the new motherboard, it seem that the cannot connect to RSlinx OPC server. Can anyone help to solve this problem Thanks ### Assistant: check for the topics created in rslinx.can u tell me what actual error message you are getting while connecting to rslinx opc server?thanx Also if your licenses where tied to a network card, they may not match the mac address anymore, so you might want to rehost them. The error message is Connection to Server Failed ~ RSLinx OPC Server when I launches RSLinx's OPC Test Client . I can see that there is communication between the CPU and Device net. I have read through the technical knowledge it say that if any of the hardware change we need to reactivate the system by the Master disk have try to reactivate the master disk it show that nothing to activation. Why I cannot reactivate the system? Try out this tech id 29721.It may help.Thanxs:smileywink: Linkified for convenience - JHutch mook, Nothing to Move means that the key is not more on this Master Disk; either it is already on the PC, or it has missed. Which name do you see in RSlinx title bar ? RSLinx Lite ? Or another Name ?If it is RSLinx Lite, you can't use OPC server; you may try to Reset the Activation Disk, following this technote:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=36168 Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, i can see Rslinx lite at the title bar. Where is the product ID? Can i find it in the box? My product is ReView Enterprise Visualization. Is the serial number is the one label on the master disk and boxes? *Note the Product ID is only one character except for key RS5k_700.exe, and the serial number is not the Product ID mook, as I thought, RSLinx isn't activate. If you follow the procedure indicated in the link I posted last time, you need to connect to support site, and all what you need is the serial number, from Master disk or software box.Product ID should come in automatically in the Reset Activation tool when you select the drive where your Master Disk is (usually A: ) Otherwise, have a call to the Support Center to have some help on that...:smileywink: - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, Thank you for your information. I have try to use the master disk to activate the reset code. but in the system ID is show TP instead of QC. What do it mean by TP and QC? Do i need to link up the machine CPU with the RSView software to reset activation? Thank You Here the informations : System ID field Display only. This field displays information that will be requested by the Rockwell Software technician for use in generating the reset code. You only need the activation Master Disk, the software isn't needed. - fuzzy logic My master disk for Rslinx and RsView32 Runtime 32K is spoilt. do anyone know where can i get a copy of files for the master disk? Thank You mook, you have to call in the Support Center and, giving them yor serial numbers, I think they will replace your Master Disk with a new one.It is the only way; you cannot copy the activation from others. :smileysurprised: If you need EVmove or Reset .exe files, they are usually intalled in Start --> Programs --> Rockwell Software --> Utilities, in your PC(default path C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSUtil ) - fuzzy logic Fuzzy logic, Thank you for your information. I have reset the code. But i have another problem. I try to activate Rslinx by the master disk it show me a error  Activation File Corrupt - Invalid Serial Number. From the EvMove v4.7 - License Move utility it show that Destination Drive C: is having Error. Please advice. Thank you mook,tech id35759mayhelp.cheers:smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Step 5 Conversion to RSLogix 5000 HI Is there any utility for one to one conversion of a Step 5 project to any AB controller software. ### Assistant: No, there isn't an utility to convert, but you may find out an useful Application Guide on that at the link below: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/solutions/integratedarchitecture/resources4.html It is done for Step7, but I think that may apply also to your case. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DeviceNet Communication Errors ... I have a facility that uses DeviceNet valve controllers to open and close valves and to monitor valve status. When using Control Logix to monitor the DeviceFailureRegister for communication errors, we experience one communication error every 36-48 hours, the interval between occurrences is not consistent, it is not always the same node. The DeviceFailureRegister value goes to 1 and remains there for ~14 seconds and then returns to zero. There are approximately 30 valves on the DeviceNet net work, each has 2 bytes input, 1 byte output. Connection type is “polled”. I have changed the ISD from 5ms to 10 ms with little effect. The EPR value = 75, the baud rate is 125 kbd. The network is fairly compact, with not a lot of distance between nodes/scanner. I have a DeviceNet detective on the system that captures no errors. The manufacturer has suggested that that the time for all of the devices to respond is occasionally catching a device in the middle of some function that prevents it from responding in a timely manner to prevent a timeout condition. Some solutions I am considering is changing the interscan delay to 15 ms and/or changing the message type to Background Polled or Change of State. Any suggestions? Ideas? ### Assistant: It could be useful to know the firmware of your (I guess -DNB) card, the versions of the software (RS5000 and RSNetworx for dnet) and the supplier of the Dnet valves. Anyway, to prevent timeout in some cases was useful to put the Interscan Delay to 20ms.Have a look to the Aid 34447 ; there is some informations about differances between new and old version of DNB that need to be solved increasing the ISDAlso Cyclic/COS could be useful to have less traffic on the network and decrease the frequency of the error.Least but not last, sometimes it is only necessary to upgrade the firmware of the third party modules (valves), unless it is already the last one. Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic Thanks for the input.The following is a list of revs: 1756-CNB/D 5.271788-CN2DN 1.23RS5000 16.00.00RSNetworx 8.00.02 Supplier of Valve controller: Topworx. Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions. If the manufactor is saying that if the device is not responding while in the middle of a function, then really it's a game of not catching it during a function, or slowing down how long enough to wait for the device. With that being said, i would adjust the EPR and ISD to something around 150 EPR and 50 ISD... Just my suggestion. But I am jumping on that increase the scanner time as with what everyone else is thinking. Also the series C 1756 DNB is much faster then the series B... Keep that in mind for you know knowledge sake. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet from PLC5 just stops and restarts. We just had a flood and many rockwell parts got wet. Most including the PLC5-20/E's have been replaced. Plant is online and functional. The PLC's do all the work, SCADA is just for observation and setpoint entry.The plc's in question have both DH+ communication and Ethernet adapters The problem we are fighting with is that one of the PLC5s' that is a replacement and has never been wet will just stop responding to RSLinx, pings or HTTP. It just disappears from the planet all the while doing it's job just fine. Then it will come back and RSLinx will see it again as well as ping and HTTP. The one across from it which DID get wet, has been cleaned and dried and seems to work. It is connected to the same Ethernet switch that the first PLC is connected to and is Fiber from there to the building. This second PLC now has a bad DH+ port. I can connect my laptop directly to it, I can see everything else on the DH+ network but not the PLC itself. (This is Odd since that is how it was programmed to begin with, but I knew this PLC would be replaced anyway... once wet you just cant trust them anymore) Now, to make it worse, I was sitting between 2 SCADA terminals. These run RSLinx 2.51 with Intelliution AB and OPC drivers and iFix SCADA. The PLC dropped out on the terminal on the right (windows XP) but remained in communication with the (windows 2000) machine on the left.Ping, Http, and Rslinx all stopped working on the machine on the right but worked uninterrupted at the machine on the left. How can this be if there is a PLC communication issue? I think that this is, in a way, a PC driver problem. But that it is somehow being triggered by somethgin within this PLC. I will replace this PLC at the next shutdown (while not completely certain that it will fix this) but that may be a while so I am searching on some kind of insight as to how a PLC could possibly kill it's network connection to most PC's while both remaining functional as far as IO goes, and allowing another PC to work with it just fine. This is just bizarre ### Assistant: Splash,1.) Update your RSLinx to 2.52 or greater, 2.51 imho had problems browsing networks well.2.) What you are describing sounds like a bad router, network bandwidth issue, or device bandwidth issue. Especially your description of how one PC was working fine but the otherone dropped off. Question did any of your network components get wet? Are they replaced? Troubleshooting optionsIs the anyone who knows how to do packet capture at your site, if so, they might be able to help isolate the problem. Use a network monitoring application other then packet capture software to check bandwidth, etc Instead of ping command tracert and see if a router might be dropping off. etc. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How do I change serial numbers in FT View SE server? I upgraded from 100 display (RSVSESRV.100) to 250 display (RSVSESRV.250) for Factory Talk View SE server. I have successfully activated the new serial number. How do I change the serial number for the package to get it to use the 250 display s/n instead of the 100 display s/n? ### Assistant: I know it's a registry entry... Ah Knowledgebase ID 39213 has it HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionUninstall{32FF6F27-37C3-46E9-B39E-56CD420415D1} I would like to skip the restart of the server box if possible. What service or services do I need to restart for the FactoryTalk View SE Server to reread the activation once I change the key? There are a bunch of them that start with Rockwell, like Rockwell Tag Server and several with Rockwell HMI like Rockwell HMI Framework. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS viewME files into RSVIEW32 dear allis it possible to open rsveieME projects to open / convert for RSVIEW32 ? thanks ragni ### Assistant: ragni, I'm not sure to have well understood your post.... :smileysurprised: If you want to open an RSView32 application with ViewME, it isn't possible due to format incompatibility. - fuzzy logic Sounds like you are trying to go from ME to RSView32 ... no you can't do that. JHutch So the summary is either way, no conversion is possible. :( n"}
{"text": "### Human: Slow communication between panel view plus 1500 and PLC 5/40 c My system has got one panelview Plus 1500 and PLC 5/40 c, communicating in serial DF1.I have fast changing IOs like sheet counter photo sensor . But these tags are updated much slower in PV.Tag update rate for all screens are kept minimum 0.05 second.and im using direct tag referencing.Baud rate for the DF1 is 19.2k ### Assistant: sumesh, which is the View ME version you're using?Have you applied all the available patches to your system?Have you downloaded the latest firmware to PVP ? After that, take in consideration that serial DF1 is not the best way to get fast responses... also consider that sometimes keeping the tag update rate to the minimum, gives worst results, due to the fact that you order to the PVP to update all the tags in that screen in that time... Try to optimize your displays, for example pointing to tags that are in an array instead of around in the PLC memory (if you don't have already done it :smileywink: ) Also have a look to the KB in the link: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=36745 - fuzzy logic Everything Fussy suggests above is good information and correct.And sometimes the answer is in the question. This being RS232 protocol, therefore a two state system so baud rate in this case is equal to the bit rate. From memory (maybe wrong) a character for DF1 protocol is 11 bits (8,+ 1 start, 1 parity 1 stop). So number of characters per second is 19200/11 = 1745 characters per second. Lets say all your tags are in one data file and are integer N7. So lets look at one optimized packet of 100 (default optimization), plus some start of message and end of message and ACK and NAK. Lets guess (again without getting the DF1 protocol manual out). 120 characters. So approximately 1745/120 = 14.5 packets per second (or about 1450 tags per second). So in 0.05 seconds about 72 tags. So if you have more than 72 tags (approximately) you are not going to update at 0.05 of a second. As in life - just becasue you ask - does not mean you get. Yorkshire Man is right on a very important concept. Whenever anyone talks about speed issues on a network such as update rates. We need to go back to our wire-time calculations.In addition to if you are pulling more then 72 characters, another thing since you compared the update rate to the IO, is how fast is your IO update rate. Because nearly every high speed counter I have come acrossed has speed of 32Khz or more in which case no HMI in this world will keep up with. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to concantenate numeric value into string display expression Hi, I'm trying to build an expression in a string display so that it looks something like this:(70 - 90) My expression currently looks like this: ( + {[CLX]Value1} +  -  + {[CLX]Value2} + )FT View Studio accepts the expression without complaints but it doesn't work in FT View Client. The diagnostic list say cannot add a number to a string. Is there a way to accomplish this? Thanks! ### Assistant: Yes you will get this error because you are trying to allocate a numeric value to a string. A way to achive this (without resorting to VBA) is to select the ‘Text’ Object (menu – Objects – Drawing – Text) (or the capital ‘A’ icon). Double click on your new ‘text’ object and use the insert variable button to insert the two numeric tags and add your padding text as required. So for your example (using my tags NumericNumeric1 and Numeric2) will give: ( /*N:5 NumericNumeric1 NOFILL DP:0*/ - /*N:5 NumericNumeric2 NOFILL DP:0*/ ) Note: You do not need the “” marks to donate text because you will be using a Text Object and it knows it’s all text. So the syntax /*N:5 NumericNumeric1 NOFILL DP:0*/ is taking the tag NumericNumeric1 and displaying it’s value formatted to 5 characters, no fill characters NOFILL and no decimal point DP:0 TavMaster, it is not possible to Concatenate a Numeric Value to a String in a String Display (it is possible to use either a Numeric Value alone or some Strings Concatenated) A solution is to move the values you need to display, to a string tag in CLX (using DTOS instruction - see screenshot below).Then you'll have the following, where the red tags are String Data Type containing the numbers from your DINT tags:  (  + {[CLX]Str_Timer_Acc} +  -  + {[CLX]Str_Timer_Pre} +  )  ...and this works fine.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks to both of you for the suggestions! I went with yorkshire's solution because it doesn't require additional PLC coding. Ok,Yorkshire won this match, I accept the defeat... :smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy: may be next time.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View Studio ME vs RS View Studio ME Are there any major differences between Factory Talk View Studio ME vs RS View Studio ME, besides the name change. I am contemplating on updating from RSView Studio ME V4.00 (CPR7) to FTView Studio ME V5.00. Are projects compatible or need to be converted from one platform to the other? I downloaded the Rockwell update 9701VWSTMENE , but upon installation I was prompted to uninstall the old RSView Studio application first. I am not sure if it is worth the hassle? Dirk ### Assistant: bieloberg, there are many differances between the two software versions: First of all, as you wrote, the name; here another post that tries :smileytongue: to give an explanation... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=IndCtrl&message.id=244#M244 Then the CPR (Coordinated Product Release) is the 9 (RSViewStudio was CPR7); also another link to a technote with the news. Aid 44139 The two versions cannot stay together on the same PC, as you've seen it is necessary to uninstall the old one first.When you try to open a v4.00 application, new software need to revert it to the v5.00 (and than it isn't possible to reopen it with RSView Studio v4.00 again).You can save/convert a .MER file from View Studio 5.00 to an earlier version (4.00, 3.20, 3.10, 3.00), if you need. Have a look to all the features in the new version in this technote: Aid 44333 There are also some limitations using APA files (archive). Also another technote: :smileysurprised: Aid 50502 Anyway, being aware of all the above, I think that the upgrade is the best choice... also to include all patches that solve some anomalies, and to have new functionalities available. Least but not last, a link to interesting videos that show how to install/upgrade new version 5.00 in the best manner... Aid 44618 Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic As far as the name change ... it means nothing. The software just changed names during the v4.0 release from RSView to FactoryTalk View. The software itself made zero changes. When v5.0 was released, it was released only as FactoryTalk View. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: I/O Chassis Comm Moduel Requirement in CLX Enhanced Redundany System It's clear that in CLX enhanced redundant system redundant chassis pair needs 1756-CN2/CN2R (Ser.B) and 17560-EN2T enhanced comm modules and 1756-RM redundant module. But in I/O chassis, the standard comm module (1756-CNB/CNBR) is compatible with the enhanced redundant platform? ### Assistant: Attached is an image of a possible Enhanced Redundancy configuration; the limitation is only in the redundancy chassis pairs, if you are using new -RM modules; it is shown that in the remote chassis you may use standard CNB/CNBR (as you of course may use standard Flex I/O cnet adapter, standard Drive Cnet card etc.) Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700S User Sets Hi! Does anybody know if it's possible to use a feature like PF70/700 User Sets in PF700S drives? I need to run two different motors with just one PF700S and need to reconfigure the drives using a digital input.Thanks.Marcinio - PU2MAS ### Assistant: PF700s actually doesn't have this feature... You can only save to HIM (copycat) the active user set and than restore it, but it isn't possible to do this via digital input.Also you can use Drive Explorer/executive, but still it isn't possible to switch via Digital input. You can do it through DriveLogix 5730. Is there a function at DriveLogix to do this? Any tip on how to do?Thanks! You may use the User Defined I/O data to write new settings inside the parameters you need; these data are already prepared for use in the Controller Tags, when you create a new Drive in the I/O Configuration.You only need to link them to the parameters you want to change dinamically. Have a look to the User Manual in the link: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/20d-um003_-en-p.pdf Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can't see CPU's or backplanes in RSLinx Hello all! Having some trouble with RSLinx. I'm running 2.52.00.17 (CPR 9). I can see Ethernet Ports (such as 1769-L32E Ethernet Port), but I can't see past the port. I've checked my EDS files, and I've got everything I should need. Checked the FAQ's, etc, and didn't find this problem listed. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks,Tedinski. ### Assistant: I had this problem with ControlLogix ethernet cards once. I could see the ethernet connection, ping it, etc., but could not see anything past it. I checked my EDS files and they were correct. So, I removed all the EDS files for that particular hardware and re-added them and it started working again. The EDS file for 1769-L32E Ethernet Port of the right firmware version (I mean the firmware of your processor) is needed; also verify to have the EDS for Compactlogix System (the Backplane) and, if you have both already installed,as jmat has suggested, try to remove them and reinstall. Here a link to the second EDS I mentioned:http://www.ab.com/networks/eds/cgi-bin/detail.pl?file=XX/0001006C00380100.eds Be aware to close RSLinx and reopen it after any EDS installation/removing (also if it is open as service, shutdown it and restart). Below is a screenshot of the CompactLogix System EDS view in Unregistration tool. Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Going with the above, I have seen this with all sorts of bridging and communication devices. Where if an EDS is close by not quiet 100% there, it looks right, the system thinks it's right, but it's not right. I've also seen cases where newly-downloaded comm module EDS files wouldn't take, even after stopping/restarting services or even rebooting. I had to stop the Harmony service, delete the Harmony.xxx (RSLinx cache?) files and reboot and then all was well. The files are C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSCommonHarmony.hrc C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSCommonHarmony.rsh Good luck!Dale n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 70 ON COMMON DC BUS? HI ALLCAN PF 70 RUN ON COMMON DC BUS?DO WE HAVE DOCUMENTS FOR THIS?THNXS IN ADVANCE ### Assistant: PF70 has not DC bus terminals, therefore it cannot works with common dc bus.You may consider PF700. thanks for the reply but is there nyway by which we can get it done through powerflex 70 only? I know of several instance, ours included, in which AB supplie custom open-framed drives that had a common DC bus. Most of the industry is trying to get away from a common DC bus because of the difficulty in maintaining the drives and because AC drives are so inexpensive these days. If you must use a common DC bus, you may need to get a special order from AB. fordtt, don't know what you are talking about Most of the industry is trying to get away from a common DC bus because of the difficulty in maintaining the drives and because AC drives are so inexpensive these days., because that has nothing to do with it, it's got nothing to do with how cheap drives are either. In fact most manufacturers are making it easier to common bus. With loads that are constantly regenerating common bus or a regenerative system (not using DB resistors)....in my opinion is a must. Let me ask a question, if I have a constantly regenerating load, does it matter that I buy a high efficiciency motor and burn it off to a resistor or burn it in motor heat with a standard motor (I'ts amazing to me that I have witnessed energy saving standards that madated an efficient motor be put in an application for a motor which regenerated all day long to a huge db resistor)? To me it's a matter of what you are doing to recycle electricity that is constantly being regenerated! I will agree with you on contact Rockwell to see what they can or can't do. Let me add this, depending on the system it's actually easier to maintain sometimes as a common bus (load sharing) system. Sorry, still don't see as many new common DC bus schemes in place. Notice I didn't that there weren't any...but he's talking about the pflex 70 which typically are used for smaller loads (less than 50HP). We DO in fact, use common DC bus systems in large drive applications. Large HP drives usually come with options to convert to a common DC bus, esp. ABB, GE, and Siemens. Off-the-shelf AC drives are becoming less expensive, with more configuration options, more network options, than ever before. Also, why would you make a big deal out of putting an engergy efficient motor on a VFD? The drives can deliver 100% torque at 0% speed. A high-efficiency motor is only highly efficient if its ran toward the top of the motor curve...not at a lower speed. This has digressed past anyone's benefit but the point is, if you want a common DC system...find a drive that can be converted, not convert a drive that isnt designed to. ... I meant to post this with the last one but couldn't find it. We did a project last year with a common DC configuration to help mitigate upstream harmonics thoughout the mill. Check out tech id 17712 and also attached is a link from AB but it uses the 1336 drives instead: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/at/drives-at002_-en-p.pdf Hi! PF70 Frame E have +DC/-DC conections available. Please see 20A-UM001L-EN-P.PDF user manual page 1-9, figure 1.4.I don't know if these terminals are after or before the DC-BUS pre-charge, but you could find out with some measurements. Maybe tech support could aswer it. Maybe I'm wrong, but these terminals seems to be only Test Points, not DC input... just, frame E has two terminals dedicated in the terminal block... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy,does that mean i can measure dc bus voltage level but can not connect it in a common dc bus configuration? Really I can't give an answer to the why these terminals are in the terminal block (maybe better to ask to Rockwell Drives guys). :smileysad:Anyway, I can suppose that there is no way to use that as a DC input teminals (as common DC bus configuration) also because there is no documentation available for that.In fact, in the Application Guide mentioned some posts ago in this thread, only you may find PF700 (or 40P...). Indeed it is quite old (2007) :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1786-RPCD Topology and Usage To extend Cnet distance, which of the attached configurations is OK? Resized attached image smaller so it fit better on the page - JHutch ### Assistant: Have a look to the attached image; as you see, the configuration number two is documentedas correct in order to extend network distances. - fuzzy logic I have problem to edit my previous post.... :smileymad: Anyway, the above post image shows a series connection thru repeaters, to have a network much longer. We have used sometimes your Configuration 1 instead, for example in a case where we had an installed cnet with 16 nodes and a trunk line of 740 mt. already working; then we've added 5 nodes plus 100 mt. cable and the network had started to drop random nodes... we have putted only one RPA and one RPCD in the middle of the network and we have solved the problem !This cnet is working since three years without problems. Only be aware to respect maximum length as shown in the attached graphic and to install proper 75 ohm terminations on both segments and also on the RPCD channel that you don't use. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Transfering data to ControlLogix without using RSLinx I have been migrating my product from microprocessor to PLC control. The last hurdle is getting my customers design files (x,y data for motion) to the processor. I invested 6K on a crappy DDE/OPC interface which locked me into Linx OEM and didn't work. I have looked into Recipe Plus via ViewME. Are there any other options?Ideally it would be via a compact flash in the processor or PV1000+.Option 2 would be via windows based transfer or even processor driven access to c:.Help! ### Assistant: mmhhh... I can't see easy solutions to that... 1. Use RSLinx DDE server with macros from Excel2. ViewME with Recipe ActiveX (only on PC or PanelviewPlus CE), loading from text file and downloading to PLC (it seems quite easy to realize)3. Most complicated - DF1 protocol over serial port, with all the limitations you may think about :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Also another way, maybe... Expensive, I think, and quite complicated... adding a Prosoft module in the CLX backplane: see the link. http://www.psft.com/prosoft/products/for_rockwell_automation/platform/controllogix/mvi56_admnet - fuzzy logic Yep, I looked into the 1756-MVI and the places that took me. No thanks.The problem with the recipe plus is I'm not sure what the file looks like. I'll hold out for some more responses but look into recipe plus some more. I was editing my previous post with three solutions, it was imprecise... :smileymad:You can use an ActiveX realized for FactoryTalk ViewME...you may check for it here: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=20462 With this you can import a .csv file into the runtime and then download it to controller tags. This may works for you; Recipe Plus I think is too complicated and not flexible to use in that manner. - fuzzy logic I know you said 'without RSLinx'; however - You could you the free tool (comes with RSLogix 5000 install) or from here: ID 32503It does require RSLinx Classic (all versions except Lite, ie OPC required). Also V17 of RSLogix 5000 comes with a tool now to do the same thing (again part of RSLogix 5000 install).However it works with all Logix and PLC types. Also very expensive, but you can use this: http://www.oldi.com/xcoupler_index.htmTransfer directly from/to Logix from/to any database. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Transaction Manager: VMWARE Our facility is thinking about using blade center servers running VMWARE with a variety of Rockwell Software Products (RsSql, Transaction manager, RSMacc, RsLinx & etc...). Does anyone have any experience using Transaction Manager in a VMWARE environment? ### Assistant: We have been trying to get AssetCentre to run under on the Server under VMWare. So far it all works until we try to install the client software on our own PC. We haven't been able to get clients to work when AssetCentre Server is installed on VMWare. Also, getting support is tough, because as soon as the tech finds out that the server is on VMWare then they start pointing fingers that the issue is VMWare. We are currently working on putting the software on a server not using VMWare to prove that it works or not. As a side note, all of our Licenses are running perfectly under a VMWare instance. I don't have any specific information on AssetCentre, but from experience I can say that if VMWare is going to give problems, it is usually either in device drivers or in networking (the latter is where you're having trouble). Device drivers are usually not a big deal with Rockwell products... if you need to disable the sound card because the driver doesn't like VMWare ... oh, well. Networking though? That can cause problems. It'll be interesting to see how this works out for you, Craig. JHutch Although I have not ran Asset Center or Transaction Manage in VMWare, nearly all of my Rockwell Software, I have running in VMWare. A few things learned along the way. 1.) Don't use the dongle activation, it doesn't work. Mount the FTA license to a mac address or disk instead. 2.) Watch your networking. A lot of people toss out NAT so they can have multiple VMWare images on the same machine easily... that NAT will kill your client server relationships. (unless you have the a client VMWare image that you are hosting on a TS hosting that virtualized client.) 3.) Not all drivers will work, particularly anything old using direct addressing like a DNet card... just do all your communications on ethernet and it will be much easier. 4.) As for pointing fingers. When working with multiple products like this, I always get both partys on the line. So get VMWare's Support on the line and Rockwell's to collaborate. Otherwise you could get the pointing fingers syndrome. We run RSLogix, RSLinx, RSSQL, RSNetworx Suite, FTView SE etc on VMWare mainly in design environment. Regarding AssetCentre, our server is running on a physcial machine but two of the clients run in VMWare. The only problem I had was networking issue. I am not a networking gru but If use NAT in VMWare, you are likely to have problems with any multicast/UDP traffic. (Someone please correct me here if I am talking non-sense.) So we run most of our VMWare images in Bridged mode instead. im developing a system now in vmware. it is rsview32 with RAD server, messenger and trendX on it. so far the main problem we have is the log in. if you log out, it stops the services. since you have to do everything at console level, leaving the console logged in is an issue. once I try to remote intoit with the same credentials it creates a separate instance. Ican see the services running on the server but not the actual programs. many times since setting up the vmware server i have gotten onsite to update graphics and had the server logged out for random time periods. im not really seeing much benefit over using a vmware server over a standalone workstation locally. so far, it has been a time waster for both me and the customers IT dept. Unfortunately, the Assetcentre Server and AssetCentre Client on VMware does not work properly because the Os on VMware does not start all services in correct order what is very important for the FTAC service. That is only the reason why AssetCentre Server/Client is officially not supporting in VMware environment As of right now, NO Rockwell Software products are supported in VMWare. Can they run with some level of confidence? We have found inconsistent results and situations when running Bizware products and FTAssetCentre in VMWare. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Who to delete recipes from HMI Client? Hi all, does anyone know how to delete the recipes from the RSViewSE V4.0 HMIClient? in StandAlone application. I try to delete the file .rcp through VisualBasic, this delete the file but is not removed from the project. I found a tool (SEAddcomponent) to add components to a project, Will there be a SEDelComponent? ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a manner to do that, at the moment. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic PsyCrow, the only way to delete a recipe would be to have the SE client computer run RSView Studio. Theoretically you could configure FT security to prevent an operator from making changes to things he should not. Not a good solution, but that's the only one. I really miss the RSView32 object model in cases like these :smileysad: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Memory Module 1762-MM1RTC Hi Mr. Fuzzy Logic... I'm sory, don't found the board wich you told about...But my trouble is the follow: I need proced a download to a module memory, is this posible? My program has so much strings data, and it so large for the controler memory... Did you understand? Rafael... ### Assistant: Rafa, unfortunately, there is no way to expand the PLC memory using external Memory Module... that module is only for application Backup. :smileysad: Your PLC has 6k total memory, but maximum 2k for data... only you may check if it is possible to delete some tags address that are not used (maybe you have created a data file with 250 tags and you use only few of those tags in the program) Have a look to the image posted... using this feature of the software, it is easy to check from where you may recover some space. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Ok Fuzzy Logic... I Understood... Thanks for help me...I will check if is possible to delete some data from my program...Thanks again... Rafa... n"}
{"text": "### Human: IAB 7.3 problems with stratix 8000 Hi ! I',m using IAB 7.3 and there is a problem when I try to connect devices to a stratix 8000 with two expansion modules (+16 ports). I am only allowed (by the software)to connect 8 ports, then the option to connect more dissapears. Is anything I am not doing well ? Thanks ### Assistant: You're right... I get the same issue... :smileymad: It seems to be a bug... only workaround I've found is to add the new devices from the Network Tab, dragging them to drop in the Network view. Then you may configure your node as usual in the Hardware view :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compact Logix Setting Ethernet Parameter from PanelView Have anybody wrote a a code in RS Logix5000 to set IP parameters from PanelView for L35E or L32E controllers? ### Assistant: I hope to have well understood your request...:smileytongue: So you want to change the IP address of a CompactLogix Ethernet/IP port from a Panelview ... Have a look to the following technote:Aid 27917 I think you may write the IP address and other parameters requested for MSGs, configuring tags in Panelview, add some logix in RS5000 to move the appropriate values to the right tags and then you may start the CIP messages from a button. Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 70 Parameter Upload/Download From Control Logix PLC I am controlling several PF 70 VFD's via Ethernet using the 22-Comm-E module and would like to upload and download the entire drive parameter set from the Control Logix PLC to make drive replacement easier. Does anyone have PLC code written for this application? ThanksGreg ### Assistant: Greg, this Premier Integration feature(ADR - Automatic Device Replacement) was planned for V17 of RSLogix5000, but I think it has been moved out to next versions of software, as I can't get informations on that in the V17 release notes.This will solve the needing to connect to the substituted drives to download parameters using RS5000 Premier Drive Integration or Drive Executive; it will do the parameter download automatically when the devices become active on the network and its key corresponds (also you need PF drives with last firmare version in order to support this function...i.e. PF700 VC 6.002 and newer, PF70 I can't find notice on ADR in the last frn) Anyway, to do this using ladder is difficult...you have only CIP messages, but they write only one parameter at a time... :smileysad: I found a technote (really is for PF4x) that explane how to use a MSG instruction to have more parameters read/write.Aid 50148 Really I don't know if it works also for PF7x...if you want you may try, having as reference the 20-COMM user manual in the link, at page C16. User Manual But still this is not a simple and quick way to get what you need... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Tag browsing What we have is a L64 processor that is deep into the yellow of the used memory. The system has already 3 processors 2 for motion and the third for the logic and recipe information. The the recipe tags are 6 UDT's that contain 50 potential Models for a total of 300 Recipes. These 6 UDT's use about 10 M of data. We have come up with two solutions and would like some feed back:The current batch look through UDT 1 for a match then UDT 2 then 3 so on so on till it finds a match. It then copies the Data to a tracking area that follows the part though the system. This way each we can have differnt models with different options through out the line. Solution 1:Can I have the batch search a fourth Processor tags as if it were it's own that would contain the Model data tags directly over the back plain and copy the matching Models information to its Tracking area. Solution 2:Create a Produced tag in the original Processor that asks the Data processor for model information. Then the Data Processor would search the 6 UDT areas for a match. When one is found copy the Model Data to a produced tag along with a complete hand-off bit. Then the Original Processor would consume this data after seeing the complete bit. Then copy this information to the necessary Tracking area. After completing the copy clear the hand-off tag. There’s probably a bit more to the steps of solution 2. I’m confident we could get it to work the main question is about solution 1. Is that possible to brows the tags of a different processor as if they where you own tags. ### Assistant: capple, I think solution 2 is the only. It isn't possible to browse directly tags that resides in another controller using RS5000... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I though so but I knew I would get a concrete answer here Thanks The Produced/Consumed tags did not work. The size of 1 Model_Data is 20K. So now I am using a Message (CIP Data table Read) now my dilemma is to change the Source Element during Run Time. I need this to be an Indirect Tag but it did not accept one. So far the work around I found was to make a pointer array of 300 Strings then call the pointer that contains the required String and copy it to the Mesage_Control.RemoteElement. Now the question is how do I eliminate the array of 300 strings and just make some kind of move instruction to move a tag like:S001.Model_Data[Indirect Number] <<<< UPDATE>>>>I came up with a solution and thought I would share Using the DTOS and INSERT Instructions.I haven’t cleaned this up to a final project but here is what I tested. // Update Line A Model Dataif S100.Batch.Data.Order[1].Model_Number[0]=S001.Model_Data[1].Model_Number then Batch_Search.Control[1].Search_Required:=0; Line_A_Search:=0;else cop(S100.Batch.Data.Order[1].Model_Number[0],Batch_Search.Model_Name[1],1); Batch_Search.Control[1].Search_Required:=1; Line_A_Search:=1;end_if; // Prepare MSG Remote Data Location If Line_A_Search then if Model_Location.S001>0 and Model_Location.S001<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S001,SourceB[1]); Insert(SourceA[1],SourceB[1],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S001.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S002>0 and Model_Location.S002<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S002,SourceB[2]); Insert(SourceA[2],SourceB[2],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S002.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S003>0 and Model_Location.S003<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S003,SourceB[3]); Insert(SourceA[3],SourceB[3],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S003.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S004>0 and Model_Location.S004<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S004,SourceB[4]); Insert(SourceA[4],SourceB[4],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S004.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S005>0 and Model_Location.S005<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S005,SourceB[5]); Insert(SourceA[5],SourceB[5],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S005.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S006>0 and Model_Location.S006<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S006,SourceB[6]); Insert(SourceA[6],SourceB[6],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S006.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; else cop(SourceB[0],SourceB[1],6);end_if; Then I use a MSG to get the Value of the desired Model_Data n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 4 Motor overload Current setting (P033) What should parameter P033 (Motor overload current) be set to relative to the motor nameplate current?Somebody told me to enter motor nameplate current times 1.5 which seems high to me. ### Assistant: AJZ, as per PowerFlex 4 User Manual, P033 takes already care of a percentage over the Current you set there... so you have to put in the Motor Nameplate Current, and the drive will fault if the value of this parameter is exceeded by 150% for 60s or 200% for 3s. Seems that they use this default calculation to have only one parameter to manage the OL instead of a parameter to define the Motor NP Current and another parameter to define the Overload Current, living to you the responsability to define the correct value to put inside... :smileytongue: Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Extracting data from RSView32 into Excel or Access All, I am a newbie to RSView32. I am being tasked to generate various reports contaning KPI's like downtime, ### Assistant: Just a small correction – RSView32 does not run on a VB script – rather it has available VBA if a user requires scripting. I would suggest avoiding the use of VBA if you are not comfortable using it, and do not want to invest the time to learn it. Rather play to your strengths and use SQL. How about using the extensive data logging options (periodic, on change etc) to log any data required by the reports you have to write (this can be placed in an SQL DB, via ODBC connector). Then write reports (or MS reporting services) in SQL to using the logged data to provide the reports you require. XLReporter from sytech is one way. thereportcompany.com if you are intent on doing it all yourself, there are resources for vba online, as well as the help file to figure out the syntax/ commands needed to open the excel file, give it focus and dump the data. after writing a report that populated everyhour for a year and trying to troubleshoot the 25th hour hit at midnight, i bought the xlreporter program and set it up. pretty slick. they were encompass for a long time, not sure if they still are. if not, sorry for bringing it up. I need to solve the same task to create KPIs reports from RSView32 Server. I consider if it's possible to use standard dbf files and through ODBC get the data to MS Excel. I created ODBC system DSN but it does not work. Dbf files are open and quicker solution than SQL. Do you have any of you any experience to get data from dbf historical logs into MS Excel? I would like to use SQL Server Express but I'm afraid of performance of Server's hardware. Not sure why the ODBC option is - 'does not work'; however it will be slower as there is a buffering period before updating the database. But this option is more for reporting rather that real-time reports. You can reference: ID 46314 RSView32 - Edit and Save DataLog (DBF) file in Excelhttp://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46314&p_created=1195193114 This is a manual process - however it could be automated - but guess what that brings us back to writing VBA code. SQL Server Express is not a good option for generating repoerts from, unless is only local low level reporting. Don't know if this will give you the format you want, but there is a way to get data from a datalog model into Excel without VBA. You could configure the datalog model to log to ODBC, then embed an ODBC query within Excel I've used the solution from tech note 29789 with great success. You can even filter the data so you don't see those annoying B and E records marking the beginning and ending of logging. It also allows you to see the tag name instead of the tag index number. It's been a great solution for me, maybe it will work for you as well. Linkified for convenience - JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: BRU 500 and motor interface Would someone help me by giving, or diecting, a file call EC COMM which helps to interface the IBM compatible with the BRU 500? Many thanks ### Assistant: I believe this software is available, but not on any web site for download. My suggestion would be to asked the question through the Knowledge base. In that way, a case number will be assigned to it and a response/email could get it to you. I'm agree with deekster... also consider that the product is still covered by TechConnect Support, as you may see at following link, under Legacy Hardware products. :smileysurprised: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/services/remote/techconnect/coverage.html - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Cannot edit graphics Our client upgraded from RSView SE CPR7 to CPR9 and the HMI server seems to be working well. I have also upgraded my Studio to CPR9. Previously we VPN'd to modify the graphics. Now after the upgrade, I cannot pull up any graphics to modify. It starts to pull them up and then Studio exits. Just closes....no alerts, errors, or anything. Nothing in the diagnostic viewer on the server either. I can remove graphics from the project, add users, etc. but not modify graphics. It even bombs during migration of another graphic. The DCOM settings on the new server are different than before. Under COM Security>Access Permissions>Default there is only SELF and SYSTEM where the original configuration there was also NETWORK and INTERACTIVE. Seems we had to add these during the initial configuration. An engineering/HMI station that also has STudio loaded can modify the graphics without any problem. I'm thinking there is a permission problem with the DCOM security but not sure. I can type the IP address http://10.10.10.10/rsviewse and get the RSView IIS page so it seems IIS is working ok...also the plant is running from the new HMi server so everything on their side seems to be working ok. Anyone have any ideas....? ### Assistant: If this was a DCOM problem, I might expect to see an error either on the client's or server's Windows System Event log. However, it wouldn't hurt to change these settings, reboot and see what happens. I tend to use tech note 36629 - it's overkill most of the time, but if you make those changes and it works, you can work backwards to tighten DCOM security. If you have the SE client installed on this Studio computer, you might try connecting to the HMI server and see what happens. If someone applied the patches from tech notes 51386 or 53972, that would have changed the graphics format. See tech note 55416. So maybe these graphics are incompatible with your version of Studio? You might also try deleting your temporary internet files, though if this was the problem, I'd expect to see an error popping up. Hope one of these solves your problem. Linkified for convenience - JHutch Thanks for the tech ID note. After perusing around on the HMI server and looking at the installed packages, I found the culprit....the RA rep loaded CPR9 SR1 (Service Release 1) of FactoryTalk Services Platform. The patch he said was installed actually ISN'T installed since the roll-up patch for FTSP is for CPR9 and not CPR9 SR1...the patch is incompatible. So...I uninstalled my version of factorytalk services and reinstalled factoryTalk services platform CPR9 SR1 and it worked fine. Thanks again for the response. When someone else reconfigures a working system and then you have problems...it's tough to find where to begin as everything has to be treated as suspect. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Active X in RsView Studio Hello! I need to add the activeX iscopeX in RsView Studio.But when I try to add it, I have to browse an OCX file. I think that i need the iplotlibrary.ocx.Is this OK?Where can i find it?? Thanks ### Assistant: Hi... I don't know this ActiveX but, around in the www I've found some link to evaluation copies of that. http://www.componentsource.com/products/iocomp-ultra-pack-activex-vcl/downloads.html http://www.iocomp.com/Downloads/Evaluations.aspx Or here to order it.... http://www.iocomp.com/shop/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=12&cat=ActiveX%2FVCL But I guess you already know this links...:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 600 standard keypad software We have a 2711-k6c1 panel view. This one is a 16 bit unit and does not have the PCMIA port on the back. We need to upload the application file from the unit. Does anyone know which software we use for this? Was there a PB16? ### Assistant: Yes Buck, there was... older Panelbuilder version (if I weel remember until 2.60 ...or 2.80) was 16 bit.After that, from 3.20 version, it become Panelbuilder32. You need that older software for your Panelview. If you have not, try to call in the Technical Support to see what it is possible to do. - fuzzy logic Thanks. I thought there was. These days though I seem to suffer from CRS. Anyway, does turn out the firmware version of the PV is 2.6. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Drives in 2-wire control on controlnet? I have 18 nos of drives Pf-70 on controlnet and they are being hardwired controlled using 2 wire control.Now i can start the drive from panel but after changing the drive reference to controlnet it doesn,t get start command from clx on controlnet.The drive shows stop owner as digital input.any solutions? ### Assistant: Hi vikas... please check the following parameter, if you haven't a wire connected to terminal 1....or connect this terminal to +24Vdc.By default it is configured as STOP, so the drive cannot start if it is not closed (STS flashes orange) - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC Flex ethernet/IP integration Hello ! I was thinking in integrating SMC flex with 20-COMM-E (ethernet/ip) in a project but wasn't able to add them to my IAB project. I know they can work, but it's very extrange that they don't appear in the list of ethernet/ip devices !!. If somebody knows anything about please reply.Thanks !! ### Assistant: just check whether your ip address configured in i/p devices is correct.it may be a reason. Hi josepss, indeed this issue happens also on my IAB....:smileysad: You have the possibility to create a Generic Ethernet/IP device, defining for it the Name, Description, Hardware Image, Network Image etc... using Configure Device.Procedure is to add a Generic Ethernet/Ip device, right click on its image, Configure device, define all you need, export.Then go to User Device, Import and you have your device available.Remember that the .png images of the object should be inside IAB Custom Graphics folder in order to work. If you want I may send you the export file and the icons, just to start, and then you may modify them as you want; just send me a Private message in the forum with your e-mail. Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thank you fuzzy logic. The sollution proposed for you is working ! :smileyvery-happy: EDIT: Removed personal name at fuzzy's request. - JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Best Way to Fire an Event Based on a Tag Change? Over the years when using RSView32, I have often needed to fire an event based on a tag value changing (i.e.: Tag1). In the past, I would handle this by adding an additional storage memory tag to store the last value (i.e.: Tag1LastValue) of the tag I am interested in monitoring - my expression in the Event Editor would then be Tag1 <> Tag1LastValue. The problem with this approach is that it requires an additional memory tag for each data change event I would like to monitor. Is there a better way? Thanks! ### Assistant: Using the Event Detector, it isn't possible to fire an event on a Value Change as you would; following a note from KB that explain how this kind of event is limited: The Event Detector does not support a value change event. If the tag value being monitor transitions between 0 and some value, then it is possible to use the Event Detector in a value change mode. If the tag value is changing and always results in a true condition, (true represents any non-zero number), then event can only fire once. Only way is to use some VBA code containing the VBA Event <ValueChange>. Two KB notes can be useful for you: Aid 5261 - Event Detector VS VBAAid 3325 - VBA sample to catch a fast event Anyway, I don't think this solution will let you use less memory than your usual method... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks for the response fuzzy logic... I was not aware of this method to handle changes with VBA (normally, I would place a text box on the screen (hidden by color), link it to a tag, and then use the text box's change event). I will definitely give this alternative method a shot. Thanks again. Still surprised that Rockwell does not have a simple Data Change event though! n"}
{"text": "### Human: ISA71.04 and Tropicalised Treated Standard Hi all experts, anyone can confirm me ControlLogix is certified with the above standard? If so, anyone can provide the certificate/reference for me to download? Other Allen Bradley's PLC have these standards as well? ### Assistant: b43165, have a look to the following links; some products meet that standard, but in order to specifically know which products are available, then please contact your Rockwell representative to get more infos on products you need. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/pp/gmse00-pp011_-en-e.pdf Aid 21727 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Time Problem in datalog and Datalog problem. Hello, I'm a new member at this forum. And I hope that I choose the write topic. We use RSVieuw 32 - Works 5000 at our company. I'm currently trying to make the data log that’s recorded by RSVieuw visible in Excel. Everything is working well! But I have one question. When I open the DBF file (database file) in Excel There seems to be a problem with the time registration. We log every minute. This works fine until the hour ends. Then the time registration go's to 0:00 and will be like this for 12 minutes. This error occurs every hour. After the 12 minutes the time will count further Example :10:00 0:00- 0:00- (for 12 minutes)10:13 The reason I want to fix this is because if I want to make a chart in excel the time line gives an error. Is there any mod or update available for this problem? We run RSVieuw sins 2003 and have never updated it. We have also a problem with the database length. I want to log a week in 1 DBF file. Here fore you need 10080 Rows60 min X 24 hour X 7 day’s = 10080 Rows. It looks like that the DBF file is limited until 6 day’s Is it possible to change this to 7 day’s ? Thanks for your answer! ### Assistant: R.Nieling, unfortunately I have found any information on your strange issue about time recording... maybe other users have seen this problem in the past ...About Datalog limitation, I think the problem is elsewhere, you may log 1 billion records max... also excel limit is about 65500 rows.. My suggestion is to upgrade your current version of RSView32 software, maybe these problems will solve themselves with new installation files. :smileytongue: I'm afraid to not be much helpful... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Hello fuzzy logic , Thanks for the quick reply!The time question is solved. It was no problem form RSVieuw but from Excel. The problem with logging is “Solved”. We did not see that RSVieuw logs from Sunday till Saturday. That was our mistake! Sorry! How can we change it to a data log from Monday till Sunday? (7 days a week) Thanks for your answer! R.Nieling, you may try the procedure explained at page 7-28 / 7-29 of the following User manual for RSView32 : http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/vw32-um001_-en-e.pdf Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) for SLC Hi all experts again, appreciate if someone can confirm me the list of MTBF values for only SLC and its I/O? I couldn't find it via your web, only ControlLogix and PLC5 series have all the MTBF. Much appreciate of the reply... ### Assistant: Some informations here: http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/index.php/t-27810.html As you see, best way is to ask Rockwell Support the specific module info... maybe thru Ask a Question in the Rockwell Knowledgebase. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Passwordprotected display in FactoryTalkView ME ?? Hi everybody. I'm using FactoryTalkView ME 5.0. PanelView 700. Is it possible to make passwordprotected displays ? I would like the option -GOTO CONFIGURE BUTTON- to be protected. Had a look at the Login/Logout issue, but didn't quite mannage to figure it out. No other display needs to be protected. Thank you. ### Assistant: Here we are ! Of course you may do this... :smileyhappy: Have a look to the following technote.... should be all that you need to know about security in FactoryTalk View ME. Aid 33153 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Hi -fuzzy logic.Thank you for the answer. I managed to fix the problem my self. Found the Technote you have written. Thank you anyway :smileyhappy: Scarecrow_666 n"}
{"text": "### Human: MS Objects always on top I'm using FT View Studio SE. I have a screen with a mix of MS objcts (such as Text Boxes and Tab Strips) and standard HMI object (such as rectangles, panels, text, etc). In design mode everything looks the way I want it but when I run the picture in the View Client all of the MS objects are always on top of the other standard picture graphics. Is there any way to change this behavior so that MS objects can be behind other graphics? Thanks for any help or input. ### Assistant: Well, if any of those MS Objects are dynamic in anyway (they have animations associated, or embedded tag variables, etc, etc), they will always jump in front. Just a guess as to what is happening in your case. JHutch Thanks for the thought but none of my MS Objects are animated with tags, variables, etc. Everything they do or show is controled by VBA in most cases. In some cases there isn't even any VBA. I'm starting to think that it's a FT View thing and there's probably no way around it. So, instead of a Panel with text objects on it I'm using a VBA form and that's getting me the effect I want for the most part. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ATEX Directive 99/92/EC AB Sensors Does any of the AB sensor product line carry the European ATEX directive 99/92/EC with a zone 2 rating.The standard for if the sensor can be use in a possible explosive atmophere. Thank You ### Assistant: ozziez23, you may find the Rockwell Product Certification for ATEX at this link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/products/certification/ex/excert.html Also, a catalog of the sensors indicated in the cerification table at this other link: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ca/ex_id-ca001_-en-p.pdf Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy Logic, Thanks for you help, I'm a new product manager at Rexel in Ohio and I'm not up to speed yet on the Knowledgebase or the ExtraNet. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700 Analog Output I have a project where I am reading output power from a PowerFlex 700 series A VFD (part number 20B D 077 A 3ANNANA0) over the analog output connection. I am scaling this value between 0 and 90 kW. My customer complains that at a no load situation the display from this scaling will be around 1.5 kW, while the HIM will display about .8 kW. If this is normal can you help me with an explanation? ### Assistant: DMM, it would be helpful to know how the parameters related to the analog out have been configured (i.e. par# - value) and also some informations about the analog in you use (is it a PLC module, which, which input range etc.). The more infos you put into your posts, the more help you can expect to receive from other users... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Par# 340 =xx11Par# 341 = xx11 Par# 342 = 5Par# 343 = 20mAPar# 344 = 4mAPar# 354 = 90 Analog input is not used, thus using analog output to simply represent output power. When drive is not running HIM displays .8kW, thus is there a hidden parameter for calibration as in the 4 class series? Thanks DMM, about Analog Input... I was meaning the device you use to measure the Analog Output coming from Drive :smileywink: It isn't clear to me if the .8 Kw value you have on HIM is with drive running at 0 Hz reference, or with drive stopped; if the case is the last, maybe the analog out is defective or the firmware of your drive has a bug in that parameter.If as I guess (and hope) you get this with drive running, I think could be an imprecision of the sensor with this low level of output.Unfortunately I don't know if there is an hidden parameter as that mentioned by you to calibrate the output.You may consider to correct this offset in your Display...if it is possible :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView SE Application Backup I have aRSView SE Distributed application with Redundant Servers. How to backup the application? ### Assistant: Prabhat, it is not clear to me if you need to backup your Studio Se project to restore in the destination servers (deploy) or just backup a loaded server.Anyway, I will indicate you some technotes that may help on those needs... Aid 26702 - Aid 30310Aid 43543 - Aid 23130 Also an useful cumulative technote for Redundancy guidelines: Aid 27105 Hope this helps....:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView Studio and Symbol Fatory Active X I deployed to a new computer. Restored the APA file and all of the connection tags for the symbols used by the OEM do not show up on the connection tab. ### Assistant: Ron, restoring an APA file isn't enough to have the Activex available in the new pc... :smileysad: you need to manually install the Symbol Factory Activex also on that computer. I think you may use RegSvr32 Windows command to install your ActiveX, BEFORE restore operation of your application. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic WE tried this and it did not help. Called the OEM and found that the version of Symbol factory we purchased was newer then the one they used to develop the application. Registered a copy of the OCX that I got from the vender and all is working now. Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: AB Bulletin 140U MCCB - CE marked The new A116 IC catalog shows that all the 140U MCCB frames, except the K frame (400A) are CE certified, but the product profile (140U-PP002B-EN-E) shows all 140U MCCB Frames are CE certified. Is or is not the 140U MCCB K frame CE certified? ### Assistant: I guess you've already found this information (post is quite hold) :smileyhappy: Just for reference, I was searching for this CE certifications today, so I'm posting a link to a KB note I've found on that. Aid 45105 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View SE 4.0 Data Logging TO SQL Server I am trying to log data to a ODBC data base on a SQL Server. I have gone to the Enterprise manager on the SQL Server and added a new Data Base called DATALOG. I also added a New Login under security called RSView. THe logging RSView has been set for SQL Server Authentication and a password set the database to the DATALOG database. On the Database access tab of the Login the DATALOG database and RSView User were set to the database that can be accessed by this login. Permit in database roll is public and db_Owner. After that I went to the ODBC Data source administrator and set up a User DNS called SQL the used the SQL Server Driver. I set the server for Track-Historian which is where the SQL server resides. I used the SQL server authentication and typed in RSView and the password. I then set the default database to DATALOG. When testing the DATA Source the test completes successfully. After all of this I still can not seem to set up the ODBC in the data log. When I try to create tables it tells me the connection failed and askes for a user and a pass word I supply the user and password and the tables are created. I push the OK button to close the Datalog screen and I get a connection failed again. Any help on how to set up a data log to SQL server. I think I got the data source configured correctly the test succeeds ### Assistant: Ron, unless you have already seen it, there is a KB note that may help... Aid 39707 I hope... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks, I missed that it was to be a System DSN and not a user DSN like I had set it up. I also found out that the SQL Server needed to be set up in mixed mode in security and I had to check that login is required in the Data Login Setup screen next to create tables. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Device Box plugs We are using the 8 port device box as a standard; and plugging the unused ports depending on the application. I have been ordering extra accesory kits to get more plugs----is there a part number where I can order these plugs directly? ### Assistant: I guess you're searching the Plug and Nut to close the unused holes of you Devicebox. Answer is NO, there isn't a separate item code for those parts. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic They can be ordered with the following part numbers:1485A-C1 = mini cap1485A-C3 = micro cap or the following http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ca/m116-ca001_-en-p.pdf Page 8-19and6-19 Regards BUS OFF No, these are not what I am looking for.The only way to get these from AB is to order the accessory kit---which is a waste since all I need are the hole plugs.However, I did find out they are made by HEYCO---all the DeviceBox fittings are; so you can find a local HEYCO distributor. Oh well thought the ones on 8-19 would fit deviceport, but if not then third party it is. Just to *close* this thread.... :smileytongue: Here a BOM of the 1485A-ACCKIT mentioned in the first post: Aid 24010 The two items aikorob uses from that kit are: 1 PGP16 THREADED PLUG 3 PGP9 THREADED PLUG As there isn't a code to order them from RA, aikorob has found the maker of these plugs, HEYCO. For reference, here a link to the HEYCO Data Sheet for some plastic plugs that fit on devicebox. Data Sheet I think also other third parties are available as a valid alternative to those plugs... as they are standard PG. :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Create Circular Chart / Trend How to Create Circular Chart / Trend using Historical Data from FT View ODBC Datalog. In FTView SE there is Trends to display historical data as chart, can the same is converted for circular chart?. if data is collected & made available in any database, is there any workaround possible to create circular charts? ### Assistant: If you mean to have a graphical representation of an hardware Circular Chart, there isn't a way to have this inside View SE.Trends are only in linear representation. Maybe other third party software can do this, using a database exported as ODBC Datalog from View SE. Or you may try to search for a third party Activex to insert in your View SE application in order to do this. - fuzzy logic yes, requirement is to have graphical representation of an hardware circular chart. data singals given to the circular chart can be stored in any database.any VB or .NET application samples are avilable to address the need. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error message on PanelView + 1000 I get an error message on a numeric input, Enter Handshake Control did not reset the enter control. I've tried different settings under the timing tab but still occasionally get the error. Could someone point me in the right direction?? ### Assistant: wingman, may you please add some informations about the settings you've done in timing tab? Also, which tags you use in connection tab ? If you use Enter Handshake connection as I guess, how do you perform this handshake from PLC? Just to better understand your issue... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Here are the settings under the Timing tab. Enter Key Control Delay - 400ms Tried 0msEnter key Handshake Time - 4sec Tried 5sec, 6sec, 7secEnter Key Hold Time - 250msHandshake reset type - Non-zero I'm using the Value, Enter, and Enter Handshake tags in the Connections Tab. PLC Logic is like this: I have a XIC (Enter tag), OSR(Enter Handshake) then a MOV (Value to a different Integer Tag) wingman, it seems to be something wrong in how you use the handshake... :smileysurprised: You HAVE to use the Enter Handshake Tag to reset the Enter Tag, during the time you specify in Enter Key Handshake Time.This is why you get the error message... :smileysurprised: From User Manual: Set up the data source to send a non-zero value to the Enter handshake connection when it has read the new value at the Value connection, and then to reset the Enter handshake connection to 0.If the Enter key handshake time expires before the Enter handshake connection resets the Enter connection, an error message is sent to FactoryTalk® Diagnostics. That means your logic in plc should set for a while the Enter Key Handshake Tag when it receive the new Value. Also your logic to move the value should be:XIC (Enter tag), MOV (Value to a different Integer Tag) Or, if you want only hold the Value for a specific period of time, you have to remove the Enter Key Handshake Tag, so that the time in Enter Key Hold Time become active (I suggest in that case to have this time longer than 250ms). From User Manual:When the Enter key hold time has expired, the Enter connection is reset to 0 and the operator can send a new value to the Value connection. This time setting applies only if the Enter connection is assigned and the Enter Handshake connection is not assigned (in the Connections tab). Have a look to the following technote to better understand how handshake works: Aid 53465 Other indications on the ViewME User Manual, from page 21-13 to 21-16. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic If I read it right, a more reliable way to do the PLC program would be to remove the OSR (Handshake Bit) and add a branch around the MOV, adding an OTE with the Handshake tag. One thing I don't understand with the current programming is this. The logic should work the way it is. When the enter key is pressed and picked up in the PLC, the OSR resets the enter key. I should only get an error if it takes longer than 4 seconds ( I get an error about 20 % of the time). I would think the handshaking process would take less than 4 seconds with a 18ms scan time. wingman, with your original logic, I think the duration of the One Shot over the Handshake bit is too short to have the PVP catch it... it is only ON for one PLC cycle.It is better in my opinion to leave it ON maybe 500ms/1s in PLC program. Remember that this time duration also depends from the Maximum Tags Update Rate you've configured in Display Setting where your Numeric Input is used... :smileysurprised: this setting defines how often the PVP update the Tags in that display, so your pulse should stay active at least for the time indicated there) Your error happens because the PVP NEVER read this One Shot (obviously it does not take 4 seconds to be set from PLC program :smileywink: ... so the problem is not related to the limit of time in which PVP needs to receive it, but its duration should be enough longer to let PVP to receive it). Hope it is clear.... :smileywink: Let me know if this solve the issue.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC-5/03 firmware 11 Did anybody already use a SLC-500 cpu with the new firmware 11 ? :smileysurprised:I'm interesting in the new protocol available on the serial port of the cpu, Modbus Master. Is it the same as Micrologix Controllers? I have to realize a connection from cpu to an operator panel and two AC drives, they have an RS-485 port and are all modbus slaves. My though was to use a 1761-NET-AIC to convert the RS-232 to RS-485, then connect all the slaves to the 6 pin plug phoenix connector of AIC+.May I consider the same as Micrologix example in Aid 25463 ?Any suggestion ? Thanks. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic ### Assistant: Fuzzy Yes the set up would be similar to the micrologix setup with the aic in place. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1747-rm001_-en-p.pdfpage 12-24 has an example msg setup The KB referenced should work well for an example. Bus_Off, many thanks for your reply :smileyhappy: I hadn't seen yet this new Instruction Manual revision... very clear and helpful. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 7.4 & RSLadder5 Issue I am trying to use the RSLadder5 version 5 ActiveX control in an RSView32 version 7.4 (CPR9) application. I have followed the steps in the manual, but everytime I try to accept the properties window after selecting the .RSP off-line file the RSView32 software crashes with some type of memory exception. I searched the KB but nothing turns up. Any ideas? ### Assistant: aiki, I guess you've already solved it... :smileytongue: Anyway, if you've not solved this issue.... did you try the patch indicated in this Technote ? Aid 33749 - fuzzy logic I did get the issue solved, although it was with another tech note. But thank you for the follow up. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS 232???? Hi ALL, I am new one for PLC logics, what is meant by RS232???:smileyindifferent: Thanks & Regards Martin ### Assistant: Martin, RS-232 is a standard than defines electrical characteristics of a particular type of Serial Connection; usually you may find a serial port on a PC and many other programmable devices, as for example PLCs. Here you may find many informations on that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rs232 - fuzzy logic Thanking you.....Fuzzy logic:smileytongue: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Is It Possible to Disable Touch Animation on an RSView32 Object? Hello all - I am really scratching my head here... I can't seem to find a way to dynamically enable/disable the touch animation for objects in RSView32. Am I missing something here? The only way I see to do it is by creating 2 of the same objects (1 with Touch animation, the other without) with Visibility animation to toggle which one should be displayed. ### Assistant: I think a solution could be to use an If-Then expression in the Touch Animation - Press action field... IF tag1 = 2 THEN Display TrendPage ELSE dummy_tag = 0 Using the above expression, the action for Touch Animation Press( i.e. display of a page) become active only if your condition (i.e. tag1 = 2) is true; otherwise, the dummy tag (unused) is reset; this last operation is needed because ELSE requires a command.... Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Hi fuzzy - thanks again for the response. I tried the following syntax in a test for the Touch animation: if DisableTag = 0 TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 I also tried the following: if DisableTag = 0 Set TouchTag 1 else Set DummyTag 1 and the same 2, both with then following the 1st part of the if, but no luck (I get errors in the Event Log each time). Am I missing something obvious here? Both expressions seems correct (as below indicated).... if DisableTag = 0 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1if DisableTag = 0 then Set TouchTag 1 else Set DummyTag 1 May you please post the errors do you get ? - fuzzy logic Hey fuzzy - thanks for hanging in there with me... Here is the error I am receiving: Command or Macro if DisableTag = 1 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 is unknown. I tried with a double equals in the comparison and received the same error: Command or Macro if DisableTag == 1 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 is unknown. Really I'm trying these expression on RSViewSE... strange thing you have because the animation should work the same for both software... In RSViewSE also I need to add endif statement at the end of the expression... may you try this also ? if DisableTag = 0 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 endif - fuzzy logic Thanks for the suggestion - same result however :(... Based on the RSView32 User's Guide - it looks like if-then-else is supported in expressions, but there are no real examples provided of proper syntax. mmmhhh...:smileysad: Maybe the syntax in RSView32 is different in this case from RSViewSE... I will try during the day with RSView32 and let you know... - fuzzy logic pittpanther, here the syntax that works (tested with RSView32 v7.40) :smileyvery-happy: & TouchTag = If DisableTag == 0 Then 1 Else 0 So that TouchTag becomes true (1) when you *press* the object and DisableTag is false (0); otherwise TouchTag is reset to (0). Hope this works for you....:smileywink: Let me know... - fuzzy logic Excellent! Thanks a million fuzzy. Based on the RSView User's Guide, I had tried a similar syntax - but obviously not quite right. Thanks again! n"}
{"text": "### Human: when use safety relay? I have designed many compressor control skid based control panels, normally, I wire the emergency stop push button into one of PLC input channel and use PLC code for shutdown process, but for some case, I saw other company put safety relay such as AB-MSR5T etc, can any body tell which industrial standard to tell us when safety relay is need? as my normal practice ( wire the Emergency stop into PLC DI channel) is right for compressor safety interlock? ### Assistant: I'm not sure you will find any document that will explicitly tell you when you to use a relay and when not to use a relay. It all depends on the risk assessment of the process or equipment. key things to ask is if your equipment can cause injury if it didn't stop. If so then you may want to increase your safety integrated level or SIL. Safety can be as simple as well tried components for simple equipment that is not likely to injure or if it does injure it is a very minor injury and exposure is rare, to very complex redundant systems. I hope this helps but it probably wont. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_Integrity_Level Hi kelvin, You are right. In our plant compressor panel same procedure is followed. To stop the compressor the signal is taken from emergency ( stop) connected through PLC.if you want more clarification in it. I will try to send you a ckt daigram.. Typically in the past, e-stops were hard-wired and could not pass through a software based piece of equipment. AB has, as others, a plc specifically designed for emergency stop applications. In using the Minotaur it's easy to set up a category 3 stop in which you have redundant paths for stopping the equipment. Also, it can detect any deterioration or integrity of the wiring and issue a stop as well. We use a DI into our plc to stop other equipment in an orderly fashion. NOT stopping this equipment would not jeapordize the equipment safety but would allow operators to easily start things back up. Here is a link that may help: http://www.theautomationbookstore.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/safebk-rm001_-en-p.pdf...hope this helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ODBC Data Hello everybody!!! Well, I am trying to do a little report to a customer. How? I am using an ODBC DNS Microsoft Access Driver to send the data to a DBProduct.mdb, and using Access I will produce a report. Everythings looks good, but the Access file doesn't have any data. Why? Any idea? I am working with FactoryTalk View 5.00, Windows XP SP 2 and Microsoft Access 2002. If I show this file all the 3 tables are empty. I used that in the past without problem. I would be very glad to hear from you soon. With best regards, Yari ### Assistant: Yari, have a look to the following technote.... seems to be what you need :smileytongue: Aid 39707 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, thanks for your advice. I had already seen this ID 39707. But the file wich is asociated with the ODBC stay always empty. As I said, this works with RSView SE 4.00 without problem, but with FactoryTalk View looks like the link with the ODBC doesn't work. A second file is generated but with the extension is .OBF where I could see all the data. So, any other idea? Yari Linkified for convenience - JHutch Jg Yari, I've setup an ODBC Datalog following step-by-step the procedure in the Technote, and this works fine (using FactoryTalk ViewSE v5.00)The .obf file is an ODBC Backup... data are logged in that file (path you have specified in Datalog Setup under ViewSE) when normal log in the ODBC database fails.Are you sure you have setup the use of SYSTEM DSN and not USER DSN in the ODBC Data Source Administration ?Also, be sure to click on Create Tables in Datalog setup, otherwise your .mdb files remains empty :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, I found the problem, something is wrong with my computer :smileysad:. I made the same in another computer and is still working without problem. Many, many thanks for your help and have a nice day. With best regards, Yari n"}
{"text": "### Human: Zone 1 rated PLC? Hi, is there any rockwell PLC having hazardous rating of Zone 1/Class 1 Div 1? ### Assistant: No, there isn't a PLC that can directly be installed in this Hazardous area. Anyway there is the possibility to use some particular Distributed I/O (Flex EX) connected to the main PLC which resides in a safe area. Here a LINK to the FLex EX selection guide, which give you some examples of connection and all the needed infos about certifications. Also this other LINK for all the literature about those modules. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic You also have to use the Ex power supply 1797-PS2N2 which is pricey. Also, Controlnet is the only comm. method for use in a hazardous area. You MUST use the Flex EX ControlNet Bus Isolator module 1797-BIC in your non-hazardous area to isolate your controlnet segment from the flex rack. There is a very small current limitation on the digital I/O modules which is about 45mA....too small to energize a 24V solenoid unless the coil is rated for use in that area. Some of ASCO's coils are electronic and only draws around 30mA so they might help. Other than these....works fairly well. Please select power supply carefully, I have made a application which calculated 24VDC power supply is within range, however, encountered a problem that when control system initial power up, maybe all IO modules together sunk too much current, some AI module can not be initialized ( keep blinking), I need took out and insert the AI module (1797-IE8) to reset this module P+F has similar power supply, however, size is huge and of course for the price is high.Kelvin n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-SYNCH FO cable limitation according to SynchLink design guide ( publication 1756-TD008A-EN-P-Aug2002) page 3-10 and other references, the max length of fiber optical cable is 300 meters and cable splicing is not permitted, when we look at AB cable product 1403-CFxxx, all this cable are not armoured, it might be damaged when routine from one panel to 2nd panel, so what I am thinking the aroumed cable is required from 1st panel to 2nd panel, however, it required FO cable patch panel and cable splicing. so, if the two panels distance is more than 300 meters, is any better suggestion to solve the FO cable limitation? ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-IB16ISOE application did any body use 1756-IB16SOE module before, if there are 10 IB16ISOE modules installed at Redundant CLX remote IO, any controlnet traffic need consider for the design of network architecture? if you have some IB16ISOE application, appreciate if can email to me at liaotang@gmail.com ### Assistant: I've not a specific experience with these modules; just I'm posting some notes about Controlnet Planning. You may check for your Controlnet traffic, modules connections and other useful informations, also offline, doing the configuration of your network in RS5000 and scheduling it using RSNetworx for Cnet (launching it from inside local CNB/CN2 Module Configuration) Have a look to this *old* post. It is related also to the selection of NUT/RPI of your network. http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=130#M130 Also consider carefully the Comm Format you need to use for your IB16ISOE modules, as this can create a very high bandwidth usage due to the high number of words to exchange with controller. Also here some notes about the use of these modules in a Redundant Configuration. Aid 29954 Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Hi, fuzzy logic:thanks very much, we use this module for the power plant circuit breaker and generator load shed, it need very fast response, I am worry about the SOE and SOE sort logic executing may take too long time and delay the load shed.this SOE module should be used in similar application world wide, unfortunatelly, it is the 1st time to me. I am afarid to lost some important design consider. there are quite No of KB at knowledge base I can go through. ...just to add two KB notes that may help :smileytongue: Aid 44779Aid 39761 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1757-SRM module can not syn I have 3 similar CLX redundant control systems, 2 systems are installed at control room, one system install at field UCP,which need all PLC module confiormal coated.Redundant firmware: 16.54, RSLINX2.51,all 2 systems inside Control room are doing well job, one system at field UCP can not sync, when I initial sync from primary 1757-SRM, I saw it is syncing untill 30%, sometime can up to 90%, then reset to 0% again. all the modules at secondary chassis are compatible to primary chassis, and all firmware are flashed to 16.54 bundle.i tried almost one day, only for this pretty issue, still can not solve,anyone get idea? it maybe IO module comformal coated problem? ### Assistant: Kelvin, something strange with the firmware and software revisions in your post... 1757-SRM is supported until Redundancy Revision 16.53; after that, revision 16.54 has to be used with new 1756-RM module... Also RSLinx version, in both cases, should be 2.52, as per redundancy revision notes. Here a KB note on that revisions.... Aid 40545 Check also the Release Notes of the two bundles: 16.53 Release Notes16.54 Release Notes May you please check in your hardware? Not sure the problem comes from the above but... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Drives forum is now OPEN TO THE PUBLIC! Rockwell Automation is very happy to announce that access to the Drives and Motion forums are now open to the public. Now, you no longer need to have a support contract to converse with your peers on Drives and Motion related issues! A step long requested by you, our customers, we sincerely hope this will provide a valuable way for customers to help each other. Please feel free to post to this thread with any feedback you have on this change. Joshua HutchinsonRockwell Automation Forums ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with this process W3wp.exe The proces W3wp.exe is terminating unexpectevely i have windows 2k3 and factoryview SE. ### Assistant: Here a link to Microsoft KB... there are some notes on that... Microsoft KB notes Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1336F option cards installation Is it possible to install a 1336-GM6 Devicenet Internal Comm and also a 1336-LA3 Analog Interface Card in a 1336F drive frame B (together) ? It seems possible, but just to be sure... :smileyhappy: Thanks. - fuzzy logic ### Assistant: Yes you can. There is provisions for both of those adapter cards at the same time. The LA3 would be TB3, and the internal communications card would be Adapter 6. Many thanks for your clarification :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Please remember to Rate the Comments( ) to enhance the reputation of the User who provided help,or close your Topic using the ( ) button over the answer that solved it. Thanks... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Toolkit Activations We are a systems integrator with a RS Toolkit License, currently EVRSI license, but I hear moving to FT Activation for next year. I need to be able to run a few older versions of some of the RS to support some customers. I'm planning to use VMWare to accomplish this, but I'm curious as to how I will have to set up the activations so I have access to them from whichever platform I happen to be operating from. ### Assistant: I think the best way to use the same activation on the two operating systems (the host and vmware) is to use USB dongle as Host ID for your FactoryTalk Activations. As per other users experiences (also confirmed by KB note below), this is possible using last dongle drivers...http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Activations&thread.id=99 Aid 39822 Here some technotes on USB dongle : Aid 32585Aid 54553 Hope this helps....:smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Motor Catalog Number TLY-A220T-Hxx2 I am trying to set up a servo axis on a Compactlogix system and the motor I am using is not listed in the drop down of the Drive/Motor tab in the motor catalog number box. Can I use a TL-A220P-Hxx2, or is there a database that I can find somewhere? Thanks ### Assistant: Craig, you need to update the Motor Database in RS5000. Here some Technotes on that: Aid 41155Aid 46223 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks, perfect. I could not find that by searching the knowledge base. I must not have typed in the correct parameters to search by. Thanks again. Craig n"}
{"text": "### Human: Run the same application differently on multiple Panelviews? I am running an application on 4 separate panelview plus 1000 terminals. I am looking for a way to identify to the Factory Talk ME application which Panelview it is running on. I want to use this information to turn off visibility on controls for devices that are not in the same area with the terminal being used. I have seen this done in an older RsView 32 project by reading the Linx project name into an RsView tag and using an event to use that value to set a different tag for each terminal, but I have not seen a method to do this type of thing in ME. The closest method I can think of would be to use an autoexec.bat file to rename the hard drive and then try to create an active X control that will read the hard drive name and write it in to a tag. If it were windows XP I think I could make this option work, but I do not know enough about windows CE to build this system. ### Assistant: Using PVP and not PVP CE - the activeX option is not really an option. There are no functions that expose hardware information for identification and I assume that user log in is not acceptable as you really want it to an area of the plant. A work around solution could be - make yourself an retentive HMI memory tag. The first time you start the application have a display come-up that prompts for the area of the plant - enter a value 1-4 for this area. Only show the 'setup screen' when the tag value is 0 (is retentive, so should only be once). Then base your visibility on the this tag value. I have seen an application set up similar to what you are suggesting on a standard PanelView 1000. The start up screen has buttons to select the area it is in and once that has been selected you can not navigate back to that screen. It has not been a problem, but I have always been concerned that if they accidentally press the wrong button they have to power the unit down to fix it. I would like to automate this process, but if there is no way to automatically detect the terminal name, I may have to use that method. No way to do this on a terminal. The closest I could see would be to create a memory tag that has a different value for each terminal. But that makes these different projects, so sort of defeats the purpose. I've played with ME Runtime on a computer running XP and if I use Kepware, I can point to Channel1.Device1._System_DeviceID and see my IP address. But it doesn't seem to work for a terminal I have had this same battle as many of us have. Also I currently use the start up screen to select the area This terminal is running. I do add a back door to log-in as an Administrator and return to the startup screen to change the area. I have also used a String display to: if CounselNumber=1 then Counsel 1 elseif CounselNumber=2 then Counsel 2 elseif..elseif ..elseNot Selected Some how Rockwell should come up with a solution for this. Many of use would love to see the option of at a minimum to see the hardware IP address, display this information , and use it as a condition to what can be preformed from that location. Has anyone mentioned a startup screen that sets a memory tag that controls what the operator can see based on his selection? ;) You could also control this by requiring the operator to login and controlling visibility with CurrentUserName( ) or CurrentUserHasCode( ).At this time there is no way to get windows-level info (such as machine name) with View ME. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Classic on VMWare Has anyone run RSLinx Classic on VMWare and what is your experience with it? ### Assistant: I think that you will get many answers on this thread... :smileyvery-happy: My experience is good on that, I'm using it every day (now I have RSLinx Classic 2.53) and it works very well with Ethernet or Serial drivers. Anyway, here another thread (from another forum :smileymad: ) that contains other users experiences. http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/index.php/t-34184.html Also a KB note about the fact that it is currently not supported by RA and general info about Virtual Environments.Aid 30209 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I use it on VMWare Workstation 6 for serial and ethernet. It works fine in those cases but you cannot use the PCMK dirver. I use it almost daily as I have to support multiple software versions for Logix, RSView32, ME and SE. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 700S-CF Relay Can someone please point me in the correct direction for using a 700S-CP relay? I am monitoring several door switch through a safety device(not Rockwell) which in turn pulls in a relay when all the doors have closed. I am using a 700S-CF relay for this but have been told I am not using it correctly. I am looking for a schematic representation on how the coil and contacts should be wired. Thanks ### Assistant: At this LINK you may find some examples, starting from page 12... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rounding Off Floating Point #'s Aloha, I am using RSLogix 500 v 7.00 to program and control SLC-5/05 processor. I am using false to true events to count increments of 0.01 and put into a floating point register (F30:0). I only need two significant digits. Is there a way to round my numbers to this? I've looked through the RSLogix Instruction set (publication 1747-RM001C-EN-P). If this is not possible, is there a way to get around the rounding errors I am experiencing? Thank you in advance for your help. Aloha,g ### Assistant: grantos, which is the higher number do you need to manage ? Following the logic you may use in order to obtain what you need (assuming you value in F30:0 is between 0.0 and 32767.49)It is necessary to convert from Float to Integer, rounding to two decimal digits, and then move again from Integer to Float. Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thanks so much. I was hoping there'd be a command but that's fine. Here's what I did - basically used a CPT function. Cut down image to better fit within browser window - JHutch Yes, that was the why I've asked you the higher number you need to manage... with your logic it could only be between 0.0 and 327.67, or you will get an error in the MUL operation.Also I've prepared the example using single math instructions instead of CPT, in order to use it with every OS level of SLC-500 cpu (older version can't support CPT...). - fuzzy logic Yup, totally, I understood that. I knew I was never going to get numbers that high so I knew I was going to be OK. Thanks so much for the help and guidance. Most appreciated. Aloha,g n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT view v4 to v5 and server problem Let's get right into things. I have or did this...2003 windows serverIIS is installed - twice now (this shouldn't matter for a stand-alone application)FactoryTalk View SE 5.00.00 (CPR9) - patched per latest roll-up FactoryTalk Services Platform 2.10.00 (CPR9) - patched per latest roll-up (rockwell recommended not going to SR1 on FTSP) All Rockwell products are running on the same box. This is a fresh OS install with no other software products. The only software is FTview related and FT activation. No MS office products or anything else. Just a bare OS install with IIS. My goal is to take the stand-alone application apart and take some of the screens and import them into a distributed system....hence the server. My problem is things are NOT working correctly at the server level with my old stand-alone application. (Several reinstalls of FTView ago I was able to get a remote client to hit a test button within a distributed test application. Forget that part as it only proves IIS and our network works and security works) I have a stand-alone application that I imported from v4 to v5. Here's the problem. I have global objects with touch animations. After anywhere from 1-20 touches the animations fail to activate and become very slow/delayed. I begin to see 'error writing to tag' errors in the FT logs. If I wait about 1-5 minutes the animation finally happens and future touch animations are slow. I have a case with Rockwell but I'm waiting for a response and was hoping for insight from the forum. So far I've reinstalled FT view and all patches twice. In between I've even reapplied IIS. It's almost as if some of the patches aren't being applied. When I've checked the DLL versions they indicated they are the correct/new updated files. I'm doing all this with an admin account on the domain versus on the local server. I'm still waiting for Rockwell to advise on what to do next. I'm currently rebuiliding the server to try the whole install / test process again. RSlater,RSmike ### Assistant: My problem is exactly like RAid50357. I'm looking for the silver bullet solution. yes the server is turned on RSlater,RSmike Linkified for convenience - JHutch I'm afraid I left my silver bullets in my other gun, all I've got is lead. :smileywink: This sounds like a tough one. Just to be clear, does the same problem occur when you are just running the standalone project? If so, this rules out IIS, since that does not get used in SE Standalone. If the problem only occurs in a distributed SE application, check the log files on both the client and the server. Best way is to go to Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Event Viewer. Concentrate on the System, Application and FactoryTalk logs. We know that you have error writing tag messages in FT - any other errors? Do the System or Application logs contain any errors? Network errors are particularly helpful, since a distributed application is only as good as the network upon which it is built. Dude!!! I was living in the event logs for the last week...I finally gave up and took the easy way out. This was all in VM so I had the IS/IT boys just rebuild the system (and build up a client VM as well - I love VM). The sad part is it took no time to take this easy way out. I did become more educated about the many issues related to FTview. You'd think RS would release a minor revision instead of all the patches. I cannot explain why the application was not working but I got sick of fighting with it. I only know I did the same things all over again and the stand alone application now works. I even migrated my stand alone app over to a distributed application. It works locally and so does the remote client. I can only guess it was a corrupted OS or FT install. I'm thinking I might just run the everything in VM land. It so easy to just move stuff around and rebuild and archive and just make life easy. Somewhere in our data center sits a big box with a couple hundred servers running on it....awesome. RSlater,RSmike I feel your pain. Sometimes the tangle of O/S, patches and network gets so complicated that it is less work to do a clean start than solve the problem. The VMware idea is good - I couldn't do my job without it! Love the ability to revert to a known good snapshot! Wish I could run this in a production environment. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem loading displays in factoryview SE I have problem loading displays in factoryview se studio it gime me an error message like thisUnable to open file: C:Documents and SettingsAdministratorLocal SettingsTemporary Internet FilesContent.IE5KDANCH6Nmydisplay[1].gfx. I have tried with imported displays and new displays and stills have the problem i also did with a local application and still have the same problem.l ### Assistant: javi, would be useful to have the exact error message or a screenshot in .jpg format that you can attach to your post. Anyway, meanwhile, try to have a look to the following technote: Aid 27194Aid 39624 - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, i already looked at that ID but still doesn't work. Strange is that the message is reguarding the issue explained in those IDs....Are you sure that IIS are installed...and that you have installed IIS before View SE? It is needed, in order to IIS to work... - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, ISS is installed and running also i followed ID's 39624 and 30714 and still have the problem. javy, last suggestion I think... :smileysad: Did you try to install and use Studio on a different PC ? Without imported Graphics ? I mean new PC, new Studio installation, new local application with only one display and one object... just to minimize the possibility, trying to isolate the error... - fuzzy logic I will try it tomorrow. Thanks and i keep in touch to let you know what happen. Make sure that you follow technote ID#39431 This technote cover all recommended settings for SE. I had a problem when someone went in and changed the temperory internet file size and It would not allow the screens to load. Before you change the settings be sure to restore the internet settings back to factory defaults. Linkified for convenience - JHutch With an error like that, check the following: 1. There may be an error in the IIS log that will give us a clue. These are located in C:WindowsSystem32LogfilesW3SVC1. You should see where the client did a GET of MYDISPLAY.GFX. Right after the filename is an HTTP status code. Maybe there is a 401, 403 or 500 error that explains what happened when the client requested that file. See tech note 20697 for a list of HTTP status codes. 2. Enable security audits on both client and server. You do this in Control Panel under Administrative Tools-> Local Policy Editor-> Local Policies-> Audit Policy. Double click on each audit policy and check the Failure audit. No reboot needed! Now when you try to open MYDISPLAY, check the Windows Event Viewer-> Security log on both client and server. 3. Delete your client's temporary Internet files - gets rid of corruption, frees space. 4. Do you get the same error if you run the client locally on the server computer? If so, it might indicate a network or security problem between the client and the server. 5. A good general setting is to set the IIS to use Windows Integrated Authentication. This is set in IIS editor by right-clicking on the Default Web Site, going to the Directory Security tab and checking the check box at the bottom of the screen. 6. I don't have any proof of this, but I like to think that adding the HMI server computer to the list of Trusted Sites in Internet Explorer is a good general practice. If you can't trust your HMI server, whom can you trust? Buena suerte! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Motion forum is now OPEN TO THE PUBLIC! Rockwell Automation is very happy to announce that access to the Drives and Motion forums are now open to the public. Now, you no longer need to have a support contract to converse with your peers on Drives and Motion related issues! A step long requested by you, our customers, we sincerely hope this will provide a valuable way for customers to help each other. Please feel free to post to this thread with any feedback you have on this change. Joshua HutchinsonRockwell Automation Forums ### Assistant: JHutch, while my company has a valid contract and could already accessthese forums, I applaud you and Rockwell Automation for opening themup for general access. Thank you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: AssetCentre Scheduled Panelview 550 Upload failed I am running AssetCentre CPR9 with 3 agents. All agents are loaded the same. I ran my first big scheduled backup and compare this last weekend. I had 7 schedules that ran a total of 2-PLC5, 2-CtrlLogix, 23-SLC504, 15- PV550. Each schedule has a combination of each asset and all the schedule's start times are offset from each other. The schedules are set to run over a total of 7 hours early AM on the weekend. All Assets passed and schedules all ran good with the exception of the PanelView550s. 9 out the 15 PVs failed. The error message was Upload Failed. Each PV was set to try 5 times and they all ran on all the agents with the same failure. Any ideas???Thanks ### Assistant: Craig, just some ideas to share on it... Did you try to Upload from PV using Panelbuilder, to see if it works?Which Panelbuilder version is in use on failed PV (PV16 or PB32) ?I remember on old PV version (until 2.60) there was the possibility to strip off upload information from project to reduce its memory size. Aid 13933 Not sure this is related to your issue.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks for your ideas, I can upload these one by one using PB32. For PVs, when AssetCentre uploads, it uses it's internal program to upload. PB32 is not required on the agents. Also, I have had AssetCentre upload these same PV550s with out a problem. It is random on which ones fail, but about 60% of the PV550s fail on any one scheduled backup. So I don't think that the upload information has been stripped from the PVs. Also, I never did that on any of the PVs that I downloaded to, which is about 90% of our PVs. Thanks and any more ideas are welcome. :smileysad: Craig, other ideas.... Is your PV an Ethernet/IP model ? There is a firmware upgrade for the comm card that solves some upload issues... Aid 28750Aid 31466 - fuzzy logic No, They are all DH+ connected to a CtrlLogix Gateway to our Ethernet. They are also located all over the continent. Some are local, some are in Mexico, and some are in Kentucky. Even the local ones go through a CtrlLogix gateway. Also the PLCs also go through this same gateway. I did some more research on what failed and what agent it ran on. I found out that two of my agents failed all the PV550 uploads they tried. The other agent passed them all. I didn't think that I needed PB32 software on my agents, so it is only installed on one agent. So my next step is to install PB32 on all agents and see if this takes care of the problem. Can any one from Rockwell confirm that PB32 is required for agents that are going to be checking PV550s????? Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: How can i stop a PVP application to get to the load application menu? I have a PVP 600 with an application of a PVP 1200 running. Then I can´t stop the application by the normal way because the application is bigger than the screen.When I restart the PVP, the application runs automatically, then I can´t load another application that is already in the memory but not running.How can I stop the application to get to the load application menu? ### Assistant: Berra, restarting your PVP, you will see a white box in the left down corner of the screen; press it if you have a touch terminal (or press F1 if you have a keybord PVP) until you'll get the Configuration screen. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How do I figure the racks in the I/O configuration menu using a scanner Need help on this one. We have 3 10 slot chassis. Chassis 1 has A.Processor 1747-L532 (SLC 500) 5/03 frn 11 B.Scanner 1747-SN Series B C.Input module 1746-IA16 D.Input module 1746-IA16 E.Output module 1746-OA16 F.Output module 1746-OA16 G.Output module 1746-OA16 H.Output module 1746-OA16 I. Output module 1746-OB16 J. Output module 1746-OB16 Chassis 2 A.Remote adapter module 1747-ASB B.Input module 1746-IA16 C.Input module 1746-IA16 D.Output module 1746-OA16 E.Output module 1746-OA16 F.Output module 1746-OA16 G.Output module 1746-OA16 H.Output module 1746-OA16 I. Output module 1746-OB16 J. Output module 1746-OB16 Chassis 3 (SAME AS 2) A.Remote adapter module 1747-ASB B.Input module 1746-IA16 C.Input module 1746-IA16 D.Output module 1746-OA16 E.Output module 1746-OA16 F.Output module 1746-OA16 G.Output module 1746-OA16 H.Output module 1746-OA16 I. Output module 1746-OB16 J. Output module 1746-OB16 SW 1-1 on SW 2-1 on SW 3-1 off SW 1-2 on SW 2-2 on SW 3-2 on SW 1-3 on SW 2-3 off SW 3-3 off SW 1-4 on SW 2-4 on SW 3-4 off SW 1-5 on SW 2-5 on SW 3-5 on SW 1-6 on SW 2-6 off SW 3-6 off SW 1-7 on SW 2-7 on SW 3-7 on SW 1-8 on SW 2-8 on SW 3-8 on Both adapters are setup with this switch arangment Except SW 1-6 is off on the first one. Is it right ? And how do I set up the racks ? Please Help. Thanks in advance ### Assistant: mikekinzie, I'll suggest the following: First remote rack: Sw 1-1 on / Sw 1-2 on / Sw 1-3 on / Sw 1-4 on / Sw 1-5 on / Sw 1-6 on / Sw 1-7 on / Sw 1-8 on (it means Rack 0 - starting group 0)Sw 2 is ok.Sw 3 is ok. Second remote rack: Sw 1-1 on / Sw 1-2 on / Sw 1-3 on / Sw 1-4 on / Sw 1-5 off / Sw 1-6 on / Sw 1-7 on / Sw 1-8 on (it means Rack 2 - starting group 0)Sw 2 is ok.Sw 3 is ok. First chassis uses all rack 0 images, plus 1/4 of rack 1. Second chassis uses all rack 2 images, plus 1/4 of rack 3. So that -SN module should be configured in RS500 as: RACK 0 - Starting gr. 0 - Full RackRACK 1 - Starting gr. 0 - 1/4 RackRACK 2 - Starting gr. 0 - Full RackRACK 3 - Starting gr. 0 - 1/4 Rack You may also use a more compacted addressing, that reserves some logical racks on -SN, but this is more easy to realize and anyway left some extra spaces (3/4 of a rack) in both chassis. Hope this helps.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: OnChange on a tag Hey, Want to do: Make Button visible when tag (DINT) changes. For example, OnChange of a numeric display or variable can be used in VB(.net) and C++ Builder. Can an OnChange, in any kind of way, be used in RS View SE? I searched for it, but with no luck. Maybe someone inhere can help me with this problem. I tried a Animation (Visibility) on the Button with variants of the following code: {[ControllerName]TagName.OnChange()} Thanks a lot! Kind regards, Tom ### Assistant: Tom, just a clarification... Assume that your expression works :smileytongue:Then, when your tag changes, object become visible; then, when does it return invisible ?I mean... if the tag will change again, and your object is already visible, what do you want to do ?May you better explain the desidered sequence of your application? - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, I have a Pop-Up. There is a Numeric Display (linked to a tag) and a Button on it. I wanted a OK-Button to be visible when the value of the Numeric Display changes (after a carriage return), but in the meantime I've found the sollution for my problem. As easy as it can be, I've used the following code in my Visible-Animation of my Button:({[ControllerName]TagName} >= 0) AND ({[ControllerName]TagName} <= 100) Still, thanks for your fast reply Fuzzy. Kind regards, Tom n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View ME, Alarm List Clear Crash Using the Alarm List I have added a clear data button. When this button ispressed the PV+ takes a hard crash. Similar result when using running manapplication test. Thanks for any ideas ### Assistant: bla, did you get an error message either on PVP or your PC ? When you say  takes a hard crash, what do you mean exactly?Do you get a blank display?How do you recover from this situation? In the meanwhile, be sure to have all patches applied for your version of View ME. This is always the best way to get less problems... :smileywink:Use the following keyword in KB: patch roll up - fuzzy logic If I am running the application on my PC using the running man and I hit the clear alarm list button the application turns the emulation screen a whiteish color and I have to kill the process manually to continue. If the clear alarm list button is pressed while running on the PanelView+ the same color shows up and I have to cycle power to the display. I spoke with AB tech support, they said (as you have) check the versions. The display is v5.00.00.55 and initially the programming software was v4. I upgraded to v5 cpr9 and created the alarm list and clear alarm list from scratch, the problem has not changed. Thanks for your input Fuzzy Logic. bla, if you want, create a backup .APA file of your View Studio application and sent it to me.I will try it on my pc... not sure to solve it :smileytongue:, just to have a deeper check.Send me a Private Message in the Forum, I will reply with my e-mail address. - fuzzy logic bla, I've tried your application and reproduced the issue. :smileysurprised: Your Alarm Multiline display (the page where you get the problem) is indicated as Current Alarm Display (Alarm Setup - Advanced Tab), so that is treated as an Alarm Banner.If you use a Clear Alarm History in an Alarm Banner, you'll get the following: (from View ME User manual) The alarm display closes automatically under these circumstances: when the operator presses a clear alarm history button and causes the newest alarm in the alarm history to be deleted.In this circumstance, when you press the Clear button, you'll obtain the above and the effect is described in this KB note: Aid 47337 Basically, as you have used a Replace display type for your alarm display, when you close it, there is nothing else to display, so you'll get a white page. SOLUTION:as per the fact that you don't need an alarm display, leave the Current Alarm field empty; in this manner, your Alarm Multiline is not treated as a banner, but it is a normal Replace Display. Hope this helps... let me know in the forum. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: changing Panelview 1000 from dh+ to ethernet I have a Panelview 1000, 2711-T10C8, FRN 4.20. I would like to change the dh+ module to ethernet. Can that be done? If so, is it an end user swapout? If parts necessary, what are the part numbers? I also thought I read somewhere the RS-232 port is for uploading / downloading only, is that true? ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: This is not possible... :smileysad: Here a KB note on that: Aid 41901 Also, from User Manual, reguarding the item you've specified: Use the RS-232 port to: • transfer PanelView applications between a computer and the DH+ terminal using a direct connection. • connect a printer - fuzzy logic Thanks for the very quick response. I was pretty sure that was the case, but doesn't hurt to ask. George n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View ME on HMI Station? Hello everybody :smileyhappy: I am trying to understand some old applications that we have. One of these are running on a station with RSView ME. Is that correct? :smileyindifferent: Could I have a ME on a normal computer? Where could I find some information about it? I would be very delighted to hear from you soon. With best reagards, Yari ### Assistant: Yari, this is correct... a .mer file can be run on PVP, PVP Ce or a Windows 2000/XP computer, installing on it a ME Runtime licence; you may buy this runtime with different size of Displays you need to use at runtime. Here a link to the Product Specification: LINK Ordering Informations Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, many thanks for you valuable information and have a nice day!!! Yari :smileyhappy: Yari, thanks for your feedback ! :smileyhappy: Just, the solution is linked to your last post, not the right post containing the solution... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Fixed the accepted solution marker to the right post. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: scada over 1 km distance i am using slc 1747-L531 and wants to connect scada over a distance of 1km. What is the best solutiion without dropping connection thanks in advance to all ragni ### Assistant: ragni, basically you have two solutions:Ethernet/IP DH-485 Using Ethernet/IP you will need a 1761-NET-ENI connected over serial port of your SLC controller; then you have a normal ethernet, so you need to install I think, a fiber trunk to get the desidered distance. Using DH-485 you will need a 1747-AIC connected over channel 1 of your SLC controller; then you may have on the other side (max 1219 meters far from the AIC) a 1761-NET-AIC, to connect to your scada via RS-232 serial port. There is also a way to double the distance using two adapters, as shown in the attached image. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic If you have dedicated lines available, you could use short-haul modems and just use RSLinx on the SCADA side. If you have fibers available, there are plenty of RS-232 to fiber converters on the market, or go Ethernet with a NET-ENI. If you go wireless, you can use Data-Linc wireless modems (Encompass partner). n"}
{"text": "### Human: Motion planner scan order? Hi there, Anyone knows in what order the axes are dealt with by the motion planner? Is this automatically resolved, so that (when possible!) a whole sequence of MAGs (and MAPCs) is always fully evaluated every Coarse Update? Think: (Axis) -> MAG -> (Axis) -> MAG -> (Axis) Or do I need to arrange the axes by means of naming etc so that complete one-scan evaluation is achieved? Thanks a lot! ### Assistant: A clarification: Take the example (Axis 3) -> MAG -> (Axis 2) -> MAG -> (Axis 1) Assume that the motion planner evaluates Axis1 first, then Axis2 and last Axis3. That would make Axis1 operate on 2 Course Update Times old values from Axis 3. The question again: Is the motion planner smart enough to evaluate Axis 3 first and Axis 1 last, or is there another way to control the scan order? I don't usually revive old topics, but here goes. Yes, the software will take the result of the MAG between 2 and 3 and pass it to 1. However, this is not a recommended approach. The error between each successive axis will build. You should always have a master virtual axis that multiple axes gear or cam to. So: Virtual -> MAG -> Ax3Virtual -> MAG -> Ax2Virtual -> MAG -> Ax1 That's good news, that the motion planner evaluates the axes in the right order. You say the error between each successive axis will build. Is this true only if we do MAG or MAPC from the ActualPosition of a Physical Axis, or also if we follow a CommandPosition or a Virtual Axis? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem activating FT AssetCentre Server For testing purposes I configured a Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition machine and a Windows XP SP2 client machine, both in VMWare.On the server I used the ToolKit 2008 (my company is System Integrator) to install FT Activation Server and FT AssetCentre Server, both are CPR7. On the client I installed FT AssetCentre Client using the FT AssetCentre Server. Now I'm ready to activate the FT AssetCentre Server, but there's a problem. On the Activation Certificate delivered with our ToolKit I can only find a Serial number, there's no Product Key and License type, both are N/A. Anyone knows how I can activate my software? Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: What you need is to call Technical Support Center for your region; giving them your Serial Number, they will reply to you the Product Keys you need. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with FT Activation Server For testing purposes I configured a Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition machine and a Windows XP SP2 client machine, both in VMWare.On the server I used the ToolKit 2008 (my company is System Integrator) to install FT Activation Server and FT AssetCentre Server, both are CPR7. On the client I installed FT AssetCentre Client using the FT AssetCentre Server. All is fine so far. But now I get after rebooting the server the error that the FT Activation service cannot be started. Trying to start it manually fails either. In the EventViewer the error The FactoryTalk Activation Service service terminated unexpectedly appears in both cases. I did try to re-install the FT Activation Server, but that didn't help. Now I'm stuck. Does anyone knows what's going wrong and how this can be solved? Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: Have a look to the following Technote: Aid 42300 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarm List pops up when alarm present Hi,Maybe this is the way it its intended to work, but the application I am working with it would be great if the alarm list was visible only when the operator pushed the button to go to that screen. Anybody know of a way to keep thealarm list passive while alarms are posted? Thanks for your assistance. ### Assistant: In the Alarm Setep goto the Messages Tab. To the right of the message there is a colum labled Display. Uncheck all messages you wish not to popup the alarm banner. Now you will need to creat a link to an alarm page. Thank you Crapple. I will do what you recommend. Is the link to the alarm page on the third tab of the configuration window you mentioned? Thanks again.. If you realize what capple wrote, then you need a goto button in your displays to let the operator to *call* the Alarm List page.Best use of this solution is when you need to have some alarms that you want to show in a pop-up banner and some alarms not displayed but only retained in the history. What you mentioned in the Advanced Tab, is the display that automatically opens when an alarm is triggered; you may also leave this field empty, so that you will obtain to never open a pop-up with an alarm triggered. The two methods are explained in the following technotes from KB: Aid 44862Aid 45161 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy and Crapple,I have the goto button, with Crapple's initial comment of unchecking the display box all is well. Thanks for your replies. cRapple that's funny :smileyvery-happy: but its capple no trouble. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Messaging from compact logix L35E to powerflex 4m via DSI I have been following the instruction that come with the SM2 module but I keep getting error code 16 ### Assistant: tiddlemouse, it would be useful to see some screenshots of your messages setup; could you please attach them to a post (they should be saved as .jpg) ? Meanwhile, have a look to the USER MANUAL for -SM2 module, at page 7-19 is an useful example of message read setup; be careful to compile correctly the Message Path and the Instance of the object you need to retrieve value from (parameter number). - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, where do i find a list of instance numbers to match powerflex 4M parameters? tiddlemouse, simply refer to the User Manual for your drive; instance is just the parameter number, taking not care of the group letter. For every drive in Multi Drive configuration, there is an instance starting number (see table at page 5-3 in the User Manual of -SM2); Instance 0 of Drive 0 is instance 17408.So, for example:Drive 0 Output Current (param d003) is Instance 17411 (17411 - 17408 = 3)Drive 1 Output Current (param d003) is Instance 18435 (18435 - 18432 = 3) Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy I'm still having trouble with the messagingi'm using the example in the SM2 user manual but when i enter the attribute number of 1 it changes the service type to paramater read instead of get attribute single i'm using instance number 20884 because i'm using drive 2 on channel 3 ( only one a can run on site) 20884-20480=404 jog frequency in a powerflex 4Mi have attached a snap shot for you .Thanks Tiddlemouse Made the image smaller to fit on the page better - JHutch tiddlemouse, what is wrong here is the Message Path... :smileysurprised: In your message you've indicated only the SM2 card, but you have to add also its port (2) and the Channel number(3 for your example)Service Type is correct (manual isn't so new, Attribute 1 is really a Parameter Read and newer versions of RS5000 have this description).Instance is also correct as per your example. Not sure about the flag over Connected, but I think should be better not to use it. I've attached some screenshots, your message should work with these settings.Be sure to have SW2 over the SM2 in MultiDrive position. Hope this helps... let me know. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy All sorted thanks for your help :smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Best Way To Improve Tag Write Performance from VBA? Hello all - I am writing to several tags within various VBA subroutines and have noticed very poor performance (i.e.: setting 5 tags in a single subroutine will take several seconds to complete). Are there any best practices to follow in order to improve this? Thanks! ### Assistant: pittpanther, I guess you're talking about RSView32... :smileytongue: Have a look to these KB notes: Aid 44389Aid 3595Aid 4997 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Is this as Fuzzy suggests – RSview32 or is it RSViewSE? It is important because the methods of communicating are different. The timing you give is reminiscent of RSViewSE V3.0. Thank you for the responses fuzzy logic and Yorkshire Man... I was referring to RSView32. Aid4997 seems to have helped (utilizing a tag collection). The only caveat is that your tags of interest have to be query-able with a wildcard string (i.e.: have to be in the same folder, etc.) Thanks again! n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS500 i had someone show me how to change the picture to the rsi graphical online icon once, how do you do that, thank you, i know that it is not a really technical question, but would like to remember how i did this ### Assistant: You have to right click over the online icon, keeping ctrl button pressed on your keyboard; then you have one row more in the selection, named animation...:smileywink: - fuzzy logic thank you fuzzy, just had to know that, i am sure you know the feeling, thank you n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747-SCNR Rev 1.3 Compatiblity We're wanting to upgrade a location with 1756L1 CPU's, ACNR15's, CNB rev D to latest firmware. From website, we know we can go to Version 13, and all associated FW shown in the table for the CLGX gear. But, we also communicate to a SLC 500 with 1747SCNR Rev 1.3. Where do I go to find out if it will also be compatible? ### Assistant: yomama, I'm unable to find out a piece of paper that states what you need to know... :smileymad: Anyway, there is an information about this in the RSNetworx release notes: Establishing peer-to-peer connections between a SLC 500 processor and a ControlLogix scannerThis application note covers the concepts and procedures that are necessary to establish peer-to-peer connections between a SLC 500 processor and a ControlLogix scanner using RSNetWorx for ControlNet (release 2.51 or later) and RSLogix 5000 (release 2.10 or later). Also there is a technote on this communication in KB: Aid 20183 I have version 3.00 of RSNetworx for Cnet; there you can only find a Series A 1747-SCNR, like the one you have, to insert in the network.(in last RSNetworx version 9.00 there is also version 2 of that module). So I think we could assume that, if the connection between CLX and SCNR worked in version 3.00, it worked with series A of SCNR. That is the only I may consider on it... hope this helps... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Starting RSLinx Classic from a DOS-Box with different projects I stored 3 projects on a RSLinx Classic. They all have different Topics. Is it possible to start RSLinx with parameters to set witch project should be started? thx for answers ### Assistant: AlexB, I've a solution for you... :smileyvery-happy: Just a short Disclaimer:Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might require that you reinstall the operating system. Rockwell Automation cannot guarantee that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk. Always back up your registry before making any changes. This solution is not provided by Rockwell Automation, it is not supported at all and is provided for testing purpose only. :smileysurprised::smileywink: You have to create three .reg file (using a text editor) that write the Default DDE Project Key before start RSLinxClassic. Example of a .reg file that will charge the DDE project named Default: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARERockwell SoftwareRSLinxProject] Default=Default Example of a .reg file that will charge the DDE project named NewDDE: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARERockwell SoftwareRSLinxProject] Default=NewDDE In the same folder of the .reg files, you may add different batch files (.bat) to load the right registry and start RSLinx. Example for the first DDE project: echo off net stop RSLinx regedit -s RSLinxProject1.reg echo *************************************************************** echo * echo * RSLinx Default DDE Project has been loaded echo * Press a button to start RSLinx Classic echo * echo *************************************************************** pausecd cd Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLINX start RSLINX.EXEexit RSLinxProject1.reg is the name of one of your .reg files.Be aware to use the RSLinx.exe path correct for your installation. Now only needs is to start RSLinx using the batch file instead of the usual shortcut... - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy Logic I´ll try this method. I found a similar solution. It is possible to use the backup/restore function. I made three backups of my different project.On startup I select which file to be restored and after that starting my visu system. example: @echo off REM REM SETLOCAL net stop RSLinx Classic net stop Harmony REM sleep 5 if %1X==1X goto L1 if %1X==2X goto L2 goto L1_2 :L1 SET LINE=1 echo Restore RSLinx Line %LINE% runas /savecred /user:opcserver C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLinxbackupcmd -r -f:D:uvisuLine1.rsx goto END:L2 SET LINE=2 echo Restore RSLinx Line %LINE% runas /savecred /user:opcserver C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLinxbackupcmd -r -f:D:uvisuLine2.rsx goto END:L1_2 SET LINE=1_2 echo Restore RSLinx Line %LINE% runas /savecred /user:opcserver C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLinxbackupcmd -r -f:D:uvisuLine1_2.rsx goto END :END echo Starting Procon-Win ... sleep 5 start /DC:PROCON-WINVisuC /B C:PROCON-WINVisuCpro-win.exe D:pcsprjct echo Done. ENDLOCAL - Alex Ok AlexB, thanks for you feedback and your solution posted... could be useful also for other users. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How can I save the Panelview Plus alarm log file? I have a Panelview Plus 1500 firmware v5 on an ethernet network and would like to be able to save the alarm log file to a usb drive or pc via ethernet. I have read knowledgebase ID 53963. It says to go to the Panelview Explorer Startup window. Is that the internet explorer page that opens up with the IP address? I can access the IE page on all my ENBTs but none of my PVs. Please tell me if I am wasting my time. ### Assistant: cthede, the technote mentioned in your post is referred to Panelview Component, not Panelview Plus... :smileysurprised:You have to use an utility to save the log to an external card (Aid 35513) and another utility to view the History file (file viewer Aid 33924) Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to go online to SLC5/03 using Channel 0 configured as DF1 Half Duplex Slave We have a SLC 5/03 with its Channel 0 configured for DF1 Half Duplex Slave communications. How can I connect online through Channel 0 through RSLinx (v2.51). I tried using the DF1 Polling master driver with the appropriate settings, but was unsuccessful. ### Assistant: RS, are you connecting thru PC serial port RS-232 or a USB converter ?USB to serial converterts usually create comm problems... Double check your cable (it should be a 1747-CP3)Then, be sure which is the node number of your SLC... have you a snapshot to attach of port setup in RS500 ? Be aware to not use other driver in RSlinx that try to access the COM port you've configured for Polling Master... also double check there isn't other software that tries to do this... Finally the settings in RSLinx, DF1 polling master should reflect the setting of SLC CH0 (node number, speed, error checking etc.) There is a technote in KB on that.... Aid 22416 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerMonitor 3000 data in RSView32 I want information on how to get information from PowerMonitor3000 into RSView32 directly without using any CPU or RSPower software and using only RSLinx. ### Assistant: RS, there is a document that explains step-by-step how to create DDE/OPC topic in RSlinx to get datas transferred from Powermonitor 3000 to RSView32 via ethernet. Aid 34730 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Opens the FactoryTalk Administration Console. I cannot logon to admin console. After username, password entered, it hangs up with hour glass Regards Raj ### Assistant: Vid, some informations are missed here...:smileytongue: Which is the software version are you using ? (CPR7 or CPR9 - Studio v4 or v5)From where are you trying to login? (Development PC, Client, Server)Did you change users and passwords after installation of the software?Did you try to use Administrator as user and leave empty the password field? The more effort you put into Forum posts, the more help you can expect to receive. :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Hi, The software is Plantmetrics CPR7 development stage.Recently, we completed a project using PlantMetrics (CPR 7) and RSSQL. I attempted to link a new set of Tags from the controller to PlantMetrics via 'Performance Parameters'. However, this was unsuccessful and caused the OEE graphs to all display 'Not Fully Initialized'. When we attempted to create a new database from scratch, I was unable to correctly configure the database connectors via the Server in 'RSBizWare Enterprise Manager' as the warning message of You have not configured your Transaction Manager kept appearing when there was nothing in the box other than the configured OLE Connector. Finally, when I tried to create the Servers Applications for PlantMetrics in the FactoryTalk Administration Console, I was unable to open the program [FactoryTalk Administration Console] as it kept freezing and I was unable to proceed. Hope this explain the situation Vid, you may want to try the following technote, if it is your OS mentioned... Aid 40098 It is related to hanging in FactoryTalk Admin Console... Also check the Aid 27476 for Planmetrics not fully initialized error. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTMetrics / Report Expert : Removing items from the parameter list Using FTMetrics CPR9, SQL 2005, and Report Expert. Many of the pull-downs on the left pane for parameters are pre-populated. I was wondering where this list comes from, as we would like to remove some that are not applicable to our application. Ex: In the grouping pulling down, I can select Part Description. I've been told that this does not apply to FTMetrics (I wish it did though). I would like to remove this item, as well as Site, Ideal Cycle Time, etc.. Thanks... ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Anyone using FTView on an xp64 machine? I know that using FT View on Windows XP 64 bit is not supported by Rockwell yet, but is anyone using this configuration? If so, have you encountered any problems with it? We have a couple of computers that are brand new and we are unable to put 32 bit Windows on them. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,Richard ### Assistant: Richard, I've not an answer for you... :smileytongue: Just I want to add a reference to the Technote with Supported OS for these softwares... maybe useful for reference for other users...:smileywink: As you wrote FactoryTalk View is neither qualified or supported on this OS... Aid 20450Aid 42682 - fuzzy logic I am not officially recommending this, just for informational purposes Until built and qualified for 64bit, you need use the WoW64 subsystem that allows 32bit environement applications to run unmodified. Without that I can tell you, you are likely to be dead in the water. The registry changes alone will kill this. The other big problem would be some of the communication drivers, if going over ethernet you should be fine, but don't be trying to configure a PIC driver. We can debate about whether we can get View to work on WinXP64, but for my money it's never worth it. You may get it to work, but even if you do the odds are that there will be various problems of varying degrees. This is no slam on Tech Support, but none of them will be able to help you because they don't have that operating system installed. My personal rule is that if it is not spelled out explicitly in the list of supported operating systems, it's not worth messing with it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: As stored in memory card 1784-CF64 using a ladder instructions ? If possible store the memory card 1784-CF64 using a ladder instructions on the CompactLogix in mode Remote RUN ? ### Assistant: At this moment, there isn't a way to use a ladder program to store the program to CF card in CompactLogix. :smileysad: Also, the storing procedure require the processor to be in Program Mode... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: scantime micrologix1100 I search for the value of scan time of the micrologix1100. I dont find it.How many msec/K ? ### Assistant: Have a look to this technote: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46961 The typical scan time seems not to be published, on the document in the link you may find all the instructions execution time.:smileyindifferent: Post is old... but now there is an answer... :smileyvery-happy: Attached a screen shot from last Selection Guide - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 8 way Analogue input card problem (1746-NI8) I have an existing installation with a 4-slot chassis housing a 5/03 CPU series C with 16k mem, in slot 3 I have a 1746-NI8 8-way analogue input card, all the inputs are set to 4-20mA inputs, all the inputs are working fine apart from the last three (I:3.5,I:3.6 and I:3.7), these last three are reading 0 all the time, I have had the processor replaced and the input card, the only thing left is the rack, could this be causing the problem or am I missing something silly?Any help would be appriciated. ### Assistant: Nutty, just some considerations to analyze better the issue: Obviously the channel are enabled...?! :smileysurprised:You may verify this reading the channel status... attached an image from Manual with status words explained..Then, the settings correspond to the device connected... ?! After double check of the above, did you try to swap, if possible, a device connected on a working channel connecting it to a non-working channel to see what happens ? Did you configure the module with RS500 Configuration Mask or via ladder logic? - fuzzy logic Fuzzy logic, thanks for the quick responce,I'm a bit sketchy with the Allen Bradley's, as far as I can tell the channel is enabled, and the setting are all correct as the working inputs, I have tried a working input in the non-working channel, and the non-working channel still read 0, I have also put the device from the non-working channel into a working channel and had the correct reading. As for the configuration, it has been carried out using ladder, the whole machine came from the manufacturer quite some time ago, it has been installed in Ireland and apparently the input never worked, we have now taken over the site and I have been sent into try and fix the problem, obviously the machine is now out of warrenty.Nutty Nutty, if you want, I may try to have a look inside your ladder program... I have sent you a Private Message here in the Forum with my mail address... send me your PLC program.... - fuzzy logic Nutty, I've found your problem... :smileyvery-happy: SOLUTION: You have to Enable your last three channels, the instruction that do this is in Ladder 2 rung 2, value to use to Fill the Output words should be the same as the one in rung 1. Attached a screenshot that may clarify... Hope this helps... Let me know in the forum... - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, Nice one :smileyhappy:, I'm back on site next month so will give it a try and let you know, but looking at that I'm confident you've sorted it.Cheers again.Nutty Thanks Nutty for the feedback you've given and you'll give next month... this is the right use of the forum...I'm afraid not all the users do the same... :smileysad: , but doesn't matter, I've been glad to help you. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS-View ME - Format number I'm trying to find a way to display a Long integer value with 1000-seperator in RS-View ME or SE. Value: 1234567 must be displayed as 1.234.567 Does anyone know a solution for that? ### Assistant: TOBSK, I can't find a manner to do this....:smileysad: However, a more complicated way could be to use the suggestion you may find in the following post:LINKYou may concatenate some variables, inserting the decimal separator between each... only difficulty is to divide the number in PLC in three different tags, maybe by string manipulation... I mean, 123.456.789 could be realized with this text: /*N:3 Numeric1 NOFILL DP:0*/ . /*N:3 Numeric2 NOFILL DP:0*/ . /*N:3 Numeric3 NOFILL DP:0*/ Numeric1 contains first digit (123)Numeric2 contains second digit (456) Numeric3 contains third digit (789) Between them, the dot... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Hi,Thanks a lot for your quick answer. I will think about using your idea or convince the end user that he is able to read the value without the seperator. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1771-NIV Is the low limit for the input range of the 1771-NIS analog current input really 0.1mA (that is 0.0001 A)? ### Assistant: Yes it is. Be aware of Alarm bit - Underrange if you need to go less then 4 mA Attached a screenshot from the manual - fuzzy logic That is the reference I am questioning.It seems curious to me that they would calibrate at 1 and 21 mA if the input range is 0.1 to 21. It popped a flag in my mind that it might be a typo. It seems that both or neither limit and calibration points would match, not just the top. crash, really this happens also on many other analog modules from AB... attached the calibration table for 1756 modules... channel range is 0-20 mA, calibration range 1 - 20 mA... I think -NIS range is correctly indicated as 0.1mA minimum... anyway this module is formatted to be a 4-20 mA input, as per the fact that the scaling low limit is referred to 4mA; anyway the full range can extend beyond this point.Here a technote about the scaling:Aid 16976 In the attached image there is also a note about the scaling and the 0mA value considered. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic fuzzy, look again.Not that we're talking apples to apples anyway, but the example you cited shows input range 0 - 21 and cal range 1 - 20. Notice cal is not pegged at either end? fuzzy, crash.Although I am not as familiar with that product. I am pretty familiar with 4to20ma stuff. Usually you have a input range (where the signal can be detected) and a calibration range (where the signal is linear) If only one is listed, they should be the same. For calibration purposes you want to leave a little of the lienar line hanging over. However, the downside is you loose a little resolution. So often instead of going from -32K to 32K you might only go from -31K to 31K. The difference between these two methods is usually a matter of where you are putting it. In an clean, cool environement, it might be nicer to have the higher resolution. But, in harsher environements you need that bit of gap otherwise deflection can occur and at the upper and lower bounds you can't trust the reading. Also, This device appears to have alarming, for a 4to20 ma system ofcourse anything below 4 +/- a bit and above 20 +/- a bit is the actual range you want to use. Does this clear things up? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Does Processor Memory Used Relate to Performance As a part of the other thread I had started. When the Controller Properties memory used tab reports value in or above the yellow zone can That effect the performance of the Processor? I know with PC's a full hard drive often equates to long program loads and file searches. ### Assistant: capple, of course keeping a controller in this level of used memory isn't the best solution (as you already know... :smileywink: )Around in manuals you may find notes like the following: Keep your used memory within the green area. Once the used memory is in the yellow, the controller may not have enough memory for runtime communication. - fuzzy logic I has a situation some time ago where the max memory used was up to the yellow zone. I was then not able to edit some of the larger function block routines that were in the controller. When I tried to edit them it would give me an insufficient memory message. Had to upgrade the controller to one with more memory in order to gain editing access of those routines. Not fun...but understandable. it's true that as wireguy's saying ,you would come across some problems while you try to edit a large funtion block rountine when the memory used was up to yellow line,and i have no other way only to go offline and separate the rountine into two small one.But for this problem ,i just hope that ,one day , a on line edit of funtion block can be done as the way wemake it in the ladder rountine ,you don't need to put the total rountine into edit mode ,but only the special rung you want n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk ME program transfer utility error Launch transfer utility and gets RSLinx Enterprise Comms Tree ActiveX Control could not be loaded. Please reinstall RSLinx Enterprise. I get this message when trying to transfer a file from FactoryTalk View ME to a PanelView Plus 1000. I reinstalled FactorTalk View ME and RSLinx Classic with professional key. All of the software was upgraded in May.The bulletin says reinstall RSLinx Enterprise and nothing else. Is RSLinx Enterprise the same as RSLinx Classic with profesional key? I can't transfer the program using a compact flash card due to the fact that our vendor forgot to program an escape to configuration button! Is there some kind of reset to not auto load the application? thanks! ### Assistant: zzz, RSLinx Enterprise is not the same as RSLinx Classic... you need to install RSLinx Enterprise from your FactoryTalk View Studio CD.This is needed to transfer the application to a PVP. Anyway, in order to get the Configuration screen, you may do the following : restarting your PVP, you will see a white box in the left down corner of the screen; press it if you have a touch terminal (or press F1 if you have a keybord PVP) until you'll get the Configuration screen. This is only valid from PVP firmware version 4.00.12 and above. Or you may use the utility as explained in the following technote: Aid 26037 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Windows 2008 Server Standard Edition I am replacing a Server that Runs our RSView32 Project. Has anyone installed RSView on Windows 2008 Server O.S.???? Thanks. I can't seem to find the info/updates I need with Rockwell on this. ### Assistant: I think this operating system is not yet supperted by Rockwell. :smileysad: For sure it isn't supported by new ViewSE, so I think RSView32 is the same or worse... In this LINK a technote with compatibility matrix for Rockwell Software products. - fuzzy logic Thanks for the Link fuzzy n"}
{"text": "### Human: Show Display-Form if tag has the value 1 Hello, Want to do: My process is running. When the status of a Boolean changes to 1 (True-State), the process will stop and a choice has to be made (by operator) to continue. To make that choice, I want a Pop-Up to be displayed when the Boolean changes to 1. Is that possible? In short: Show a Display-form (PopUp.gfx) when a tag (Boolean) has the state 1. ### Assistant: Tom, you have to use VBA to do this... Here a post from another Forum that explains the why and a method to realize it - LINK Also I know there is the possibility to use the event Change in Tag or TagGroup classes. Here others links that maybe useful.LINK 1LINK 2 Maybe other users have already the complete source code for that...I'm not too expert on VBA... :smileysad: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Tom, I've used tech note 22007 frequently to do the sort of automatic popups you describe. Using a NumericDisplay or NumericInput object tends to simplify the VBA code so I don't need to bother with TagGroups. Basically you create a graphic that always runs and has one of these two objects in it. When the tag for that object changes state, check to see if it is the go state (i.e. Bit = 1). If so, use the ExecuteCommand method to run the Display command from that client. That will do the trick! Ok, that works fine! Thank you both n"}
{"text": "### Human: lost usb dongle with activations We shipped a pc to another plant to use and the usb dongle did not make the trip. Is there a way of replacing it? ### Assistant: Replacing the dongle requires purchasing another one. As far as allowing them to use the software without the dongle. You can follow the rehost proceedure and host the license to another device. Thanks for the info. To be more specific, the dongle had the keys on it from another computer. SteveB, normally the usb dongle fuctions the way mentioned below. A Dongle is a USB hardware device that gives out an address (Host ID), that your activation is tied to. You can purchase it from your local distributor, the part # is 9509USBDONG. NOTE it is not a Memory stick, you can not save your activation file on a it. Your Activation file has to be saved on every computer that will use the software in the activation directory. i.e. C:Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellActivations. Your new software will activate when you attach the Dongle. So dont worry about the .lic file it is stored in your pc in the address C:Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellActivations. So you just need to purchasea new dongle.hope it helps.:smileywink: Informations from vikas clarify the Dongle use; this and other useful infos on FactoryTalk Activation could be find in the following technote: Aid 35251 Anyway you will need to Rehost your activations to the new Dongle; the following technote is specifically on that: Aid 44620 There is an exception on that procedure: if the activation file has been deleted, you cannot use the website to rehost. You must call Rockwell Technical Support. - fuzzy logic Thanks for the help! This is my first experience with a dongle. I am from the old school!!! n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC with GSM modems Dear AllsI thought it is quite simple to get the remote plc connected to pc using gsm modems at two ends but there is some problem i am not able to configure. I have Micrologix 1100 connected with gsm modem thru channel 0 and PC running rslinks with another gsm modem. two modems are data enabled. I have to use rslinks dialler to connect to other end modem which has to be in autoanswer mode. How do i do that?thanks in advance to all the support i keep on getting!! ragni ### Assistant: ragni, following you may find an useful link to a guide that explain how to configure and use RSLinx in order to connect to a PLC thru modems... it is for Analog modem, but I have tried that setting also with GSM with success.Use the 9300-RADKIT help for Micrologix.Only be sure that the modem or the SIM cards you use are enabled for traffic of datas by your GSM operator. http://www.rockwellautomation.com/services/remote/modems/dialin/get/RADM1Bv.1.zip Hope this helps, let me know....:smileywink: - fuzzy logic ragni, any news about your GSM connection ? Could be interesting, also for other users that read this thread and need the same, to have some feedback from you... :smileywink: Thanks...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSMACC Activations Hi What activations need a RMACC Client? Thank, Bernardo ### Assistant: Hi, have a look to the image below.... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connecting 6176M-15PT monitor to SLC500 How would i connect the industrial monitor to SLC500. would it require me to get a module? If so which one? Thanks ### Assistant: AdeelR, the catalog number you've specified is reguarding an Industrial Monitor... no way to connect it to an SLC... :smileysad: But true question could be: what do you want to obtain connecting a monitor to the PLC ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy logic!I want to connect a big touch screen monitor to SLC500? Can i do that, and with what? Is there anything like this in the AB product line? AdeelR, I guess you need to connect an Operator Panel to the PLC, to use it as HMI... :smileytongue: Have a look to the following link: AB Operator Panels Panelview lines cover you request, max display size is 15... Otherwise you may use an industrial PC, then you may connect to it a monitor of the size you like; here another link to AB Industrial PC and monitors lines: Industrial PCs Over the PC you may run an HMI software like FactoryTalk View ME/SE, to interact with the PLC database. FactoryTalk View Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thanks, but wow!! these panels are expensive!!! Take a look at the PanelView Component line (http://www.ab.com/eoi/graphicterminals/panelviewcomponent.html). They are relatively cheap compared to other EOI devices. They were initially designed for use with the MicroLogix line of processors, which are the lower-end of the processors we offer. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Possible to Automatically Logout User in RSView32 Before Datalogs Automatically Stopped? Hello all - I am trying to ensure the Logout command is executed before my RSView32 project is shudtown, and specifically, before my Datalogs are shutdown. I tried placing the Logout function in a Shutdown macro, but based on the Activity Log Viewer, it appears that the datalogs are 1st automatically shutdown by RSView32 *before* the Shutdown macro is executed. Is there another place I can trap the Shutdown event (as opposed to the Shutdown macro), possibly before the datalogs are automatically shutdown? Thanks! ### Assistant: Hi pittpanther, I think you may use a button in the project to stop the RSView32 application.By this button you may at first send Logout command, then the Quit command, to stop RSView32 project. Try to see if this make the Logout happens before the Datalog off. - fuzzy logic Pittpanther, there are various ways you could do this, some easier than others. One way would be to configure your shutdown button to issue the following commands: Logout; Pause XX; Quit. You would change the value of XX in the Pause command to some integer that gives you consistent results. This way the Logout executes, then the Command Interpreter pauses a number of seconds before issuing a Quit command. Hope that helps. Thank you both for the replies and suggestions. Unfortunately, I cannot rely on a shutdown button (i.e.: there may be times when the application is shutdown via CTRL-ALT-P and that Shutdown Project button). I was hoping for a way to trap the shutdown event (regardless of how it is triggered). Thanks again! How about this - disable Control-Alt-P and use your own custom Global Key definition to handle the shutdown. In this setup, the Global Key would execute the Logout; Pause XX; Quit. That should take care of things. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Dual Ethernet adaptor at Computer to talk to 1756-EN2T for Ethernet network redundant I heard there is windows driver can do the ethernet teaming and load sharing between dual Ethernet adpator installed at one computer,I try to use this method to do the redundant ethernet network for FTView SE server/client application. does any one know what exact how to implement it? need additional licensed windows driver? FTView SE 5, Windows XP SP3, DELL server ### Assistant: Teaming is normally handled by the manufacturer software from the paired network adapter. I have not heard of a Windows driver that can do this. In order to properly configure this you will need to consider the network infrastructure attached to the adapters. For starters refer to the following documentation:http://www.ab.com/networks/architectures.htmlhttp://www.ciscosystems.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Verticals/EttF/ApD_EttF.html n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 I would like to know if trere is any thing that I can do for remove the SFC forces. I did remove all SFC forces, that disebled all SFC, but the red del still there, and I still have the aption remove all SFC forces. ### Assistant: passy, seems you are in the case of a known issue of Logix5000 controllers frn version 13 to 15 on some shipped hardware... There is a temporary workaround: To avoid this problem, insure there are no SFC forces in either version of the routine before assembling, canceling, or finalizing your edits. ...the best is to upgrade the firmware of your controller to v16 or v17... Search for it at the following link: http://support.rockwellautomation.com/ControlFlash/ Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-L61 to 1771-IFE/c and 1771-OFE1 comms I am looking to communicate from a 1756-L61 through a 1756-CNB/E card to 1771-IFE/C and to 1771-OFE1 communications through CLX Block Transfer Read/Writes. I have configured as per tech note 21609 and also based on Appendix D of Publication CNET-UM001C-EN-P November 2005 but it is not working. Half slot addressing selected on dip switches and configured in Control Net File for Adapter. In the CLX I/O configuration, after scheduling the network, there are no warning triangles on the 1771-ACN15 Adapter and in the properties of this Module the status says Running. The status of the configured message in the ladder logic says Communication Failure with an error code of 16 ### Assistant: AlanGEA, it is not easy to understand for sure what is happening here, but it seems to be related to poor buffers resources in the system. There are two docs that you may go thru:Aid 29025Aid 21193 If it is the case, you may try to activate only one BT in your program, leaving all the others inactive; just to see if the error comes anyway. Are the Analog cards the only connection active thru CNB ?Is the controller connected also to other systems, using other MSGs to communicate to ? Try to minimize, as suggested above, the number of MSGs active in the system, to see if the situation still remain the same. I think the version of analog modules shouldn't be an issue. Hope this helps... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Preserved Download Tool Does anybody use the new RS5000 Data Preserved Download Tool? I get an error (Update Process Completed Unsuccessfully, Invalid Communications Path) trying to download to a RS Emulate 5000 Emulator CPU via Virtual Backplane...Only real processors works fine (CLX,CMX) but no way to get it work with Emulator. Obviously path is correctly configured and linked to the project.I've also downloaded v1.2 of the tool.Aid 54946 explains that Virtual Backplane could not be used with Softlogix in order to download... RS Emulate 5000 is not mentioned, but I think problem is the same...Any suggestion or info ? Thanks,- fuzzy logic ### Assistant: I have not used the new tool yet. Still using the lovley Tag Value Upload/Download tool V2.6.2 that also comes free with tools. But you do need RSlinx Classic (but not lite version). n"}
{"text": "### Human: Adding tags to existing ODBC datalog I have an existing datalog writing to an ODBC connected SQL database from FTView SE5. I added 4 new tags to the existing datalog model, but the tables are not being updated with the data from the new tags. Additionally, I do not see the tag name in the Tag table. The data is set to write an entry every 1 minute. I have started and stopped the datalog model, and also rebooted the HMI server. Before upgrading to version 5, I was able to add new tags to an existing datalog and have the data written. Any suggestions? Thank you, Jamie ### Assistant: JMeyers, I've tested it with ViewSE version 5 and it works as you want. Just I've shutted down the datalog, added the new tags to model, restarted datalog.... :smileysurprised: I've created the ODBC datalog from scratch, using the procedure from the following technote: Aid 39707 - fuzzy logic fuzzy- Thank you for the reply. I had the datalog shutdown when I added the new tags, and then restarted the datalog. I have verified that the tags still exist in the dlg model after the reboot. I have had this project running with ODBC tables for the past 5 years and have added numerous tags to existing datalogs, and new datalogs where needed. There are approximately 45 datalogs in the project. I am going to try to see what happens if I add these 4 tags to a new dlg model with a new OBDC table. I haven't had any issues in the past with this, so I'm at a loss to figure out what is going on. Thanks, Just one thought - If you are using some nasty db such as MS Access - make sure you have not hit a table columns limit (think is 255). n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelviewPlus to RS5000 Emulate Does anybody know how to setup the RSLinx Enterprise Target Path in order to communicate from PVP to a PC with a RS5000 Emulator Controller via Ethernet ? For testing purpose I want to use RS5000 emulator to run a simple program and show some tags on PVP displays. Obviously no problem about the Local Path, FactoryTalk View Studio is on the same PC as the Emulator...:smileyhappy: Thanks in advance, I can't find out a KB note on that.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic ### Assistant: My first thought was that you can't do it - thought I remembered hearing that it is not possible to connect to an emulator remotely. However, I just read tech note 37738 which states that the emulator can use a serial driver. If this is correct, then the target tab would use a Serial DF1 driver and would be configured for a Logix processor at whatever station # you are using. So no ENET/DNET/CNET or DH+ connections, but a serial link may do it. I'd be interesed in hearing if this works. I know that the official word from PV+ product group is that Emulate is not supported from the PV+ (you can use it in Studio for development, though). As far as the serial work around ... it might work. You're basically on your own, though. JHutch This is a little tricky with the emulator and I have had mixed success, but I have used the tech note on connecting to remote OPC servers from PVP and then used RSLinx Classic Gateway to access the emulator. The easier way is to use SoftLogix and then put Ethernet module in virtual backplane. Many thanks to all for suggestions... I've found a trick to make it work... I understand that this is neither a supported nor a suggested way...but works ! Following a screenshot: I've declared in Target a Softlogix Ethernet/IP using PC IP address (I've used slot 16...really the slot is empty as Emulate has not this possibility, like Softlogix as) and in virtual backplane the processor at right slot. I'm using it with a Virtual Machine. Obviously it is only for testing; it could be useful, anyway... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Linx Classic Lite Having trouble hooking up to a machine with RS5000 and a ethernet connection.We have version 2.51.00.21 (CPR7) Linx Classic Lite, do we need a updated version? If so which one?We are running Windows XP Professional version 2002 SP2 on our Laptop.We are using driver AB_ETH-1.In RSWho we don't see anything below the backplane. Thanks In Advance bowler ### Assistant: bowler, some informations are missing here... :smileysurprised: Which PLC ? Which firmware version ?Which Ethernet/IP module ? Maybe what you need is the EDS file (or files) for your devices; you may find it at the following link:http://www.ab.com/networks/eds.htmlOr post the info I request above, and I will be more precise... maybe also a screenshot of your RSLinx - RSwho... Also, of course, you may upgrade RSLinx to the latest version (2.54) that already could have all the needed EDS, unless your devices are so new... from the following link:http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/webupdates/ Search for RSLinx Classic Lite. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic A couple of other things to check: Since you are using the AB_ETH-1 driver, have you configured an IP address for the target devices? Is your laptop on the same subnet as the device. Is the firewall turned off in windows or other VPN type software blocking communications. Are you connecting directly to the device (in which case a cross cable is required)? Other things to remember:-If using the AB_ETH driver then you have configured it by entered the target IP-adress. I assume it is the IP-address of a 1756-ENBT or so. Start the command prompt and try ping it: >ping 192.168.1.100 for ex. You should have a respons if you are connected.-Try using the AB_ETHIP driver. Do not need to specify any IP-addresses. It will look for IP compatable devices. ENBT is such a device. It should turn up when browsing the driver.-Use 100Mb/Full Duplex on all ports-Make sure that both link partners (ENBT port and switch port) have the same port settings in terms of Autoneg on/off. By default Autoneg is on. Then both ports should autosence to 100/Full. If setting autneg to off, then set 100Mb Full duplex on both link partners. If one is on and the other is off then the port that is set to on will only autosence the baudrate correctly. Normally it will result in half duplex.-If using managed switch then enable IGMP snooping to handle multicasting traffic (created by the produc/consume model). Especially if it is a larger network. Multicasting data will only enter the actaul producer of the data - no other ports. Good luck! /PontusRockwell n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logo/Image Printing on Bar Code Printer Is it Possible to print Images / Logos on Bar Code Printers with ASCII Interface ? ### Assistant: Lookhere, usually you can store in the onboard memory of a barcode printer the logos or the images you need, and you can start their printing using ASCII commands.Therefore, if you know from the printer User Manual how is the print protocol format, you may instruct your ASCII module to write this commands out. Otherwise, if you want to complete elseway your question, you may specify from which ASCII interface you need to do that.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769-SM2 Anyone used the 1769-SM2 with an abb drive or other third party devices and have a logix 5000 example to share would be greatly appriciated ### Assistant: asp, take a look to the following link, it isn't with ABB drives...but maybe useful: http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=38758 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: New surplus 1305- Not Enabled Message I acquired a 1305 drive AA08A (2HP) that I hooked up with a Programming Interface 1201-HA1.I tried two interfaces and keep getting a Not Enabled message.Reset defaults on HIM.I run a 1336 on another motor and the Interface runs fine.Have entire manual and they talk about enable signal but not in much specifics.I have 5V on TB2 pin 11 , nothing on 12.Any suggestions if I missed a jumper or setting or is drive bad?Thanks,Rich ### Assistant: As I can remember, you have to close either a contact or a wire between terminals 11 and 12 of TB2 to enable your drive; you can't use an external 5 volts source, it is supplied internally. - fuzzy logic Thanks for your reply. Is there a software command I am missing that you remember?There is a big warning sticker on TB2 about separating out contact between various pins as well as to ground or voltage. The unit came without the programming module attached but it would seem the programming module should be able to enable the drive without me physically adding a wire somewhere.The only reference to pin 11 changing internally from open to closed I found in the manual is regarding a setting for 3 wire or 2 wire operation affecting forward/reverse workings.I am not sure what they mean by 3-wire. I am hooked up to 3 phase but I don't think they mean this.The motor is new and has been tested and runs on a 3 phase hookup. Thanks,Rich glasslight, the enable wire should be used... it is not possible to enable the drive from logic command via network... Attached a screenshot from the User Manual; 2-wire means a run maintained contact, 3-wire means momentary push buttons for Start and Stop with a common wire. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic It works now. Thanks.Jumpering 11 & 12 changed the message and with that knowledge found we also had to jumper 7 and 8.Now have variable airflow on our small spray booth.Richwww.glasslight.com Yes, terminal 7 and 8 are used for stop command and shold be closed together to let drive work. Thanks for your feedback, I'm glad it works ! May you please also mark the thread as solved, using the green button Solution ? over my previous post? Just to give the correct status to the case... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CPR & Compatibility Matrix confusion I am a little confused about CPR's and the Software Compatibility Matrix... We have version 6.30.16 of RSView32 (purchased 6 or 7 years ago) running on Windows 2000. I was looking at the Software Compatibility Matrix to try to determine if I could install my existing RSView32 (and RSLinx, etc...) software on a new Windows Vista Business SP1 computer. According to the Software Compatibility Matrix, it looks like this would work if my existing software was CPR 9 SR1, which I'm sure mine is not since it's so old. 1) How do I know what CPR my software is? 2) Does this mean that I have to purchase new RSView32 software (and RSLinx, etc...) if I want it installed on Windows Vista Business SP1, or can I just upgrade for free, or for an upgrade price? Thank you! ### Assistant: ProCon1, following a description of CPR... CPR stands for Coordinated Product Release The strategy behind a coordinated product release is to ensure that the software works together as a reliable, stable and robust system. Applications that are required to operate as a system will continue to share common platform services and will be designed, developed and tested in a tightly controlled and coordinated process. Also, an useful technote for RSView32 version Compability Matrix: Aid 7144 I don't know if your version is inserted in a CPR as it is too old... anyway you may upgrade it to the last version... simply contact your Rockwell representative to have a quote for a new TechConnect contract. Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic Thank you. I think I understand now. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Direct address from add-on local tag in compact logix to ME application in PV-Plus I have a value in my project which I wish to display on the PanelView Plus which appears only in an add-on instruction as a local tag in the RSlogix 5000 application. Can I directly address to this tag, if so do I need to identify the add-on etc previous to the tag like in an array? ### Assistant: Con Troll, you can't point directly inside a Local Tag contained in an Add-On Instruction... :smileysad: The Local Tags are only visible inside add-on definition logic, and not as members of the data structure for the instances of instruction; you need to transfer the data you need outside, using an output parameter. If you was talking about parameters tags, then you may access them thru the structure you've defined for a particular instance of the instruction.Attached a screenshot with an example. Hope this helps.... :smileywink:- fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy logic :smileyhappy: Thanks to you for the feedback... just could you be so kind to mark the thread as solved using the green solution? button over my previous post? It can be useful for other users to know that it is a correct answer to the request. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000 non index Analog input position control HelloDoes anybody know or have an example how to control position on an Ultra3K with the analog input? I tried but I keep having E19 code, I have no problems if I control speed with the analog input, but on position is not working.Any help will be greatly appreciated ### Assistant: dmtz, try to take a look to the following technotes... unless already done :smileysurprised: Aid 46547Aid 51230Aid 47229 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy logic! I had already see the first two, the third one I dont have accese since my tech connect contract is not ready. My cables are ok, since in velocity control its working, but I increased the following error limit and when i set the start index input i got one movement, but nothing else. Any other ideas??? Thx. dmtz, basically the third technote talk about motor feedback; it states to check it in Ultraware calculating motor feedback counts/revolution and to check if the count value is as expected. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Query Float & String Data together from SQL Database I am logging in FactoryTalk View SE a data log model to SQLExpress using ODBC. The data log model has both string and float tags.I need to use a SQL query to present the data but MSQuery will not allow values (Val fields) from both the String and Float tables to be accessed at the same time.I have tried a number of table joining combinations but none will allow both string and float values to correctly displayed.Has anyone been able to overcome this problem? ### Assistant: BIC05, at first I want to say I'm not so expert in databases managing... :smileytongue:Anyway, I was trying to do the same in MSQuery...The problem you find is related to the fact that the Tag Index, that is usually used as common parameter to join tables, is not valid to make relationship between the three tables... as per the fact String tags have different Tag Index than Float tags... so, it isn't possible to see the correct value for both on the same row.Really, it seems there isn't a common field to use to join... Maybe there is other methods, but I don't know them... - fuzzy logic I would think your only option would be to associate records based on the timestamp. How well that works will depend on the specifics of how you have things set up. My first thought would be to query for timestamps that are equal. I don't know if the actual data will be that convenient. (I'm only just starting to play with the data logger.) My next thought is to query for records that are within a small time increment of each other. Lets say you're logging values every 10 sec, you might query from the two tables with a criteria that the timestamp difference between the two records is less than, say, 3 seconds. Here's a simple example of how that would look: Select * from StringTable as a, FloatTable as b where abs(datediff(s,a.DateAndTime,b.DateAndTime)) < 3 and a.tagindex = 1 and b.tagindex = 0 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communications Hey guys: do you kwon any cause why cannot communicate with a Ultra3000i even if I check all communications parameters, port settings and RSLinx Classic and Enterprise are shutdown?? ### Assistant: Sabre, following some technotes that may help... Aid 47739Aid 49520Aid 34935Aid 46489 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Links in RSLogix 5000 Ver.16 If you define a data link that is type Dint, do you have to leave the next open field undefined? Is each data link field only a word? Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: AJB111,data link length depends upon the drive.i.e normally for pf 70 it is 16 bit i.e one word.for pf 700 it is 32 bits i.e 2 words.So if you want to store 32-bit parameter using 16-bit datalink both datalink a1 & a2 will store lsb and msb respect.Hope it helps. Just to reinforce what vikas have stated... Attached is extracted from 20-COMM-E User Manual; also a screenshot from RS5000 v16 Module Definition for PF70-EC via Ethernet/IP. As you can see, if you select a 32 bit parameter, the software automatically define both A1 and A2 to use the same parameter, and they will contain the LSW and MSW as explained. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: I want somebody helpme in How to descipher or how to interprete the EDS files. ### Assistant: This informations are available in the ODVA site; try to get some info starting from here : LINK 1 LINK 2 In RA knowledge base are also some technotes that describes only a part of it.Aid 42782 Aid 17996 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: factory talk view ME I am wondering if anyone have the same problem when starting the Factory talk view Me in the Startup menu under windowsXP automatically that it comes up with the switch to or retry(server busy) error. Is there a fix for this? I have a concurrent activation and I know that it is actually waiting for the Factory talk activation service come up first or else the FTV ME would hang and wait with this error.Thanks for any input... ### Assistant: It is a known issue... something related to the services that need to be started to let ME start... You just need to delay the auto start of ME station using either Desklock(see Aid 38802 - Aid 32496) or using a batch file (run the batch file with windows startup, then it will launch ME application after a while - last time I use 25 seconds delay...) There are many sources in the web about a batch file command to delay startup of a program... here an example... LINK There are also freeware or shareware programs that do this... Usually I use SLEEP.EXE Aid 9636LINK Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thank you for your reply, I am using the ping in the batch file to delay the FTV Application start up. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk ME Alarm Status List Column add timestamp How To? I have a Panel View 1250 using Alarm Status List with two columns one being Accumulated Time. The customer doesn't like the accumulated time counting up so how do I change it to a fixed timestamp when the alarm was triggered? I would like a simple HMI timestamp because it isn't critical to come from the PLC trigger directly just when the message was triggered. ### Assistant: jdperk, the Alarm Status List object doesn't have this possibility...:smileysad: You may use instead the Alarm List object, selecting the Alarm Time column to be displayed. Following a screenshot... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thank you. The Alarm Status List contain a Status page, History page, and a list of all the alarms it doesn't appear that the Alarm List has the other two pages how can I duplicate those other pages? Another option would be to place the Alarm List over top of the Alarm Status List and use a single button to toggle between the Alarm List page and the other pages of the Alarm Status List, how would one set that up or some variation of this? jdperk, the Alarm Status List is a more complete object than Alarm List; you may use the Alarm Status Button to change which alarms are shown.Really the History is just another display, containing an Alarm List and some buttons; when you press the Alarm History Button in the Alarm Status List, you switch to this page. So what you may create are some pages with different Alarm List inside (for example one that shows Active Alarms, one for Inactive Alarms,one for All Alarms) and some new Goto Display Buttons that switch between them.Use the Alarm List Properties to change what is displayed in the current Alarm List (Display Tab). So the operator can access from the Status page the other pages using buttons. Attached is an example; I've duplicated the same History Page creating a new display Active where the Alarm List is used to show only the Active Alarms, and in the same way an Inactive page.The History page is used to show all (active and inactive) alarms.All these displays (Status,Active,Inactive,History) SHOULD BE of type On Top from Display settings. Finally I've created some new Goto Buttons that let the operator switch between all the displays. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-HSC Do we have to tie the 24vdc common to card and if so where do we do that? ### Assistant: It depends... if you have a Differential Line Driver encoder, you don't need 24 Vdc common.If you use a different source, the Common should be connected to the RET terminal of the input you use (A,B). Aid 41188 See also the screenshot below from User Manual . Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MPF series Motors Where do I find the Encoder counts/rev. for the MPF series motors (single turn)? ### Assistant: Depending on which drive you have there are 1024 Sin/Cos cycles per rev.The Kinetix 6000 interpolates to 2048 x 1024 counts per rev.The Ultra3000 SERCOS interpolates to 1024 x 1024 counts per rev.The Ultra3000 Indexer has programmable interpolation from 4-1024 default is 256. Kevinkt, if you're using RS5000 and Sercos drives, the resolution informations can be found in the Motor Feedback tab in the axis properties after the motor and drive are selected. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000 Indexing Drive I am using an Ultra 3000 in a simple positioning application. The drive is set up for Indexing and being commanded to move from a PLC using the Index control inputs. The axis is also being 'homed' using the Homing control inputs. The problem I am having is making the drive fault out during current overload. The homing target in this application is a removable piece (not a good idea IMO) but this allows for the homing routine to hunt for the sensor and never find it. The axis is moving slowly during homing and eventually runs into a hard stop. But the axis keeps trying and doesn't fault out. I have set the current limits to a safe low limit but the drive just rolls the current back but doesn't fault out in any reasonable time. I have currently set a timeout in my PLC to turn off the Drive Enable line after so much time. I was hoping that the drive would stop on its own instead. Any ideas? ### Assistant: Under faults there is a User Current Fault that will cause the drive to Fault with an E17 when it is exceeded. Thanks alot. That is exactly what I was looking for. I don't know why I didn't see that sooner. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 550 Losing its program I need help! I have a new assembly line that is only 4 months old and twice so far, on 2 seperate robots, the Panelview 550 lost its program in the middle of production. There were no power surges at the times. Does anyone have an idea on how this can happen??? ### Assistant: Some questions in order to better understand the issue... :smileytongue: Did you get an error message on panelview ?Memory was empty or simply application was terminated?Does panelview restart after recharging application? - fuzzy logic No error message immediately. The screen was still lit with a bunch of upside down 5's that made square shapes in the places of where the function buttons would be as if in manual mode. And the screen was also frozen. So we cycled power through the PLC and panelview. When power came back on, the HMI was on the configuration screen and when I tried to go into Run Mode, I got an error 325. I'm not sure if there were any other error codes, but I don't think so. And the only way to get it running again was to download the program back to it using panelbuilder 32. It seems a corruption of the program, but it is not clear to me the why...:smileysurprised:Usually this comes by noise (serial cable, earth ground, power cables near the network cable and so on..).The error 325 is related to the memory card... I guess you've a memory card inside the PV, and the image in it is also corrupted; so the PV isn't able to load the program from there. Attached a screenshot of the error. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic You've probably got the system set to automatically load the app off the memory card ... and something is killing the memory card. Try loading the app on the PV itself and removing the memory card from the equation. If the problem goes away, that would indicate you've got a flaky batch of memory cards. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-HSC has to counter 0 & 1 can we wire same encoder to both? ### Assistant: Bruce40, I've seen many times one encoder connected to two different devices... normally is not a suggested connection due to to the noise that may flow between the two devices over the encoder wires (here really you have the same device...)Also it may happens that the two devices connected may overload the transmitter, due to the internal circuit of the modules (terminating resistors). - fuzzy logic So your saying we can hook the same encoder to both channels or counters on 1756-HSC card. But not a good practice? Like jump the Zo [RET] term 6 to the Z1 [RET] term 5 Yes, I think so... My idea is that in this case it is better to test your application on the module, to see if everything works as expected, because this depends also from your encoder... - fuzzy logic Bruce40, just for your reference, I've done a little test here... I've connected a Single-Ended encoder to the two channels of -HSC; I mean A0+ with A1+ , B0+ with B1+ , Z0+ with Z1+ (from encoder output) Then A0-, A1-, B0-, B1-, Z0-, Z1- to 24Vdc common The counter works fine, counting the same value. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Convert MicroLogix Program to CompactLogix Does anyone have advice on how to convert a MicroLogix program to a CompactLogix? ### Assistant: Here we are.... Aid 38152Aid 5514 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic It turned out to be a little more involved because I needed to convert the ML 1500 program to a SLC 5/04 program first. But Technote #46280 described most of the process. I needed to change all of the ONS instructions in the ML1500 program to OSR instructions in SLC 5/04 and have dummy addresses to replace the ML1500 embedded I/O addresses. I did a search and replace for addresses I:0 and O:0 to change them to I:10 and O:10 in the SLC 5/04 program. From there I was able to save the SLC 5/04 program with a .SLC extension and the comments with a .TXT extension which both are read into RSLogix 5000 using Tools>Translate PLC5/SLC. There was some clean up needed in RSLogix 5000, but it worked fairly well. Thanks for the help. CrazyJ:smileytongue: Linkified for convenience - JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Flex 700 Is it possible to remove the HIM from a Power Flex 700 without faulting Drive??? ### Assistant: Yes, it is... :smileyhappy: Have a look to the following technote... Aid 41437 - fuzzy logic Did you try it? does this solve your problem ? Waiting to hear from you... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-HSC card Configuration Don't seem to find anything in the configuration of this card using a encoder to change direction of counts? Have hooked it up counts up when turned counter clockwise. Would rather it counted up when turned clock wise. We switched the a and b channels going to the card and that seem to work but was hoping to do it through the software. Any thoughts or help on this problem? Thanks ### Assistant: Bruce, unfortunately it is not possible thru configuration of -HSC... :smileysad: See the following, that is the rule for direction Count using X4 counter.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Going online to CLX and RS232 stops... Why? Hi all, I am trying to modify a PLC programme to add few changes. The problem is that everytime I try to go online through Ethernet (1756-ENBT/A, with Electronic Keying disable) the machine stops!!! At the begining we thought it was just a coincidence; we couldn't believe that just going online we would affect the machine. Aparently what it happens it is that RS232 and RIO communications stop and as some device it is communicating with the PLC trhough RS232, the machine stops working. The company that programmed this machine doesn't like us adding anything into their programme, so they are not giving us any info. They use the RIO comms port in order to go online with the machine. Does anybody know what could cause this? the PLC is a 1756-L1, revision 11. Thanks,Mushu ### Assistant: It seems to be related to the communication resources that processor has... L1 was very poor in that; here you have serial comms, RIO and I guess DH+ as you state the other company uses to go online. So, when you try to use Ethernet also, the processor cannot manage all those connections, and start to drop them... If this is the case, it seems not easy to have it work. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Thank you fuzzy logic. I will check the communication resorces of the processor. It seems it could be the reason. I am quite surprise, because I would have expected it could handle all of them. Thanks,Mushu I'm no expert on the CL family ... but I *do* know going online with the processor from RSLogix 5000 is amazingly comms intensive in many respects, so it wouldn't surprise me that Fuzzy is completely right ... JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: A-B Micrologix 1200 & Real Time Clock We have recently install a A-B Micrologix 1200 with a Memory & Real Time Clock card to control a number of pumps in the plant. What we were looking to do was to be able to have a limited cycle time during the weekdays and not have the pumps cycle or have a limited cycle time during the weekend and/or on holidays. So what we're looking for is to have the pumps run on a daily or calendar based time. The info I received showed that the RTC card would work for this application, yet I am unable to get this to work. Any suggestions would help, thanks. ### Assistant: But really which is the problem?Do you have problem to configure/use RTC? Here a technote that helps on that...:smileywink: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=17503 If the problem is another, please post again with more informations...:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Ron, Did you enable the clock? If not go into the funuction file and do so. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Motion Instruction MCD ( Motion Change Dynamics ) Do we have to hold rung true in front of this instruction to get it to work correctly? Or do we just one shot it? ### Assistant: Bruce, take a look to the attached picture... As you see, it executes in one scan normally; anyway it is better to chech the status of .DN bit to make sure everything has gone well.However it is a transitional instruction, so it executes fine with one shot, when rung condition changes from false to true. From RS5000 Ref. Manual Some relay ladder instructions only execute when rung-condition-in toggles from false to true. These are transitional relay ladder instructions. Motion Instruction Reference Manual pagg. 111-117 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Newbie to 1756-HSC Hello, I am a newbie to this HSC card. I was wondering if any one could throw some advice out here for me. The application will simply be an Endress Hauser flow meter sending it's pulses to this HSC card. I have researched it on the knowledge base and have the user manual. Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: Navigate thru this LINK to another post with some useful AID links...:smileytongue: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: I/O Led Status I want to extract the LED status from my IO and comms modules. Can anyone help me with the code to do this? The GSV instruction only returns the Controller's status ### Assistant: Sambo,i think i got a solution.Go thru this. First, create a an Integer tag.In ladder, create a GSV instruction; set the CLASS to MODULE and the ATTRIBUTE NAME to LEDStatus.LEDStatus specifies the current state of the I/O LED on the front of the controller.Note: You do not enter an object name with this attribute because this attribute applies to the entire collection of modules.LEDStatusMeaning (LED color)0LED off: No MODULE objects are configured for the controller (there are no modules in the I/O Configuration section of the controller organizer).1Flashing red: None of the MODULE objects are Running.2Flashing green: At least one MODULE object is not Running.3Solid green: All the Module objects are Running. Hope this helps.:smileywink: The solution you describe is only for the controller. It does not return individual I/O module LED statusses. There used to be, actually still are a knowledgebase article blocked and accessible only to customers with a support contract, which describes how it is done. As Sambo indicates, this GSV instruction using MODULE object is only related to the Controller Leds... :smileysurprised:For the other modules, like I/O and comms, there are different possibilities...but is quite complicated :smileysad:The more easy way is to use GSV to get EntryStatus, also in the MODULE object... that really is not related to the Leds, but gives you the informations I guess you need (this is explained in the RS5000 online help, under GSV/SSV objects)Otherwise, to get the OK led status for your devices, you may use a CIP Generic message, as explained in Aid 26924. As this is a TechConnect reserved docs, maybe you can't access it...:smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: E22 Fault on Ultra 3000 urgent ....please...What may be the causes for E22 on ultra 3000 sercos ### Assistant: Sumesh,i hope i got a solution for you. Question Drive in fault with error code 22 reported Answer Note. The Motor filter concerned resides in the drive and its data is compared with currents commanded to the motor in order to effect this protection, i.e. a software version of a thermal switch. Problem: Motor Filter ON indicates the internal filter protecting the motor from overheating has tripped. Cause: Wrong Motor file Verify: Check motor file in use in software confiiguration Cure: Correct motor file in use in software confiiguration Catalog Number: 2098 Ultra 3000 DocFullNum: E20843 Pls try it out and tell me the results. Hope it helps.:smileyhappy: Sumesh, maybe you need to update your motor database in Ultraware to correct this issue... Here a link to technotes that helps... Aid 38188 Aid 39505 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) or Fault probability / Contact Block 800F-X02D Hi, We use dual circuit contact blocks.Type: 2 N.C. 800F-X02D And we want to know the MTBF or Fault probability or SIL (Safety Integrity Level) of these contactors.Can someone help me with information? Thank you in advance, Koen ### Assistant: APTS, from where I can usually see MTBF for Rockwell Automation products, this information isn't yet available... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: trying to get 2 5/04 on ethernet We have a piece of equipment that has 2 5/04 and a panelview all on DH+. One of the 5/04 already uses the other channel for communication to a PC. If we hook up the 2nd 5/04 to a NetENI, does that enable you to go online with both 5/04? If not, is there a resonable solution to this. Actually 5/04, panelview and PC is really the only one we care about. But since both channels are already used, that is why I was thinking of going the other way, through the second 5/04. ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: George, as per the fact 1761-NET-ENI cannot act as a bridge, you can't do this connection... :smileysad: Anyway, you can go thru CH0 of your SLC to DH+ using serial DF1 driver and enabling passthru; take a look to the following technote. Aid 54625 Another solution is to use ControlLogix Gateway configuration: I mean a CLX chassis, a power supply for it, a 1756-ENBT module (to connect your Ethernet network) and a 1756-DHRIO module (to connect your DH+ devices). You don't need a CPU to obtain this gateway work. :smileysurprised: Then you may see all your DH+ devices thru ethernet... just be aware of the following technote in case you need to download an application to a PV via this gateway. Aid 19393 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How can reset the Communication port-0 in SLC 5/03 processor ? I want to communicate the SLC 5/03. But the Processor not support the DF1 Protocal. I need to reset the communication port. How can reset the Communication port-0 in SLC 5/03 processor?. ### Assistant: The only way you have is to get connected to the PLC... You may use a 1747-CP3 cable with an RSLinx Classic DH-485 driver (1747-PIC/AIC driver) if the port is set to DH-485 Otherwise, if it is for example ASCII, there is no way to get connected.Then you may try on channel 1, using either of these :1747-PIC device from RS-232 of your PC1747-UIC (USB to DH-485)1761-CBL-PM02 (RS-232 to DH-485). Or, you may default the cpu, if you have the last copy of the software that is inside, then you may re-download it, with the new port settings.Aid 43039 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Hi, did you solve the issue ? Would be nice to have some feedback, and, in case, to have you mark the thread as solved using Solution? green button over my previous post... This is useful for other users to see the correct status of the issue... Thanks for the cooperation. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: parameter concept in RSVIEW Mechine Edition I had done the screens & passed the tag using parameter file. it's working nice thorugh GOTO button. but i want to call the parameter file (tags) automatically depends the corresponding screens. And also i have done this in RSVIEW32. is it possible in RSVIEW ME too. ### Assistant: Unfortunately, it isn't possible to change to a parameter file dinamically in ViewME. :smileysad: Have a look to this technote to better understand how parameters work: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=36816 - fuzzy logic Hi, some feedback here.... ?! Maybe the answer doesn't solve the issue, but anyway it gives the explanation of the why it isn't possible to solve it... :smileytongue: In case should be nice you mark this as solved, using Solution? green button over my previous post... Again, iti is the correct way to leave some useful informations in the forum also for other users.... Many thanks for your cooperation... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How can i data transfer between to Micrologi 1100 and SLC-5/05 throght ethernet? Hai all, How can i data transfer between to Micrologix 1100 and SLC-5/05 through Ethernet?. I need data get from SLC-5/05. how many nodes support the SLC-5/05 Channel 0 through modbus. How can i configure the MCM-3150 in SLC-5/05 on slave mode? anybody had a experience kindly share with me. ### Assistant: Tamilmohan, the first answer is inside the following technote: Aid 32926 Then, Modbus master capability for SLC 500 (only from firmware 11 of the cpu) is max 31 slaves... Here a LINK to download some ladder examples for MCM-3150 module and also the User Manual with explanations for Slave mode. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 upload/online question I have a project file that I have downloaded to 5 machines now, all identical machines with same hardware. If I attempt to open the project file and Go Online with any of them, 4 of the 5 require me to upload before being able to actually go online, even though I downloaded to each with the same file. My question is, what would be causing me to need an upload each time? I have uploaded each machine's project file and compared them to my original to find zero differences. It is a big time sink for me to wait for an upload when I have 200+ machines acting this way, all needing a program change/troubleshooting. -many thanks in advance ### Assistant: I think the problem here is that having one file; and downloading to many controllers. So when going back online is finding a mismatch not in the program but in the path or log file, so RSlogix 5000 is requesting upload. In your example I would guess that, the one of the 5 that does not require an upload is the last one you downloded to. Assuming no online edits between times, becasue then an upload would be required for sure. Also try clearing the path to controller if it has been set (set/cleared in the download/upload window) ID 31769 What information does RSLogix software check to determine if changes were made in the processor? Thank you for the reply. Perhaps the path is the problem, but I think I remember clearing it and trying it once before. Thank you for the ID as well; I never found it in my searches. I'll check it all out and hopefully will have everything working as desired. The answer ID was informational but I'm not sure I am seeing what is causing the Upload requirement yet. It reads When RSLogix 5000 goes online, and after it passes both the Create Stamp and Download Stamp checks..., so I tried to see what was going on there. I have a Create and Edit stamp, but do not see a Download stamp; so I moved on to the next phase of the check process. ...if the (change)log has been overrun, a correlation error occurs and an upload is required tells me it would take over 1000 controller edits to require an upload, which I have not met. Due to the system that identifies each component inside Logix Controllers, may happens that two identical downloads often result in different memory layouts. That means that RS5000 has to upload this informations when you try to go online, in order to match the online/offline projects. Also consider that some controls that are involved in the correlation are not documented because of their complexity, that makes them difficult to be explained in a friendly manner. Seems that, based on the above, it isn't recommended to use a single project to download to multiple controllers. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic :( indeed. thank you for the insight. Newbie thought. Would the processor ID number being different cause the request for the upload when moving from project to project with only one file ? ie. Machine 2 has processor ID XYZ123, Last used with the project, Machine 1 has processor ID ABC789 causing a conflict when trying to go online requiring an upload to confirm programs. Later, n"}
{"text": "### Human: Why can only 1 programming station be online with the processor ? Here is the situation: We have an Logix 5000 Processor V15 with 2 programmers on site. They are both working on 2 different machines which are controlled by this 1 processor. When one is connected and online, the other tries to go online at the same time the original connection is dropped. Why ? I have been connected with up to 4 programmers online with another project via ethernet without this issue. Simply going online was never a problem. Making large changes I have seen will kick off other machines. I recently assisted with shop testing another machine with cnet network again with no issues unless someone else made major changes in the program structure. The project is running an L61 processor with Cnet. They are both using PCC cards to go online with the cnet. They are using node 99 and 98 respectively. The machine itself is using 3 flex racks, 2 PVP terminals, and the main rack. I have discussed this with others here in the office and no one else has run into this issue before. Enough detail ? Any suggestions ? ### Assistant: ruskie, try to take a look to the following technote (unless already done :smileysurprised: ) Aid 25961 Check the memory available in Logix CPU properties, should not be on YELLOW. Check the Module Statistics of CLX Cnet module, using RSLinx - right click over it, to see its CPU utlization and connections also. Try to lower the address of your PCC cards, changing also the max Unscheduled address in RSNetworx to macth the higher PCC address (to minimize bandwidth utilization) Hope this helps... let me know. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RecipePlus Recipe View sort order - disable re-sort I am using RecipePlus on a PV1000+ with the recipes on the CF. After editiing, saving and downloading the top ingredient (first on listed) has changed to the last one edited. I want the top ingredient to always be the same when the recipe is opened. ### Assistant: flashbif, I don't know this as a normal behavior on Recipe Plus... Which View Studio version are you using?PanelviewPlus Firmware version ? I know many times the answer is the following... :smileywink: but many many times the solution is there ! Try to install latest patch rollup for your ViewME Studio and the latest firmware inside PVP. Patches Aid 47016- Aid 35779 Firmware LINK Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: how can i read data from other computer via rslinx i mean to make one computer in our network as server,so the other computers can connect to this server via a TCP driver of rslinx, i used to make this sucessful months ago,but this time i don't know what happen, while i try to creat a TCP driver in my computer and i always couldn't find the server.Anybody had come across this kind of condition? ### Assistant: seamoon,can you see your server on the client rslinx?Considering n/w as ethernet ,make sure to configure ethernet i/p devices on rslinx to add up your server i/p.then you may find out your server while configuring remote devices via rslinx.Attached is the screen shot.Pls try it out and tell me the results.:smileywink: seamoon, be sure to enable the Gateway in RSLinx... :smileytongue:After that, you have to close RSLinx (shutdown if it is running as server) and then restarting it you should see your server. Take a look to the screenshot below. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic vikas and fuzzy logic,thanks for help :smileyhappy:vikas,onlly after i enable the rslinx classic gateway(by default ,this funtion is disable) and i can find the server on a client ,without this even i creat a ETH driver on both the server and the client ,it won't funtionbut one more thing ,after we enable the gateway and restart the rslinx ,be sure that the server have already creat other driver like ETH or VBP , a server with no driver runing seems impossible to be find by a client Seamoon,thanks to add up something to my knowledgebase too.I am glad that it worked.:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Execute Alarmacceptedits twice I have a CPR7+ RSView SE System (patched to the September 08 patches), with 3 sets of redundant HMI servers. Whenever I add a new alarm and then run the alarmacceptedits command, I need to run it twice for the alarms to take effect. The first time I get the message, added alarm ......, the second time I get modified the properties of alarm ....... I experience this on all 3 servers. Each server has between 5000 to 9000 alarms. Any thoughts? ### Assistant: rfridulin, you may want to take a look to the following (unless alredy done :smileytongue: ) : Aid 54559Aid 34215 (look inside the .pdf file at the end of technote) Attached a screenshot taken from that .pdf... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Replace a Guardlogix processor 1756-L6XS and 1756-LSP An OEM needs to replace a couple of 1756-L6XS and LSP. in the IO tree 1791ES modules are configured. It is necesary to reset ownership of the modules to make the system run again or it is sufficient to download the *.acd file to the new processors ? ### Assistant: gian, downloading the project should be enough... normally you have to reset the ownership of a module either if it has been previously configured by another controller / scanner (that means another .ACD project) or if it is a new one. In your case you only change the processors but the project is the same. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Pwerflex 700H does not start I have a PF700H that when I issue a start command does not start (20CC300A0A...). The 'start owner' indicates a 1. The 'stop owner' is 0, 'start inhibits' is 0, on 'drive status 2' the active bit and the running bit are 1 (after I have issued a start command). The 'commanded frequency' is 44Hz. The 'output frequency', 'output power', 'output current' and 'output voltage' all remain at 0. I have tried starting via 20-COMM-D and via the HIM with the devicenet disconnected. Sometimes 30 sec to 4min after the run bit comes on the VSD will start. I have disconnected the motor cables and tried to start the VSD and the same problem occurs (tried to eliminate a field problem). ### Assistant: CraigM, double check what is indicated in the following screenshot. Also, may you post what the display does show in its upper part (see screenshot highlight in red) when your drive doesn't start? - fuzzy logic Sequence of events. I have set all digital inputs to not used(1) Drive is ready to start as indicated by 'drive status2' bit 0 and the fault bit is not active and the start inhibits are all off and the HIM indicates stopped.(2) I issue a start command, the 'start owner' indicates 1, parameter 271 'Drive Logic Rslt' indicates start (bit 1). 'Drive status 2' bits 1&2 go high indicating drive is active and running. Frequency command is 44Hz.(3) what is strange is the HIM indicates stopped on top left and drive does not output anything. I have set 'digital output 1' to run and it goes ON. CraigM,did you check the dc bus voltage?Probably that is not enough to start up the drive. DC bus voltage is 817V, input voltage 567V, motor NP Voltage 525V. I know the input voltage is a little high should be 550V but I cannot do anything about it. To compensate for this I set parameter 202 (Voltage class) to High voltage. CraigM,i ve found a tech note.i cudnt open it (some prob with my pc).just check out this.Tech note:55752. The technote indicated by vikas (Aid 55752 linkified for convenience) is related to an option board (20C-DG1 for ATEX application) so consider it only if you have this card installed. Here the strange is that really drive indicates in some parameters it is running, but over the HIM it indicates as stopped... :smileysurprised: I think could be something has gone faulty inside the control of the drive, maybe due to the input voltage that is out of the valid range for the drive (max 500Vac +10%) as you know... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic This drive was purchased 3 years ago. At that stage the 20CD (480V) and 20CE (600V) were not available. We were informed by the Rockwell that the 20CC (400V) is rated to 611V and suitable for the 550V application. We have about fifteen other drives (20CC) running on similiar systems (550V supply) in the area and have been running fine for a few years. When the 20CD came available we asked if we should rather sell the 20CD and the response was they only have an official letter stating the 20CC is rated to 611V.We do not have the 20C-DG1 option board. CraigM, just some notes about Voltage... PF700H is a 380-500VAc drive, with a tolerance of 10% (that means max operating voltage is 550V)Over the Technical Guide, it is indicated the AC Overvoltage Trip for these drives as 611Vac... this doesn't mean you may operate until this value... this is just the level where the protection of the drive will trip. 20CC and 20CD are the same product... this is just related on how the Voltage parameter is set (low or high voltage) by default...hardware is the same (see Voltage Class in the attached screenshot). Anyway, I think your drive have something wrong... as I state in my previous post, it is really strange the behavior... also the output relè *said* Running... and display Stopped ?! :smileysurprised: Hope this helps... let me know...- fuzzy logic After much negotiation with the client they have agreed to lower the MCC voltage. Successfully commissioned the drive with supply voltage 545V. The cut-off on this drive appears to be 565V. I have also upgraded the firmware to ver4.001 (was originally 1.006). I am planning to run some tests at the original supply voltage with the new firmware just for interest. As a note: if your supply voltage is high then set the stop mode to 'coast'. Ramp to stop does not work properly if supply voltage is too high, although this was with firmware 1.006. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTV SE Acknowledge alarm with VBA code I need to implement a acknowledge all alarms button, with the following VBA code: Me.AlarmEventSummary1.AckAll My problem is that the commen dialog is shown: ### Assistant: TOBSK, I'm not sure to have correctly understood your needs... :smileysurprised: Take a look to the following technote: Aid 47571 There are some methods to use the AlarmEventSummary1.AckAll()... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Sorry, I can see only half of my question is shown - strange? I have already installed the patches from the technote: 47571, but the dialog is still beeing shown. Is there another way to do this: For example by calling the alarm and event server directly without using the AlarmEventSummary object? TOBSK, I'm sorry, did you follow the link in my previous post? It is not a patch... :smileysurprised: There are some methods to use the command... Do you mean you've already tried these ? Did you already see this other technote? Aid 48785 - fuzzy logic Hi, If I use this call:Me.AlarmEventSummary1.AckAllthe comment dialog is shown and I'm able to ack. the alarms. If I use:Me.AlarmEventSummary1.AckAll(0, Ack all) orMe.AlarmEventSummary1.AckAll(False, Ack all)I get this compile error: Compile error:Expected: = I make the call form the same display where the AlarmEventSummary1 is located. TOBSK, see the following screenshot... Let me know... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex70 EC Drives via Ethernet Anyone know the whereabouts in the documentation to calculate the packets per second (PPS) or CIP/TCP connections for a 20-Comm-E adapter? Trying to get a handle on configuring 40 PFlex70 drives on a ControlLogix system. I know it depends on the RPI but not sure about the 20-comm-E adapter... ### Assistant: fordtt, why don't you use the free tool for Ethernet/IP calculation ? Here the LINK to download it... Take a look to the following screenshot.. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks but I've got it. The newest version is 1.3 and the one on the Rockwell site is v1.0. Our distributor gave us the newest copy. I was just trying to find some documentation that shows a calculation. I've got the calculations for digital and analog I/O. I wasn't sure if the number of datalinks selected affected the pps of the adapter....I guess not. Thanks again. fordtt, you may also find some useful informations on Ethernet/IP in the following document: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ap/enet-ap001_-en-p.pdf Anyway, the formula is: Packets/Second= (2 x connections)/RPI As you mentioned...datalinks doesn't affect it.... they are in the same connection as Command and status... Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT Activation When I activated my license, I attached the license to the NIC port (Local Area Connection) on my laptop. When I start RSView ME, the license is not recognized if my wireless is disabled. Any suggestions? ### Assistant: Scadamatt,make sure your NIC should be enabled else you wouldn,t get your FTV ME activated.:smileywink: The hardwired NIC is enabled, but the wireless is not. I would think as long as the hardwired port is enabled, the activation should work reguardless of the wireless port. Some docking stations have their own network card. Not sure if this is your case, but I ran into it on another issue. When docked, only the docking station ethernet adapter was enabled and undocked then the onboard adapter was enabled. If this is the case you can change the attachement to the hard drive ID. Take a look to the technote Aid 40746. It may helps... - fuzzy logic Rule of Thumb: Assign license to hard drive on laptops. Not the network card. Reasons, there are too many, but power management features, network card integration, and other such elements unique to a laptop will in effect make the network card an unrealiable choice. Since we are talking about ME. 5.0 the RSLinx Enterprise will not recognize the FTA license, there is a patch for this please apply the FTSP Patch Rollup and the ME Patch Rollup. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 500 Remote I/O Addressing I need some help understanding how a SLC 500 processor addresses a remote I/O digital input card. The bit specified in the ladder on the processor that I would like to know is I:1/325. I know that the remote chassis contains a digital input card in slot 1, but how do I tell which specific 0-15 input this 325 is? In other words, what does the 3, 2, and the 5 represent? ### Assistant: RIO addressing is referred by Logical Racks... A Logical Rack means 8 input words and 8 output words in the processor image.A Logical Rack can be split in more parts, smallest of which is 1/4 rack (2 input and 2 output words, also referred as 2 logical groups)So, 8 Logical Groups = 8 Input words and 8 Output words = 1 Logical Rack. 1747-SN scanner can have a maximum of 4 Logical Racks addressed... that means 32 input and 32 output words. Based on the addressing mode you use in your adapter (1747-ASB or other I/O), a part of those groups is allocated in every phisical slot (max 2 groups per slot using 1/2 slot addressing). Now, your bit... :smileytongue: I:1 means that the scanner is in slot 1, / means that what follows is a bit number, 325 is the bit number 325 starting from bit 0 in I:1.0 (this last number is the word... in ladder view may be omitted so that the first bit in that word is I:1/0, the last I:1/15) I:1/325 is the same as I:1.20/5... Word 20 is inside Logical Rack 2 (it starts from Word 16 in the scanner image and ends with word 23).To know exactly from where this input comes, you have to watch the Dip-switches in the Adapter; there you may see the Logical Rack assigned to it and the starting group.Then you have to understand the addressing mode, to know how many groups are in every slot, so that you find the group that corresponds to word 20 of the scanner (that is Logical Rack 2 group 4) Quite complicated... :smileysad: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: HMI for PowerFlex 700 I have a PF 700 on a winder with some basic hard wired I/O. I am upgrading it to control tension using the PI loop but I need an HMI for the drive so I can change tension setpoint and monitor actual tension. I have done this with a system that has a PLC but I can not find a way to do it without one. Has anyone connected a graphical HIM directly to a PF 700 without a PLC in the mix? ### Assistant: I'd try a PanelView Component or small PanelView Plus with a DF1->DPI converter (the 1203-SSS). I attempted to use a PV Component over Ethernet to a 22-COMM-E and was unsuccessful. I think that over DF1 it might be easier. A remote HIM module with the process display set to show tension units would be a lot easier, but might present a navigation challenge to an inexperienced operator. Ken, just a clarification if you can... :smileytongue: I've seen this technote: Aid 25508 ; it seems not possible to use datalinks when interfacing via 1203-SSS to DPI... so it isn't possible to use this solution to change/monitor some parameters other than those indicated... Is it true? Any workaround ? Thanks,- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTV SE Numeric Input and Global objects HiI have two questions: 1. Is it not possible to change the background and the font color on a NumericInput object? 2. Is there a way to open a display from a globalobject with global object definitions, and pass the definitions from the global object to global objects on the display that opens. I tried with a parameter file ( ### Assistant: TOBSK, May you kindly split your post in two (I mean create a new one just with the second request..) Thanks for the cooperation. edit: I'm afraid I've not seen the question was on SE :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Well I don't have the NumericInputEnable object in SE only in ME. Ok. I have created a new post for question 2: FTV SE Global Object Parameter Definitions TOBSK, you may change NumericInput properties at Display level, using the Display Settings... see the screenshot. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT Studio ME Best way to backup (PV+) We are just starting to develope more and more FT Studio ME 5.0 applications. They are all for in house and we use FT AssetCentre for our storeage and backups. In the past, the best way to back up a ME application was the Backup application in Application Manager (.apa). Now with version 5.0 we can restore a runtime file (.mer). AssetCentre requires a .mer file to do its comparision. Since we can now restore a .mer file would this work as our backup just as good as the .apa file? If so would the .apa files be going away in the future? In other words, what is the difference from restoring a .mer file to restoring a .apa file? Thanks ### Assistant: Craig, your idea is good, and maybe it will be the only used in future to backup the application, as per the fact you may also easily protect the .mer file with a password, to prevent the unauthorized restore. Anyway, at the moment there are some issues in this restore, reguarding the Users Accounts (3.20 users and also 5.00 users), so that this functionality is not yet complete. :smileysad: Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 45605 - Aid 45759 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks, I did some testing with a project that we have that utilizes local security and found that as long as I restore the FT local directory, security updates fine. I took our file and created a .apa and a .mer. Then I deleted the application and removed users from my System Local directory. When I restored the .apa file the security users were recreated ok and my runtime security looked good. I then repeated the same proceedure but restored the runtime version and everything restored fine. I made sure that I deleted the users in my local directory before restoring. We do not use Windows logins only local users. Thanks again for your help. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Host PC has no internet access We recently purchased a full edition of RS5000, how can I receive and install activation for a PC that has no internet access using the current activation format. I have used Master disk transfers in the past which I understand are no longer available. ### Assistant: 4407, in this technote there is the procedure you may use. Aid 35251 Navigate to this question: My Computer does not have Internet Access …? Essentially, you may do this on another computer with an internet access, and then transfer the activation you got on final pc, or you have to contact the Tech support center for your region, that will activate the software for you. Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thanks, all is well, here at Mudville and I agree that this method is simpler than Master Disk use.:smileyvery-happy: If you contact activation support you can get them to send you a master disk, although it may take some bickering. Some times internet is not an option. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk 5.0 ME Alarm Window Closing When I get an alarm in an Alarm List I do an ACKNOWLEDGE ALARM (using the standard supplied alarm buttons) and my alarm window closes. The window will ONLY close if I am on the most recent alarm (or top of list). The window closes if I do an Acknowledge All as well. I do not want this to happen. I want to Acknowledge the Alarm but not close the window. I cannot figure out how to manipulate this setting. ### Assistant: Attached are some screenshots that explain what you get and how to solve it. The settings have to be done in FactoryTalk View ME Station if you use the runtime .mer file on a PC, or in the Configuration Page if you're using it in a Panelview Plus. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic May you please mark the thread as solved (if it is... as I think) using the green solution? button over my previous post ? Thanks for cooperation... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PID instruction possible with RSEmulate 5000? So, I've searched the net and searched the knowledgebase, and I still can't figure out if PID instructions can be successfully emulated on RSEmulate 5000. I'm new to the whole 'PID' process, and I'm writing some basic ladder logic to get 'er up and running in Emulate. I've read that PID's were not able to be emulated in RSEmulate 500, but there was ONE GUY in ONE POST (named John M on this site: http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=26354) that seemed to indicate that 5000 did not have that restriction. Unfortunately, I don't have that much faith in that one perspective. So, how about it? Am I chasing my tail here? Thanks, Will ### Assistant: You may find what RS5000 Emulator can and cannot do at this link: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/gr/lgem5k-gr015_-en-p.pdf Anyway I confirm that PID instruction is supported in it. :smileyhappy: Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Upgrading to Factory Talk Studio I am on a commissioning trip and need to upgrade to Factory Talk Studio 5.00 to be able to work on an existing Panelview Plus application. If I do so, how will this effect all my other projects that are currently on my laptop in the lower version of RS Studio? ### Assistant: Brian, you will be able to open your *old* projects using version 5.00, but after that you'll not be able to open them again with version 4.00, as per the fact they will be converted. Anyway, you have the possibility to create a .mer file from 5.00 to earlier version 4.00, 3.20, 3.10, 3.00. In order to check the differances between versions, you may take a look to the following User Manual... appendix G http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/viewme-um005_-en-e.pdf Also have a look to the following technote: Aid 44333 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Mounting Location for Emergency Stop Pushbutton I am looking for a reference to a standard that defines the mounting height requirements for E-Stop pushbuttons. Any help will be very much appreciated. ### Assistant: gkiser, take a look at following links... from other forums.... LINK 1LINK 2 Also the link to NFPA, where it seems you may find this information. NFPA In some other *places* in the www, the discussions indicate that the choice would have to be made according to the good sense based on uses and machine/plant type; e-stop should be easy reachable from the operator. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 1500 Fonts I am having problems with the Panelview 1500 Fonts. According to the manual the only fonts that come with the Panel view pre-installed are Tahoma and Sans Sarif MS. I have done my design in Factory Talk using Tahoma, and Tahoma Bold.. When I port my program over to the Panel View I get fonts which appear to be expanded horizontally. They will overlap things in the panel view that they don't overlap in Factory Talk. Further reading into the manual tells me that you have to have the proper font files loaded into Panel View. I went and downloaded the 88 Mbyte font file from the website and loaded the Tahoma files into the Panel view and have the same results. (The manual mentions an Accessory CD that should have had the Fonts files on it but that did not come with my panel view or my Factory Talk Software). I have tried this with Courier as well and am having the same results. Again loaded the new font files with no change. Is there something I'm missing here? Or is this something I am just going to have to make work? ### Assistant: The font CD is shipped only with Panelview Plus CE... anyway you may order it to your distributor. font CD -- Part number 77159-952-01 / VIEW-SP006A-EN-C Maybe the problem is just related to the incorrect font been downloaded... - fuzzy logic It's probably the Tahoma Bold that was causing problems. It is not the same as Tahoma and pressing the BOLD button for a couple letters. It's a completely different font. (We see this most often with Arial and Arial Bold.) Also, Arial is the default font in the PV+. We recommend sticking with the default Arial font whenever possible because there are some instances where the font renderer in Windows XP and the font renderer in Windows CE are not pixel for pixel identical (they look the same to human eyes, but a pixel off here and there can mean something doesn't fit on the PV+ when it did fit ok in Studio). This problem is much rarer than it used to be, thankfully. Recent firmware versions have minimized the font differences quite a bit. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: RsView 32 Change Password Command How can I have a user to be able to change their password in a client not the server? I tried it with the password command it works under the server but not under the client P.S. Any help would greatly appreciate. ### Assistant: Unfortunately this is a normal behavior in RSView32... some commands are ignored when issued from a RAD client... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic From what I can remember about VBA in RSView32 is that it executes on the server not the client, so you should be able to use VBA to execute the RSView command for password change as it will process on the server. What I don't know (because I haven't done it in RSView32) is how to execute a RSView command in RSView32 (I have done it in RSViewSE) n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTViewSE - options for reading values from a database and displaying on GFX Hello: I was wondering what others have done in the past for reading values from a database and placing them onto a GFX. Example: You're logging temperature once per minute to a db. You can write a query to show the average temperature over the past day, via query analyzer manually. How do I get this value onto an FTView SE screen? The only thing I'm aware of is VBA via ADO, but if there are other options I'd like to hear. Using FTView SE, v5.0 and SQL Server 2005. Thanks,T ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Password Protect Hi i'm having problems with a systems SLC 5/05 but the PLC as being block by a password but my guys also take care to remove all back up files also for that ladder ??? what i can do ???? except firing the guys !! ### Assistant: Flames,i didnt get your question?Is your slc 5/05 logix file password protected?if this the case then as per Rockwell Policy contact the Local Technical Support.:smileysad: Flames, firing the guys will give you some satisfactions :smileytongue: , but unfortunately can't solve the problem... :smileywink: Vikas has right, also take a look to the following technote: Aid 16846 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTV SE Local Messages as Tool tip text Hi, Does anyone know if it is possible to get the messages from a Local Messages file without using the Local Messages Display. I'm thinking about using texts from the file as Tool Tip Texts on some objects. If its not possible I'm thinking about using the Local Message Display an make it visible when the mouse passes over an object. Is there a way, in VBA, to use that event (OnMouseOver)? I can't find it. Thanks in advance ### Assistant: TOBSK, see if this helps... http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-25206.htmlhttp://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?p=2742459&highlight=CommandButton1 I don't know... just try...:smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-IB16D current rating. The 1756-OB16D moudle has a rating of 2 A per point and an 8 A max current rating. The outputs are divided into two groups of 8 on two commons. Is the 8 A current rating the maximum rating for the entire module or is it the maximum rating per group or common? ### Assistant: Alaric, I guess you're talking about OB16D, not IB16... :smileywink: 8A max per ENTIRE MODULE. Take a look to the screenshot. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic The question arises because of the two commons. If I have eight one amp loads then do I have to distribute them across the commons at 4A per common? Or can they all be on the same common? If the latter, then is the rating is 8A per common, not 8A per module. I can't find a rating that tells me this information. Alaric, for sure it is 8 Amps per Module... that means in every combination ... either 8 amps all on one common - or 6 Amps on one common and 2 on the other... and so on... If you have 4 outputs that demands 2 amps every one, on the same common, on the other common you can't use other outputs... that means 8 amps per module, also if in this case are all in one common. Important is that every output can have max 2 amps, but in total, over your 16 outputs, you can't have more than 8 amps... Hope it is clear. - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic wrote: ... that means in every combination ... either 8 amps all on one common - or 6 Amps on one common and 2 on the other... and so on...Thanks, that is was what I was wondering about - whether I needed to distribute the loads or not. I have six .8 A loads and two 1.3 A loads that can be on simultaneously. I wanted to wire the one common to a safety swtiched power source and attach the other common to a non safety power source so that I could use the other 8 outputs for indicators when the first 8 were off - so I wanted to make sure I didn't have to distribute the 8 larger loads across both commons. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet Conections for PF70 drives Can anyone tell me how many ethernet conections a PF70 drive will take up using two datalinks talking to a ControlLogix? I need this to determine how many EN2T cards I will need in this system. Thanks. Eddie ### Assistant: Merlin402, a PF70 ethernet/ip card uses only one connection, also if datalinks are all enabled. See also this other thread... it indicates the use of the Ethernet/IP prediction tool, that helps on that. http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=234#M234 - fuzzy logic Thanks for the fast reply! Eddie n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet communication slc 5/05 Good day all of you, i have a network configuration here my slc 5/05 is communicating with a ethernet card 1756-ENBT/A, and all the time my connection is closing and reconnect after few second !!!We replace and test the network cable and verify the set up and everything looks OK for me. We don't have duplicated address, already check, just in case. Do someone as similar trouble like that ????How going around this problems ??? ### Assistant: Flames, just some informations in order to have a more complete scenerio.... Have you a switch between them ? Managed / Unmanaged ? Cable length from switch to devices ? Standard ethernet cable or constructed from your own ? Other devices connected to the Ethernet modules ? Does an error appear in the I/O tree of RS5000 over the -ENBT when the comm fails ? Which error ? The more informations you put in your post, the more help you may expect to receive... :smileywink: THANKS... - fuzzy logic I have a switch unmanaged installed, we try to exchange the port also !!The distance between the 2 systems is around 20 feet no more with a cable that we have built but verify with LAN tester. On that switch, i have over 10 module for remote I/O (1794-AENT) and 2 panelview plus. When we verify everything in the I/O tree, everything is showing as active. When going online, the little rslogix500 icon is moving step by step every maybe 10 sec, she's not spinning as usual.On the ENBT, the port is set to auto negociate, should the slc be set on that too. I also try to replace the 5/05 processor by a different revision number higher but came up with the same results again.I'm waiting for a brand new card from factory sometimes next week, i will maybe try again to exchange it again. For the moment, i just remove the messaging instruction from both systems, just to see what happens when the activity is very low, but will do the same. thx Flames, here some suggestions... - Double check the cables... at this LINK you may find some useful indications, be sure to respect Pairs and Colors (cable impedance is different between pairs). We've solved many comm problems making correctly the cable... :smileysurprised: - Take a look to these technotes about Auto-Negotiation and Ethernet port setting... Aid 21667 - Aid 38070 - Aid 5280 - Check the charge utilization amount of your -ENBT module cpu, accessing its embedded web page...it should stay under 80%... - Be sure to not have configured too quick RPIs for your remote modules and PVP tag Update rate. - The slow online icon could mean too ethernet traffic (maybe the switch isn't able to resolve all packets you need...managed switch could make this better) - If you can, try to disconnect all other nodes from switch but SLC and -ENBT, and see what's happen. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Flames, Please reconsider the choice of an unmanaged switch. The multicast messages from the I/O modules will be broadcast out all ports of the switch, and the SLC will go nuts trying to ignore all that traffic. A managed switch (designed for EtherNet/IP or not) that supports IGMP snooping will keep track of who wants to hear the multicast I/O traffic (the ControlLogix), and will not put it out on the wire to nodes that don't need it (the SLC). The SLC and the RSLogix500 app will then have a nice quiet path between them -- the switch keeps them from hearing the storm of I/O activity. IGMP snooping really is a MUST HAVE feature for any switch that has EtherNet/IP I/O traffic passed through it. Same for full-duplex and wire-speed switching, but IGMP snooping is critical to success. See publication ENET-AP001D-EN-P Chapter 2 for advice on selecting an appropriate Ethernet switch. Good luck and best regards,Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Flex 400 Power Loss Fault? Power Flex 400 is getting Power Loss fault on power up.As per the KB technote the power board firmware has been upgraded but still the problem exists.Any solutions? ### Assistant: vikas, have a look to this technote, is a PSA on that drive (maybe it is the case) :smileywink: Aid 49990 - fuzzy logic I meet this problems too. I replace with part kits and flash the firmware. Sometimes It can solve the problem and some It cannot n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to get actual world clock time when 1756-IB16ISOE event triggered at remote chassis Hi, I have redundant CLX system, with 1756-CN2R controlnet , 1756-IB16SOE module sit at remote chassis, I looked at knowledge base and read few notes, but it still not workPeriodic task: every 20ms, get CST value, and WCTCSTOffset, use ADD_64 AOI to sum the value and get UCT value, one pair of UCT|CST value will map to SOE Rackx:O.UCTTime[0]Step1: every 1 seconds, I trigger one DO, meanwhile , record the processor chaissis WCT currentvalue, we say valueAStep 2: DO from step 1 will wire to one of SOE module input, when this input received, it will record the Rackx:2:I.UCTTimestamp, we say ValueBStep 3: UCTOffset=Value A-Value BStep 4: when new SOE from another channel trigged, ValueC=Rackx:2:I.UCTTimestamp+UCToffset , this valueC should be the actual UCT value when new SOE triggered, however, when convert this readable year, Month, Day, Minute, Second format for valueC, Year, Month, day are correct, Minute and second always big different to actual triggered time any super guru can help? anyone has experience with redundant system, with SOE module, AND WITHOUT 1756hp-GPS module applicaton? ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Object Visibility using Parameters Trying to use a parameter to determine an object's visibility in FTSE. Anyone have any suggestions? ### Assistant: Ace Tech, you may use a parameter in Visibility Animation...:smileytongue: It works as other Object Parameter... take a look to the following screenshot... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Do you mean how to determine if an object is visible or how to use a parameter to make it visible/invisible? If is the second; Fussy has the answer. If the first; objects on a display are exposed via VBA, most (not all) object have a Visible property. This is a read/write value so can be used to determine if the object is viable or not. This is one of the many attempts I have tried. Unfortunately, FTV deciphers the parameter as a tag, and outputs the error Failed to Resolve item's ID '0' because it does not exist on any server. I have even tried using double quotes. I have been at this long enough I think and will have to create two tags (memory_always_on, and memory_always_off) with a 1 and 0 value respectively and reference this in my animation:Memory_always_#1In my parameter I would have “on” or “off”.This works perfectly, but I was hoping I would not have to create a new tag. Thanks for your help. If anyone comes up with the correct syntax without using only parameter files and no memory tags, let me know. Thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View SE Auto Login I have a distributed FT View 5.0 system on Windows Workgroup network. All users are FT Security based. How do I set a specific user to automatically be logged in when a client starts up? Thanks ### Assistant: It been a while since I did this the last time, but as I remember it you must add your user to the users in the System part of Studio and then assign that user to the right group (Group Membership) Two technotes may help you: Aid 47316 to login a Windows-linked user on client PC startupAid 56024 to use a Login command in right manner (you may insert this command in a Startup Macro for your client to automatically login a specific user, giving here the Username and Password) edit: as per other users test, this command doesn't work in a Startup Macro :smileymad: Hope this helps...fuzzy logic Hi TavMaster-T One thing that I have found very annoying about FT security is that only Windows-linked users can be automatically logged in. There is no way to specify a FT user at runtime. The closest I have come is to first automatically log on as a Windows linked user, then have the initial graphic issue a Login command with the specific FT username and password that I want. It would also issue a Display command to call up the screen that I want operators to see when the client first launches. Does that make sense? Thanks to everyone for the replies. No, that doesn't make sense at all. But it does explain why the login command that works from a button doesn't work in my startup macro. FT View client actually hangs trying to do the login and has to be killed. There is no domain controler so there are no Windows-linked users. I guess I'm going to have to make a Windows-linked user for each computer so that I can do an auto-logon the way JonathanKent describes. Just saw tech note 56976, which describes this process in more detail. I suspect you don't have to make an individual Windows-linked user - you could probably get away with a Windows-linked group. The group gets you logged into the application, then the Login command issued from the display's Startup command logs in a default FT user. I've finally gotten this working. Thanks to everyone for all the helpful advice and tips. It ended up being a combination of tech notes #47316 and #56976. Here's how it works: I created a Windows-Linked user based on the windows account that is logged in so that the client will automatically log in that account. Then I configured a startup picture that used VBA to determine the node name and call the appropriate startup macro. The macro logs in the default user and opens the default screens for that node. Oddly, I found that calling the startup macro directly from the client startup configuration didn't work. It would always hang at Login/Logout in progress.... I even tried doing the Login command from VBA in one of the displays opened by the startup macro but it would still hang. Calling the exact same startup macro from a startup display works fine. It seems that the login command won't work if I configure the client to call a startup macro, but it's fine if I call a startup display. Anyway, it's all working now. Thanks again for the help! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Modbus /TCP on using ML1100 or ML1400 Looking for any suggestions for setting up TCP/modbus to connect to Mach3 a windows based cnc control software using a ML1100/ML1400 ### Assistant: Adam, the MicroLogix 1100/1400 Ethernet port does not support Modbus/TCP...:smileysad: Here a link to similar question... may help. LINK edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic Thanks! I will look into that link Are the modbus registors for ML1100/1400 listed any where? Here the link... starting from page 528 http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1763-rm001_-en-p.pdf Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Our Encompass partner Prosoft makes a modbus to modbus TCP gateway.http://www.prosoft-technology.com/prosoft/products/stand_alone_gateways/serial/modbus_master_slave/modbus_tcp_ip_to_modbus_master_slave_communication_module n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT Studio SE, ActiveX requirements Is it true that only OCX ActiveX controls can be used? I wrote an ActiveX DLL and it doesnt show up as an option when trying to add an ActiveX control to a display. ### Assistant: prmeade, did you succesfully registered your Activex on that PC? For example, open a Command prompt and enter: regsvr32 C:WindowsSystem32NameOfActivex.dll - fuzzy logic In general an ActiveX DLL does not have any visualization functionality. They are used to provide some functionality to a client - which would usually provide a GUI. FT View SE is for visualization so I would expect to only use OCX as a reference type of ActiveX. If you want to use your ActiveX DLL - then you can do this via VBA - make reference to your ActiveX with the references menu item, Then use as any other COM object. Thanks, I didnt even think of that. I read that and had the ultimate Duh moment.Thanks again. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to convert a ladder file from SLC500 to Clgx 5000? I have a project run on SLC500 and I'd like to upgrade this control system to Control Logix 5000. Beside the hardware upgrade , Is there a way to convert the old program (SLC500) to run on the new PLC processor CLX5000 without the neet to re-write the whole program again. Of course, there should be some modifications that has to be done manually to the program but not re-writing it! ### Assistant: You may use the Translation Tool that is inside RSLogix5000; this will reduce the work you need to convert your application, leaving anyway some things to do later to complete this conversion. In the following technote you may find an useful explanation of this tool. Aid 21962 Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thank you for your reply, but let me ask you : The converted file comming out of this tool does it contains all the database and rung describtions? Or it just give you rungs and data address (B3:5/7 , N6:7/12 , etc.) without the labels and discribtions?If not, how can I (convert) this database too? As described in step 2 of the technote indicated in my first post, also database descriptions are included, doing the needed manual save of original texts.Also an utility is attached in the Technote, to combine all the exported text file into one. - fuzzy logic I'm currently woking on a conversion project from SL5 to CLX5000, having issues getting the tool to work as described in the tech note though. I'm attempting to go from a SoftLogix5 Series C Revision B to a CLX. However, I get partially through the conversion and it tells me it doesn't recognize the source controller. Any information would be great, as my deadline for this project is quickly approaching, and I really don't think I've got enough sleepless nights between now and shutdown to be able to hammer it all out manually. Thanks, RK Unfortunately, as mentioned in the following technotes, SoftLogix 5 is not supported by this tool... :smileysad: Aid 5514 - Aid 21962 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Remove item from listbox on RSview32 Does anyone know how to remove an item from a listbox control on rsview32... I know how to add it:sMyCommand = invoke product selection.ListBox1.AddItem( & gTagDb.GetTag(Robot3Lane2).Value & ) gCommand.Execute (sMyCommand) But when I try the removeitem part I cant seem to type the sintax for the Listbox1.ListIndex properly. Regards. ### Assistant: Did you already see at this LINK ? Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC3 export error Trying to export a PLC3 program from 6200 but recieve internal error after only 13 lines have been transfered to text. The database seems to be corrupt. Any fixes for this? ### Assistant: Goodie, take a look to the following technote: Aid 19002 I found that many times this service let you save time giving quick and good results... - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy, but i did not find the answer to my question in that lead. For sure.... :smileywink: Was only a suggestion... avoid to loose too much time and ask for Rockwell to convert your program... :smileysurprised: Otherwise, another suggestion is to put more details in your post, maybe a screenshot with the error... maybe other users can help you... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Enhanced CLX Redundancy System Communication Module Number Limitation How many communication modules (1756-CN2/R, 1756-EN2T) could be supported in each enhanced CLX redundant chassis in the currently released 16.54 revision? ### Assistant: Take a look to the following screenshot... :smileywink: Reference LINK Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: New libraries graphics objects for RSview? Tell please where I can download new libraries graphics objects for RSView? ### Assistant: You may find some libraries here : Aid 34729 It is a *reserved* TechConnect document, Maybe you can't open it... :smileysad: If you have trouble following the link, check to make sure your TechConnect authorization number is included in your profile. See the following technote for more information: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=50871 These libraries are valid for RSView32 and you may also import them into ViewSE (ViewME cannot import them... :smileysad: ) - fuzzy logic Thanks, but I had in view of what fresher library for RSViewSE. Can already have appeared new 3D objects? (in style WinXP for example) New and beautiful objects I saw on interfaces in InTouch 10. Me that similar interests that.Really for RSViewSE till now has appeared anything new? I think there is anything new in it... :smileysad: Anyway, if the images you like are in .bmp or .jpg, you may import them in RSView SE (now FactoryTalkView SE)... Pictures, images, autocad saves; all these can be imported into the images library and used by SE. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I and do. But a problem that in bmp pictures it is impossible to use some commands of animation.All the same, many thanks for consultation. :smileyhappy: Yes, you're right.... :smileysad: To obtain full animation you need to have groups of simple polygon objects, as the Library objects are.... (.wmf or .dxf files should help on that...) - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus communication problem Hi, This is Manish Goyal from RA-India. I am facing one problem regarding program download/upload from RSView ME station (Ver-5.00 (CPR-9)) to Panelview 700 plus (Ver-5.00) over ethernet. Panelview does not display in Rslinx enterprises under Ehernet Driver. I have set the correct IP address and Subnet mask in PV & Laptop. Also ensured that only Rslinx entrprises sevice run at this time (RSlinx Gateway shut down). I am also able to Ping the Panelview from my laptop but not able to see the Panelview in Rslinx enterprises for upload/downlaod. Can u please let me know what can be the cause. ### Assistant: Take a look to the following technote: Aid 27026 ...let me know if it solves... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I have already done this exercise as per technote , but problem not solved. That's strange... :smileysurprised: Did you try also these: Aid 42212 - Aid 41297 - Aid 24344 ? - fuzzy logic Another solution... :smileytongue: try to download you application using an USB pen drive or an external CF card (Aid 50184 - Aid 50186) with the correct RSLinx Enterprise Configuration (Aid 44614) and select to Replace the current configuration when run.... remember that the Ethernet driver and Panelview Plus should be configured also in the Target window in RSLinx Enterprise, otherwise you will fall again in the same problem.... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic One more option... try to manually add the PV+ to the ethernet driver in RSLINX Enterprise comms setup. On rare occasions, I've seen the system fail to find it automatically but once it is manually added, the download works. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Tag Browser - Locking Up (FTViewSE) When selecting an online tag with the Tag Browser it tends to lock up for 4-5 minutes before the tag folders can be opened. Has anyone else experienced this? ### Assistant: I've seen this problem in the past... was solved by a patch... I know many times the answer is the following... :smileywink: but many many times the solution is there ! Try to install latest patch rollup for your ViewSE and FactoryTalk Services Platform...be careful to the release... :smileysurprised: Patches SE CPR9 Aid 47015Patches FTSP CPR9 - Aid 49190 Patches FTSP CPR9 SR1 - Aid 56184 Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic Thankyou for the reply. I have installed these patches on the computer and it would lockup when using Tag Browser? Have you installed the patches on all computers (FTD, HMI Server, Clients, Engineering PC's) or just the Studio PC? I have seen problems like this when different patch levels are in use accross the application. What may be happening is that the Tag Browser really is appearing, but off the screen. I've seen this where I've worked with dual monitors for a while and brought up the Tag Browser there, then gone back to using a single monitor. The Tag Browser remembers the last X/Y coordinates that it used. These coordinates can be reset by deleting the following registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareRockwell SoftwareRSView Enterprise2.0Tag Browser The next time you open the Tag Browser, it will create a new registry key with default values. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inview P22R I have been using a standard Inview P22R configuration for about two years now. I have loaded it into a number of units (using version 2.4 software). One of my associates is in the field trying to download this same configuration into a new unit (using version 2.6 software). The configuration appears to download, but the only thing that appears on the display is RJ11 Test. What's wrong? Why will it not function properly? ### Assistant: Are you downloading messages thru comm module ? Take a look to the following technote; also check Dip setting for serial address (check to not set diagnostic mode) Aid 26474 If it is not valid, maybe the Inview has an hardware fault (RJ11 test indication could be related to a problem in its hardware) - fuzzy logic I am downloading via serial port. What is check to not set diagnostic mode? Also, this problem is occurring on two different diplays. When the problem first happened, I figured the display was bad, but it's also happening on the replacement display. I was talking about dip switches setting... take a look to the following screenshot. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Phantom tag value Take a look at the screen shot attached; notice that the LT_global_modifier_number tag contains a comparatively large number. As the program runs through its logic and this rung goes false I see this odd number (not always the same number sometimes a negative number). It doesn’t seem to ever feed into the global_scale tag but I can’t figure out where it comes from. The program seems to be working O.K. regardless of this. Any thoughts? ### Assistant: Aubry, it seems all ok in your attached logic... if you want, I may take a look in your program to see if something could generate this strange issue...…not sure to find the problem, just to search deeper... :smileytongue: Send me a Private message with your e-mail address and I will replay with my address where you may send the .ACD file... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Aubry, I've replicated a similar ladder rung of the one attached by you... and I see that the value in LT_global_modifier is sometimes shown (randomly in time) as the result of the SUB instruction (that is using the values as per your example 1.20043755e-003)and then (after a very short time) it returns the value calculated from the following DIV... This could be related to the delay in online communication... Maybe this is the same as what happens to you ?! :smileysurprised: Let me know... - fuzzy logic Sounds like a reasonable explanation. Again the phantom value was never used in the logic calculation; so I am thinking a display issue that is of no consequence. Thanks,Aubry Well.. The tag value that is shown is correct. 1.0012004 subtract 1.0000 = 0.0012004 or 1.2004e-003. then divide by 2 it will be 0.0006002 or 6.002e-004. floating point values will be shown in exponent form when values are very small or very large hence the term floating point. Floating point values only have 6-7 significant digits and then a scientific notation to tell the controller where the decimal point is supposed to be. when the value is within the 6-7 digits it will display a number with out the e-xxx. the key to the size of the number is the operand after the e If it is negative it will be less than 1. if it is positive it will be greater than 1. Wikipedia has a good description of ieee floating point numbers. remember that least significant digits can be inaccurate. they can be rounded or changed within the standard. It would be nice if Rockwell could come up with a 64 bit IEEE floating point data type and instructions for some precision math. Gudelman, there are no dubts the value is correct... :smileywink: What is happen here is that sometimes you may see a value that has nothing to do with the operations used... we discover that this value is an intermediate value between the SUB and the DIV operations, and this is just because of a visualization delay... Anyway thanks for the detailed explanation...maybe useful for other users...:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic There is no doubt that if you modify the same tag multiple times in the same scan that you will see different values when you are online. You will also notice this during a histogram because it is running at a higher priority than the continuous task. I thought that the actual number was not accurate; due to the floating point calculations having error based on the standard format. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 2711cT6M Dear Sir,Can we connect 2711cT6M with OMRON PLC CPM1A ? Any suggestions. thanks rajesh ### Assistant: ragni, Following the list of available embedded drivers for Omron PLC. Omron FINS Ethernet Omron FINS Serial Omron Host Link Omron Process Suite You have to check which one is available on your CPU... for sure Host Link is available in that processor. Hope this helps. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 700H Does anyone understand why pf 700H experiences F10. User manual diagnostics suggests to replace drive, since failur has occurred within the PF 700H's powerstructure. ### Assistant: bayew, try to download from this LINK the troubleshooting guide for your drive frame (see the screenshot)... it could be useful to check the fibers... Anyway, as you can see from the manual, it could be an hardware failure that is not solvable in the field... :smileysad: the why... could be a defective part ?! :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1203-USB Firmware Update Install FIX I downloaded the firmware update v1.003, for the 1203-USB, from the support website and when I install the .msi file on my windows xp pro computer I get an error at the end of the install that says A network error occurred while attempting to read from the file C:...ControlFLASH.msi Well obviously, the file is not named ControlFLASH.msi when you download it, the default file name is 1203-USB_1_003_06_Update.msi. FIX:Take the downloaded file 1203-USB_1_003_06_Update.msi and rename it to ControlFLASH.msi. If your file does not show the file extension .msi then do the same thing but do not include the .msi portion of the name. ### Assistant: jarhorgos,the solution is in the id given below. Answer ID 40485 Have a look.:smileywink: Thanks for the heads up. You misunderstand, jahorgos. The corruption isn't in the download. The corruption is in the registry entries on that particular machine. Being Windows, you guess is probably as good as mine as to what caused the corruption on that machine ... but the referenced technote clears out the corruption and allows the downloaded MSI file to install correctly. Hope that helps clear any confusion, JHutch Actually, no corruption is taking place. Windows installers user a specific code when installing products, so the system will know what is installed, and what isnt. Windows does not store the notion that ControlLogix x.xx was installed, it uses a long registry code instead. The ControlFlash install file installs are all the same, just the firmware inside the controlflash is different. To Windows, it thinks you are trying to modify an already existing installation (ControlFlash). It has no idea that it is a different firmware, since the ControlFlash key is being reused. Since it thinks its already installed, the Windows installer wants to know where the original install files are, so it can properly remove/modify the installation. The install files are probably long gone, but it will remember where it was installed from, and ask for the installation files from that original location. Make sense? Engineering is using a newer version now of Windows installer, so this should not happen with newer Controlflash files. I thought it was pretty funny that some how everyones machine in the plant was some how corrupted. I knew I was not crazy and I'm glad to see a fix will be applied to future files. This is the first firmware download I have had issues with like this. Most of my firware files are older 15.6 L61 redundancy flashes and such. Thanks for your input. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 200hp 1336 Plus - Why am I getting an F12 Overcurrent fault at power up? I am getting an F12 overcurrent fault as soon as I power my drive up. The motor has megged good and I have even taken the motor leads off of the drive. Ohm value between each VFD output phase is around 2.0 meg.Things I have checked:- checked all IGBT's according to manual and they checked good.- checked input voltage scrs and good- checked pre-charge board fuses and good- replaced gate driver board- replaced main control board- replaced HIM- Loaded a different program into drive and still get same fault. We have just replaced this drive about a month before and it ran fine after we replaced it. I sat for about a month and when we tried to start it up the f12 fault is displayed. ### Assistant: You have been very thorough in your diagnostics, but there is one thing I dont see in that list. An overcurrent in a drive that size would tell me that one or both of the LEM modules on the drive have malfunctioned, or have been wiring incorrectly. They are on the output of the drive, and sense the output current. Can you check them for a shorted or open condition, and make sure that they are wired in correctly. They would be the only thing that would tell the drive it is outputting too much current. Your were correct in your diagnostics. I found a bad CT (LEM) module yesterday. When I unplugged both CT's, my fault went away. I found the one that was bad and replaced it. My pump is off and running.Thanks for the information! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix 6000 - How to add a custom motor? I have to set up a system in wich I need to add 2 pacific scientific servo motors to a Kinetix 6000 servo drives. I can't see the option in the RSLogix 5000 to use a custom motor. Anyone knows how to do this? ### Assistant: hlozano, a user cannot add his own a custom motor inside RS5000... you need to request your local RA representative to have the custom profile created for you, giving them all the datas about the motors. Anyway this procedure should be approved from RA before they start with analysis and profile definition... so I think it isn't quick to get...:smileysad: May also try to ask if there is already a profile created for your motor... take a look to the following thread: LINK Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I tried this with an upgrade to an exisitng customer system using Baldor servos. Rockwell sent me a custom database file for the Baldor motor. It did not work, even after myself, a local Vendor rep and the local Rockwell drive guy tried for 2 days. We ended up replacing the servos with Rockwell servos. In all fairness they did refund my $500 for the custom programming. n"}
{"text": "### Human: IT, VPN and other horrors With all the PLC's we support in the field, flying to one to make a minor change or diagnose some programming problem (the programs always seem to re-write themselves at 2am...) is a waste of time and money.We've been using the RADKIT and RADES. They work Ok for small things but sometimes connections autobaud to as little as 2400bps due to the line characeristics. Some plants have UTP we can VPN onto if we can convince IT that the PLC won't magically allow hackers into their plant.If there an AB security white paper for Ethernet/IP, or even an ODVA one, that can soothe IT guys? ### Assistant: If you go to http://www.ab.com/networks/architectures.html you will find a number of white papers, design guides, presentations and recorded net meetings regarding the Rockwell and Cisco recommendations. There's a specific webinar recording for the IT guys, and if you go to the Design Guides bullet and open it up, you'll find the guides that Rockwell and Cisco prepared with reference architectures and the like. Lots of long PDFs -- I don't know if your specifics on VPN and remote access are addressed there, but the RA/Cisco Design and Implementation Guide is probably where I'd start. Some of the papers there were prepared by ODVA, so they should have the EtherNet/IP Stamp of Approval.... Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ I was looking into a Cellular modem. Rockwell has an encompassing partner that has a modem that can connect to the internet though networks like Verizon or att and many others. The LandCell product from CalAmp talks to many carriers and has different data transmission flavors for each network type. There are downsides to technologys this like getting a contract with the wireless supplier; but maybe your end user will entertain the cost. You will still have to deal with IT department because your connecting a remote access point inside there bulding to there equipment (and potientially there networks). It is hit or miss on wireless recpetion in most industrail plants but with this device you can get a high gain antennas and even mount it outside if nessisary. I think these devices are less than the RADES also. here. Not that this will help convince the IT guys, but ... 1 - The PLC is already on their network. So if it hasn't hacked anything so far, VPN won't change that. 2 - The VPN connect doesn't just give access to the PLC like a modem would. It gives access to the whole network (with whatever network permissions your account is set up with). The whole point of VPN is only allow trusted people into the network. That usually means only people that work for the company, so it's often hard to get an IT department to approve VPN access for a third party contractor. Remember, VPN is basically giving you the keys to the castle without the benefit of forcing you to be physically present at the castle. IT security guys have nightmares about that sort of thing. JHutch I have a couple of large customers that give us VPN access and limit it to the industrial subnet, in fact just to the list of IP's that define the Industrail equipment we need access to. They understand the cost advantage of not having to pay us to fly around the world to make minor changes to equipment.Money talks, engineering needs to convince management to push down on IT and that ethernet on the factory floor is here to stay. Yes, others do this by creating firewall rules that require authentication to the firewall. So you have to log in to the firewall with username and password to have access to the rule that lets you get from the outside onto the particular industrial/engineering VLAN or subnetwork. Between VLANs, Subnets, Firewalls and authentication rules, it's definitely the kind of thing you want IT help to set up. Good reason to cultivate a good relationship between plant/process/production engineering and plant/corporate IT. And document it well. Have a readable, clear policy. I've seen this happen at a couple global accounts, with temporary contractor accounts for startup/commissioning/support -- some with good IT/engr. relations and some with not so good. WAY easier when you get along with your IT professional! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Loss of DF-1 communications controllogix 5561 but connect to slc-5/03 's I have been using the same software and cables something was changed, reloaded links and logixs can not autoconfigure 1756-l61 but will autoconfig slc 5/03 , or micrologic with same cable and driver ### Assistant: sparkiee6, some ideas: Maybe inside the Logix controller something has been changed in serial port settings; if you can, try to go online thru other networks to see what happens and to recover the right settings. Otherwise, take out the battery and shutdown the cpu, to default it (in this case, remove also the CF card if it is installed, to be sure to not reload the program at powerup).If it is the first time you use this PC to go online with this controller, maybe you need EDS file for that cpu (Aid 54078)...which version of RSLinx are you using ?Which is the error do you get in Autoconfigure?If you have previously downloaded a program to this cpu, try to check which comm setting are inside the offline file; maybe it is configured as DH-485, not DF1.Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: The RAD Server on already has the maximum licensed number of clients I'm a pc tech at a power plant that uses rsview32. I accidentally disconnected the pc using rsview32 from the network while making changes to the LAN and now I'm getting the following error message: The RAD server on (Computername) already has the maximum licensed number or RAD clients connected. I looked at Rockwell's support knowledgebase and found answer ID 39447 which told me to end all RADSRV32.exe processes on the ADS server. Unfortunately this did not solve the problem. Can anybody recommend another solution? ### Assistant: Try the procedure in Aid 51529 (also Aid 55028). The floating client activation has not been released to the server due to abnormaly close of the client... Let me know.... - fuzzy logic I tried AID 51329 but was unable to find the FactoryTalk activation server anywhere. AID 55028 tells me to end the Radsvr32.exe process. I terminated the process on the server but still have the same problem. I'm running out of ideas here. JGarcia, did you try the following? From the RSView32 environment, open the command line and run Displayservermonitor.This will open a dialog box that will show what connections are currently being hosted by the server and will allow you to terminate the connection by highlighting it and clicking File --> Close Client. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: HELP ON PROGRAMMING HI I WANT SOME HELP TO UNDERSTAND THE RS LOGIX 5000 PROGRAMMING FROM BEGNNING HOW TO START,CONFIGURE THE MODULES AND DEVELOP THE LADDER LOGIC AND ADDRESSING THE I/O DEVICES. MAY GOD BLESS U THANKING U I WILL REMAIN ### Assistant: Take a look to the following link... RSLogix5000 Start Page Videos There are useful videos with all the information you need to start programming RS5000. Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTView SE getting Parameter files into Combobox with VBA Hello, I have screen with a MS Forms 2.0 ComboboxI want to list all the Parameter Files in this combobox and everytime I choosea file from that list, the screen should be updated with that parameter file. Or do I better work with a txt file with all names I need, and display those names in the combobox,so if you select a name, he will replace the ### Assistant: Jamy, let me ask a clarification... which is the reason of why don't you use a Display List Selector to do this ? :smileysurprised: Thanks...- fuzzy logic Well, because I need 200 selections and also it's not preferable for the customer, because if they add a new RTU in the field, they have to modify too many things in order to get it on the screen. :smileyhappy: Hi Jamy, How about something like this: ==================== Sub Button1_Released() Dim ParmeterFiles, ProjPath 'Set that long project path in a variable for convenient handling later.. ProjPath = C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocuments _ & RSView EnterpriseSEHMI ProjectsMyProjectPAR*.PAR ParameterFiles = Dir(ProjPath) Do While ParameterFiles <>  ComboBox1.AddItem Left(ParameterFiles, Len(ParameterFiles) -4) ParameterFiles = Dir Loop End Sub ==================== This will put the parameter files in a ComboBox - once they are there, it is up to you to do what you like with them. Hope that helps. P.S. To clear the ComboBox, you can issue a ComboBox1.Clear command. Ok, this will do the trick.Thx n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS EMULATOR DRIVER DEAR SIRI HAVE RS LOGIX 5000 VERSION 10 AND 13. I HAVE RS EMULATOR VERSION 15 AFTER CREATE THE MODULES;WHEN COMMUNICATE WITH RS LINK THE ADDNEW BUTTON IS DISABLED SO THE NEW DRIVER FOR RS EMULATOR IS NOT BE CONFIGURED,CAN ANY ONE HELP ME?THANKING U I WILL REMAIN ### Assistant: javaboy420, you can only have one Virtual backplane active driver in RSLinx Classic, that's the why the button is grayed out.... that means you've already a Virtual Backplane configured. Open it and you will see your new cpu there... Let me know... - fuzzy logic hi i try it but the following message is apper after i/o configrationFAILED TO CONNECT TO THE CONTROLLER.THE REVISION OF THE OFFLINE PROJECT AND THE CONTROLLER FIRMWARE ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.CONTROLLER TYPE= EMULATOR 15.39COMM PATH=AB_VBP-1/1REVISION=15.39AND THE OFFLINE PROJECTREVISION 13.22WHAT VERSION I INSTALL TO UPDATE THE CONROLLER FIRMWARE WHICH SUPPORT OR ANY OTHER SOLUTION?RSLOGIX VERSION 10 AND 13 ALREADY INSTALL IF I INSTALL VERSION 15 OF RSLOGIX 5000 WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH ACTIVATION KEY?BECAUSE I DO NOT LOOSE AGAIN FROM MY LAPTOP. javaboy420, you need to have your Controller firmware and your RS5000 project match (i.e. 15.xx controller can be programmed with version 15.xx of RS5000). You may install also version 15 on your laptop, the key will not be damaged and will also work for this version. edit: you may also create a v13 processor inside your RSEmulate5000 v15, so that you can download your program to it. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix to 1771-ASB communication I am in the process of converting a PLC5 system over to ControlLogix and I have a quick RIO question: I have a 16 slot chassis with a 1771-ASB adapter module that is replacing a PLC5/40. I think I should set the rack address to be the first logical rack (in this case 0) and the other racks will be 1-3. Then, it appears I need to add a 1771-ASB module for each LOGICAL rack in the chassis; not one module for the entire chassis. Also, the code I am converting alternates a BTR and BTW to a thermocouple module. However, the configuration never changes so I see no need to chew up processor time with constant BTRs. I would think I only need to do this at startup. Am I correct? Thanks. ### Assistant: cjvr, your assumption is correct. You need to assign by dips only the initial logical rack number of the chassis.The remote I/O adapter module automatically assigns the next higher I/O rack number to the remaining I/O groups of the chassis.In RS5000 you have to add many Adapters (I mean one every logical rack) under DHRIO module because there you can configure full logical rack by full logical rack; doesn't matter if phisically are all assigned to a single -ASB... remember that is just an assignment of an I/O image. About Block Transfers... I guess you was talking about BTW (I think you want write only at first scan the configuration inside the module, then you need to constantly read from it by BTR)... Anyway it can be done. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the response. And, yes, I had my Rs and Ws swapped. Storry of my life! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix5000 V16: Finding unused I/O points Is there an easy way to a list of unused digital I/O points ? ### Assistant: wireguy, I guess you've already seen Aid 40917 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CIP Messaging, Port A to Port B Greetings everyone, I've got a DH+ network with a 1756-DHRIO sitting in the center dividing the network in half. One half is hooked to port A and the other to port B. Previously when a PLC5 wanted to talk to the other half of the network, there was a remote link set up to route messages. I want to make sure I understand the CIP path for going in one port and out the other (to talk to a PLC5). From my source PLC, I do say, a PLC5 Typed Read. I use this for my path - DHRIO, 2, 35. That is, my card, out port A, to node 35 - which is the gateway dividing the networks. Then I use the communication method to select the channel (B) and the destination Node (4). If this was a CLX to CLX CIP, I would use DHRIO, 2, 35, 3, 4, 1, 0 - which would be Card, Net A, Node 35, Net B, Node 4, Backplane, Slot 0. I'm just used to hitting the backplane and then going out a different card when doing remote messaging. i.e. DHRIO, 2, 35, 1, 5, 2, 4 - which would be across the backplane, to slot 5, out net A (or enet) and to node 4. ### Assistant: Justin, there are some examples on RA - KB about CLX to PLC-5 over DH+ (use as search keywords message dh plc. About CLX to CLX CIP path, it is correct DHRIO, 2, 35, 3, 4, 1, 0Be aware that DH+ nodes are specified in Octal, so 35 decimal is 43 octal... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Yeah, thanks for the octal reminder. I just wasn't sure if you could bounce across ports without hitting the backplane. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Help with PV550 & RSLinx I'm probably missing something horribly simple, but could someone please give me some guidance on this? I'm trying to communicate (Upload/Download) with a PV550, the Comm LED and Fault LED are flashing, there's not an application on it yet. I have tried Auto Configure on the driver and all it does is time out on BCC or CRC error checking. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Device: SLC/CH0, PanelView, MicrologixBaud Rate: 19200Parity: NoneStop Bits: 1Station Number: 00 Error Checking: CRCProtocol: Full Duplex The PV550 is setup for DH485 Max Node: 31Node: 1Baud: 19200 ### Assistant: SystecTech, you're using a wrong driver in RSLinx... you need to use the one named 1747-PIC/AIC driver, giving a different node number than your PV. I guess you're using an RS-232 port on PV550, with DH-485 protocol.The cable should be 2711-NC13. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I tried using the driver that you specified on two different computers and it wouldn't work on either machine. The fault I was getting were several faults upon start up about the PIC driver not being able to start. So, at first some questions: Which is catalog number of your PV ?At which port are you connecting on PV ?With which cable ?And which port on PC ?Which Win OS is in your PC ? Also two major things: WINXP service pack 3 isn't supported by Rockwell SoftwaresYou need a true RS-232 port if you want to connect to an RS-232 PV (USB to RS-232 third party converters will not work). Try to go in the RA Knowledgebase and search for pic keyword, you may find out many cases on its driver installation... - fuzzy logic Is it possible to change the config mode from dh 485 to RS232? I was able to obtain the connection using a 1747 UIC that was not known to be in existence in our shop. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to subtract 64 bit CST value in Controllogix Hi, there are knowledge note to add 2*32 Bits CST value, however, anyone knows how to subtract 2*32 bits of CST value? it looks different with add functionthank you ### Assistant: The sample code library includes some 64 bit math add on instructions. here. type 64 in title field. hit search. Kelvin, Examples are also provided in the online RSLogix 5000 help. Look for the topic Arithmetic Status Flags, then scroll down to the links for the three examples. They show how to code 64-bit ADD, SUB and LES. One note on these examples (and the AOIs referenced in the reply above): you'll probably see a lot of Minor Faults, because every time the low-order 32-bit add (subtract) wraps, the S:V (overflow) status flag is set; if it was previously clear, that throws a Minor Fault. The Minor Faults take some time for the controller to log. Also, your end-user may have a minor fault indicator or alarm and won't want to see these. I don't think you can suppress them by clearing them in a fault routine -- I haven't tried this, so I don't know if it'll work. I always thought the fault routine was only executed for a Major Fault..... If you REALLY can't tolerate the Minor Faults, it's possible to write AOIs that break up the 64-bit operands into smaller chunks (say, 20, 20 and 24 bits within three DINTs), but the numerous BTDs will take a LOT longer to scan. Also, you won't be able to use the S:V, S:N (negative), S:C (carry - or borrow) or S:Z (zero) flags that the built-in DINT ADD and SUB generate, as they will only apply to the last DINT ADD/SUB/CPT done within the instruction -- and you don't know which ADD/SUB that is -- the low-order one, if it doesn't generate a carry, or the high-order one in the CPT (if the low-order one does generate a carry). For most apps you don't use S:C, S:N, S:V or S:Z. But if you want them, you'll have to generate your own within an AOI that includes your 64-bit ADD or SUB logic. Best of luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: UN_INSTALLATION OF RS EMULATOR VERSION 15.00 HI FELLOWSI WANT TO UN INSTALL THE RS EMULATOR VERSION 15 DUE TO SOME PROBLEM .BUT I LOST THE UN INSTALL.EXE FILE.SO I DELETE THE FOLDER RS EMULATOR FROM THE PROGRAM FILE.BUT THE ADD/REMOVE PROGRAM STILL SHOWING AND CANNOT REMOVE.WHEN I INSTALL AGAIN THE MESSAGE APPEAR U HAVE ALREADY INSTALL THE RS EMULATOR.WHAT CAN I DO? AND HOW TO INSTALL AGAIN? ### Assistant: Hi, take a look to this collection of technotes... Aid 37049Aid 40606Aid 28724Aid 36666 Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic Hi,i think there is no way now you can delete the emulate.The only thing possible is to get hard disk formatted and then you may install the emulate again.:smileywink: mmmhhh... For sure it isn't a good way to delete a folder without using uninstall procedure... the registry entries still remains there... and program still seems installed :smileysad: Anyway, I will have a try to the technote Aid 28724 (manual uninstall) before proceed to the formatting :smileytongue: Good luck !- fuzzy logic HII READ THE TECHNOTE AID28724 ACCORDING TO THIS I HAVE ONE PROBLEM WHICH IS I HAVE FOLLOWING For Version 15) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionUninstall{09D96199-F539-4DB8-A24B-257BD89C2DD9}-SETUP.LIG INSTAED OF HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionUninstall{09D96199-F539-4DB8-A24B-257BD89C2DD9} AND EmuLogix 5868.exeWHAT IS UR SEGESSTION? hiwhen i uninstall the rs emulator the dialog box appear and shows asFAILED=rs emulator 5000 chasis modulle first be removedPASSE=RSLINK MUST BE SHUT DOWNHOW CAN I REMOVE THE FIRST ONE OPTION WHICH SHOWS FAILED AND THEN UNINSTALLATION BEGIN. RSLogix Emulate 5000 Chassis Module must be removed?HOW?I READ THE ARTICLE ACCORDING TO THISClick start and go to run and type taskmgr and click ok. Once that comes up, click Processes and when the processes window appears, click Image name from the top of the processes listing. this will sort them in alphabetical order. End the application that begins with the letters RSL*.*. Once all Rockwell software is closed, Click retry to remove the Chassis Module and click continue. This should allow the uninstall of the program and install the new versionBUT I CANNOT FOUND RSL*.* IN THE PROCESSES WHAT CAN I DO? Try to do what explained in Aid 36666... see the screenshot... If you can open the RSLogix Emulate Chassis Monitor, check if all modules are removed.If you can't open it, only you may try again the Manual Remove in the registry...see also the screenshot... delete the key if it contains Display Name RSLogix Emulate 5000... Otherwise the formatting :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using a parameter in a Trend object Hi I want to use a parameter in a Object keys left mouse release command.Calling a displayDisplay /::VATabBladen /T101 On the display there is a trend, the substitution of the ### Assistant: RSView SE does not allow a parameter to be passed to the datalog model field... Anyway, you can use VBA to do this... Aid 29671 has an example. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View SE 5 with redundancy When can I use FT alarming with FT view SE redundancy ### Assistant: I guess you're talking about FactoryTalk Alarm & Events and you want to know if it is possible to use them in a redundant HMI FactoryTalk View SE application :smileysurprised: If this is the case, answer is NO, you can't. Have a look to the Aid 44177 ; it explains some limitations with CPR9 version of this service. - fuzzy logic FT Alarms and Events is not supported on the FT View SE platform nor the ControlLogix rendundancy platform. This has created a significant problem for us. We are controlling systems that can have very fast transients and need to use the FTA&E to allow us to capture sequence of events data at the time of the alarm (msec resolution) and the HMI tag based alarming is acceptable for this. Has the FTA&E redundancy defect affected others? I would be interested in discussing the issue with other people having this problem. n"}
{"text": "### Human: VBA error handling in the studio, confirmation of application.name Hallo Can someone confirm that the application.name in the errorhandler when running VBA in a display from within the studio has changed fromGraphics as stated in the documentation If Application.Name = Graphics Then ' Running in FactoryTalk View Studio To FactoryTalk View Studio as you can see in the VBA watch Thank youMarnix ### Assistant: Hello Marnixvust, When I run the following code snippet from test run mode in FT Studio: Sub Test() MsgBox Application.Name End Sub the popup displays FactoryTalk View Studio. That's pretty conclusive - help file is out of date. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Logs RSView32 Server with user names and passwords, when the client is connected to the server the operator have to put their username and password in order to do certain tasks, all this alarms and out of alarm are being log on the server but when I start looking thru the log to see who did what at a certain time it gives me the log but under the user name of the server not the client username. My question is is there a way for the username from the client to come up on the log and not the server log on? Any help would be appreciated Thanks... ### Assistant: Sorry, Mr. G, but depending on what commands are being executed, they will execute either at the client or the server. If they execute at the server, then the identity will be the of the server, not the client. AID 3667 gives a list of commands and where they execute - I think this is also in the Getting Results booklet. A less-than-satisfactory solution is to enable client-side logging. This creates text files on the client that keep track of client activity. Client side logging is enabled by checking that option in the RAD Client wizard or by manually configuring the registry per AID 4971. But this would mean you would need to look in 2 places for activity. You might try using the RSView32 Security button. This allows you to add the placeholder {RSViewUserName}. So you could issue a Remark {RSViewUserName} executing command...<fill in the blank> and this string would be logged in the server's activity log. Hope this helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Two drives driving the same axe I have an application with a drum driven by two wheels. each wheel has a motor and each motor an independent PF700 drive. drives are communicating via devicenet.Problem is that speed is initialy set at same setpoint. One wheel is always going a bit faster than the other what causes one drive has an actual speed that is greater than the speed setpoint. This causes the drive to decelerate and that causes a high DC Bus voltage. Finally the drive trips. at this point i decreased the setpoint of the drive which is at setpoint. One drive has now an output setpoint 1.25 hz lower than the other one and both are now at setpoint. When in the future a wheel/motor is replaced the problem will be there again.Does anybody knows a structural solution? ### Assistant: can u send me the pictorial representation of the drum and drives mounted?as such i think it is a load sharing application.if it is so then u got to set droop in one the drive which is going faster that is parameter 152 as per your application.hope it helps. how does the droop function exactly work. when drive is at FLA then the RPM reference is reduced with the setting at 152. Or does it reduce the reference speed also below FLA? gjstrurm,it actually reduces your output RPM at FLA from the setting done at par. 152.You can refer the pf700 reference manual.:smileyhappy: Vikas, That means that the drive is always running at FLA.When not reaching FLA the RPM's are not reduces. When reachting FLA the RPM's are reduced what probably causes the current drop below FLA, what causes the RPM correction to disappear. Yes,this reduction in speed is just at FLA.This document may help you out.:smileyhappy: At the current application both drives current are 55% of FLA. When i set droop 1 will run at FLA and use more current to solve the friction. also the output freq is going to fluctuate. I don't think the droop function will work for me. gjstrum,you try out this at once.Pls let me know the results. Vikas, I will try, but not this week. production line is running. have to wait for a weekend (or new problems) Thanks for your help Gert-Jan gjstrum,did you try out droop?just curious to find out the result.:smileyvery-happy: Vikas, No, have to wait for a weekend when i'm there for another job. and that is not every weekend. They have no more problems now. I'll let you know when i know more.....:smileywink: well, this is quite simple to solve regardless of the brand of drive you are using....and droop isn't the way to do it. Neither is toying with speed setpoints. driveguy, you've stimulated some interest... so where is the solution you suggest ?:smileysurprised: Or a payment is needed in order to know it? :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Alright, alright. :smileysurprised: What I would do is set up one drive (the master) as a regular speed regulator, that's it, no parameter mods here. The second drive (the slave) I would program the same as the first, but I would set up parameters to overspeed the drive by X% (example 5%) faster than the master setpoint, then I would feed the torque demand out of the master to the second drive feeding it into it's torque limit in the appropriate direction. You could subtract 5% off of that torque limit if needed. This allows 1) the master to control speed appropriately 2) the slave to help the master without over driving it 3) one drive isn't saturated to FLA (full torque) as the droop example presents but rather the load should be evenly shared Good that I could peak your interest, again cash and cc accepted. :smileywink: mmmmh.. ok, we have to wait GJ to make the tests and to validate your solution... before to proceed to the payment ! :smileyvery-happy: Many thanks for your contribution... I'm always interested in simple solutions that make easy what seems difficult... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Driveguy,i got u.You actually taking about master-slave follower configuration ( i.e torque follower configuration).But here in this case both the drives are getting same speed reference so droop should work fine here.Here you may see both the configuration as : Yes I do agree the droop should work, but I don't think the load would be shared as one drive will be running at FLA and the other at possibly near nothing. As far as the speed follower torque follower drawings you posted, my suggestion is a mix between the two. Yes they are sharing a speed reference and they should continue to do that, but for the follower that reference should be scaled by ~1.05 times. What I am suggesting that should be added is the torque demand from the master be fed to the follower as a limit or a clamp, if needed by the application scale it by 0.95. The load should be evenly shared then. GJ,did you try out droop?Pls lemme know in case you try out. It's a kind of a problem to test because the customer has to pay for the test and at the moment they have no more problems with it, what causes the urgence to drop to a very low level. it is also quit a drive for me. At christmas holiday i'm in that factory for a couple of days. i might have some hours left to do the tests. anyway thanks for the support until now. Gj I Don't believe this is correct. Droop works at all torque levels looking at the function blocks.At 50% torque the droop amount is 50% of Full Torque amount. So if droop is set at 100 rpm then at 50% torque the rpm is reduced by 50 rpm which is how it will load share with another drive to keep them both pulling the same. Best n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView datalog Is there a way to see my log other than in a trend view within the project? I know i can export the data but the users are easly confused, so i would like to show the data in a spreadsheet format within the project. ### Assistant: What product are we talking about? RSView32? FTView SE? FTView ME? RSView32 has an ActiveX called the RSViewLogViewer that will allow you to display logged data in a row/column format similar to a spreadsheet. SE and ME do not have this ActiveX control. The best workaround I have found is to use Excel. The tech note I use for this frequently is AID 29789. Other than this, you could use the RSView Enterprise Log Viewer utility (see AID 33924). This is a standalone utility that can read files from both SE and ME. RSView SE 4.00 CPR7 with patch rollup nov 08. Can i use the RSView Enterprise Log Viewer utility as an app like the alarm log viwer and have a button link to that? And if so where can i find it? The RSView Enterprise File Viewer is available from AID 33924. You can use AppStart to launch it from a button. n"}
{"text": "### Human: INSTALLATION OF RS LOGIX 5000 HII HAVE ALREADY INSTALL RS LOGIX 5000 VERSION 10 AND 13.AND I USE THESE.BUT FOR RS EMULATOR VERSION 15 I NEED TO INSTALL VERSION 15.IF I INSTALL VERSION 15 WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE ACTIVATION KEY OR REQUIRED ANOTHER ACTIVATION KEY?THE SECOND PROBLEM IS THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH MY PROJECT IF I OPEN IT AFTER VERSION 15 INSTALLATION?CAN IT IS POSSIBLE TO SWITCH BETWEEN DIFFRENT VERSIONS? ### Assistant: Just one note: in RSEmulate5000 v15, you may also create a CPU version 13, so that you may download your program done with v13 of RS5000...:smileysurprised: Anyway the activation key is always the same, also for version 15 that you'll install, so proceed with the installation if you like.Then, as you will have v10, v13 and v15 installed, when you 'll open your project done with v13, nothing will happen...I mean RS5000 automatically will launch using v13, as before. If you want to update the program to v15, you need to change it in the controller properties (with the older version of the project open, go to Controller Properties and click on the Change Controller button.Select the new version and the project will be converted). - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: HELP ON RS LINK AND RS NETWORK HII WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE RSLINK AND RS NETWORK.I WANT HELP CAN ANY ONE SEND ME ARTICLE OR SOME PRACTICAL EXAMPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.HOW CONFIGRATION START?THANKING U I WILL REMAIN ### Assistant: Download the following, it is a pratical guide useful to start with RSLinx Classic: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/gr/linx-gr001_-en-e.pdf The same for RSNetworx (Devicenet ? Controlnet ? Ethernet/IP ? ) http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/gr/dnet-gr001_-en-e.pdfhttp://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/gr/cnet-gr001_-en-e.pdfhttp://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/gr/enet-gr001_-en-e.pdf - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 70 Accel 1 & Accel 2 timing I have a PF 70 EC on Cnet and want to use Accel 1 and Accel 2 inputs to change the machines ramp up time part way to the full run speed. example: I want the machine to ramp up from 0 rpm to 115 rpm with a 5 second Accel and then turn Accel 1 low and Accel 2 high and ramp up from 115 to 130 rpm with a 20 second ramp time. My question is what will happen when the drive is ramping up to my 130 rpm run speed with the Accel 1 input high and I put Accel 1 low and then turn accel 2 high part way through the ramp up? will the drive fault or will it just accept the new acceleration time? ### Assistant: Zazzin,i think it should be working.The drive will actually ramp up to the desired speed as soon as you switch over to the next accel time.Hope it works. It works.Acceleration times can be dinamically switched, also during ramp up... the drive will adapt the ramp to the last setting.I mean you may start with Acc 1, switch to Acc 2 and then again to Acc 1 , all during the time the motor is reaching the Commanded Frequency. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix - serial port - Intouch Someone knows how I can get to connect a ConpactLogix using the serial port, with Intouch 10.0. I think it's necesary a special driver but I have no license for that, what could be the way that I can get this without RSlinx.Thanks for your help, Att.GL JHutch - Changed title to reflect content ... it was my fault originally when I moved the thread here. ### Assistant: It depends on what you are trying to do with your connection with that Intouch. If all you want to do is read some data, in you have serveral OPC options, Kepserver or RSLinx (i know you mentioned not using RSlinx, but in this way only as an OPC server). Basically you need an OPC server to do this... as Ozzy wrote, RSLinx or Kepware can do it, but also maybe you've already for your Intouch the DAServer.. I saw many Intouch users utilize it... take a look to this LINK Producer site (Software Toolbox) : LINK - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: where is my quesstion? hii can not find my quesstion which i post last 2 days and i wait or a reply?how many days a quesstion is stay in the forum? quesstion about un installation of rs emulator ### Assistant: javaboy420, there isn't a limit in time for a question to stay in a Board.... problem is that your questions were in the wrong board, so a Moderator has moved them to the right place.You cannot see these other Boards because of the following: There are some boards that require you to have a support contract with Rockwell to see them. If you already have a TechConnect support contract, you can put your authorization number directly into your profile and the boards will become immediately available. See this post in the Welcome section for more information. - fuzzy logic hihow can i get the support contract ? The last place I worked we had to talk to our Local AB distributor (Rexel in my case; there is a plug for ya' Scotty). We put 4 Bakeries under 1 contract, It was not cheap but I guess it was worth it, I left just after it taken care of. The place I work at now does not have enough consistantcey in equipement to get one YET. I am working on it though I am buying all AB Rockwell or nothing. Also, javaboy, whenever one of the moderators move a thread (and yes, it is usually me ;) ) there is a forwarded thread left in the old spot, saying it has been moved, where it was moved to and a link to it. There is a also a explanation of why it may no longer be visible, which is basically what fuzzy copied in above. As far as getting a support contract, the best place to go is your local distributor (the same person/company you bought your equipment through). Good luck,JHutch PS Normally this would be a question for the FAQ area, but I'm leaving it here so that everyone can find it easier. :) n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connections According to 1756-UM058C-EN-P ControlLogix Digital IO Modules User Manual, page 2-6, under IMPORTANT, a Logix5550 controller allows up to 250 bidirectional connections. However, according to page 2-7, under IMPORTANT, each controller can only establish 255 connections in any combination of direct or rack. Furthermore, according to 1756-SG001K-EN-P ControlLogic Selection Guide, 1756 ControlLogix controller has 250 connections. How many connections for Logix5550 controller can have anyway？ ### Assistant: Trank, take in consideration what is indicated on the last Selection Guide... anyway 250 is the correct value for that controller... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Auxilary Contacts on Service Disconnect If I have a roof mounted motor controlled by PF400 and I put a service discon. on the roof to be in code. Do I need to put aux cont. in my discon to protect the drive if someone shuts off the power while it is running, at 3grand apiece I DO NOT Want it burn it up. ### Assistant: DDP, as per my experience, opening the ouput line of a drive when the motor is running, can potentially damage the drive... I've seen it happen many times...:smileysad: Normally this protection devices should be used when drive is already stopped, to be a safety precaution before a maintanance guy want to work on the motor or the mechanical part beside it, to avoid an uncontrolled restart of the motor. It should not be intended as a way to stop the motor.So you have to be sure to stop the drive before open it, to avoid a potential burn... - fuzzy logic So I guess the answer is yes it should have aux contacts tied into the stop curcuit. I sounds a heck of alot cheaper than a new drive. I am a firm believer in belts and suspenders, you can't make everything fool proof but, what you can control, you should try. For now at least I am just a ''maintenance guy'', but I know my enginner wants to retire some day and I will be benifitting from looking into the future at cost savings. Thanks for the input FL!DDP DID IT! n"}
{"text": "### Human: NEW TO CONTROLS PF 400 SIMPLE 2 SPEED HOOK UP I HAVE A PF 400 I AM TRYING TO HOOK UP TO AN EXHAUST HOOD WITH OUT PLC. ALL I NEED IS A SIMPLE 2 SPEED CONFIQURATION. I KNOW I CAN ADJUST IT ON THE FACE PANEL BUT I DO NOT WANT ANYBODY TO MESS WITH IT, TRYING TO MAKE IT FOOL PROOF TO A POINT:smileyhappy:. ANY HELP WOULD BE COOL. ### Assistant: DDP, an easy method, using two fixed speed, could be to use Preset Frequency, activated in this case with just one Digital input (terminal 05); terminal 06 isn't connected (that means logic 0) so you have the first speed if dig in 1 is open and the second speed if it is closed.The two speed are presetted in param A143, A144.Following some screenshots from User Manual in order to correctly configure this function. Hope this helps...:smileywink:- fuzzy logic Thanks FL, I was looking at something wrongly then I had thought about 17 and 18 for the 2nd speed and just using the start run for the first speed. With your method I can use a 24 volt coil on my relays(external) to fire a series lights from my selector switch to indicate which speed I am in also.:robothappy: I guess it was solved before I checked it off as solved, since I did not check t off. Other folks can marked it off as solved, too, if the suggestion solved the same issue for them. Sounds like that is what happened in this case. JHutch Thanks for the clarifacation. BTW fuzzylogic it worked, but I still have questions I'll post in a new topic. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Maintained Contact for start?? I have a PF 400 and I thought I could confiqure it to use just a push to start momentary button and it would maintain but everytime I let go of said button it shuts down. I would rather not have a latching relay as I would need to have one more speciality item on the shelf for repairs. I would also rather not have a maintained button for the start for the same reason. Any ideas on confiquring the drive or relays would be greatly appreciated. DDP ### Assistant: DDP, you may want to use the configuration indicated in the screenshot... in any case you need to use another pushbutton to stop the drive... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic OK I see it now, I have it confiqured under 2 wire:smileysad:. I am using a maintained lighted E-stop.Thanks Again FL. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controllers Supported in Enhanced CLX Redundancy System Is the below configuration feasible in enhanced CLX redundancy system: - 1 1756-L62 and 1 1756-L63 (total 2) in each redundant chassis. ### Assistant: Yes it is possible. See the screenshot above... also consider that the mix of controllers type is possible, but remember that the two redundant chassis should be identical. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarm Summary RSVew 4.0 I have an alarm summary screen and would like to set up the execute button to bring me to a display to reset the fault. We have 5 different displays that the operator would open to reset the alarm. What display the operator needs to open depends on the alarm and some times confusing as to where he needs to go to reset the fault. We would like to use the execute command to display the proper display depending on what alarm is selected in the alarm summary. Is this possible using the execute button on the alarm summary? ### Assistant: In the alarm configuration of each alarm, you specify the Identify field with a Display XXXXX command where XXXXX is the name of the display you want to navigate to, and you use the execute button on the alarm summary to trigger the identify command. Thanks it works great. Hi, I have a similar doubt. The issue is this: I have two Clients, each one display different displays because are two different procces. I want to filters the alarms, I mean, I want that in Client 1 display only alarms related with a Process 1, and in Client 2 display only alarms related with Process 2, I write to Rockwell support by the Knowledgebase but the answer was that i can filter the alarms with the alarm summary object but my project was done in RSView 4.0 and only has the HMI TAG ALARM SUMMARY. The alarm summary object is only in FTView 5.0. How can i do this in RSview 4.0 ? Thanks. Hayver, I think there are some misunderstanding here... :smileysurprised: What is new in FactoryTalk View v5.0 is the Alarm and Event Summary... Alarm Summary and HMI Tag Alarm Summary are meant to be the same... You may, in v4.0, use the Filter Menu in the editor (see screenshot) or the Filter button in HMI Tag Alarm Summary at runtime to select which Alarms are to be visible to a particular client. See chapter 11 in FactoryTalkView SE User Manual. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inview -P22R Ethernet TCP/IP Please take a look to the following screenshot.... which is the right information? The first part is taken from http://www.ab.com/eoi/inview/panelmountdisplay.htmlThe second from Inview User manual... Also the technote Aid 22623 explains how to connect to Ethernet PC using an external card... nothing to do with an embedded port... Anybody can help ? :smileysurprised: Thanks,- fuzzy logic ### Assistant: The only Inview Display that come standard with Ethernet TCP/IP is the 2706-P9x...So, something is wrong in the online site Product Feature. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Magnetic Speed Pick-up Is the ControlLogix 1756-HSC capable of handling Magnetic speed pickups? The Following page contains a very good explaination of a magnetic pickup:http://www.daytronic.com/products/trans/t-magpickup.htmIf this card can not handle a device with such a large range of voltages is there a card availible that can? Thank you, sgeffert. ### Assistant: sgeffert, unfortunately the -HSC module is not compatible with these devices. :smileysad:Also I can remember of some modules that can handle them, but not with so high voltages (for example the 1794-IJ2 is selectable for 50mV or 500 mV magnetic pickup) - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy Logic. It may be posible to find a pickup that small, or I suppose we can use a signal conditioner of sorts for a signal of such high voltages. Thanks again, sgeffert. n"}
{"text": "### Human: A stupid 1771-OFE question... I am trasnfering a PLC5/40 program to MicroLogix and am working on the BTs to the retained 1771 IO. Why do you need to do a BTR to a 1771-OFE analog output module? There is no description of what the 5 words you read mean. Thanks, Chris ### Assistant: cjvr, BTR is used to read the status from the module... Informations for 1771-OFE/B are inside User Manual chapter 5.If the module is an older 1771-OFE, this is the correct LINK page 13. - fuzzy logic Chris, If I recall correctly, you don't have to do the BTR with the 1771-OFE. It will work with BTW only -- at least it did with PLC-5s in my past life. The BTW going done tells you the communication is working OK. But you don't get the status back (that's in the BTR) that shows that what the module thinks it got from you in the BTW is _good data_. Best of luck, Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: CIP connection (x) timed out on route (y) with (z) Packets on connection We have an OIT that is running RS View 4.0 client(Stand Alone) that from time to time drop's out and everything wire frames. When I checked the Factory talk Diagnostic log we are getting CIP connection timed out, then Event detector expression evaluation error in expression, then CIP connection open rejected error. I have read everything that I could find on this error and have changed the system overhead time slice from 40% to 50% and still get these errors and the OIT still drop's out and starts to wire frame. Does anyone know of a way to trouble shoot this and could possibly help me with this. ### Assistant: Ron, Do you have the RSLogix 5000 Task Montior Tool installed (optional when you install RSLogix5000)? If you can get to the controller with that from your programming workstation while the View Standalone Client is running, you can watch what the Connection counts, task CPU usage and Trend Object counts do. Maybe see if you are using and not giving up connections or trend objects, stuff like that. Look for something where the high-water value keeps moving up, or some parameter is near its limit. Also, if you are using a 1756-ENBT or similar, you can take your web browser and enter the IP address of the card as the node in the URL (like http://192.168.2.3/ ) and get displays of diagnostics for the ENBT. Look for error counters counting up, memory counting down, etc., as before. I mention the trend objects because View uses them to put tags on scan and take them off scan as you change screens. They're like controller-firmware versions of OPC Groups -- each trend object is basically a list of data items and how often to update them. If the trend objects are grabbed and never released by View, your controller memory gets used up and it takes bunches of CPU to manage them. I assume your View client/server box has the latest patches, especially those for DCOM issues. Look for the Patch TOC on the KnowledgeBase for your version of view, download the rollup and apply if you haven't. If you only installed View 3.2 or 4.0 from the CD, you'll DEFINITELY want the patches. Best of Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Master Time setup What is the best way to syncronize the time between a FTView 5.0 project on a Windows server 2003 and 3 ControlLogix processors? Thanks, Kevin ### Assistant: kev77, a solution is presented in the following technote: Aid 32535 If your CLX processors are all in the same local chassis, you may communicate this Time and Date only to one of them, making it the CST master. Otherwise you have two options:Use the same Aid above three times for the three controllersProduce the datas you receive in a CLX from SE and consume them from other controllers.I think the first solution give more accuracy in syncronization... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I think I left something out. One of the main reasons I want to sync the time with the server is that my clients run on versaviews and when I pull up the trends, if the time is off by 1 minute I have a a straight line whitch the users think is real data. I also have reports that move data at 7:00am every day and if the time is off, the data might be missed. If I use the SSV command to set the time, where does it get the current time from? What am I missing here? I want the HMI Server to be the master for everything. Thanks or you help! kev77, with the above indicated solution, you will use the SE system time and date and send it to the PLC. SSV basically use the data you give to it in SOURCE field... See also the following technotes: Aid 34786Aid 32549 - search for time synchronization Windows Time Service Technical Referencehttp://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/a0fcd250-e5f7-41b3-b0e8-240f8236e2101033.mspx?mfr=true Administering the Windows Time Servicehttp://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/ac86e77c-0be3-430a-ba0b-c2225506fc4f1033.mspx?mfr=true Configure a domain controller in the parent domain as a reliable time sourcehttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Operations/dd2ca576-2644-4b8c-9d3c-73802196ef9a.mspx Configure a client computer for automatic domain time synchronizationhttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Operations/8990703a-a197-4717-b6e5-b7406d9f91f0.mspx It may help... - fuzzy logic All, If you don't have a domain controller or even a domain, you can also set up Windows (XP workgrouups, at least) to synchronize time with one member of the workgroup. Here's how to do it: Windows XP Workgroup Time Synchronization This procedure assumes that a group of PCs are in an isolated network (in other words, not on a Domain and no path to the Internet). First, verify that all the workgroup PCs are communicating with each other. You can use the PING command at the Command Prompt, or if you have the Ping port blocked by a firewall, verify that some other network function (like shared folders) works between all the PCs in the Workgroup. Second, on ALL PCs in the Workgroup, open the Windows Firewall (or other firewall software) and allow communication via IP Port 123 via UDP. For Windows Firewall, open the Windows XP Security Center and select the Windows Firewall link at the bottom of the window. Select the Exceptions tab and add an Exception – give it the name “NTP” – then select UDP and enter port 123. Next, select one PC in the Workgroup to be the “time server”. On the “time server” PC, perform the following procedure to set it up as a “time server”. 1. Set the time. 2. On the “time server” PC, open the Registry Editor. Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesW32TimeConfig Change the value of the “AnnounceFlags” key from 10 to 5. This tells the Windows Time Service to consider the machine as “always a time server” and “always a reliable time source”. 3. On the “time server” PC, go to Control Panel | Administrative Tools and open Services. Select the Windows Time Service and restart it. (Or just stop it and then start it.) This will make the change above effective without having to reboot. On each of the OTHER PCs in the Workgroup, perform the following procedure to set the machine to sync its time to the “time server” PC: 1. Open a Command Prompt window. 2. Type the following commands: w32tm /config /syncfromflags:MANUAL /manualpeerlist:<server>,0x8 w32tm /config /update w32tm /resyncOn the first line above, “<server>” is the node name or IP address of the “time server” PC (no angle brackets, no quotes). After the “resync” command above, you should get a success message and the PC’s time should match the time on your selected “time server”.[ with thanks to Stefan Atev's Blog ] Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 5/05, 1747-OS501 FAULT Over the last 6 months I have had about 6 CPU failures. They have all failed in the same way i.e. Fault light on. When unit is powered down and then switched back on first the fault light comes on, then the battery light comes on. After that the force, ethernet, rs232 and battery lights start flashing. At tyhe beginning after the second one failed I sent it to be repaired but it came back no fault found although I have since used these ones. I have tried setting it back to the default factory setting but this results in the same failure.Has anyone any ideas what the problem is. David ### Assistant: David, please verify if you've already followed all the steps in the Aid 23987; also asexplained in the technote, using a different power supply has solved similar issues. Be aware also to properly ground your PLC as explained in User Manual and ifpossible check your system for noise related issues (sometimes I've seenprocessor fault due to some noise coming from serial port cable...) Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DeviceNet Basics of Explicit Messaging documentation please? Hello, I am trying to program 1735-VHSC5 high speed counter in DeviceNet I am new in devicenet and I confused with explicit messaging. Counter's manual does not give me enough info. Looking around I found that I need document G16551 Explicit Messaging from the Knowbase . I logged in but still document is locked. I live in Greece and there is no representative here, so it is difficult to get any support. Can anybody tell me how to get this documentation?Thanks a lotVasilis ### Assistant: VASILIS, consider also another very useful document, in the Aid 24322,that contains some guidelines to use that module. Problem is maybe you can't see these technotes because you've not issued a TechConnect Contract with Rockwell.See this links to get info about it. http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Hello&thread.id=3http://www.rockwellautomation.com/services/remote/techconnect/Aid 51415 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: off state current on 1794 -OA8 I am using an output on the 1794-OA8 to drive a solid state relay. The off state current from the OA8 is enough to partially energize the solid state Relay. The status LED on the relay lights dimly when the OA8 is powered. When the output is turned on, the LED gets brighter and the relay sends power to the actuator. The am using two relays per actuator - one relay to open and one relay to close. They work when only one is connected to the actuator, but when I connect both, the off state current picks up the one not energized by the output enough to make the actuator try to close and open at the same time. What would be the correct way to block the off state current from the 1794-0A8? ### Assistant: Hugh, We had this problem back in the good old days when linking two controllers via discrete I/O, wirhing an output on one PLC (1771-OA) to an input on another PLC (1771-IA) for interlocking. We needed to have a resistor across the IA input to take the leakage current so the input voltage would be low enough in the OFF state to show as actually OFF. If you google 1771-2.1 you'll find the first item is the old 1771-IA data sheet. If you scroll down, you'll see the circuit for the above application. The resistor specified is a 2.5 kOhm 10W (that's right, 10 WATT!) unit. I'd suggest starting with a larger resistance (say 10k, 20k) and see if that takes care of it. You'll still need a 2W or so rating. I assume an electromechanical relay is too slow or otherwise not usable in the application. Some of the really small sub-ice-cube units do this very nicely. 1/2 wide or narrower socket-mounted units work fine. Good Luck,Dale, W8ABZ Thanks Dale,will let you know how it works - it does work with cubes but we wanted to use some solid state stuff we had. Hugh n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View Studio errors, does not exist. Hi there, I have been having problems for a while on trying to get this factorytalk view studio running for a month plus. I have been going through forums, tech support but I still does not get any resolve answer. I believe there are people out there having the same problems too. I hope I can get this problem resolve here and help others out too. Problem:When I startup Factorytalk View Studio, evrey part of the screen loads and it ended up with Computer M1000 does not exist in Factory Talk Directory. Please contact your administrator. I have tried uninstalling all the softwares including rslogix and linx, and restart and reinstall and I have the same results. I tried running the FactoryTalk Directory wizard and it still gives me the same error. Please I hope someone out there can assist me in this problem. Currently, My client requires updates on their screens but I could not update it for them at all cause my software is not working. Please reply this post and/or email me at jheng@graphicinnovators.com Thank You,Johnny ### Assistant: Johnny, you've mentioned you've ran FactoryTalk Directory Configuration Wizard... Did you follow the short procedure explained in Aid 51491 ? Also, you've not mentioned if you're using ME or SE, and if the last if it is a Networked solution... in that case take a look to Aid 30375 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1000 MSG instruction Can anyone tell me how to use the MSG instruction on the Micrologix 1000 to send messages to Matrix Orbital LCD display using a RS232 connection? ### Assistant: hre, you don't mention the model of your LCD... looking at the Matrix Orbital site, there are many models... :smileysurprised:Anyway some of those seems to use an ASCII protocol to change what is displayed...in that case I think you will have some problems, because the Micrologix 1000 has not the ASCII protocol over its serial port...:smileysad: Otherwise, please specify the model and the protocol you want to use... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 700 Encoder Access On a PF 700, can the encoder count be accessed by ControlLogix through Ethernet? If so, what would be the most efficient way. I won't be using this information for precision positioning or anything, but as a way to roughly track the distance traveled on a chain. ### Assistant: I think a way is to use Datalinks, linking an Output Datalink to the parameter you need (i.e. Par. 414, Enc Position Fdbk).If you have RS5000 v16 or above you may easily setup this in the I/O configuration for your drive connected over Ethernet/IP; then you have your data available in the Controller Tags. (see attached screenshots)Have a look to the User Manual for 20-COMM-E and also the Aid 44844 (it is for Devicenet, but Datalink are the same also in Ethernet) in order to correctly configure your Datalinks. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Sorry about the delay in responding, but yes this did help, (R16 method) and thank you very much. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000 Mini Edition With the Mini edition can you still edit the MAM and MAS instructions? are the rungs that contain these instsructions editable? Does the restriction just prevent changing the current motion setup? nodes? axis properties? ### Assistant: Gudelman, following the answer... - MAM and MAS are still editable, also you may create new motion instructions and obviously edit their rungs - You may create a new drive over Sercos and associate/create an axis for it - You CANNOT open Axis properties, so you can't configure it - You CANNOT open Motion Group properties Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: command fault on 1746-hstp1 module Keep getting this fault when tring to jog the axis. slc503, 2 1746-hstp1 moduleconnected to md808-128 controller. When through the module book and set it all up, but get a command fault when tring to move axis. Let me know what other info you need to try to help meplease. Thanks, Wayne ### Assistant: Wayne, I guess you have the ERR led on and bit 12 on in the Input Word 0.That means something in the output command words is not correct.Double check what is indicate in attached screenshot. Take also a look to the suggestion in Aid 43983. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can I control an MPL-330P servo motor using an old 1394-AM03 drive? I would like to install an MPL-330P motor on a few lines without upgrading the drive, as this would require a major rework. ### Assistant: JLawler, could be important to know which 1394 Controller you have, not just the axis module.... Anyway, take a look to the following technote: Aid 57030 edit: take also a look to the attached screenshot, taken from an old Motion Selection Guide... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Upload from Panelview 600 with Panelbuilder 32 I can't seem to get the panelbuilder 32 to upload from a panelview 600, I use a rs232 with 9 pin cable wired pin 2-2 , 3-3 , 5-5 just like the kowledge base said. I get a  no ack  from the panelbuilder when I try to upload. I have tried to do a link thru rsLinx, and select a serial port. I don't have the panelview program, I just need to upload so I have a copy. I am using a usb to serial converter, as I do not have a serial port on my laptop. Thanks ### Assistant: Not all serial ports are running the same protocol. What is the full part number of your PV? (ie, 2711-t6c16) Could be as simple as trying to a use a DF1 driver when your PV speak DH485. JHutch The Panelview serial # 2711-T6C5L1 Your Panelview is an RS-232 with DH-485 protocol. The cable you're using is correct, the comm driver should be the one named 1747-PIC/AIC driver  in RSLinx Classic. Problem is that this will not work with your USB to serial converter. :smileysad: You need either a true RS-232 port or a 1747-UIC, that is an USB to DH-485 converter from Rockwell. Also be sure to use the RS-232 Comm Port on PV, the other is only for printing. edit: corrected as per user information. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic OK, Rockwell gets you coming and going, I will find another laptop and try that. The panelview has only the one rs232 port on it.Thanks Yes, there is only one port on that model. If the 5 was a 9 there would be two ports (one would be a serial printer port). Basically, you're getting hit by moving technology. When serial DH485 was developed, USB wasn't even available yet. I don't even think they were working on the official USB specification yet. Windows serial interface was completely different back then too (and for those that have tried to use PIC devices on Vista, you know its finally changed beyond recovery!). So, now, the PIC device won't work with USB converters. Rockwell saw the way things were going a few years back and introduced the 1747-UIC which is a USB to DH485 device. As Rockwell comms devices go, it's pretty inexpensive. Hope that helps explain how we go to this point. (I know it's making me feel old to realize I've lived through that much Rockwell history ...) JHutch Yes, you're right, your PV catalog # come with only one serial port on it. :smileytongue: In that case, be sure to also check on that port isn't enabled the print mode. edit: again a wrong indication... but why I've started reply this thread ?! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic On the single port model, there is no option to enable the printer port, so you don't have to worry about that. But this is just background info. The driver issue identified above is the cause. :) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Motor amperage input---SLC 504 Engineering has asked for a motor amperage display on a PV600.I am using a SLC 504 processor; motor FLA is 2.3A.Can anyone suggest a real easy way to get the signal from that current transformer into the SLC? ### Assistant: aikorob, you may find many suggestions here: http://www.control.com/thread/1026198328 Basically you may use a Current Transformer and a converter to 4-20 mA to go in an Analog module of SLC. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic www.loadcontrols.com have instruments made specifically for measuring motor power and load.www.ohiosemitronics.com and www.dataforth.com both make instruments that will convert the CT output to a 10V or 20mA analog signal compatible with the PLC inputs. Thanks,I will contact the local LoadControls rep----I like their solution the best n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700S using 20-COMM-D interface Peer-to-Peer I have a pair of PF700S drives using a synclink configured as a master-slave electronic line shaft setup where there is a 20-COMM-D card on each drive for communication with the main controlller. We setup a peer-to-peer link using the 20-COMM-D card between the drives. We are sending (P158)Drive Logic Rslt of master through (P660) Datalink A to cmd/ref of slave for start/stop operation and switching the Cmd/Ref. Presently the Master (P42)Peer out time is 0.01 seconds and (P43) Peer out skip is 1. The Slave (P36) Peer Inp Timeout is 0.50 seconds. If I make the master (P42)Peer out time is 1 second and the Slave (P36) Peer Inp Timeout is 1 second. I fault the slave drive mostly right away but using shortly after starting them. The devicenet is running at 125Kb and there are only 3 devices as outlined above on the network. Have anyone used Peer-to-Peer in a 20-COMM-D card?Anything to watch out for? ### Assistant: djr, any informations about the fault you get on the slave and the led status for both Master and Slave drives (before and after the fault...) ? :smileywink: Also, did you try to leave only the two drives on the network ? Please, if you want, try the demo example in the following technote: Aid 24563 Check also this technote, if your drive are not new...was a problem in past firmware... Aid 23957 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic The LED's(PORT;MOD;NET A) on the master drive are green. The slave LED's flashing RED & Green on the MOD & Net A. The P38 in the slave COMM is switching between running and faulted. Yes, these are the only nodes. The technote is where I got the example from. I have the firmware(V2.001) that allows 32bit Peer-Peer communcation. djr, my suggestion is to reset to default and restart... :smileysurprised: Try to remove the scanner from the network, leaving only a piece of Dnet cable between the two Powerflex. Follow and realize exactly what is in the example; only if and when you'll get this work, then try to change to your needs... - fuzzy logic Yes, that's what I did took a few steps back got things working on each HIM individually than added the Peer-to-Peer. No lockups now. How I found this lockup was we are trying to run from the HIM's when there is no scanner attached. The auto/manual function of the HIM is not available. So we are forced into detecting no scanner attached and switching the speed reference setpoint on the master from the DPI 5 to DPI 2. The real issue is there are no status bits available in the 20-COMM-D card or the drive that allow you to know is a scanner is communicating with the 20-COMM-D card. The Comm Flt Action or the Idle Flt Action only operated after a scanner is commicating with the 20-COMM-D card. Once you set these two parameters to Send Flt Cfg, then the parameters in the drive DPI Commloss Cfg and NetLoss DPI Cnfg don't function on coast stop. Any ideals on how to detect a scanner no present and switch the speed reference speed? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetics6000 Ultra3000 mixed drive application I have a Kinetics6000 BC01-BM01 AIM running a 1326AB-B420E and three BM01 drives running 1326AB-B420Hs. I had to up the output for the first axis (E servo) so I have installed a 3000 DSD-HV050-SE running a 1326AB-B515G. I am getting a code 20 Motor Encder State Error. I temporarily connected the 515G to the AIM and it ran no problem. The two main differences I see is the ground connection on the CN1(2090-U3BB2-DM44) that is not on the Kinetic I/O connector. The other difference is no Line Filter on the 3000. I need a solution to this problem that does not include the posibility that the 3000 drive is bad. I am in the Czech Republic and I know there is no spare. ### Assistant: flashbif, have a look to the following... seems to be some noise or feedback cable problem... Aid 41840 - Aid 23861 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I expected more from you fuzzy. I have reviewed both KB answers, GMC-rm001, and gmc-sg001.I have clipped the unbuffered feedback pins, bonded every motor in the system, every seperately mounted frame, and ground all shields. Don't forget I temporarily connected the 515G to the BC01-BM01 and it ran no problem. I also used the 32A line filter for the Kinetics for the Ultra 3000.Even though the motor worked on the K6 I found the shields on the servo motor cable not grounded and grounded that as well. Question1 - I can operate as long as I don't land the shield for the servo encoder at the drive side. Why? Question2 - Once the motor was operating (with out the encoder cable shield landed) I would get the same error when my VFD motors would run. Hence, all the bonds and shield grounding. I have never, in my life, heard of grounding a standard VFD motor shield at both ends. Why is the Ultra 3000 so susceptable to noise? flashbif, as you know, noise issues are one of the more difficult things to solve in a plant installation.As per my experience, but I think also you may be agree, there are not fixed rules to use to eliminate these problems ( I mean how to connect shield, ground etc.) but only useful guidelines (as you see there are big manuals on that ! ).Many many times (and I'm not talking about Rockwell products) I was on site to connect/disconnect shields from either one side or both sides to try to solve this hateful problem.Also it is globally recognized that PWM drives generate many noise (in the past I've seen beautiful sparks coming from cable shield when was trying to disconnect it from ground...) So, the above answers to your question 1 ( I understand it is not a technical answer; for that it would be necessary to do some tests with some instruments to see what's happen out there...) Question 2 is also difficult to me... of course Ultra drives are so different from K6k in hardware... maybe some experts (I mean somebody involved in its project or that have a deeper knowledge of its hardware internal structure) can reply better to you. From my side I may ask you to double check all what is suggested in installation manual about shield and ground of the drive. Installation Manual.http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/2098-in003_-en-p.pdfIntegration Manual.http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/2098-in005_-en-p.pdf Consider also what agt wrote in this post Forum like this are, I think, very useful to give either normal or medium complex solutions and, like phone support, sometimes cannot cross boundaries of distance from the site where problems are; when somebody like you has already done well all what he can, then is the moment where some expert people (I mean about the product you use) should come at your plant to help you. Believe me , I'm afraid to not have the possibility to help you more...I understand your feeling because it happens also to me in the past... I'm afraid also to take your time to read this long post.... without solution ! Good luck ! - fuzzy logic I appologize for being rude. I really was hopeing there was an easy answer. Like the U3K and K6K had different architectures and the grounding is different. Either way thanks for the long reply and in truth thanks for any reply at all. n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix End Cap Removed Under Power What exactly happens when an end cap of a CompactLogix is removed under power? I have a processor from a system that this was done to and it seems that the only thing wrong with it is that it will not hold a user program when the power is turned of and back on. There does not seem to be anything wrong with any of the other modules in the system. Does anyone know for sure what kind of damage may occur when an end cap is removed under power and if it is physical damage that would need repair of if it is a case where something gets locked up? Has anyone had experience with having an end cap removed under power? ### Assistant: In the following screenshot, taken from CompactLogix User Manual,an indication of what *can* happen... I think it is not possible to determine exactly the consequences of that removal, due to the different conditions the hardware could be... However, I've been in that situation; I've lost the progam,but hardware still working fine. :smileytongue: So, if you have no fault indication in RS5000 over your modules, test anyway them to be sure they're working correctly... after that I think no problems at all... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Flex 400 Flying Start I'm trying to enable Flying Start function on the PF400, 22CD208A103, Series A. Parameter A167 is enabled, but it isn't working. It doesn't show parameter A200 too. ### Assistant: Juliano, parameter A200 has been added starting from release 4.xx of drive firmware... may be your drive is older... Aid 54369 When you said it isn't working, what does it mean? May you better explain...it could be useful.:smileywink: - fuzzy logic Hello fuzzy logic, thanks for your attention! Parameter 167 is enabled, but when I start the drive whit motor's shaft running, it tries to ramp the motor and Bus Overvoltage happens. Hi Juliano,this overvoltage is occuring due to regeneration.So enable the bus regulation feature in the drive i.e par no. A187.Hope it helps.:smileywink: mmmhhh... unless Juliano has disabled it, Par. A187 is Enabled by default... :smileysurprised: Anyway, I saw that frn 2.02 and 4.01 both introduces some improvements to Flying Start... although I can't find similar issues around either in Rockwell Sites or in my experience, maybe your old drive version can't reach the performances you need with flying start... but it is just a supposition... :smileytongue: Unfortunately there is no way to upgrade the firmware by user, you need to call Rockwell Assistance to ask this... By the way, may you better describe the procedure for your flying start?I mean the time between you stop the drive and you restart it,ramps time in drive, Stop Mode setting, and all what you think could help me or others to suggest anything else... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error -255 on Powerflex 40 controlnet card HiI have some Powerflex 40 drives connected via controlnet to flexlogix processor. While tracing some problem i used GSV command to get fault code from drive. Among other faults there is fault -255 recorded a few times which i was not able to find in manuals. have any one encounterd this fault before? and waht can be possible solution? ### Assistant: I can't find any info about that error... May you please attach a .jpg screenshot of your GSV ? Do you know the status of the drive when this fault appear? Did you check inside the module properties Connection tab of the drive to see a detailed message for the error ? Sorry for the questions but it is just to have a more detailed scenerio... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks for the effort. i received following response from technical support. ---------------- 16#ff01 Connection Request Error: Path to module too long.The controller is attempting to set up a connection with the module and has received an error.§ Ensure that the path to this module is a valid length. ------------------- Although we are using standard Tee taps for drives we will still check in detail tomorrow. Drive continues to operate normally as this fault appears for very little time. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Monitor the status of a 1756-ENBT module? Can anyone tell me how I can monitor the status of a 1756-ENBT module from within the PLC? I am particularly looking at errors like link lost ### Assistant: You should use the GSV (Get System Variable) instruction to read the status of the ENBT. Here's a link to knowledgebase technote AID45747 which tells how to obtain the fault code from an ENBT module. To obtain the status of the module, look at technote AID46763. Ron Use a Msg Instruction pointing to that card. Your Msg Instruction should be set up as a Get Attribute Single Service Code: eInstance: 1Class: f6Attribute: 2 Destination should be a DINT data type. If Bit 0 = 1 in that DINT then link is okIf Bit 0 = 0 in that DINT then link is lossed. I'm looking to get the IP and MAC addresses of 2 ENBTs to be displayed on a PanelViewPlus. Looking at the user manual for the card, there is no information about GSVs or other methods to get this data out. This thread and the linked notes are all I have been able to find about the subject. Thanks much! Here the link to the new thread with the solution to the last question done by Tdanza. http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&thread.id=904 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView ME 4.0, Parameter Files, and Trending Is it possible to use Parameter files in a Trend object in ME? We have 6 parameter files. Each file has a tag alias ### Assistant: jtheis, I've tested it with success, using FactoryTalk View ME v5.00... Just a silly question...Did you start the Datalog in Startup settings? :smileysurprised: After that, as usual, I suggest to install all the latest patches to be sure many issues are solved... Aid 35779 I don't know if this is a problem related to ME v4.00...:smileytongue: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS LOGIX PROGRAMMING (TAGS) HI FELLOWS,I AM NEW FOR PROGRAMMING.I CREATE THE PROGRAME BASE TAG FOR START PUSH BUTTON NAME START_PB.BUT IT IS NOT WORKING WITH IN THAT PROGRAMME.I WANT TO ASK IS IT NECESSARY TO GIVE ALIAS FOR CONFIGRATION FOR EACH TAG WHICH USED FOR INPUT AND OUTPUTS?CAN ANY ONE SEND ME SOME PRACTICAL EXAMPLE HOW TO USED TAGS AND THEIR CONFIGRATION WITH DIGITAL I/O AND ANALOG I/O MODULES.IREAD THE START PROGRAMMING ARTICLE BUT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND.THANKING U I WILL REMAINHAMAD ### Assistant: Hamad, which is the meaning of it is not working ? Anyway, giving an Alias name to an I/O tag is not a must, it is just an option. However, if you want to give a particular name to your I/O tags, you need to use that functionality. So that, for example, your Start_PB will link to an hardware Input address. Take a look to the screenshots, there are some ideas about the I/O tags and Alias utilization. Remember that if you want your Routines to be processed, you have to use the JSR instruction to call them (for example the CHECK_IO routine in your screenshot). Be aware also that using the Emulator the hardware I/O cards are not available. You may also found an help on these configurations in the Common Procedures Manual for Logix. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic hithx for reply. in the figure the red circles showing something.i can not understand. I for input,O for output and what is C?i understand that base tag is used with in the programe or task if i used with corrosponding input and out put then alisis must be given or define the bit number.am i right? Hamad, C stays for Configuration... there are reported all the Bits and Words that you may set in the Configuration Mask inside Properties of module. You may use these tags within your program, if you want. When you want to use an I/O address in your program, you may use it declaring the default name given by RS5000 or you may define an Alias for it, that may be useful for you to better clarify what the input does. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic hiI AM THANKFUL TO U FOR HELP AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT ABOUT TAGS USING AND STILL I PRACTICE IT.BUT I WANT TO KNOW THAT Local:2:I.Data[0] THESE INPUTS IS NOT WORKING AS SHOWN IN PICTURE.CAN ANY ONE HELP ME ON TT4000.HOW TO DEVELOP THE APPLICATION (DIFFRENT SCREENS WITH MENUS) AND HOW TO CONNECT WITH CONTROLL LOGIX TO READ THE DATA AND ANUCIATION FOR ALARAMS AND SHUTDOWN AND GET READ THE DATA FROM HMI MEANS SELECTION AUTO/MANUAL BY CLICKING ON THE SWITCH AT HMI AND GET FEED BACK TO THE RS LOGIX TO ON AND OFF THE CORESPONDING BIT.THX Attached is the screenshot of the -SIM configuration in RS5000... please double check it...from my side is all working fine ! Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic hisee attached image and what is wrong in configrationthx n"}
{"text": "### Human: Read MAC and IP address from 1756-ENBT to CLX for display on PanelView Plus ? I'm looking to get the IP and MAC addresses of 2 ENBTs to be displayed on a PanelViewPlus. Looking at the user manual for the card, there is no information about GSVs or other methods to get this data out. Can this be done with GSVs or MSGs or ?? Thanks much! ### Assistant: Hi Tdanza,yes it can be done using the MSG instruction.I have got some tech notes on this but you should have tech connect acess.Tech ID G18770 has the solution.Hope it helps. Tdanza, as you need info for -ENBT module (not -ENET) you need to use some different values in the message than those indicated in the technote suggested by vikas. :smileywink: Aid 22990 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic That works, thanks! Is it also possible to get the MAC using this method? I was able to find the MAC address: MSG: CIP genericService: Get attribute single Class: F6Instance: 1Attribute: 3 unconnected msg, destination array of 6 SINTs, display as hex n"}
{"text": "### Human: SST Profibus Scanner Module LED I have a red SYS light on my Profibus Scanner Module SST PFB-CLX. The 4 character display also is COPN and not very bright. Any ideas? ### Assistant: Normally the red SYS indicates a fault condition in one or more slave nodes. For a complete Diagnostic and troubleshooting guide, dowload the User Manual from the following link: Reference Guide COPN is a normal indication that module is working fine. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Node Locked with Remote Desktop Availability Will Rockwell be implementing Remote Desktop capability with Node Locked activations? The reason I ask we recently purchased a copy of RS500 and RS5000 with node locked for our satellite manufacturing facility. We quickly found out that we required concurrent activation to run remote desktop (there are no onsite programmers).We were told to switch our version of RS500 to concurrent it would cost an extrat $900 cdn and for RS5000, we would have to upgrade from standard to full version for a cost of $6000 cdn. Fortunately we were able to switch to the Master disks, but going forward when we are FORCED to switch to Factory Activation, it appears it could cost us well over $29,000 (based on our current licenses and before the cdn dollar dropped). If this is the case...I guess we will be looking at alternatives. ### Assistant: Botts,sorry but you got to switch over to concurrent FTA for remote desktop programming.Hope it helps.:smileysad: An Alternative to using remote desktop works.We have the same problem where we have over 50 Node Locked activations that are not usable with Remote Desktop or terminal Services.I Recooment you try WinVNC or similar Remote Software. Regards,Paul n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View Studio Everytime I download my program to my Panelview Plus 700 I get an error code that says cannot open prooject due to version incompatability. I recently got a new computer and was loaded with factory talk view ME which is a later version of ME. I need help! ### Assistant: The version of ME used to create the file has to match the version of ME in your runtime (PV+). You have two options. Upgrade the firmware in the PV+. Downgrade the runtime file when you create it (Studio has a drop down where you can select the version of runtime to create when you create the runtime.) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Graphics for Devicenet, Controlnet and or others? Anyone have any ME graphics for Contrologix Devicenet, controlnet, ethernet. I am also needing compactlogix. I am also interested in RSView versions if possible. ### Assistant: Most images can be borrowed from the Integrated Architecture Builder (IAB) software, available to download on: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/en/e-tools/ You have to copy as screenshot, for example, in a graphic software (also MS Paint :smileysurprised: ), and save as .bmp or .jpg to be imported in FactoryTalk View. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help.I'm sure this will give me years of graphic plagiarism. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1336 REGEN Fuse P/N What's the A-B P/N or Catalog No. for 1336 REGEN fuse ( the original manufacturer's P/N: A70QS350-4, 350A/700VAC, 200KAIR//700VDC-100KAIR)? I can't find it from the 1336 spare parts list, but the customer is going to purchase it. ### Assistant: Based on your description, I think you have a 180A converter and you need the DC out bus fuse (see screenshot) Try to download the following document: LINK 1336R-F1-SP1A seems to be what you are searching for. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Analog module hi i want to use analog module with the rs emulator 5000 for learning purpose.i sucessfully use the digital i/o module.how can i achive?i want to use FGEN GRATER THAN AND OTHER TYPES OF FUNCTION BLOCKS FOR LEARNING PURPOSE.THANKS FOR HELP ### Assistant: There is no way to have analog module in Emulate 5000. The only I/O module is the digital SIM module. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ME Diagnostics page Is there a way to get the diagnostics page to displa more characters. At present it truncrates all the messages. I am using ME station on a 1920 x 1400 dispaly ### Assistant: Unfortunately there is no way to use Multi-line for Diagnostic, so only possibility is to use the smallest font you can, in order to try to visualize all the text, without truncation. - fuzzy logic Hi.Multi line is not my problem, as the diagnostic display is plenty wide enough. (1920 x 1200 screen) It seems to put about a 120 characters on the screen and stops.Regards Alan Case I've be complaining about the truncation of the Diagnostic messages since version 3.0, and I've never seen it get high enough on the bug list to get addressed. When the problem isn't an Ethernet communication problem, it does help to have the terminal send all of its diagnostic messages to your FTView diagnostic database on your Studio PC. You have to configure the Studio PC to acccept UDP connections from CE devices, and also you need to configure the terminal to send all of its diagnostic messages to your Studio machine's IP address. It is a bit disappointing at times. I think that ME on a PV+ is basically quite a good program, it just gets let down by a few minor and very easily fixable bugs or features that are not enabled.Each year at RSTechEd they have a session where they ask for feedback on ME and SE and from what I have seen they don't seem to take much notice as I have never seen any of the suggestions implemented. Regards Alan n"}
{"text": "### Human: help Hi There, i need some help.when i setup the 1784-ktx card in RSlinx .there is a window writen :unable to open the device because the process map object can not be created. then the setup shows error.could u tell me how to solve this problem .thanks !!:smileysad: ### Assistant: Can be related to operating system of computer used.. use ab knowbase search for  process map object  what is the AB knowbase ? where can i find it ? thank u very much . abboy, here the LINK to the Knowledgebase. Be aware that some of the articles need you to have issued a TechConnect contract with Rockwell to get accessed. Here some infos: Aid 50871 - TechConnect - fuzzy logic Thanks a lot .i have solved my question. i reinstalled a old version RSlinx .Then the 1784ktx driver can runnning correctly . n"}
{"text": "### Human: VersaView 700-1500 communication loss About every hour my 1500 touchscreen goes black and the indicator light at top turns orange. When I restart the panelview it just shows a communication loss message. The only way I can reestablish communication is to kill the power to the 700 for several minutes then power back up. Do you know what may be the cause of this? ### Assistant: Sounds like the unit is having a hardware crash. And since it crashes, the comms is loss, hence the message at reboot. Check for the normal hardware causes, like inconsistent power, too much heat (is it in a cabinet without good ventilation?), etc. If you don't see any obvious hardware causes, you'll probably need to return the unit for repair through your local distributor (if it's under a year old, it'll still be under warranty). JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compatibility with MS Windows XP SP 3 Can someone tell me if RSlogix 5 7.10.02 (CPR7), RSLogix 500 7.10.00 (CPR7) and RSLinx 2.50.00.20 (CPR7) are compatible with Microsoft's service pack 3. Thank you, Eric ### Assistant: As of today, Windows XP SP3 is not supported by any Rockwell Software products, except the offline use of RS5000 v17.... Aid 52120 Aid 42682Aid 54244 Aid 40786 - fuzzy logic For what it's worth, I'm using RSLogix Pro 500 7.30.00 (CPR 9) and RSLinx Classic 2.52.00.17 (CPR 9) without much trouble on Windows XP Pro SP3. The only issue that I've run across so far is the failure of the 1747-PIC device. Instead I use a 1747-UIC to connect to my SLC 500s. I hope that helps, Greg n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSview 32 auto logout after no activity on mouse or keyboard ? Is it possible to do on RSview 32 a auto logout after no activity on mouse or keyboard ? ### Assistant: Mendoza, Aid 23830 contains the solution to your needs. You may use the activex idledetect to run the Logout command after some minutes of inactivity. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Where to find RSView32 sample applications? I've heard of one that used to be called BizBike. Doesn't seem to be around here. Any other places folks might go for sample RSView32 apps, other than MrPLC? ### Assistant: I remember there was a demo CD (9398-VW32STCD) with Sampler and Tutorial, but I don't know if it is still available... try to ask your Rockwell Automation representative... it was for free... Otherwise, try to download demos from this link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/rockwellsoftware/downloads/ Choose as category Demos and take a look to BizMill for example... or New Sales Demo... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 700H F12 Overcurrent I have had a 700H for about a year now and started experiencing a F12 Fault on startup. When I had the reference at 30 Hz the drive would come up to speed and the current would be in the process of dropping off when the drive faults. The 400 HP motor is not in the best shape but I'm not convinced that there is not something going on with the drive. When I try to jog at 10 Hz, I see a quick spike in speed and current and then they both go to zero until the accel ramp time is done and then it will try to start up and eventually trip on F12. ### Assistant: Follow the link: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&thread.id=352 A user post an answer there, starting a new thread... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix 1400 analog input wiring How far can I run a 0-10V input before the wire length adversely affects signal? I normally use 4-20ma but the ML1400 has 4 onboard 0-10v that I would like to use.My application is controlling temperature and humidity in a winery so high precision is not critical. I have a total of 8 analog inputs and I would like to order all sensors with the same output type ( V or ma). Distance to sensors range from 10' to 200'. Can I convert the input on the ML1400 to read 4-20 like on the ML1100 (TechNote ### Assistant: dh, the distances that end-users can wire input and output devices to and from their respective modules is dependant on various factors. Aid 17494 contains useful informations about that. As the analog channels of MX 1100 and MX 1400 are quite similar ( 1400's has higher resolution) , you may use the solution you've mentioned. in Aid 16415. Of course the -IF4 module is more easy to use than the convertion solution, and give you also more flexibility. - fuzzy logic Thank you for the reply. Do you have a rule of thumb or feild advice..in the past I just stay away from V inputs unless they are very short runs. Aid 17494 gives the following formula but I do not know what value to assign I.That is the load of the 1400 input? Very small? Am I missing the obvious? Signal DegradationAs the length of run increases, voltage signal degradation due to line loss becomesa factor. To determine line loss voltage drop, the following formula can be used:V = VS - VR = VS - (I x R x 2L)/1000 where,V = voltage dropVS = sending voltageVR = receiving voltageI = line current ????R = cable resistance in ohms per 1000 ft. dh, as per the fact the formula is used to calculate the voltage drop through the cable, I indicates the current circulating in that line, due to the load connected ( in your case the analog channel of your controller). I don't have a rule for analog selection due to the various factors that affect it,as explained in the technote... anyway I'm use to select Analog Current when the device is around in a plant and I use the Analog Voltage when there is short run (machine, electrical board...). Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Yeah, I was having difficulty knowing how to estimate the ML1400 analog input load. For this project I have decided to add another input card and stay with 4-20ma because I know it will work. Another concern I had was the Overvoltage Protection for the analog input on the ML1400 is limited to 10.5V.Since I will be powering my sensor with 24VDC, I was concerned that a short in the field wiring could possibly damage the ML1400 by applying 24VDC to the input. I would hate to have to replace the processor just because a damaged field wire.The 1762-IF4 is protected to 30V so it should be more resistant to damage if there is a short in the field wiring. Thanks again for the help.dh n"}
{"text": "### Human: view a webpage in rsview [like current weather] I would like to have a button open a web page in rsview SE 4.0 cpr7. I know i could useappstart but i don't want the user to have access to the web for browsing. I've seensome posts here and other places but I've never used active x as they call for so if anyonehas done this i could use the help. Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: You may use the Activex integrated in IE, called WebBrowser. Aid 29851 and Aid 5959 have examples about it. Basically, after creating a new display , from Objects select ActiveX Control and draw it on the display; then create a button on that screen with following action: Invoke mydisplay.MicrosoftWebBrowser1.Navigate2(www.ab.com ) mydisplay is the display nameMicrosoftWebBrowser1 is the object nameNavigate2 is the method Running the application in the SE client, when you press the button, Rockwell web site will appear. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy. One other question can this be tested or do i have to try it from the running client? I apologize for the delay in answer...due to holiday :smileytongue: Yes, you can test it using Test Display in View Studio... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Control of Ultra 3000 I am going to use ultra 3000 index drive to control a movement on condition from the first spot to the second pot and back to the first spot.Back and forth repeatedly.I want to use preset position mode.I can set the second spot as preset postion 0 and the first spot as preset position 1.I also need to set drive input to active drive move to preset positon.From the manual,it said i have to set digial input 8 as preset select 0.When it is off ,drive controllded motor moves to preset posion 0.When it is on motor moves to preset posion 1.I donot want to control a movement between two places deponding on change of status (off /on)on only one input.I'd like to control a movement just when one input is on. When it is off ,nothing to do.Can I use preset posion 1 and 2,also preset select 1 and 2 on digital input 7 and 6?So I donot need to use preset posion 0 and preset select 0 for input 8.Thus,only when input 7 is on goes to preset posion 1 and only when input 6 is on goes to preset position 2 and back and forth.Can anybody help me with this?Thanks ### Assistant: This thread has been started also in the Motion Control Board (that is the right place :smileywink: ) Here the LINK to that thread, containing also a reply. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelbuilder 32 to RSView ME Is there a way that I can migrate panelbuilder 32 files to install on a Panelview Plus with ME studio? Thanks ### Assistant: Absolutely. The FactoryTalk View Studio software can import the PB32 files and convert them for use in ME. (NOTE: This process is not fool-proof. You should probably have a working knowledge of ME applications because you may need to tweak some objects and screens to look/behave the way you them.) JHutch Not Foolproof is right; I was able to get them into ME, but none of the tags followed, at least the screens were imported accurately. How about the same for Panelview 1400 and 1200 screens? I have several of these panelviews and am looking to upgrade to 1000 plus and 1500 plus panelviews.Thanks The PV1400e -> ME conversion works better than the PB32 -> ME conversion. It still isn't foolproof, but it works better. (Unless you want to use RIO ... then all the pain that comes from protocol comes with the conversion! :) ) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: PVc Emulator download is slooow All the downloads for the Component Level Panel view on the link below take forever to download. Download rate is 28kb/sec....takes hours. I've tried adjusting my firewall settings but does not help. Downloads from other websites perform just fine.It must be something in my antivirus or firewall.Anyone have any suggestions? http://www.ab.com/eoi/graphicterminals/downloads.html ### Assistant: dh, maybe the problem is related to congestion in the Rockwell server... I mean too many downloads active at a moment... or limited bandwidth available... :smileysurprised: I've tried 10 minutes ago, download speed was about 72KB/sec (that is actually the maximum speed from my location...) Also I'm trying right now, download speed is 59KB/sec ... :smileysad: I suggest to try again later... - fuzzy logic Thanks for looking into it. I'm gald to know it's not just me.I'll just do other work while it downloads. dh n"}
{"text": "### Human: DISPLAYS i am looking for a display that i can hang by the line or in an office that is just a counter display that i can use to show the total production count as the day goes on, one with a contact closure, triggered from a plc will work just fine, any ideas will be greatly appreciated, thank you ### Assistant: I guess you already know what I'm writing... :smileytongue: Rockwell Automation cannot give you such a display; there are Panelviews or Inviews but both with trigger realized via comms port...and also without the functionality to manage an internal counter as you are requesting.. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic On the other hand, even something as simple as one of our new PanelView Component displays will allow you to read a counter register from our processors, and they have built-in Ethernet capability. If you maintain a production count in a register somewhere in a processor, this can be a cheap and easy way to handle it. i am already putting the production numbers on a panelview, but that is close to the line, i was looking for a marqie, or a larger display to hang above the line so everyone can see the numbers, let me know, thank you Try the InView Message Displays from AB. You can get them in different sizes....some viewable from a couple hundred feet and in different colors. There are other message display mfgs such as http://www.foks-automation.com/Industrial-Message-Displays.htm and http://www.redlion.net/Products/DigitalandAnalog/ProductFamilies/LD.html to name a couple that isn't AB. I've used Vorne in the past with success. Worked will with contact driven displays for counters and downtime, with a web interface. www.vorne.com n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747-PIC I am unable to get the PIC driver to install. After configuring the PIC driver won't start and doesn't show in the device manager.I have done the following: I have done all that the tech notes say. Reinstalled com port, restarted the PC, reinstalled Linx 2.54, removed and installed 2.53, Turned off Linx Enterprise,and have come to the conclusion there is an issue with the OS, XP SP2. This computer D810 is identical to the other techs here and they all successfully have used the PIC. I know I have also used the PIC on this PC in the past, although its been a few months since I last used it. I talked to Rockwell Tech Support and their conclusion was that it is the APIC controller that is causing the trouble. I am going to try rolling back the drivers this weekend and look at the BIOS also, but if anyone else has an answer it would be greatly appreciated. Purchasing a UIC isn't an option. ### Assistant: Pete, I can say I have a D610 with WinXP sp2 and PIC driver works fine... Unfortunately, I've seen many many PIC driver issues until now, and I can say it was very difficult to solve them (sometimes there was no way to have it run :smileysad: ). As you've seen, there are plenty technotes about it... I would like to suggest some of them, which I've used in the past, sometimes with success. Aid 9839 - Aid 9772 - Aid 16442 - Aid 43852 .... unless you've already found and tested them... :smileytongue: Anyway, you've not mentioned error messages ... did you configure the PIC driver without errors? Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I managed to get it working this weekend. I manually changed the com port driver from serial to PIC using the update driver option. Still unsure of what caused it to fail. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Classic FT Activation Since RSLinx Classic 2.54 only is available new with FT Activation, and FT Activation has a 7 day grace period. What will RSLinx activate as during the Grace Period? Lite? Single Node? OEM? Gateway? Thx,Rob ### Assistant: Rob, In Grace Period the software will enable the features based on the serial number entered back during the install. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Okay - here's what I have done so far... Installed Version Serial # Used Result RSLinx Gateway 2.54 1006000000 - Gateway ID Runs as Gateway RSLinx Gateway 2.54 1612000000 - SNA Runs as Gateway RSLinx Lite 2.54 n/a Runs as Lite RSLinx SNA 2.54 5555555555 - WTF Runs as Gateway It appears that any “pay for” version fires up as Gateway w/o installed licensing. I have NOT received a notification that the software is in grace period. I fwd dated the PC 8 days and it does change to Lite. Automation Man,You are correct, any licensed version will run as Gateway for the grace period. They briefly tried with to tie it to the specified serial number, but too many people where never entering the correct serial number during the install, it was easier to just set it as Gateway and provide full functionality n"}
{"text": "### Human: Nothing to Recall When I was trying to move the license from drive C: to Master Disk A: by using of EvMove.exe or EvMoveW.exe, I got the following error massage: Nothing to Recall. Please advice. Also, what is the difference between EvMove.exe and EvMoveW.exe？ ### Assistant: Trank, the differances is explained here: Aid 35690 Basically it is related to Win OS for which it was realized. Nothing to Recall usually means that the activations on drive C: are not related on the Master Disk you want to use in A:(I mean for example you want to move an RS5000 activation to a RS500 Master Disk) From Activation help: The destination disk is a Master Disk, and can only recall its own product keys and serial numbers. Make sure you are moving to the correct Master Disk. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the prompt reply, but the activations on drive C: should be related on the Master Disk I want to use in drive A: because the license on C: was moved from the Master Disk in A: before. I tried to move additional license from Master Disk in A: again, it could be moved successfully. But now I could not move the license back from C: to A:, please advise again. May you please post a screenshot where it is possible to see the EVmove window with the software you want to move back in the upper part and also what is in A: ? File should have .jpg extension :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I would not use EvMoveW.exe to move activations to a floppy disk.I experienced already lots of problems when using that utility with floppys.You rather stick to the original EvMove.exe utility. I have solved the problem by myself. Here are the answers: There are two ways to do this. One way is to move the license from drive C: to drive D:, and then move the license from drive D: to drive A:. This can be done successfully. Another way is to move the license from drive C: to drive D:, and then move it back to drive C:. Now the license can be moved from drive C: to drive A: directly. Strange uh? Very strange... :smileysurprised: Never seen in many years... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Here are the detailsThe nothing to Recall Message occurs when the internal evrsi serial number does not match the disk you are trying to move it too. For example you had a disk for RSView32 serial number 1203055555, the internal number might be 55555. However on your machine you had an activation with 55551 to transfer over. It would give the nothing to recall message. Different then no activation, just not a matching activation. Well over the years Rockwell did not care so much about that anymore. Most disks are produced with the same internal serial number also updated versions of the tools stopped caring too such as the EVMoveCF utility. So the problem is because the move version (probably on the disk itself) was old and still cared or maybe if you installed an older version of some software it might have put a version of the EVMove utility that cared. None-the-less that association was probably dropped when you moved the activation around from drive to drive. Which is one way to fix it I guess. Another which is much more practical these days is download the EVMoveCF utility from Technote 31319 and use a thumbdrive. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation problems with Logix 5000 and Factory Talk When I open either Factory talk or Logix 5000, sometimes the activation works and sometimes not. I have rang technical help and they have sent me new .lic files but the problem does not go away. They have subsequently sent more new files but the next time I open the software it fails. Sometimes when I boot-up, I am lucky and one activates but oviously we cannot be in a position where we cannot gaurentee being able to rectify or anylise a problem on the production line. Can anyone help !!! ### Assistant: CH, a few questions: which HOST ID are you using for your activations ?which Windows OS ?are your licence viewable in FactoryTalk Activation tool REHOST tab ( I mean also when they don't work) ? - fuzzy logic The Host Id is.............00155882DC41 for theFT View studio and Logix 5k. In the activation window both are the same ID apart from the dc is lower case in the 5 k. At the moment, the 5k is running ok and FT view not. In the activation window /current only logix 5k is there in the rehost tab they are both there, View has 1 total and 5k has n/a in the total column Os is XP Professional CH, go in the last tab of FactoryTalk Activation tool and manually Stop and Start the server using the button in lower part of the tab. Ok for the HOST ID, but which device is in your PC ? Ethernet card, NIC ? Let me know if then it works... - fuzzy logic Thanks for your time Fuzzy, by the way Have tried stop/start and the View still opens in demo mode and now Logix 5k won't open (no activations available) How do I check the device, in the Get Activations tab 'use host id' is selected and DISK_SERIAL_NUM=884885b See the screenshot... May you also Add a screenshot Attachment of your rehost and current activation tabs? - fuzzy logic Also, try to follow Aid 40746. It seems you have used HOST ID of a ethernet/network card... would be nice if you can rehost to the Disk Serial Number..., often network card are subjected to power management, disabled and other things that make them an unrealiable choice. Let me know... - fuzzy logic here is the screen dump CH, sorry but I was asking you a screenshot of Current and Rehost tabs... :smileywink: Anyway, in a previous post you wrote The Host Id is.............00155882DC41 for theFT View studio and Logix 5k. It seems a Network Card SN... plase try to rehost as explained in the Aid indicated in my previous post to the Disk Serial Number... it can be done via Internet Site. The basic is that you HAVE to see all your licences in Current Activation ( not only in the Rehost tab) to let your software work. FactoryTalkView uses Concurrent Activation, so you need the Activation Server installed and started. - fuzzy logic Here is the rehost and the current CH, please try the rehosting of both licences..help is in Aid 44620 After that, get again your activations using the Activation Wizard from inside Activation Tool --> Get Activation tab and host to the Disk SN.Reboot, check if the activation server is started, check if your licences are in the Current Activation tab and then let me know. - fuzzy logic You are using your NIC. If this is a laptop, you have multiple, from your screenshot which is why it's hit and miss. Please host to your Hard DriveUse the DISK_SERIAL_NUM entry.If you call support specifically say this, or follow the rehost technote provided above but make sure you use the DISK_SERIAL_NUM entry. n"}
{"text": "### Human: MASTER DISK NOT WORKING Ddear fellows:I HAVE A MASTER DISK.I INSTALL THE RSLOGIX5000 ON DESKTOP COMPUTER AND MOVE THE KEY FROM DRIVE A: TO C: SUCESSFULLY.I MOVE THE ACTIVATION KEY FROM HARD DRIVE TO MASTER DISK AGAIN AND MOVE SUCESSFULLY;BECAUSE SOME PROBLEMS ARE IN OPERATING SYSTEM.AFTER RESOLVE THE PROBLEMS I INSTALL AGAIN RSLOGIX 5000 AND WHEN I ACTIVATE THE DIALOG BOX SHOWS UR DISK IS NOT FORMATTED DO U WANT TO FORMAT IT NOWWHAT CAN I DO TO ACTIVATE THE SOFTWARE I ALSO TRY THE RESET UTILITY BUT NO INFORMATION DISPLAY FROM THE MASTER DISK WHICH IS IN DRIVE APLEASE HELP ME IT IS URGENT ### Assistant: If you can't use the Reset (Aid 36168) then you have to call in Tech Support giving them your Serial Number... they will send you a new disk... but I think it will be not a quick procedure... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Take also a look to the following technotes: Aid 44238Aid 52551Aid 45048 There it is explained how Grace Period may help you (until you'll get a new Master Disk), if you install an RS5000 software version that uses it... - fuzzy logic There is a problem where the WIndows operating system can damage the master disk format. It started with XP SP2, when they changed the FAT format. None the less, to prevent this in the future. Download the utility from 31319 and move the activations to a usb memory stick back and forther. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activate RSView 32 / activation server will not stay started Howdy, I got two license files on line using a different computor. Transfered licenses to correct computor and the FT activation server does not start in manual. Destination computor ethernet adaptor MAC used for license. I've been here before but can't seem to kick start my brain on the solution. ### Assistant: Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 35092 - some ideas on why the server cannot startAid 40746 - to check if your Host ID is correctly selected and active Double check also to have moved your .lic file to the correct location... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic 9 times out of 10 the server is not starting because you do not have a concurrent license all node locked licenses. If this is true you need to simply use the client. The other 1 time is a software firewall is blocking lmgrd.exe and flexsvr.exe n"}
{"text": "### Human: SE server backup error I'm trying to backup a project [SE 4.00 cpr7] with the backup utility. When I do so I get the following error Errors Occur when backup tag database I've checked that the service Rockwell HMI Backup Server exists in the service list it does and is running. I've backed up this project before and succeeded, only difference is that we have made a lotof screen and tag additions in the last few months SERVICE LOG INFO (1) HMI Server project - Rocky Ridge Brick Plant now running(2) An error occured when copying files, backup operation failed for C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRSView EnterpriseSEHMI ProjectsRocky Ridge Brick PlantRocky Ridge Brick Plant.sed Thanks in advance for any help on the matter. ### Assistant: Did you also check the following (Aid 54478) ? If the service exist and is not disabled then right-click on it and select Properties. Make sure the path to the executable is correct. If not then you will need to correct it by placing the files in the correct folder or by unregistering the service and registering again.To unregister the service open a command prompt and change to the folder that the Rockwell HMI Backup Server.exe is in. Enter the following command including the quotes, Rockwell HMI Backup Server.exe /unregserverTo register it as a service enter the following command including the quotes, Rockwell HMI Backup Server.exe /service - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView embedded varibles I have Embedded varibles in the information messages to let operator follow needed items. One of the varibles is a timer that is running. The varible shows in the information screen but does not change with the timer that is running. ### Assistant: This is a normal behavior... embedded variables in Information Messages and Alarm Messages, are shown using tag value at the moment of the trigger event and are not continuously updated. Only in Local Message you may have the embedded variable like you need. A workaround could be to use a Local Message and animate its visibility...I mean you may let it appear only when a variable change from 0 to 1 , for example.Only issue is that you have to manage that variable and also you have not the Ack already done as Information Messages have. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic One alternative we've used successfully is to use a multi-state indicator which is updated continuously and you can make it any size you want. You enter the text you want and can embed the variable. We use an integer in the ControlLogix processor and move a number into the register based on the status. The status number corresponds to a multi-state message that is displayed on the screen. A lot easier than dealing with message files and updating displays. n"}
{"text": "### Human: User Name in Alarm Log Viewer My client requires to log all device switching to manual mode by operator. There is a problem with logging of current logged in user name - in HMI Tag Alarm Summary Editor ### Assistant: Sorry, buggy browser. I start from beginning My client requires to log all device switching to manual mode by operator. For that I created HMI tags with alarms, which I log. There is a problem with logging of current logged in user name - in HMI Tag Alarm Summary Editor it shows NT AUTORITY in Operator field, which is useless. Rockwell TechSupport gave up on that, by the way, I checked. Then I decided to log user message when alarm is generated and show it in HMI Alarm Log Viewer, but I couldn't find a way to put user name in it. There is got to be a way of logging user name because it's logged in FactoryTalk Diagnostics Viewer. Any ideas? OK, another attempt to strike a conversation :) To put my question simple: Is there a way to log current user name along with alarms? Yes. It's just a string object tied to the function CurrentUserName(). Take a look at Tech ID 44150. Add a string to your graphic and set it for the CurrentUserName(). The system tag SystemUser won't work in RSView SE since it's for RSView32. Thank you for reply. That wasn't exactly what I need to do. I do show current user name using that feature. But the problem is - how to LOG it along with alarm messages? The customer wants to know WHO was logged in when an event happened. By the way, it's for FTView SE 5.0 This is a normal behavior... an alarm is not triggered by user, but by HMI server. Extracted from Aid 52918 : Alarms are logged regardless if a user is logged on or not. For example, an HMI server could be logging alarmings even if no one has logged onto that computer yet, since SE runs as a service. For this reason, alarms will always be marked as user NT AUTHORITY. There is no way to change this, since alarms are detected and logged by the HMI server, not the SE client. So, also in the HMI Tag Alarm Log Viewer, the User Name column is filled with NTAUTHORITY. By the way, if a logged user acknoledges alarms, its User Name is reported in the Log Viewer (the action is done by user in this case). See attachment... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Right, it starts to make sense now. If HMI Alarm Logger has no relation to SE user accounts, it will not have information about the current user. I tried to generate message for Logger using AlarmLogRemark whenever new user logs in, but I couldn't pass current user name to the message text. Function call AlarmLogRemark New user logged in: /TCurrUser (where CurrUser is an HMI tag of type string) doesn't pass tag value, only tag name.Has anyone managed to pass current user name to HMI Alarm Logger message, or to have it in HMI Alarms at all? If not, it looks like the end of the quest for me. Thanks everyone, fuzzy logic in particular. Use the following command in a User Login Macro: AlarmLogRemark yourtexthere Then, in HMI Tag Alarm Log Viewer, in the User Name column, will appear thename of the user just logged in. :smileyhappy: See screenshot.... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic OMG, I totally forgot about Login macro! I knocked on that door - I called AlarmLogRemark in Event triggered by VBA ThisApp_Login, but in that case User Name in LogViewer was FactoryTalkService.Thank you, fuzzy logic. The case is closed! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk tag description Running Factory Talk Release 5.00.00 (CPR9). Have access to online & offline tags but not their descriptions. It can be seen in the tag database a colunm for them but this does not populate. How do you get it to populate? ### Assistant: You need to enable descriptions for HMI tags by right clicking on the right window in the tag browser and choosing Show Descriptions. Anyway, only HMI tags allow for a tag description. If descriptions are required, use an HMI tag. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Use of @!=1 in parameter file in FT 5 ? Hi What is the exact meaning of @!=1 as first line in a parameter file I found that the use of comment in parameter files in FTView SE 5 is different than RS 3 The parameter file ! comment ### Assistant: As you've seen, version 3 has not this command; this is a change that appear starting from version 3.2 of SE. I've tried to change the first line to @!=0 (or as you, to remove it) and this will allow the inline comment. So, if you leave @!=1 as first line in your parameter file then you'll instruct the software to accept the ! character as a comment only if it is at the start of a new line. Really I don't know the why they have modified this, as there aren't docs about it. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Examine a string in a trend object I am logging a string variable to a database.I would like to examine the historical data using the trend object.When I place the ValueBar on the trend it reads 0. Is there anyway to do that????? Thanks, ### Assistant: I guess you're talking about View SE...which version ? Another question: are you using Real-time data server or Poll historical data inside Trend Properties - General tab? Also, are you sure your string contains always numbers...or maybe letters also ? - fuzzy logic I am using: - RSView SE Version 4 - Real-time data server - My string has both numbers & characters So, this is a normal behavior... only numbers are represented on a trend (also if they are inside a string tag...)If you have characters, then trend valuebar is 0, as it can't show you something different than numbers... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Is there a good way to show a string historically... The string data is in the dB -- but I need to display it graphically. Thanks, You could AppStart MS Excel with an embedded query in it (see tech note 29789). This would display the data in row/column format. If you are logging to a database that supports displaying data in a web page, you could embed a WebBrowser in an SE graphic and have it display the database's report. I know MS Access allows publishing data to a web page, so maybe that would work for you. Theoretically you could write VBA code that connects to an ODBC database, then populates a ListBox or some such object with the values from the database. I don't have any sample code for that, however. Good luck. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 700-CF Hazardous Location Certification Hi, I'm aware of 700-CF Control Relay having uL certification, however, is it carrying uL1604 hazardous location certificate or Class 1 Div 2 certification as well? Please kindly help, urgent. ### Assistant: No it isn't... neither of the two... :smileysad: Reference LINK - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700S postion controller with Stegmann encoders I have a pair of PF700S configured in a master-slave arrangement each with a Stegmann optional encoder. The slave drive has the position controller enabled where the master encoder is the setpoint and the slave encoder is the feedback. These absolute encoders have preset zeros and there is no way to change them by means of the drive. Unless both encoders are mechanically aligned, there will be an offset at the enabling of the position controller. When the drives are stopped both mechanical loads will be at the same position. This will cause unstable operation until these two drives zero out this error. Is there any approach I could use to zero out this error before enabling the position controller? Thus avoiding this unstable operation upon startup. ### Assistant: djr, Depending on your application this may be a non-issue, or a somewhat easy fix. Non-issue: The PF700S position regulator is, by default, not in absolute mode. (position regulator absolute mode is not necessarily the same as using an absolute position device). By default, when the drive is started or position regulator is enabled the position loop assumes where the feedback is, and where the reference is, is where it wants to be. From that point on the drive simply looks at changes in reference and feedback and acts accordingly. In other works, the drive by default zeros the position ref and feedback on start. Easy fix:If you are using Absolute mode (P740 b6 I believe) and you want to fix the offset simply calculate an offset that will negate the original offset and put it in P753 or P754 (Position Offset 1 and 2). Thanks for the response wgray, I switched the controller to absolute mode and adjusted the offset between the two encoders. Worked well. However, I wanted to display a calculation showing the actual offset in degrees between the two encoders. But I have encountered two problems:If I use the position control error for calculating that offset, it goes to zero. This hinds any indication of an alignment situation between the encoders when the drives are stopped.If I use the position reference(743) and feedback(762) for for calculating that offset, I encounter a error in my calculation when these two parameters roll over their values.I'm wondering how the position controller handles this position reference(743) and feedback(762) rollover ? DJR n"}
{"text": "### Human: Clearing a Micrologix 1100 fault. Is there a way to clear a fault in a ML 1100 without using a PC connected to the PLC? Thank you! ### Assistant: elrg, you want try to cycle power to it (old good method :smileytongue: ) but I think there are little possibilities to solve... if the error is still there, the controller will fault again :smileysad: First good info is to know the status of the fault led: if it isn't flashing, but solid red,then it is related to an hardware issue, and maybe impossible to clear that fault. Only hope is that the fault is caused by an accumulated value become too big, and that a startup routine will clear it at powerup. I think unfortunately that the best solution is to have somebody connected to the plc to see which is the error code, removing the cause of fault and restart it. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Indirect Adrees on Controllogix I wonder how the indirect Address in controllogix, as well as the PLC-5 we made N9: [N9: 70]. ### Assistant: ASF, with RSLogix5000 the solution is quite similar... Assume to create an Array, let say an array named MyTags, with 10 elements. Normally, the syntax to use it, for example in a move instruction is MyTags[0] where 0 inside square brackets is the number of the element you want to utilize. Now, you may use an Integer tags inside square brackets, for example MyTags[pointer], after creating the pointer tag as type DINT; then, the value of pointer tag will define the element to point to. In this example, the pointer tag should contain a value from 0 to 9; if you put for example a value of 11 in this tag, then the PLC will have a major fault (Type 04 Code 20). Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Ok ! Works !!!I was trying to index a DINT index : Year_2009 [datetime [0]], so it did not work, when I made a MOV of datetime [0] to a new TAG [Day_Now] and put: Year_2009 [day_now] t hen worked! fuzzy logic thanks for the clarification! ASF, in fact your previous issue is described in Aid 41647 :smileywink: The indirect address has to be a one dimensional tag. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk Concurrent Activation - Moving Multiple Product Keys Here are the issues I'm having with using FactoryTalk Activation, using the concurrent/server mode. I'll make up a story to get my point across: Lets say I need to go to a customer's site to work on a ControlLogix PLC and a PanelView. Before I leave the office, I need to decide which product keys I need to grab from the server. So I look through the list of 80+ keys...see attach1.jpg below. How do I know which licenses I'll need? For example, there appear to be 13 licenses that pertain to RSView, and about 5 for RSLogix 5k, but the description is so vague, it's hard to know what exactly they do without digging somewhere for more information. So, to avoid being stuck at the customer's site without having the required key, I decide to just grab the whole lot of them. Then I find out that I can only transfer 1 key at a time, and it takes about 20 seconds to transfer each key (by the time the screen refreshes and everything). So, if you do the math, that's about 30 minutes to move the keys to my computer. Then when I get back, I get to put them back on the server, and repeat the process for the next similar call. At least if I could just select all the keys and transfer them, it would reduce this aggravation. One other thing, related to the software install, the order of the discs is not the order in which the software needs to be installed. For example (I don't remember the details of the specific items), I was installing some items from disc 1, but one of the items (maybe RSView) required something else to be installed first (maybe FactoryTalk or RSView Enterprise???), and I found that to be on disc 4. There should be a grand menu system that prompts the user to insert the required discs, and install the software in the correct order. Ridiculous. RS needs to seriously revamp their install and licensing interfaces. Currently it is completely unacceptable in my opinion. ### Assistant: lendyck, take a look to Aid 48155, it contains a .pdf document (Rockwell Automation Toolkit Contents 2009) that may help to understand the software type by its Activation key code, so that you may select the exact licenses you need... Also Aid 55666 explains that you may borrow multiple activations at one time starting from v3.02 of the tool. This Video will show you how... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1200 L24BXBR powered by solar charged battery system I am trying to power a 24vdc Micrologix 1200 with a 24 vdc battery system. The batteries are charged by a Morningstar SunSaver PV Controller usings solar panel arrays.The MLX is wired to the Load output of the controller and the MLX 1200 does not power-up.Is it necessary to ground the battery system negative? ### Assistant: rwatson, it could be useful to know the exact model of your Morninstar Sunsaver Controller... Just to check if its characteristics are compatible with 24Vdc line input of MX1200. You may try to ground the negative terminal... Did you try to measure the Load Output Voltage when PLC is connected to it ? - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, the model is SunSaver SS-20L-24V so it is compatible.There is 24 vdc at the MLX 24vdc/neu inputs.The MLX does require some inrush to charge up the internal caps and I am not sureif the load output is limiting this current.Tomorrow I will check the wiring and I am considering moving the MLX directly to the battery side. Yes, I was asking the model to check its manual and see output infos...but it seems to not be too rich of informations.As you wrote, Inrush could be the issue, as the MX 1200 needs 15A for 30ms... Good idea to connect it to battery side. Good luck ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet IP Communications I am working with a Micro Logix 1400 and an Emmerson Epsolon EP Drive, and would appreciate any help setting up communications via Ethernet IP.The Epsolon Drive accepts the Ethernet IP, and I have 2 drives I need to work with. I believe the method is the Multihop MSG, but I am not sure.ThanksJoe ### Assistant: Joe, first of all just a note to clarify the MicroLogix 1100 and MicroLogix 1400 do not support implicit ethernet communications needed to control I/O over ethernet. These controllers do support messaging over this network though. So the only way to have it control a drive via Ethernet/IP is thru explicit messaging. Please be aware that controlling I/O with explicit messages is relatively complex compared to normal implicit I/O control, and has a number of limitations... Aid 52205 shows you an example on how to control PowerFlex AB drives via explicit messages.This is relatively simple due to the fact that inside those drives there are some words already prepared for this functionality. In your case you have to use a different type of message, CIP generic, but this is quite difficult if it isn't documented, because you have to know how the objects (Class, Instance, Attribute)are inside the Emerson Drives. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How can i print screen in black/white? My screen is background color black. The other object is any colors except black color. Is there any ways to print screen to printer in white background color and the other objects print to printer in black color. If it have some ways, please share to me your solution. ### Assistant: It is not clear to me if you want to print the display from development computer as documentation, or from run time. The second case has not many options... unless you may set your printer to invert colors by default and then print in black and white. If you want to print from development pc, then you may take a screenshot from every display (as explained in Aid 41233) and paste it to a drawing software (MS Paint can be enough), invert the colors and then print the result in black and white mode. Attached is a screenshot with an example of the three phases .... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I realize this is only half the answer, but if your goal is to avoid wasting ink by printing the black background, you could create a rectangle with a Color animation. By toggling a bit, you can change the background color from black to white for your printing operation. Obviously you could do the same with the other objects, but if there are a lot of objects, this could be difficult to do. And Fuzzy Logic is correct - some printers have options to invert the colors. That will depend on the printer that you have. I seem to recall doing that with an HP laser printer of some sort years ago. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Status Error in RSLinx In an RSView32 project I have replaced the Direct Driver communications for a PLC-5/03 with OPC Server communications for 2 stations whose response earlier had been very unreliable. This has speeded up the response and RSView32 application is working very well now without any problems, but in RSLinx WHO, the PLC-5 processor on DH+ now has a RED CROSS sign imposed on it. In the status I get the following Comm. error 00000005. I need help regarding why this message is displayed in RSLinx even though the communication is working fine. I even went online using RSLogix5.Thansk for any help --RS ### Assistant: RS, this error seems to be genereted by bad cable connection... maybe sometimes RSLinx can't get what it expects to receive...:smileywink: Take a look to the following technote: Aid 5158 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the answer fuzzy!But the red 'x' wasn't visible when using direct driver communications. It is visible only when using OPC. And communication is fine. Also i dont think we require to configure any node numbers, baud rates, etc in SCADA for OPC once we have got it configured in RSLinx. RS, maybe now that you use the RSlinx connection to get also datas for your SCADA, increasing the amount of traffic over the network, this problem became more frequent.(maybe you had also in the past, but rarely, so you've never seen it in RSwho... :smileytongue: )What is mentioned in the technote, about baud , node etc... means the DH+ settings in your devices and your PC... obviously you've nothing to change in SCADA... :smileywink:I think you should double check your cables and termination over the network... I think you could find some problems there... Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I am seeing the same type of problem. When I use the Direct driver, I have few (if any) comm problems, but if I request about 50 tags, with the OPC Driver, without any other polling going on my comm fails with a status err $5. Now, I know that my network (radio) is very slow, but I am getting very different results between the direct and OPC driver. -eb RS, one difference between using direct drivers and OPC is the default number of messages that can be sent at any one time to the controller. For direct drivers, the Channel Editor has a Messages field, which represents the maximum number of outstanding messages that will be sent to a controller at any one time. For OPC, the default limit is controlled by the Limit Maximum Packets property in the topic's Data Collection tab. The value here is 20. Try setting the Limit Maximum Packets to 3 and see if things improve. The other possibility is that you were taking advantage of Scan Classes to break up the load on the network. If this is the problem (and it rarely is), I don't see much you can do except try setting Limit Maximum Packets to 1 and possibly slowing down the overall update rate. n"}
{"text": "### Human: OPC read of an array Does anyone know how to read an array from CPX using OPC? I have programmed the syncread and can get the first value in the array but how do I get more values? I tried changing the L ### Assistant: wfk, take a look to the following technote: Aid 8171 Inside there is an example to use OPC in excel , with VBA. I've succesfully modified the file just to add the range of cells to see the value of the elements of the array. The syntax to use to read multiple elements is: [TopicName]ArrayName[Starting Element],Lxx where xx is the number of elements to read. I think you may use this also with VB, removing the excel cell reference and using what you need in your application. I've attached also a screenshot that shows the result. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic A couple of heads up. Yes the ,LXX should work since in DDE and OPC. But1. The maximum numbers hat you can put in the XX is related to the data type in the array. For Dint & Real types is 121, for Int is 243. Beyond the limits you will get error.2. The array is returned as V1,V2,V3, V4....... so you need to separate the data out in the client.3. As a side note - SyncRead is usually not the best way of doing reads - I would suggest Subscribe and is not then Async. Thanks but this still isn't what I was looking for. The Excel VB code does connect and does read a value but it only reads one item (the one referenced in the subscript of the array [x]) without regards to the value in xx (Lxx). Once the connection is made, how do you parse through the remaining values? For instance, if I connect to array[0],L5 how do I look at the values contained in array[1]...array[4]? In my test I've modified the VBA code of the example to write the value you're reading from array elements to a range of cells... Take a look to the attached screenshot... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000 and MPL-A1530U-Ej42aa I have the drive motor combination of the subject. I dont see the motor in the Ultraware list of available motors. Will the Ultra identify the motor? Must I enter a new parameter file to the Ultra? How do I do it? ### Assistant: hiro, you need to update your Ultraware motor database... Here a link to technotes that helps... Aid 38188 Aid 39505 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I also have this question.Now I get answer and it works.Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: 825-PD protection Relay I need some explation on the function of the terminals Y-(common),and Y12 (IN1) in the 825-PD protection relay. Do i need to use this terminal for a DOL connection?. ### Assistant: lukman, the function you may assign to that input, and to the other inputs also, are shown in the 825-PD User Manual, starting at page 5-34. Attached a screenshot of the table... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC-3 not working! Hi I have used the SMC-3 controller before a few times ok, but today I completed a control panel using 5 SMCs from 3A to 25A. None of these will run a motor, even though the red light stays on and no fault is shown. A voltmeter accross the output shows a constant pulsing of a sort of voltage, but not enough to start a motor. The test button procedure checks out ok. I have succesfully substituted a couple of them with know working SMCs and they run up fine. What are the chances of all 5 being faulty? All different sizes too. I can't think of anything that would stop them running up... ### Assistant: GRC, verify if the not working SMC-3 are series B... as explained in Aid 38225, they change a dip/switch function in it, that may prevent the motor to start :smileysurprised: Also check Aid 35399 Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy Logic, problem solved. Been using my old data sheet not realising the dip switches had been changed. Wish AB hadn't done that, made me look very silly! Cheers. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SE and scanner data How can I make scanner data always go to a string display or string input.Without having focus on the display. ### Assistant: You may cache your display using /ZA command (Cache Display and Always Updating)for example in a startup macro. From FactoryTalk View SE online Help: /ZA loads the specified graphic display into the cache and continually updates the graphic display, even when it is not visible. Then, when you will open the display, your value will be already up-to-date. See also Aid 46012 , Aid 45937 and attached screenshot, taken from View SE User Guide part 2, page 19-38. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I'm assuming that you mean a barcode scanner attached as a keyboard wedge through a USB or serial port on the client PC. If that is what you mean, I don't have a great answer. I jumped through a bunch of hoops in VBA to make sure the correct form had focus and that incoming keystrokes from the scanner were sent to the right control. Very cumbersome and ugly and doesn't always work as expected. Definitely no easy way to do this. Also, simply caching a graphic won't be enough - it would need to have focus in order for a wedge to insert the scanned text into the input field. If you can guarantee that your barcode entry screen is displayed and has the focus, it is simple for a barcode wedge to insert the data into any of input fields. This is by far the easiest method. Anything beyond that would require something beyond plain SE - perhaps some custom Visual Basic or Visual C++ code to intercept data entry and redirect via the SE object model into your tags. Technically possible, but not the easiest application to support. I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to scan directly into the serial port of your controller and bypass SE completely. Maybe some other users out there have done things similar to this? It is a USB barcode scanner connected to the client PC.I usually do connect the scanner to the PLC but it is to far away this time.What I have done is when the opperator wants to scan in a new job he has to touch a button that opens a popup with the 3 string fields that way there is focus.I also has to configure the scanner to send an Enter then Tab. The data has to be entered to get to the PLC and Tab moves focus to the next string input box. n"}
{"text": "### Human: controller to workstation hi fellowsi have no backup file of the ladder logic.i want to upload the file from controller for backup.what can i do when i click the upload button after go to on line. i save with the same name or not?guide methanks ### Assistant: You may do what you like... as the name of the .ACD file is just in your PC as reference for you to remember what this program is.The name of the controller in that file will remain as before, unless you change it also. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: up load controller file hi fellows;i need some tips regarding to upload the file from controller to my laptop.i have no exisisting project file.what is the proper procedure for create the backup copy of the rs logix 5000 controller file that is .ACD.MACHINE RUNNING WELL BUT WE HAVE NO BACKUP COPY OF THE PROJECT.I WANT TO UPLOAD IN MY LAPTOP FOR BACKUP.THANKING U ### Assistant: You may find some help in uploading inside Aid 50782. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk Studio Rel.5 CPR9 - ME Fail to connect to browse for OPC After loading a previously saved file the status window affirms Log on and activation then shows 2 error messages. (1.) Failed to load Data Server'RSHmi.TagServer' on machinelocalhost' (result=0x8004b005) (2.) Failed to connect to browse service for OPC server//$Local MOLD:MOLD(result=8004b005) I am able to make changes but not save them or download them to a terminal. ### Assistant: FoundryGeek wrote: I am able to make changes but not save them or download them to a terminal. Just another info... did you get an error when trying to save the application ? May you also post it ? Also, I guess you're using an OPC server....which one?Then, when the project is open, try to check if OPC is properly configured... Right-click on the data server and select Properties. From here, you supply the proper name of your OPC server. If that server is properly installed, you should be able to use the Browse button to select it. - fuzzy logic I did get an error message. Unable to save the project runtime file'C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRSView EnterpriseMERuntimeMOLD_40.mer'. The OPC server is RSlinx Enterprise and is configured for both Design and Runtime exactly the same as project that functions properly. This error is described in Aid 53001, but I'm not sure it is related to that problem... You want try to follow the procedure in Aid 35050, clearing the cache folder that may be corrupted. Also, I know many times the answer is the following... but many many times the solution is there ! Try to install latest patch rollup for your ViewME Studio. Patches Aid 47016 Let us know the result of these tests, when done. - fuzzy logic Aid 35050 did clear up the problem after I reestablished the shortcuts. It appears that there was a problem with the Tag reading. I will tackle the patches when I have more time available. Thank you n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to gain full torque from motor at low speed I have an inverter 1305-3HP which I scaled 0-10V = 0-50HZ for a 4 poles motor. It has been observed that the torque of motor at 1-3HZ is not sufficient to turn the load smoothly. Kindly help me which parameters should I adjust to compensate it and also that how I can program that drive for “Sensorless Vector control”. ### Assistant: Unfortunately, the 1305 is a Volts-per-Hertz drive, so it cannot be configured as Sensorless Vector. :smileywink: This is the why it isn't easy to get torque and stability to these low frequencies. Only way you may try to play with DC boost (par. 9) to add some DC voltage to the running drive at low frequencies.Take a look to the User Manual, pages 5-18 / 5-19. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic For optimal control and full torque at 1Hz or even at 0Hz you should really go with a Closed-Loop Vector system, by getting a drive with an encoder feedback option and a motor that has an encoder and is rated to run at 0 speed. I will agree Sensorless Vector could work in the application, but if you have to change the drive to that option, you should get one that could be upgraded or and option added to it to go to closed-loop control if needed. Thanks for information.I have scaled the drive as 0-10V = 0-50HZ. I set a value 3HZ in Min Frequency parameter as my requirement is that when drive enables and sp reference < 1V, the drive output 3HZ to motor (idle speed). By doing so, I atained the goal but the scale (0-10V = 0-50HZ) disturbed. So kindly help me what to do that scale must not disturbe and drive send output freq 3HZ when it enable if sp ref < 1V. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation Key / Security Methods What security options are available when it comes to protecting the keys? Ideally, i'm not concerned with those you want to 'use' the keys, but would like to maintain control of those who can 'borrow' them. Does Rockwell provide any documentation on this, or are there any users out there with ideas on how this could be done? Thanks ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 41573... it explains how to Include or Exclude Licenses from Being Borrowed See also Aid 35376... Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can you upgrade RSLinx Professional to RSLinx Gateway? I've got Linx Pro running on a SCADA server and want to use it as a gateway to allow development PCs access to devices on the Industrial Subnet. If RSLinx Gateway the only way to do this, and if so if this an available upgrade? ### Assistant: If the controllers are not on the same net as the development computers, then the only way is using Gateway. Upgrading from Pro to Gateway is just a matter of licensing. You just need to buy a Gateway license for RSLinx Classic and it will automatically open the features when you activate the software with this license. Hope this helps. I know in the past there was a cat. # for an upgrade from RSLinx Pro to RSLinx Gateway... 9355-WABGWEU3 You may want to try to ask your Rockwell representative if it is still valid...in my Country it is orderable :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inconsistant output I have a machine with a slc 5/03.It is using the 1746-OX8 relay output module. The problem is that the output doesn't always turn off when it is told to. I believe the problem lies in the code and not the card, but I don't want to buy a card for nothing. The manufacturer of the equipment is using a OSR to latch and unlatch the output. Is it possible that the scan time (avg. 1ms ) is too fast for the mechanical relay? The whole unlatch rung consists of only one n/o contact, the OSR and the unlatch coil. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks ### Assistant: Max signal delay time for that module is 10ms... that means if you unlatch it, it can take up to 10 ms to really goes off...If during that time, you latch it again in the program, the relay may never open its contacts... As a test, you might create a clock to command that output on/off every, lets say, 500 ms and see if it works fine. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: testing for an open display after an event in VBA Hello all, thank you in advance for your help. I am passing parameter files to a pop-up panel(display1), but using using the invoke object.caption method to update the headers and units as the calls are made. I then have the OPTION to call a second pop-up panel(display2) from it if they choose to AND they have security priviledges(visibility on a button calling the second display). I want the ability to call display1 that calls display2 (if selected OR security priviledges permit), then if I call display1 again with different references from a different click(), I want to close display2 first; if it is open. Using the LoadedDisplays method of Application as a test causes VBA to halt if display2 has not been loaded, instead of just evaluating false and continuing. The easy solution is to just issue an abort display2 command every time I make a call to display1 and live with the error if display2 wasn't selected during the session with display1. I prefer to do the test and keep the event logs as red-free as possible. I have attempted to do all of this from a single display using width commands of various types, but couldn't find a way to get access to the KeepScrollBarsVisible property in VBA to turn off the scroll bars. This would have been the optimal solution. If someone could help me with either the syntax for the loaded display test or the scroll bars, I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks again, ### Assistant: I've gotten in the habit of avoiding doing anything with LoadedDisplays if all I want to do is display a graphic. I've had success using ExecuteCommand Display MyGraphic. I can't tell you why your VBA is locking up, but maybe an alternate approach would avoid whatever problem you are seeing. Hope this helps. Try the following VBA code. I just typed this out manually without testing, so there maybe some syntax errors, but this logic should close Display2 without errors. Dim nCnt as integer, szDisplay2 as string, bFound as boolean szDisplay2 = display2 bFound = False nCnt = 1 do while nCnt <= Application.LoadedDisplays.Count and NOT bFound if application.loadeddisplays(nCnt).Name = szDisplay2 then Application.ExecuteCommand (Abort  & szDisplay2) bFound = True end if nCnt = nCnt + 1 loop n"}
{"text": "### Human: Image with Horizontal Position animation Is there a way to move an image with horizontal or vertical position? Or is there a way to convert a *.bmp to something that can have animation added to it? ### Assistant: MLE, unfortunately images only support visibility animation :smileysad: To obtain full animation you need to have groups of simple polygon objects, as the Library objects are.... (.wmf or .dxf files should help on that...) but you have to create them externally using other software, and then import them using the menu Objects - Import. Take a look also to Aid 36820; inside are best practices to use graphic objects, as per the fact that, depending on the complexity of the metafile or AutoCAD file, the converted image could consist of 500 or more drawing objects. This would lead to long display load times. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic If this is SE, try the following: 1. Open a graphic 2. From the menu, select Objects-> Import 3. Select your bitmap from the browser. 4. When prompted to convert to native objects, click Yes. This will result in a grouped object of native SE objects and as such can have animation applied to it. If this is ME, you would need to convert the bitmap to a Windows Metafile (*.WMF) first. Hope this helps. Really, I can't understand the why I've considered the request as an ME issue... :smileymad: Sometimes I should just read two times before answer...:smileytongue: :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 using CPS instruction to copy from DINT's to a User-defined Data Type Hello all, my question is: I want to use the CPS instruction to copy the values from a DINT array (which is the data from a DeviceNet scanner) to a UDT of the following type: Udt { BOOL1 BOOL2 .... u/i BOOL8 INT DINT[8]} I use: CPS (MyDintArray[0], MyUdtTag, 1) or the other way around: CPS (MyUdtTag, MyDintArray[0], 9) It works perfectly, right now. But my question is: How SAFE is it to use this instruction, as the help files warn that unexpected results may occur. Might array[9] be overwritten? Thanks, Jos. ### Assistant: Jos, using CPS instruction, you have to be aware of the following: The Source and Destination operands should be the same data type, or unexpected results may occur Using UDT as destination, if the Length is too big (that is if it is more than the total number of elements in the Destination array), the instruction writes past the end of the array into other members of the tag So, after you have double checked those things, your array elements 9 could not be overwritten (for sure the instruction is safe :smileywink: ). - fuzzy logic Perfect me = happy :smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView and Visual Basic Hi, Can anyone show me how to create a textbox object on an RSView display using visual basic and then assign a tag value to it again using visual basic? I'm sure this must be possible but I'm not familiar with VB. Thanks Dave Swalwell ### Assistant: It makes a difference, if you are talking about 'RS'View SE or RSView 32. Can you clarify? If you are talking RSView32, there is no way to create a textbox on the fly using VBA. Looking at the object model in SE, I don't see anything that allows me to create a new text box dynamically either, so I think it's the same answer. On the other hand, you can insert a Microsoft TextBox object at design time in both SE and RSV32. You can bind a tag by right-clicking the control, going to the Property Panel-> Connections tab and selecting your tab. You could also apply Visibility animation so that the text box appears to be created dynamically. Hope that helps n"}
{"text": "### Human: Filters FB's in Logix 5000 Are there any simple descriptions and examples of how to use the filter FB's in Logix 5000?The instruction help mentions parameters of pole pairs and radians and all sorts of formulae...that I cant make too much sense of. I have played with the parameters but cant seem to get a simple damping effect on an input signal that has lots of noise on it. I would guess that a LPF would be what I am looking for....to filter out the high frequency noise and let the slow changes through? ### Assistant: Really I'm not an expert on that...:smileysad: just I want suggest you a pair of interesting link about LPF,,,, Another discussion Forum :smileymad: Information about theory of Low Pass Filter with more detailed explanation of the therms that also the RS5000 instruction help uses. LINK I'm afraid if I'm suggesting something unuseful for you.... just trying :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compactlogix controller with embedded I/O specifications Can anyone direct me to a specification sheet for the 1769-L23E-QBFC1B. I am specifically looking for the specifications for the individual I/O. I know the count but what voltages, sourcing or sinking, max current etc. It seems odd but every other PLC manufacturer has spec sheets on its controllers plastered all over their websites. Why is it that AB can tell me how much memory, backplane current milliseconds per module scan and TCP/IP connections it can handle, but they can't seem to tell me what the max current draw on the output module is or the voltages or currents on the analogs. I will admit I haven't used a ton of AB but every time I do I pull my hair out trying get necessary information. ### Assistant: At the following link you may find what you're searching for. L23 Installation Instructions Basically, the AB docs are divided in : Selection GuideInstallation InstructionUser ManualReference ManualProgramming ManualQuick StartRelease Note ...and sometimes it is difficult to know where to find the informations needed. So, in the Selection Guide you may find a good explanation on how to select/compose your PLC/IO or other products (drives, software, etc)Installation Instruction usually contains wiring guidelines, installation hints, and specifications of the product.User Manual normally explains how to configure/program/troubleshoot your device.Reference Manual is the manual for the Instructions or Parameters explanation.Programming Manual contains the procedures to configure particular functionalities.Quick Start is more useful for experienced user to just refresh the procedure to get his device works.Release Notes contains particular informations of that version of the product. So, usually you may find in the Literature site, a complete set of docs for the devices...just sometimes are not all inside the same manual. Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: powerflex 700 hmi I have a powerflex 700 frame size 3 series b, 480 volt. We had a power blink and my drive him no longer displays anything. The lights are on and drive functions fine yet, but I curious if there is a fuse for it or if him is bad. I suspect the him is bad but hopefully there is a fuse somewhere I can not seem to locate. Any suggestions?? ### Assistant: The only thing I can suggest, unfortunately, is to change the HIM, as it is faulty. No fuse to check...:smileysad: Best check would be either to test the suspect faulty HIM on another drive, or test a wotking HIM on your PF700... Just to be sure that the fault is not inside drive board...:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Analog input and SCP I have a SLC542 processor in the slot 0, 1746-IA16 in slot 1, Analog 1746-IN4 in slot 2 and 1746-OW16 in slot 3. I'm making test before programming for the first time with an analog input. I use only the input 0 and 1, both are set for current. I use a NK Technologies AT1-420-24L-FT set at 0-20 amp. Inputs 2 and 3 are shortened. I use the SCP instruction: Input I:2.0, input min 6242, input max 31208, scaled min 0, scaled max 20, output N7:0. The red led is lit on the input card. I have an electrical circuit hooked and I can see that changing the current going through the current transducer shows as I see the reading changing under the input I:2.0, only the output N7:0 doesn't. I also made a few math instructions and there is no results. To make more test, I changed the jumper on the current transducer to a lower value (0 to 10A) and the input value changed, it went from about 7200 to 11100. When there is no current flowing throught the value falls always to about 3275 and not 0. Many times I've made some changes to the input min and max still without any results. From the factory I've uploaded a program from a complex machine to be able to make comparisons and check myself out. What am I doing wrong? Or have I forgot to do? Thank you. ### Assistant: Pulsar, if your input word changes its value but the output word of your SCP doesn't (N7:0), I can think about two probable situations:N7:0 is already used elsewhere in the program, maybe in a file instruction like FLL, COP or in a MOV... anyway cross reference could help on that (also try to use another integer :smileytongue: )You are using your SCP in a Ladder file other that LAD 2 and you have not *call* this file by JSR instruction in LAD 2I suggest to double check these things first. Also, be aware that input min and max should be taken from the table attached to this post , for example, for 4-20 mA input, you input min must be 3277 and input max 16384...:smileywink: check which range is used on the output of your NK converter... Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic Hello. Thank you for answering. I had tried the recommended values for 4 to 20 mA: 3277 to 16 384. I had tried others combinations to see if this was the mistake. I run a current of 3 amps with a double twist of wire so this makes a reading of 6 ams for the inducers. The range I selected is 0-20 amps. I should not go out of range. The N7:0 was only used for this input and N7:1 is for the other. What I had forgot was the JSR!!! So the subroutines were still sound asleep. The Jump to Subroutine U:3 and U:4 did the trick. Now I check as I do the test and the N7 varies as I change the current flowing through the inducers. Also the ADD N7:0 to N7:1 works as the destination N7:3. I cans also check it in the data file for the integer. Now I see 6 in each output of the SCP, in the math instruction I add the two 6 and get the correct sum of 12. I still don't understand the difference between the integer and the float. Thanks allot for the help. I'm just happy that one of the two situations I've imagined was the solution for you !:smileyhappy: Also, just to give a short explanation about your last doubt....basically the differance is that Floating Point numbers have the fractional part also so that you may represent your numbers using decimal point...Aid 7765 contains a good description about float format in SLC. So, like a calculator, your PLC gives you the possibility to use Integer numbers in math operations, and saving for example the result in a Floating Point, with decimal precision. Wikipedia has deeper description about Integer and Floating... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Fault types and codes There are major/minor fault types and codes in RSLogix 5000. However, the causes of these faults types and codes will be showed in the controller property diaglog, then what are these fault types and codes used for? Is there any controller that comes with LCD/LED and these fault types and codes can be displayed ? ### Assistant: Normally the Fault Type and Codes are used for diagnostic purpose, as you wrote, inside Controller Properties and also they can be retrieved by GSV instructions,for example to be used in a Fault Routine to trap particular faults and take needed actions...also after that you may use SSV instruction to reset these values and try to continue with the normal scan of the program.An example of this is inside Handling Faults Programming Manual Anyway, at the moment there aren't controllers with LCD with that functionality... :smileysad: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Moved Why the moved topics could not be found with the message shown below? An Unexpected Error has occurred. Return to my original page Where is the location (link) for controller section? ### Assistant: I'm reporting here an answer to a similar question, written by a moderator... There are some boards that require you to have a support contract with Rockwell to see them. If you already have a TechConnect support contract, you can put your authorization number directly into your profile and the boards will become immediately available. See this post in the Welcome section for more information. Basically, you cannot see the Programmable Controllers Board and also other Boards due to the fact you don't have a Support Contract number or you've not put it inside your account profile. - fuzzy logic On each of the moved link messages, you'll see the following: If you have trouble following the link, check to make sure your TechConnect authorization number is included in your profile. See the following technote for more information: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=50871 *** The link explains in greater detail what fuzzy just summarized. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: upload the project in w/station hi fellowsi have no project backup. but the machine running well.now i want to upload the project in my laptop for backup. what is the proper procedure for that?thanks ### Assistant: You may find some help in uploading inside Aid 50782. - fuzzy logic What product are you asking about? JHutch Hi Josh, the product is RSLogix 5000, upload from ControlLogix, as the previous similar request from this user... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can Ultra 100 series drive with DeviceNet be used without DeviceNet interface? After looking through the user manual, I'm unable to determine if an Ultra 100 series drive with the DeviceNet interface can be setup and operated like a standard 100 series drive without using the DeviceNet interface. Anyone know? Thanks! Jon ### Assistant: jdgoguen, if you leave the DeviceNet module of Ultra 100 unconnected, then your drive can be used and operate as a standard 100 series drive. Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: missing reference to array element Why downloading of the following instruction GSV(Program,MainProgram,MINORFAULTRECORD,MinorFaultInfo);will cause an error message:...missing reference to array element.?The data type of MinorFaultInfo was DINT[11] as instructed in the general instructions reference manual. Is it necessary to create a user-defined structure to access to the MinorFaultRecord attribute? Is it possible to access to the MinorFaultRecord attribute without creating of a user-defined structure? If it isn't, then what are the members needed for the user-defined structure? What is the content of MinorFaultRecord attribute and how can the MinorFaultRecord attribute fit into the user-defined structure? ### Assistant: Because it is an array, you must reference to the first element of the array in the GSV instruction,in this case MinorFaultInfo[0]It is not necessary to create a UDT. And I think MinorFaultInfo isn't a UDT, but just a regular tag with some dimension. Take a look at ID 19808 Hope this helps... Trank, the error is that you have to point out the first element of your array , that is MinorFaultInfo[0] It isn't necessary to create A UDT for this to work. All the reference and the informations of MinorFaultRecord contents are in RS5000 online help... See screenshot.... Anyway, The Minor Fault Record is an array of 11 elements, not a UDT... it is suggested that you create a UDT, to have the destination array subdivided in a more clear manner, with every element correctly described, and most important, to have Type and Code divided on two different elements of the UDT (if you leave them in a normal array, you will have them inside the same DINT ! and you need some manipulation using i.e. BTD to divide DINT in two INTs...) Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic I created a user-defined structure MinorFaultInfo with members as shown in the afollowing picture. However, the monitor tags display was empty. Why? You have to create a tag with MinorFaultInfo as Data Type.And the GSV instruction has to write in that tag. Be aware that only Instruction Minor Faults are logged in MinorFaultRecord... for example a math overflow caused from a move of a value that cannot fit inside destination.... See screenshot... :smileywink: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic As only Instruction Minor Faults are logged in MinorFaultRecord, the minor fault such as battery low can only be assessed by FAULTLOG object. Then what is the use for the fault code Type 10 Code 10? This comes with the needs to give to all faults a specific Type and Code to document it...Also, if a user gets minor fault and go to Minor Fault tab in Controller properties, then he may find some infos to use for example during a call to Support.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1394 series B amplifiers on Sercos Kinetix 1394C-SJT22-D System module When Configuring the Axis under the Properties Tab Drive/Motor The Amplifier Catalog Number of the module I am using is not available from the Pulldown menu. All Available Module are 1394C-XXXX, I am using older servo amplifiers (Series B) and My part ### Assistant: Just a question to clarify.... did you try to select as Amplifier the 1394C-xxxx instead of none ? - fuzzy logic Yes I did, and when I selected the 1394C version of the amplifier, the Sercos ring would not complete the power up phasing. Selecting None allows the system to complete that cycle and everthing seems to be working (early stages of system upgrade from GML to Sercos). I contacted RA tech Support and they suggest upgrading the firmware from it's current version of 1.069 to 1.87, thinking that this may clear this issue up. I will post the results once I have them. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix 6000 with Linear Motor Anyone had use Kinetix 6000 with Linear Motors? ### Assistant: Is there a particular issue you're taking on? The MP Linear Stages work well. They are based on the Anorad design and they have been successfully building linear stages for quite some time. Yes, they work great. Anorad, which is now part of Rockwell, makes linear motors which are already in the motor data base in Logix5000. Go tohttp://www.rockwellautomation.com/anorad/ for more information. Yes, have done Anorad Linear motors with Ultra 3000, K7000 and K6000 drives. One can buy stages (the assembly of linear motor, magnet plates, mechanical bearings etc.) as a package unit from Anorad or from a third party stage mfg. like Celerity Automation Inc who will put together a complete system. BUT Motion Analyzer 4.5 does not have the linear motor data or ability to size linear motor applications. So one has to submit move profiles and loads to Anorad for review etc. I understand that in planned future Rockwell will be adding linear motors/stages to future releases of Motion Analyzer. I know that this is not Linear motors, but Gudel (www.gudel.com) makes several modules that utilize servo motors with precision gearboxes to create linear motion with standard components. Plus, I work there. EP is a single axis module. we have several adaptors for may diffrent sizes of servos motors to mount to our gear boxes. -Paul n"}
{"text": "### Human: PostScan Prescan is an intermediate scan during the transition to Run mode. Postscan is a function of the controller where the logic within a program is examined before disabling the program in order to reset instructions and data. The question is when will the postscan be executed as compared with prescan? ### Assistant: Postscan mode only occurs for logic in an SFC Action when the Action becomes inactive and the SFC language is configured for Automatic Reset (which is not the default option for SFC). When an SFC Action becomes inactive, then the logic in the Action is executed one more time in Postscan mode. This mode is similar to Prescan in that most instructions simply execute as if they have a false condition. It is possible for an instruction to have different behavior during Postscan than it has during Prescan. So, if you for example call a ladder routine from inside a SFC, during postscan the output coil OTE in the ladder are turned off and non-retentive timers are reset...As a general rule, the postscan executes instruction as if all conditions are false Anyway, as some instructions don't follow this general rule, take a look to the description about every instruction postscan inside Logix Reference Manual - fuzzy logic Will postscan be executed during the transition from Run to program or test mode for Ladder Logic Diagram which is not a routine from inside a SFC? No, it is only related to SFC logic. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Any news on 2009 OEM Toolkit bug fix? Has anyone heard any recent news about RS's patch they are working on to fix the '09 toolkit bug that allows us to borrow activations but then doesn't allow us to open the software? We had planned on following the suggested concurrent activation server/client scheme, but each of our engineers needs full access to the activations at all times regardless if connected to the network or not, so floating activations won't work for us. If RS doesn't have this patch ready by next week (before the '08 activations expire) then plan B will be to install the server application on each of our laptops and download one activation each, then we'll have it all year. It's frustrating that they have this bug at the same time they are forcing FTA on us. ### Assistant: Are you referring to the Borrow All Bug or an individual application such as the RS500 serial number issue? Selecting all licenses by clicking on the first one in the list and then scroll down and select the last one on the list and click BORROW will all you to get one of each license. BORROW ALL has the bug that will not allow you to use the license. In case it is the issue with RS500 version 8.1 check out Aid #57802 for the solution. Hope this helps. I wasn't aware that it was limited to the Borrow All function. I called tech support yesterday and they told me that the bug has been resolved on their end, so it is ok to do the normal concurrent toolkit activation server/client scheme, and the client(s) can borrow the activations long-term and the software will open.I tried it, and was able to use the Borrow All function, then I removed my '08 activations from my hard drive and was able to open RSL500, RSL5000, RSLinx, FTView Studio with no problem. Hopefully I will still be able to open them all next Monday! Did you have to install a vew version of the Server or Client tools? I am running 3.02 and tech support said that it would be taken care of in the next release. We have been using the other technique for the last week or so. No, I asked that question and they told me to use the current 3.02 tools, which I did. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Vista Dongle Activation I’m trying to activate licenses using the dongles and it worked fine using windows XP and I’m trying to do the similar process on a computer running vista. The FactoryTalk Activation Tool will not recognize the dongle though. I have all of the necessary drive loaded…Any suggestions? ### Assistant: mboike, if your PC doesn't recognize the dongle , then you have to install the latest driver, you may find in Aid 32585 (there is also a link to Alladin driver site with newer drivers)If your dongle has been correctly installed on your PC (normally the red led over it is on when it is active) then maybe the problem is in FTA tool, so you have two ways: Copy the .lic file related to that dongle from XP Pc to the Vista Pc (procedure for use dongle on multiple computer in Aid 54553)Activate your product from Activation Support site - Get Activation (unless you've already activate it on another PC, as in that case the key isn't available on that site). Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for responding fuzzy logic, I have copied the .lic files to the folder the FactoryTalk Activation Tool is looking in and I downloaded and installed the latest driver off of Aladdins website. The dongle’s red light is on, but FTA Tool still won’t recognize it…is the problem that they just don’t work with the 64-bit Vista operating system??? mboike, maybe your product is a software with license type Concurrent, and need FTA server to be installed... ?! Please post again the software type you need to activate.... also, in the meanwhile you may check the last tab on FTA tool , if the server is installed , stop it and restart, then go to refresh the activation tab to see if it appears... - fuzzy logic I have FTA Server and FTA Client installed on the computer. I inserted the dongle and went to the settings tab and stopped and started the server then went and refreshed the current activations as well and no licenses come up. For some reason when I start RSLinx it comes up as licensed (doesn’t come up as RSLinx Lite), but the RSLogix (5, 500, 5000) do not. mboike, if the Activation Server is started and remains started, check in Rehost Activation tab in FTA tool< if nothing is shown, I may suggest you to install the latest FTA (v3.02) unless already done... Aid 35600 - fuzzy logic I do have FTA Server v3.02 installed and there are a bunch of activations that are shown there...when I go to the Get Activations tab and click on Use Host ID of a dongle and click scan it says that I don't have the corerct driver installed. But have the most up-to-date driver from Aladdins web page and I called Rockwell to verify that I do have the correct driver. Just another suggestion.... :smileysurprised: Try to take a look to the following.... Aid 35630 - Aid 37815 They explains how to setup DEP in Win OS.... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Do you know anything about the DEP settings? I am not sure what executable files I would turn DEP off for FTA Server to allow data through. Not sure if this would be that problem or not becuase windows is not terminating the program, but this seems to be the most promising option so far... Not too expert with Vista OS.... anyway: Start MenuRight Click on Computer - select PropertiesClick on Advanced system settingsClick Continue button for UAC prompt. Click on the Settings button under Performance sectionClick on the Data Execution Prevention tab Dot Turn on DEP for essential Windows programs and services only.Click OK to applyRestart the computer to apply changes. Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic No luck with this either, tryed to Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select and still the same problem. Then I selected a few of the executables files to turn off DEP for FTA Tool and still nothing. Has anybody got these dongles to work on the 64-bit windows vista ultimate operating system??? I honestly don't know about activations, but none of the products I'm familiar with are supported under 64-bit (many will run, but they aren't supported), so 64-bit could be the cause. I recommend trying the Live Chat for activations to talk with an Activations Support person (8-5 Eastern Time). http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/chat.php JHutch NOTE: The Live Chat *does* require a support contract authorization number in your profile. Just to leave a reference for other users interesting in, I'm posting the following: The FactoryTalk Activation Server (v3.02 is the last) is compatible with the following operating systems:Windows Vista and Windows Vista SP1, Business and Home versionsWindows 2003 Server SP2 and R2 SP2Windows XP SP2Windows 2000 SP4Windows 2008 ServerWindows XP SP3Also there is an useful technote on using FTA Server in Vista OS... Aid 50072 Following is a statement in last HASP (dongle) driver : Version 4.102.5.22 (January 2006) Enhancements Support for Windows Vista x86 and x64 operating systems. Take also a look to Aid 35600, there is a release note file that contains a table of the services that should be added to exception list of DEP settings; just double check it. Anyway, after that, the suggestion JHutch wrote is the best way to have useful informations. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I just checked with the Activations group and the official word is that 64-bit OS is not supported and they think it is probably the cause of failure. I even went so far as to check with my own personal activations guru and he said the same thing. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: micrologix 1500 expansion module not recognize Hi, We have a problem with a Micrologix 1500, we connected to it one expansión module and the expansión cable 1769-CRL3 (the other side of the cable are not connected), when we try to do a ReadIO in Rslogix500 appears the error message Could not read IO config for slot 1. We don't know which is the problem, we try with another micrologix base and we have the same problem. Anyone know which could be the problem? Can be the expansion cable? I'll appreciate your help. regards, Vicente ### Assistant: viraguen, I'm not sure to have correctly understood your hardware configuration... Anyway, the right configuration is: Micrologix 1500 base, your expansion modules, a 1769-ECR (bus terminator).The cable you mentioned is only used if you need a second I/O bank.However, you need always the -ECR after the last module. Take a look to the attached screenshot. - fuzzy logic Thanks...we found a 1769-ECR termination cap... if we put it in the first bank it run ok. But we have the power source of the second bank dead. If we put 2 modules in the first bank and 2 modules in the second bank, without the power source, and with the 1769-ECR ending the second bank we have the same message.Is the expansión cable damage? or the second bank need the power source without exceptions. My logic tell me that if i have 8 modules in the first bank i need the power sources in the second bank. But if I have 2 modules in the first bank i have enough power in the bus for the second bank.Maybe the cable does not transmit power to the second bank and my logic is bad..jeje bye... viraguen, each I/O bank needs its Power Supply, with no exceptions...:smileywink: Sometime the logic is not enough....:smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Camming 4 Real Axis & 2 Virtual Axis? I am using an L45 processor with two sercos cards and 7 axis total. 4 of these axis need to be cammed together, but not at the start of the process. I have put these 4 on the same sercos card. I am presently camming virtual 1 to axis 1 & axis 2. I then cam virtual 2 to axis 3 & axis 4. I then jog both virtuals separately. Later in the process, I cam virtual 1 to virtual 2 and then only jog virtual 1. All 6 move at that point. This seems to work ok, but I haven't run the machine much at this point. Is this the best way to do this?Does anyone know any problems that may crop up? ### Assistant: your only alternative is to cam axis 3 and axis 4 to virtual 1 vs. cam virtual 2 to virtual 1 in your second mode. Based on my experience (even though I haven't done what you are doing) it seems like what you have already done should work fine. I think the only thing...if you read some AB literature (it seems to be in the back of my mind I read somewhere) that you have a slight delay (probably un-noticable, except in extremely critical applications) where you are cascading these camming functions. I think this delay is equal to one trajectory calculation cycle.... maybe in mSec??? You'll have to do a little reading if you think it will matter in your application. Sorry I can't help more than that. You're absolutely correct. Since all motion commands are at the course update rate there will be a delay of the CUDR. Camming one virtual to another means you have a delay and that is compounded when you're camming all the real axes to the second virtual. Again it shouldn't matter but this does depend entirely upon your application and the response you require. Make sure you click on the Master Delay Compensation box as this helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: kinetix 6000 and external encoder Hello I have successfully started up my first Kinetix 6000 with external encoder. Machine works but there is one problem. External encoder is on the other side of the conveyor and if it is lifted up (material jam...) motor starts with motion. It looks like it’s trying to find correct position. It would be better if motor is disabled when position error is too high. What needs to be done? Thanks, Janko ### Assistant: Position error is an item that is watched for an axis. In the axis properties, on the Limits tab is the setting for the maximum Position Error Tolerance. This is set when the axis is auto tuned. Along with that, on the Fault Action tab, is the setting for what function will occur when this position error limit has been reached. Disable Drive is a choice for this item. You may want to check these settings. Also, you could do a GSV to watch the position error (has to be selected as one of the Real TIme Axis Information items on the Drive/Motor tab) and create your own actions when this value is larger then some other value. Hi Janko, You don't mention if the external encoder is being used as a master axis that you're gearing or camming to or if this is used in dual loop mode to close the position loop. As correctly pointed out the axis will trip when it reaches the FE limit but it depends upon your settings in the Fautl Action tab as to what it's going to do when it hits this limit. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Translation In Siemens STEP 5 or STEP 7 programming software, the method of representation for programming language such as Ladder Diagram, Instruction List and Function Block Diagram is translatable with each other by the software. Is RSLogix 5000 capable to translate Ladder Diagram, Structure Text and Function Block with each other similarly? ### Assistant: No, there isn't this possibility. The Languages in RS5000 are to be considered complementary each other, giving the possibility to use the best language to realize your needs... for example if you have a sequential machine, you will find that SFC is the right choice.Or, if you want to control some process, you will find special instruction in FBD... - fuzzy logic In case you are trying to evaluate one against the other I add this. Step 7 programming is mainly equivalent to Ladder Logic and they just have different ways of viewing the same logic. The Structured Text, Function Block (and SFCs) in RSLogix 5000 are quite different. You would have to look at PCS7 to see something similar in the Siemens world. It does not switch views between these programming languages either. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ASCII to EWEB I have a 3rd party device that I need to pull data from. The device will send out data every 10 seconds in ASCII format (I think) and I have no problem seeing it using hyper terminal. Here is what I see on hyper terminal; 07:01:50 01 25 2009 124.004 163.654 25.254 458.521 10.244 95.897 Is there a way to get it into a ControlLogix PLC? I used technote 32962 and set up the client and I have no problem connecting, it is just that I get a read error. Here is the read error; Error code 16 ### Assistant: Extended error 0036 ECONNRESET Connection reset by peer You may find error codes for EWEB Socket Interface in Aid 34290... Also a similar issue of yours in the following thread...in another forum: LINK Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic I use real time automations ASCII to ENET gateway. It is fairly cheap and VERY easy to set up. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix Drive Tripping on E07/E64 fault in MPL Series motor In one of our engineering project we have Kinetix 6000 drives on sercos with MPL series motors 1. Kinetix 6000 Drives2. MPL series Motors3. 2090-UXNFBMP-S15/S20/S30 Series CProblem Being Faced:-We are consistently facing motor feedback noise faults on some axis in the system with following characteristics : -- Some times the problem will get solved by replacing the feedback cable. Also note that the same cable if used in another location with the combination of K6 drive and MPL motor will work without any fault indication.- The Motors are not on movable parts. ### Assistant: Make sure that the motors and equipment is grounded. If you use custom motor cables somtimes the ground and sheilding is not connected at the motor end. This is very important. Both ends of the feedback cable must be gounded also. It may seem like a broken record but noise is 95% gounding. Not a common problem any longer. Though there were issues with Series A and B cables of certain date codes. First check out the full part number, locator code and date code of manufacture as there were some bad Series C cables. Contact Tech Support and they'll be able to point you in the right direction. Next, if you're using the low profile feedback connector ensure you've connected the shield to the case of the connector as this is the only conection to the drive. If uncertain you can actually strip a little plastic off the cable and attach the shield to the under side of the drive with a tie wrap to ensure proper bonding. Follow good bonding practices across your whole cabinet otherwise the differential voltage will cause you a problem. Are you getting the fault all the time or at certain points in the production cycle? Can the trips be related to unsurpressed contactors within the cabinet? Are filters fitted? If so where? Get them as close to the drive as possible and ensure good backplane connection too. There shouldn't be any issue with the motor end at all, though as a check unplug the connector and spray with electrical contact cleaner. The fact you're getting faults on numerous axes seems to indicate a source of noise is to blame rather than there being one particular problem with the kit. Are you near a welding machie or something that's creating arcs? I've had this problem once or twice before, it was noise. I solved it by fixing a ty-rap around the motor power cable where the screen goes through the sping clamp on top of the k6k drive. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Contract name I want to upgrade to factorytalk activation from muster disc. It needs contract name.Where do I get the name under which the software is licenced to? ### Assistant: Call in your local Rockwell Automation Technical Support, give them your software Serial Number and they will be able to define who is the person and the site linked to your license; also they can inform you if the software is currently in-support inside a TechConnect contract. At this LINK you may find the phone numbers you need. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MAX_BORROW_HOURS is set and enforce, but client still shows max borrow time from LIC file. I have set the MAX_BORROW_HOURS = 240 for activations, but the client program gives me the max borrow time of 9600 from the LIC file. A user has no idea what the max time is because an error is generated only saying they have entered a time too long. They are given the wrong information with which to work.. ### Assistant: It seems not possible to have the client see the correct value of maximum time for borrow....The error the user gets is explained in Aid 45984I've not test if something has changed in version 3.02 of FTA... you may try, unless already you have this release...The last FTA is available at the following link: https://licensing.software.rockwell.com/Default.aspxclick Downloads - fuzzy logic Fuzzy is correct, however in 3.02 the error message is more descriptive in it's explination. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can not return a borrowed activation During testing of a new activation server, I borrowed an activation and have been trying to return it to the server. I get a check path and is the server on message. Also I tried the troubleshooting tips from the help file. None of this has salved the problem. Where do I look now to resolve being able to return activations? ### Assistant: Take a look, unless already done, to the following technotes: Aid 36370Aid 35611 Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the suggestions. I tried those. Using th LMtools utility, I have been able to determine the problem is related to AutoCAD.I can see the the borrowed license for ACAD and RSLogix 5000. When I try to return the R5K activation it tries to send it to the ACAD server. The vendor information looks good. I don't understand why the return operation would not follow the pathinformation for the borrow. The flexsvr information is correct, just not used. Where is this configured? Setting informations are also available in the FTA Activation Tool help (FTActivationEN.chm) installed with the FTA Client and Server.) Use port@ as search keyword.... (see screenshot) Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic Correct when running multiple licensing servers you can specify them by using the port. The ports are to auto increment, however, if you want stronger control you can modify all your concurrent activation's for a specific server to specify the post you will notice a concurrent activation has a line Server This_host DISK_SERIAL_NUM=aaaabbbb or similiar, you can control the port by specifing Server This_host DISK_SERIAL_NUM=aaaabbbb 27001 where 27001 is the port you want to use. ALL THE CONCURRENT .LIC FILES MUST HAVE THIS SPECIFIED THE SAME OR THE SERVER WILL NOT START n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC Remote I/O Scanner Capabilities I am currently looking at replacing a couple (3) of existing Square D PLCs with one SLC processor. On my I/O configuration I am wanting to put 7 Remote I/O scanner modules in the main rack to. My question is it ok & practical to put 7 RIO scanners on a SLC processor? Scanners 1-6 with approximately 500 discrete I/O each (~ total of 3000) Scanner 7 with approximately 600 discrete I/O For a combined total of approximately 3600 discrete remote I/O And if so are ther any known pitfalls to watch out for. ### Assistant: It depends on how many other I/O modules you need to install inside Local chassis... maximum number of words of Input and Ouput in SLC is 256 each, that means 4096 I + 4096 O Every scanner -SN can have a maximum of 32 In + 32 out words assigned, then 256 max / 32 = 8 max -SN module in a system, leaving no other space for I/O. So, the answer is: yes, you may have 7 -SN module in your configuration, but you have to consider you have only 32 Input and 32 Output words left. Hope that helps...- fuzzy logic How does complementary addressing work on Remote I/O and would there be any benefit in minimizing rack requirements? Is each RIO cable drop/node considered as a logical rack? To a RIO adapter (*node*) you may assign more than one logical rack, depending by the addressing mode you'll use (and also by the adapter type you'll use). Complementary addressing could be useful to *save* addressing space, but it needs some considerations.I suggest to read the -SN User Manual to have an idea of its configuration and use. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Hour Meter Hi everyone, I am about to create an hourmeter, but I dont kow how to do it.What I want is to control time of work for any machine, I mean when de machine starts, start counting how many minutes, seconds and hours does it wotks until this machine stops, and then save this data, so I can keep increasing the counting when the machine has started and stoped again. That way I will be able to know how many hours does the machine work per month. Thank you for all. ### Assistant: First question is: Where do you want to realize it ? I mean PLC (which) SCADA (which).... Sorry but it is needed to try to reply... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I am using a PLC 1756-L63 What you may try is to *play* with GSV object named WallClockTime, that is the internal clock of your PLC.So, you may take the actual time when your machine start using a GSV, and then you have some words to use and manipulate like Hours, minutes, Seconds... Take a look to Aid 37953 that explains this object, and also theLogix Reference Manual in order to understand the GSV/SSV instructions. Also, take a look to Sample Code Rockwell Website; there are a pair of Add On Instructions that may helps... search them as indicated in the attached screenshot... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic We use the RTO instruction to keep track of running seconds. When it reaches 3600, we reset the timer and increment a register by 1, to indicate the number of hours. This way we have a running time meter for whatever event we wish to measure. Probably not a timer of great precision...but just fine for maintenance purposes. Where can I found more information about RTO instruction? The Logix instruction HELP file or the user reference manual Using a Retentive Timer is a good idea! :smileysurprised: It is a very easy method, simple to realize... and what wireguy wrote is true, sometimes a great precision isn't needed. Instead my suggestions are quite complicated...:smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Using an RTO instruction and either a CTU or ADD paired with it is pretty much a standard way of doing an hourmeter. Note that since you are using a ControlLogix product, the timer setting needs to be 3600000 since it is in milliseconds. (60 sec x 60 min x 1000 msec) In the ControlLogix use the TOT instruction to totalize hours runtime. Set the Tagname.IN value to 1.0 instead of connecting it to another tag or reference.Set the gain at 1.0 and set tagname.timebase to 2. This configures TOT to totalize time in units of hours. Use the tagname.EN bit to start/stop time totalizing. The TOT also tag contains some elements named .Target and .TargetDev1 and .TargetDev2. These can be useful for maintenance triggers when TOT is used as a time totalizer. Set Target to the time where you want to signal needed maintenance. .TargetDev1 and TargetDev2 can be set to give you advance warning that the maintenace time is approaching. .TargetFlag, .TargetDev1Flag, and .TargetDev2Flag are booleans that turn on when the totalized time reaches the specified value. After maintenance has been performed then instead of resetting, simply add the required time until the next maintenance is required to the .Target. This way you also have a total of how many hours or days the equipment has accumulated over its life and how many hours it has until its next scheduled maintenance. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RsView32 Excel DDE not working Win xp sp3 We Just upgraded from a win2k box running rsview 6.2 to a win xp box running 7.2.Everything is working fine except an excel spreadsheet that is reading tags from rsviewvia DDE. I set the two DDE services in xp(sp3) to automatic startup. When I open the excel sheetand update the links a starting netdde related services mesage appears and no datais updated. This worked with no issues on the old win 2k box. Excel is from Office 2000. ### Assistant: al210, my first doubt on it is that version 7.20 isn't tested with XP sp3... Also, with XP operating system there are problems using DDE,due to installation of MS KB841533. See also: Aid 32961Aid 37488 (Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) will not be properly supported in RSView32)Aid 49563 (DDE and NetDDE is not supported in RSView32 due to the Windows security changes from the MS hotfix KB841533)Aid 53997 - fuzzy logic Great.:smileysad: How else then can I read tags into excel? mmmhhh... one solution could be to use OPC instead... as suggested in above technotes... but I think it will complicate all the things..I've not found docs about its application with RSView32 (I know you may do it using RSLinxOPC, an example excel file with some VBA code in Aid 8171) :smileysad: A workaround could be to use RSLinx Classic instead, configuring a DDE topic in it and connecting it to the PLCs directly... if applicable... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic So Rslinx don't have the problems that Rsview has with net dde in Windows XP? These are all PLC tags that I'm tring to read. Is there any way to test rslinx net dde to excel without any plc connected. I would like to test this in the office first to make sure it works. RSLinx Classic works fine... I use DDE and Excel very often with no problems...just I've Windows XP sp2...unfortunately at this moment RSLinx Classic (2.54) isn't supported in XP sp3...:smileysad: You may want to test it anyway, but you may get unpredictable problems...:smileysad: In Aid 56260 there is all you need to revert it to sp2, if it is applicable to you... And, about the last question, you may test RSLinx Classic DDE server (not available in Lite version)only with a true PLC or with an emulator (I don't know the software you're using, remember that at the moment only RSLogix5000 v17 is supported on sp3...emulate5000 don't ). Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Day of Week Add-On instruction issue On a few occasions I have used the Day of Week add-on instruction that is included with v16 of RSLogix 5000 and it has seemed to work fine until a recently discovered anomaly. I started up a Compact Logix system in December and this instruction is part of my program. It worked as expected. However last week I started up a Control Logix project and noticed that although it was Monday, the Day of Week AOI was returning a 6 for Monday instead of 1 as expected. In other words it was 2 days behind with Sunday being 0, Monday being 1, etc. Here is the kicker, if I change the date in the controller to a day in December or any day after Feb. 28 the AOI gives me the correct day of week again. I don't know if someone at Rockwell programmed this instruction or if it was submitted by a 3rd party but if anyone here has used this instruction have you seen this issue or know of a fix for it? ### Assistant: rta53, I usually use the AOI taken from Aid 54858 (DayOfWeek). I can't find the issue you have... I've tested it using v16.03 and also v17 of RS5K, a ControlLogix CPU and also RSEmulate 5k. May you post the date that gives you wrong output, so that I can also test it ? Did you try to download a test program to your cpu with only this AOI in it ? Same issue ? - fuzzy logic Fuzzy logic, Thanks for your reply. When I discovered this issue I did search to see if there was an updated version of this AOI but I did not find one. The one that I am using I believe came from the Rockwell Sample Code download site and is dated 6/07 with a revision of 1.1. I did not try a test with just the AOI. It will be next week before I will be back at the customer's site. I will try the one that you referenced. Don't have a processor available at the moment to test with. I did try this AOI with the emulator and it works just fine. Returns the correct day of the week. Thanks! Great ! :smileyvery-happy: I'm just happy for that... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: AFC branch error The following SFC routine has an error: A3, BRANCH, Branch element loops back and is not part of the main logic. All logic in loop is unreachable. What is the problem? Please advise. ### Assistant: I can't reach your images... Anyway, this error is related to an incorrect usage of the branches.. I guess your logic starts with a single horizontal bar but ends with a double horizontal bar. That means the SFC starts as a selection branch, but ends as a simultaneous branch. This is not correct. The logic should end with a single horizontal bar. Take a look to the SFC Programming Manual, page 21 shows the selection branch; it has each path ends with a transition BEFORE the convergence. Page 22 shows the simultaneous branch, where each path has a step and then the convergence. After the convergence there is a transition. If you don't put the transition BEFORE the convergence, then the software uses the simultaneous branch, and you get that error. So, you have to put the transition BEFORE The convergence. Take a look to the attached screenshot, where the second part has the correct logic, instead of the upper part, where the error you've got is shown. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView1000 Hello. I have a used PanelView 1000. Before I make any changes to it, I tried to Upload the current application. The computer I'm using has RSLinX on it. I have a RS232 wire that I currently use on a SLC-5/04 (542) and I can communicate with the PLC via DF1 com port 1 and use RXLogix to make ladders on a test bench.. I'm now using the same wire to try to communicate with the PanelView. I've tried to setup a driver with RSLinX RS-232 DF1 dirvers, through com1, Device: SLC-CH0,Micro,PanelView. Nest I auto configure. I always get a failed to find baud and party. I have a Berkelin USB-RS-232 on the com port 4. LEDs on it blink as the software attempts communication. Same message. I also tried to connect using the Ethernet connection with a Linksys 10/100 Work group switch Model EZXS55w(is that a hub? Sorry for my english). I tried through PanelBuilder 32 with the Upload in the file menu. I tried almost all the possibilities. With Error 2261, 2416, 1022. Can I use the same wire to connect to the PV1000? If I hook the PV1000 to my SLC500/04 can I communicate via the Ethernet connection with RSLogiX? I'm stopping here to avoid having a too long message. Thanks to Fuzzy Logic for his help. ### Assistant: Pulsar, first of all the serial cable to communicate from Panelview to PC isn't the same as the one used to communicate with SLC via serial port...:smileysurprised: You need a 2711-NC13 cable, that is a straight cable (pin to pin) - pinout is in Aid 13488 Second: you talk about ethernet, so I guess you have a 2711-x10x20 panelview...the serial port in that panelview could be used for transfer or for printer, you have to be sure it is not set for printer in the Configuration Screen of the Panelview. See Panelview User Manual chapter 3... Third: sometimes the USB to RS-232 converter give some problems... if you've not a *true* serial port on your PC, you may want to use a 9300-USBS converter, that is tested, from Rockwell. Or you may connect to panelview via Ethernet, just be careful to assign a *valid* IP address to it in Configuration Screen; you may use a normal patch cable if you have an hub/switch... or a crossover cable if you connect directly. Last: the 5/04 has not an embedded Ethernet port, so the only possibility to connect the Panelview to it via Ethernet is to use a 1761-NET-ENI device connected to the serial port of SLC. There is a specific technote on this, Aid 21708, but you need a TechConnect contract to get it in the KB. Hope that helps...:smileywink: - fuzzy logic Woooff. That is a quick reply...again. Seems like fuzzy logic you are my only saver. Surely my questions and your replies will be helpful to others. About the SLC500/04 I'm well aware that there is a RS-232 and DH+ sockets. The SLC500/05 has the Ethernet socket. I have a complex oven that uses this CPU at the factory that goes nuts from time to time so I will ask questions about this in another topic. At least now I know I don't have the proper cable to connect my PC to my PanelView 1000 (2711-T10C15), that is reassuring. I have the touch screen so I touched the small square in the lower right corner when if booted up and got the the configuration menu. The printer is not set up, therefore I will be able to use the RS-232 to upload and download. Also the 2711-x10x20...I have the T10C15 (touch and color)...could this mean that it is a DH-485? I'm not sure about the use for the A and B connectors. A being white and B being black??? You brought something up when you explained that I could use a 1761 NET-ENI device to connect a SLC500/04 to the net. I have five ovens that uses NAIS PLC witch are quite limited (36 inputs and 36 outputs), I want to change to Allen Breadley's SLC500 with a 04 CPU and eventually have a set up so that all 6 ovens can be surveyed. There are other machines can that can be automated and watch. I should be here every once in a while. Actually, even though I a have head aches, I enjoy this. Finally, about the Tech Connect contract: What does that mean in plain English? I need to pay to obtain technical support? As soon as I get my cable done and hooked up I will make this topic as Solved. Thank you again fuzzy logic. Pulsar, your Panelview 2711-T10C15 is a Controlnet one... it has a RS232 Tranfer/printer port, and the Controlnet coaxial connector; also there is a RJ-45 port, but this isn't Ethernet !!! It is a Network Access Port (NAP) for Controlnet to connect your PC (for example using a PCMCIA Controlnet card and a proper cable) to get acces to all the network.So, in order to have that Panelview connected to a SLC-5/04 you need a Controlnet module inside your chassis...:smileysurprised:If you've not already that card in the chassis for other use, I've to advise that it is not so easy to realize...will be better to use another type of Panelview, maybe with a DH+ port :smileysad: Take a look to Panelview Standard User Manual page 207 to understand the Controlnet Connection and also Aid 16888, which contains an example. Last: about TechConnect... yes, you have to pay to have one year of full assistance with many services included, also for example the access to all the Tech Notes in the KB (very useful) or the complete view of the Forum boards, with many threads... and many other things...software upgrade, firmware upgrade, telephone support etc... for a complete explanation of TechConnect, follow this LINKand also Aid 50871. Hope that helps... :smileywink:- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 40 Dear sir,We have a Poweflex 40 Drive for 0.75Kw. CatNo. 22B-D2P3N104I want to display the RPM in Display.Please suggest how we will able to display RPM in VFD HIM. Kind Regards Shashi Bhushan Chauhan ### Assistant: You may use parameter d010 (Process Display) configuring first the Process Factor by parameter A099. Process Display will show the result of the following formula: Output Frequency x Process Factor Lets write an example... Assume you have a motor with 1300 RPM at 60Hz... then the Process Factor is 1300/60 = 21.66After you'll put that result in A099, you'll see the calculated RPM in d010. Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with Panelmate 1700 I have a problem with Panelmate 1700, that when i make power up to the Panelmate unit, after 4s the unit transfer to the Recovery Mode.I had read the User manual, and it says that there is a problem with firmware, and you must redownload it again, BUT HOW ??? because i can't access the serial mode to download the firmware. Could you pls help me ? ### Assistant: Tiko, try to take a look to the following LINK (another forum), may help... Also, as the Panelmate is an Eaton Cutler-Hammer product, you may find some help in their Internet Site Eaton Technical Product Question formEatonCare Phone Menu :smileywink: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSnetworx Devicenet - GE 90-30 Slave configuration Has anyone ever configured a GEFanuc 90-30 Devicenet Slave Module on a 1747-SDN scanner? The problem is how to configure this module in theRockwell RSNetworx software. When the A-B programmer scans the system he seesthe 90-30 Slave Module. He has installed the latest eds file, and the RSNetworxshows the icon for a DNS201. However, when he goes to the add the module to thescanlist it does not appear as an available device. When you open up theproperties for the 90-30 slave there is only one tab – General. The otherdevices on the scanlist have tabs for Parameters, I/O Data, and EDS File. Onetab of the RSNetworx lists the DNS201 under ”Devices that are Not Slaves.” ### Assistant: mibob, I've never configured it...:smileysurprised:However, I may suggest you something... I hope to do it ! :smileytongue: At this LINK , I've downloaded the Manual for this module... Page A-2 shows the EDS file for the DNS201 module... I've copied it and pasted in Notepad, saving it as xxxxx.eds Then I've installed the EDS file using the tool inside RSNetworx. The device is listed together with the Communication adapters, I may insert it in a configuration and use it as a slave, configuring the bytes to exchange with the master...:smileysurprised: You may also do this as a test... I think you've some problem with your EDS file... try to download it at this LINK (search for keyword dns201) or call in GE Fanuc to have support on this. Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: odbc data source for model is unavailable Hi everyone. This is another problem that I have when I try to send data from the FactoryTalk View to my data base made with MySQL: odbc data source for model is unavailable I had try creating new tables and redirecting to them, but it only works once, what I mean is, when I stop the Data Loging and I try to restart it again, it causes the same problem. Thanks for your help. ### Assistant: Did you already check if the answer in Aid 30823 is your case ? - fuzzy logic Is it a local database or is it on a remote computer? Hi everyone: I get the same ODBC data source for model 'MODEL' is unavailable message when I start the datalogging. I have a MSSQL Server 2005 server running in the same FTView SE server computer. It worked fine when I first configured the system, but in the second start-up the message appeared. I checked the database engine and it's running OK. I even tested the DSN using MSExcel and it worked fine. I only have one DSN configured for access to the database.I have two Datalog models: one logging to in a Fileset format and the other one to the ODBC database. In the first run, the two models were running simultaneously. In the second run, only the ODBC model was asked to start appearing the error message described above. According to the Answer 30823, there must be only one Datalog Model accessing to an Access database, but this is not the case. Any help? n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk Activation Server User Management I have tried several times now to change the maximum time for which a license can be borrowed. But each time I borrow that specific license, the maximum time is the same time listed in the .LIC file (which the default is 9600 hours). Not only is the time listed not changed, it allows me to borrow the license longer than the changed maximum time. On the server computer, I open the file flexsvr.opt in Notebook. Which is located in C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivations. This is also the same path listed on the FTA Tool in the Settings Tab, on the server computer. The exact typing within the flexsvr.opt file, is the following: TIMEOUTALL 900 MAX_BORROW_HOURS RS5K_700.EXE 336 Once I save this file, I go back to FTA Tool and Refresh the Server. I have also Stopped and Started the Server. I double check my log file (RSsvr) to make sure this changed has been logged. In the log file it states: 17:16:07 (flexsvr) Max borrow interval for feature, RS5K_700.EXE, set to 336 hours But when I borrow this license from the client computer, I can borrow it past the changed maximum hours of 336. What am I missing? Also, if I want to set a maximum borrow time on ALL of my products within the Toolkit, do I have to list each individual product in the flexsvr.opt file? In the FLEXlm End Users Manual on page 49 it states, Using a package name in place of a feature name applies the option to all of the components in the package. If this holds true, then what is the package name for the Automation Toolkit? I have referenced KB Answer ID 35376, 45984 and 41438. Thank you for your assistance. ### Assistant: It took serveral attempts with Tech Support to resolve this.It has to do with the fact that you have multiple serial #'s for the same product Format isMAX_BORROW_HOURS RSLgx5P.EXE:VENDOR_STRING=xxxxxxxxxx 480 where the RSLgx5p.exe is the product ID, and the X's after the equal are the serial number, and the 480 is the number of hours. You need to duplicate this for every product, and every serial # you want to limit. If you have a full toolkit with 83 licenses, and 2 serial #'s you need to add 166 lines to your flexsvr.opt file Hope this helps Thank you for replying... I talked with Tech Support as well and they had mentioned the whole multiple serial # for the same product situation, but we only have 1 serial # for our toolkit and it's products. We have 5 installments for our toolkit and Hosted them in the following fashion: 3 to Dongle A, 1 to Dongle B, 1 to Dongle C. Which created separate 3 .LIC files. Dongle A is connected to our Server computer, for client computer use. Dongles B & C are loaners. Even though Dongles B & C are loaners, we had the .LIC files on the server computer in case they had to be used as a Borrowed or Floating situation. Apparently, the problem was having all .LIC files in the same location on the server computer. Even though all .LIC files contain the same serial #, the Server User Management was not working properly. For the time being, we have moved the .LIC files for Dongle B & C in a different directory, so that the Server User Management will work. Tech Support mentioned that should not of been the case and should of worked the way it originally was. We even tried to combine all three .LIC files into one, but this created errors. Tech Support was suppose to dive into this situation a bit further and contact me again. As far as entering in a Max Borrow time for every product within the toolkit, I was told to create a group which contains all of the products. Instead of 83 lines of MAX_BORROW, you would have one line and replace the product name with the group name that you created. When I tried this it did not work, so I ended up creating 83 lines. LOL Maybe someone else had better luck with this situation? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Lost Arena Activations Hi,My problem is about Arena software. We use Arena in our university computerlab. The problem is, we have recently updated all our computers (i mean formatthem all and re-install all necessary programs), but we have forgotten to move the activations of Arena. Now, when we try to install activations, there are not anyavailable activations.How can I solve this problem?Canan ### Assistant: Call in Rockwell Automation Telephone Support, give them your software serial number, they will have the possibility to reactivate your license. At this LINK you may find the phone numbers you need. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Devicenet redundancy on compactlogix? Can we plan devicenet redundancy on compactlogix processor? ### Assistant: Hi Vikas, technotes 47788 and 50690 explain how to realize a Backup system in CompactLogix thru Devicenet network. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView SE 4.0 Sendkeys Not Working Trying to create a popup keypad entry screen that people can see and use nd created a screen with a NumericInput and used the generic button object where I used the Sendkeys in the press action (same with release) to send to the input. I also tried text with the touch animation and I cannot get anything to showup in the input. Is there something that I am missing in this configuration to send to the input field, or do I need to use some other object to send to? ### Assistant: Automator, you NumericInput object must have focus in order SendKeys to work. You may put the focus to it selecting it with mouse click, or using simple VBA code on display.Then, you cannot use a button for SendKeys command, as per the fact it will bring the focus (taking it out from NumericInput ! )when you press it... :smileysurprised:You have to use text or object with touch animation (on release only) using the correct syntax - for example SendKeys 1 or Sendkeys {DOWN } About VBA code to automatically put the focus over your NumericInput: right click on display to bring the menu, select VBA code, then: Private Sub Display_AnimationStart () NumericInput1.SetFocus End Sub ...where NumericInput1 is the name of your object Using the right click over your NumericInput object, select Property Panel, then in Properties setting check if Expose to VBA is set to VBA control. Finally, enjoy your keypad ! :smileyvery-happy: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic I did get that far just a short time ago and changed everything over to text objexts, that did it. Now I am trying to create a keyboard input and need to figure out how to dfo the Caps Lock and Shift Keys. The following from help file.... SendKeys <keystring> Sends the specified keystrokes to the active window, whether a graphic display or another application. <keystring> is a list of keystrokes. The quotes must be included. The following syntax rules apply: use the curly brackets { } to enclose special keys such as PgUp, Enter or a function. For example: {F10} sends F10 use ^ to send a control key, for example type: ^{F3} to send Ctrl-F3 use + to send a shift key, for example type: +{F2} to send Shift-F2 use % to send an alt key, for example type: %{A} to send Alt A You can use F1 to F12 and the following (in upper and/or lower case letters) to represent the special keys on the keyboard: BackSpace, Bksp, Bs End Enter Escape, Esc Delete, Del Down, Up Home Insert Left, Right PgDn PgUp PrtSc Tab Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic What I am looking for is to do a Caps Lock and a Shift key to change cases of the letters or shift numbers. Looks like I may have to create a separate set for each case and run a routine to hide/show the set based on the Caps Lock status. One thing to try is to use VBA and a UCASE (I think this is the command to covert the string to Uppercase). That way you do not have to worry about it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: breakout board connection I am using a breakout board (CN1) part no.2090-U3CBBDM44 (with 24VDC to 5VDC converter).How to wire 24DC to converter,can I tie terminal X-(AUX_COM) and X+(24V_AUX_PWR) to 0V and 24VDC terminals the same with I/O power supply termianl IOCOM and IOPWR? Thanks ### Assistant: Derek, you may do that. Just be aware to ground the supply elsewhere in the system, as X- is isolated from chassis ground of the drive. - fuzzy logic THANKS. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Control of ultra 3000 index drive I am going to use ultra 3000 index drive to control a movement on condition from the first spot to the second pot and back to the first spot.Back and forth repeatedly.I want to use preset position mode.I can set the second spot as preset postion 0 and the first spot as preset position 1.I also need to set drive input to active drive move to preset positon.From the manual,it said i have to set digial input 8 as preset select 0.When it is off ,drive controllded motor moves to preset posion 0.When it is on motor moves to preset posion 1.I donot want to control a movement between two places deponding on change of status (off /on)on only one input.I'd like to control a movement just when one input is on. When it is off ,nothing to do.Can I use preset posion 1 and 2,also preset select 1 and 2 on digital input 7 and 6?So I donot need to use preset posion 0 and preset select 0 for input 8.Thus,only when input 7 is on goes to preset posion 1 and only when input 6 is on goes to preset position 2 and back and forth.Can anybody help me with this?Thanks ### Assistant: Derek, first some considerations taken from U3K manuals... Preset Selects 0 through 5 contribute a binary value when a digital input becomes active. The drive sums the binary values and uses the resulting integer to determine which Preset to activate. The drive uses only the Preset Select 0, 1 and 2 binary values (yielding values 0 – 7) when the drive’s Operation mode is set to Preset Position, Preset Velocity, Preset Current and Preset Follower (Gearing Ratio). The digital input Preset Select binary values are as follows: • Preset Select 0 = 1 if active, 0 if not. • Preset Select 1 = 2 if active, 0 if not. • Preset Select 2 = 4 if active, 0 if not. So, if you activate only the input configured as Preset Select 1, you run Preset 2 (the binary value of this select is 2).Again, if you activate only the input configured as Preset Select 2, you run Preset 4. Well, to obtain what you want, you have to activate the input configured as Preset Select 0 to start Preset 1 and only Preset Select 1 when you want to start Preset 2. :smileysurprised: See also the attached table... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy logic.That makes sense.Do I need to set everything (like position,valocity,accelaraion etc.) of preset 0 to 0 to disable preset 0? Because when both preset select 0 and preset select 1 are 0,the integer will be 0 then drive will start preset 0 and goes to unexpect place. I have not tested it, but I think this is not a real *disable* of the Preset 0, it is just a mode to have no move when this Preset is selected... I suggest to be sure that either one of the inputs you use is *on*, by your command logic... I mean when you enable your drive...so that you never go in an unused or unwanted Preset. - fuzzy logic I will do a test.Thanks those 2 inputs work.But I have got another question.Acturaly I is using 2098-DSD-020X drive.When motor move to preset position 2,I cannot set a output in 4 outputs of drive for a feedback posion siginal in preset position 2 .What I can get just Index 0 and Index 1 from the list.Can I add a function in preset position 2 by myself?Thanks Derek, unfortunately there isn't this possibility... you can't configure an output function different than those already there... Only you may use In Position output, that is generic and not related to a particular preset or index. It is explained in Aid 36740 Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy logic.I tried in position before.The problem was when drive got fault on its way,the in position output came on. I think the only way is to combine the In Position with another output, configured for exampleas Ready or Drive Enabled, to trap this particular condition where the drive faults. - fuzzy logic I used the indexing mode to get the signals from digital output of drive(at index 0 and at index 1) n"}
{"text": "### Human: Momentary pushbuttons getting stuck I'm experiencing frequent occurrences of momentary pushbuttons sticking 'on' on a PV600. The Knowledgebase has several articles about stuck pushbuttons but none of them apply in this case. It looks at though I'm going to have to add logic to the PLC program to ensure all of my buttons are cleared when their action is complete, so no point in ever using momentary pushbuttons then. Anyone got any ideas what's going on? Should we not be using momentary pushbuttons? Grrrr, some extreme frustration here. Firmware is the latest revision (5.00.something). Mike ### Assistant: I have no suggestions as to what is wrong but many experienced programmers always unlatch the bit in the PLC code as a safety. I have never seen a 100% reliable software pushbutton. This could be due to communication problems or something else but the most reliable way is to unlatch in the PLC. More work but safer for sure. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk Activation Log doesn't exist. I was testing our FactoryTalk Activation Server after installation. When I went to look at the log on the server, I found that the 'logs' folder didn't exist. Of course, neither did the RSSRV.log file.I created each and restart the server, hoping it would start. It hasn't. Any thoughts? ### Assistant: Never mind. The Forum and Help was correct on the path.Multiple documents have the path as:C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareFactoryTalk ActivationlogsRSSVR.logThis is not correct. The correct path is:C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogs I am also looking for the log file mentioned in the following post: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Activations&thread.id=338C:Program filesCommon FilesRockwell SoftwareFactoryTalk ActivationsLogsRSsvr.log but can't locate it. Either the log file or an application that tells me who has which activation out would be useful. If you have FTA server installed, the file should be elsewhere...:smileytongue: Did you try to search it in whole HD drive ? This is the file you need, it contains all the infos.... - fuzzy logic Looks like we found the file, in the corrected path above. I don't have direct access to the server, so I have to wait for IT. Also, Note:c:Documents and SettingsAll UsersShared DocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogsturns intoc:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogs n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000i E55 fault Ultra 3000i E55 fault.when power on/off ,it wii show E55 error code. ### Assistant: Two main possible reasons: Personality EEprom Data Corruption, due to noise - not field fixable, you must return for repair (prevention is possible, verify proper shielding and grounding) If you have a small unit (.5kw, 1kw and 2kw) problem could be related to the 5vdc Auxilary Control power voltage.If it is not a precise 5.1vdc and free from noise, it may generate E55, User Parameter Checksum. You may try (for testing purpose) to remove the external 5vdc supply voltage from pins 2 and 3 of CN-1, power the unit and see if E55 occurs again. If not, the 5 Vdc external power could be the problem. Using a CN-1 BreakOut Board 2090-U3CBB-DM44 that has a filter inside could solve the problem. If you have a sercos drive, use a 2090-U3CBB-DM12 instead. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic If motor power cable shields not connected at the drive,will it happen E55 (after power on/off). It may cause the first problem I've mentioned in my previous post. Take a look to the U3k Installation Manual to find out proper cables connection and grounding. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: import more graphics Is there a site that I can import more graphics for my panelview. The pump selection is not very helpful ### Assistant: Assume you are talking about Panelbuilder32 here.) I don't know of any libraries - that question comes up from time to time. You can make your own graphic. 1) File | Import/Export Graphics - save the default pump file to a bitmap. 2) In Paint (Start | Applications | Paint), edit the bitmap. You will probably want to Zoom to Large size, and edit it pixel by pixel. If you want it bigger/smaller, change the attributes (Image | Attributes) 3) SaveAs a new name. Keep it as a monochrome file if you want to be able to animate the colors. 4) Back in PanelBuilder, File | ImportExport Graphic | Import, and give it a new graphic name. You can now use the image like any of the canned ones. (if you are referring to Panelview Plus, let us know, and we can discuss the library files). I am using RS View ME and would like to import more libraries and images and use PDF files as troubleshooting aides. How do I get a PDF from my desk top to the RS View ME display or librairies? btytech, you need to create .bmp or .jpg files for the images you need to import in your ME project... for example making a screenshot of your image and paste into Paint or similar software.Then, before using your created images, two technotes that may help on graphics...Aid 25821Aid 36818 If you want to open a .pdf reader from ViewME runtime, on a PC or a PVPCE, you may want to use the Program Launcher ActiveX.Aid 20474 Hope this helps.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I too was looking for more PB32 graphics. Specifically a bmp of an AB 800T button and switch. I saw them once on someone elses screen and it looked just like an old button panel....anyone? PB32 installation disc contains a folder called BitmapLibrary, where you may find many objects, some of them are buttons like the one in the attached screenshot. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy..now if I could just find that disc. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSNetworx for DeviceNet [Read Only]? Just installed RSNetworx for DeviceNet and when I try to run it, it comes up as Read Only.Operating System is Windows XP Pro SP3.I have heard that there are issues with some software using SP3. Are there any alternatives other than uninstalling SP3? ### Assistant: Update on my previous message.Both RSNetWorx for DeviceNet and Ethernet give me the same message.If I try to use it, a pop up window says 'RSNetWorx could not connect to Factory Talk Directory. Contact Rockwell Automation Technical Support for more information.Another guy here is at SP2 and is getting the same message.We have one guy that is able to run it with no problems, and one other that is still at version 8. Could this be something in Factory Talk instead of RSNetworx? There are some issues on FactoryTalk security and RSNetworx... See Aid 35763 for CPR7 or Aid 47136 for CPR9 Anyway, XP SP3 is not supported at this moment...:smileysurprised: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Thank you for the feedback!When the checkbox for security came up, it was not selected. On all other attempts of uninstalling and reinstalling, I don't recall ever checking this box. It is now coming up properly, so I must have selected that at some point.Appreciate the assistance. Great ! And many thanks for your positive feedback. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 70 drive.Ready Under what conditions does the drivename.Ready bit from the drive go low?? I assume if the drive is powered up, and not faulted, the drivename.Ready bit will be high. Is that correct?? thanks, alan ### Assistant: Not exactly... :smileytongue: Here the conditions that makes drive ready bit on: the drive is powered, Enabled and no Start Inhibits exist. It is “ready” to run Attached a screenshot taken from PF7x Reference Manual ;it explain the Start Inhibit / Start Permissive conditions. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000 ladder PID Try as I might I cannot get any better control than virtually on off.It gets to setpoint and ramps output to zero. By then it has overun.Same on the way down. I have tried many combinations with the P & I. ### Assistant: As you know, PID setup isn't an easy matter...sometimes it requires external softwares to tune up well.Anyway, usually a good point to start is inside Micrologix Instruction Manual (no, I'm not crazy, I know you're asking about RS5000 PID... :smileytongue: ).At chapter 19 (page 19-23) you may find out a PID tuning procedure that usually give you a good starting point, and some stability to your control loop.Be aware that parameters scaling could be different, take it just as a guide to the steps to make. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SIL2 sample code Dear Sir, I am looking for SIL2_IO_Fault_tolerant sample code for logix5000, Rockwell published, but we can not find it,even don't now where to buy if required.We are in urgent need, please help.Thank you ### Assistant: Hi ,what actually you want?Whats the application you are talking about?can you brief me up?:smileyhappy: There are two main publications that explain the SIL2 system and Fault Tolerant system. Using ControlLogix in SIL2 Application SIL2 System Configuration using RS5K subroutines The second one, gives reference to another publication, 1756-AT012, but this isn't available at this moment... edit: 1756-AT012 is available for download In order to have the special routine developed by Rockwell Automation I suggest to contact your Rockwell representative, they will give you the program and the documentation needed.That is the only way to get the program, it is not available for download directly at the moment.The name of the application example should be SIL2_IO_Fault_Tolerant_V4.acd Here a LINK to Worldwide locator for Rockwell Automation offices... - fuzzy logic Thank you very much.But my RA representative in Singapore said they don't have it. Even I can not find the spec of those subroutines. I don't know why.Maybe I have to write all these code myself. Say them there is a Rockwell Internal Technote for that... Aid 55756, with the right contact name and phone numbers they have to call in to get this program... technical support members must have the rights to see that technote... :smileysurprised: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700 Fault Alram.. If PF700 shows fault or alarm, I couldn't know when that alarm happened. Because PF700 just shows total inverter running time with alarm message. So I need yy/mm/dd/hh/mm/ss like this type for reporting. Please change it by firm-ware upgrade or other method. ### Assistant: I agree with Sungjong. I have often experienced somes frustrations while troubleshooting because PowerFlex 700 doesn't timestamp the default. Adding this feature would be welcome. To All, I agree with everyone on the timestamping of VFD faults. The PowerFlex drives need an internal realtime clock that can be set from the HIM or over a comm. link (such as Ethernet, DeviceNet, ControlNet...) with the use of the Clock Update tool. I use this tool to set the clocks in all of my PLC's/PAC's (ControlLogix, PLC5...) and it works great. Thanks for bringing this up. Dlogger n"}
{"text": "### Human: Launching Internet Explorer from within RSView32 (?) I am wondering if this is possible. I would like to make an object in RSView link to Intenet Explorer to view IP cameras I have installed on our system. I already have the cameras viewable through an ActiveX control; but it seems to be causing memory leaks and locks up the HMI every time I view the cameras. I would like to just click a button on one of my displays and have IE open outside of RSView. Thank you.Mark ### Assistant: have you tried the AppStart command? Hey, if you have not figured this out yet post anew. I can tell you that it canwork well as RSVIew32 is an activeX container. We use the Microsoft IE activeX and pull it up with an Ivoke command. If I remember well it was: invoke <screenname> <MicrosoftWebBrowser1> navigate2 <string tag with the URL text> Let me know if it still fails, this is a well used facet of RSView32. ...pretty old thread... :smileytongue: Just for reference, I'm adding some infos to the correct answer done by JimmyBrowse Here some references in using the Activex integrated in IE, called WebBrowser. Aid 29851 and Aid 5959 have examples about it. Basically, after creating a new display , from Objects select ActiveX Control and draw it on the display; then create a button on that screen with following action: Invoke mydisplay.MicrosoftWebBrowser1.Navigate2(www.ab.com ) mydisplay is the display nameMicrosoftWebBrowser1 is the object nameNavigate2 is the method - fuzzy logic Thanks for all the help, guys (earlier and later)! n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView String Display I am taking a Analog word from logic and with the numbers of 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048 and want to take those numbers in RSView32 when they come in and put it to a word display on what it means. I used an if,then, else and I am able to get one display but don't know how to get the other words associated with the other numbers without making one string display for each number. ### Assistant: In the String Display expression you may test multiple times your variable, using nested If-Then-Else, giving a different description to every value... I mean: If TAG == 1 then TEXT 1 else if TAG == 2 then TEXT 2 else if TAG == 4 then TEXT 4...else TEXT 0 I've tested it using FactoryTalk View SE, I think the same is valid for RSView32... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic That did it!!! Thanks a ton! n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 40 can't get reverse to work single phase feed (208) paramater is at 0 ### Assistant: timpl, just some more infos needed... may you post how do you connect the drive inputs?do you want to reverse from keypad, digital I/O, comms ?!P036, start source, which value ?A051 - A052 - A053 - A054 are different than default ? Thanks...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS LINK CONFIGRATION HI FELLOWSWINDOWXP IS DAMAGE DUE TO SOME VIRSUS IN MY LAPTOP.I RESTORE THE IMAGE.AND RSLOGIX 5000,RSNETWORK AND RSLINK CLASSIC IN WORKING.I OPEN THE PROJECT IN RSLOGIX5000 AND ATTEMPT TO GO ONLINE THE POPUP WINDOW SHOW THAT UNABLE TO GO ONLINE RSLINK DRIVER CONFIGRATION NEEDED.I HAVE 1784 PCC COMMUNICATION CARD ALLEN BRADLEY.THE PREVIOUS WHEN THERE IS NO PROBLEM THE FOLLOWING DRIVER ARE SHOW IN CONFIGURED DRIVER PANE.AB_ETHIP-1 A-B ETHERNET RUNNINGAB_PCC-1 CONTROL NET MAC ID:30 LONELY[16]AB_VBP-1WHAT STEPS I DO TO RESOVLE THIS PROBLEM.ALSO IN THE TOPIC CONFIGRATION THERE IS NO TOPIC.PLEASE GUIDE METHANKFULL TO UHAMAD ### Assistant: Well, you have to configure your drivers again.Open RSLinx and go to Communications - Configure drivers... Next you choose the Eth/IP driver (this was the first in the previous configuration) and chooseadd driver.Next you must configure your 1788-PCC driver. Choose it from the list and click add driver.You can specify a node number by turning off Automatic MAC ID and specify a node number (it was 30 in your previous config)Be sure you installed the drivers first for the 1788-PCC card, otherwise it won't work.You also had a Virtual Backplane driver configured. You can add this in the same way as the previous ones. Hope this helps... At first, after you've connected your PCC to a Controlnet node, go in RSLinx, Communication, configure drivers, select 1784-PCC Add New button and configure it; then check in Configured Drivers to see it running. Verify using Communication, RSWho to see the Controlnet Card of your PLC. After that, go in RS5000, Communication, Who Active, select the PCC driver and browse until you reach your CPU... select it, press the button Select Project Path, then use the buttons to the right to do what you need... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix & FTviewSE HiI need to create reports from a ControlLogix PLC using FactoryTalk View SE (standalone).These reportss need to be saved as both Excel spreadsheets & notepad (.txt) files.Is this possible? Thanks in advance ### Assistant: TonySTS, I hope to have well understood your needs... :smileysurprised: If you need to log variables and then view them using excel, there are a couple of technote about it. Aid 29789Aid 33924 Otherwise let us know again, posting your request with some new details... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV600 communicate toControllogix I have a PV600 (2711-K6C8) which have a DH+ port, How I can ues this PV to communicate with a ControlLogix PLC (1756-L55)? ### Assistant: You need to have a 1756-DHRIO module inside Logix Chassis; then you may connect one of its port to the Panelview, creating a DH+ network. Panelview Standard User Manual chapter 12 shows how to connect Panelview to a DH+ Also, Aid 48706 may help... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thank you very much. i am going to make a order. Great ! I'm going to ask your distributor some commissions for this sale... :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTA Activation / Borrow Tracking Is it possible to see workstation specifics on where the 'borrowed' licenses have been transferred to? ### Assistant: You want try the following: On the Server Open Windows ExplorerGoto C:Program filesCommon FilesRockwell SoftwareFactoryTalk ActivationsLogsOpen Text file RSsvr.log, it will have details of all the Clients connected This file will also list Who has borrowed an Activation and for how long. edit: seems the above path isn't correct... if it is the case, try also those: C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersShared DocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogsC:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogs Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic I too would like a way to see who has borrowered and who has licenses checkout. In my case, I am allowed to get to the server and I can also see it in AssetCentre log files, but most of our users here are not able to get to the server. And looking through the AssetCentre log file takes time. I would love to see this on the next version of Activation. There is also a set of tools available called lmtools you can search the internet for, they provide additional server maintainance functionality The Log file is virtually useless: No date, just the time of dayDoesn't tell you if it was borrowed, or just an active concurrent sessionDoesn't tell you for how long it's being borrowed The Diagnostic viewer is better, but still doesn't organize the data in an manor which you can immediately tell who has taken out a license. It can be exported to a XML file and then analized by creating a program to do so, if you know how. It's located in the following folde: C:Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellFTDiagViewer.exe n"}
{"text": "### Human: PAC, PLC & SPC What if the difference among Programmable Automation Controllers, Programmable Logic Controllers and Safety Programmable Controllers? Couldn’t PLC achieve the functionality of PAC? Couldn’t PAC achieve the functionality of SPC? ### Assistant: You may find out a good explanation of the differances at this LINK. In brief: PAC Versus PLC Consider a PAC versus a PLC if your application requires:advanced control algorithmsextensive database manipulationHMI functionality in one platformintegrated custom control routinescomplex process simulationvery fast CPU processingmemory requirements that exceed PLC specificationsAnd about the last question: some SPC can handle also what a PAC does..this is the case of GuardLogix System. :smileyvery-happy: Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Are there any example showing that PLC could not achieve the functionality of PAC? Also, are there any example showing that PAC could not achieve the functionality of SPC? Trank, it is not a matter that may be clarified by examples... it is related to the systems themselves.. PAC is based on PLC structure, but may handle programs related to multiple automation disciplines all in one, with the same programming software... it has more power than PLC, and integrates all the functionality that an Automation plant needs. A *normal* PLC has process instruction, but it has not the power to solve complex and quick controls... it may have motion modules, but cannot manage a very high number of axis and interpolation as PAC does... PLC can control drives over a network, but it has not an integrated database that allows to program and control the drive directly as a normal I/O module. PLC and PAC are not enough when you talk about safety controls... a safety controller has particular hardware (and also particular software/instructions) used to put the machine/plant in a safe state, in a certified mode. Hope this clarify... :smileytongue:- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Supply In ControlLogix Chassis, there are 4 voltages regulated from power supply: 1.2V, 3.3V, 5V, and 24V. What are these voltages used for? ### Assistant: The two most used voltages coming from PS are 5V and 24V (I/O modules, processors...) Anyway, all these voltages are used by chassis and modules; you may find some indications in the Selection Guide. Search in the .pdf file for 1.2 and 3.3 as keywords... and you will see where they're used. :smileysurprised: Screenshot has an example... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix Chassis What is the difference between ControlLogix Chassis Series A and B? Are they interchangeable? What is the limitation if one is intended to do so? ### Assistant: Chassis series B has been redesigned to allow more current over the backplane. With these chassis you may use -PA/PB72 and -PA/PB75 power supplies, as well the redundant Power supplies -PA/PB75R.-PA/PB75 power supplies are NOT compatible with the series A chassis. :smileysad: Series A rack only support 5v @ 10 A Series B rack support 5v @ 13 A. - fuzzy logic In ControlLogix Chassis, there are 4 voltage regulated: 1.2V, 3.3V, 5V, and 24V. What are these voltages used for? Just for reference: answer is the new thread started by Trank... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=IndCtrl&thread.id=489 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Battery The Series B of the ControlLogix5561, ControlLogix5562, ControlLogix5563, and ControlLogix5564 store a copy of user’s project in its internal nonvolatile memory when the controller is power down. Then why these controllers need battery 1756-BA2 and CompactFlash card 1756-CF64?What is the difference between 1756-BA1 and 1756-BA2? ### Assistant: When they've developed the series B controllers, they also replace the use of -BA1 with new and more powerful -BA2 battery, to support also the increased memory space.-BA1 battery is used to maintain the controller memory during all the power off time, and thus its life is affected by how long the controller stays off.-BA2 battery is used only in the moment when the power is switched off, to let the project be transferred to the internal nonvolatile memory; after that it is *disconnected* and not used, thus its life is affected by how many times you cycle power to the controller. This is the why series B controllers still need a battery.CF card also is needed to backup the program in case the memory become corrupted...or for other use, like update controller firmware; remember that this card is an option, processor will work also without it. The following technote contains some useful infos about batteries... Aid 55551 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic 1756-L55M2x use 1756-BA1 battery, but these controllers have internal non-volatile memory ranging from 750KB~3.5MB. Is it true that 1756-BA1 battery is used only in the moment when the power is switched off, to let the project be transferred to the internal nonvolatile memory for 1756-L55M2x controller? 1756-L61~L63 series A Controllers also use 1756-BA1 battery, do they have internal nonvolatile memory and do they do the same work when power down as 1756-L55M2x? 1756-L55M2x controllers nonvolatile memory have to be compared to the external compact flash over the L6x controllers... it is the only way those controllers have to backup program...they don't have CF card slot... I mean this isn't to compare with the internal nonvolatile memory of -L6x/B controllers...-BA1 battery is NOT used in the way -BA2 does... over L55M2x controllers the transfer to nonvolatile memory is a manual operation done by the programmer thru RS5000. 1756-L63 series A controller has NOT an internal nonvolatile memory... they use -BA1 in the same way L55 controllers does. Differances is that L63 controllers have an external CF card slot as nonvolatile memory. Only in L6x/B controllers the battery circuit has been redesigned to work just to hold the controller up long enough to save what is currently in memory to the internal Flash. Hope this clarify... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic When the power of 1756-L55M2x controller is switched off before manual transfer of project to its internal nonvolatile memory, the project is lost. Is that right? Is BA2 battery the same output voltage as BA1? If it is, why BA1 battery can not be replaced by BA2? I'm trying to clarify this shortly... the project inside a -L55 controller will be *retained* in memory by the -BA1 battery when the power is switched off... if the battery end its life and there isn't a project saved in the nonvolatile memory, after power cycle, the program will be lost.Anyway, the manual transfer to the nonvolatile memory should be done during online connection to the processor...I mean the processor should be powered when you want to do that... The voltage is the same, the product (-BA2) is different and it is not compatible/tested to work inside a series A controller. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Tags on Panel Builder Hello, I'm at my first attempt in modifying an automated machine. I'm using a PanelView 1000 that was stored away. With the proper cable...I was able to upload the application. I checked the tags from the different sets of buttons. The tags are: SI0:9/1, SI0:9/2, SI0:9/3 ..Also SO0:0/6, SO0:0/7, etc. I understand that those are inputs and outputs. Is this the only way to for the two to exchange data? Cand I use B3? I mean to have a virtual button in the ladder that will cause the effect wanted. And the outputs in the ladder that will turn on a signal on the screen of the HMI? I need to create a file with the DATA FILES that would be: IS and SO? ### Assistant: Pulsar, as your Panelview is a Controlnet one, these address means that it was configured to use scheduled messages. There isn't the possibility to create these data types in RS500... these datas are transferred using M file, configured thru RSnetworx for Controlnet. Then you may move these datas to your B or N file in the project. To understand SI and SO addresses, see online help in PB32 under contents/Communications/ControlNet/Scheduled Messaging, then Tag Addressing. ie: SI0:0/0 or SO0:0 If you want to use your Panelview with a SLC-5/04 controller, you'll need to insert a 1747-SCNR module inside your chassis. You may find an example in Aid 16888, with programs also...Take a look to Panelview Standard User Manual page 207 to understand the Controlnet Connection. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Drives AOP v2.01 I received a pdf concerning RSLogix v17 that advertised the ability to create drives while online. I saw it well before v17 was released. I was surprised to learn that creating a drive while online wasn't possible once I upgraded to v17. Going back to look at the pdf I noticed that it did say that Drives AOP v2.01 was required. When will it be released? ### Assistant: Drives AOP v2.01 is targeted January 2009 and will be downloadable from the following links when available: http://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/webupdate/software.html http://support.rockwellautomation.com/controlflash/LogixProfiler.asp - fuzzy logic buckharsh , just to inform you that the 2.01 Drives AOP is now available at the following link: http://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/webupdate/software.html# Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy. I'll check it out. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1500 PLC Fault!!! I have installed a Micrologix 1500 PLC with 15 Input expansion card, when programmed I am getting a flashing fault light, I have checked the error and its reading The required expansion I/O terminator is missing Im not sure what this is supposed to be but there isnt anything I can see that is missing. Any help Please!!! ### Assistant: Micrologix 1500 base could support as many as 8 modules, then you'll need an expansion cable, a power supply and also a bus terminator 1769-ECR. Reference for this at the following link: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/sg/1761-sg001_-en-p.pdf Another link, see starting page 1-6: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1764-um001_-en-p.pdf Also, take a look to the attached screenshot. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC Flex Par 50 Are the thermistor inputs used to calculate the %MTU ? , and if so can Par 50 be adjusted to give a trip point ? ### Assistant: MTU is motor thermal usage and is a mathematical model that simulates the amount of heat generated in a motor due to current draw over time. It is based on an I^2T algorigthm (where I is current and T is time). Some of the factors used to calculation are what the full load current of the motor is set at, what the actual current draw of the motor is, and the amount of current used to start the motor. PTC value isn't used for that... it gives you an option to have an enhanced control of motor temperature. An alarm (pre-fault) indication level can be programmed to indicate the unit is getting close to faulting. The alarm modification information is displayed through the LCD, HIM, Communication (if applicable) and alarm contact closing. Parameter 50 is used to set an alarm status in the SMC-Flex based on the programmed level in it...If you want to be advised before %MTU reach 100% and the overload occurs, then you've to program a value at which you will have an alarm...default is 50%. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Online Edit Tool Bar disappeared While I was in online edit of Ladder Program under RSLogix 5000 v8.x, the Online Edit tool bar which includes Accept Pending Program Edit, Cancel Pending Program Edit and Finalize All Edits in program disappeared and the program could not be finalized. How to get the tool bar back? ### Assistant: That's strange... :smileysurprised: The Online Edit toolbar is always active when you're online, also if you're not doing any modification.Are you sure it is not in the background, under other displays ? I've found no way to close it ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Stopping the application from loading on a PVP 1000 I have a PVP 1000 that has an application on it without a way to get to the configuration screen. I would like to know if there is a way to get to the configuration screen and disable the application from loading? I tried to press the default and the reset but this did not help. ### Assistant: In order to get the Configuration screen, you may do the following : restarting your PVP, you will see a white box in the left down corner of the screen; press it if you have a touch terminal (or press F1 if you have a keybord PVP) until you'll get the Configuration screen. This is only valid from PVP firmware version 4.00.12 and above. Or you may use the utility as explained in the following technote: Aid 26037 After you'll get the config, you may change the Terminal Settings you need, for example the Startup Options Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View ME -- login using barcode scanner Hi All,We are using FT view on the production floor, with Operator and Technician logins. The problem is that the operators sometimes see the tech enter their login info, and then have the password for every machine in the plant. My thoughts are to use existing product barcode scanners to scan a barcode on a badge, and based on that log the user in as operator or tech. I have access to the scanned barcode via a PLC tag, but how can I programmatically log them into the FT VIEW without using the login button? Thanks,BJ ### Assistant: Login button does not allow connections to tags, so I don't think you could do it programmatically. You might be able to do this with a barcode wedge. The PV+ terminal would not know that the input is not coming from a keyboard. I've not done this myself, but should work theoretically. Check out the following link for some examples of these devices: http://www.barcodehq.com/wedge-readers.html Jonathan -Thanks for your comments. I think perhaps I will try unlocking some screens based on the value of the barcode tag. When the tech is done, he can logout with a button to clear the tag. Thanks,BJ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Local Messages with history Hello all and thanks in advance for any help. Ok, so we are going to have an expert system interface that will be taking actions on various systems. The customer would like the ability to see the status of those actions and a few lines of past actions taken. I have the local message display working, but there is no way to see the last few actions taken. I was thinking about using an activeX control with a read from a datalog for a single string tag, but how to display say, the last five entries is beyond my abilities......until someone here enlightens me of course. :smileyhappy: Any suggestions/help will be much appreciated. ### Assistant: Which HMI are we talking about here? SE? ME? Maybe RSView32? That will greatly impact the optians available to you. Duh. Sorry, FTView SE 5.0 n"}
{"text": "### Human: VersaView software and CLX status screen. I am doing a project with redundant CLX and 100+ E3Plus units and some I/O racks. Interfaces to Centum via OPC. I am OK with all of this. I just found out I need to program a 15 VersaView touchscreen w/1784-PCIC comm card. Should we be using RSView Machine Edition for programming the VersaView? What are my options here? I will have to build some annunciator screens, no problem with this. I also have to build a PLC system status screen. Will RSView have any pre-made PLC status graphics/blocks I can use at least as a starting point? If not are there any sample programs on the AB site that I could download?Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: wjc, may you please post the cat. # for your Versaview ? I guess you have a Versaview Industrial PC (as per the fact you wrote you'll use a -PCIC card), but just to be sure, because in the recent past Rockwell Automation sold some other products called VersaviewCE.For these last, you need FactoryTalk View Studio (formerly RSView Studio) for Machine Edition . If instead you have the PC, like any other PC you can utilize every HMI/SCADA software you want... .For sure you may create an application using FactoryTalk View Studio and use it on PC installing there a license for FactoryTalk View Machine Edition Runtime, with the number of displays you need. Take a look to this LINK to know more about FactoryTalk View... Inside FactoryTalk View Studio, there are some examples you may use to understand how it works...There aren't pre-made PLC status graphics there.... anyway you may import your .bmp or .jpg for that... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks,Allen Bradley 15 VersaView touchscreen w/1784-PCIC comm. card. Model number 6181P-15TPXPHJust recieved answer that we purchased RSViewME. Ok, great... :smileytongue: Just let me suggest to take a look to the following technote: Aid 44614 I see every time the more relevant problem when a programmer use FactoryTalk View for the first time is the communication configuration....in the technote there is an useful video that explains how to use it. Also, other quick start videos at this LINK Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Fanuc robot and CLX Can anyone give the generic ethernet module setup to communicate with a Fanuc robot? ### Assistant: Smoke, at first I can say that posting the robot type and code will help...:smileywink: After that, although some other users for sure know the right settings (for example jdavison - Thread LINK ) , I think the best way is to contact Fanuc Robotics to get the correct values. Or, having the EDS file, trying to extract what you need, following suggestions in Aid 42782 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 70 Hi all, Can we use the PF 70 with 4X enclosure outdoor in a shaded highly corrosive area? ### Assistant: Are you *talking* about IP66/NEMA 4x version of PF70 ? In that case, at the following links you may find some infos... http://www.ab.com/drives/powerflex/70/http://www.ab.com/drives/powerflex/70/70_nema.html Be aware that only the Flange mount version is suitable for outdoor use. If you're instead asking for a configured drive, this other link... http://www.ab.com/drives/powerflex/70/70_configured.html Last, if you're installing the drive in a custom enclosure, if it is NEMA 4x, for sure it is ok. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic Thank you.. yeah I was talking about the 4X version of PF70.If it can protects against high-pressure water spray, corrosion and circulating dust and it is designed to be mounted directly in harsh production environments and can be used in wash-down applications without the need for a custom enclosure as mentioned in the link you sent, then why it is not suitable for an outdoor corrosive area? and what is the difference between this 4x version and the custom 4x enclosure? The last thing - i am new to this -, what is it meant by flange mounted? waiting for your support Just the product has not been tested and then certified to work in outdoor... :smileytongue: The 4x custom enclosure is an electrical board certified with that rating, where you may install an IP20 drive to let it *survive* in a place where 4x is needed.PF70 4x eliminates the needs to have this supplementary board and let you install the drive directly in the harsh environments. Unfortunately, it is only certified for indoor use, so you need a flange mount drive and a 4x enclosure to obtain 4x for outdoor use.This LINK well explains what is meant for flange mount. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error 1756-DNB What meaning cycle power to unit? This show in the display cycle power to unit= pc 0x0016 ### Assistant: May you please also post the series and the firmware of your module? Anyway, I've found out three possible solutions: I guess you've already cycle power to your system and your networks...sometimes this was enough to solve.Another possibility is to download latest firmware for module, and flash it. Here the LINK If the above don't solve, there is a strong possibility that you need to return your module for repair, as this can be an hardware issue... :smileysad: seems that there are some cases in -DNB/C frn 10.xx - fuzzy logic This is an assert from the tApexHigh thread. Could be bad connection to the backplane or bad slot/rack. Or the connector on the DNB is bad, bent pin or bad solder joint. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Visual Basic 6 / RSLinx Enterprise I want to write some values to a ControlLogix PLC from within Visual Basic 6. I know that if I had RSLinx Classic installed then I could do this using DDE (or OPC). However the application is using RSLinx Enterprise (within a FactoryTalk Directory). Therefore I don't think DDE or OPC would work. Is there a way I can do this from VB6? Can I access data items in the FactoryTalk directory or somehow communicate to the PLC? Thank you, ### Assistant: Take a look at this link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/rockwellsoftware/data/gateway/ FactoryTalk Gateway (formerly RSOPC Gateway) allow third-party OPC clients to connect to FactoryTalk application. Here a couple of technotes that explain configuration... Aid 33691Aid 33541 Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy, that would appear to do what I need, the downside being the cost of having to buy the Gateway licence. I assume there's no other way around it? It seems annoying you can access RS Linx Classic using OPC but not Linx Enterprise. I notice from the ordering codes that they all appear to include RS Linx Enterprise as well, but my customer already has this? Is there a way to just get the Gateway as an extra? Can you confirm the difference between the Standalone and Distributed? I would only need to write values into a Logix controller that is setup through RS Linx Enterprise (and FactoryTalk View SE currently communicates with it)? And can you WRITE data to the PLC using the gateway? Thanks again. georgel, following the order codes for the Gateway without RSLinx Enterprise: 9355-OPD2xxxENE9355-OPS2350ENE Basically, the FactoryTalk Gateway turns the FactoryTalk Live Data transmission into OPC so it is accessible to third-party clients. This means a third-party client now has access to the FactoryTalk Services Platform, a services-oriented architecture infrastructure inherent in the Rockwell Software FactoryTalk suite. This is the why you cannot directly *talk* OPC with FactoryTalk Live Data (and RSLinx Enterprise) Aid 38467 explains the differances between the Standalone and Distributed... For sure you can write to PLC, as any other OPC server it gives you this possibility... also you may secure tag write access for your application, area, sub-area... see Getting Result Guide... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic georgel, take also a look to the following technote: Aid 38811 It explains the possibility to access the SE display client object model from VB... I don't know if it is applicable to you, there are some limitations as per the fact it should be realized on client side... Maybe you can get the PLC tags thru an SE client Display....:smileysurprised: Hope this helps...:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic This may or may not work for your situation. If your VB app is running on a machine where a Display Client is running then you could use the object model. Look at Tech ID 38811 (SE) or 5699 (RSView32). Hope that helps. Thanks for both of you. The VB object model may indeed be of use, I'll give it a go. On the FactoryTalk Gateway front I'm getting mixed messages from Rockwell about whether they still sell it both with and without RS Linx Enterprise. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 - disable the close button of the runtime client Hello, I have seen this somewhere in the past, when I worked at Rockwell tech support, but I can't remember how, but I'm pretty sure it was in VBA: How to disable the close button (the cross in the upper right corner) of a client screen in RSView32? With the client screen, I mean the parent window of the runtime client. The minimize and maximize button should still be visible and accessible. The purpose is, that operators can't close down the client, but still be able to minimize this application. Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: You are in a Catch-22 situation: you can disable the close button by unchecking a checkbox in the RAD client's configuration, but that also automatically unchecks the Minimize/Maximize checkbox. Looks like you can't do both simultaneously. Customer must deal with it.I'm not gonna find out how to bypass this. The can always switch applications with shortcuts oruse the Windows Hot keys to show the desktop. Thanks anyway! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Remote programming PLC from US to Europe over established network. In one of our European factories we have a need to remotely access, view, ans modify the program on several PLCs. Each PLC has a connected RSView32 station with RSLinx. We are networked with the European plant and I can see shared folders on the computers there, including the RSView folders. I can access and print to the printers in the European plant So So we should be able configure the network to lets us access the PLCs. Each of the RSView32 computers has two ethernet ports in it. One port is connected to the network, the other is a fixed IP address port that is connected to the PLCs. There is not a RSLogix applicaiton there so I don't think that remote desktop is going to work. How can I set this up so that I can pass through the computer to access the PLC from my US office? ### Assistant: Did you already see technote Aid 9801 ? It seems to be useful for your needs... Just try to have a look... :smileytongue: Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inviews Database Can I make a upload from a display? The problem is that I have to add some messages to a display that is working, but I don't have the original database of messages and if I download my messages I'm going to loose the messages that are working now and I don't want that. Thanks for the help. Regards ### Assistant: Unfortunately you can't. The Inview can only be downloaded to. :smileysad: The Inview messages are stored in files with a *.IVP extension.If the file or files are missing but the messages are in the Inview you can trigger the messages one at a time to find out what the text of the messages should be. For variables you will have to find out which variable slot number is being triggered to by checking the ladder logic. - fuzzy logic Ok....I was afraid to receive that answer because I have tought about doing what you told me......there are around 1000 messages.....anyway.....thanks for you help. Regards n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlNet Was ControlNet developed by Rockwell Automation or by ControlNet International? ### Assistant: ControlNet is an open industrial network protocol for industrial automation applications; it was developed by Rockwell Automation (Allen-Bradley) in 1996. It was earlier supported by Controlnet international, but in 2008 support and management of ControlNet was transferred to ODVA, which now manages all protocols in the Common Industrial Protocol family. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Clarifing Sinking and Sourcing on the 700S Here are the questions that I have about the Power-flex 700S phase II drive. I will be using an external power supply source and NOT the drive internal power supply from Terminal ### Assistant: wow... pretty long question ! :smileyvery-happy: Yes, you're right, there is a type-o on that manual... :smileysurprised: In order to see the correct version, download the following : PF700S ph II User Manual - page 1-27 (here attached is a screenshot) Also, what you explain you want to realize is correct; you're sinking the digital outputs...again take a look to the attached image. Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Wow, Hey Logic thanks a bunch for your response! Certainly cleared things up. Yes your right I could have been a bit more to the point. At any rate I cerainly hope I can return the favor someday! take care... n"}
{"text": "### Human: the difference between Monochrome and Grayscale of Panelvew How is the difference between Monochrome Panelview and Grayscale Panelview ? Can we replace Monochrome Panelview by Grayscale Panelview ? Is there any problem about this issue ? ### Assistant: Monochrome refers to display screens that use one foreground and one background color; for example, black on white, white on black or green on black. The first terminals connected to mainframes and minicomputers were monochrome, and monochrome screens were widely used on early personal computers. Monochrome Vs. Grayscale: Quite often, a non-color monitor is called monochrome; however, if it displays shades of the single color, then it is a grayscale monitor.So this means the display consist of one color, for example grey, but in different shades like dark gray and light gray or even white. Hope this helps... And.... as the Grayscale has a better definition, you will have no problem, just you may improve your display... See the screenshot... - fuzzy logic Thank you very much Nice screenshot fuzzy :smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: install 22-COMM-D into powerflex 400 We have powerflex 400 part 22C-D060A103. We want to install devicenet communication 22-COMM-D. Do we need to buy communication adapter cover ? ### Assistant: RiverVN,no you dont need to buy communication cover for this rating.It is required for only PF 40 small rating drives. :smileywink: Thank you very much RiverVN,pls mark my post as accepted solution so that the thread is closed.:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView and Ethernet Network Hello everybody!!! I have an application with a PanelView Plus 700, which is still working, but the communication was made with Ethernet connection to the controller. Unfortunately the panel view has some problems with the communication. The distance between the Panel View and the controller are 20 meters. Could you tell me, if I have to use a special cable for Ethernet? Where could I fine this information? I would be very delighted to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Yari ### Assistant: Yari, attached the required cable specification... If you are constructing your own cable, be sure to respect the color code as indicated in the following technote... it is important for the standard ethernet cable impedance between lines... :smileysurprised: Aid 22895 Many times the problem was not related to the length.. just the right pairs/color used in the cable ! Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, Many thanks for your quickly answer. :smileyhappy: Just one question more about the same. Where could I fine this manual: EtherNet/IP Media Planning and Installation Manual ENET-IN001? I found only this one: enet-ap001_-en-p. We need this information to check the cable, that the customer provided. Why? Well this is an isolated network, it means, there is only a PanelView Plus 700 with a Controller, but if the controller go down and up after some minutes, the panel view cannot find the controller. I asked today morning to support and they said, that the problem could be on the cable. So, do you have any other idea, where the problem is? By the way, we won't do any cable. The customer will buy the right cable on site. :smileyindifferent: I would be very delighted to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Yari Yari, try the following LINK for the manual... ENET-IN001 is old and I think it is not available... Obviously, try a shorter cable and also another long cable, to see if the problem comes with the length or not... also not exclude a problem in the hardware devices...(PanelviePlus Ethernet card, PLC etc.) Anyway, the length you need should not be a problem...:smileyindifferent: - fuzzy logic Yari, did you solve this issue ? Have you any feedback to share? :smileyhappy: Thanks,- fuzzy logic Dear fuzzy logic, The problem is always there.:smileysad: But I don't know if the customer has all right, I mean. If the connection to the electricity is the correct, and so on. So, this time I cannot share anything.:smileyindifferent: Anyway, thank you for your question. Have a nice day.:smileyhappy: Yari n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC5/25 PC CARD What do I need to connect my PLC5/25 to my windows xp PC environment . ### Assistant: Iszkula,what i get from your question is that the physical media required to connect your pc to?if right,you need to connect a serial cable ( 1784-CP10 ) to your pc and configure a rs232 driver in your rslinx to get connected to the plc 5/25.Hope it helps.:smileywink: Iszkula, PLC5/25 is a Classic PLC-5 Processor, and do NOT have a serial port ! :smileysurprised: Classic processors have a 9-pin D-shell programming terminal connection parallel to the DH+ channel 3-pin connector. You may use: a PCI card 1784-PKTX with 1784-CP cablea PCMCIA card 1784-PCMK with 1784-PCM5 cable Also Aid 51902 gives a work around in order to use the new 1784-U2DHP interface...but you need to realize your own cable.... :smileysad: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV 600 with DH+485 protocol i´d like know if PVP 600 with catalog number 2711P-T6C5A can support communication with DH+485 protocol, ### Assistant: Yes, you have the possibility to use that protocol over embedded serial port, using the Serial DH485 driver in RSLinx Enterprise. Take a look to these technotes about this communication. Aid 51658 - Aid 29713 - Aid 28023 Also there is the possibility to add an optional DH-485 communication module to the PVP, 2711P-RN3. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: I'm in a Pickle - Security Service Activation Problem In the RSMACC Change Management folder on my RsLogix 500 Pro CD, there's a utility called Enable RSLogix 5 or 500 Security.exe. I was playing around with it and managed to inadvertently enable security on all of my RsLogix 5 and 500 programs. When I go to open one of my applications, I get a message telling me that a Security Server* client was not found and the install program must abort. The problem is that there is an installation copy of the client on the RsLogix CD, however, it must be activated with a serial number. We have not purchases this activation. I managed to deactivate security server from my RsLogix 5 projects by simply uninstalling and reinstalling RsLogix 5 Pro. However, when I try to uninstall RsLogix 500 Pro, I get the above error message. How may I disable the Security services for RsLogix 500? Is there a registry entry one can change? HELP!!! Thanks,James ### Assistant: Thanks for the help, but it didn't work. For one, my registry had no entries for security,security server, and security client, but that's because the security client wasn't installed to beginwith. I also checked out Aid 21946 but that didn't help either. There's got to be a file someplace (or a registry entry) that holds the enable or disable stateof the security server for RsLogix 500 Pro and RsLogix 5 Pro. Thanks,James Try to remove the registry key using regedit. USE CAUTION WHEN EDITING THE REGISTRY. MISTAKES IN REGISTRY EDITING CAN CORRUPT THE REGISTRY TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO REINSTALL THE OPERATING SYSTEM. Be sure to export the registry to a new file name before making changes in the original registry. Delete the following folders under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareRockwell Software security, security server, security client, Rslogix 5, Rslogix 500 Then, using add/remove programs, try to uninstall Rslogix 5 and Rslogix 500 and reboot your machine.Now you should be able to reinstall your software. It should be possible that you 'll find some problem trying to reinstall...if it happens, take a look to Aid 21946; it explains how to remove all the software keys. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can't return some borrowed activations In reference to a previous thread, I have a situation where users can borrow activations but can't return them. This also doesn't apply to all activations either. It seems many of the RSXXX activations can't be returned, however products such as AC.SERVER can be borrowed and returned w/o issue. I've configured the activation files so the server listens on port 27500 (as we're also running AutoCAD which listens on the default port of 27000, and that appears to be working as configuing the clients to said port allows the activations to be seen and the software runs. I'm not sure where else to look. There is reference to a ClientBorrowUnlock.exe to reset everything... but where is it?. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thx,Eric ### Assistant: I think I saw that in an earlier post... it says: Not Available At This TimeThis answer may be getting updated, or it may only be available to TechConnect support contract holders (see answer 50871 for details). Thx,Eric Actually, in this case, it should NOT have been marked TechConnect only. All activation issues are free to everyone. I've changed the status on that particular answer, so it should open up correctly for you know. Sorry about that. JHutch Excellant... Although this app will remove the borrowed activations on the client, ... how do they get released on the server? Do I run the same app on the server too? Thx,Eric Negative, it will only clear out the client. The server side is much harder to force a reset of the borrowed activations, however. I am not allowed to comment on how to clear out that side. You will probably need to call in for that. Take a look to Aid 36370... it may helps. - fuzzy logic There are some boards/technotes that require you to have a support contract with Rockwell to see them. If you already have a TechConnect support contract, you can put your authorization number directly into your profile and the boards/technotes will become immediately available. See this post in the Welcome section for more information. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Legacy PanelView 1000 Comms thru ab 1756-DHRIO Hi All:I have a Panelview 100 (DH+ comms) runing Firmware 4.20. I am trying to download to the PanelView Via an ENBT to the DHRIO. PanelBuilder gets stuck at Checking Operator Terminal for Compatability. I can upload fine. The DH+ is 230k thru channel A of the DH RIO ( Ser C. Ver 5.4). No problems with 5/04s Any thoughs? Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: Is Rockwell going to put this feature back into RSLinx. We use this all the time and we just started having problems connecting to one of our older PV. Also, we use AssetCentre which uploads for a compare and DR. This could effect a lot. Can anyone from Rockwell please expand on this. The tech note does not say anything about RSLinx 2.54. I've got to agree with Craig! Why in the world would they reduce past functionality? This NOT a good feature! BTW, Fuzzy Logic, thanks for the response. When I searched the knowledge base prior to posting, I couldn't find the tech note you referenced. As I understand, this wasn't a feature. It wasn't meant to happen; it is an anamoly with that particular version. Until they get a new version out, reverting to an earlier version of RSLinx is the only work around for this very specific issue. JHutch Jim7895, all you need to know is explained in Aid 19393 Be aware that starting from RSLinx 2.53 this Passthrough is no longer supported ! Here from RSLinx Classic Release Notes - Known Anomalies You cannot download data to a Standard Panel View on a DH+ network if your computer is connected to the Standard Panel View via RSLinx Classic > EtherNet > 1756-ENBT Backplane > 1756-DHRIO > DH+ network path. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Global Keys in RSV32 XP SP2 not working I migrated a RSView32 v7.2 project from Windows 2000 to a computer running XP SP2 OS. The global keys file does not seem to work. F1,F2 and down arrow are the only keys in the project. Works just fine in Windows 2000. Thoughts on what I need to modify in Windows to get the keys to work? Thanks for your time ### Assistant: The Global Key file is chosen in the Startup Preferences. This is currently working properly and has been for 7 years now on the other computers on this project. I replaced an existing computer with one that has XP SP2. This so far is the only difference that I am seeing. Ctl Alt P doesn't pop up the project manager in Runtime as the others do. There have been no changes to this project. Maybe a silly question....but just to be sure... Did you use somewhere the Key command to enable your Global Keys ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Long distance SCADA solution I am looking for the long distance SCADA solution using redundant(dual) fiber optic cable. The max distance is 35 km. I will use Micrologix as RTU and Modbus protocol. What is the best solution/product(Converter?) ??? Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ### Assistant: Take a look to Hirschmann internet site; they have many fiber repeaters that may solve your needs... OZD 485 Modbus Fiberoptic Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for your comment. Generally, most of fiber converter, including hirschmann, support max 22 km only.But, I need the converter support max 35km.... Just a note... If you can put another repeater in the middle of your line, then you can for example insert 3 devices like those indicated in my previous post. One in the start of the line, one in the middle, one at the end of the line, 35 km far; just be sure to not run more than 22 Km between repeaters. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Tag-Based Alarming Acknowledge action FTView SE 5.0 Redundant HMI Servers using standard Tag-based alarming due to the lack of redundancy support in FT A & E. Need ability to SET a bit in a controller when a particular HMI Alarm tag is acknowledged in the alarm summary. Do not want to have to acknowledge the alarm and then click identify in order to set the bit. ### Assistant: Fuzzy, Thank you very much for your response, and I have tried that. I am able to set a bit in the HMI, but not a controller. When I browse the tag in the tag browser using the elipses next to the Acknowledge bit entry field, I am able to only browse HMI tags and not controller tags. I have the Data Server in a different sub-area, but I am able to browse them everywhere except in the Handshake bit browser. I have been able to set an event to hand-off from HMI to controller, but overhead and hand-off issues raise significant concern and we are being asked to find the direct solution. Any Ideas? yep, tried that and here is a screen shot of the failure.Notice the failure states ..not a valid HMI tag name. I have not upgraded to S1 in ViewSE because development for this project began a while ago. Could it be an S1 upgrade that allows that functionality? You may use the Acknowledge bit to obtain this... See the screenshot.... Also, be aware of what explained in Aid 54086 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Did you try to manually enter your tag in an HMI tag ? I mean : /AreaName::[ShortcutName]TagName Be aware to remove the curly braces { } from the above address if you browse it from somewhere and paste it to your new HMI tag... {/AreaName::[ShortcutName]TagName} is not correct if you use it in a HMI tag... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I'm sorry, maybe my previous post was not so clear... You should create a new HMI tag to use there; inside that tag, you've to point out your controller tag in the other area's data server.I guess the Alarm Acknowledge bit field can accept only an HMI tag, not a direct reference. I've not the possibility to test it, anyway.... Please give it a try, then post here the result... - fuzzy logic Very Interesting. I had tried this early on in my investigation, and it didn't work, but I created a couple new tags, both in the HMI tag list and in the testing controller, and 'poof' it worked. Who knows? Anyway, thank you for the help and the final outcome is that using the acknowledge bit tied to an HMI tag that is tied to a controller tag is the way to make it work. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk Security Forum? Any chance Rockwell might add a Security forum? I realize the sensitivity of the subject. ### Assistant: There is always a chance of anything! :) That said, I don't really see a need for a dedicated Security forum at this point. What security our software supports is better handled in a discussion about that particular product. For instance, RSLogix 5000 has some security features, but it works differently than the security built into FactoryTalk View SE. A discussion of security abstract from a discussion of the product it is being used with is not going to be very common. Sure, this could change. And responses to this may convince me that I missed an entire aspect, so don't think this is a iron-clad resolution-never to be discussed again. :) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Database Synchronisation failed I have a problem with Database Synchronisation.The following error message is generated during project open: Database Synchronisation failed I delete the CACHE folder and the proyect load. But the problem appear again I want eliminate this error forever ThanksJuane ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 39423.... there is a collection of technotes about that... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Multiple processors If there are two processors installed in a ControlLogix I/O chassis, how to configure the system to specify which processor is to control which output module? Is a single project can be used to configure both processors or two different projects required and one for each processor? ### Assistant: Trank, you will need to create one project for each processor.Then, inside every project you will configure the modules that will be *owned* by that controller. - fuzzy logic If there is a 7-slot chassis, and there are Controller1, Controller2, Input Module 1, Input Module 2, Output Module 1 and Output Module 2 installed from slot 0 to 5 of the chassis respectively. Output Module 1 is to be owned by Controller 1 and Output Module 2 is to be owned by Controller 2, then should all the 6 modules be added to I/O configuration of each project? How to configure an output module to be own by a controller? No, you don't need to add all the modules in each project; you have to configure only the modules that controller should communicate with. If you add a module under I/O configuration, lets say an output module, that controller will own the module if you select as Comm Format (in General Tab of Properties for that module) something different than Listen Only.A controller owns a module if it is able to configure it when the connection became active, so if it holds the module configuration in its project. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC5 defaulting I am in need of some help. We have a system with a PLC5/40E using DH+ to communicate with a PV, RIO for flex, and ethernet for our business network. In the past 2 weeks the processor has defaulted 4 times. This same problem happened 2 years ago and replacing the processor seemed to fix the problem until now. We have already looked at noise, but everything looks good. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ### Assistant: How do you get the controller to recover ? Do you just cycle the keyswitch, or cycle power ? Do you have to re-load the program ? My next few steps would be to run the serial Fault Dump Utility to find out if the controller underwent an operating system crash. Controllers can fault on various programmatic issues, like array overruns or negative values in a preset, for example. Controllers can fault on firmware bugs, which usually cause characteristic data to be written to the memory read by the fault dump utility. Controllers can fault on self-diagnostic functions like RAM integrity, which are usually the reasons that a controller will lose its memory. In reality, it has cleared the memory because the user program RAM failed a checksum test. The user program wasn't lost, it was thrown away because it could not function correctly. Noise will often manifest itself in other ways, such as causing recoverable errors on DH+ and Ethernet network connections. See if the controller's Status files or the built-in Ethernet web page can give you some idea if there is constant low-level noise causing recoverable problems on those channels. Thanks for the quick response. When we have this problem the program must be reloaded. Where can I find the serial Fault Dump Utility, I am not familiar with that. As far as programming issues that has been looked at when we had the problem in the past.Not saying there couldn't be issues, so that will be explored as well. Thanks For sure Ken Roach will have more details on that... :smileywink: In the meanwhile.... This utility isn't available for customers... it is a tool used by Rockwell Automation Engineers to analyse the occurred anomaly. Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 42609 - Aid 29995 There is explained how to extract the crash.log file to send to technical support in order to be checked. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic I sent the crash.log file to tech support yesterday. With the PLC on the business network, I would suspect that a 'data storm' might be causing your PLC to clear memory. You can setup data storm counters in the PLC to track if there are problem sthat the processor is seeing on the network. See AID 19475 for setting up the data storm counters. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Multiple versions of RSLogix5000 I have V13, V15, and V16 of Logix 5000. I would like to set up a desktop icon for each version onto my desktop. How do I go about this? Thanks, Mike ### Assistant: I don't see the purpose of this...If you open RSLogix 5000 and create a new file, than you always have to choose the firmware revision of the controller. If you open an existing acd file, he will open the right revision.So in any case it is useless to make different shortcuts for different versions. Hope this helps... Mike, Aid 41069 has the solution to your needs... :smileyhappy: Anyway, Jamy is correct, when you create a new project you may select the version to use...also if you open an .ACD file, it will launch the correct software... Only needs I guess, is to avoid to loose time if you have opened version 17 and want to create a new project with version 13 or viceversa... RS5000 needs to charge the correct *profile* for the version you've choosen and takes time.... not too much ... :smileytongue: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I have two customers one of which insists on all projects being done In V15.02, the other wants all projects in V16. I made a mistake one day and every software glitch that ocurred for the next month was suddenly my fault.:smileymad: I am Intending on putting the customers name on the Icons to remove any further misadventures. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000 ladder PID I don't seem to get any satisfaction from the logix 5000 PID. I have tuned PID's in other controllers but these just won't control. I have tried P & I figures from .1 to 50 and all I get is on off control.It gets right up on setpoint and then shuts output down to zero. ### Assistant: As you know, PID setup isn't an easy matter...sometimes it requires external softwares to tune up well; I've used the RS5000 PID sometimes, and it works fine for me... I don't know if you've seen my previous answer before it was moved by a moderator... here again... :smileytongue: Anyway, usually a good point to start is inside Micrologix Instruction Manual (no, I'm not crazy, I know you're asking about RS5000 PID... ).At chapter 19 (page 19-23) you may find out a PID tuning procedure that usually give you a good starting point, and some stability to your control loop.Be aware that parameters scaling could be different, take it just as a guide to the steps to make. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic My experiences with Logix5000 PID are exactly the opposite. I have found them to be stable, and easy to tune, relative to other platforms. As you said you don't seem to get any satisfaction as a general term, so I'll assume two things. 1. You have previous nexperience of tuning PID loops, and2. Your problems lie within the controller, i.e. you don't have difficult control loops to tune. Even so, difficult loops are greatly simplified by the following.... The most important factor determining PID performance is it's execution. The calculations performed by the PID instruction are time-based, as it uses integration w.r.t. time. For this reason, PIDs should be executed on as constant a time-base as possible. Some trigger the instruction with a cyclic timer in the logic, and this is usually acceptable, as the variations in overall scan time (and hence how consistently the PID is scanned), are tolerable. For a more accurate execution rate, place PIDs in a Periodic Task, ensuring that they execute at a consistent time interval. Whether scanned by a cyclic timer, or by period task execution, the PID equations always need to know what this time interval is, and you must configure the PIDTag.UPD (Update) parameter accordingly. This is a REAL tag, in Seconds. I have always favoured a Periodic Task solution for best accuracy and consistency. You can also use GSV to get the Task/This/Rate system value (DINT, in microseconds), and divide by 1,000,000, putting the reusult into PIDTag.UPD parameter. The code then automatically updates the .UPD parameter if changed. You must also consider the data update time for your analogue inputs and outputs. This will be the longest of either the Analogue I/O modules' RPI settings, or their configured RTS (Real-Time-Sample) rate. There is little point in executing a PID instruction at, say, 10mS intervals, if your feedback refreshed at, say, 100mS intervals. The PID will just calculate 10 times with the same data, but time will have elapsed, and that will affect the PID calculations. To keep things simple, I have generally adopted a 100mS standard timebase. Periodic task =100mS, Loop Update interval (tracked) = 100mS, Analogue RPI = 100mS, and Analogue RTS = 100mS. If you keep those factors in mind, I'm sure you will have far more success with your PID tuning and execution. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Calling VBA via Command Is there any way to call a VBA function by a command? ### Assistant: Here you've not specified the software you're using... :smileysurprised: Lets suppose FactoryTalk View SE... There isn't a command that call VBA function... anyway, you may try to use as workaround the catching of an event in a tag... I mean, where you want with some conditions to run the command, you'll set a tag; then, you may use some VBA code to keep this tag value checked and start your function when it changes. Aid 22007 could help on that. Or Aid 3325 if you're asking about RSView32.... It is just an idea...hope this helps.... :smileytongue:- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix I/O placement I am new to CompactLogix, having previously worked with PLC-5 and ControlLogix. Given 2 existing banks: Bank1 order (left to right):1769-L35E, IF8, IF8, 1769-PA2 (pwr sply), IT6, OF2/B, OF4CI Bank2 order (left to right):IA16, IA16, IA16, IA16, 1769-PA4 (pwr sply), OA16, OA16, OA16, OA16 I need to add one additional OF4CI module to the above layout. If I add it to the right of the existingOF4CI module won't that re-number the slot numbers of all modules in bank 2? Should I add it to the right of the last OA16 in bank2? Are there any issues with placing low andhigh voltage modules side by side? ### Assistant: Unfortunately if you add the new module to the right of the existing OF4CI module all the slot numbers of all modules in bank 2 will be renumbered .... :smileysad: To avoid this, you're right, you need to place it in the second bank, to the right of the last OA16. No particular issue reguarding module placement... obviously, when possible, all *sensitive* modules should be placed far from high voltage and preferably near to the processor... :smileytongue:This of course to avoid *noises*... Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic It did help, thanks! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000: Impact of CPU time when using SINT instead of DINT Hello, A customer is using a lot of SINT datat type. We know that this has an impact in term of CPU execution time to manipulate them.I would like to know exactly the extra cost. Specialy for MOC and COP instructions. RegardsHep ### Assistant: Hep, all the informations you need are in the following manual: Logix Controllers Execution Time Time spent on conversion is illustrated at pages 4 and 49. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Hello Fuzzy Logic, Yes, I saw this. But my question is specially based for the MOV instruction impacted with data conversion ?If we move a SINT to a SINT ?Should we add SINT -> DINT execution time (0.52uS) + DINT to SINT (2.33uS), means each moves will cost 2.85uS more ? Yes, your considerations are right... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Perfect thanks. And what happends in this case: XIC myBool OTE mySint.3Is it also slower than:XIC myBool OTE myDint.3 No, I think in this case the time is the same for the two versions.... You're in both cases pointing a bit in an element.... no conversion is needed. Consider the conversion when controller has to do a calculation or a manipulation of the data. - fuzzy logic Ok, thnaks a lot. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Determining if I am running in Studio or Deployment (VBA) I know I can determine if it is design time by trying an action that produces an error and then checking the error, but is there a more elegant or preferred way to ascertain if I am running in the design environment (FactoryTalk Studio) or the deployment environment? Thanks! ### Assistant: The Application.Name property returns FactoryTalk View Studio within the development environment and Display Client when run from a client. That should do the trick. See AID 58840. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Unable to Download Scanlist to 1756-DNB- Communication error 12 One of our customer was using 1756 DNB Series B Rev5. Now he want to replace it with Series C Rev 10 module. The problem is, when attempting to download the saved RSNetwox File, it gives an error and download terminates. We followed the solution given in Answer ID 48877, But the same occurs while downloading scanlist. Error: Unable to establish communication with the target device,Communication error 12. Controller : L63 V16. Electronic keying is Disabled. Also we deleted the old DNB module from IO Tree and added new one. But he was not able to select a revision more than 5 in his logix 5000 V16. Please Help ### Assistant: Normally this error comes when something is communicating with the scanner and prevent another connection to it to be established.Try to remove the scanner module from the I/O tree, put your controller in prog mode, and cycle power to PLC chassis and Devicenet.Then try again the download.If it succeed, then you may add your module in the I/O tree again , as before, disabling Electronic Keying. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Sorry for late....and thanks for your answer... I found that the problem is with the firmware and i just upgraded the module..It strated working fine..Here is the link foe knowledgebase article regarding the 1756-DNB series C firmware revision 10.004 anomolies.Answer ID 49899 n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS Logix 5000 version 16 hi fellowsi have rs logix version 10 and 13. now i want to install version 16.if i install version 16 plz tell me that the activation key is required or not.version 10 and 13 already activated.the problem is that the rslogix file is not open in that version because version 16 is used to create the project.any other solution?thanks ### Assistant: Version 16 of RSLogix5000 will use the same activation you've already for other versions.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Microsoft Forms TextBox Active X In FTView 5.0 my Microsoft Forms 2.0 Textbox controls are being resized when I test the display that I am editing. When I go back to design mode the Textbox size has changed.Is there a method to lock the Textbox size in FTView? ### Assistant: We have had similar issues and found that if you un check the size to fit box, things stay as created.I hope this helps, Doug I have experienced the same thing. And also with microsoft forms listboxes. Where exactly is that size to fit box? I've had the same issue too.... :smileysad: I've solved setting IntegralHeight properties to False. This is normally used to automatically resize the control so that it doesn't display partial items; if you want to mantain the original size, set it to false. See the screenshot... Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic setting the properity integralheight to false solved the issue for most of the objects but I still have one listbox that keeps resizing whenever I press the edit display button :smileysurprised: Did you already try the following ? . Delete the object with the issue.. Save your display.. Copy and Paste a Listbox that doesn't exibit the problem.. Modify it as needed (also double check IntegralHeight is false) Do you still have the problem ? Let me know.... - fuzzy logic No I haven't tried that. But I have a lot of vba code attached to the listboxes and references to the objects in vba. Is there an easy way I could try it without messing to much up :-). It is a running system mdc, I don't know the entity of your VBA... anyway I may suggest to copy all VBA code to a text file if it is possible, make the modifications being sure to assign to the ListBox the same Name as before, then paste the code back into VBA. I guess you've already thought about similar method... :smileywink: eam, could you please give your feedback also...you've started the thread.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I tried what you suggested. first made a copy of the entire display. Then copied all the vba code and created a new ms forms listbox and applied all the same propertiey settings and deleted the old listbox and renamed the new to the old and pasted the vba code into the display. Unfortunately the listbox behaved the same way. kept resizing when I pressed the edit display button. I wanted to post a screenshot of the properties of the listbox but don't know how to show the image via an URL? In order to post an image, take your screenshot, save it as a .jpg file, reduce its size to accomodate in the forum post without problems (I think 500 pixels in width could be fine) and use Add Attachments on the right side of your new reply. - fuzzy logic Ahh. So easy. Thanks mmmhhh... it seems ok... :smileysurprised: You say you've created a new ListBox... please try to copy an EXISTING similar ListBox from same page (I mean one of the working fine ListBox) , Paste it, modify the properties you need and the name, paste the code and test... I cannot understand the why now just this object has the problem.... :smileymad: Give it a try and let me know... - fuzzy logic Maybe the problem is not with the ActiveX properties but with the display settings? Open your graphic, go to Edit-> Display Settings and make sure you are not Sizing to Main Screen at Runtime. Also make sure the Pan radio button is selected. Does the resizing problem disappear when you test run in Studio? If so, make sure the DisplayClient is also not configured to size to main window at runtime. If changing this affects the problem, at least you'll know what the problem is. I'm really puzzeled now. I tried to copy the one working listbox which dosent resize when pressing edit disply button. Changed the properties to that of the broken listbox keeping integralheight to false. And it still resized when going back to edit mode. Jonathan: I'm only seing the problem in Studio. It works fine when running on a client?? And size to main window is unchecked and pan is checked I wish I could offer some deep insight here, but all I can say is we are talking two different programs. I have no idea why the screen renders one way in the development environment and another in the display client. Maybe others have some good ideas? n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSBatch Active-X in RSView-SE (.OCX) Hi, I have a question about the RSBatch Acitve-X in RSView-SE. (Without installing FT-RSBatch-Software) I have imported batchv01.ocx, batchv02.ocx and SignatureListOCX.ocx. (Object-ActiveX Control...-Register...) (Source: batch_axcuser.pdf)These files contain the following controls:ControlRecipeList controlPromptsList controlProcedureView controlSignatureList control I see the new Active-X'es in the list. Now, when I select batchview.ControlRecipeList, batchview.PromptList or BatchView2.ProcedureView, click OK,I get the following message: Failed to create object. I don't know alot about Active-X components, so I don't know what could be wrong. Maybe I need to place other files (.dll maybe) in a specific folder? Can someone help me on this issue? Thanks alot! Kind regards, Tom ### Assistant: Tom, I don't know specifically these ActiveX, but I got this error sometimes. Be sure to save the .ocx files in a folder in c:... avoid USB hard drives.This folder must be left there *forever*, also after the files registration. After that, try to register again your files, using the procedure in Aid 29730. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Tom, if I understand you correctly, the Batch ActiveX controls do appear when you attempt to add an ActiveX control into the graphic? If they appear in the list, then they are registered. It's been a long time since I had an RSBatch ActiveX control project, but regarding ActiveX controls in general, one cause for a failed to create object would be that they are not installed properly. Did you copy these .OCX files to this computer or did you install the RSBatch Client? Try installing the client and see if that works for you. Hope that helps! Hello, I have indeed copied the .OCX files from a batch-server and I agree, this could be the problem.I thought about it, but I don't know what operators can do with the batch-client exactly. I'll try it out to be sure. Thanks for your replies! Hi, I've installed the Batch-Client, I see the ActiveX'es in the list (batchview.ControlRecipeList, batchview.PromptList and BatchView2.ProcedureView). I can select one and click the OK-button. I have a box standing on my screen now, but there is also a message in it. It says: The current user does not have permission to view YYY. (YYY = RecipeList, Prompt or Procedure). (While client is running, the boxes aren't vissible). Someone knows where it went wrong? So, another issue to solve... :smileytongue: Greetings Tom, it sounds like the original failed to create object is fixed. As far as your new errror  The current user does not have permission to view YYY, I can't say that I've seen that one before. I wonder if it might be related to the error A required privilege is not held by the client that appears in the Batch View client if the current user does not have the Windows privilege “Act as part of operating system”. See tech note 28234 - maybe it will help? n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 500 not updating the data Hi,I am using RSLogix 500 V7.10.00. When I go online, RSLogix does not update the data vlues but I can see the values changing in the HMI and program works fine. There are similar reports on V4. I was wondering if anybody has reported in V7.10.00 Thanks a lot for your help.-G2 ### Assistant: Never seen.... :smileysurprised: Anyway, a quick test to do I can suggest is explained in Aid 8487 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix - Auto-generated I/O Aliases What is the purpose of the auto-generated aliases to the real I/O address in the ControlLogix? Unless they are intended to perform some buffer function, which I don't believe they do,they only add confusion for those unfamiliar with the controller tag database. It appears that they cannot be deleted though I would like to. ### Assistant: May you post an example of an Auto-generated alias you mean ? I'm sorry but it is not clear to me... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Attachment is an example A couple of ideas about the why.... 1. When you create a module in a remote chassis, in the Controller Tag folder are created different types of Module tag, for example Configuration (C); it is *nice* to have the same syntax for all the tags related to that module. I mean CNB_PRB01:9:I and CNB_PRB01:9:C is more clear than CNB_PRB01:I.Slot[9].Data and CNB_PRB01:9:C The last seems some different module... 2. Assume you define a Rack Optimized digital module in slot 9 of your remote chassis and thus use CNB_PRB01:9:I.Data.0 as address in your program.Then assume you decide to change this module's Comm Format to Input Data (non rack optimized)... the address you've used in your program doesn't need to be changed, the syntax is the same.... If you were using CNB_PRB01:I.Slot[9].Data.0 you would need to change this address in your program, as this became invalid when using Direct Connection. I mean, you will use in your program the same syntax for an address related to a Rack Optimized module as well as a Direct Connected module; I think this is more clear for someone which *read* the program.... Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Lnking other products to RSview32 Hello Can you pease let me know if other systems/devices can link to RSview32 and display sensor data. We have a mixture of an old RSview system and a new Siemens system and to be honest the Siemens is not performing as we want. We therefore are looking at upgrading our RSview32 system and seeing if we can incorporate the other Siemens projects into a single display and web function, as well as having 1 database to report on. We work in the hydro power generating industry and are looking at a lot of these systems so any help would be very useful Thanks Tonyb ### Assistant: You may buy KEPServer Enterprise from Rockwell Automation. KEPServer Enterprise provides serial and Ethernet OPC servers that allow communication between many third-party industrial devices and RSView32, FactoryTalk View Site Edition, and FactoryTalk View Machine Edition. All drivers are supported by Rockwell Software. Ordering cat. number is 9301-OPCSRVENE. Supported drivers for Siemens as following: Siemens S5 Siemens S5 (3964R) Siemens S7 MPI Siemens S7-200 Siemens TCP/IP Ethernet Simatic 505 Simatic 505 Ethernet Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error 0002 in SCL 500 I'm working with a SLC 500 and I got an 0002 error talking about an error with the watchdog timer. I can't find what it is. Could someone help me? ### Assistant: The attached from SLC instruction manual.... seems related to noise or grounding... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Improt tags Hi 2 questions regarding importing tags Can import tag from a remote computer on a distributed FTViewSE system ? Can you import tag if FTViewSE Studio is not installed ? THX a lot ### Assistant: Hi Joe. Your first question is a definite no. You must be local to the HMI server that you are importing/exporting. And I strongly suspect that it is not possible to import/export tags if Studio is not installed, though I haven't tried it myself. On Every SE HMI server I configure, I always install Studio, for exactly these cases. You do need to license it, but only have it installed on the machine. You can always remove the shortcuts to Studio if you are worrying about someone opening it up and kicking it into 7 day grace mode (which would only affect Studio). n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTView 5.0 Backup Restore Utility Tag DB problem Sometimes when I run the Backup restore tool, the backup completes and no errors are reported, however the tag DB is 200 KB in size. The tag db file should be in the range of 5-10 MB. I have seen this issue at 2 sites, both running CPR 9, but never on CPR7 (servers were upgraded from CPR7 to CPR9). If you run the tool again the tag DB is the correct size and the backup is correct. ### Assistant: I know I have seen what you are describing, but have yet to pin-point the cause. I am suspecting that the HMI Backup Utility was not properly installed. The installation instructions give directions for configuring it to run as a service. If you are backing up a running HMI server and only get the 200KB tag database, try re-installing per the directions and see if that helps. The section of the install instructions I'm referring to is shown below: 3.4. Once located to the desired path location, register the process “Rockwell HMI Backup Server.exe” as a service as follows: 3.4.1. Open the DOS cmd prompt and navigate to the correct directory location; 3.4.2. Enter command (including quotes) as follows: “Rockwell HMI Backup Server.exe” /service I have reinstalled it twice. I thought that I have kicked this twice (permissions, path lengths) but it always seems to return. I think it may fail the first time you try it after a reboot, after that it works fine. I know to check the size of the tag DB every time that I do a backup. It is strange that it is only on CPR9. I figured it out myself. The customer had copied the HMIBACKUPRESTORE.exe to the desktop and was running it from there. I replaced the .exe with a shortcut to the original location and it has worked ever since. n"}
{"text": "### Human: LMTools Does anyone have any insight or useful knowledge with the LMTools spplication? There in no help file with the software. I have three serial numbers, for my three toolkits and the LMTools application only generates reports for the lowest order serial number. Any thoughts?? Thanks! ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 41438 unless already done.... it may help. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Single PowerFlex 40 10HP drive What Enclosure size I neeed to mount a single PowerFlex 40 10HP, 7.5Kw inverter into an enclosure NEMA 4/12. What Size enclosure should i use? ### Assistant: I may suggest to take a look to PowerFlex 40 User Manual. You drive is a Frame C; dimensions at page B-7 , mounting clearances and considerations at page 1-3 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: msg from slc 5/05 to controllogix 5561 hi, I am try to use a msg instruction to send a data from one slc 505 to a controllogix 5561, The problem is i get a error d8> connection was broken I mape de N11 in controllogix as a integer In SLC i send a message using chanel 1, a puting the ip address of controllogix and taking as a target n11:0. Regards ### Assistant: Did you enable Multihop in the Message setup ? See the screenshot.... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic yes i did, but now i found a error code db, did you know what it mean? Regards Are you sure about the message path ? I mean... (inside MultiHop tab) The IP address of Ethernet Module in Controllogix systemThe slot number of the processor Are the SLC and the Ethernet/IP module on the same subnet ? The mapped tag in RS5000 related to N11 is of type INT ? It MUST be INT.... - fuzzy logic D8h Connection was broken means the TCP/IP connection was broken between the 2 devices. Is there just one message in the SLC controller?Did you tried with a completely new program? For the rest, check out the answer of fuzzy logic Hope it helps... Yes Jamy, good point... :smileywink: Aid 25593 goes in depth with this. - fuzzy logic Also, I found the description of DBh error you got last time.... Multi-Hop messaging CIP Message format error Also check the size of the data in SLC and CLX should match... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML 1200 password forgotten. Do we have a master password for ML 1200 as i seem to have forgotten password?Its urgent!!!!!!!!!1 ### Assistant: Vikas, see Aid 16846... it cover this problem... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communicating with a PLC 5 from Linux Hi all, I have a customer who is trying to communicate with an Allen-Bradley PLC 5 from Linux. I know a way to do this would be to have an intermediate Windows PC runningOPC Server software and exposing the tags over a standard TCP/IP connection, but he wants to do it directly from Linux. Anyone know if this is even possible? Thanks. Eric VogelNational Instruments Applications Engineerwww.ni.com/support ### Assistant: Here an interesting post, discussing about OPC server on Linux OS. LINK Seems that Kepware is working on it... they already have OPC server with Rockwell driver and protocols, so when they finish the development on Linux... :smileyhappy: Another way could be to use DF1 protocol, writing the protocol by yourself, using the DF1 command guide (not so easy.... :smileysurprised: ) see Aid 27504 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Evogel, I'm not sure what your application is, but if what you are talking about is occasional transmission of data between a Unix-based application and a ControlLogix or CompactLogix, you might be interested in the 1756-EWEB or 1769-EWEB. Using sockets, it is possible to pass data through TCP/IP between the module and your application - no OPC required. Check out tech notes 48879 and 32962 for more information on this modules. However, if this is some sort of HMI application, that's probably beyond what you can do with this sockets connection approach. You would then be back to finding an OPC server that works on Unix. Hope that helps. What's the kernel and hardware platform ? Just curious. The INTERCHANGE software package from Rockwell Software has editions that run on HP-UX, AIX, Digital Unix, and Solaris. I've heard that the HP-UX version works on Linux distributions, too. This is not an open-source product. The original Sourceforge project by Ron Gage has ended up as commercial projects sold by a software outfit calles LSN. http://lsn-us.com/html/products.html There are seven hits on SourceForge for allen-bradley. I have not used any of these personally. n"}
{"text": "### Human: View Alarm History on Panelview Component Does anyone know if the Panelview Component supports an Alarm History page? ### Assistant: EDIT: updated link for help files -FL Yes, it does... following is from inside Help files: Alarm history The alarm history stores alarms as they are triggered. Alarms that have logging disabled on the Alarms tab will not be logged to the alarm history. The alarm history is saved to nonvolatile or flash memory in the terminal so can be retained through a power cycle. The alarm history stores up to 100 alarms. The initial default is 50. You can: clear or retain the alarm history when the terminal restarts. change the size of the alarm history. export the alarm history log. Tip The Alarm List object is a list that displays alarms in the alarm history. When the operator acknowledges or clears alarms from the list, they are also acknowledged or cleared from the alarm history. Take a look to BF5864, and download the WebHelp files with all the explanations. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic #HL41 There is a tabular 'Alarm List' object that displays all of the alarms in the alarm history, and can be customized somewhat as far as what columns (Ack Status, Date/Time triggered, etc) are shown. You can create a screen and place one of these objects almost full-size to provide an 'Alarm History' page. This control does require up/down keys to be placed on touch terminals for navigation (can also use pg up/pg down, and home/end). The Enter key can also be used to acknowledge alarms via this control. The additional alarm button controls (ack all, clear all) can be used in conjunction as well. The number of rows in the PanelView Component alarm list object does not dictate the number of alarms in the history - you can have a history buffer of 100 (specified in the Alarms section of the designer), but a display object that only has 5 lines - you'll need to scroll to see them all. The Alarm History is a single queue of events - if you clear the queue, the alarm history object will then be blank (until more alarms come in), and if you export the alarm history file from the terminal, it will also be blank. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rockwell Software license control utility Hi All,I have recently been tasked with getting a grip on all of our Rockwell software licenses we are using in the plant. We have 250+ software licenses across who knows how many users. I would like to know who has what software installed, rev level, and if they are really using everything they have licenses for ( our licenses are primarily node locked) My first thought was to send out a mass email to everyone asking them to go through all of their software and email me back the info. But, is there some Rockwell utility that, when executed, would generate a printout of everything a user has installed, along with serial numbers, product catalog numbers, version number, and perhaps the last time the program was opened? This printout, perhaps in PDF format, could then be emailed back to me. Any other suggestions on how to get started would be appreciated. thanks,BJ ### Assistant: Nascar100, your distributor should be able to get you a list of all the software registered to your plant. We keep pretty good records of that. If you don't know your distributor, use our distributor locator to find them. Thanks Kurt.... I will start there. You may also want to look at Answer ID 25483 in the RA Knowledgebase, although the tool there will give you way more info. than just the installed Rockwell Software info. n"}
{"text": "### Human: rsview32 and rslinks version Dear alls, If we have to use direct drivers in rsview32 with SLC 5/03, will RSlinx lite version work or we have to use classic / professional version ? Please help. thanks ragni ### Assistant: You need a licensed version, at least RSLinx Classic OEM, as Single Node version doesn't support Direct Drivers.Take a look to the following screenshot.... C-API interfaces is needed for Direct Drivers to work. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Dear Sir,the problem is solved. lot of thanks. It will be great if you could let me know why and when we should use direct driver/opc/dde.thanks ragni There is an useful technote on that: Aid 7150 It explains the differances between the three communication methods. Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for your suggestion. 1. Sometimes when I access knowledgebase, i see answers locked. I have a toolkit and authorization number . It is also mentioined in profile but i donot know what else you require. 2. I have made some project in rsview32 using rslinks classic as you guided. It runs fine. Now when the client runs this on his pc, does he also require rslinx (licence version) or rslinx-lite will be sufficient besides rsview32-runtime? ragni 1. May you please post an AID number that you cannot reach ? 2. He will need a licensed version as your PC does.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic thanks for suggestion 1. For example , Aid 7150it says it is not available at this time ragni mmmhhh.. really it should be visible to you.... :smileysurprised: Call into the Technical Support center to speak with Contract Services.Advise your problem with this specific Aid, they will be able to check if it is all ok in your Authorization number and profile. If you have troubles to find the right contact, see at this link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/locations/ - fuzzy logic You should be all set now, Ragni. The problem was that your new toolkit contract hadn't cleared through the whole system, so the Knowledge Base thought you didn't have one and denied you access. I've manually fixed it all up, so you should be all set. JHutch Thanks now the l can see the locked answers ragni n"}
{"text": "### Human: Selection of SoftLogix 1789-L30 in RS 5000 I have a project for a SoftLogix 1789-L30 coming up. I would like to develop in a 1789-L60 since that license is in my Toolkit, and later convert to the L30. I found a reference to editing of the L5K file to convert platforms, but it will require a blank project configured in RS5000 for the L30; and my install won't let me select the L30 as a controller type (in any revision). I have revs 10 - 17 installed. Any recommendations for the above or other pitfalls I may encounter? Thanks,Bob P. ### Assistant: I don't think any SoftLogix except the 1769-L60 has ever been a controller type selection in RSLogix 5000, so you're not seeing anything unusual. I'd say do the development with the -L60 controller type, but restrict your I/O modules to the smaller capacity of the -L30 runtime license. I really don't think RSLogix 5000 checks the controller type with SoftLogix, but rather hands off the duty to the virtual backplane monitor. These are guesses; I have always used the -L60 both in development and runtime. I'm told by my distributor that the offline file developed for the L60 will download to the L30 just fine as long as I don't exceed the reduced capabilities as you suggest. It seems that the L60 is the only available choice in RSLogix, and that the SoftLogix will conform to whatever license is present in the same manner that RSLinx will run as Lite, or OEM, or Professional, based on the license it finds. Thanks for the reply! Bob P. Just to *reinforce* previous posts... see screenshot below, taken from SoftLogix5800 User Manual. It talks about the different products -L10, -L30 and -L60... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Sure, I could have read the User Manual. But guessing just keeps me flexible. I'm completely agree with you Ken... in fact always I guess...I guess which is the manual I need to solve my problems ! (I'm joking :smileytongue: ) :smileyvery-happy: :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Converting PLC-5/60 Program To PLC-5/40 Ethernet Problem. Using RSLogix5 to convert an existing PLC-5/60 program to a PLC-5/40 Ethernet processor, I randomly get ### Assistant: Shawn, try to attach some screenshots of your program to a new post... it may helps to understand your problem. In order to post an image, take your screenshot, save it as a .jpg file, reduce its size to accomodate in the forum post without problems (I think 500 pixels in width could be fine) and use Add Attachments on the right side of your new reply. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Toolkit and software with multiple users Hi All ! We are doing service at some custumers, using our toolkit licenses. Usualy we have Logix500, 5K and FTSE5.0 installed on custumers PC. How can different service guys use different dongles on same PC and applications ?As i understand the local .LIC file is locked to a specific dongle. Can software be used with multiple dongles ? Is it posibel using a USB key for licenses, paired with the USB dongle ? ### Assistant: Yes, the software can be used with multiple dongles. Steps: Get an activation for a service guy and use his dongle as HostIDManually copy the .lic file just created to each PC you need that USB dongle will activate the software (Aid 54553)Repeat the above for each service guy; you will have various .lic files on customer PC, so that every service guy will be able to use his dongle in it. A normal USB key will not work with FactoryTalk Activation. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: gv 3000 fault code F 3 not F03 any ideas I have a GV3000 where it starts up with F 3, F in the first 7 seg and 3 in the last flashing with every led at the same time.Tech support suggested the 15v rail for encoder... yes that is for a F03 fault. My 15v rail is ok along with all the other rails. No button presses / combination will do anything.A top panel from another larger drive will give me access but starts with the mismatch code for controller / power stage but would allow me to start the matching process but as this belongs to a different drive I cannot spare it.I suspect the memory is corrupted but unable to clear it.Any Ideas?Thanks in anticipationTim Smith ### Assistant: Did you already try what is suggested in the User Manual ? Attached is a screenshot of the indications.... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 70 electrical noise I am having a problem with electrical noise from the output of a pf70 that is affecting a metal detector in a food production line. The noise is being picked up on the coil of the detector and has been confirmed with an O'scope, it is preventing the detector from doing it's job. We have confided it's coming from the drive by wiring the motor directly to 480, 3 ph, 60 hz and the noise disappears. The pf70 is in the MCC about 250 ft away from the motor which is a Franklin Hydro Duty, 2.0 hp, 2.8 fla. the output wires are bundled with several others out of the MCC run through conduit, then branched off to the motor. The wires are not shielded. Thank you ### Assistant: I suggest (unless already done) to take a look to the following publication: Wiring and Grounding Guidelines I think it could be very useful to you for this issue... it contains: Wire and cable typesPower Distribution GuidanceGrounding InformationCable Routing InformationRefective wave description and effects of.Electromagnetic InterferenceBearing CurrentsMotor Cable Length Restrictions Tables Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I would pay particular attention to the cable lengths and it may be necessary to mitigate the reflected wave by adding the filters in the control panel. There are some that are added at the motor but I have seen it most effective at the drive end. Also, we have been successful at adjusting the carrier frequency of the drive (Par 151) which is default at 4kHz. Setting this lower helped reduce noise as well as run some older motors due to bearing failure. At any rate, if you use a mitigating filter, you will need to verify the voltage to the motor as it may be necessary to compensate for the drop in voltage; i.e. a 5% impedence filter will drop your voltage roughly....5%, etc. Kind of simplistic calc but go through the mfg. calcs for proper sizing and voltage drop. The publications FuzzyLogic lists is the best place to start. Since your wiring is in conduit, make sure all conduit and cable tray, as well as the MCC is grounded TOGETHER to the same ground grid. This last part will drive you insane if not careful. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Interface to Micro Motion Flow Meter with CompactLogix L32E? I am looking for a good way to interface with Micro Motion Elite flow meters to monitor status and possibly modify parameters. They use MODBUS communications. I need to know what possible hardware may be required and how I may be able to view this with RSView32.Thanks! ### Assistant: John, hope to have correctly understood your request... In order to connect your device to CompactLogix using modbus (serial ?!) you have basically two options: Using serial port of your controller, if free, following the sample program from Aid 42662 and also the manual in the LINK.Using a Modbus module made by Prosoft (MVI69-MCM) Then, you may access the informations you need using RSView32 simply *searching* inside Controller tags. - fuzzy logic I understand there is also the 1769-SM2 that can be configured for MODBUS. MODBUS is RS485 not RS232. I'm still looking into options, but appreciate the feedback.Thanks,John n"}
{"text": "### Human: Need Battery Backup in AB VFD Dear Sir,One of our customer need battery backup in VFD (DC) Rating is 2.2KW, Please suggest the Model and Wiring Diagram to connect the same. Kind Regards Shashi Bhushan Chauhan ### Assistant: May you please post the complete catalog # for your drive ? It will help... :smileytongue: Anyway, if you're *talking* about PF700S, take a look to Aid 42630. - fuzzy logic Fuzzy as far as i am concerned battery back up is in terms of dc bus supply of our drives.It has nothing to do with drive logix processor battery.:smileytongue:i dont think our drives support dc power back up. i have PF70 Series VFD and i want run on battery backup when mains supply fails. Seems more info is needed. How long do you want to run on battery? Is the drive using a common bus DC supply or AC? If the drive is a 2.2kW then add about 10% for heat and drive losses. Dear Sir,We will consider 10% power loss in 2.2 Kw , we will select 3 kw for the same. Drive will use in DC bus supply when power is gone, its maximum 8 hours, we will select battery for the same. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS Emulator can support hi fellowsi want to use rs emulator with rslogix 5000and rsstand lite version.i want to use thumb wheel as integer value and compare it in rslogix can emulator support it?if any one have example how to use thes console devices guide methanks ### Assistant: Yes, it is supported... you have to use RSLinx as OPC server to work with it... Take a look to the Getting Results guide. It may helps....:smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Moving activations Previously we were using Evmove etc to change key from one laptop to another depending on the requirement of field engineers. But from this year, we have to use FTActivations which I am finding little confusing. We have installed the new Toolkit in our office PC. I can see the keys in the current activations. Now if I have to move one key to the PC installed at another location what should I do? 1. Is it possible to move the activations to USB and move/transfer/borrow activations to another PC without internet / network connection ? I have tried to go thru various articles in knowledgebase but feel uncomfortable for risk of loosing keys as experienced by some users. Please suggest. thanks ragni ### Assistant: New FactoryTalk Activation is quite different than old Evmove… a normal USB memory card will not work as you want. A good way to move the activation frequently is to use a Dongle; it plugs into the USB port of a computer. However, you can only run the software from the computer the dongle is plugged into. The dongle has a unique host ID that an activation file can be tied to. It has no storage capacity. Or you may use, where applicable, the Borrow feature. Instead, the procedure called Rehost, is not intended for moving activations frequently. It is intended to be used only for unexpected or infrequent events such as a computer upgrade or failure, or a change to the system and has some limitations. I may suggest some technotes and also useful videos that show how to use FactoryTalk Activation. Aid 35560 How to move a FactoryTalk ActivationAid 44620 Rehost ActivationsAid 57917 FactoryTalk Activation Toolkit FAQAid 35251 FactoryTalk Activation FAQFactoryTalk Activation Quick start videos Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Well........let me be specific.we have one toolkit 2009 which we have installed in our pc tied to lan card.when one of our service guy wants to use his laptop for rslogix 500,assume, then can he borrow the activation or not so that he does his job. Or for that matter, can different laptops use different activations of toolkit separately. 2 Borrowing: as seems from the video, when the laptop is connected to network,-do we have to run ftactivation client or server?-requirement of internet? ragni The activation can be borrowed for the service guy. If your FTA has been already downloaded and tied to your server, you don't need an internet connection in order to borrow licenses to laptops. The FactoryTalk Activation Server is the recommended tool to install, especially for toolkit activations because it CAN BE CONSIDERED for ANY application due to the fact that it will act as a server or a client. It will not work if the user does not have administrative rights to run the service, in which case the client tool must be installed. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic As suggested when i connect laptop to the server, install fta server on the laptop and change the setting to ip of desktop and refresh to see the current activations, it shows refreshing and then shows no activations..........i am missing somethings somewhere. On the desktop, where i downloaded toolkit with local lan card as host id, i can see the activations. ragni Double check the activation server has been started on server PC.Then follow instructions in the online help using help button from inside Settings Tab of FactoryTalk Activation Tool.There you may check if your path to server and port@ are correctly specified for your client. See also Aid 29324 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700VC and PF700H output current at 50 degree C Hi, What will be the output current of following drives at 50 degree C. As these drives rating given based on 40 degree C what will be the derating factor to be applied.? PF700VC : 20BC535A3, 20BC535N3, PF700H : 20BC730A0 ### Assistant: All the informations you need in the following publications: PF70 / 700 Reference Manual (search for Derating) PF700H Technical Data Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I've just seen the power of PF700VC for which you need infos... it isn't in the suggested pubblication above...:smileytongue: Here the right LINK. - fuzzy logic In the Reference manual the derating not mentioned for high rating drives. And from the graphs also we can't exactly find out the 50 degree amp.Also in the Frame7-10 installation instruction manual , the derating is mentioned for 2KHz, 4Khz, etc. But it is shown at 40 degree C . I want to know about the 50 degre ambient. Be aware that frame 7-10 have a max surrounding air temperature of 40 degrees... only frame 0-6 are rated for max. 50 degrees... That means that you can't operate the drive at 50 degrees using PWM higher than 4 kHz...and if you use it at 40 degrees and with a PWM of 8 kHz you will have only the 90% of the rated current available. I understand that graphs are not so precise in showing the current value, it should be only a reference guideline where you may find that you may have for example 95% of the rated current running the drive at 8kHz PWM and with 37.5 degrees.... :smileywink: Hope this clarifies.... - fuzzy logic Drive will be operated at 2KHz Frequency only.There is derating at 50 degree C and inseatd of 535Amp output of Drive will be at reduced current.I want to know how much continuous current will be at 50degree C. As you can see in the graphs below, there isn't derate at that PWM frequency with your drive using it at 50 degrees... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 180 Powerflex 700VC part number I need a 180Amp PFlex 700 type 1 with external HIM. I need 24V inputs and all the analog outputs available. I need 2 N.O. relay outputs and no communication modules. No braking resistors. Can someone help with this part number. I have this part number (20BD180A3ANNANC0)but not sure if this has an external HIM with it. If I need a seperate part number for the external HIM, can you please give me this. It will need a long cable between the drive and external HIM. Thank you. ### Assistant: CRAIG_1, your part number has the on board LCD, not an external one. I may suggest to navigate this LINK, where you may find a configurator, to understand your part number. Anyway, the external HIM isn't available as a Factory Installed Option in that drive...I mean you need a separate part number. If you need a Panel Mount option, the cat. number is 20-HIM-C3S (it includes a 3 meters cable to connect to drive).If you need an Handheld HIM, then you may use the one already installed over your drive (that is a 20-HIM-A3) and a 20-HIM-H10 (1 meter cable) plus a 1202-Hxx to get a distances up to 10 meters. Take a look at pubblication in the link below, at page 8 you may find what I've just summarized above. PF700 Technical Data Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Borrowing Activations without connecting to the local activation server? Hello all. Well we finally got everything figured out with our activations. We are now running a local activation server where we have 10 seats of our toolkit. 6 of these activations will be borrowed for the full 400 days. We want to use the other 4 activations to let our outside contractors borrow them for a short period of time when they do work for us. Is there any way that we can give them a borrowed activation without having them hook up to our network and access the activation server? Our corporate IS guys are have a big security issue with letting an outside contractor hook into our network. Can this be transferred over a USB dongle? We opted not to purchase the Rockwell dongles because if they walk off with it, then we would lose that activation forever. Any ideas? ### Assistant: Unfortunately the only way to borrow an activation is to connect to the same network as the Activation server. :smileysad:And also the only way I see is to use Rockwell USB Dongle as HostID, to tie the 4 activations you need to give to outside contractors... if you have already installed them also to the server, you may need to rehost the 4 licenses to the USB dongle.. - fuzzy logic Grrrr! Thanks for confirming my fears Fuzzy. I am sure I am an not the first person to raise this concern. Can anyone up there at RA tell me if something is in the works to solve this? I am not with Rockwell but could you not have a computer – nothing big or fancy – separate from your main network for this purpose? It could even be some laptop or desktop that has been gathering dust in the corner. Place activation server on it and attach the 4 extra licenses to it. When they need a license they can direct wire to it and borrow one. This keeps the contractors off the network but still allows for them to borrow licenses to do their work. Yeah, I think this is what we might end up doing for now. Just another machine to keep up and running though. ;) Well, for lack of a better solution I am going to go ahead and close this thread. Thanks for the help guys. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 700H fault 71 My PF 700H faults with a code 71. It faults the drive when this happens. According to the manual it is a Periph Loss. How do I stop this from faulting the drive and where is the fault coming from? ### Assistant: Kathy, that fault is on the network side of your communication module... which is the catalog number for your comm. module ? I mean which is the network type you're using... Anyway, you may look inside its Event queue... you may access this from your LCD HIM... Main menu, Device Select, select your adapter and go to Diagnostic, then Events and View Event Queue. Inside the user manual for your comm module, you may find a list of events, and this could clarify your issue. It is better to find out which is the cause of the fault and remove it if possible, rather than use the Comm Fault Action parameter 21 to avoid the Periph. Loss stops the drive... it could be dangerous. Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: I/O configration hii create a small project in rslogix 5000.i develop the console by using rs stand lite with push buttons and other components.i use rs emulator for my project.but i confuse on I/O configration.plz help on this issu may i add input /output module in emulator chasis or without this connect directly with rs stand lite? Tags r associated with source but i am not clear how?thanks ### Assistant: You have to connect to the Emulator processor using OPC server (RSLinx).Create a Topic in it , and then you may browse for the tags in the controller. Take a look to the Getting Results guide. It may helps.... - fuzzy logic thanks for reply so i understand there is no need for I/O configration in rslogix 5000 and no need to add module in emultaor chasis am i right?thanks It is correct... you can directly point out the tags in your emulator controller from various RSTestStand objects. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rslinx enterprise communication setup error msg. Whenever I open the communication setup in studio (cpr 9) on a distributed project I get the following message. After 30-45 seconds I can press retry and make changes but a few seconds later I get the same message again. Anyone seen this before? ### Assistant: It almost sounds like it's timing out on a function call (obviously not an important one if you can still make changes). Can you see any application/service in Task Manager that's consuming more processing power than it should when it's in that Switch To state? (I hate Switch Tos) There's also a good Sysinternals tool for watching what's running on your server (more indepth than Task Manager). Process Explorer What's the EventLog look like? -Mark www.theAPAKGroup.com I'm not seeing anything abnormal in the task manager. Ofcourse rslinx takes up alot of rescources but only for a second and then everything is quiet. I checked the eventlog and found these errors. The time matches the startup of my laptop. No errors on the time I open the communication setup Take a look to Aid 23153, it threats a similar error message... - fuzzy logic The Aid 23153 looks a little like the problem I have but not quite. I can open and create new applications. And the error messages in the eventlog doesen't repeat. It only shows that one time on startup of laptop This might be a silly question, but are you an administrator of your laptop or computer that's hosting SE? No silly questions here :-). Yes I am an administrator on my laptop and on the HMI server also I think fuzzy logic might be on to something with the DCOM/Firewall settings. I found another article that was similar.Aid 33600I've found before little security setting gotchas that don't make sense, but fix the problem because the root cause is often hidden. Does Studio work just fine locally on the HMI Server? If so, I'd definitly target the DCOM settings. -Mark www.theAPAKGroup.com n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus 700 Ethernet IP to ControlLogix L62 via IO Configuration. I have a working application (dozens of screens) that I want to add the IO Configuration of the Panelview to the 1756L62 but all I get is Connection Request Error: Invalid Segment Type (Code 16 ### Assistant: You don't need to add the PVP to the I/O tree of your plc... :smileysurprised: The Panelview Plus communicates directly to the PLC without the needs to be inserted in I/O tree as normal I/O does... the comm. configuration has to be done in FactoryTalk View Studio. So, remove it from I/O Configuration, to correctly configure your system. :smileytongue: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Fuzzy is right. The design logic is this: The I/O tree is for comms you want the processor to control/initiate. Other than scheduled controlnet, the PV+ initiates all comms. By putting the PV+ in the tree, you're trying to have both devices control comms. And just like in my marriage, when two of us are trying to direct things, it doesn't work right. So, I let my wife run the house and the ControlLogix lets the PV+ run the comms. In both cases, it's just safer that way. ;) JHutch Very very nice practical explanation JHutch ! It applies to me, too !!!! :smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Versa View 1500 M Operator Display and Versa View 200 R Connectivity Problems Hi Everyone We are looking fo some help and thought we could find some answers here. We are experiencing some difficulties between a Versa View 1500M display and Versa View 200 R processor. It seems that the touch display becomes sluggish to response, when a new mer file is started it is very slow to respond, required 5 re-boots to get it to respond correctly, languages couldn't be toggled and log in would work. Does anyone have any suggestions that could help us figure out what would cause this. Thanks Nick ### Assistant: Need more information such as:1. Touchscreen connection to computer - RS232 or USB2. Have you tried to unplug touchscreen cable and just plug regular mouse (better to use PS/2). If application still respond not the way you are expacting, then something in application cause this issue. At this point touchscreen driver not even loaded.3. When you speaking about Monitor and Computer, the best is to provide full catalog number and Series/Revision of device. Regards n"}
{"text": "### Human: project rsview 32 in panel builder Hi thank for your last help, when i was comunicating a SLC with a Controllogix. Now i have another question, could i open a rsview 32 project in panel builder? Regards. ### Assistant: Unfortunately it isn't possible. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix5000 in RSView32 RSLadder 5 and 500 allow you to embed ladder logic in an RSView32 graphic. Is there a similar product for Logix5000? ### Assistant: Unfortunately this is not available. :smileysad: I think only workaround is to use AppStart command to launch RSLogix5000, but as an external application... and only if you have an RSLogix5000 installed there... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Figures. Thanks for the info. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Selecting Printers I wish to select different printers in TFView SE at run time when printing displays. Can anyone help ### Assistant: Yes, it is possible using VBA code, to interact with Windows Script Host. All what is needed to realize it, is inside technote 33865. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Get a Trend to Automatically Display Current Data on Display Opening Hi, with a PanelView + 1000 (latest CPR 9 firmware upgraded). When I open a display with a trend (including data log modelling) I have to push the end button associated with it to get it to display current live data (and historical log data).All this works fine but is there a way to get the trend to display the current and live data (and historical log data) with out having to push the end button? I have tried to set the start date on the x-axis tab of the trend set up interface to dates in the past and future but no luck. – its opens at those dates. Can I get a macro to do it on the opening of the display? I just want to see if I can make it a fraction more user friendly by forcing it to display the most current and trailing historical data when the display is opened. Fussy I know - but sounds like a simple and logical request.Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: That's strange, because is a normal behavior the trend displays the current data...then you may scroll to see historical values and press End to return to actual... :smileysurprised: Did you test your application using the FactoryTalk View Studio Test Application ? Do you have the same issue? If you want, I may give a look to your application to see if something strange inside Trend or Datalog... In case, tell me, and I will PM in the forum my e-mail address. - fuzzy logic On the display tab of the trend the scrolling tick box was not ticked, ticking this and leaving the associated drop down continuous scroll seems to get the trend to open at current date & time. Ah, ok ! I've not mentioned this because it is the default setting when you add a new Trend Object to your display....Of course it is needed to have the trend chart continually updates with new data at runtime.I've not considered that you've done some tests and maybe removed the flag from there.... Well, anyway it works... happy for this ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView 32 Multiple Alarm Windows Is there the capability to have separate alarm windows for different areas of a system in RSView? For example, I would like to have alarms for Machine A show up in one alarm window; and alarms for Machine B show up in a different alarm window. Thanks! ### Assistant: You may try this using Alarm Filtering. Take a look to the User Manual (starting at page 6-34) to see which is the filter that best applies to your needs.So that you may use two Alarm Summary objects and differently filter what is displayed. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: power cable high flex for the MPL-B880D-MJ22AA I have found the standard flex power cable for the MPL-B880D-MJ22AA servo motor. What is the part number to order high flex instaed of non-flex power cable? Standard power cable part number 2090-XXNPMP8S03. THANK-YOU ### Assistant: The part number you need is : 2090-XXTPMP-8S03 You may find this information on the Motion Selection Guide, page 396. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 5/03 Fault Code 002h? Hi all, On a new installation of a SLC 5/03 processor, I wanted to be sure of the integrity of the program in the processor. After uploading the program to the PC and saving it, I then tried to download the original program into the processor. When I tried to download the new program, the status bar completed but then a message popped up saying Download Failed! Download Complete Failed! and then the processor entered into a fault mode. When I tried to upload the program from the processor again, it said that there was no program present and the processor was in Default/Faulted mode. I took the processor out and put it into another rack on another machine and used the DTAM to clear the fault. I also downloaded the program to the processor with a separate laptop. Returning to the original machine I was able to put the processor in run mode and access it. Again I wanted to modify the program on the CPU, however, again when I tried to download to the CPU it faulted out and was unable to put the processor in any kind of mode. Is there any way to clear the fault without using a separate DTAM? Is there anyway to prevent this fault from occurring every time I download? Thanks a lot for any help. ### Assistant: It seems to be a project corruption...take a look to Aid 9119 and try the Solution #2.... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MTBF and MTTR Hi, I'm looking for the mean time b/w failure and mean time to recover of :+ 1785-BCM (back up comm. module)+ 1771-P5 (power supply)+ 1771-ASB (remote I/O)+ 1771-IVN+ 1771-OVN+ 1771-A4B I've tried to google / search on AB site but I couldn't find any spec sheet that mention those.If you have an answer, please also post a link to the source. I will help me alot in the future. Thanks alot, ### Assistant: Those informations are not on a public site... :smileysad: You have to call in Rockwell Tech Support and they will pass you the requested infos. Otherwise, if you want I may send you a Private Message in the Forum with the data. Up to you.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy logic. I just sent you a private msg w/ my email address. n"}
{"text": "### Human: factory talk activation key for softlogix 5860 I just installed the softlogix controller on my pc. But I am not sure which activation key I need to borrow from the factory talk activation tool CPR 9. ### Assistant: SoftLogix activation Product Key-Code is sftlgx58.60 If you're talking about Toolkit activation, take in consideration the following: Softlogix v17 Currently is supported with NODE-LOCKED FactoryTalk Activation . Toolkit Activations are being released with the Concurrent FactoryTalk Activation. In that case, follow the instructions in Aid 58353 to activate your software. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic The file found in the factory talk server does not work because softlogix is the odd man out software that still needs node locked activation. I finally managed to get a activation file from the IT guys and used the EVMove to move activation to my c: drive. It works now. Thanks Sri n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus Configuration Mode problem I recently purchased two Panelview Plus 15 HMI's through ebay for use on a project. One went right to the configuration mode screen and was pretty easy to download my application. The other already contained an application that was set to run on startup. There is no Goto configure mode button on any screen. The User Guide informs me that you can't get to the screen without a programmed button. I have tried to set up communications to upload the program, add a button, then re-download, but ethernet won't come up and I can't get the serial port to communicate either. Is there some other trick I can try to get to this configure mode screen? ### Assistant: Attach a USB keyboard and press these 4 buttons: Shift + CTRL + Windows button + AltIt will popup the task manager like in Windows. Then you can just close the application and it will go to config mode. Hope this helps... Thank you Jamy. Your method worked. You saved me more hours of frustration.Whoops! I'm new to this forum and accidently marked this post as the solution. That's no problem, the solution is not so far away if you click Go to solution :smileyvery-happy: Through the magic wand they gave me when I became a moderator ... the accepted solution has been moved to the right place! :) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: ml1400/panelview plus comm problem I'm having problems trying to get a panelview 600 to communicate with amicrologix 1400 l32BXBA. I can run my application using the Test Applicationbutton in Factorytalk view studio ME, but when I download the mer file to the panelviewI get the error Problem writing value '0' to item ::[ml1400]b3_0_0The panelview, PLC, and laptop are connected thru an Ethernet switch. Not surewhat to try next. ### Assistant: Within RSLinx Enterprise>Communication Setup - The design [local]” is correct because it works in development mode (test app.) but have you configured / checked the run time [target] is set up correctly? The laptop & PLC ip config must be right for it to work in test mode, is the PVP ip set up correctly i.e. ip range, subnet etc? Have you ticked replace comms when downloading to up date your comms config. Try a reboot of the panel & make sure replace comms is selected on the PVP set up screens. Once you get through the teething bugs with comms set up it's fairly reliable. Good luck! Yes, the replace RSLinx Ent. comm is checked. I am using the following IP addresses: laptop...192.168.1.200 Micro....192.168.1.201 PVP......192.168.1.202 the subnet for all is 255.255.255.0 I left the gateway at 0.0.0.0 in the PVP From the laptop I can PING both the PVP and PLC It just seems that the pl1400 and PVP don't want to talk. Are there any settings in the ml1400 besides what was mentioned that I should look at? OK, IP stuff looks good. Is replace communications ticked in the transfer utility app. when you transfer the .mer file? Again is the runtime target correct, remake the shortcut when you click on it does the target highlight in gray? Long shot - I haven't used 1400 -> PVP before have you got the latest firmware in the PVP. Take a look at ID 57549 This is a very important document for comms between ML1400 and PVPIt talks about the last sentence from 69FIREBIRD in previous post. Thanks everyone for the help. Upgrading the PVP firmware did the trick n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus Ethernet I/P IO Configuration I want to add the IO Configuration of the Panelview to the 1756L62 but all I get is Connection Request Error: Invalid Segment Type (Code 16 ### Assistant: Sorry, but the PV+ can't do that. With a PV+, it initiates all comms so entering it in the I/O tree will always generate the error. That said, the PV+ will only ask for a tag when it NEEDS to ask for a tag, so it's already basically as efficient as it can get. What usually trips people up is that HMI devices are often asking for a LOT more data than other devices, so a network can go from fine to slow with the addition of just one PV+ in some cases. JHutch What can you do with the Panelview in the IO Config tree, it can't have been put there by accident! PanelView in the IO Configuration is used for the Scheduled communication over ControlNet.That's why you are able to configure a PV in the IO config. Jamy is right. There *are* instances where the PV+ will go in the I/O tree (rare, but instances). However, none of them exist when you're talking Ethernet as the comms protocol. JHutch Good to know, thanks!!! Maybe we could get our wonderful super duper programming friends at Rockwell to take it off of the list of devices that can connect to a 1756-ENBT card, and save some people time. Much Thanks! Just a note, guys..... Take a look to the attached screenshot; as you can see, using Controlnet in RSLogix5000 you have the possibility to select both Panelview Standard and Panelview Plus Scheduled comms Using Ethernet/IP, you may only select STANDARD Ethernet/IP Panelview ! :smileysurprised:PanelviewPlus is not mentioned in hardware list !So, the Ethernet/IP panelview you see, is a Standard one, that may use Assembly objects to talk to ethernet CLX. Here a list of technotes: Aid 32637 about PanelviewPlus scheduled Cnet - CLXAid 18080 about Panelview Standard scheduled Cnet - CLXAid 21888 about Panelview STANDARD ethernet/ip - CLX I may be agree with you, the Ethernet/IP Panelview description in the Module Selection list could be not so clear.... maybe useful to add the word 'standard' to avoid misunderstanding... :smileywink: Hope this helps to clarify... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: drives software - hey guys, I am pretty new to the AB world. I have a solid understanding of drives but with DanFoss and Tele software was basic and straight forward. I am getting lost in the Rockwell world, no idea when or why you would use Linx. When you choose Observer over DriveExplorer or Executive or Lite. Tools etc etc. Does anyone know of a decent link/chart explaining the function and application of each? I would love some online turorials to figure out exactly what I may need. Any guidance would be great.......thanks a bunch ### Assistant: Here an useful document that may clarify, helping to compare software products for drives.... http://www.ab.com/drives/drivetools/software-comparison.pdf Also take a look to the following link: http://www.ab.com/drives/software.html Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: commuication between RSlogix5000 and factory talk i am nt been able to communicate my RsSlogix 5000 enterprice with factory talk. i am in run mode using emulator. and i am using rslinx classic 2.5. i do not know how to set parameters ### Assistant: If I've well understood, you need to communicate FactoryTalk View (ME / SE ?!)with an RSLogix Emulate 5000 processor... Here a list of technotes that may help : Aid 32335Aid 43887Aid 29868 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000 cables Does anyone know if high flex cables are made for the Ultra 3000 Servos? ### Assistant: Yes, of course...you may find all the informations you need about continuous-flex cables on the Motion Selection Guide, at chapter 10, starting from page 264 and more specifically for Ultra 3000 starting at page 441 in chapter 11 (here you may search for the drive/motor cable combination you need) Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView Studio Me Edition - unable to save tag database error Hello When I load an application that I developed, and try to test it, I get error  unable to save tag database and the application does not continue to test. I am running version 4 of the software. I developed this application (as a version 4) a while back and it worked fine during testing. I had not tried it for awhile and when I finally did the error above happened. Does anyone have an idea what I should do? ### Assistant: agt, there are various issues to which this error is related... there is also an useful technote on it, that may solve your problem. Aid 28058 Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy Thanks again! It had been awhile since I used RSView Studio. You are right about this issue. I hope that the latest version of RSView Studio fixes this problem. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Raplacement for 140-MN Circuit Breaker Due to 140-MN circuit breaker is obsolete, is 140M-C2E-C10 the suitable replacement for 140-MN-1000 and 140M-C2E-C25 for 140-MN-2500? If not, please recommend. ### Assistant: According to ID 55852 you are correct.These are the exact replacements for those circuit breakers. But when you replace, you have to replace the accessory because they are difference about accessory n"}
{"text": "### Human: The difference between 1746-HSCE2 Class 1 and Class 4 in I/O configuration of RSLogix500 In I/O configuration of RSLogix 500, I found that:-1746-HSCE2 High Speed Counter Class 1-1746-HSCE2 High Speed Counter Class 4Please help to advise the difference. I want to configure for 1746-HSCE2, which configuration I should choose, Class 1 or Class 4 ? ### Assistant: RiverVN, take a look to the attached screenshot; it has been taken from HSCE2 User Manual. Basically, Class 1 has to be used when you have old SLC processors (or in a remote RIO chassis), and it has been made to be compatible with them. If you have a newer processor, it is better to use Class 4 to get full functionality. There are many examples and quick start documents in Knowledgebase, use hsce2 class as keyword. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: AC driver 3.7KW can use for motor 4KW I have an AC drive 3.7KW. Can it use for motor 4kW ? ### Assistant: RiverVN, normally this is not possible, because the motor is bigger size than drive... just check the FLA current the motor needs, and verify if the drive could supply it. I suggest to go with 4 Kw drive, to better manage intermittent overload, and also start-up current. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Files in CompactLogix that can be read by SLC's Hi all, What is required in the CompactLogix program to push data into registers that can be read by SLC500's? For instance, i wish to create an N104:0/0 type register within the CompactLogix that I can use within an SLC system via a network. Many thanks. Chris. ### Assistant: If I've correctly understood you needs.... :smileytongue:You need to realize a read message in a SLC controller to get data from a ControlLogix.... Then, you need to Map tags in ControlLogix for PLC/SLC messages... See Aid 7355.... and also Aid 3700 as an example of message read.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SFC_STOP doesn't restart when the SFC has been reset. In the attached program, wich is very simple, I've simulated the included SFC, wich is nothing more a Mainroutine in ladder that uses a JSR to call a SFC program and a SFR to reset it.The SFC just has 2 steps that wait 2000 ms/each and then it stops. The problem come when the program is downloaded to a RSLogix5000 Emulate (17.00.00 (CPR 9 SR 1)). When I execute the SFC it goes ok and reaches to the Stop point in 4 secs more or less, but when I reset the SFC and then call it again, the Stop point seems to remain active, and the initial step too. This doesn't happen if I reset the SFC when it is in an intermediate step: when resetting the SFC and calling it again, the only active step is the initial step. program in rslogix5000 v16==> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I9BNS9WH captured screen with an active step and showing the stop state also active ==> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0L2AYPKP ### Assistant: This is a normal behavior.... :smileysurprised: Take a look to SFC Programming Manual, starting from page 46; here is shown the STOP usage and the reset of .X bit related to the status of the STOP element when using a SFR instruction. That bit isn't automatically reset in your case, and it is shown as done. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 works 7.4.00 CPR 9 -- how to display a string tag on the alarm screen This is how I have defined the alarm message in the tag data base: Robot Crash Detected BAS ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't this possibility using RSView32... embedded variables are not supported.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-ENBT - version Whilst configuring an 1756-ENBT-A module in a ControlLgix application you can set/configure the major and minor version. Are they related with the module and/or firmware version? What are the consequences if they are configured differently?thanks ### Assistant: The major revision is used to indicate the revision of the interface to the module.The minor revision is used to indicate the firmware revision. Take a look to the RSLogix5000 online Help, pressing the Help button from inside ENBT Module Configuration; there you may find the meaning of all the selections you have for Electronic Keying. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: communicating to a micrologix 1100 with a modem. i cannot see the micrologix 110 in rslinx when using a modem. any ideas thanks ### Assistant: It could be useful to add some supplementary infos.... Do you *see* it in RSLinx when connected serially ? Which is RSLinx version?Which is the modem do you use ?And which is the cable do you use to connect it to the PLC ?May you post or attach a screenshot with Micrologix serial port settings and RSLinx driver settings ? Sorry for all this questions, but this may help to try to answer... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Line noise is sometimes an issue. The usual reason is the modem isnt configured probably (usually handshaking settings) or the Micrologix' channel isnt set properly. With a Rockwell 9300-RADKIT you dont need to do any configuration, the modem is already pre-configured. You dont even need to figure out which cable to use, the modem comes with the appropriate cables for all PLC's. All you might have to do is configure your Micrologix' channel and your RSLinx DF1 driver. You can dial out using any modem of reasonable quality. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix1500 timers Does the Micrologix series have the retentive timers? Thanks. ### Assistant: Yes, to use a timer as retentive, you have to use RTO instruction....all the timers in the controller could become retentive.You have in this case only Timer ON delay, as retentive. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk Me 5.0 CPR9 installation I can't get software installed, it always gives me a 1720 error. Tech support has not been able to resolve my issue. I am using HP compaq computer. I can install it on a freshly restored unit but can't install on Older units. Any ideas as to where to look in the registry for the problem? ### Assistant: Here a technote that could help to solve your issue.... Aid 21780 It is a Windows Installer Package error, try the solution that *best adapts* to your situation... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic In order to enhance Forum's contributors reputation, please rate the replies you got and remember to close the thread clicking Choose as Best Answer button over the solving answer. Thanks ! What OS are you using on the machine?Any other programming software installed? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Configuring WAGO 750-341 Ethernet/IP Module for Use in RSLogix5000 I need to connect my 1756-ENBT module to a Wago 750-341 Ethernet/IP module for their modular I/O system. There are four (4) individual I/O banks, each bank containing five (5) Wago 750-559 four channel analog output modules. I have scoured the Wago documentation for the information I need but it is written in Germenglish and is not exactly transparent. I would assume that I would have to select a Generic ETHERNET-MODULE in the RSLogix5000 software in order to put one of these devices on my Ethernet/IP network. The questions I have are: What is the Comm Format that I need to use?What are the Assembly Instances and Data Sizes for the Input, Output, and Configuration entries? Does anyone have any experience with these devices and can they help shed some light on them? ### Assistant: Take a look to the manual in the LINK. Follow the instructions to create a Generic Ethernet/IP device, Comm format should be Data - SINT, Input Assembly 107, Output Assembly 101, Config. Assembly 1 If you want to use an Output Only configuration (you say you've only Analog Output Modules), you may configure it as follow: Data - SINT, Input Assembly 104, Output Assembly 101, Config. Assembly 1 Input and Output Size is based on the I/O harware you install in your remote system, Configuration size is always 1. Using Output Only, Input size = 1 (status), Output Size = 40 (2 bytes x 4 channel x 5 modules) See also the Analog Module User Manual for further infos. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Exactly what I was looking for! Many thanks! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View SE unamed file has bad format after project is restored Hello, Here is my situation. I have a Factory Talk SE distributed application that I devloped on my development PC. I manually copied the project to my Server, and on the sever I had made several changes to the project. Then using the HMI Backup Restore Utility, I created a backup of the project, and restored it on my development machine. Now, when I attempted to open one of the display graphics I get the message Unamed File has bad format. However, my HMI Tag database, and global object graphics open fine. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks. ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 54627 and solution in Aid 55416...it seems related to your issue.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks! Not sure how I overlooked that one! The sever machine had newer patches than my development machine. Updated the development machine, and problem solved. Wow, I'm glad that is solved ! :smileyhappy: Regards, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-IF4I Over Controlnet with Logix Processor problem. I have a system with a Contrologix L61 processor. I have a flex I/O drop using a 1794-ACN. The remote drop has 4 Discret Input modules and I 1794-IF4I. I configured the network using RSNetworx, and I am receiving the discret input correctly. However, I am not receiving any Analog data, and the OK indicator is flashig green on the 1794-IF4I. I do have the 24VDC field power connected to the module, and the .FieldPowerOff is set to 0. However, the .Powerup is set to 1, which if I understand correctly is an indication that the module has not been configured. The configuration words for the module are not zero, and I have selected the configuration for the card in the modules properties. I am sure this is a basic question, but I have been unable to locate any explicit information on using the module with the contrologix processor. I am assuming that I do not need to use any Block Transfer insturction to configure the module or recieve it's data? Thanks for any help. ### Assistant: Take a look to technotes Aid 32245 and Aid 39190 in order to understand which is the condition that makes the ok Led flash green... You don't need Block Tranfer for sure ! :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Technote 39190 has the statement. The correct Terminal base units are: 1794-TB2, 1794-TB3, 1794-TB3S, 1794-TB3T and 1794-TB3TS However, if you look at the installation instruction for the module, it shows a wiring diagram for a 1794-TBN. I am wondering if the -TBN is acceptable or not? If it is not that is my problem as I am using the the -TBN base. Hmmm. In effect Selection Guide and installation instructions state -TBN is ok for the module... Check the other technote... did you toggle the IC bit ? - fuzzy logic Yes, I did toggle the IC bit, and the .powerup bit never did clear, which I am assuming indicates that it never received a valid configuration. The technote did refer to the 14th bit being set to one, but the way the controlgix processor maps out the config an status, it doesn't appear to be listed in the module tags. One more question: Is it all ok in I/O tree of Controllogix ? I mean no yellow triangles, no errors on modules.... Also, may be stupid observation but... double check the connector connection under that module's base( I mean the bus connection) ... sometimes the little pins are folded inside.... - fuzzy logic Yes, everything looks ok in the I/O tree no yellow triangles. RSNetworx for controlnet sees that card ok as well. I will have to double check the pins the next time I am onsite. Thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Worst Fears Realized For years I've used the EVMove copy protection without problem. But this year Rockwell forced the integrators to go to the FactoryTalk protection. I get why, so I play along (like I have a choice). On Friday, I'm editing my RSLogix programs (5, 500, and 5000), on line with our network. Everything normal. Last month, I borrowed the licenses (RSLgx5P, RS500P, RS5K_700, etc) <rant> Can't Rockwell give these names in ENGLISH !!!! </rant>)and never even noticed the expiration of my EVMove licenses. All's well with the world. Go to client site on this past weekend. No network, no internet, limited cell phone signal. RSLogix 5000 works,RSLogix 500 works. RSLogix gives me Unexpected error from activation system error 2. Check FactoryTalk Activation. Yep, there's RSLgx5.EXECheck Diagnostic Viewer. Yep, there's where I booted my laptop, and RSLinx got it's license. Yep, there's where I fired up 500 and 5000. And there's the error. This is exactly the sort of situation that I was afraid that I'd be in. No software.and no help. Thank God I still had my EVMove license, and could roll back the PC clock to where it wasn't expired. The RSLgx5.EXE worked with the (old) EVMove license. But for some reason (and that's what I'm looking for in this post), RSLogix 5 can't find the borrowed FactoryTalk license on my laptop. RSLogix 5 can find it on our network just fine (although I don't KNOW that it's using (up) the network license instead of the checked out one). But for some reason, it can't find a legit license on my laptop. How do I fix this? õ¿õ¬ ### Assistant: Wow, I can understand your feeling Allen ! :smileysurprised: Anyway, my collegue has had the same issue at customer site... you have to call in Rockwell Tech Support as they have a solution... something to deal with activation file that has to be modified.... Good Luck ! ... and keep safe your evmove license... as longer as you can ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic We reinstalled RsLogix5 from the new toolkit. Most older versionsapparently do not work with FactoryTalk. I had the same exact problem. I called customer support, and evidently, the problem lies with the lower case letters in the RSLgx5P. To fix the problem, do the following: 1. Return ALL licenses back to the server (from everyone's machines). 2. Stop the Factory Talk Activation server. 3. Make a backup copy of the activation file. 4. Open the license file and change RSLgx5P.EXE to RSLGX5P.EXE. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 1500 Historical Trend In setting up a historical trend I've noticed that when a page containing a graph, let's say with 2h worth of data displayed, is closed and then re-opened, all but the last 20min or so of trended data vanishes from the graph. I'm using a datalog model and storing on the local CF card--what am I missing here? Is this a start time issue that requires a patch of some sort? ### Assistant: Just a note: which is the frequency you use to log your data ? Machine Edition data log is a circular one, max records are 300,000 and they are threated as FIFO. Take a look to Aid 36265 and Aid 36267 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply. Refresh is set at 1s. I'm only trying to display two active pens right now as the trending portion of the application is still in it's bench test stage. Once I get it to work the datalog model will contain 20 or so active analog tags. In setting up the datalog and trend object I used the examples set forth in the AB Best Practices notes as well as a power point file I found here, and some info in the help file that loaded with RSView ME. The app has a number of pages in it--trending is only shown on one right now. The datalog is running and actively logging to a CF with no issues. The problem I'm having is that when I open the screen with the trends (right now set to show 2 hours) the traces/pens do not start at the far left where they should, I'm only seeing the last 20% of the info. If I then let the trends run it will fill up the chart, as it normally would, but when I close the page and then re-open it I again lose 80% of the trend. I saw one note about setting the buffers/cache to zero, forcing the chart to use historical data when it refreshes, but have not tried that as yet. It seems to be a start-time issue-- In the Datalog Model, there is a setting for Maximum data points. Type the total number of tag values to store. When this number is reached, the oldest tag values are deleted to make room for new values. The minimum is 100; the maximum is 300,000. The default is 1000. Maybe this is not enough to maintain all the data you log.... double check it ! Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic I'm set at 1000. Here's a link to the note about the cache issue I mentioned: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=37373 Hmmm.. seems not be related to ME..... Just take a look to Aid 36854... there is a formula to calculate the data points you need to configure in your Datalog... I think that 1000 is not enough for you.... try to use a bigger value (i.e. 20000) Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic This may seem obvious but it gets missed A LOT ... Did you specify the datalog in the trend object properties? You have to tell the trend what datalog to pull historical data from, otherwise its realtime data only. JHutch Yes, I followed the AB setup guide to the letter, but it is not populating my chart with any info older than 20min (on a 2hour trend) when I open the page. Let me make sure I've got the data right in my head. 2 pens = 2 tags in the datalogrefresh rate = 1 sec That means 2 tags x 60 seconds = 120 data points120 data points per minute x 20 minutes = 2400 data points Your datalog is set for 1000 datapoints ... you'd run out of space after about 8 minutes 20 seconds. Solution (if I grabbed the data right from your posts): Increase the size of your datalog JHutch NOTE: A 300,000 data point log would hold over 41 hours of data. Thanks for the reply. This is still in bench test phase so I have not gone back with the formulas from the Technotes as yet. When the chart page is left alone and runs on its own, it will fill up the entire chart with valid traces. When the page/screen with the chart is closed, and then re-opened, I am losing all but 20min (on a 2hour trend)--it just goes blank. My question is--if the info is being logged to the logfile on my CF (versus RAM cache for real-time pens), why isn't the app going in and retrieving the logged data to reproduce the chart? I will try increasing the datapoint value--I am concerned though that the datalog model would have this limitation (and max value is 32767) as we intend to later try to log 2h worth of data from 20 pens. pw3 wrote: My question is--if the info is being logged to the logfile on my CF (versus RAM cache for real-time pens), why isn't the app going in and retrieving the logged data to reproduce the chart? If what I think (and JHutch too... :smileywink: ) is correct, you have not the possibility to retrieve the data from your log file,because oldest data (after 1000 data points have been saved) are overwrited in the log file, as it is a circular one and it is not big enough to contain your oldest data. pw3 wrote: I will try increasing the datapoint value--I am concerned though that the datalog model would have this limitation (and max value is 32767) as we intend to later try to log 2h worth of data from 20 pens.What do you min for max value ? Max data points in your log file are 300.000 Using the calculation posted by JHutch: 20 pens = 20 tags in the datalogrefresh rate = 1 sec That means 20 tags x 60 seconds = 1200 data points1200 data points per minute x 120 minutes = 144000 data points Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic It *is* going into the datalog to get the data (it's actually less than 20 minutes worth). The problem is, your datalog is full when it hits 1000 data points. At that point, it starts deleting the oldest datapoints as new one comes in, so you always have the LATEST 1000 data points in your log. The reason you are seeing it fill the trend when the screen is open is that the trend object has its own buffer of data. While it is open, it's filling that data from the datalog. But, while the datalog is limited to 1000 datapoints and starts deleting old ones when its filled, the trend object is limited to whatever fits in the object and only deletes data points when they fall off the side of the trend object. When you close the screen and come back, the buffer in the trend object is completely reset and it's only able to show you as far back as the datalog has data. JHutch Well that was it--changed datapoints to 14400 and set cache at 0 and now have 2h worth of trends when I open the page. Thanks very much for the assistance! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Change Embedded ActiveX Image embedded in ViewSE screen thru VBA I have added a activeX Microsoft Forms 2.0 Image control to my FTViewSE screen and what to change the picture or picture location that is loaded when I display the FTViewSE screen. I have not been able to get the code to work yet. I have tried using the Image1.picture property put with no luck. Any ideas? Thanks ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 43544... it explains the Microsoft Forms 2.0 Image control usage and limitations. It instructs how to use a Native View image instead... edit: added infos Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I tried this code and it gives me the following error. One or more of the names were not known. Return array of dispids contains dispid_unknown for each entry that corresponds to an unknown name. I can't seem to get around this, any ideas? Thanks, Be careful to the correct syntax of the invoke command in the code....and also double check Notes: statement in the technote. - fuzzy logic I've not well explained my first reply... now I've edited a note. :smileysurprised: There are some limitations in using Microsoft Forms 2.0 image in a ViewSE display, thus the suggested technote gives a workaround, instructing on the use of a native View image instead. So, this is the why you get the error; you have to Add your images in the Images Folder of the project, then insert an image object in your display, and exposing it to VBA, you're able to use the code in the example, giving in the String input just the name of the image object you need to display. Hope this clarifies…:smileytongue: - fuzzy logic This works!!!! I had originally placed an ActiveX object on the screen and selected Microsoft Forms 2.0 Image control which was not working, instead of the selecting the image control from ViewSE object menu. Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000 homing problem I'm using Ultra 3000i to control a motor bewteen normal count positions 0 and 100000. I have a homing sensor at position 0 and a negative overtravel sensor at position -10000. During a normal homing sequence, the motor will go backwards till it meets the homing sensor, stop and go forward 1000 counts, which is position zero. If the homing sensor is out of order, the homing sequence will cause the motor to pass the homing sensor and move to the negative overtravel sensor. Now comes the problem: Here the motor will for no particular reason change direction and go forward until someone stops it. So activating a negative overtravel while homing seems to make the motor do a movement I didn't tell it to. Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Tommy. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the following technote: Aid 47722 There are all the cases of Homing and overtravel, and your situations seems to occur sometimes as a known behavior... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: input/output search Hi, I am new to the 5000 series plc, but have years of experience useing plc5 and 500. My question is how do you search for a known input or output, for example if the program requires input I1:3 to be true but it is not, how do you find it in the ladder logics. ### Assistant: I hope to have well understood your needs... :smileysurprised: Here a collection of technotes that may help: Aid 45746 - Aid 48279 - Aid 42925 - Aid 40945 - Aid 43974 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: New to Allen Bradley PLC's Hi friends, I have some good experience with Siemens PLC's and simatic products, but I am new to Allen Bradley products, in a month I'm going to use the below listed PLC's for my project purpose, - Compact Logix 5500 - Control Logix 5300 - Micro Logix series - SLC 500 - New Micro Logix PLCs 1100, 1400 please provide some idea, where I can find some good information of this PLC types or if possible provide some links, docs to get to know more about this. Thanks in advance. Best Regards,Thavas ### Assistant: Basically, the AB docs are divided in : Selection GuideInstallation InstructionUser ManualReference ManualProgramming ManualQuick StartRelease Note ...and sometimes it is difficult to know where to find the informations needed. So, in the Selection Guide you may find a good explanation on how to select/compose your PLC/IO or other products (drives, software, etc)Installation Instruction usually contains wiring guidelines, installation hints, and specifications of the product.User Manual normally explains how to configure/program/troubleshoot your device.Reference Manual is the manual for the Instructions or Parameters explanation.Programming Manual contains the procedures to configure particular functionalities.Quick Start is more useful for experienced user to just refresh the procedure to get his device works.Release Notes contains particular informations of that version of the product. So, usually you may find in the Literature site, a complete set of docs for the devices you have to program. Hope that helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix 2000 Schematic Drawings Does anyone know where I can access Kinetix 2000 servo schematic drawings? I found the panel footprint but not the schematics. ### Assistant: Pilot, try to navigate to the following link: Kinetix 2000 User Manual Otherwise, go to the Literature Home and search for Keyword Kinetix 2000. Also, for Product Drawings, this other link: Product Drawings ... and build the correct Cat. number as needed. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I've looked everywhere. The only .DWG drawing I can find is a panel footprint. I am looking for a schematic component for AutoCad Electrical. If the schematic drawings are released they would be at :http://www.rockwellautomation.com/en/e-tools/index.html If you cannot find what the specific drawings you require at the website, then contact technical support and give them the product catalog numbers your looking for. They will forward the request to the CAD Configuration Specialist. The CAD Specialist will email you the drawings.Please specify what format you require the drawings. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Copy file from F8 to F8 I use a SLC 04/542 CPU, with an analog input in slot 2. I have two different types of control boxes that contains a heater, a pump and a float switch. There are two models, one on 120 volts and the other on 240 volts. Obviously the current in a 240 volts is about half of what it is in a 120 volts circuit. I wanted to avoid having two different ladders in which the values of the current flowing through each models is monitored; therefore I decided to use the COPY instruction. As the current flowing can fluctuate from amps to miliamps (mA) I have to use the FLOAT and not the INTEGER files. Making test to verify my program I realized that I was getting alarms as the current being monitored was not correct. I verified the parts I was using and also monitored the current flowing through the tested circuit with a Fluke 321 clamp meter. The value were correct. Later I realized that it was the Float values that were not correct and don't seem to COPY. Exemple: F8:15 is the fixed value of the current of the heating element under 120 volts that I fixed directly in file as 11. F8:16 is for the 240 volts and fixed at 5.5. The destination is F8:6. Once the value is loaded for a 120 volts control box I should read in the F8:6 a value of 11. In the COPY instruction there is the LENGTH feature that I'm not certain to understand properly. I changed it's value going from 1, 4, 8, 10, 25. Now can any one fathom what is going wrong? I will also double check if I used the F8 file somewhere else in the ladder or with a ADD, DIV, SUB etc instruction. Thanks guys. ### Assistant: Hi Pulsar, the correct length for your COP instruction from one Float to another Float is 1...it refers to the number of elements you want to copy...in your case just one. Be sure the Ladder file you use to copy your data is *called* from elsewhere using JSR Anyway, to better understand your issue, if you want you may send me your ladder file and I will have a check... I've sent you a Private Message here in the forum with my mail address... if you want.....:smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Remember, the SIZE parameter in the COP instruction is in units of <size of destination type>. Bear this in mind if you copy between two files of different types. Suppose I get raw block transfer data from some module in integers (N), but some of the items are really floats. It's 2 bytes per integer, but 4 bytes per float. If I copy from the N file six integers containing 3 float values into an F file, the SIZE in the COP is 3 (destination is 3 floats). If I do the same thing with output data for a BTW, I'm sending 3 floats into six integers to get transferred out, the SIZE is 6 (integers). This always throws people off with strings. Poeple copy a string to integers and only get the first two characters because they used a size of 1. But a string is 82 characters plus the length (integer), so the size of the destination of this copy is 42 (integers -- 84 bytes). Going the other way, from a bunch of integers to one string, the size should be 1 (string). Just burn size of destination type firmly into your brain and you'll be fine with COPies! Dale, W8ABZ Since you appear to be copying just a single value from one float register to another float register then I suggest you use the MOV instruction instead of the COP instruction. Also, if I read your post right, you have defined a constant of 11.0 at F8:15 and 5.5 at F8:16. If you are moving constants and these constants won't change then you can enter the constant as the source in the MOV instruction. ieMOV 11 F8:6orMOV 5.5 F8:6 Keep in mind that the MOV instruction also performs type casting for you when moving between data types, while the COP instruction performs a bitwise copy. What this means is that if you move an integer that contains the value of 7 to a floating point address using the MOV instruction you will get 7.0 in the float. If however you copy the same integer to a float using the COP instruction then your float will contain the value 9.8e-45. The float conforms to IEEE-754 format so if you want to see why its 9.8e-45 then look up the IEEE-754 float online. While this is sometimes useful, for what you have described the MOV instruction will be much simpler. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Restoring an RSViewMe 4.0 application from one computer to another I have an application that is running fine on one computer. I backed up the applications and then loaded it into my other computer. The application restored properly however the communication to the PLC does not work. I verified the the communication short cut links to the correct PLC. I even deleted the communication short cut and re applied it. I still have no proper communication link. This is so **bleep** frustrating. Can anyone give me idea on how I can get the communication to work after a restore from another computer? Communication is done throught Ethernet. Compactlogix L35E to PanelviewPlus 1000 ### Assistant: agt, are you talking about Local communication ? (Pc - PLC) Did you try to *ping* the PLC to see if it replies ?Be sure your Pc IP address is *compatible* with the address of the PLC (I mean they are on the same subnet).In RSLinx Enterprise, Local tab, go to Ethernet driver and right click, then Start browsing, to see if your PLC appears and it is correctly linked to your shortcut. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy, thanks for replying! Yes I am talking about PC to PLC. This occurs when I am testing the application. I have verified that I can browse for the PLC and I can see it. When I deleted the short cut I had to re-install the communication link and it sees the PLC. When I test the application un-modified it does not see any tags. On the computer where I copied the application it works fine. We are on a network at work and all PCs are on the same subnet. I can go online with RSLogix 5000 with the PLC and have no problems. Did you read / try Technote: 48376 - FactoryTalk View Studio CPR 9: New shortcuts, or changes to existing shortcuts, do not work? Also what you can try but you write that you can browse the controller: Open the Firewall configuration in Windows, select the exceptions tab and add UDP Port no. 44818, name it RA44818 UDP . I have seen issues on some computers running the IP driver of RSLinx Classic: not possible to see any node on the ethernet. Hello rpm Thanks for your input. After reading fuzzy's reply I went back to look to see if I could see all the short cuts. The HMI is linked to 3 PLC's. As it turns out one of the PLC's was offline. Once it was back on it still was not working. I ended up going into managing services and stopping RSView Enterprise from starting (read that in one tech note). I restarted RSView ME and was able to get everything working again. Thanks to you and fuzzy for your help. Hope I can return the favour one day. Great forum! n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 ver 12 won't activate After activating my 2009 toolkit, I just noticed that I cannot open any RSLogix 5000 projects prior to version 13 because it says it failed to activate. Version 13 and later open fine. Versions 12 and 13 were all working prior to this new activation boondogle. It is embarrassing to have your software fail at a customer site with them looking over your shoulder. Not to mention the time it wastes to deal with such issues. Does anyone know how to make the prior versions work again? If I click the Activate button provided in the error message it opens the old EVMove dialog. Of course there's nothing to move any more since my old toolkit master disks are expired. It's not a borrow issue because newer versions work fine. Anyone know? ### Assistant: Please check the exact version of your RS5000... You'll need at least v12.02 to use FactoryTalk Activation... take a look to the attached table... Or I think you need to call in Tech Support to obtain an old Activation disk... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: data logging in Micrologix 1500 Dear Sir,I am doing some project involving data logging using ML 1500 and RSVIEW32 and RSlinx etc. I want to know if the PC is not switched 'ON' for some reason then can the data be retained in PLC itself and data downloaded when PC is switched ON. And if yes then for how long? thanks ragni ### Assistant: if any help for this , will be great ragni ragni, answer could be yes...just I think it is not so easy to realize... :smileysad: You can try to use the data logging functionality inside micrologix,starting to log when PC is switched off; in Aid 18498 there is a quick start doc that helps on configure it. After that, in order to retrive informations logged, you have two ways: 1. using the Data Logging Utility, that creates a .csv file with your data2. creating your own software application inside PC, following the instructions you may find in chapter 22 of Micrologix Instruction Set. About your question on how long the data can be retained... Datalog memory is 48Kb, retained by battery... so the data can be retained until battery is ok... If you're referring insted to how long I can log data before reach the memory limit, then it depends on how many data you want to log and with which frequency... Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How could I do a rehost, when the Activation doesn't appear? Hello!!! Today is 2nd March and I tried to rehost my Activation without success. Why can I see the Activation on the Current Activations label but not on Rehost label? What could I do to Rehost my activations? In advance thanks. Yari ### Assistant: Be aware that date-expiring activations that have expired do not appear on the Rehost Activations tab If it is the case , you can't rehost your license, due to it it expired. :smileysad: Like my toolkit, it maybe expired on 28 February.... - fuzzy logic If date expired activations cannot be rehosted, then how do we get new Gold Master activations? The utilised activation count seems to be carried over from last year. Now my activations are all used up and useless ZAdrian1, in order to have informations and instructions about GoldMaster program, you have to call in the Channel Development Team for your region, or send an e-mail with your request to rschannel@ra.rockwell.com. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic ZAdrian1, The solution for that is calling support. They will be deactivate your Activation for your host ID. Just they can do that. fuzzy logic, Many thanks for your help. Have a nice day. :smileyhappy: Kind regards, Yari n"}
{"text": "### Human: Change SystemDate Having a Logix5000 (V15) PLC with 2 FTSE5.0 stand alone systems, we would like to syncornize time and date on the PC's using PLC Wallclock. TAG SystemHour, Minute and Second is no problem, but it is not posible to write new value into systemYear, Month or date. Any ideas or work arround ? ### Assistant: I think the only way is to use VBA code...as you can't directly write inside system/datetags...a similar problem is explained for ViewME in Aid 30570. (Entering individual components of the date can cause other date components to be incorrect, so entering individual date components is not allowed) Take a look to Aid 46621 it seems to be what you need... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Produced and Consumed Tags I am trying to determine which communication is best over an ethernet network when it is PLC to PLC. Which is better for the network.....using produced and consumed tags or message reads and writes? ### Assistant: Better for the network ? Typically that's going to be MSG instructions because they can be triggered on event conditions and the TCP protocol is easier for unmanaged switches to handle. Produced/Consumed Tags are far easier for the automation programmer because the initiation, timeout, re-start and failure detection are done by the controller and network modules instead of by the application program. What are your needs for the controller communication ? Thanks Ken, I understand what you are saying. The communication is TCP/IP between two CLogix processors. To amplify a bit on what Ken said.... Produced/Consumed tags is equivalent to an I/O module connection. It uses the same connection class in CIP, has an RPI, and uses Multicast packets on Ethernet. So if you set up a consumed tag with a 20ms RPI, it'll get sent 50 times a second whether the data values change or not. It'll get sent multicast, so to avoid flooding your networks with multicast (basically, broadcast) packets, you'll need Ethernet switches that at least support IGMP Snooping. Also like an I/O card, you can have one producer and many consumers, so you can do a one-to-many, which you can't do with MSGs. (With I/O cards, you have one owner of the card and its configurations, but you can have other listen-only connections by other controllers...) A MSG instruction initiates a send on a false-to-true transition of the MSG. So you can only send the message at most every-other scan of the instruction (one scan false-to-true sends, another scan true-to-false re-arms the instruction). A MSG doesn't use multicast packets -- it's a straight TCP connect, so you can send it over unmanaged switches. Since it's not multicast, it's a one-to-one deal -- no one-MSG-to-many-receivers capability. You can add logic of your own to detect a change in the data and only initiate the MSG on change (or after some time if the data don't change, as a keep-alive to REALLY keep the network traffic down. (We used to do this in the DH+ days when bandwidth was 15 packets per second or less for the entire network...) So basically, if you want it to act like an I/O card -- time-wise, regularity-wise -- or you want one-to-many, use P/C. If you want to send occasionally or on event, and it's one-to-one, use MSG. Ken might comment on this, because I'm not certain: I believe there's a restriction on the data size for P/C -- you need to have it fit in one CIP packet (512 bytes minus overhead), so you can't send more than about 480 bytes of data payload. I think with MSGs you can send bigger and it will do the packet disassembly/assembly for you. But check on this. Try it for yourself, or check some other literature..... As for EtherNet/IP switch requirements for I/O and P/C connections, refer to publication ENET-AP001D-EN-P. This will walk you through why you need various Ethernet switch features. Plus it contains some good info on how various connections work in general. Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ Dale, Thank you very much for your.....this also helps the understanding n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex70 and 20CommE We have PF70 drives that are configured to be controlled via the 20CommE module on Ethernet. Works well.In anticipation of a network or PLC crash, can the drive be configured to also respond to hardwired inputs, (start, stop, run at a preset speed) in order to accomodate the emergency situation?Can you program a digital input to transfer control from the 20CommE to hardwire and then back again? Or do you absolutely have to go in through the HIM andmodify the control parameters? Thanks ### Assistant: wireguy, you may use the Local control function over a Digital input terminal. Take a look to Aid 49630... Also, Aid 41038 gives a similar functionality... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix5K Add-On Instruction and ViewSE Add-On Instructions are associated to istance tags defined by the Add On data type. Why these tags are not usable as direct tags with Factory Talk ViewSE? When I browse the PLC tags using online I find a folder named with the name of the AOI istance tag but this folder in everytime empty regardles of the the type of the tags defined by the Add On data type (In, Out, InOut and DINT, BOOL, REAL etc.). Can anyone help me on understanding the reason of this? Thanks in advance. -- Fabio Cambiaghi Systems dept. PSC Srl Engineering & Contracting ### Assistant: Fabio, which versions of the software are you using ?Did you install latest patches ? Many time the solution is there.... :smileytongue: Anyway, I've tested this, and I can *see* all the instances of my AOI using Tag Browsing.... :smileysurprised:I'm using FactoryTalk View SE 5.00 with latest patches. Take a look to Aid 33198... just to double check all settings.:smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I'm using SE rev. 4 (CPR7)... Can you suggest me a link where to find patches for this release? fabio Here we are..... :smileywink: Aid 35680 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Also note that, regardless of whether the AOI tags are browse-able or not (Local Tags inside an AOI do not show up in the tag browser -- they are private), they can be entered directly into View. Let's say I have an Add-On Iinstruction called MyInstruction, and in my application I create an instance with a backing tag called MyInstance. Also let's say I have in the definition of this AOI an input parameter (REAL) called In, an output parameter (BOOL) called Out and a Local Tag (STRING) called Description. I can have a View numeric display that references MyInstance.In, a text display that references MyInstance.Description, and animation of the color of the text that references MyInstance.Out. (The references would use the usual direct tag syntax, e.g., {[MyCLx]MyInstance.Out} ) In the above example, only MyInstance.In and MyInstance.Out (parameters) show up in the tag browser. But the display of MyInstance.Tag (local tag) will work just fine! Also note that you need to reference the backing tag of the instance. Displaying MyInstruction.In would not work -- it's only a definition. Only the instances (backing tags like MyInstance) contain actual data that can be displayed. Hope this is clear! Dale, W8ABZ Sorry. I had typed MyInstance .Tag, then changed it to MyInstance.Descriptioin to avoid confusion. But I missed changing the last instance. D'ohh! It should say But the display of MyInstance.Description (local tag) will work just fine! My bad.Dale n"}
{"text": "### Human: Transfer classic topics to enterprise shortcuts What i am looking for is the most simple way to go from classic topics to enterprise shortcuts to be the data server for my se project. What happened is that this project was developed using rslinx classic topics and i took on the project and continued to update it using the classic topics. we have ran into issues with once a plc has been of the ethernet network for more than a day, when it is put back on the network the tags will come and go within studio. you can connect to the processor and go online and everything fine. if you open the tag browser in studio and open the online folder for this topic no tags show up even if we do a refresh all. when you run and opc test client you can not see any of the online tags either. we thought we had this fixed when we found some wrong addressing issue with 2 of our routers. however the problem has come back and it is consistent. we are an underground coal mine and we place l32E compactlogix processors at each conveyor. once a unit moves off a conveyor that processor might be off the network for 1 to 30 days depending on when the set the next conveyor. our temporary work around for this issues is to shutdown and restart linx. after we do this all tags work correctly within the studio program. i have read the best practices guide and saw that classic is not the best to use with logix 5000 controllers. can someone give me instructions on the easiest way to go from classic to enterprise? i would think that if i kept the names of the shortcuts the same, i wouldn't have to go in each display and change the tag name for each connection. i am hoping there is an easy way to do this since i have 70 or so displays looking at 100 or so processor's, no telling how many tags are within my project. i am also use datalog, derived tags and events so that adds on to the complexity of changing the data servers. any tips, literature or any or guidance will be greatly appreciated. also if anyone has experience same issues with enterprise please let me know so i don't waste my time converting just to run into the same issue. in the mean time i will create a new project with one enterprise shortcut to a processor that will be offlilne for a while an test for myself. ### Assistant: I've done some test using FactoryTalk View Studio v5 CPR9, View SE Station and RSLinx Classic v2.54 In my project, originally I was using RSLinx Classic as OPC server, my Data Server name was Server1Testing application on some Direct Tags and also some HMI Tags...fine. After that, I've deleted my RSLinx Classic Data Server and created a new RSLinx Enterprise Data Server, giving to it a shorcut name the same as the *old* topic of RSLinx Classic (Server1) Now, test application without any other modifications, just save. Direct Tags works fine, HMI tags doesn't work,they give an error in the Diagnostic bar, like Failed to add Item to Data Server RSLinx Enterprise.... Just close the application and restart it, all works fine. :smileytongue: Obviously it is only a test, with few tags and just one shortcut to one PLC... but maybe an indication. Take also a look to Aid 33990, there are some benchmark results (made with CPR7) related to the use of RSLinx Classic and RSLinx Enterprise compared... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Need to use 1784-PCMK but new laptop has pc express slot and no PCMCIA slot My new laptop does not have a PCMCIA card slot but do have the express card slot. I need to use the 1784-PCMK card to talk the DH+ and DH485 networks. I saw where they make an express card to PCMCIA card adapter but have not tried this to see if it works. I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and what did you do to get around it? Any feed back is appreciatedThanks ### Assistant: Rockwell Automation has not found a good PCMCIA to PCMCIA EXPRESS adaptor that will reliably work on the DH+, DH485, Controlnet, and Devicenet networks. :smileysad: See technote 35291 Rockwell has instead developed an USB to DH+ adapter (1784-U2DHP) :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSview32 75 points licence Hi ! I have a customer using a 75 points licence for RSView32, thus I need to spare points. I need to configure some alarms. The question is, if I set alarms bits on a DINT (in a CompactLogix), and points on the different bits in RSView32, is it considered as using only one point for the licence ? THX a lot Joe ### Assistant: Joe,using RSView32, every time you declare a new Alarm Tag you use a tag that counts towards the I/O tag limit... :smileysad: .... also if you're using a bit inside a DINT...also if you use every time the same tag ! :smileysurprised: Just to be sure, you may check Tag Limits in Tag Statistics, following what is indicated in technote 43741 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Joe, It all comes down to how your tags are configured. Let's say you have a DINT in the controller - do you have 32 tags in RSView32 pointing to individual bits within that DINT, or do you have 1 tag that points to the DINT and use bitwise operators to read individual bits? This will either count as 32 tags or 1 tag respectively. Now let's take this a little further. You want to do alarming. You cannot use a bitwise operator in a tag's address, so you might think that you need 1 tag per bit. However, will a little finesse, you can work around this. Let's say you use a derived tag to extract individual bits from your device tag (see tech note 4403 for a detailed description of how to use bitwise operators in general). The derived tag could extract the value of the bits and store them in memory tags, which could be alarmed. So now you have 1 device tag and 32 memory tags representing the individual bits. Here's an example illustrating how to read bit 9 from your device tag into a memory tag:TagName: MemoryTag9Expression: DeviceTag & 512The tag MemoryTag9 would be alarmed. Obviously the derived tag needs to be running or else none of your alarms will work. Wow Jonathan... nice trick ! :smileysurprised: I think in this case it could be very useful to avoid to buy an upgraded licences just for few tags... (side note: I have rated your message to 5 as it is very well explained :smileywink: ) - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 40 via Ethernet Hi all. I'm developing a project with several PowerFlex 700 VC's and PowerFlex 40's on Ethernet to a ControlLogix. I'm having to set up datalinks to get a couple of extra parameters read back in. The 700s seemed pretty simple. But on the 40's I can't find where to add the extra datalinks. The Data Format box (in Module Definition) is set to 0 Data Links and is grayed out, so I can't change it. I've looked in the user manuals for the 40 and the 22-Comm-E module and I can't seem to find the info I need. ### Assistant: Unfortunately, Powerflex 4x has not the possibility to use Datalinks... :smileysad: Only way you have in order to read/write parameter is through Explicit Messaging. Aid 38670 22-COMM-E User Manual - chapter 6 as examples - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can multiple PFlex 70/700 drive params bet set via SSV in CLX? We have many systems using either CompactLogix or ControlLogix and PowerFlex 70/700 drives via 20 Comm E modules. We are investigating the ability to download drive parameters via ENet to the drives from the processor using SSV's or Explicit Messaging triggered from a PV+. We usually change only a few parameters from factory default and want the ability to eliminate CopyCat or manual configuration via the HIM. Has any one done this? Thanks. ### Assistant: Bill, you may do this through explicit messaging, that potentially gives you the ability to read/write all the parameters in the drive, but there is also another simple way, using PF7x Datalinks... You have a maximum of 8 Input Datalinks (to write parameters in the Drive) and 8 Output Datalinks (to read parameters from the Drive. I suggest to read the 20-COMM-E User Manual, chapter 5 and chapter 6, in order to understand the two possibilities....there are also some useful examples... Also, take a look to Aid 32629...it has all you need to know in order to use explicit messaging Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, Thanks for the quick reply. The scattered write option is exactly what we were looking for. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSTrendx in Logix5000 I have never used these trends with start and stop triggers. I understand you can start and stop a trend to log data but, and probably a stupid question, do you have to be online with the processor? Will these start and stop triggers work while offline. Just thinking out loud here. May be a useful troubleshooting tool for techs. ### Assistant: No stupid questions here.... :smileywink: Take a look to Aid 47484 which explains how triggers work. In effect you have to prepare them while trigger is stopped, and then you have to run it and it will not start to log data until the trigger conditions are met.During run of the trend, the trend server polls the Logix controller to log data, that means all of this should be done during online and when your controller is in RUN mode.That is, the trend server is in your PC (RSLogix5000) and data are in the Logix Controller.Going offline will stop the trend operation. Aid 32379 explains how trends work. Hope this helps... P.S. JHutch, I think the right place for this thread is in Programmable Controllers section...:smileywink: - fuzzy logic My HMI background is showing... I assumed this was about RSTrendX in an HMI... Is this about RSTrendX running on somethign else? JHutch In that case I guess the user is mentioning the Trends embedded in RSLogix5000... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I see now how this works. Looks as if RSLogix requests the trend server to start and then the trend sever looks for start/stop triggers. So I guess the answer is yes Logix5000 must be running. Thanks! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Unable to browse through tags from controller Hi everyone, I need your help here. My working place is using RS Logix5000 and RS View ME. All the while its working fine until one day the RS View ME suddenly stop working. RS Logix 5000 is still working so it's not the controller problem. The error message shown in RS View ME is  Systemuser does not exist on any server followed by :  Tag does not exist on any server  Tag xxx has not been activated So I contacted the support from Rockwell, Uninstall reinstall the program, run the patch, recreate shortcuts,all not working. At the communication setup from Rs View Studio,I can see the controller browsing which means there should be noproblem with the communication setup. Here are some screen shots: As you can see the Controller is detected @ communication setup. Empty tags from the tag browser, not even the system folder: Thanks very much! ### Assistant: Just a couple of questions: Which is the communication type you're using ? ( I mean Ethernet/IP, serial...)May you explain your architecture (network, number of nodes, module used, version of your software...) The above could help in answering.... Also, try to attach your screenshot using the following method, as now they are not vieweable.... :smileywink: In order to post an image, take your screenshot, save it as a .jpg file, reduce its size to accomodate in the forum post without problems (I think 500 pixels in width could be fine) and use Add Attachments on the right side of your new reply. - fuzzy logic are you remembering to hit the copy button to copy the shorcut to the target tab? Maybe I'm just missing something, but the tag you mentioned is a system tag and therefore not affected by communications at all. If you cannot connect to a system tag, I would start by deleting the CACHE folder in for this project (of course ME has to be shut down in order to do this). Also delete the .CAC file in the TAG folder. If that fails, run one of the sample projects, see if you get a similar error for the tags in those projects. If the sample project works, I'd import your original project into a new project and test that. Just make a new project and click the Import button - this will allow you to import the .MED from your original project. Hope that helps Also, sometime the problem is related to the corruption of either RSLinx Enterprise configuration or cache folder. Technotes 45110 and 35050 explain how to proceed in order to try to solve. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Indirect Access to Tag Data addressing in ControlLogix I know and have got it to work using the MSG_Control.RemoteElement to get data from a programmed location. Is there a way to Wright that data to a programmed area? I wish to be able to MSG (CIP Data Table Write) to another Controller in the same rack information but want to select both the source and destination before the enable. The only workaround I see now is to create a temporary location to send the data to then Copy the temp Values to the final location. ### Assistant: Unfortunately, the MSG_Control.RemoteElement can select only one address, and if the msg will be Write, then this address is the Destination tag; no way to specify both Source and Destination programmatically. You need to use some workaround like the one you describe in your post, to copy the data to send in the *fixed* Source element before enable the message. Or, you may use .LocalIndex to change the element number in the Source tag... it isn't the same as to change the Source element totally, but it is a possibility.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic The LocalIndex and RemoteIndex looks like it will be the solution. I have 6 UDT in each processor with 50 elements each. What I'm going to try is create 6 MSG Read instructions one for each UDT Destination areas with the [*] option in each. I then can use the .RemoteElement to select the source and execute the desired MSG relevant to my desired store location with the .LocalIndex selection the element to store to.I will not get to this until Friday but looks like we have a solution Thanks Corey UPDATE: Using the.LocalIndex and the .RemoteElement has been successful. I had to create 12 MSG instructions. Two MSG instructions for each array. 6 MSG's to Read Data from the other processor to 1 of 6 selected Array. Then 6MSG's to Write Data from 1 of 6 selected Array to the other processor. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel Builder bitmaps and language selection Is there any separate downloadable library of bitmaps available other than the one which comes with Panel builder software? Secondly, can I change text on a multistate push button if language selection for the display is changed. I want to create one graphic supporting two languages English and Russian. I have created a switch which changes the language from one to another. This is possible in case I use multistate indicator however I am not able to do the same function if I use a push button. Now I have no way other than duplicating each graphic with its corresponding Russian display. Please advise. ### Assistant: About the bitmaps...check this other thread in the forum... About the languages... you may for sure change the text in every object in Panelbuilder32... Have you enabled Multi Language Support for your PV? In that case you may change your text (and your text font) in every object for every language. Take a look to the attached screenshot... check for the Panelbuilder32 online help about language. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Thanks for your response 'fuzzy logic'. Multi Language Support works for French, German, Italian, Spanis and English only. It doesn't work for Russian language. I have to import an external font file to enable Russian language. But somehow or the other it doesn't appear in the Language drop down menu. I will also check online help for languages on PB32. I think I will have to do some more research on this topic. Anyway thanks for your support, I will get back to you once I find another clue. Yes, you're right. :smileywink: <start edit>I was supposed to use a trick, but really I don't know if it works, as I've not tested it...maybe you can try.Let's suppose the example in my screenshot, using English as base language.. then, select another Language, let's say Italian, and select your external font to insert the text.:smileysurprised:So that, when you will choose Italian language, you will see your cyrillic characters... tested, it doesn't work...you may select just a font type and size for an object </end edit> I've also found a note in KB that says the multilanguage is not suggested whe use external font.Two workarounds are explained in that technote (Aid 19415 - last 2 statements) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 40 Where can i find programming manual, this drive was preprogrammed and didn't come with one. Thanks ### Assistant: Here the link to the User Manual: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/22b-um001_-en-e.pdf Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: The replacement for 1794-L34 As we know, 1794-L34 was obsolete . Is it right ?Please advise the replacement for 1794-L33, 1794-L34 ### Assistant: It is a Silver product. Here the link to Silver Series program. As you know, there isn't a direct replacement for these controllers.... You may consider the use of a CompactLogix Controller, and the selection should be done considering total I/O quantity, networks needs, controller memory....etc Flexlogix maximum memory is 512 Kb, it has one onboard serial port and 2 slots for comm cards; it supports 8 tasks; it uses RSLogix 5000 as programming software.Thus, every CMX controller has enough memory (minimum is 512Kb), has an onboard serial port,and may support different comm cards as expansion modules (and also in some models already has an embedded Ethernet/Ip or Cnet port)... it also uses RSLogix5000, so that your *old* program could be easily migrated. Check the number of tasks you program needs, as not all CMX controllers support 8 tasks Take a look to the following link to see the characteristics of CMX controllers.http://www.ab.com/en/epub/catalogs/12762/2181376/2416247/999999/9999999/ If you want to maintain an already installed Flex I/O bank (previosly with an attached Flexlogix), you may change that *old* cpu with a comm adapter and use it as remote node, if applies... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Custom ActiveX control in RSVIew Im using RSView 32 Show Works (2 Hour Demo) I planned to create Alarm Display ActiveX control in my own. So i opened VisualBasic 6.0 and added corresponding references for RSView. Started to code and debugged.But errro occurs in first itself..My code is Private Sub UserControl_Initialize() Dim tagNam As String Dim fpname As String tagNam = tDFC101PV Dim tg As RSView32.Tag If gTagDb.TagExists(tagNam) Then fpname = gTagDb.GetTag(tagNam).Value //Error occurs in this line Error is Runtime error 429ActiveX Component can't create object What can i do to avoid this error? Is there any way to create OCX control in RSView VisualBasic Editor ? Pls help me. ### Assistant: Try to access Microsoft KB, to the following link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/194751/EN-US/ Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic You need to remember here there is a difference between VBA for RSview 32 and an external application written in VB 6. You are writing an ActiveX control - so it's safe to assume you are using external VB6 - in which case you are missing the object reference to the application and project. See KB ID 3715. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Laptop USB to SLC 5/04 rs232 comm Hi there at the moment I have installed rslogix 500 and rs view onto my laptop, I am trying to communicate with the laptop and slc 5/04 cpu with the cheapest possible way. And I require the laptop to communicate with all slc 5/04 cpu when faultfinding. I found a cable from EASYSYNC LTD the rs232 single. Would this cable meet my requirements? If not could someone list alternative ways it would be much appreciated. regards paul ### Assistant: You may use a 9300-USBS, that is an USB to RS-232 adapter from Rockwell Automation. Other adapters may works, but are not supported by Rockwell Automation. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000 E41 I have been seeing ground faults and drive hard faults come up in my PLC.The ultraware fault history shows E41 filling the entire queue. I have an internal shunt, what options do I have to fix this error? ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 22707 - Aid 26076 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic From looking at these technotes, I am wondering if a bad contactor in-line with the drive could cause this problem. The contactor does not drop the auxillary power. If the contactor dropped out for a second or less could this cause E41 to occur? It seems possible, if this happens when the motor is still rotating... Cause: Servo motor was back driven causing the DC Buss voltage to rise above 200Vdc while Ultra3000 HV drive AC input power is removed. The PIC processor's bus discharge logic will also protect the shunt resistor in scenarios where the motor is back driven after the Ultra3000 HV drive input power has been removed. Back spinning the motor at sufficient speed to charge the DC bus above 200VDC while the drive's three-phase power is removed will satisfy this logic condition. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Activation My current activations list shows RSLINX.EXE and RSLINX.GW borrowed until Jan 30 2010. Why does my RSLinx always come up as LITE??? On launch, splash screen displays checking activation for quite a while and then comes up as LITE. This has nothing to do with stopping/restarting service. I don't run Linx as a service and I have rebooted several times. Also, in FactoryTalk Activation Tool, Current Activations, what do the person / computer monitor icons mean? I have some activations that show a person icon and others that have a computer monitor icon. ### Assistant: The icons to the left of each borrowed activation indicate if the activation was borrowed using a local system account or the user account of the person logged on to the computer. Also, about your issue, be aware that the software will only be activated for the user who was logged on when the activation was borrowed. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic As the activations for RSlinx shows borrowed so RSLinx does not have any available activation and it changes to LITE mode. So the borrowed activation has to be returned so that full RSLinx version becomes active. All licenses were borrowed at once from one license server using my user login which has administrator rights. Why would some show as borrowed by system account and others by user account? ragni: The licenses show as borrowed because my machine is borrowing them from the license server. All other borrowed licenses are working, such as, RS5, RS500, RS5000, RSNetworx, etc. I'm having same expirence with RSLinx. The problem seems that RSLinx starts as a Services before the Dongle Driver og FactoryTalk Activation server. The cure is to close RSLinx. Restart Activation server. Browse activations, and then start RSLinx (and other applications) again. I'm using activation locked to dongle, and dongle is always mounted on startup. I realy do hope there will come a better solution. Best Regards Lars. I finally fixed the problem. It had to do with the fact that I DO NOT run RSLinx as a service. I don't use RSLinx day in and day out so I don't want to waist valuable computer resources. I had to rehost my RSLinx licenses and borrow them again without the SYSTEM for service check marked. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connection of Freewave Radio to 1756-L61 Goal- Allow Remote access to tag information in 1756-L61 via the serial port. Using DF1/MODBUS protocol. I have a HTplus Freewave radio. 1- I need to find out if the cable (1756-CP3) will work for connection to a freewave HT plus radio. The Hosting Company I am working with does not have RS Linx yet and asked to provide the witha DF1/MODBUS connection instead of the Ethernet connection. 2- How do I use the above connection, (if possible) to place the needed Tag information in the correct Registers? (N7...In RS 500 app) I have done this with a MicroLogix1200 and a MDS Transnet Radio using the same cable used forprogramming the unit. Moving information into the N7 registers was easy but I seem to get lost whendealing with the addressing of the RS 5000. I have looked through the pdf link:http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ap/cig-ap129_-en-p.pdfI am not sure if this is the way to go.... I am still fairly green with Modbus etc.But with a little helpI know I can ### Assistant: Two questions to clarify: From *where* do you need to access tag infos? I mean SCADA, Database other software...Which is the exact model of your Freewave radio ? HTPlus seems to be Ethernet... Then, you may use DF1 if it is available, you could also map ControlLogix tags to an address similar to the one you've already used (N7:0 etc.)... Aid 7355 explains that... - fuzzy logic First, let's address the serial cable. The supplemental data sheet for the Freewave HT Plus describes the serial port as RS-232, 422, 485, DCE. The DCE description is the important one. It means Data Communication Equipment, and that designates which pins perform which function. Your PC, and the ControlLogix, both have DTE, Data Terminal Equipment type ports. To connect DTE to DCE, use a straight through serial cable. To connect DTE to DTE, use a null modem serial cable. Because the 1756-CP3 programming cable is a null modem type cable, it will not work to connect the ControlLogix to the Freewave HT Plus radio serial port. I recommend fabricating a cable with only pins 2, 3, and 5. This is because Freewave must have used a nonstandard pinout in order to fit both RS232 and RS422./485 interfaces in the same connector, so jumpers or pin connections present in a full 9-pin cable (like the 1756-CP3) might have unintentional consequences for the radio port. Next, let's address the devices. I can see that your target remote device will be a 1756-L61 controller. But I don't see what your master device will be. You say that your customer does not have RSLinx. So what do they have ? If you are unfamiliar with Modbus RTU protocol and serial connections in general, using the Modbus via ladder logic application note is going to be a very steep learning curve. Tell us more about the software side of the application. The Host Co. have there own software for gathering SCADA. According to them it has the ability to communicate DF1 with the Logix processor. Accessing the Data will be through a VPN to the customer LAN then to a router connected to a VLAN (FreeWave Backbone). I Have a FreeWave HTplus (HTP-900RE).This will give me the ability to communicate DF1 (serial connection) and communicate Via Ethernetwith RS LINX after the host Co. has there system updated (which may not happen). In addition to my question about the Cable, connecting the freewave to the Logix processor can beachieved by using a gender bender & a crossover.......with the AB 1756CP3/A RB40 0807 Cable?? Thank you for your time. About the addressing using DF1.... if that SCADA support the ControlLogix native tag address(as seems, reading your post), then it is quite easy to *see* all the tags in that controller directly. Otherwise, you have to map as PLC/SLC messages following the technote I've indicated in my previous post. - fuzzy logic The 1756-CP3 and 1747-CP3 cables are full null modem cables that swap not just RX and TX (pins 2 and 3) but also pins 4/6 and 7/8 for DSR/DTR and RTS/CTS functions, and jumper pins 1 and 6. Here's a nice pinout picture: http://forums.mrplc.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=5315 Because the Freewave port is claimed to also have RS-422 and -485 pins (but they do not call out which pins they are on) in the DB9 connector, those jumpers might create short circuits or other loading that interferes with the function of the port. You could certainly try a 1756-CP3 with a crossover or null modem adapter, but I would be a lot more comfortable with a simplified cable with only pins 2, 3, and 5. Lets say that I need to expose the tags by mapping them for PLC/SLC messaging. Will this expose the tags and enable the host to see them thru the serial port of the 1756 L-61? Will this effect the Communication with the Panelview Plus 1000 via Ethernet? Yes, for sure... the tags are exposed to every comm channel... I mean, the cpu is seen as a PLC-5 by those devices that needs to do so... and this can be done either through Serial port or another comm module, through the backplane. PanelviewPlus will continue to communicate with the controller as before, using CLX native tags. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: using filtering on micrologix 1100 and upgrade questions I have a micrologix 1100 and some questions. The Analog In is noisy so I wanted to add some filtering. When you look in RSlogix 500 and see OS Series S:58 = B OS FRN S:59 = 5.0 Processor Series S:61 = A Processor FRN S:62 = 2.0 What series do I have B or A? Info I read about for filtering the analog Input says I need series B, which I assume I have. I also read I need RSlogix 500 7.2 as a minimum. When I tried to update, it says that I need to uninstall the version I have first (7.10), does this screw up my activation? What about other Techs who have version 7.10 can they still open other files I save? Thanks George ### Assistant: George, following the answers. 1) Your MX1100 processor is series B2) Installing new version of RSLogix500 will not delete your existing applications3) Techs who have v7.10 will not able to open your files created with a newer software version Third point could be solved like follows: Return to the original source of the project and perform a File>Save As function and change the file format type to .ACH and export the documentation. Open the .ACH file in the older version and import the documentation. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, You won't lose your activation when you update the RSLogix 500? Also, If I modify a program then save, can they open that? thanks George George, the activation will not be removed during uninstall/reinstall :smileywink: And, as I was writing before in point 3, if you save a program with version 7.20, others cannot open it with version 7.10 :smileysad: In case, use the workaround in my previous post in italic text. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CLogix and Excel I need to capture approx 100 excel spreadsheet values and to populate CLogix tags with the caputred values at 15 second intervals. I understand that this will require macros in excel.Is there a tech note or a posting on the Knowledgebase that explainse how this can be done?Thanks ### Assistant: In the Knowledgebase there are many technotes reguarding DDE read and write macro for Excel. Use as keyword for search dde+ms+excel Here some of those technotes... Aid 20434 - Aid 31017 - Aid 5436 - Aid 24437 - Aid 22698 Also you may find some example DDE macros in RSLinx Classic online help. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for your response. These are great tech notes. Some of which I had found and others that I had not. I was looking for a way to automatically send the data from the excel spreadsheet every 15 seconds without pushing a button.This could be trigered by the PLC with a DDE link to a cell in excel or triggered by excel.Has anyone seen anything like this that I could use to start?Thanks again.Tony Tony, follow this LINK... there is all what you need to realize your Excel DDE link to send data to the PLC every 15 seconds. I've tested it with a sample DDE word write and works fine. Hope this helps… :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Node locked Activation If a user has a Node locked software package and the computer crashes how do I get a new activation .LIC file? ### Assistant: Call in Rockwell Automation Telephone Support, give them your software Serial Number and Product Key, they will have the possibility to reactivate your license. At this LINK you may find the phone numbers you need. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel View Micro 300 initial test fail Fault 31 I have a problem with a Panel View Micro 300, it happens to stop during the initial test, Fault 31(the consecutive). Is there a way i can fix it? How can i get the program? ### Assistant: Unit is failing the stuck key test. Take a look to the following technote: Aid 42387 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: powerflex 4 no ouput voltage even with numbers on the keypad (100V) HiAfter a ground fault on the motor, the drive looks OK and I see voltage on the keypad (ex. 100V output) when motor button is activated but there's no voltage output at the drive and motor. ### Assistant: Maybe for some strange reasons it is not in a fault state, but I think it is damaged... :smileysad: If it indicates it is running and you may see some output frequency over the display, the motor should obviously run if properly connected... so if the motor stay stopped, drive is damaged. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Programming question on the control logix Is there a way I can develop a program which can store matrix type data in a ladder logic. My problem is : I have 5 pumps and I need to automate it in such a way that the 1 pump is on at a time but the PLC must not switch on the same pump over again. It has to sense the pumps in maintenance and select the next available pump. In that case I might need a matrix which can be saved for 5 cycles and then develop cases. Is control logix capable of handling this , if so how could you solve this. ? ### Assistant: If I have well understood your request, you may use a multi-dimensional array to obtain this... take a look to the pubblication in the LINK, starting from page 26. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I would use a standard counter and 5 online/offline bits. If the count = 1 run 1st pump unless its offline. If its offline increase counter... When count >5 set to 1... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Parameter files and Strings in RSViewME 4.0 I am trying to do something that I think is simple in RSViewME 4.0. I have a String Display object on my screen that has a Connection to { ### Assistant: As all Parameter should be tags, you cannot... :smileysad: Anyway, there is a workaround, usint a Text object instead of a String Display with an embedded variable of type String. Aid 50973 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I had looked at that workaround before and I must be doing something wrong because I can't get it to work. I create a Text object and tried to put in just a String variable, with the syntax like this /*S:0 #1*/ and it gave me question marks on the display in Runtime. I then tried to make it a Literal String by just manually typing in /*LS:0 #1*/ rather than inserting a variable and it just showed up blank in Runtime. I think I must be doing something wrong with making a Literal String. I don't have any option for that when I insert the String variable. Is there something else I'm missing? Is a Literal String only available in SE perhaps? Or maybe I need to upgrade to 5.0? You need to use Literal String, but there is the possibility to select it in the Embedded Variable definition... I'm using Version 5.00 of ViewME, so I think it is a new feature... :smileysad: edit: I've found the following in the release note of ViewME v5.00: Parameter enhancements - provide support for embedded variables in title bars; literal numbers and strings in the embedded variable syntax; and display of right-most characters in embedded string variables. Take a look to the screenshot.... I've tested and works... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Looks like it's time to make the switch to 5.0. Thanks! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Explicit messaging to a 20 Comm module Now that I have the Explicit Messaging working great to the PFlex 7XX drive, I need to know how to set up the Set Attribute Scattered MSG to write Parameters to the actual 20 Comm E module. I can't find (or understand) the Class/Instance/Attributes that I need to specify to write to the module and not the drive. Can anyone point me in the right direction?Thanks,Bill ### Assistant: Bill, Class Instance and Attribute should be the same as those used to read/write parameters in the drive... Just you need to specify in the Scattered_Write_Request (source element in the example of the 20-COMM-E User Manual) the number of the adapter parameters; they start from 16384, as you can see in the screenshot. So, for example, if you want to write Accel. Time 2 in the drive, you will use 141, if you want to write the adapter parameter 03 to Enable BOOTP, you need to use 16387 (16384 + 3) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy, It took a minute to figure out where the 16407 needed to go, but now it is working fine. Thanks for your support. Bill n"}
{"text": "### Human: Function Blocks Is there a special software for program or procedure for creating a function block in RSLogix 5000? If I insert a new routine, the only option in the pull down list is ladder. Once you create a function block, can you use it in ladder as an instruction? ### Assistant: Function Block Diagram is an optional language in RSLogix5000, and in some RSLogix5000 packages should be acquired separately. Take a look to the following technote:Aid 44905 Anyway, what you need to obtain, as I guess from your post, is a new custom instruction to call in many istances passing every time different parameters: this is called Add On Instruction and is available starting from version 16 of RSLogix5000. Take a look to Aid 43485. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel Builder 32 Tags missing Hi, I made an Upload from a Panel View 550 with DH485 Comm. When oppening de application with Panel Builder 32 V3.82.00 allthe Tags are missing! Does anyone know why is this? Regards, ### Assistant: Take a look to technote 20481... if application loaded in the PV was created with older software version, you need this Panelbuilder version to upload correctly the project... Otherwise, post again your comments... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Conversion of Panelbuilder32 to FactoryTalk View Studio, Alarms I have converted a PB32 application to FTView Studio ME and am having difficulty getting the alarms that were establilshed in the PB32 to work corrrectly in FT. The PB32 had the alarms going to a integer file. ### Assistant: Just a couple of informations.... You said the trigger is an integer (or more than one integer ? ) but, as trigger type which is your need? Bit or Value ?Anyway, take a look to the User Manual, starting from page 9-11 there are useful infos about Trigger types. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1336S BRF50 Hi there I have got a 1336S-BRF50-AA-EN4-L4 drive and i wish to run it using the inputs from TB3 (L4 option card). I have done a factory reset and have programmed input parameter 12. i have also changed the direction mask to x11111111. But when the try to run it it says Speed at 0.00Hz. The speed is determined by the inpust on TB3 ternimals 26, 27, 28. When I program input mode 12 it automatically sets the maximum freq and voltage to 60Hz and 415Volts and the base freq to 60hz and voltage to 415V as well. Can someone please help me i getting this started please. I need to get it going ASAP! Thanks a lot guys ### Assistant: It seems your drive is running fine, but the frequency command is 0 Hz, so it stays in run mode at 0 Hz....:smileysurprised:Take a look to the attached screenshot, taken from the User Manual... try to change the Speed Select inputs to obtain a Preset Frequency source, programming some values in Preset Freq. Parameters.For example, all the three inputs closed means use Preset Freq. 7, programming a value of 45 Hz in Preset Freq.7 parameters, the drive should run at that speed. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy Logic, Thanks for you reply But which parameter do I have to program so that it selects the preset frequencies? Input Mode 12 (you said you've programmed in Input Mode parameter) gives you the possibility to select Speeds by the status of Input Terminals 26-27-28 on TB3. As I 've written in previous post, if for example all the three inputs terminals are *on*, as you can see in table 2H attached, the drive will use as Frequency source the value programmed in Preset Freq.7 parameter.Preset Freq. 1-2-3 are in parameters 27-28-29, Preset Speed 4-5-6-7 are in parameters 73-74-75-76 Another example:Terminal 26 is open and terminals 27-28 are closed...you drive will use Preset Freq. 3 value. Hope this clarifies... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thnak you fuzzy logic. I will try it out and will reply the outcome n"}
{"text": "### Human: Embed a web browser in a PaneView plus display Is it possible to embed the microsoft web browser ActiveX into a PanelView plus (ME) display? I know this is possible in SE. ### Assistant: Unfortunately the PanelView Plus line is a closed system and does not allow external executables like ActiveX controls. :smileysad:If a particular ActiveX control is needed, the FactoryTalk View ME application has to be run on either a Windows 2000/XP runtime or a PanelView Plus CE with the ActiveX compiled for it. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSTrainer Activation Problems I want to get a computer set up with RSTrainer for some of our employees. I have Logix, Linx etc. working and activated fine BUT I keep getting license errors when I install and then try to start the RSTrainer programs. Any ideas.???? I know the old floppy disks were a hassle but man I never had problems like this. ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 24247 and Aid 24257... If you're using 2009 Automation Toolkit, please be aware of what is indicated in Aid 57786. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View ME 5.0 - Faceplates supported? I found the following in the 5.0 release notes for FactoryTalk View ME: Adding RSLogix 5000 process faceplates - FactoryTalk View Machine Edition now includes a number of global object-based process faceplate displays for RSLogix 5000 instructions that are commonly used in process applications. These faceplates can be added to an application automatically, either when the application is created, or later. Now, can I do this in a PV+ (not a PV+ CE) or is it still restricted because the OS of the PV+ doesn't support ActiveX? ### Assistant: Process faceplates are pre-configured graphic displays and global object displays that interact with Logix5000 processors. They can be used also on Panelview Plus. Anyway, there are some considerations to be aware using Faceplates with ViewME: take a look to Aid 47918 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic As a reference, you may also find many other faceplates for PVP in the Sample Code Web page Take a look to the following screenshot.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks for the posts. I found it in 5.0 and it looks like it will work great. One question - the naming had me a little confused. I kept seeing that Faceplates were supported in the PV+ but I also saw that Faceplates were not supported because they were ActiveX objects. Obviously what I found in 5.0 is not an ActiveX, it's just a Global Object that was created. The naming just threw me off because it seemed like it was being used for 2 different types of objects. Thanks again for the help! I know where the confusion is... :smileytongue: There are some technotes (i.e. 38688) referred to faceplates for RSLogix5000 that are Activex and thus cannot be used in a PanelviewPlus... they come inside RS5000 installation disc... they should not be confused with RS5000 PROCESS Faceplates that come with FactoryTalk View disc...and are based on Global Objects... That's all..... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 4 Max Rate of Start/Stopping I am looking at using a PowerFlex4 inverter for indexing a conveyor when reject products are presented to it. Does any one know the max rate of starting/stopping the drive per min. Many Thanks Mark ### Assistant: Depends what you mean by starting and stopping. If you mean adding and removing power, then I would recommend not more than once per minute. Otherwise, you will burn out the precharge resistors. If you mean starting and stopping output, then you should be able to do it as fast as the inputs will take it. The PowerFlex 4 will read the analog inputs at about 2 times per second. The digital inputs update at 2mS and have a throughput time of 6mS +/- 2mS. I hope this clarifies the situation! n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView Studio ME Edition I'm working with the RSView Studio, I imported a tag database that i downloaded from a plc 5 to a RSView Studio application, I want to work directly with the plc tag addresses, so I don’t have to create memory tags, but i have a problem: In RSView Studio I cannot access tags at bit level, just can access the whole word. What I did was: In the communication setup of the RSView Studio application, I created a new device and I selected a processor and imported the Offline tag file.Then, I created some objects in the application and tried to linked them to some tag addresses, but tag database only shows tag addresses at word level and not bit level. am I doing something wrong?? or the RSView Studio software cannot access tag addesses at bit level?? Please excuse my bad english, I'm not American! ### Assistant: The imported tags are only to the word level. To access the bit level you have to manually specific that address. For example, let's save you are trying to access the first bit of the N7:0 word. N7:0/1 Because in ME you need to have the shortcut in the tag address so it knows where to find it, it becomes: ::[shortcut]N7:0/1 (The :: is necessary because there is a : in the address.) Replace shortcut with whatever you've named your shortcut and you're all set. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView ME Security Access When trying to access a display with security code set at A, I keep getting the error message - Currently logged-in user does not have security acces to . I have set up an Account ID called Engineer in Runtime Security, I have also set up a user called Engineer in user group Engineers with full access priviledges. Any IdeasThanks in advance. ### Assistant: Have you logged in when this error occurs? The initial startup has the default user logged in and doesn't change until you specfically log in someone else. (And if you remove A from the default user, you'll get that error) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1762 Expansion IO Greetings, I'm going to be using a MicroLogix 1200 for a project, and I'm purchasing some expansion IO modules at the same time. Are the expansion IO modules powered through the IO bus - or are they like the micrologix, requiring a seperate module power supply and IO power supply.? ### Assistant: Justin, the embedded controller power supply will power the expansion modules. You may add up to 6 expansion modules in any order, size and type (depending on power budget). Aid 40959 give indications about the calculation of expansion modules current requirements. Also check the Micrologix Selection Guide, pages 60-61 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I am trying to control a 0-10v fan with the 1762-IF2OF2 analog output card. when i read +vout to com with a multimeter, I get 10.5V at 32760 as the output. but when i wire the fan to it..... it does not move.... please help n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can I use firmware series B (FRN 8) with micrologix 1100 series A (FRN 3)? Hi, Can I use firmware series B (FRN 8) with micrologix 1100 series A (FRN 3)? ### Assistant: Yes. When the firmware is upgrade, the series of the MicroLogix 1100 is be changed to series B. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can I upgrade a MicroLogix 1100 (1763 l16BBB series A) with the file 1763-LEC FRN8 Series B? Hi.Can I upgrade a MicroLogix 1100 (1763 l16BBB series A) with the file 1763-LEC FRN8 Series B? ### Assistant: Yes... a similar thread here... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&thread.id=1423 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Update Hi, Can I upgrade a MicroLogix 1100 (1763 l16BBB series A) with the file 1763-LEC FRN8 Series B? ### Assistant: Duplicated thread.... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&thread.id=1425 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Multi-controller Is there any necessity for multi-controller in a ControlLogix chassis? ### Assistant: No particular necessity...you may install your controllers in any slot of your chassis...Every controller will have its application program loaded.The only limitation is related to the power consumption of your controllers... just be aware of this when you're selecting a power supply. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic One of the necessities I can tell is the connection problem. A ControlLogix controller supports 250 connections. If the connections for a controller run out, then additional controller is required to be installed in the chassis for additional connections. Is there any other necessity for multi-controller in a ControlLogix chassis except this? Ah, ok... now I've well understood your request...I was thinking about what is needed to realize a multi-controller system... :smileytongue: So, you may need a multi-controller system when you need to split your plant in more parts, so that if a cpu fail, not all the plant stops... or to separate the charge of the program execution...Another reason could be the memory limit (not seen too much time, as the memory size in CLX is not so limited); sometimes there are many motion axis to run, so it is better to split them on two cpus to take advantage of more horsepower in every cpu.Sometimes I've seen the needs to use a cpu to manage data store and one to manage the logic.... Here a thread with an example of multi-controller needed... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&message.id=631#M631 Other cpu limits seems to me difficult to reach, for example the maximum number of task, programs...it may happen, but in rare cases...:smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Pop-up In SE there is an event to open a page but I cant get it to open my Pop-up or any page. Any help? ### Assistant: I'm not sure to have correctly understood your request...:smileysurprised:I guess you want to check for an event (for example a tag value change) to open a Display. In case, one of the reason of your difficulty could be that, if you are using an event to execute a Display command, it runs on the server, not in the client, so you can't do that... :smileysad: What you need is a possibilty to get the client to issue the Display command. Take a look to Aid 22007, there is a solution for that using VBA code; add a Numeric display in a page that is always running, so that the code will check the value of that tag when change to a value you want, and then execute the Display command.You may want to leave this Numeric display not visible... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using Links in Excel with a SLC 500 Hello,I have a SLC 500 and I would like to use Excel as a simple interface. What would be the syntax to reference addresses in the SLC? Thanks,Blake Ogden ### Assistant: You need to create a Topic in the RSLinx Classic to get data from SLC into Excel...:smileysurprised: be aware that RSLinx Classic Lite cannot support this...you will need for example OEM version or Gateway... check in this publication the differances between versions.... Take a look to Aid 24166... it is related to PLC-5 and DH+, but the procedure to create a topic in RSLinx and to use it in Excel is always the same; in the last part of the document you will see also the syntax for the address you need. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: can i import a rsp file to rs500? i have a older machine that has a plc5 in iti have a slc50/4 that i would like to use.any help will be appreciated ### Assistant: There isn't a tool to do an automate conversion....:smileysad: You may follow what is indicated in Aid 24055 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Encoder 845H I got an 845H encoder connected to a 1769-HSC module, when I power up the encoder my reading increase for CW rotation and decrease for CCW rotation, I just need the opposite, I connected encoder channel A to module channel A1, some clue? Thanks. ### Assistant: If you are using quadrature mode, you may swap the A and A- leads with the B and B- leads (page 23 of the below indicated manual)...the count direction is determined by the phase relation of inputs A and B. If A leads B, the counter increments. If B leads A, the counter decrements. Or you may use the DirectionInvert bit to change the counting direction, leaving the encoder connected as is... :smileysurprised: take a look to the -HSC User Manual at page 18 and page 25 to see various options... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSViewWeb and Apache Sorry! I have a lot of problems running RSViewWeb under IIS - low speed and others.Question: Is it possible to run WebServer with Apache? Not under IIS. ### Assistant: Unfortunately this is not supported....:smileysad: Required web server. If you are running Windows XP, or Windows 2000, you also need Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 5.0. If you are running Windows 2003 Server, you need Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 6.0. If you are running Windows Vista, you need Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.0. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Heartbeat for Powerflex 70 EC w/ ethernet with Logix Profile Hello, I came acrossed a slight issue today. I have a Powerflex 70EC VFD with ethernet connect to my CLX v16 PLC. The drive was running and I use the DriveStatus_Active bit as my running feedback. In the middle of the drive running, an electrician unplugged the ethernet cable from the drive which stopped the drive however the DriveStatus_Active bit stayed high and the drive displayed as running on my HMI. I was wondering if the Powerflex has heartbeat I can configure in the datalink so I can fault the drive on the HMI if I lose comms in the above scenario. ### Assistant: I would like to suggest a way to check the connection with your drive, that I've used in many plants...You may program a GSV instruction, checking the drive status using Module object... you may find some examples in the following technote: Aid 24162 In the RSLogix5000 online help, search for GSV/SSV objects - MODULE, to see what is available to check... see also attached screenshot with an example.... Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTViewSE - Linx Enterprise refresh issue Hi ! We have a distributed FTViewSE 5.0 application. One of the client is an overview of the production line. Each machine on the line has its own HMI server hosted in its own PC. On the overview we can access each production screen of each HMI sever. The issue is that when you don't access one of the HMI for a long time and than want to go on it from the overview, it takes a long time (maybe 10 to 15 seconds) to display this page. But when you access it again just after it is much faster. Should we put some kind of background activity to allow refreshment to be fast when we want to open a graphic ? THX ### Assistant: You may try to use the Display caching... see the attachment below, taken from View SE User Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Please only use display cache with caution. Only use on the displays that are giving you real issues - not to be used on ALL displays in an application. Additionally, if you do any kind of real-time editting with your distributed application, your cached screens will not show changes until the cache is flushed or the SE client restarted. I have had similar problems with multiple systems that I have worked with. In each case the problem came down to Ethernet/name resolution issues. I never use Caching as it complicates things. Once I fix the name resolution, the slowness disappears Check the following 1) Speed Duplex of the PLC Ethernet card (Depends on PLC)2) Speed Duplex of the PC/switch (100MB full duplex)3) How are you doing name resolution? DNS NETBIOS WINS HOST FILE, Make sure they are all setup correctly according to View SE Design Considerations guidetrying a ping -a to the HMI server (by IP) from the client and see what you get. Do you get a FQDN (Fully qualified domain name)4) What are your Internet explorer Cache size set at? Look at the View SE Design guide and configure accordingly. Usually, once I fix the name resolution/Ethernet configuration issues, I never see those problems anymore. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC/01 cable? Sending this message again. Don't know if I posted it. I want to know what cable or module I need to montor or program a SLC/01 plc. ### Assistant: SLC 5/01 has a DH-485 port available...you may use the old 1747-PIC (RS-232 to DH-485), but it is better to use the new 1747-UIC (USB to DH-485) with its cable, as indicated in the attached table... old *PIC* driver has several problem to run on new Operating Systems...Other options in the table are still valid, but more expansive than -UIC... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thnaks, Would you happen to know if this will be needed if i connect a operatot interface (EZ TEXT Panel) which uses a ez-dh485 cable. Would I need both? The SLC 5/01 has only one comm port... the EZ panel will use its cable to communicate with it, and if you want to program/monitor your SLC you'll need also what suggested in previous post... and you will need to disconnect the Operator Panel to use the SLC comm port....unless you create a DH-485 network, to have all the devices connected together...but it is another story.... :smileytongue: Hope this clarifies… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Coordinating 2 axes, MCLM, MAG, MAM & MAJ I need to be able to move 2 axes simultaneously with a defined relationship between them (the axes are at right angles, and the angle of the trajectory with respect to 1 of the axes is defined). To do a move of a predetermined distance it seems my best bet is to use a MCLM instruction (although I guess I could use MAG and MAM to gear the axes together and then move one of them). To allow the operator to jog the axes I think my only option is to use MAG and MAJ? Having geared the axes together using a MAG do I then just execute a MAJ on one of the axes and the other will automatically follow it? Presumably the .ER bit on the MAJ instruction tag will only be set if there is an error on the master axis? Does a Motion Axis Stop (MAS) 'disconnect' the 2 axes so that they can move independently? If not then what does? A bit later... I guess another option is to create a virtual axis and gear the 2 real axes to that. I wonder what the pros & cons are of the different approaches? Mike ### Assistant: If you define a coordinate system, axis 2 does not automatically follow axis 1 in a jog. The two axis are only going to be together when you execute the MCLM or MCCM instructions. For operator jogging the two axis together will require the MAG. Having geared the axes together using a MAG do I then just execute a MAJ on one of the axes and the other will automatically follow it? The MAJ is executed for the master and then the slave will follow at the gear ratio. If you MAJ the slave, it moves by itself. Presumably the .ER bit on the MAJ instruction tag will only be set if there is an error on the master axis? The .ER bit simply means that there was an error in the MAJ instruction. It does not indicate that there was a physical error with either of the axis, unless either axis has a particular error and that causes the instruction to fault. Does a Motion Axis Stop (MAS) 'disconnect' the 2 axes so that they can move independently? If not then what does? The MAS can 'disconnect' the gearing if the Stop Type is set to ALL or GEAR. If the Stop Type is just set to Jog for the master then they both stop, but both will move again for the next motion command on the Master. I guess another option is to create a virtual axis and gear the 2 real axes to that. I wonder what the pros & cons are of the different approaches? There is really no big difference in using the virtual to control the other two axis unless your automatic mode is for a coordinate system and the manual operator jog is for just jogging the two axis in a gear mode. That might make your programming more organized, but doesn't effect the timing or accuracy of the moves. Very helpful, thankyou. Mike n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix500 keyboard Hej. Why is my computer switching to EN-keyboard (english) when I enter an adress in RSLogix500. I'm using a DA-keyboard (danish) This feature is extremly anoying. Morten ### Assistant: It is a known behavior...take a look to Aid 39539, it may helps... (if you're using Win XP)Aid 21379 for Win 2000.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC program channel 0 gets corrupted when dumping into rsemulate All, I am working on a project using the channel 0 port of the SLC 5/04 processor as a Modbus master. When I dump the program into rsemulate 500 I can run the program. The problem is when I go offline and make a change to the program and try to re-dump the program I get an error message saying that message instructions that I have in the program are not constitent with the channel 0. When I click on the channel configuration tab and try to get to the channel 0 settings I get an error message saying Mode change characters must be unique. Anybody had this issue? ### Assistant: I've found a technote that may help.... Aid 48247 - fuzzy logic Thanks, I will try this. What's also funny about this is it will not do it all the time. The other thing I have been doing is when I go offline with the program I press the HLT button on emulate and then go offline with the plc program, and so far have not had any problems. Just made it do the error again. It appears that it only corrupts the file when you do an upload. I tried saving the corrupted file as a .SLC file and it would not save it because it has errors???? Finally got the program to save as a .SLC file. It got rid of the corruption but deleted all of my MSG instructions in the program?? I guess as long as I don't do an upload when I save it won't get corrupted? I've gone deep inside this problem... I get the same issue as you using RSEmulate 500 v6.00 and RSlogix500 v8.10 :smileysad: Problem appears only when you upload from online... Solution: Upload is not supported in RSEmulate 500 ! (Aid 4698) :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Same thing here. I haven't had any problems as long as I don't upload. Thanks for the help! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix500 Corrupted After Using Emulate500? I seem to have a re-occurring problem with running Logix500 programs through Emulate500. What happens is both communication channels are set to Shutdown and they cannot be changed back. I found the tech support note about saving the logic as an .SLC and then resaving it, which works fine. But is it a known issue that Emulate500 is causing the communication channels to be shutdown? Is there something else that could be happening? ### Assistant: Hi;Emulate 500 acts as a software emulation of a processor.. so it wouldnt need to have comm channels enabled as its never going to talk to anything other than the programming software... cant send msg's so cant get handshakes so logic locks up. jtheis, I've gone deep inside this problem... I get the same issue as you using RSEmulate 500 v6.00 and RSlogix500 v8.10 Problem appears only when you upload from online... if you go offline without upload, it works fine and channel configuration are not affected...Uploading the program, the .RSS file get corrupted... Solution: Upload is not supported in RSEmulate 500 ! (Aid 4698 - Note 3) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controllogix 1756-L1 with M2 Memory I am an Technician that works at a city water/wastewater plant. I have Programmed and worked with plc-5, andslc 500 systems. Our new wastewater additions has ControlLogix platforms. I have found it is a whole new ballpark.(Specifically compactlogix). I bought a used ControlLogix 1756-L1 Controller at a cheap price and am planning on buying a used power supply and achassis. (Rack). My question is this, Do I have to use a series A or B chassis, and do I have to buy the same seriespower supply? In other words does the controller, rack, and power supply have to have the same A or B series number? I have found I learned a lot experimenting on my own. (I personally own a used PLC-5 and SLC-500 systems to play around with.) Thanks for your help. ### Assistant: 1756-L1 controller can be placed either in a Series A or B chassis; just be aware of some limitations in power supply series combined to chassis series... take a look to the attached screenshot... taken from CLX Selection Guide... Basically, with chassis series B, you may use -PA/PB72 and -PA/PB75 power supplies, as well the redundant Power supplies -PA/PB75R.-PA/PB75 power supplies are NOT compatible with the series A chassis. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View Studio ME unable to Create Application Hi Folks, I have been running the RS View ME software on a PC operating Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 with no problem. I received a nice shiny XP Pro machine with service Pack 3 on it from I.T. I loaded up the RS Studio software and was able to upload from my units in the field and even go live on the PC . The problem is if i try to create an application I get the error Could not create factory talk directory for CPR 7.0 for this applicationCan you please tell me if you know of a problem with XP and service pack 3 giving this error, or if you have any idea where i should start looking. Thanks ### Assistant: At first we have to say that Win XP SP3 isn't tested/supported for RSView Studio CPR7 and also for FactoryTalk View Studio CPR9 (v5.00)... so it is suggested to remove it (Aid 56260) :smileysad: Then, I've found some technotes on your error, pointing to the fact that a reboot is needed to solve the issue...Aid 35355 - Aid 35540 - Aid 36965 ... you may try... unless already done :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-L63 Tasks and CPU usage Hi ! 2 questions regarding task executions and scan time. I have a program using 2 tasks, one fast and one slow task. First question : I have a big CPU utilization (about 90%), but sometimes I am at zero (I guess when tasks are both not executing and comm and housekeeping occur). How can I do to use the CPU all the time. Second question In the controller propreties I have a time slice at 15% but no continous task, what should I do with that time slice ??) THX a lot ### Assistant: Is implicit in Periodic Tasks system the usage of cpu resources with peakes... I mean, you use the processor power only during the time the task is executed... If you prefer to use more cpu power always, then you have to convert the slower task to continuous, but I don't know if this will impact positively on your application... also continuous task is interrupted from various process, for sure the periodic tasks, but also the background task. In the last is involved the Time Slice, and you may find a good explanation of it in the following technote: Aid 8501 In that document, the last phrase states (related to your second question): If there is no continuous task, the time slice setting has no effect. All processor time not used for other tasks will be used for background operations. Also take a look to the Programming Manual at this LINK. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic You can learn a lot about what's happening in your controller using the RSLogix 5000 Task Monitor Tool, which is optionally installed with RSLogix 5000. Look in Programs | Rockwell Software | RSLogix 5000 Tools for it. If all your tasks are Periodic (and Event), all leftover time is available for communications, system tasks, etc. Let's say you can live with scanning your logic every 100 ms and it takes 50 ms (give or take) to scan. That leaves open nice big chunks 50 ms wide for handling comms, like from your HMI. This is really great for systems with a lot of HMI comms. Any time left after doing the periodic, comms and background goes to the null task (doing nothing). If you have a Continuous task and a Periodic task, the Periodic will interrupt the Continuous one to run. Since your timeslice is at 85%, that means that, of the time that the Periodic task is NOT running, a minimum of 85% will go to running the Continuous task and a maximum of 15% will go to handling stuff like comms and background. NO time goes to the null task -- any leftover CPU goes to the Continuous task. There is some overhead time associated with switching between handling logic and doing comms / background stuff. If all your tasks are Periodic, switching will happen twice every 100 ms (once to switch to logic, once to switch to comms). With a continuous task, it will happen more often. One last thing: make sure your periodic tasks do not have the same priority. If they do, and they both become active, the CPU will quickly alternate running them (like every 1 ms), and the task switching overhead will just slow things down. Ugh. Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView SE 4.00 - check box issue I have put a Microsoft Forms 2.0 CheckBox on a display. In the Connection propertiesI have added a tag to control. It is a digital tag. But, when I check the checkbox, it puts the tag on 1, but it automatically unchecks the checkbox.Then I have to check it again and uncheck it to put the tag to '0'. Also when the tag is '1' and I open the display, the checkbox is unchecked. So how do I prevent the checkbox from unchecking and second, how keep the checkbox updated when opening the screen? (but I guess the second is related to the first issue) Thanks! ### Assistant: Hi Jamy, I've tested it in FactoryTalk View SE v5.00 and there is the same issue... :smileysurprised: I think it could be a bug... I can suggest as a workaround to create two graphic objects, one with a blank checkbox and one flagged, and use Visibility and Touch animation with the Toggle command to simulate the same action of the ActiveX... It is just an idea.... I usually use... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi fuzzy logic, Thx, I was thinking the same way, or make it VBA exposed (but I rather prefer no VBA). I will contact my old friends in Tech Support US to check if they are aware of this.I don't want to make an application full of workarounds :smileywink: I did this on a project last year but took the cheap route. I placed a maintained pushbutton on the display and formatted it to a beveled square (to look like a checkbox). Under the properties section for the 1 value, you can add an image if the value is a 1. This is true for any pushbutton but I grabbed the checkmark image that is used on the stock faceplate for a PIDE control. Each time an operator clicks the maintained pushbutton, the bit turns to a 1 (turns ON), and a check appears in the box. The operator can uncheck (unlatch) the maintained bit OR I can unlatch it from the PLC program to clear the selection after a particuliar sequence has completed. No ActiveX .ocx files or version mismatches to worry about. It works and as far as the operator is concerned, he's happy. You can find plenty of images on the internet by looking for sites offering free HTML buttons and since you can select to fit the image in the square, size isn't really a problem. Okay, I guess they are aware of it: Background : Microsoft Forms 2.0 Controls, FM20.DLL, is a library of user interface objects. These objects are fundamental building blocks of a PC-based HMI, the familiar Windows pushbuttons, slider bars, etc. They are distributed along with Microsoft's Office products, and third party products which use Microsoft's VBA technology. Wide distribution and extensive documentation make these controls a popular choice among Windows developers. Problem: Many customers have incorporated the Microsoft Forms 2.0 ActiveX controls successfully in their RSView graphics. These controls were designed specifically for use within the Microsoft VBA environment, and in many cases they will work just fine in other containers. However, in other cases, the dependence on the VBA environment will result in unexpected behavior. This is true even for Microsoft containers. Microsoft's KB document 236458 Using Microsoft Forms 2.0 in Internet Explorer says: The Forms 2.0 controls were designed for use only with VBA-enabled applications like Microsoft Office. They were not tested for any other environment and are unlikely to work properly. This is by-design. Because they were not designed or tested to work with applications that do not integrate VBA, Microsoft does not recommend or support using the Forms 2.0 controls in such applications. Integrating VBA into an application is a difficult undertaking and Microsoft does not recommend doing so solely to make use of the Forms 2.0 controls. The reference to VBA-Enabled application... might seem to indicate they should work on a RSView graphic, but what it actually means is that they will work in RSView's VBA environment - which means on a user form. The Forms controls are tightly coupled with their intended container (the Form). Consider the Frame control - on a Form, it can be used to make a set of OptionButtons mutually exclusive. When used on an RSView graphic, this does not work - the RSView .GFX container is unaware of the relationship. So in this particular instance, one of the Microsoft Forms 2.0 ActiveX controls will not function as it does in a user form. For detailed information on the reasons, see the related link: Interacting with the Container: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa242110(VS.60).aspx Resolution : Here is Microsoft's resolution from KB236458: RESOLUTION Developers must use the HTML fixed controls of Internet Explorer along with client-side scripting for any necessary forms elements in a page. This combination should meet most development needs. In the event an alternative to the HTML controls is desired, developers may choose to employ custom or third-party ActiveX controls. STATUS This behavior is by design. Problem: MSForms 2.0 controls not working as expected Cause: misapplication - wrong control container n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSview32 and 64-bit OS Will the latest version of RSview32 work with windows Vista 64-bit OS? ### Assistant: Unforunately it doesn't work.... :smileysad: Here from the Release Note of v7.50 RSView32 is now supported on Microsoft® Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition with Service Pack 2, Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1 or later, Windows 2000 Server with Service Pack 4 or Windows 2000 Professional with Service Pack 4, Windows Vista Business with Service Pack 1 (32-Bit) or Windows Vista Home Basic with Service Pack 1 (32-Bit). - fuzzy logic Fuzzy is absolutely right - no way to run RSView32 (or any other Rockwell HMI, for that matter) on a 64-bit O/S. But what you COULD do is run a Terminal Services Client on the 64-bit O/S and have it connect to a computer running RSView32 on a supported operating system. Depending on your application, that might do the trick for you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: L61s controller I bought a L61 saftey controller and partner. I cant create a safty routine.I have RS5000 v16 standard. Please dont tell me that I have to upgrade to program the processor? ### Assistant: You have to purchase the safety add on. 9324RLDGLXE 5fdp is right... another way (I think more expansive :smileysad: ) is to upgrade your RS5000 to Pro or Full edition... also take a look to Aid 37228 and Aid 38450... they have some other infos about that... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1784-PCMK , 1784-PCM4/B, 1784-PCM5/B, 1784-PCM6/B As we know, 1784-PCMK , 1784-PCM4/B, 1784-PCM5/B, 1784-PCM6/B was obsolete. Please advise the replacement for them ### Assistant: There are new USB to DH+ and USB to DH-485 converters and cables that can be used instead.... 1784-U2DHP1747-UIC Check in the linked manuals for appropriate cables for DH-485 and DH+ to use with the converters.1784-PCM5 cable can be replaced using the solution in Aid 51902 and Aid 58107 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: the replacement of 1756-L55 When replace 1756-L55 by 1756-L6x, how is the application program ? Must we change any thing in the application program ? Please advise ### Assistant: Obviously you need to change the Controller Type in the Controller Properties...:smileytongue:After that, the program is recompiled, normally, if you mantain the same firmware level, there aren't particular things to change.Otherwise, you have to be aware you may encounter some issues with your hardware (maybe you need to upgrade firmware for your modules)and also you may need more controller memory using the newer firmware (and newer software version); check for this in the Release Notes of RS5000 under Controller Memory Changes. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: solution for replace 1747-L542P Is there any solution for replace 1747-L542P? Please advise ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a direct replacement... :smileysad: I guess you may realize this with *modern* controllers, but it should be completelyredesigned.... I've found a thread in another forum that is quite old, but has some infos... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: the diference between 1747-L542P & 1747-L542 How is the difference between 1747-L542 & 1747-L542P ? Is 1747-L542P obsolete ? How is the replacement ? ### Assistant: Below is a link to silver series announcement for SLC 500 Proset 200 processors. http://www.ab.com/silver/injectionmolding/proset200.html A migration path for customers using these controllers is not available through Rockwell Automation. Some other info HERE , from a Ken Roach post... edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic It mean that there is not any solution for replace 1747-L542P? Please advise A new thread has been started HERE.... :smileywink: edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC Presentation ? Dear All,if any one have presentation on SLC troubleshooting & Maintenance, I need it badly.any one having relevant data?will be very thankful to you for this ### Assistant: Try to take a look (unless already done) to the User Manual and the Reference Manual...both contain Troubleshooting chapter that is useful for that.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Block PID does not work whem create online mode (Controllogix) I Create a PID block in the online mode , but the PID block not work.I would like if I have do somethings solve this problem, because i can not turnoff the PLC.The model the PLC Contrologix 5555Thanks ### Assistant: I've tested the same as you, and works... :smileysurprised: I've inserted a PID instruction in a new rung (CLX in Run Mode, made it in Online), and declared the needed tags, creating them as new tag (but you can also use an already created tag instead), then I've set it up at minimum, with a proportional gain to 1.0, a Loop Update time... After that, I can see my PID works... :smileytongue: Which is the problem you got ? Are you sure the PID block is inside a processed routine (I mean that routine is *called* with a JSR instruction) See also the attached image.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Acknowledge Acknowledged alarms? We are using FT View SE 5.0 and ControlLogix. We are using HMI tags for alarming. There are also HMI tags for the Ack bits which are used in the Alarm Enabled tags. We latch alarms in the PLC. Alarm bits are cleared when the Acknowledge bit is set if the alarm condition has been resolved. Here's what happens:1) An alarm shows up in the list2) The alarm is acknowledged while the alarm condition still exists3) The alarm is marked as acknowleged in the Alarm Summary4) The alarm condition is cleared5) Now the Alarm Summary won't write to the Acknowledge bit because the alarm is already acknowledged I'm looking for a way to have the alarm summary to write to the Ack bit even if the alarm has already been acknowledged, but I'm open to alternative solutions. I haven't been able to find any configuration settint that will enable the control to write the Ack bit for alarms that have already been acknowledged.It seems there is very little of the Alarm Summary exposed to VBA. I can't even set the control to Exposed to VBA, it will only allow the VBA Extensions setting. Any help would be greatly appreciated! ### Assistant: I'm trying to go inside your question... just I hope to have correctly understood...:smileytongue: If you declare a tag in Acknowledge Bit field, this bit goes on when alarm is acknowledged,and then it remains on until a PLC reset it, or when the alarm goes InAlarm next time, if you use the AutoReset feature.No way to have this bit written again when alarm condition is cleared as you want...It seems to me you need to know when alarm goes Out of Alarm. You may use the Handshake Bit, it goes on when alarm goes InAlarm and returns off when alarm goes Out of Alarm (remember to flag AutoReset)... for sure you need some other logic to be created in your PLC, but it is a way to know this status... remember to activate this function using the HandshakeOn command... So, following what happens in my idea: 1) An alarm shows up in the list (handshake bit goes on)2) The alarm is acknowledged while the alarm condition still exists (ack bit goes on)3) The alarm is marked as acknowleged in the Alarm Summary4) The alarm condition is cleared (handshake bit goes off) Also, unfortunately, the alarm summary object does not expose any significant properties via VBA Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic You could use an Identify button and configure each alarm's Identify command to write 1 to the tag's acknowledge bit. To configure the Identify command for each tag, go to the tag's alarm configuration, click the Advanced tab and give it the command you want (i.e. AckBit1 = 1). Then in the Alarm Summary, you make sure an Identify button is selected. When you press it, it will execute whatever command you associated with that tag. In this case, it will always write 1 to the Acknowledge Bit. Hope that helps. Thanks for the replies! We ended up changing the logic so that the ack bits are left on until the alarm condition clears. It seems to be working well. I still plan on looking at the Identify Button idea. We probably won't use it for this system but i'd still like to know for future use. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Date search on Trend Charts - FT View SE With trend charts need the capability to look up at past trend history by using a calendar to find and view a given day. Not sure how to go about this. Need Help.... Thanks ### Assistant: At first, you need to stop the trend scrolling, using for example the Pause button.Then, right click over the trend, Chart properties, X Axis, you may specify the Start date and Time you want to see... See the screenshot... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I appreciate your help, but I need to complicate life a bit more. The operator or state inspector is not going to have the luxury of a mouse or keyboard, and the know how, to navigate the screen. I need a simple button that brings up a calendar and let him randomly choose a date. He only needs to see a 24 hour window, starting at midnight. Ok, try to take a look to Aid 35321... there is VBA code to manipulate the Start Time... you may use it as is suggested, or you may want to modify the code as per your needs... Don't forget to expose your involved objects (Trend, Button etc...) to VBA, using the Property Panel. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Whenever I try to Insert an ActiveX Control I get an error that says Failed to create control. License information for this component was not found Still in the baby walking stages working with ActiveX and VBA, I assumed I need an *.OCX file. I Google'd MS Date & Time Picker for VBA and have not found where to get the .OCX file. Am I barking up the right tree? Off the top of my head, I know that RSView32's TrendX installs the Date and Time Picker. I'm sure that Visual Basic would also do it. FYI, the .OCX is MSCOMCT2.OCX. You can tell by going into VBA, adding a form, then right-clicking on the ActiveX control box and selecting Additional Controls. From the list, find Microsoft Date and Time Picker. Once you have selected, the name of the file is listed below. Good luck. I do have C:WINDOWSsystem32MSCOMCT2.OCX and when I do as you said in VBA OR in FTView Studio (Objects>ActiveX Control) then I get a message that says The control could not be created because it is not properly licensed!. It appears I DON'T have license to use the Date & Time Picker. How does one come about getting licensed? Take a look to Aid 42597, there are some instructions to try to fix the error you got... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The first test in Aid 42597 did NOT fix the problem. In the second test, I was unable to find the MSCOMCT2.SRG file. I checked several computers, but they had Office 2002 or newer, none with the file. I found Office 2000 Small Business and installed it on an old computer as recommended. After the installation, I still don't have the file, especially the MSCOMCT2.OCX. It looks like I may need to turn this over to support. If I don't get any feed back by mid morning tomorrow, I'll make the call.Thanks for all that you all have done, it is much appreciated Anyway, this is the key inside the .srg file indicated in the technote: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOTLicenses4F86BADF-9F77-11d1-B1B7-0000F8753F5D] @ = iplpwpnippopupiivjrioppisjsjlpiiokuj Here are some instructions: 1. Start-->run regedit to get into the registry editor 2. Browse to: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOTLicenses 3. Right click on Licenses and create a new key: 4F86BADF-9F77-11d1-B1B7-0000F8753F5D without the quotes. 4. Inside this new key, there should be a (Default) value. Double click on (Default) and insert the following value data without the quotes: iplpwpnippopupiivjrioppisjsjlpiiokuj 5. Click OK and reboot. 6. Re-add the MS Activex component in your display. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Just a note: I've tried to remove the above key from the register :smileysurprised: and after that I get the same error message as you...I've then *reinstalled* the register key, and after a power cycle of my PC, the ActiveX works perfectly! Hope the same for you.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I was succesful in accomplishing the task you recommended with the .srg file and was able to get DTPicker to work to a certain extent. I experimented with another ActiveX called Calender Controll 9.0 and did the code pretty much identical, side by side. The CC9.0 works great and changes times, but the DTP does not. I have assembled screen captures to show you. I'll have to send them on separate replies, because the forum is being too picky. Here is screen capture 1 of 2 screen 2 of 2 This happens because you're not using the correct VBA Object Procedure... you have different selections available...in the example attached to the technote, a separate button is used, and the code is executed when the Button is pressed... Another possibility is to use the Procedure *Change*, so that the code will execute when the date is modified by operator...... in the second example you don't need to use a button.... See the attached screenshot.... Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: String Value in Modbus RTU Is it possible to commnucate string value in Modbus RTU protocol ? ### Assistant: Yes it is... take a look to the following links, they may help. http://www.control.com/thread/1026241140http://www.simplymodbus.ca/FAQ.htm#Types - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: rsBizWare Enterprise Manager (MMC) 'Login Failed' on Server Manager Hi, I got a problem and I just can't solve it tried everything so I ended here. If I start the rsBizware Enterprise Manager, I am asked to register a Server Manager. I choose Yes and enter the hostname. Then the tree appaers with a red traffic light at 'Server Manager on (host)', I click it and a form appears 'Could not connect to the Server Manager. Would you like to start it?'. I press Yes. Normally, in the past, a login screen would appear (Login to Server Manager) were I fill in 'admin admin' and the production server etc would come in the tree. But now (dont know why but I have done everything the 'configuration tool' asked, though configuring DNS and SQL besides) it just does not appaer. After 10 seconds the light remains red and if i press the + symbol it explodes 'Login Failed'. Tried everything like changing DNS, Stopping and Starting Services... nothing helps it just won't work. Please help! ### Assistant: First I have to say I'm not an expert on this, so I apologize if reply is not in line with your request... just I'm trying to give help... :smileytongue: Take a look to the following technotes, that seems to me inherent to your issue... Aid 33433 - Aid 42119 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView Component and USB issue For some reason I cannot connect to a PVC C300 from my Dell laptop when my computer is docked to my port replicator. Here are other ways I have tried to connect to the PVC and the results: 1. Desktop computer connected to our network. Success2. Another laptop connected to our network. Success3. My laptop undocked and not connected to our network. Success4. My laptop undocked and connected to our network wirelessly. Success5. My laptop docked and connected to our network. Failure I am connecting to a USB port on my laptop and not one on the docking station. It would seem having the laptop docked is the issue but maybe there are other issues going on. Any ideas? ### Assistant: Do you even get the network connection showing up at all in Control Panel when this occurs, or is it not even recognizing the fact that something is connected? If you don't see the connection showing up, then there's probably something strange that happens to the port's settings when docked - you may have to see if there's anything in the laptop's configuration that changes when docked. If you do see the connection in Control Panel - take a peek at the settings (including IP address and any additional services that are used on that connection). Sometimes firewall, VPN, or other software packages can interfere. Do the USB ports on the replicator (if you have any on there) work with PVC? Yes my network connection does show up when I am docked. Everything appears to be the same as when I am undocked except for the fact that my attempt to connect to the PVC times out. I had not tried to use one of the replicator's ports because a technote I read said to only use the laptop's built-in ports. I guess I can give that a try. Ok, I finally got it to work. Here is what I did. While my laptop was undocked I deleted my Docked profile in System Properties. This causes a new profile to be created. I redocked and restarted and now I can connect. There is something screwy going on with this laptop and profiles because I have had to do the same thing before to fix a video resolution issue. Well I discovered that it doesn't really seem to be associated with Profiles but rather the fact that I rebooted. After rebooting I am able to connect to the PVC in Internet Explorer. However if I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect it then I am not able to connect to the PVC without rebooting. Wierd n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView Component and acknowledging alarms Does anyone know if it is possible to write to a tag in the controller when you acknowledge an alarm in the PVC alarm banner? ### Assistant: Not directly - there's no way to have the Ack button on the banner also write to an external tag. You could potentially have the controller monitor the screen number, but just because you transitioned from alarm -> normal screen doesn't mean the alarm was acked (the user could have hit the close button or something). My only thought is that you could modify the alarm banner to have a pushbutton that writes to a controller tag to signal an alarm ack (replace the Ack button with a momentary PB)...and then have the controller send a separate signal back to the PVc's Acknowledge All Alarms bit...which would clear the banner, and ack all active alarms. It's kind of a roundabout method, plus I'm not sure you'd necessarily want to have all alarms acknowledged. Yea I was afraid of that. Seems you try to save money on HMIs and then end up spending as much on programming time to duplicate functionality of higher priced units. Thanks for the suggestion. I think this will do what I need for this application. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Load Sharing with 700H I have two 700H drives driving a single conveyor belt. The drives are running one motor each separated by about 4m.How do I set them up so that they both run together, sharing the load, without the risk of having one run away? The only control option is Open-loop Speed Regulator.If both drives are set up exactly the same and both get the same speed reference, will setting the Droop @FLA on one drive only really make it work? ### Assistant: PJWZA,I hope it should work as i guess the application is not that critical.Droop should work fine here.:smileywink: I think I'll have to solve this one myself :smileywink: It needs a bit of tweaking since the drives do not have parameters that cater for this kind of setup. Both drives need a bit of overspeed leeway and both have to have Flying Start enabled. I only enabled Speed Droop on one drive and with a very small value too.With this setup both drives can start up together, stop together, and start and stop independently without throwing the other drive out due to torque fluctuations, speed variations, bus currents etc. The drives are not the same size, so the torque isn't shared equally, but that is not a concern. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Changing tagnames in Panel Builder Is there any way that tag references are updated in all the screens if a tagname is changed in tag editor? If yes please advise. ### Assistant: Unfortunately seems there are no ways...unless to change them one by one in all the screens... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: plc 5/20 need help hi fellowsin 1995 the control of turbine develop in plc5/20.i only know that c drive have a folder IPDS AND RUN BY ABMENU COMMAND.NOW I NEED THAT SOFTWARE F TRAIL VERSION FOR STUDYING AND PRACTICE OR MAY BE PURCHASE THROUH OUR COMPANY FOR UPLOAD AND DOWNLOAD THE LADDER IN TO AND FROM THE PLC.PLEASE HELP ME WHER I FOUND OR WHAT IS THE VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE? RSLOGIX 5 OR ETC?CAN I INSTALL IT ON WINDOWS XP IF AVAILABLE?THANKS ### Assistant: You may use RSLogix5 (9324-RL5300ENE) to program your PLC5/20; it runs also un XP os. Folder named IPDS is for old 6200-PLC5 software (9323PLC5) that I think is no more available... I think you may download the latest version (5.32.04) if you have the original one and a Tech Connect contract. Aid 5584 gives some infos on how to convert the old project to RSLogix5. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thanks for helpcan u define that with rs logix 5 can i communicate with the plc online and edit the variables like rslogix5000?thanks There are some differances between what you can do online in a CLX and a PLC5... With RSlogix 5 you can't create new Ladder Files or new Data Files... anyway, you can edit and modify the existing rungs and variables in online mode when PLC is in Run mode. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic hirslink required for online communication? if yes, which version supports with rs logix 5?any body knows the link where i download rslogix 5 demo version?thanks Also with RSlogix5 you need to use RSlinx Classic to go online with your processor.A good choice is to keep your RSLogix5 and RSLinx to the same CPR number, anyway you may verify in the release notes of your version if there are particular restrictions about the minimum version of RSLinx to be used.... also consider that a copy of RSLinx in included in RSLogix 5 installation package...As a demo version you may request your Rockwell representative to prepare a temporary Activation software in order to use it to test. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Force inputs on MicroLogix 1000 through OPC? I am using LabView to communicate via datasocket to a Micrologix 1000 PLC. I can read anything from any of the files (bit, input, output, status, integer etc.) but I would like to force inputs on through LabView as can be done in RSLogix 500.My goal is to create simulations of real systems in LabView that the PLC can be programmed to control, without having to wire the inputs and outputs of the PLC to the PC. (All for educational purposes.) ### Assistant: Unfortunately the Force Table cannot be *exposed* by OPC server... :smileysad: I think the only way to access the force table (other than RSLogix) is through DF1 command set, via serial port.... but it is another story.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: panelview 600 plus broken glass IS it possible to buy a new glass for the screen or get a whole new bezel w/ touchscreen?The operator had a heavy hand and smashed the glass! The cat. ### Assistant: 2711P-RN8 is not the correct cat # for the Panelview 600 Plus, it is just the option for DH+ communication... :smileywink: the correct code should be something like 2711P-T6C... Anyway, unfortunately there isn't a spare for the Panelview Plus 600 display, so I think you need to change all the Panel... :smileysad: or try to send to repair, if available for this matter... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Unfortunately, the PV+600 (and 400) units are not modular. You can't replace broken parts in the field. The unit will have to be sent in for repair. Just an FYI, the PV+700 and up *are* modular and you can purchase replacement display modules in this type of instance. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with SERCOS interface on Ultra3000 Drive. We have a control system that consists of 4 Ultra3000's communicating with an Allen Bradley PLC via a SERCOS fiber optic link. Ever since the initial startup of this unit we have had intermittent communication errors. Well, today they became much less intermittent and more permanent, we could only keep communication established for about 10 minutes in every hour. Each one of these drives are connected to the SERCOS in series to each other. It was obvious therefore to find out where the communication ended. I have no way to test the quality of or the data integrity of a fiber optic link, I can only use my eyesight to verify that there is light emitting from the SERCOS link at whatever point that I remove a cable. It was obvious using this method that the signal was entering a certain drive in the string, and in fact was being acted upon since the communication light was green, but it was not exiting this drive and entering the next one in the string. The red light was not emitting from the output of this card, so that eliminates the next fiber optic cable as being the problem. Also, if I remove the cable from the input of the bad drive and install it in the input of the next drive in the string, the rest of the drives from that point on establish communication again. So, obviously, the SERCOS interface card is defective in that drive. The question is, What has been the resolution of this problem? If you ran into this, was it just as simple as maybe the card is not fully seated into the connector in the drive? Remember, this problem is intermittent, it comes then it goes. I actually observed the output starting to work, then not work visually several times while the output cable was removed. Or does anyone know what specific component on the board may be defective? I have not disassembled the drive yet to see what components are there, but assume there must be an optocoupler I.C. of some sort that may be getting spotty? Or possibly something as simple as a poor solder joint? The simple answer is obviously to replace the card, but the customer is coming in Monday afternoon to observe the unit we are using this control system on run, so it might be quicker to source the individual component locally. Thank you for your help. ### Assistant: Is the drive with the problem still under warranty? I have never messed with the internal hardware of the SERCOS interface on the Ultra 3K but I have had this problem before. I just had the drive replaced. By the time you mess around with troubleshooting at the component level, you could just get a new drive and be done with it. I don't know what the urgency for this application is, but the drives aren't that expensive. Well, we got through that day. Had to mess with the software so that it was only expecting to see two drives. Then only drive one side of the project at a time then switch the cables to the other side, rather than both sides like the customer wanted. They seemed to be OK with it, but it probably didn't make us look too organized. The problem was this happened on a Saturday. The customer was coming in on that Monday, so we had no way of getting another drive in on time. The SERCOS interface consists of the transmitter and receiver. Those are the two plugs that you connect you fiber optic cables into. There is also a specific interface chip that runs everything and a few discrete components. I ordered the transmitter and receiver to have on hand in case this happens on short notice next time. More than likely they are the culprit. I have since turned that defective drive in for warranty and replacement. Anyone experiencing sercos ring issues, there is new diagnostic capability in version 17.16 of the sercos motion module that can be used to help isolate a suspect node. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 40 - Minimum Mounting Clearances - is a wiring duct concidered as an obstable is the wiring duct considered as an obstacle that restrict the air flow?? should I absolutley respect the 4.7 inch clearance even if i'm installing the drives inside a cooled enclosure (A/C) , is there any chart document that can show me what's is the minimum clearance to respect according to the ambiante temperature? if I can guaranty that the temperature inside the enclosure will never increase more that 35celcius degrees, should I respect the 4.7 inches clearance between the PF40 drive and the wiring duct ?? Thank you for your help ### Assistant: The clearance indicated in the User Manual should be respected (and wiring duct is considered an obstacle to the air flow), to avoid drive failure.... technote 34911 has details on this argument... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PICO Controller I'm using a PICO controller on a machine which essentially runs a motor, reads an encoder, stops the motor (clutch/brake arrangement), and operates a cutter. The stop signal can occur anywhere in the control loop timing and that is causing me a problem. I need to start the loop when the stop signal from the encoder occurs. Is there a way to pause the program or restart the program at a particular time?Thanks for any help. ### Assistant: I guess you're using the High speed counter comparing a preset with the actual value you read from encoder... unfortunately, the results of the actual value setpoint comparison is only transferred once every program cycle for processing in the circuit diagram. The reaction time in relation to the setpoint/actual value comparison can therefore be up to one cycle in length. EDIT:Also, Pico has not an Timed Event Interrupt function that could help in this case... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic wc1964, if you are using a GFX controller, there is a JMP function. You could jump the entire routine if the Stop signal from the encoder is not present. 001 | ----- | / | SLC-Willy, you're right .... really I'm also surprised to have written Timed Interrupt... :smileysurprised: Maybe I was thinking other when replying....:smileymad: Anyway I've corrected my previous post, thanks...and apologize for the confusion :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-L55 Series Are there series A and series B for 1756-L55 controller? If not, is it possible to set up a redundant system with any 2 1756-L55Mxx controllers (where Mxxs are identical) on the same redundant system fimware platform? ### Assistant: There isn't series B on -L55 controllers.... So you may realize what you asked for ...Anyway the rule is that the processors should be identical... Aid 19232 could give useful infos... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: XP SP3 Compatibility, Fact or Fiction? Windows XP SP3 has been out for quite some time now, going on several years in fact. I keep hearing that the developers are still testing most of the software to run on this platform. Does anyone know at what release level and what time frame will Rockwell Software products be compatible with this service pack, if ever?It is becoming ridiculous at this point to continually tell customers to uninstall SP3, especially when all new non-Rockwell PCs are coming with XP SP3 installed. Most manufacturers do not have the option to install anything other than XP SP3 or Vista. IT departments are not amused by the fact that they need to maintain two levels of OS installations to conform to the specifications of one software provider.Another excuse I do not need to hear is how the competitors have the same issues. I would think this would be motivation for Rockwell to figure out a solution to be a step ahead of the competition and to use this to our advantage to win sales.I am beginning to believe that Rockwell Software will never be completely compatible with SP3. Another frustrating issue I have is that I cannot find any information on why SP3 is not compatible. Is it modifications to the security model? Is it a change in code? No one seems to have any answers. A white paper or service document would be nice to have reference to. I have been asked by customers on many occasions on specific reasons why SP3 is not compatible. It would be nice to be able to give them some kind of answer. If there is a document out there that I am not aware of, would someone please point me in the right direction? I do not need the compatibility listing as I already have that. I look forward to any feedback. ### Assistant: Unfortunately, in my experience at least, there isn't one or two things that SP3 breaks that you can point to. In fact, I've had two computers sitting side by side, both with SP3 and one works and one doesn't. SP3 just likes to do weird things. Rockwell doesn't claim SP3 support just because of this behavior. That said, since it does work sometimes, I always tell folks to just try it first. If it works, count your blessings from the software gods and move on. :) If it doesn't work, then it's time to start cursing Gates and Co. for doing such weird things in SP3. JHutch The plain answer, as I see it, is no. It is more likely that RA will jump to Vista compatibility before SP3. It appears to be mostly linked to the Security updates. You can alway tell your customers to reinstall the RA software instead. I have been 50% lucky with that method. I have not updated this laptop with anything from MS since SP3 came out for fear of crashing again. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 700 AC Drive - Fault 24 - Decel Inhibit Here's the story, We have (3) Powerflex 700 Drives installed in a cooling tower, powering (3) 60hp Fan Motors. 2 of them run fine - 1 we are having a problem with. It has happened in the past, and has either corrected itself (unlikely) or we have done something to correct the problem (undocumented - electrician's fault :) ). It is going into a fault 24 - Decel Inhibit - The drive is not following a commanded deceleration because it is attempting to limit bus voltage. All 3 fans are set up identically - This fault's Actions are as follows: 1. Verify input voltage is within drive specified limits. - Input voltage is fine on all 3 drives. 2. Verify system ground impedance follows proper grounding techniques. - All 3 drives are grounded to the same bus bar. 3. Disable bus regulation and/or add dynamic brake resistor and/or extend deceleration time. Bus Regulation has been disabled. Deceleration time on this drive has been changed from default to 3600 seconds. Haven't done anything with a Dynamic Brake Resistor - don't understand what it is and I don't want it to Brake. I'm not concerned with the deceleration speed of the fan at all... Anyone have any other suggestions???????? Any other questions that need to be asked/answered ???? PS - Drive will run anywhere from 2 minutes to 10 minutes before faulting. ### Assistant: It is not clear to me what could be the cause... may be a defective part or firmware in that drive... Did you try to swap the motor commanded by this drive connecting it onto another one of the three? Just to check if the problem stays with that drive or moves where that motor is connected... Also, as a try, you may disable the fault annunciation using Parameter 238, to see if your application can be run anyway....(with caution...!) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Should have pointed that out earlier also..... We can drive this motor with one of the other drives. So we do know it is in the VFD/VSD. May try disabling the fault annunciation - may keep the unit running... won't solve the problem though! Looks like I need another unit, so I can send this one out for repair.... Thanks You stated that Bus Regulation is disabled. If you are trying to force Drive to decelerate motor at a set rate (decel time) and motor regens more voltage than the DC Bus can handle, the drive will fault with Decel Inhibit. Bus regulation allows the drive to apply more external brake resistor or allow drive frequency to ramp down at a slower rate than the Decel time, both monitor DC Bus to prevent drive from faulting. If you don't care how long it takes for motor to ramp down or don't want drive to attempt any braking, set stop mode to coast. Cranbarry, I'm agree with you... gmferg, also I'm agree about the using of a Coast to stop setting....but are you sure about the Decel Inhibit functionality you explain ? :smileytongue: I think that, if Bus Regulation is OFF, the drive will not try to limit bus voltage during deceleration, so that in the case where you are trying to force Drive to decelerate motor at a set rate (decel time) and motor regens more voltage than the DC Bus can handle, the drive will fault with OVERVOLTAGE fault F5. Isn't it ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Deceleration is not the problem - I believe it is a problem in the drive itself. I can run this motor with another drive without any issues. All 3 units are set-up identically. Stop mode = coast (always has been) - Thanks though. We had a drive fault of 24 also. We tried increasing decel time and also the bus voltage. Then the local distributor stopped in with a braking resistor. We installed made a couple of parameter changes and haven't had a problem since. It has been a couple months now. He thinks what was happening is there are 2 pumps in line and the pump kicking out couldn't slow down fast enough with the other pump pushing behind it. George n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1761-IF4 Operating Voltage I have an MLX-1200 with a 1761-IF4 module with 1 4-20 ma input and 1 -10 - 10v input.The system is powered by a 24 vdc battery system with solar panel charging.During the night the voltage drops to around 23 vdc and it seems weloose the capablity of the1761-IF4 to peform the A/D conversions. The MLX-1200 is running because we are scanning the processor over acell data circuit.The MLX-1200 should operate down to 21vdc.Should the 1761-IF4 be capable of operating within the range of the MLX. ### Assistant: Hi r - What happens during the night to the IF4 module that makes you think it has lost its capability to perform ADC? Do the inputs go to zero, max, or just stop updating? How are you certain that it is not reporting correct values during this time? The documentation for this module leads me to believe that your input voltage is ok albeit slightly low. Could you check the Sx, Ox, and Ux status bits during the time you think the ADC is not functioning properly? For a reference to the data table layout, go to the 1762-IF4 Installation Instructions publication on page 14. Here is a link to the referenced document -- > http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/1762-in012_-en-p.pdf n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-L55 Controllers Redundancy ControlLogix redundancy system could be set up with one 1756-L55M12 and one 1756-L55M13? ### Assistant: No, you can't. Here a statement in Aid 19232 Each processor pair must be the same firmware revision and memory configuration Take also a look to the screenshot from Redundancy User Manual page 29... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Safety Instruction Safety L6XS for SafeOff (dual channel Output - single channel feedback input) Hello, I'm looking for a safety instruction in my L62S that can handle the safe-off functionality as follows:- Safe-Off switching done by 2 safety outputs (dual channel) to 2 relays on same SafeOff-board of K6000-drive- Feedback of Safe-Off status: 2 feedback contacts on SafeOff-board of K6000 drive are wired in series and put finally to 1 safety input. I thing about using the ROUT-instruction (redundant output instruction), that requires 2 feedback contacts together with 2 outputs.The 2 outputs are no problem. But for the 2 feedback contacts (inputs) in the ROUT-instruction, I thought about using for Feedback1- and Feedback2-field the same safety Input. So far so good.Then I read the help function of the Rout instruction again and saw that it will do Pulse-checking on both inputsignals (feedback1 and feedback2-inputs).If it makes pulse checking according SIL3/CAT4 on both inputs what will the instruction do when there are 2times the same input configured? Will it go in error?Can I have a similar safety instruction with no Pulse testing on the 2 feedback input signals, or a similar safety instruction for dual channel safety output with single channel feedback input? Regards,Frank V. ### Assistant: Hi Frank, Pulse checking is done by configuring the safety in- and outputs, it has nothing to do with the ROUT function.If the input is configured for testpulse and that input does not get the correct testpulse signal, it will fail. So your solution is to configure only one feedback signal for testpulse. Only one testpuls output goes to your feedback input. In your ROUT block, use the input for both feedbacks and you are ready. p.s.Testpuls is mainly used for more diagnosis. Your application will also work without testpuls. Success,Cya Hi Cee Ya, Thanks for this reply. It was very helpfull! Regards,FV. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Recipe Plus with 757 ingredients Each recipe I have has 757 ingredients. All recipes us the same tag data. During trials, with values in the first 60 ingredients I had no problems. No I'm onsite and I get Download with errors with values in 360 ingredients. I am using Recipe Plus to populate 10 main tags and a 5 x 150 array. The recipes are on the CF Card. After a download the PLC data does not seem correct, but when I reopen the recipe it is. Is this a communication timing issue? My ControlLogix L61S System Overhead Time Slice is set at 20%. ### Assistant: I had a similar problem with RSView32's RecipePro. In that case, we traced the problem to a communication throughput problem. Unfortunately for you, we were using RSLinx Classic, which allowed us to limit the maximum number of packets, reducing the hit on the network and processor. I'd recommend starting by looking in your FactoryTalk diagnostic log. Are you seeing any communication-related errors (other than the Download with errors message)? If possible, put the controller into Program mode, which will give you 100% communication timeslice and will potentially lessen the load on the network by not firing any MSG instructions that might be a part of the program. If your FactoryTalk Studio computer is on the same network as the PV+, I'd try removing the RSLinx Enterprise data server and adding an RSLinx Classic OPC server. This will require you to have topics with exactly the same name and processor as the original RSLE shortcut. Now when you test on the development computer, you will have the benefit of the RSLinx Classic diagnostics. Check the Communication Events under the RSLinx Classic DDE/OPC menu - maybe you will find a more descriptive message. You can now also modify the topic's Data Collection tab to set Limit Maximum Packets to a much smaller value (maybe 5). Then retest and see if this helps. This procedure will at least tell you if your problem is a comms throughput issue. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Auto logout or log out after defined time. Hi, This is manish,Goodevening, Can u please let me know auto logout feature or logout after a specified period of time of inactivity , can be done in RSview32 . If yes, how i can do that. Is there any application note available. Thanks & Regards, Manish Goyal ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 23830, it could help....(also Aid 48268) You may use the Logout command in it to obtain what you need. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Manish, The tech note that Fuzzy Logic referenced will definitely do the trick, but I've found that the RSView32 Screen Saver is easier to use for this purpose. It is installed as part of the RSView32 Resources CD, which is a separate install from RSView32 itself. If you have this installed, all you need to do is configure your computer's screen saver to be the RSView32 Screen Saver, which will now appear as one of the available screen savers, right along with Windows XP, Starfield, etc. Just click the Settings button and you can configure a command that gets automatically executed when the screen saver triggers. In your case, the command could be Logout (which will return you to the Default user), or you could Login some specific default user. Hope this helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Active homing on torque level How does the active homing on torque level work?The typically set for the torque level in the homing tab of the axis properties does not match the torque level the axis is using to do the homing sequence. ### Assistant: Did you see the Application Manual at this LINK ? It could be useful to understand how it works.... also, it may be useful if you can give some more details about your sequence and your doubts... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SSV to manipulate Conversion Constant Axis properties I have a single Ultra 3000 drive moving a piston pump through a ball screw programmed with RSLogix 5000 and PV Plus HMI. I have the system scaled in milliliters. At different times I want to install a different volume size piston pump while the stroke length remains the same. I need to be able to write a new conversion constant to the Axis properties. I have been told that an SSV can do this. But I can not even locate the conversion constant attribute in the Axis tag. Has any one ever done something like this and can you offer some suggestions? ### Assistant: After you've inserted the SSV instruction in your application program, fill in its fields as follows: Class = AXIS Instance = Axis name from motion group. Attribute = ConversionConstant Source = REAL tag Also take a look to Motion Modules User Manual at page 298 for other infos... and take a look to the attached screenshot... Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic Thanks for the input. I have tried your recommendation but when I verify the routine it comes back as an error: SSV, operand 2: Invalid reference to unknown attribute. I can't even find the Conversion Constant as I drill down into my axis tag. Could there be any difference in that I am using a Compact Logix platform with Sercos interface? My bad. I got it. It works. Thank you! Ok, it was so strange to me.... :smileysurprised: I'm just happy that works.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Log question I have several Data Log models set up, all set for On Demand. I've noticed that a set of data is logged every time a Data Log is started or stopped. Is there any way configure a Data Log so that it doesn't log any data on starting or stopping? I currently filtering out the extra data using the Marker field, but it would be nice if I could prevent the extra data from being logged in the first place. ### Assistant: Sorry, TavMaster-T, but those markers are in place so that the datalog model knows whether or not the model was shut down improperly. For example if I open the file and find that I have a set of B markers and then another set of B markers, the model knows that it was shut down improperly (because there should always be a set of M markers. The only solution is to filter out the unwanted records, which is what you are already doing. Er, scratch that reference to M markers - should have been E for End marker. Oops... Ya, I noticed that I always get a set marked B when a data log starts and an set marked E when it ends. Would have been nice if there were a way to disable those. I guess filtering will have to do. Thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1200, 1762-L40BWAR Hi all,Is there a way to increase memory in ML1200.I am worried that I might run out of space with my program.Any thoughts other than going with different PLC?Thanks. ### Assistant: Unfortunately it isn't possible... :smileysad: they have fixed size of memory.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to test controllogix 1756 L61 Hello everyone, I'll be flying to India next month to attend a FAT (Factory Acceptance Test) forproject I'm working on. A part of the test includes checking the functionality ofControllogix1756 L61 and its physical part as well. I don't have that experience in this PLC. if there is a testing procedure or a testing practice to be shared, I will be thankful. Best regards, C.S.C ### Assistant: First I have to say it is not so easy if you have never used it and RSLogix 5000...anyway, try to take a look to the Quick Start Manual as it could be useful to test your PLC. Also, the Installation Manual for your controller and I suggest for all the modules you have in your plant.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Reading 1336 VFD over ethernet possible? This may be a dumb question but I see a 1336 VFD drive in my RSwho, but I can't right click on it and see a data monitor. I can use a browser to it's IP and see data there, speed, faults etc. If I wanted to use OPC or ABR to read the data from this drive over ethernet and put it on SCADA,, how can I do that? ### Assistant: Splash,Yes you can do read data vaues from 1336 drive and put it on scada.you have to create topic in rslinx depending upon the type of processor and n/w used.and in the scada link the drive tags to scada tags.hope it helps....:smileywink: this is not part fo a PLC, its a 1203-EN1 interface. I created the topics but I cant get good data quality Any more ideas? Splash, here following the procedure I use to retrieve data from a PowerFlex 40 with Ethernet/IP module via OPC.... unfortunately I have not the possibility to test exactly your configuration, as I have not a 1203-EN1 and a 1336 VFD... anyway it should work the same way, as the PCCC objects inside Ethernet/IP modules are similar... just have a try and let me know... :smileywink: 1. Create an RSlinx DDE/OPC Topic, pointing to the Ethernet module of your drive, and configure it as indicated in the screenshot (SLC5/03+)2. Open an OPC client (for example the OPC Test Client that come installed on your PC when you install RSLinx Classic), connect it to the RSLinx OPC Server, create a new Group and some Items, as indicated in the screenshot.... Item Name should be inserted manually, inside square brackets you have to put the OPC Topic name, and then the Nxx:xx address as indicated in the 1203-EN1 manual Appendix C (starting from N10:1, see also attached screenshot...)3. Enjoy your data.... :smileyvery-happy: Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic I did all that using a PLC5 type, I even did it again following your instructions using the SLC-503. The items have to be entered by hand, and the test client accepts them, but the quality is always BAD. Hmmmm.... that's strange.... just a question, I know it is a silly question, but just to exclude all possibilities... :smileywink: are you using an RSLinx different than Lite version ? :smileysurprised: RSLinx Classic Lite is not an OPC server... - fuzzy logic I am using Classic Professional v2.51.00.21 Ok.... may you please attach some screenshot of your RSLinx OPC Topic configuration? Also, in RSLinx DDE/OPC menu, drill down and select what is indicated in the following screenshot... there are some diagnostic tools there, and please attach also these to your post. Thanks,- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Firmware I will be upgrading the firmware in our 21 processors soon from various editions to 16.02 soon. any one have any horror stories I should know.Thanks ### Assistant: Make sure you have a current copy of the program and ALOT of time. rebuild the io-tree, cause many io modules do not allow to change the firmware revision. (this means all msg instructions and producted/consumed must be checked again)motion: all motion instruction have a new parameter: jerk.upgading drives: they might loose their absolute reference status, so you might need to home them again.old io-modules might not be available in the V16 io tree... So, like already said: you need a lot of time and patience!:smileywink: success!CYA Barnes&NobleJoe, I know this is marked as an acceptable solution but here is an important thought to consider - Refer to the Release Notes of the target firmware revision prior to undertaking (no pun intended) such a process as this. Be aware that your memory requirements increase when updating to later firmware revisions. Thanks for the feedback and very helpful info.I had not thought about the I/O , I will definintly need to read up on it and the steps needed.Thanks again n"}
{"text": "### Human: 2711P-B10C6B1 PanelViewPlus in Purge Panels Is it possible to install Panel View Plus Model 2711P-B10C6B1 (key pad and Touch Screen version) in Purge panels which has pressure of Inch of wc? Only panel view is mounted on the panel door and only rear portion of PVP is exposed to this pressure. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to User Manual, Appendix A for all the Panelview Plus Specifications... Also technotes 41129 and 47137 could help... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView 2711-K9A5 Downloading files.- Is there a way to use a 1747-UIC? We have an over-seas customer who needs to load a file into an old Panelview 2711. The memory card reader on the Panelview does not seem to be working, so transfering the file that way will not work. The Panelview currently works, but the screens are all in the wrong language. I sent him a file with the correct language, he now just needs to download it. This Panelview was before the multiple language support was available on Panelviews, so all of our different languages are different files for this machine. Has anyone managed to upload/download files to a 2711-Kx9A Panelview using a UIC module and what software/versions of Panelview and RS-Linx did you use to do it? ### Assistant: I can't see particular issues on using it with Panelbuilder32....you need a 2711-NC13 cable and about RSLinx, take a look to Aid 38757 - Aid 43246 ... newer versions have a dedicated driver for it, anyway you may also use it with older versions with RS-232 DF1 driver. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I've sent the technician some setup instructions for the UIC from the Knowlege base, If they can download the file I'll mark this as solved. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Accessing Alarm Object Buttons through VBA Hello all - is it possible to activate alarm object pushbuttons (like Execute or Identify) via VBA? Thanks! ### Assistant: ... or is it possible to determine the currently selected/highlighted Alarm in an Alarm Control? Sorry, the alarm summary object does not expose any significant properties via VBA Same answer here. The Alarm Summary object is basically an OLE embedded object, no real access to it programmatically. Now if you were talking FactoryTalk View SE v5.0, the Alarms and Events objects tend to have more acess. So which product are we talking about? Jonathan, I guess it is RSView32, as all other threads started by this user are related to it.... so... no Alarm & Events... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Thank you both for the replies, and sorry (again) for not specifying that it is in fact RSView32 7.5 :(. We are really having trouble with the Acknowledge Current function of the Alarm Summary Object. All of our alarm tags have an Acknowledge tag associated with it that should get set by RSView32 when clicking the Acknowledge Current button (as defined in the tag configuration). The Acknowledge tag directly unlatches the associated alarm bit in the PLC. This just does not seem to work reliably (i.e.: often times the alarm will turn blue in the alarm summary indicating it has been acknowledged, but the alarm does not reset at the PLC level as if it does not receive the setting of the Acknowledge tag. It also seems once an alarm is acknowledge (i.e.: blue in the summary), but not reset in the PLC - it will not attempt to set the Acknowledge tag again on subsequent Acknowledge Current operations. Not to mention the built-in buttons of the alarm summary object are flaky in general - sometimes they do not register a click despite being clicked. Very frustrating. I was hoping to instead not use the built-in buttons for the Alarm Summary object and instead use my own with some VBA scripting - but it would require knowledge of the selected alarm tag. Does anyone know of any 3rd party ActiveX alarm controls for RSView32? Thanks again... I have just posted talking about the same question. Here is one approach that may work (messy though). Enable the Execute button on the alarm lsummary object (you can rename it to ack/reset etc later). In the command line that pops up call your vba function and pass it the tag name of the alarm (the option is available as one of the checkboxes on the prompt) . in your vba function give rsview the command invoke Display name.alarmeventsummary1.AckSelected() through the command interface. (This takes care of acknowledging the alarm on the rsview side) then in the rest of your vb function you can set your ack tag through code ieset myAckTag = gtagdb.gettag(nameOfMyAckTag )myAckTag.value = 1or alternatively generate a tag dynamically and point it to the ack bit (that way you don't have to slow down RSView and your network with hundreds of otherwise unnecessary alarm acknowledge tags). Note that this isn't very efficient since there will be a delay for the tag to update. I would definitely NOT use this to acknowledge lots of alarms at once... use a plc based 'acknowledge all' routine. If this works then please kudos! :smileywink: (and mark issue as solved) Cheers Alex Edit: this may not be possible. I was looking at A48785 when I wrote this and it may only be a factorytalkview option. I couldn't get the invoke call to work on my server :smileysad: AlexW, the technote you referenced is for FactoryTalk View SE, and will not work with RSView32...It refers to a new service that comes with FactoryTalk, that is Alarm & Events, and the summary mentioned there is not the Alarm Summary you have in RSView32. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: panelview 1000 communications Hello, I am having a problem with our panelview 1000 (ethernet, v4.2) I have no problems getting the panelview to read tags from all our plc's except for one. They are all on the same network and can see them all in linx. The only difference is all the plc's are plc5 40e and the one I can not communicate with is a plc5 60b with an ethernet side card. I am using Panelbuilder v3.82. I checked the communications and made sure the ip address was correct, even deleted it and tryed it again. I also had to do some changes in a rsview project in the same room and have no problems seeing the tags. Any help appreciated. ### Assistant: Just another question to try to better help... do you get a comm error code on PV ? Which One? And also, have you the following ? The 1785-ENET must be series A revision D, or series B rev A, or later. This condiction should be in conjunction with the following series of the processor: series E rev D.1 series D rev E.1 series C rev N.1 Thanks....- fuzzy logic Thanks for responding, the ethernet card is Ser A firmware rev CProcessor is plc5/60 serB rev P.1 The only error on the Panelview is 634 read time out ip 192.123.57.140 which is the processor ip address Looks like I have to upgrade the firmware for the ethernet card,Any idea where I could get information on how and where I could get the upgrades.Thanks again. Iggy, your error is documented in Aid 32783 (firmware is too old) you have to upgrade both... Aid 14976 - PLC-5 firmware infoAid 44966 - 1785-ENET firmware info Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for all your help.We had a new card in stock and tried it out, its working:smileyhappy:We will get the other one upgraded.Thanks again for your fast responces. Ok Iggy, I'm happy that works.... just may you move the solution mark on my post please ? :smileywink: edit: In order to change the Solution mark position, you have first to Uncheck the previous marked post, using the option menu on the right side of that post (see screenshot)...then you may mark the post you want... Thanks for your feedback and cooperation ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic ok I am feeling really dumb, but how do I move the solution mark n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 how to use VBA to acknowledge current alarm Hi I'm trying to figure out how to acknowledge a selected alarm through vba. It looks like this is covered in Answer ID 48785 but I can't figure out the part where it says Expose the Alarm and Event summary object and Button to VBA by right clicking on the object select property panel and set ExposeToVBA to VBA Control. where is the object select property panel?? I'm not sure if the technote even refers to RSView32. The other avenue of approach that I am trying is to use the Execute button to call a VB routine and pass it the name of the tag that is in alarm. The problem with this is that I don't know how to acknowledge the tag's alarm without using the alarm summary action mentioned in Answer 48785. Looking through object explorer at the tag object there is only one item there that looks like a possibility and thats the 'acknowledge' event. I'm not sure of the syntax here but I'm presuming that it would be something like this: Set myTag = gTagDb.GetTag(AlarmsAL1)RaiseEvent myTag.acknowledge One last avenue of approach that I am thinking about is to use the Execute button and put the statementinvoke Display name.alarmeventsummary1.AckSelected() in front of my VB code. This will get me to where I need to be but its starting to get a bit messy when I have to include RSView scripting commands as part of my code... I'd prefer to be able to work with the object model in VB only as much as possible. Any ideas would be most appreciated. Alex ### Assistant: AlexW, the technote you referenced is for FactoryTalk View SE, and will not work with RSView32...:smileysad:It refers to a new service that comes with FactoryTalk, that is Alarm & Events, and the summary mentioned there is not the Alarm Summary you have in RSView32. Also, another note: if you want to use the Execute button to ACK the selected alarm in the summary, you may do as indicated in the screenshot... but it is not necessary, as you already have a button called Ack Current that does it... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Yes but the Ack Current does not allow me to handle acknowledging the alarms through vba which is the objective. To get around this I set my button up like the way it's set out in the image I've attached (Note that the Ack Current Button is really just the execute button renamed).Then in the VBA code I call back to the application Sub AckCurrent(ByVal mytagname As String) Dim mycommand As Command gCommand.Execute (Acknowledge  + mytagname) 'do other stuff associated with custom alarming End Sub Seems simple in retrospect but the trouble is figuring out which combination of vba / rsview scripting you have to use to get to where you need to go. Nevermind though got there in the end. Thanks for your help. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk and Virtual PC installation I would like to install FactoryTalk View Site Edition 5.0 to develop some custom user interfaces. I have never used FactoryTalk, so this will be my first installation. I read somewhere that Rockwell uses Virtual PC for training installations, although it is not officially supported. Can I get good results with FactoryTalk and Virtual PC? If not, will FactoryTalk install well and not cause problems on a PC that is also used for other types of development? Thanks, Frank ### Assistant: Normally, you should have no problems installing FactoryTalk View on an XP machine that is also used for other application programs... but you know, Windows OS could always be a surprise... :smileytongue: Just don't use it with XP SP3 or Vista as they are not officially supported yet...see this LINK for Compatibility.... Anyway I'm using VMWare Virtual Machine with Win XP SP2 and also many collegues and customers of mine without problems...it works just perfectly... (but it is not supported yet - Aid 30209 ) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Haven't tried it with VirtualPC, but I know that ME and SE tech support use VMWare all the time with the FactoryTalk View Studio packages... JHutch I've used both Microsoft's Virtual PC and VMWare - both are invaluable for developing using multiple O/S & product versions. I prefer VMWare because of the Snapshot feature - I can save a copy of my configuration at a particular moment in time, then try installing something (maybe a new Rockwell s/w version, maybe a Microsoft patch, etc). If I run into trouble, I can just revert to my saved snapshot - life is great! Someday I hope Rockwell supports this in a runtime environment - I'd buy an 800P red palm button, label it EASY and find a way for it to trigger a revert to a saved good image. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rotary to Linear Motion any Ideas? ### Assistant: Try a virtual Axis as the position on the linear axis (Axis 1) Axis 2 is the Angular Position of the CAM Create a MAPC to copy the effect of the physical CAM (Look up COS rule to calculate values) Tie Axis 2 to Axis 1 via the MAPC Control the motion via Axis 1 Problems that you need to think aboutHoming When to engage the MAPC Overrotation of the Angular Position End of travel limits n"}
{"text": "### Human: Multiple selectable Master Axis, One slave I have four identical stations that represent an Auxillary Feedback Axis to my system. The operator selects the station the slave axis is positioned at. I switch the station encoder to one of two axis (stations 1 & 2 to Axis A aux feedback and stations 3 or 4 to Axis B aux feedback). I now want to do a MAPC and slave an axis to the selected station. This program was based on a single station that I have converted to run at four stations. However, I programmed the MAPC for Axis A Aux feedback (stations 1 or 2) and now need to run at the other two stations (3 or 4). I would prefer to only have the one MAPC and switch in the appropriate Aux feedback axis as the master. I thought I could use a Virtual Axis in the MAPC and two MAG instructions to gear in the appropriate axis, but I see notes that the MAG only works with physical axis. Is this true? Is there another way around having a second MAPC? I have a lot of overhead (alarms, permissives, latches, etc.) surrounding the Cam instruction and would like to avoid duplicating it. ### Assistant: Not True MAG work on virtual axis (so does MAPC and MATC) Your plan should work Master -> Virtual via MAPC Virtual -> Correct Slave via MAGOR if I misunderstood the application Master -> Virtual Master via MAG Virtual Master - > Virtual Slave via MAPC Virtual slave -> Physical Slave via MAGBe aware there are scan delays based on your group update time One group update time per virtual slave Yeah, I MAG the master to the virtual then intend to MAPC the virtual. Just going by the help. I think it'll work also. Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: the difference between 1786-RG6 & 1786-RG6F How is the difference between cable 1786-RG6 and 1786-RG6F ? In which case we should use 1786-RG6 and In which case we should use 1786-RG6F? ### Assistant: RG-6 is standard cable used for Controlnet applications. RG-6F is RG-6 cable for flex applications such as festooning. Also, you may find some specific informations of the two cables in Aid 48330 and Aid 43243 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 Emulator show only one decimal point in REAL data Type I am using RSLogix 5000 Emulator ver. 16. In this controller in floating caculations it shows only one digit after decimal point. i.e If i'm dividing 102 by 100 it shows only 1.0 not 1.02. Help!!!!!!!!!!! ### Assistant: The Emulator seems to do math differently than the controllers. I am not sure if it is documented or not but the result of integers in a calculation seems to only give integer results. If you divide 102.0 by 100.0 you will get the correct result. In fact if either of the numbers in the calculation are Type REAL numbers you will get 1.02 as the result. Just to advise this seems solved in RSEmu5k v17.... see attached screenshot... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 Road ahead Does Rockwell have a page where they write about what they are working with forthe next version of RSLogix 5000? It would be great to know what to look foward too... ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Serial printer with micrologix 1000 I want know if is possible print reports using a serial printer with micrologix 1000(without PC or panelview). Now I have a Epson TMU 220 printer, but if you can helpme with another kinds of printer it`s mucho usefull to me. thank you for you time ### Assistant: Arael, here you ask about Micrologix 1000, and this is my post # 1000 in the Forum !:smileyvery-happy: (let me have this short self-glory moment...! :smileytongue: ) After that, I have a sad news for you... Micrologix 1000 doesn't support ASCII protocol over its serial port, that is needed to obtain what you need (Aid 41007)... I'm afraid to have to say this in this post... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Thank you soo much Fuzzy Logic. Now can I you ask something similar, now I try to send ascii char to a printer o better send a report directy using a Micrologix(1100, 1200, 1500) without a PC, PV or VV. I try see common articules on the forum but I not allow to see and I can't contact with my AB TechConnect support to my country if you have any information about this it's wellcome. Thank you ofr your time. You may use AWT instruction to obtain what you need...some infos are in the Instruction Reference Manual for these controllers... Also I've sent you a Private Message here in the Forum with some examples... open it using the envelope icon on right upper part of the Forum.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you soo much again Fuzzy, if you can send me a examples, I'll wainting for. Thank you soo mucho again and thanks for you time a pacient to me. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV Plus Screen Saver - White Goes to Black I am using a custom bitmap for my screen saver on a Panelview Plus 700. In the bitmap if there is any white, it shows up as black on the screen saver. Does anyone know what's up? ### Assistant: Really I'm not sure if the following may help, but just to try to help, there is something in Aid 28335 that seems to me could be correlated to your problem; here the text: The lower left pixel of the bitmap is used for transparency. When the bitmap appears on the screen, any part of it that matches the lower left pixel will be transparent (i.e. if the lower pixel is black, anything black on the rest of the bitmap will not be visible on the screen).If a portion of the bitmap is not appearing correctly, the pixel will need to be changed. This can be done on a computer that has Microsoft Paint installed on it. Once the bitmap is opened in Paint, zoom in to the lower left area (approximately 800%), and change the color using Paint tools. Just try if you want... open your bitmap file and try to look at that pixel.... maybe the solution is there... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Testing to see if a Button has focus in RSView VBA All, I am new to VBA and was wondering how you test to see if a button has focus in a Display with a VBA app. I am wanting to pop up a message box warning the operator before they press a button on the screen. ### Assistant: Hi Sonny, If by RSView VBA you mean FTView / RSView SE VBA, then the Button object has a GotFocus event. Draw a button, then right-click it and select VBA. This will open the VBA editor and by default places you in the Released event. If you look in the upper right corner of the VBA editor, you should see a Drop Down Box with the word Released in it. Click here and select the GotFocus event. At this point you can start entering your VBA code, which will execute once the Button object gets the focus. If you are talking RSView32, then you can't do this - RSView32 does not have a graphics object model. However, if you change your approach, you might be able to get the same result. Instead of directly attempting to run some command when you press the button, have that button display a secondary popup screen with words to the effect of Are you SURE you want to do this? Chaos may break out if you do!. On this popup, you could have a Yes I'm Sure button that does whatever you want, and a Cancel button that just aborts the popup, bringing you back to the original screen. Much easier and no VBA! BTW, both approaches will work for both products. Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Drive Resolution Calculation Hey Guys..!! I need to know how the Drive Resolution is calculated by the Calculate utility in the Drive/Motion Tab. Do anybody of you have the equations or formulas used for this? ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 21973 , it could be what you're searching for.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Not Really, basically the question is, which are the criteria used by the calculate utility in Drive/Motor Tab for servo axis for determinate the best resolution in RSLogix 5000? n"}
{"text": "### Human: The difference between 2711-NM15 & 2711-NM232 Besides memory size, is there any difference between 2711-NM15 and 2711-NM232 ? Can 2711-NM232 replace for 2711-NM15 ? ### Assistant: This replacement could not be possible...newer version of Panelview has not the necessary hardware to support NM1x cards... and also, prior to firmware version 3, the Panelview only support the NM1x card They are not just different for the memory size, but the hardware circuit; NM1x are Flash Memory Card (Databook formatted) and need 12 volt circuit in the Panelview, the NM2xxx are Flash ATA card. Take a a look to the following technotes, there are many useful infos about those memory cards: Aid 32780 - Aid 24694 - Aid 11343 The following screenshot has been taken from PV Standard User Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compact Logix 5323E-QB1 Ethernet Printer Not sure whether this is possible but here goes; I have a Compact logix PLC and a few pieces of kit on their own ethernet network. What I would like to do is place a printer on this network and print to it from my program.Is this possible and does anyone know of a printer to do the job. (the printer would only have to print 3 lin es of text and No's) ### Assistant: This isn't possible using the Ethernet/IP port of your PLC... as ASCII data will be encapsulated in CIP Ethernet message (CIP protocol) and the printer will not understand this....:smileysad: Only way is to use Open Socket feature of -EWEB module (Aid 33240 explains this for ControlLogix EWEB, the same is for CompactLogix EWEB module)... unfortunately this module isn't supported with your L23E CompactLogix processor... L43 is needed... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS 5000 V17 Lockup when pasting online Has anyone had this bug happen in V17. During an online edit, a couple of bits in one rung need to be copied and pasted in another. After the copy, a paste is attempted in another rung, if enabling edits on that rung were skipped, as soon as the paste initiated, the software locks up, and eventually shuts down. V16 and earlier dose not seam to have this issue. ### Assistant: Do you get an error message ? Which one ? Usually, there is a file where the Fatal Error is logged, at he following path: C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationRSLogix 5000LogsRSLogix 5000 Fatal Error.Dmp These informations could be useful to try to help you... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Coverting SLC 500 programs To Logix 5000 platforms Is there a document available on how to convert SLC programs to Logix 5000 programs? ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 42769.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rs logix 500 Software Revisions Where can i find a list of bugs,changes,fixes,added or removed features for rockwell software. Primarily Rslogix version history.I know you can get the notes when you install a different vesion the changes since the last version but is there a more complete list on the web? I am a couple major revs back and want to see what has been fixed or changed befor i upgrade ### Assistant: Take a look in the Knowledgebase, using as Search By Keyword rslogix 500 releaseand select Exact Search in Search By. See the screenshot... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you n"}
{"text": "### Human: Parameter Files and FactoryTalkView SE Just wondering if anyone has done indirect tag addressing inside a parameter file. I have a global object that is on a popup that is using parameter file when the popup is called. The display button right now looks like thisAbort Pop Up GasDetectors; Display Pop Up GasDetectors /PCG1 Inside parameter file CG1 - I would like to use a string HMI tag that is set when a certain button is pushed on the HMI to load the ### Assistant: The issue here is that you can only do one level of indirection. The parameter parsing algorithm removes the #1 and replaces it with what you specified in the parameter file - it does not then evaluate the parameter file to see if you want to specify the value of the tag instead of the name of the tag. Maybe you can do your indirection on the front end of the equation - call up a different parameter file based on the value of a string tag. See tech note 41991 for an example. Using your example, you would execute the following commands:Abort Pop Up GasDetectors;Display Pop Up GasDetectors /P$SomeStringTag$ If the value of SomeStringTag is set to CG1, you would pass parameter file CG1 with its hard-coded tag reference for #1. Next time, you might set the value of SomeStringTag to CG2 with a different tag reference. I think that will do the trick. Thanks for the response - I don't think it is possible the way I want to do it - I was looking to see If I use quotes or $ signs inside the parameter file to look at the value of the tag instead of looking at it literally. I have already used your suggestion to open up another popup inside my first popup and still use the same parameter file, but not to change the actual tag to the plc being indirect inside the parameter file. Thanks for the help - n"}
{"text": "### Human: ActiveX Help for Writing To Tag I am not that great at ActiveX with RsViewSE nor do i do a lot of ActiveX'ing. I have managed to get my control to READ tag values and set this to my text box - works great.I cannot get the reverse to happen - My text box change event occurs but what do i need to do to get the TAG i have linked in RsViewSE to get updated. I just need as simple an explanation - couple lines of code & I should be able to run with it. Thanks ### Assistant: I'll be honest - I haven't done this since the `90s, but back when I did this, I used the approach in tech note 4045. The technote and attached sample project are for RSView32, but the principles should still apply to FTView SE. Maybe you could import the RSView32 project into SE and see how it goes. Hope this helps. I do NOT see any of the attachments you mentioned for the RsView32 project - i'll attempt to find the technot on A/B site in knowledgebase.At least thanks for trying to help. Follow this link to Aid 4045 .... in the lower part of the technote there is a .zip file to download... See the screenshot... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks very much for the help - it got me rolling on onto more difficult things! n"}
{"text": "### Human: the fault LED start to blinking of my 1761-L16BWA I have a brand new from box 1761-L16BWA model plc, by mistake and when I want to to connect the input i did some sort citcuit between the positive and negative terminals of the 24V on board power supply, and as a reslut the fault LED start to blinking, how can I fix this problem dears and deep thanks ### Assistant: May you also please report the status of the other leds on your PLC ? - fuzzy logic thanks, the Power led is ON, and the fault is flasing, the run is off, and the force off. thnaks again for your help. So, following the screenshot that indicates there is an Application fault that should be investigated connecting to the PLC using RSLogix500..and searching for the Fault Code and Info... Did you try to measure if the 24V is still present on the PLC terminals? If not, the internal PS could be damaged and maybe this will also cause other problems... Anyway, the best is to connect to it to monitor which is the fault... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thanks, i got this screen shot, and i will try it on Sunday the PS still giving 24 VDC, i will try to connect it with the RSLogix500 and to clear the fault, and other mentioned things, thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: Trying to re-start a recent buyed CNC with an allan-bradley programmable controller Hi,We juste bought 4 Willemin-Macodel CNC witch has Num750 PLC and Allan-Bradley controllers. When first put on, we got some kind of problem regarding memory access... Since we bought used cnc, I am wonderring if there should be missing some memory chip somewhere (probably previous owner removed them to keep their files safe??) On the Allan bradley controller, the CPU FAULT led was on... The controller is a SLC 500 with an ethernet port, when I open a panel on the left, just next to a fuse, there is an empty socket... (I have a picture of it...) Thanks! ### Assistant: Just about the socket.... is it the one indicated in red in my screenshot below ? If it is, you have to make a jumper in the position related to your line power voltage... see also screenshot... - fuzzy logic Here's a picture! Ah, ok...this is an old Fixed SLC controller... I suggest to download the User Manual and check the exact status of the controller leds, following the troubleshooting chapter 8... so that you may have a more clear diagnosis... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Great! Looks like it's effectively a memory module is missing (p.59 of the user manual) Have you any suggestion regarding the module I should get? 1747-M1 or -M2 or M3 ??? Thanks! charlo, that memory module is used for backup, and is optional... (pages 22 - 30) What I can suspect is that the controller has lost the program that was in RAM (due to the fact there wasn't a memory backup module), so now it is in fault as it has not a program inside...mounting a Module will not solve this situation ! :smileysad: Please check the led status of your PLC, to better understand the situation...After that I think you'll need to get the application program to load in it, and also you need the software (RSLogix 500) and an interface to connect to it (1747-UIC) :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi, I think you're right, machines have been sitting for 3-4 years... I guess I should get a battery also... So I should get this kind of connector and RSLogix 500. We've got some floppy with the machines so I guess the program should be on it... Is an ethernet cable will fit or there is a special cable between the 1747-UIC and the DH485?? Is RSLogix available there?? Thanks, Yeah.... cable is indicated in the document you've linked, 1747-C13...anyway, a normal Ethernet patch cable will work with it....You may download the software from here , if you have a valid Tech Connect contract... or you have to order it to your Rockwell Software representative (9324-RL0300ENE). Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Charlo, Just wanted you to understand that there is no ethernet port on this controller. The port you are referring to is a DH-485 port. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix5000 issue after Drive AOP installation I've installed new Drive AOP 2.01 in RSLogix5000 v17. After that, I'm not able to open Module Definition in General Properties for a drive, using Change button. I press it, but nothing happens ! Did anybody else find this issue ? Any help will be appreciated... - fuzzy logic ### Assistant: I did have some funky stuff happen around this also. I downloaded the Powerflex70 EC Drivetools SP database files which installs straight from the web. Evidently it didn't install correctly eventhough it said sucessful installation. I did it again and the error went away. Somewhere in the background, it seems, the drive database files are linked to the AOP's. After I reinstalled the 70 EC database files, I reinstalled the 2.01 AOP files and rebooted and it works ok. After installing the PFlex70EC database files, I got errors in ANY version...15, 16, and 17. After the second time around and rebooting it seems like the new drive profiles are added and my errors went away. One of the files buried deep in the database folder (C:Program FilesRockwell AutomationCommonComponentsB_0001L_0000F_00320000FW0030020008.ddb to be exact) was giving Logix fits. After acknowledging the error about 20 times, it went into the drive properties but then errored again. It seems a lot of things are tied to these common database files and if they get corrupt due to a bad install, it hoses up a lot more than anyone realizes. I know it doesn't relate to your particular issue but it may point the way to what the actual culprit is. fordtt, thanks for your comment... :smileywink: I've tried to uninstall Drive AOP 2 and reinstall it, but the issue still was there... :smileysad: So I've solved this uninstalling the AOP, installing Drive Executive v5, and after that reinstalling Drive AOP 2... now it works fine. :smileysurprised: So, now the questions are:Is it necessary to install Drive Executive 5 first, and then Drive AOP 2 ?Does the drive AOP 2 work without Drive Executive ? - fuzzy logic I would have a tendancy to believe that the AOP would work without Drive Explorer BUT they do share the same database files since it is these database files that also allow you to upload and view drive parameters from within RSLogix5k. Common sense would make you think the AOP's were for adding I/O to the config tree and not in combination with Drive Explorer. One of our clients can view the drive parameters and he doesn't have the new AOP version installed so maybe there's a problem between the new version AND Drive Explorer. Sounds like another anomoly. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Motion control in Controllogix program I'm struggling to formulate what it is that I actually want to ask/know, so please bear with me! What I'm trying to get at is... what is the purpose of there being a dedicated Motion Task Is this the only place one should put programs/routines which contains motion commands? If so why? I'm looking at an application that will use a limited amount of motion control to carry out operations 'on demand' when required to do so by various parts of the process. E.g. at some point the process will require an axis to move from A to B, it will wait for that to move to complete, and then go on to the next stage (which may or may not involve some more motion control). Should I put all programs/routines which contain motion commands in the Motion Task and all others in the Main (or other) Task? That might not be a very logical way of dividing up my system. Maybe there is some doc which will help me with this? Mike ### Assistant: Hopefully, I have understood your question/concern. The control logix processor can multi task. You can have many tasks in the Main task area or have tasks that are periodic or event driven. All tasks in the main run at the same time. Periodic task run defined by their time setting. Event task run when a defined event happens. Each task in the main can have its priority set to different levels. There is not a task type that is defined as a Motion Task. You can organize your task to put all motion in the same task so that it is easier to locate, test, and modify. Also, the main controller has certain priority when it comes to the execution of certain instruction. The motion instructions which go to the motion planner part the processor have the highest priority. But that priority is different then the task priorities. Motion has the highest priority because of the moving items need to have attention so as to not get off track or target. Hope this helped. Thanks that does help. Every sample program I have looked at has all of its motion control in a Motion Task task. I did the Rockwell Motion Control course and we were told to put all our motion control logic in the Motion Task. So I assumed this was a kind of set feature. I see now that I was wrong in this, it's just another task. In some of the samples I look at I see the Motion Task is periodic, in others it's event driven off the Motion Group Execution (that would seem to be overkill?). Splitting the system over a number of tasks brings its own problems of synchronisation between tasks - if you use controller tags to synchronise between them you have to be very careful. My background is C++ programming which has taught me to be very careful when sharing data between threads. Mike There are some advantages in putting stuff in an event task triggered off the motion update:- 1.) As soon as variables have been updated, your 'motion' code runs immediately afterwards - it like having old fashion PLC code run straight after an IO refresh.2) If you don't buffer things like command position, actual position in your continuous task, they can change part the way through your scan and have the potential to screw things up. You should be able to address these attributes directly in a motion event driven task without worrying about them changing part the way through your code execution.3) Things like a cam output become a simple ladder LIM instruction (its truly circular and works on rotary axis). If this is in the motion task, its pretty much going to be as good as the baggage heavy instruction that AB supply (if need be work out your own 'between scan trigger times' if you want to use the CST programmed output to get faster responses.4) if you want fast code that is testing positions, and other motion related stuff, then their values aren't going to change at PLC level between coarse updates. No doubt there are other advantages and disadvantages. It all comes down to user preference in the end with what you are comfortable with and what you can get to work n"}
{"text": "### Human: Update Cam profile when running I need to update a CAM profile for a motor, without stopping it or disabling the MAPC instruction. The need is to change the ratio between the master and slave motors. Thank you for your help. ### Assistant: It seems not possible... take a look to Aid 43326 - fuzzy logic Sounds like you're using a cam as a way to do gearing? If so, one option is to use the gearing instruction instead of a cam and then change the gear ratio dynamically by just re-issuing the MAG instruction with your new ratio. Whether or not that works for your situation, you can change a cam without stopping by calculating a new cam and then executing the new cam as pending. The new cam will blend right into the old cam without missing a beat. yes I am replacing the gearing with Cam, it has a better performance for my application. I need to change the profile many times in a run, shoul I use two pending Cams?Thank you I have a machine that will toggle between cams on the fly and has some of the recalc cam instructions... I'm not sitting in front of the code right now, I can't give details. It does seem to work some what satisfactory. Sorry it's been a while. You can only pend one cam in at a time so just keep recalculating and pending the same cam in over and over. This is pretty commonly done and it can be done very fast, too. A lot of applications that I work on recalculate and pend in a new cam every cycle. I don't think a pending cam works unless a cam is already active so you'll need to start off with an MAPC instruction with execution mode of once and then start pending a cam over and over every cycle. Note that you can also run a cam as continuous and then just pend a cam in and when the cam table finishes on the continuous cam, the pended cam will blend in (you'd normally think a continuous cam would never end and so the pended cam would never start) - you can use that method if you really don't need to change the cam very often. Note that you can only have one cam pending at a time. If one cam is pended and you pend another one, you'll basically cancel the first pended cam. One method for knowing when the active cam has finished and the pended cam has become the active cam (therefore it's time to pend the next cam) is to monitor the axis.PositionCamPendingStatus bit. Once it turns off then you can safely pend the next cam in. Most people have correctly given the descriptions of pending cams and what they do. In addition, make sure you issue your pending cam instruction AT LEAST 3 coarse servo updates before the current cam finishes, otherwise it may not get loaded in the cam interprelator in time. Having to wait for a current cam to finish before you can change it (via a pending cam) isn't that good and maybe with the new L7x series that is coming soon, you may actually be able to change a cam on the fly in mid flight? lets hope!This would require a totally new servo network, significantly faster PLCs (which I know both are coming) but not so sure about changing cams in mid flight. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Fault error code 8H Hello Everybody, I just want to know what is the possible cause for this fault error code 8H Fatal internal Software error? We encounter this problem for our 2 projects. On the First one we have 12 units of Micrologix 1100 PLCthe other we have 6 units of the Micrologix 1100 PLC. On the first project 6 out of 12 have these problem. The other project almost all the PLC have this problem. To reset this fault is you just need to turn the power off the power and go to program mode then go to run mode. and it will run again. Do you think interference also cause this problem? Please someone help me. Regards, DmB ### Assistant: This error may be caused by noise (electrical disturbances) or improper installation Technote 16301 goes in deep on that; this is a Tech Connect contract users reserved doc, if you have not a valid contract, please send me a Private Message in the Forum with your mail and I will send you the document. Also you may find some useful guidelines to proper grounding and using surge suppressors in your controller’s User Manual. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: compactloggix backup system on devicenet I have two compactlogix plc which works on backup system(redundancy) on devicenet.the backup logix also works but i want to transfer all tag data value from primary to secondary.Is it possible if yes how to implement it. rahul ### Assistant: You have to realize this in the user program, either on Ethernet/IP or ControlNet, (it depends by the cpu you have), and you may use Produced/Consumed tags or Message instructions.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic This will work but i have a compactlogix plc which has 2 rs232 port it dont have ehternet port.otherthing is that all the tag i have are base type so how to convert it what will be the ladder logic for data syncronisation. thanks Over serial port of your controllers, you may only use MSG instructions... what you may realize here is to connect the serial port of every controller to a 1761-NET-ENI, so that you may utilize Ethernet to connect together the two cpus. After that, I may suggest to consolidate the data you need to transfer inside an array, so that you will need not too much messages to transfer all. Aid 28791 contains an example of message between CompactLogix controllers... also you may find useful infos in Logix Messages Programming Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic LINK AID 28791 IS NOT OPRENING ..... Any other link on examples on msg between compactlogix thx The problem is that this is a Tech Connect Contract User marked document...you need to have a valid Tech Connect contract to access this... anyway, I've sent it to you using a Private Message here in the Forum. - fuzzy logic Just to give complete information, there is also the possibility to connect the two L31 cpus directly to the serial port (using a 1756-CP3 cable) or using a DH-485 network by 1761-NET-AIC... I've suggested Ethernet as in that manner you have a possibility to connect also your PC to program... or an operator panel, simply using an Ethernet switch... It is just an idea... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic IN THE BACKUP LOGIC FOR REDUNDACY IN THE HEART BIT VALUE IF I PUT ZERO WHAT WILL BE THE EFFECT AND I GO ON INCRESING THE VALUE IN THE MULTIPLE OF 8 WHAT WILL BE EFFECT CAN YOU EXPALIN ME.... BYE THE WAY THANKS FOR ALL THESE HELP AND FOR PRIVATE MESSAGE FOR HELPING TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM........THANKS THANKS Bless, if you put zero in the heartbeat, you'll disable the Backup... You may find useful infos and example ladder to manage this in Aid 50690, that is *free* for everyone...:smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic NOW MY MIND AGAIN COME BACK TO DATA SYNCRONISATION .USER SUGGESTION IS ALSO VALID FOR THIS ONE. BUT CAN TAG VALUE MOVE TO ONE WHOLE ARRAY IF IT IS POSSIBLE THEN HOW? If your question is how to move from a tag to an array, attached is an example... Otherwise, if question is different, please explain what you need to obtain.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I AM WORKING WITH ONLY DIGITAL TAGS AND SOME TIMER ARE THERE NOW ALL THESE TAG I WANT TO SEND TO SECONDARY PLC USING DF1. HOW TO IMPLEMENT ALL THESE THINGS. RAHUL Rahul, suggestion is the same as before...first move the data you need to an array or multiple arrays, then send them using message. Bit should be *moved* to DINT array elements as the accumulated values of the timer should be moved to DINT array elements, in order to consolidate the data to be transferred. See attachment... - fuzzy logic I HAVE FACTORY TALK VIEW STUDIO SE LOCAL CPR9 . In that i created trends now if i add two pens in that y axis gets the value which one is max and scale according to it.i wan to yaxis whixch shows scale as per max and min value eneter in tag. so is it possible. rahul Rahul, it was better to start a new thread for this.... :smileywink: Anyway, you may specify to use the setting PRESET in Y axis (instead of the default Automatic), to define the trend will use the Min / Max values entere in the Pens Tab for your tag...Or use Custom to define manually two values to use for it.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: factoryntaklk se hii already done that striks but it will not work if add two pens.can you please check that one. another one i carete a passwird for trnds screen aftre doing that one tag datamodel which i created after word it doesnot giving me the historial vlaue in trends. so any problem with passwrod setting. rahul ### Assistant: Rahul, you may define how your Y axis has to work... use the Scale Option, or use Isolated graphing... refer to online HELP in the trend to have them explained... edit:Also you may use NEXT PEN button to switch between pens at runtime... You're talking about View SE.... :smileytongue: (just seen) Open the Library Object named Trend...there are many buttons that uses VBA code to change the settings of the Trend... (also to select which pen to show...) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic can you please tell me the another question i had asked ?about histrocal value.......and thanks for all these information. I've reproduced your situation: a trend in a protected display, containing a pen added from Datalog...I can't see particular issues... :smileysurprised:When I login an authorized user, trend shows data from log file and also actual values... Are you sure you've started your Datalog model issuing a DatalogOn command ?What do you see in your trend ? Just realtime data? fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Dynamically change the module object name in an SSV or GSV instruction? I have two CompactLogix conrollers that I want to use in a fault tolerant arrangement. Each controller is connected to the same EtherNet/IP network at different IP addresses along with a substantial number of ddrives and other I/O modules. I am able to inhibit or enable the connection to various modules via ladder logic. However with a large number of modules this takes a lot of programming. Is there a way to dynamically change the the object name? I want to use an array of module names and sequence through the names using only one SSV instruction. Anyone got any ideas? I have tried everytihing that I can think of without any success. ### Assistant: Hi Drizzt, I think you are wanting to index through the Instance Name field, not Object (Class) Name. Either way, however, this cannot be done. I have not found any documentation relating to the structure or array containing the name object or instance name when using the CIP Generic message type. However, there are examples of using the GSV and SSV blocks to retrieve and set MESSAGE instructions or change the destination when doing a CIP Data Table Read/Write. Why is the same or similar method not available for CIP Generic message types? Drizzt, I hope to have correctly understood your request... Do you want to change the Class Instance Attribute of your CIP Generic Message, so that you will use only one MSG instruction and dinamically set these parameters ? If this is the question, take a look to this post of mine: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Logix&message.id=535#M535 edit: renewed link Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I am afraid that I was not clear previously. We have two controllers to provide redundancy on a molten glass line and we are switching controllers (masters) on an EtherNet/IP network on the fly. There are times when the switch causes a network fault on some of the networked devices. This requires a device fault reset sent explicitly through Class 0x29, Instance 1 and Attribute 0x0C. Due to the large number of devices that need to be reset and the resets coordinated with other controller program modules sending explicit messages, the programming involved (queue management and coordination of program modules) is difficult and very time consuming. I am trying to limit the amount of programming involved by using one MESSAGE instruction and changing the parameters of the message as needed through an array of structures that mimic the contents of the message. I can get this to work if the message type is either a CIP Data Table Read or Write to other controllers on the network. However, I cannot seem to get it to work if the message type is CIP Generic. I think that I am close but was hoping that someone else has solved this problem. This is taking a large amount of time and head banging in frustration. Thanks to all who have replied or will reply. I hope you have already heard this, but it's important so I am going to post it here. No current Rockwell Automation platform supports redundancy, hot-backup, or controller fault tolerance with an EtherNet/IP network for I/O. Your system is using a non-redundant controller platform (CompactLogix) and a non-redundant network protocol (EtherNet/IP) to attempt to build a fault tolerant system. While I like a good challenge, it would be negligent of me to attempt to help you do this. The only system architecture that I would consider for a glass plant application is ControlLogix Redundancy with ControlNet for I/O connections. While CompactLogix does have a Warm Standby feature with the 1769-SDN and DeviceNet, this is not a true redundancy system and I would not recommend it for any system for which the shutdown consequences are economically substantial. Ken,Thank you, but I am aware of the situation concerning A-B and fault tolerance. That it is only supported on some ControlLogix platforms utilizing ControlNet and the SRM module (not sure of the acronym). And personally I would not try this. However, this was to be an in-house project and my client had already purchased all of the A-B equipment and associated devices almost a year ago when the project was planned from his local A-B distributor. Only to be told later that it was not possible for him to use the equipment in this way. He was told that there was no way to provide the limited fault tolerance that he wanted and he asked me for help. Just to be clear, I am not placing blame on anyone. I have frequently run into this; where either the customer did not know how the system was going to work and/or could not convey their thoughts correctly when purchasing the equipment. The system is currently working (it is in pre-startup) the way that it is suppose to work. But I don't like it! It is a maintenance nightmare. And because of having to manage the transfer queue and the several systems involved, it is very difficult to understand. I am trying to clean it up and make it easier to understand by not having to hard code every device that gets an explicit message. Just not ready to give up yet. Drizzt, I'm agree with Ken, and I've seen you're aware of what Ken has written... :smileyindifferent: After that, I can't understand well where is your problem with CIP generic message... also for this message you can change dinamically the Class, Instance, Attribute and also the path using a String data... (also there is n useful example of dinamically change path in Aid 50496 )So, where do you find troubles ? I apologize I didn't understand... :smileytongue: fuzzy logic I kind of got off track from the first message in this thread. The original question was about dynamically changing the InstanceName in an SSV ot GSV instruction. The message issue had been fixed by changing the array offset and length of the path string. I appreciate (and agree) that this is not the way to setup a redundant system and realize that A-B does not support the way we are using their equipment. But I also do not know of any way out of the situation. Thanks again to all who have replied. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Loading program to memory card from pv600 I am puzzled trying to save program to memory card 2711-nm13 from pv600 touch screen 2711-b6c8. I am getting error 305 “File WRITE access error”. There is no problem with saving the same program from pv600 keypad panel 2711-k6c8. Please advise. ### Assistant: Unfortunately I've not found interesting notes about it... just the manual report the need to contact Tech Support... :smileysurprised: may be they have more precise info about this error. - fuzzy logic Check with TechSupport on the series/rev of your PV600. My guess is that your model can't support the old NM1x memory cards. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Print to file or pdf on a PV+? Is it possible to print a display to a pdf file on a running Panelview Plus? We are looking to record intermittent snapshots of data on displays without using data logging. Is this possible? ### Assistant: Unfortunately this is not possible... printing to file is not supported on PV+. :smileysad: To use an hardware printer to print your display, see Aid 42687 ... and Aid 29143 for tested hardware devices. - fuzzy logic Well, the PV+ *can* print to a network printer. And if you created a PDF printer on a computer and shared it, then the PV+ could print to that, I suppose. I can't guarantee the results would be usuable, but it is in the realm of the theoretically possible. JHutch As a side note on what proposed by JHutch, there are a couple of technotes that explain how to configure a network printer... Aid 34133 and Aid 27626 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarm Summary in RSViewSE We are currently running RSViewSE 4.0 CPR7, w/ the 02Sep09 Patches on Servers with Win2k3 Svr R2 SP2. In the Alarm Summary page, whenever Ack All is clicked, with no alarms present, the full client app. closes. We have made a temp. work-around by keeping a dummy alarm active but invisible in the alarm screen. This kinda eliminates the problem. Is there any fix for this from Rockwell? ### Assistant: Unfortunately this a known issue using CPR7 and Win 2003 server, and it is an expected behavior... :smileysad: Aid 40787 - Aid 33716 - fuzzy logic Another solution, is to remove the AckAll or SilenceAll and to create a Button that executes the command outside of Alarm Summary Graphic. This will not cause the issue. n"}
{"text": "### Human: IP Routing I am adding a bunch of IP devices to a production line and I think it would be a good idea to have them use a different network (192.168.13.X) than our company network (192.168.1.X). However, I want to be able to access the productioin line network from the office network. Although this is a networking question I post this here because someone in this group must have done this before. Can I use an XP box to route between the two networks? Since these are two private networks will a router even route the packets? Am I a fool for even tring this? Thanks, Chris ### Assistant: You can do it in several ways, here is a couple of examples: 1: Yes, a router will forward the packets, but you will have to set up gateways at the PLC's etc.The problem now is that you will have to define port forwarding, and if 2 different devices are using same port, you are in trouble (not a good solution)If you want to use a router, you should use a router with VPN, the you would get a local IP address when logging on. 2: It is possible to connect the 2 networks. Do not connect the two networks directly, as you would get a lot of multicast traffic on the office network, you should use a managed switch.Even when the 2 networks are not on the same segment you can connect, using 2 ip addresses on your programming PC. Ex. giving your network card 192.168.1.99 AND 192.168.13.99 this requires no additional setup in the IP devices. 3: You could set up a PC with 2 network cards (one for each network), and connect via remote desktop, VNC or similar program. this also requires no additional setup, but the programming tools etc. should be present on the extra PC. You don't provide details about the devices on your control network but a possible solution would be to add a Gateway rack consisting of a 1756 power supply, a 1756 chassis, and (2) 1756 Ethernet Bridge modules (1756-ENBT, -EN2T, or -EWEB). One of the bridge modules could reside on the control network and the other on the corp LAN. From a PC on the corp LAN with RSLinx you could then browse through the first ENxT to the backplane to get to the second ENxT module then out to the control network. Just a thought... I had the same needs. I was going to put a second card on a 1768 compactlogix until I foud out nobody makes a Ethernet/IP card for the 1768 just a modbus TCP/IP card. I ended up getting a Phoenix brand managed switch and it looks to be working well. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Print from panelview using a Epson TM U220 (usb or serial) I try to make print characters from panelview but this printer it's not supported onHMI configuration, but if you know how can a do this or have information about this,please help me on this proyect. ### Assistant: Assuming you're talking about Panelview Plus here...:smileysurprised: USB printer should support Printer Control Language (PCL3) to work, see Aid 57669; also see Aid 29143 for a list of compatible hardware devices.Serial printing could be accomplished in a PV+ or VV CE terminal by using the Kepware UConn driver (Aid 28334) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: program in factory talk view studio I have a program in factorytalk viewstudio(5.00.00).I want to create notesfor the all alarm messages dispakyed in an alrm list object.In the alarmlist,there are many alarm messages,likes acknowleage,active,unacknowleage,unactive.it means the alarm history.I hope that it will dispaly a note when iselect an alarm message.the note explains how the alarm happen,how to solveit.like this.In the alarm list,maybe there are many alarms actived at thesame time.how can i do it? ### Assistant: Unfortunately there is no way to realize what you need in View ME.... the Alarm List has not this possibility....:smileysad: You may try to work with Local Messages or Information Messages, but no way to link them to the Alarm List selected alarm.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1762-OF4 Ramp I'm controlling a process in which one part is controlling the speed of a pump. Under normal running conditions, the pump follows the line speed of the machine. The Accel/Decel rate is set by the line speed of the machine.There are times when the operator must jog or run the pump manually. Under this condition the speed command to the pump drive is 100%.Using a micrlogix 1400 and a 1762-OF4 analog output module, how do I rampthe output of the Analog module. Thank-you ### Assistant: Here is a screen shot from a .pdf file I had stuck back. Can't remember where or when I used it but a friend sent it to me some time ago. I think he got it off the website www.mrplc.com. One other thing...you could use a SCP instruction and use the .ACC of a timer for the input and scale it to the Min and Max parameters. This might be easier than my previous post of the .pdf file. Thanks for the help. Using the timer and SCP instruction did the trick. I guess I wasmaking this more difficult than it really was. Thanks again n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix to dataliner I am trying to communicate from a micrologix 1200 to a Dataliner 2706-D11J2, using the RS232. I have setup the dataliner to display the messages that I want it to display and have even configured it to display the correct messages depending on the digital inputs to the dataliner, but when I set it to use the 232 port I can't get it to work. Can anyone help me? ### Assistant: May you please post the Micrologix 1200 serial port setting you're using ?And also the cable you use to connect the two devices together.... Please chech to have the dip switch in right position to use the serial trigger... see the screenshot...During the DL5 powerup, you may verify the serial port speed (and the serial port usage programmed), then you have to set the Micrologix 1200 to the same speed and as ASCII protocol.Another important thing is the address of the Dataliner, that should be used in the ASCII trigger message.You may find some examples and useful infos in the User Manual... - fuzzy logic I ahe added a screenshot of the port configuration in the micrologix. the cable we are using is the 2711-CBL-PM05 SERC Also the screenshot you have shown and in the dataliner manual differs from the unit we have I have added a picture of the back of the unit. When the unit powers up the baud rate is shown but no node address is shown. Thanks in advance Unfortunately, your unit is an old one and doesn't support serial triggering...:smileysad: that port is only for programming... I've found in my office an old User Manual for DL5 (dated 1992) and this reports only parallel triggering, serial doesn't have this possibility...and the back of the unit is exactly the same as your Dataliner... I'm afraid for that...:smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix 1100 Always Faulty Hi There. We have a MicroLogix 1100 that is always Faulty and need to download the program to resolved it. Now. this is the third time, it has a fault again and we cannot communicate with the PLC to download the program.thas ogram thats why we cannot clear the fault any more. The fault says Hardware Fault based on the manual manual. Because The Fault indicator is not blinking. How to solve thisproblem? Can you please help me. ### Assistant: Good Morning; looks like its getting corrupt.. are you using snubbers on outputs to inductive loads?.. front section of manual has suggested snubbers.install across the load not at the plc. Set 1100 to DCOM to get back online http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=38697 DMB, You don't mention any fault codes but Tech 411 may be on the right track here. You need to validate your installation. Please refer to Knowledge Base doc ID# 16301 & 35693 for additional information. http://www.rockwellautomation.com/knowledgebase/ dmb,I have been working in a lab rebuilding a machine using a ML1100 it also has faulted for no apparent reason. While investigating I found that the neutral wire at the terminal strip was not tight and suspect bad power noise caused the fault. Good LuckDan One guess - you have an IF4 analog card in the system.We have 99 out of 100 doing this.Take the connector that plugs into the previous card or base and squeeze ithard with a channel lock pliers. This elimnates all faulting for us. n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix 1100 fault 0289h Have a Micrologix 1100 controller showing a major fault 0289h. What is this fault condition? ### Assistant: Do you have any expansion modules attached to Micrologix 1100 ? Which one? I guess answer is yes, because this error should be an expansion i/o module error code. Check the IO status file in Function Files folder to get the extended error hex code, and post that information. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Do you have an IF4 analog card in the system. If so, take the connector on the endof the ribbon cable and squeeze it hard with a pliers. We do this with every analogcard. 90% or more of the new cards create this fault, squeezing totally eliminatesthis fault. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Electrolytic Capacitors shelf life I have a panel with several PF40s and PF70s ( 30 hp) that has been in storage for several years. I was told that I need to re-form the capacitors and was referrenced TN 18015. Does this this mean I should not have spare inventory for drives? It seems to be a very complex procedure and not suitable for small plants? What is wrong with this picture? ### Assistant: This issue comes new to me, and it is an interesting thread. In effect this happens due to the *nature* of the Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitors, and thus it applies also to other Drives (I mean non-Rockwell... :smileytongue: )Some other infos in Wikipedia.... also there is explained the re-forming process... Then, it means you can have your spare for sure, but you have to be aware of this issue and prepare your drives before proceed to use them...that means that after several years you have not a quick direct replacement part in case of failure of original system... :smileysad: About the reforming procedure: yes, it seems quite complex... maybe the last explained could be the most suitable for simple reforming. The other option is to apply the input line voltage to the Drive, the current limited resistor should still be used in series with the input power. Then allow the drive to power-up, thus applying bus voltage across the capacitors and re-forming them. Allow the drive to sit in this state for at least an hour prior to operating the drive. - fuzzy logic One of the things that I did was that I created a preventative maint. work order in our CMMS for once, every six months, to remind to drag my spare drives out of storage and power them up in my shop. I would leave power on them, one or two at a time, for a couple of hours each. If you don't have a large quantity of spares, then this may be practicle. This proved to help. Another thing that I have found, is that the caps usually have a longer storage life than what the specs. say. I would rather have a good spare drive that I have to drag out and power up once every six months than sit around waiting on having a new one overnighted. Hope this helps!George36 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Modbus connectivity with RSView 32 Scada ( KEP Server) I am using RSView32 Scada. I need information about modbus devices('n'No's)connectivity.How to configure a KEP server utility and incorporate with scada tag database.Please advice.... ### Assistant: Aid 23389 contains the needed steps to configure the required communication; also the following list of technotes could help on that:Aid 35751 - Aid 23382 - Aid 32524 Third party drivers help documents installed with Kepserver enterprise should be used to configure the Modbus driver (Aid 52371) Take also a look to Modbus Application manual; this is done for PV Plus, but could contain useful infos... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FLEX ANALOG O/P CARD ON DNET I HAVE COMPACT LOGIX L35E AND FLEX ANALOG O/P OE12 CARD ON DNET, ACTUALLY WE GIVE THE SOME VALUE ON O/P(4-20 MA) , AND IT IS SHOWINGIN RSNET WORX FOR DNET, BUT PHYSICALLY IT IS NOT SHOWINGIN TERMINAL,I THINK SOME SETTING MIGHT BE MISSING IN DNET, PLZ HELP ### Assistant: I think some other infos are needed to try to understand what's happen... 1. Led status of 1794-OE122. Led status of 1769-SDN3. Display indication over 1769-SDN Maybe also other infos could be useful, but... first start with the above... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Continuous change of gearratio on 1 servo-axis Hello, We have an application which requires a continuous change of gearration of 1 slave axis to a master axis (f.ex. 1 change of gearratio per 500 ms).Currently we execute this by having 1 MAG-instruction which we call every 500ms with an updated gearratio. The clutch-setting in theMAG-instruction is active. We have RSlogix5000 V16 .For about 90% of the startups this setup works fine. But 10% of the cases it goes wrong and we see that the updated gearratio is not becoming active. What do we do wrong. Is there a better way for updating the gearratio continuously from 1 slave axis to the master axis? FV. ### Assistant: You might try creating an event task to perform the MAG instruction and have it run after the ratio variable has been updated. Also, in this event task, monitor the variable to make sure it is a different value then the previous one. This is only a test to make sure it has a new value. Hello, We are trying an experiment with 2 MAG instructions from which MAG1 takes over from MAG2 and vice versa.It does not seem logical to me as we had done befor to use 1 MAG instruction which continuously takes over from itself. Seems to be better now but need more testing. Regards,FV. Another Option is to use a CAM with the MATC command you can then choose the Ramp rates from one ratio to the next If you are just changing the gearing in a cycle then the program all the ratios in the CAM and call it once To your problemremember the MAG command is a oneshot command I retrigger the command whenever the variables from the last call have changed I only used one MAG V16Has the Ramp from the Previous MAG completed? If you are using ladder, your rung has to have a scan where it is false before the MAG can execute again. If you use Structured text, you can execute a MAG every scan! Now, the MAG instruction changed a little from the 1394 days with regards to clutch enabling. In the 1394, the clutch would be active ALL the time limiting the Accel / Decels to the required amount. This was great for gearing an axis on the fly with velocity discontinuities, but dreadful thereafter as you could lose position after the initial 'engagement' with the clutch being active that prevented true following. AB changed this with Control Logix (intentionally or not I don't know), such that the clutch is only active on the initial execution of the MAG (until the slave is truly following the master) and not active after that. Now if a MAG is being continuously executed, than the clutch limiting is also continuously active too. Hello, The Cam-function we did not prefer since it require some more time to execute 1 cam into another (cam into pending-cam can be done when the current cam is finishing). So also the speed change is not immediate. We desire immediate speed change.Also the blending from 1 cam into another is hard to do (cam 1 with velocity X at CAM-end needs to go into cam2 starting with velocity Y). The MAG instruction was also scanned for false after execution. I also took notice of the clutch that is automaticly disabled once the slave axis has reached the right gearspeed. Alltough we followed all rules, it seems that reusing the same gearing MAG-instruction for the continuous gearchange was not 100% working fine. It just did not update the gearing anymore . We tried now with using 2 MAG-instructions and swap from MAG1 to MAG2 and vice versa. Each MAG-instruction has a different gearratio. Now we do not have any issues anymore.So this looks like the permanent solution which is tested and verified. Regards,Frank V. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 with Customized Servo Motor I might be pressing a hot button here, but is it possible to configure a user defined servo motor to use in RSLogix 5000? Thanks. ### Assistant: lendyck, a user cannot add his own a custom motor inside RS5000... you need to request your local RA representative to have the custom profile created for you, giving them all the datas about the motors. Anyway this procedure should be approved from RA before they start with analysis and profile definition... so I think it isn't quick to get... May also try to ask if there is already a profile created for your motor... take a look to the following thread: LINK Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 700S JOG 1, JOG 2 I have a 700S which has the add on encoder board. The drive is setup to follow the auxiliary encoder encoder with the application of a run input (2 wire). My customer asked me to install a FWD/REV Jog cct. on this application. I setup JOG 1 and JOG 2 on digital inputs 1 and 2, JOG 1 setpoint 10 RPM, JOG 2 setpoint -10 RPM. JOG 1 works fine, JOG 2 almost works, the HIM shows the drive is running I can hear the power module firing, but the motor will not move and the RPM gauge on the HIM shows 0. What have I forgotten to do?? ### Assistant: First of all I have to say I'm not an expert of this drive... just I'm trying to give some help...:smileytongue: Check Par. 30 (Min. Spd. Ref. Lim.), default is 0; you need to have this set to a negative value if you want use JOG 2 as indicated in your post.Also, Par 153, bit 0 should be 1 (it is by default) to allow bipolar speed reference... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy, I set Par. 39 to -20, and Bit 0 of Par. 153 is 1. I even tried setting up digital input 3 as a reverse input and brought it on with my JOG 2 command. No joy. Thanks for the reply though. Mike, what about parameter 30 ? Did you try to set it to -20 for example, and then use JOG1 and JOG 2 digital input as you've indicated in your first post ? I setup JOG 1 and JOG 2 on digital inputs 1 and 2, JOG 1 setpoint 10 RPM, JOG 2 setpoint -10 RPM - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy, I honestly don't remember what I set on the Min Spd Par. I'll have to get back to the jobsite and check. Thanks for the Tip. Regards, Mike I think this is very important, because if you leave it to the default value (0 RPM) you will not be able to get to negative speed... :smileysurprised: Let me know.... - fuzzy logic You are quite correct. I put -8.00 into PAR 30 and away it went, thank you for your input.:smileyhappy: Nice, I'm happy that works ! :smileyhappy: Maybe you want to move the green solution mark over one of my posts where I've indicated to set a negative value inside parameter 30 ? edit: In order to change the Solution mark position, you have first to Uncheck the previous marked post, using the option menu on the right side of that post (see screenshot)...then you may mark the post you want... Thanks for your feedback and cooperation ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MSG in structured text file EN Bit stays true unless… When I program a MSG instruction even with one-shot logic the EN bit stay true after the DN bit is set. The Help file states that the EN bit will go false after the DN bit is set and the rung is false. My logic is no longer executing the MSG instruction like a false rung. The MSG successfully executes the instruction only on the first time. The Only way I have been able to get the EN bit to go false is to program a dummy rung in a Ladder file with a [AFI] instruction before a MSG instruction using the same Message Tags. ### Assistant: You don't need to use a one shot logic in front of a MSG instruction, this instruction is already in one shot mode ( when you can see at the right of an instruction EN, DN, it means one shot ).So you have to trigger this instruction to use many time ( like the DN of a timer .... ). The EN is not linked with the DN, it is just the image of the front of the MSG instruction. It means that if the conditions in front of the MSG box are ok you will have the EN =1. You will often find just below the MSG instruction :XIC MSG.DN or XIC MSG.ER then OTU MSG.ENYou can have your MSG instruction working all the time but take care about the network traffic ( sending all the time MSG is the best way to overload traffic ) Capple, following is the Structured Text I usually use to obtain continuous message execution... if not MSGST.en then msg (MSGST); elsif MSGST.dn then MSGST.en :=0 ; end_if; Obviously, MSGST is the Control Word... simply I check when .en and .dn are on, I force the .en to off so that the Message can restart... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Capple and all, One subtle thing to note, especially if you use add-on instructions. Not scanning a MSG(msgtag) in ST (like skipping it with if / else / etc.) is NOT the same thing as scanning it false. It is more like jumping over the instruction in LD with a JMP/LBL. There's no way in ST to scan an instruction false. With add-on instructions, there's an EnableIn parameter and an EnableInFalse routine. In Function Block, you can make an AOI scan the EnableInFalse logic by connecting something to EnableIn that is equal to 0. In Ladder Diagram, you make the AOI scan the EnableInFalse logic by scanning the instruction with the Rung-In condition be false (false rung). But in ST, there's no way to scan an AOI and get it to execute EnableInFalse. Man, I've learned a lot about how the built-in instructions work by reading the AOI manual!!! Important to remember this with file instructions, etc., anything that has a .EN bit. You have to turn off .EN and then scan the instruction -- it will act like a rung with a false-to-true transition. If you don't turn off .EN, the instruction only fires once -- then never sees another transition. Hope this helped! Dale, W8ABZ Dale, In those situations I'll manually unlatch the .EN bit immediately after executing the instruction and follow that with executing the same instruction who's .EN bit I unlatched so it sees that the .EN bit is off (scanning the twice in the same logical scan. This usually works well with file instructions.However, scanning an instruction twice in the same logical scan with instructions that utilize a 'Timing Mode' algorithm can be messy sometimes. Hey, Larry! The MSG is quite different from File instructions, so you do have to be careful and test it. A file instruction uses the .EN bit as a record of rung-in condition state, so you can clear it to force the instruction to see a false-to-true transition and execute. The problem with the MSG is the queue that's behind the scenes. (This is why you can make an array of CONTROL structures and execute them indirectly in ladder, but MESSAGE tags MUST be base tags.) In the early revs of RSLogix 5000, you could clear the .EN / .ST / .DN / .ER bits when you weren't supposed to and get the queue out of sync, then overflow it. It would start to have multiple initiations of the same MSG in the queue at the same time. That's why they made the change in a later rev. to prevent it. (Check out the release notes.) So test what you're doing with LOTS of messages on a slow path to make sure you don't trash the MSG queue. Some of the numbers related to the MSG queue are available via the RSLogix 5000 Task Montior Tool, which you may have installed (optionally) with RSLogix 5000. Look in the Start Menu / Programs / Rockwell Software / RSLogix 5000 Tools folder for it. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Allow Unicast Consumer Connections There is a option to set Allow Unicast Consumer Connections for produced tag. It is used to enable multiple unicast consumers to consume from this produced tag. This results in additional producer resources being allocated for each potential consumer. One should only set this option when using unicast connections.The question is:1. What is unicast connections as compared with multicast connections?2. Where to set a connection to be unicast or multicast?3. What additional producer resources will be allocated for each potential consumer? ### Assistant: 1. Basically:Unicast is used for point-to-point communications (programming, HMI, messages)Multicast allows multiple consumers (Ethernet/IP I/O) A more detailed explanation in Aid 50977. 2. Revision 16 enables you to use RSLogix 5000 software to Produce and Consume tag connections as Unicast. Setting the tags to Unicast decreases the network bandwidth and simplifies Ethernet switch configuration.In the I/O editor you must set the consume tag to use unicast connection over ethernet/ip. In the I/O editor you must set the produce tag configuration allow unicast consume connection. If you have only a single tag consumer, you can use unicast.If you have 2 or more consumers, multicast would be the best choice because it is more efficient. 3. The resources allocated are also in terms of available connections, as if a produce tag is consumed by ONLY Ethernet uni-cast consumers, the controller will use only the number of connections equal to the active consumers(If any of the consumers are not unicast, then the controller will use ( 1+ number of active consumers) connections)More details in Aid 56682 If you want, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, and I will send you back some infos... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Trank, Maybe this will help. I think I have this right. I'm sure Fuzzy will let me know if I don't! If I have a set of three controllers (A, B and C) and other equipment on an Ethernet and EtherNet/IP network. Using an Unmanaged switch, if I create a Produced tag in A that is consumed by B, here is what the network does: The yellow arrows are the intended path, but an Unmanaged switch will broadcast a Multicast packet to all nodes on the network. You can avoid this by using a Managed switch that supports IGMP snooping. It figures out who is expecting the produced tag and only forwards it to those nodes. The red arrow packets go away and the nodes not expecting this traffic won't have to deal with it. (It takes work to figure out they don't need the data.) You can also avoid this by using Unicast packets. The switch won't broadcast these. The Unicast packet only uses the yellow arrows above. (By the way, the difference between a Switch and a Hub is that the Hub is EXTREMELY dumb. It'll broadcast everything it hears on every port to every other port, giving you the problem you have with multicast on an unmanaged switch, only worse. NEVER use a hub!) If you have two consumers (B and C) for the produced tag (from A) and use a switch with IGMP snooping, this happens: Nice and efficient: one transmission, and both the intended receivers (B and C) hear the data. Nobody else does because you used a Managed Switch. (The same thing happens with I/O connections when you have Listen Only connections. The listeners hear the multicast packets from the I/O cards. ALWAYS use a Managed Switch with IGMP snooping when doing I/O over EtherNet/IP -- even if you don't have listen-only connections. The basic control I/O connections also use multicast!) Now, if you use Unicast packets for produced/consumed tags and you want to go to multiple consumers (B and C): Now each consumer needs his own unicast origination from the producer. This is where the wasting of producer connections and resources comes into play. The producer (A) has to send the data twice. So: For Produced/Consumed Tags over EtherNet/IP, use Unicast Packets for one-to-one, or use a Managed Switch. For one-to-many, use Multicast Packets and ALWAYS use a Managed Switch. For I/O over EtherNet/IP, ALWAYS use a Managed Switch. The only exception I can think of for this is if you have only two nodes on the network: the controller chassis and the I/O chassis. Then there are no other nodes that need to have this traffic excluded. Easiest to remember, no muss, no fuss: use a managed switch that supports IGMP snooping and full duplex and wire-speed switching. Can't go wrong with that. That's my understanding. I could be off in the details a bit, but I hope the pictures help! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLOGIX 5000 ANY HELP OR EXAMPLES ON ADD ON INSTRUCTION IN RSLOGIX 5000. ### Assistant: Here we go.... ADD-ON Instruction Programming Manual There are also useful videos in the Start Page Media on RS5000; you may also download these videos at this LINK Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic There is also an example application showing various AOIs included in the Vendor Sample apps on the V16 and V17 installs. If you installed them with RSLogix 5000, you can open RSLogix 5000, then select Help -- Vendor Sample Projects. Find the Rockwell Automation examples, then select Add_On_Instructions_Samples.ACD. Some of the V17 example instructions were updated quite a bit from V16 and are better, more robust, etc. Use them instead of the V16 examples if you can. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View ME How can I convert .mer file to editable application file. ### Assistant: The .mer file (Machine Edition Runtime) file can be uploaded from a PanelView Plus terminal using the Transfer Utility. It is a compiled version of the original project and is not editable in version 4.0 (or less). In order to make changes to the 4.0 project, you must have a backup file (.apa) from the developer.From RSView Studio, use the Application Manager to restore the .apa file to editable application. Version 5.0 of Machine Edition has the option to restore the runtime file. This option is set at creation of the v5.0 runtime file (.mer). The file is restored by uploading from the PanelView Plus and running Application Manager to restore to an editable application (unless the developer has protected the file) See Aid 44554. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 Project path size With RSLogix 5000 (professionnal network) v16 It seems that a too long communication project path doesn't allow to access to the target Back Plane :Set project path / Go Online impossible. Even if by another path Set project path / Go Online is possible. What about size limit for Project Path or other limitations ? ### Assistant: Hmmm..I don't remember such as limitation...are you sure you're selecting a processor when you browse through devices ? (apologize for the dumb question):smileysurprised:Also, I've seen this happen if you have RSLogix 5000 already open and the network you're trying to reach powered up later... in that case is enough to close RS5000 and reopen it.... Otherwise, may you please post the Who Active window for which you get the problem ? It could help... - fuzzy logic Here are new details. File Path :PORT-VM!RESEAU143.23.50.14Backplane2A143.23.54.69Backplane1A143.23.51.188Backplane2A10Backplane See tree in attachment Then I select 00, CompactLogix Processor RSLogix5000 : Professionnal / Network edition v16 (French) OS : WinXp Professionnal SP3 Ok, but where is the problem ? You reach the backplane of your CompactLogix, then you have to press the[+] sign beside it to reach the processor, otherwise you have the Set Project button grayed out (this works as expected)See the screenshot.... Anyway, be aware that your OS is NOT SUPPORTED in RSLogix 5000 v16, and this could give you sometroubles like the one you get... :smileysad: v17 is supported on Win XP sp3...take a look to Aid 42682 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The problem is precisely that the Set Project button remains grayed ! And that's the same with Go Online button. Other paths are totally ok. But we will try with v17 (that we have). Thanks. Ok, let me know the results... and remember the Kudos !.... :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic I was waiting for your note about Kudos... I will think of that after tests with v17 with the same path ! He He.... :smileytongue: ok I will wait for your feedback, but I'm confident...:smileywink: - fuzzy logic I thought a CIP connection path could only traverse 8 hops (a hop being from a network/backplane into a moudle or from a module out onto a network/backplane). Or am I thinking of an older revision of CIP connections? You might be able to BROWSE that far with RSWho, but you might not be able to CONNECT that deep to the controller.... The path looked to be about 10 hops or so.... Dale, W8ABZ One more thing to be aware is that RSLinx Classic v2.54 (last version) is NOT supported on Win XP Sp3 ! :smileysurprised: I suggest to test your connection on a PC with XP Sp2, to be sure to be in a valid and tested software configuration. Anyway, Dale's post raises a flag to me... now really I don't remember, but actually this could be a limitation... I will check for some infos on that. - fuzzy logic I think Dale is on the right way :smileywink:....I've made some tests and I got the same behavior as you when I try to go deeper and deeper through backplanes...Just I'm not sure the limit is the number of hop (but may be) as I can cross the same number of backplanes as you need, but I can't reach the next one backplane... :smileysurprised: It seems related to the Path Size in words (I remember it should be maximum 32 words) so you reach this limit quicker than me as your IP addresses use more words as per the fact they are like 143.23.50.14....instead of the addresses I use to test that are like 10.0.0.1.... your IP addresses eat up words of path more than mine ! :smileytongue: So, for example I can reach the following and Set Project Path is available:PORT10.0.0.1Backplane4A10.0.0.2Backplane4A10.0.0.3Backplane7A2Backplane0(The above Path cross the same number of backplanes as yours) I can reach the following but Set Project Path is grayed out:PORT10.0.0.1Backplane4A10.0.0.2Backplane4A10.0.0.3Backplane4A10.0.0.4Backplane7A2Backplane0 So I think your issue is not solvable due to the above... :smileysad: also remember the software compatibility with XP sp3... :smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks VM for the feedback and the Kudos ! :smileyvery-happy: Also thanks to Dale who open my eyes on the path limits ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Softlogix virtualisation Does anyone has some experience with having a softlogix 5 or 5800 running in a virtual machine ??We still have some soflogix 5 which preferably run on NT4 platform.Using a VM with NT4 seems ( from afar) an easy way to proceed and also guarantee quick reload of a working complete system in case of system corruption...but will it work ???( of course 1VM per PC) OM ### Assistant: Olivier, I have had some experiences with some customers that use Softlogix5800 over a Virtual machine with success... They use Win XP sp2 over an host Win Vista. They only uses the processor and the Ethernet cards for communication and HMI ar the moment and this works fine. Just please be aware that it is not supported yet by Rockwell - Aid 30209 ) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data update to output modules In Controllogic system, if digital output modules reside in the same chassis as the owner-controller, then controller's data will be sent from owner at the end of every program scan and the RPI. IOT will update the dedicated tag value to the output module immediately. Is there any other case that the controller's data will be sent to the output modules, e.g. at the end of each task scan? If there are many programs in each task for a project, then for the mentioned term every program scan, does it refer to whole program in a project or each program in each task? ### Assistant: Normally, the outputs are updated at the end of each Task; starting from version 12 you may select to not use this to reduce the task overhead ... Aid 43270 explains well this concept... Take a look also to the Task Programming Manual... Also, prior to Release 7.0 outputs were sent at the end of each program and could result in extended task execution time for a task that has several programs. Release 7.0 and after will have the outputs sent at the end of the task. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Aid 43270 described that, if there is only one task and this feature is enabled, outputs will not be updated. This feature should NOT be enabled if there is only 1 task. Also, if there are multiple tasks and this feature is enabled on ALL of them, remote outputs will never be updated. At least one task has to have this feature disabled to allow outputs to be updated… If it is true then what about RPI? cfhung, the behavior indicated in that technote is considered a defect by Rockwell... that means it should not happen, output should be updated when all tasks have been executed and the RPI should work normally as programmed...in the Aid is explained how information sent to I/O and adapters behave differently in some modules... Do you see the statement at the end of the technote ? Submitted for correction in ClearQuest Lgx00079048 This means the defect has been submitted in order to be solved in future releases... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Does the defect describe that the RPI will not work normally as programmed if the task automatic output processing was disabled? If not, then why remote outputs will never be updated if there are multiple tasks and this feature is enabled on ALL of them ? What version of RSLogix500 is that defect referring to? Just trying to go deeper in the argument... :smileysurprised: In the normal execution (I mean option NOT flagged) at the end of the task the Output buffer become updated with the new values for the ouputs; then, the next RPI will send these fresh data to the modules. Now, if you flag this option, it is expected that in any case you have to update the output buffer when all the tasks have been processed, so that the module will receive the fresh data the next RPI... Problem is that the output buffer seems to never become updated, so the RPI will work but old data are sent to the modules. Based on what I can see, the defect is not yet solved, so it is referred to the last version of the software also. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1790 LDX CAN YOU GIVE ME THE DETAILS OF EXPANSION CABLE FOR 1790 LDX MODULE CONNECTIVITY. RAHUL ### Assistant: If you need the Catalogue number for cable replacement, you may find it on this publication: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/pp/1790-pp002_-en-p.pdf - fuzzy logic ACUALLY I HAVE THAT EXPANSION CABLE BUT SIZE VERY LESS MY CUSTOMER WANTS UPTO 600MM SO CAN YOU GIVE ME THE DETAILS OF THAT SO I CAN ARRANGE THE CABLE FOR MY CUSTOMER. ACTUALLY IT SHIP WITH SMALL ONE. The maximum available expansion cable length is 15 cm (I think this cannot be longer due to EMC issues), so you may try to realize your own cable, but it is not tested and it is your responsability if something become faulty.... :smileywink: Anyway, if you want to try, take the small one you have and replicate the connections... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic ACTUALLY I WANT THE NO OF PINS IT HAS (CONNECTOR) SO THAT I CAN LOOK SILMILAR KIND OF CABLE. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1757-SRM secondary DISQ HI there, i need some support I have a redundant system chasis with 1756-CNBR1756-L61EMPTYEMPTY1756 -CNBR1757-SRM two chasis identical my project is developed in RsLogix 5000 v15.02 with redundancy enabled, but Secondary still DISQ, and give me an error when i try to sync manually. Maybe i need something extra, or something.... the firmware of the SRM and CNBR are the same in both modules, the status is fully compatible but still secondary DISQ. Please send me some help, i don't know what to do, and i need the redundancy enabled. Thanks ### Assistant: What is the text of the error you see when you attempt to synchronize manually ? Each release of redundancy firmware requires specific hardware and firmware. These are described in detail in the Release Notes. Publication 1756-RN628D for versions 15.56/57 firmware and and 1756-RN628E for version 15.60. These are downloaded from the firmware website. Firmware for every module in each chassis must match: Controllers must match controllers, ControlNet bridges must match ControlNet bridges, SRMs must match SRMs. If there are any mismatches, the redundancy system cannot operate. You should also have the Redundancy System User Manual, publication 1756-UM523. Lastly, please remember this is a User Forum, not a Support Forum or support mechanism. If you need direct assistance from Technical Support, use the Ask A Question feature on the Support website, or call (440) 646-5800. One more thing: the CNBR address needs to be set the SAME for corresponding CNBRs. For your example, if the Chassis A CNBR in slot 0 is set to node 05, the Chassis B CNBR in slot 0 is also set to node 05. (Whichever one is secondary will be demoted -- incremented -- to 06 automagically.) The CNBR in slot 0 does NOT have to be the same as the CNBR in slot 4. (In fact if they are on the same CNet, they MUST be different.) So in slot 4, you could have node 03 (for both, with the secondary acting as 04). Just make sure you have two node numbers reserved on the network for the pair of CNBRs. In the case above, the slot 0 Primary will be 05 and the secondary will be 06, so make sure nothing else is using 05 and 06. (Easy way to do this: always assign ODD node numbers to CNBRs in redundant chassis, and reserve the next higher EVEN numbers for the secondaries. The switches are always set to the lower ODD number.) Also, the CNBRs in the redundant chassis pair should avoid being node 01 (the network keeper). This should be a node NOT in the redundant chassis so you're not moving the keeper around on a switchover. All this is in the redundancy manual for your version (e.g., 15.60). Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ Does the SRM display DISQ or does it display something else? How about the LCD displays on the CNBs, what are they displaying? Will the SRMs SYNC if there are no other modules in the Red Chassis but the SRMs? What if you then add the L61s in both chassis, will the SRMs still SYNC, and so on? Have you interconnected the SRMs using the fiber cable? Are the L61s the same series? Are the CNBRs the same series (in pairs)? The ControlLogix Redundancy System User Manual is an excellent source of information. Here is a link to this publication -- http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1756-um523_-en-p.pdf Also be aware of MSG instructions that are/were firing during a switchover. There is a TechNote out on the matter. I guess the technote Larry3 has referenced is 33685... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy!! n"}
{"text": "### Human: FRN 4.46 PV 1000 Standard Hi, someone knows what is the firmware for a PV 1000 grayscale stanrdard & keybord DH485, FRN 4.46 Serie E (2711-K10G3)?.... when I use the Firmware File Transfer Utility show me an error because I use the firmware G10KDH4.fmw,... I found in the knowledge base that this G10KDH4.fmw is only for FRN 4.41, not for FRN 4.46; so, I can't find the fmw file firmware update for this FRN 4.46.... Does someone has the solution to this? Martin TejeraPanama, Panama ### Assistant: You have to ask to the Technical Support for your Region, they can send it to you. Anyway I will check if I have it, then I will let you know so that I can send it to your e-mail address if you want...:smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic A collegue of mine has the file you need... if you like I may send it to your e-mail address...just send me a Private Message here in the Forum with it... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic File just sent... let me know if you receive it correctly.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: add on instruction examaples on add on instruction rahul ### Assistant: Add-On Instructions are custom instructions that you design and create.With Add-On Instructions, you can create new instructions for sets of commonly-used logic, provide a common interface to this logic, and provide documentation for the instruction.Add-On Instructions are intended to be used to encapsulate commonly used functions or device control. Take a look to the ADD-ON Instruction Programming Manual There are also useful videos in the Start Page Media on RS5000; you may also download these videos at this LINK Also you may find some examples program on the V17 RSLogix 5000 CD, and they should be installed together with RS5000.To find the ACD file go to the Start Page, Quick Start then Open Sample Project and select for example Add_On_Instructions_Samples.acd Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic There are also previous question from you and related answers about this topic... a Moderator has moved them to the right Board in the Forum. You cannot see these other Boards because of the following: There are some boards that require you to have a support contract with Rockwell to see them. If you already have a TechConnect support contract, you can put your authorization number directly into your profile and the boards will become immediately available. See this POST in the Welcome section for more information. edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic IS IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE COMPUTE INSTRUCTION USING ADD ON INSTRUCTION What does it mean exactly ?You may create the istruction as you prefer... if you want you may use the compute instruction inside it, or you may do your math operations; then every time you use it you will pass the values to be used and get the results... - fuzzy logic add instruction in rslogix5000 have two souce and one destination but i ewant create three or more than sources and result in destination is it possible t.if yes then how? rahul Using CPT instruction let you realize all the ADDs you need... using it in an ADD-ON instruction let you pass in your parameters to add and get as output value the result of your CPT... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SCALE SCALE INSTRUCTION:------ IF MY SCALE RANGE IS -100 TO +100 THEN USING SCALE INSTRCUTION IS IT POSIIBLE TO CALIBRATE??????? ### Assistant: I apologize but it is not clear to me :smileytongue: ...may you explain it better with some examples of what you need to obtain ? - fuzzy logic SUPPOSE WE HAVE TEMPERTURE RANGE WHICH -100(MINUS HUNDRADE) TO +100 SO USING SCALE INSTRUCTION I WANT TO CALIBRATE IT. BUT BECASUSE OF FBD IS NOT AVAIBLE IN MY LICENCE VERSION I CALIBRATE IT WITH COMPUTE INSTRUCTION. bUT IT GIVES FALSE READING . SO HOW TO CALIBRATE IT. Following the instruction I usually use: Rate = (scaled max. - scaled min.) / (input max. - input min.) Scaled value = (input value - input min.) x rate + scaled minimum Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Do you mean calculate rather than calibrate?? If so, try this Out = ((ScaledMax - ScaledMin) / (RawMax - RawMin) * In + ScaledMin Where in your case ScaledMax is 100 and ScaledMin is -100All you need to know is the raw span (min and max) of the data coming in. If this is still not what your looking for, please include more details. I had done same thing but it doesnot show negative values because of our equation always in positve value. so to get the proper negative values means for 0(raw count or for 4ma) i have to getminus 100 and for 30840 rawcount iwant 100 values but using this formula it will not wok Take a look to the attached screenshot.... it seems to work fine.... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RNADiagnosticsSrv.exe exception cannot find file File is located in C:/program files/common files/ rockwell. All RNA are located in this folder. Uninstalled and reinstalled Factory Talk programs. The error is a windows cannot find file error, occurs during startup. RSLogix toolkit runs correctly from start menu. Would like to get rid of error.Thanks ### Assistant: Do you have a screenshot of the error ? Also, which software you're using and which version... This could help to reply.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Screenshot is attached. Software: Automation Toolkit 9398KIT1B No easy to me to find a valid solution... :smileysad: Anyway, a similar problem and the same message is threated in the following LINKTake a look to the last three posts, talking about malware on that PC... could be possible... Also a similar problem in Aid 40652 ... but seems to happen in another situation, anyway, just to try... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CSTTimestamp Why are there 2 CST Timestamped Input Data tags for a DI Module shown in the tag table: Local:1:I.CSTTimestamp[0] Local:1:I.CSTTimestamp[1] Why is the tag value for the former negative?How can tell the time valve from the tag values? ### Assistant: From Aid 16988 : The CST is a 64 bit number that is held in a array of dint[2]. The input modules return all 64 bits but only the lower 24 bits are currently used in the output modules when scheduling is used. Thus time stamping is limited to 16.7 seconds into the future. This is based on the 24 bits being used (2 raised to the 24th give 16,777,216 micro seconds).Since this could change in the future its recommended that the ladder maintain both dint's and use the carry bit when adding a value to the lower 32bits as an overflow into the upper dint. When adding values to the lower 32 bits the number will become negative at some time and sometime later rollover to zero. When the value rolls back to zero is when the carry bit will get set. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Barcode Scanner data Is there a way to direct incoming scanner data to specific string entries. ### Assistant: Oh yea. I am using SE standalone. Well, the question that will drive your solution is what kind of scanner are you using?Are you using a keyboard wedge scanner or a serial/USB? If it's a wedge, the thing you can do is prompt the operator with a VBA screen and put in code to set the tag. If it's a serial/USB, you're looking at creating an activeX control w/ exposed methods/properties that you would then tie to a tag. Probably not the answer you were hoping for, but both of those scenarios are things I've had to do in the past. And it's always depended on the hardware that was either there or spec'd out. Hopefully, it's a wedge scanner, you'll have better control over the scanning procedure. Good luck! -Mark www.theAPAKGroup.com I am afraid that it is a USB scanner Gryphon D100. The PC doesn't have a keyboard. The only thing the operator has to to is put focus on the string entry box. I have the scanner set up to enter. Since the scanner does the enter if the focus is not on the box it will cause a page change or what ever focus is on. Smoke, you may want to experiment with the User Configurable Driver in KepwareEX or Kepserver Enterprise. Tech note 22399 gives an illustration on how this can be used to receive barcode information with a serial scanner. I suspect it may also work with a USB scanner. If so, your operators can scan the barcode and have this write to a tag that the HMI can monitor. If this works, I'd like to hear back - I've not done this with a USB barcode scanner and only once with a serial scanner. I would love to try the KEPware solution but I don't have a license for it, and I don't think I can get them to buy it for just 1 small app. If you are looking to experiment, you can run it in demo mode for 2 hours. Only alternative I could see would be to write your own OPC server. I stopped trying and moved the wireless scanner base over to the PLC. The PLC is a bit away from the opperator stand, so at the end of shift they have to walk over and put the scanner on the charger.I was able to point the data straight to a tag though. Now if I could just get the Display to change with the PLC. I tried an Display Even, but that didn't work. The trick to getting an SE graphic to change based on a command from the controller is to use the Change event of some numeric display in a graphic. When the value of the associated tag changes, the Change event fires. Now your code can examine the value of the tag and depending on the value use the ExecuteCommand method to run a Display command. See tech note 22007 for details on how to do this. BTW, the numeric display can be hidden if you like. Also, a good practice is to cache the graphic containing your VBA with the Display <screenname> /ZA command so that it does not have to be visible all the time. Sweet, Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet comms between 2 ML1400's and a panelview plus I have a system, which pumps adhesive from a drum to a melter and then the application head. I'm presently using a ML1400 and a PV+. We are going to add a second identical system. In this system I will be using a second ML1400 and the existing PV+. All communication is Ethernet through an ethernet switch. From what I know, communication between two micro's and a panelview is not a problem. But, there is a possibility that one of the systems could be powered down if not in use, will this cause the panelview give error messages if it does not see the ML that's powered down? Also, can the status of I/O be exchanged between the two ML's? ### Assistant: The Panelview will show the communication error... :smileysad: unless you configure the Diagnostic List to not poping up in that case... using Diagnostic list Setup in the System Folder of your application... See Aid 40990... You may use some message instructions to exchange data between the two controllers... be aware that the value in one PLC will not be synchronized with the other PLC, due to the asynchronuos characteristic of the message. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Three PVP600 - Trying to Keep the Same Project We have three PVP600, one on the MCC and the other two in two seperate production rooms. They all talk to the same PLC via ethernet. The panelview in the MCC shows detail for both rooms and alarm and stuff for both rooms. The panelviews in the seperate rooms are to only show details and alarm and stuff for their room. For simplicy in keeping backup and making changes is there an easy way that we can use the same FactoryTalk View Project for all three panelviews. We don't really want to have three different projects for each of the panelview, or have to make significan changes before downloading to each panelview. I don't know if it is possible, but is there some sought of system variable such as IP address that we may be able to use to simply hide screens and inhibit alarms that are not applicable to certain rooms. ### Assistant: Hi Smithy, there is a similar thread at this LINK... Basically the only possibility you have is to choose a way to have the operator select the application to use, maybe through a Login as SharonB suggested and after that you will use only the displays that operator needs...Obviously your application will contain all the displays for all the plant. Unfortunately there isn't the possibility to check such as the IP address... :smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ODBC Format Data Log File I want to log the data from RSView32 SCADA into Access data base and reporting in Excel. How to make ODBC connectivity for the above application, and what steps do I have to follow to make it workable ### Assistant: There are a couple of technotes that explain these possibilities and configuration: Aid 39707 - Data Log Model to MS Access using ODBCAid 29789 - MS Excel to view data from ODBC These are Tech Connect contract users reserved docs...if you cannot get them, I may send you an e-mail with some infos about this argument...if you want them send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your E-mail address... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: AlarmOn command in active and standby macro in RSView Studio 4 In a redundant system I have active and standby macros to control which server is in charge. Shall the AlarmOn command be in both the active and the standby macro? Shall the alarm be on on both the primary and the secondary server? ### Assistant: The following is taken from Aid 38160: Select the Components tab and configure your On startup components. Note: In a non-redundant system, enabled On startup components would typically include Alarming, Data logging, Derived tags and Events. However, in a redundant system, Alarming is the typically the only component that runs on both the Active and Standby servers. The remaining components are typically running only on the Active server and are therefore started in the On active macro and stopped in the On standby macro. Only components that should be running on both the Active and Standby servers should be configured in the On startup components. Configure an On active macro for commands that should be run when the server becomes Active (this includes startup). Note: If you have checked the ‘Alarming’ checkbox, you do not need to place the ‘AlarmOn’ command in the On active macro. Configure an On standby macro for commands that should be run when the server becomes Standby. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem exporting RSView32 database I have a system running RSView 32 Runtime 5k 7.20.00 I want to export the database to CSV but there is no Database Import/Export wizard on any of the menus.Can anyone help please? ### Assistant: Go to Start --> Programs --> Rockwell Software --> RSView32 ToolsThere you will find the tool Database Import & Export Tool Hope this helps. The menu goes like this: Start --> Programs--> Rockwell Software--> RSView32 Tools and Utilities (not RSView 32 tools) I think my version must be quite early, there is not a database import/export tool under this menu. Ok, I didn't read your question in detail. As you have only a runtime version and not RSView32 Works on your computer,you will not be able to import or export the database. That's why you will not find the tool on your computer. The runtime licence was the first thing I thought of however my colleague at one of our other sites has only got a runtime licence but he has the facility to export the database in the same way as your fist reply (he was the first person I rang when I couldn't find it on mine. I have searched on my pc for the executable that runs the export utility but it isn't on my pc. Thanks for your assistance EdfEnergy, I'm pretty sure you would need more than just to copy the executable - I expect it has to be properly installed. Best way to do that is to install the full RSView32 Works program. If you are concerned about people editing the application, you could always delete the RSV32.EXE and RSView32.EXE programs in the C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSView directory. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Enterprise drop connection to 1756 L61 Pls share your experience/solution if you had same problem. Problem Defination: FT Server/Studio and RSLinx Enterprise are installed on one computer.Once in while Online folder under Tagbrowser shows no tags from controllogix, thoughall physical connection was ok. Controllogix cpu was in run mode.No antivirus software installed.No fire wall turn on I Tried following.....I try to delete data server & re create shortcut. did not work.I try to reinstall RSLinx enterprise, did not work.I try to reconfigure Factory Talk Directory, did not work. This thing happen two times in last 15 days after distributed application was up and running since 8-10 month. ThanksNilesh ### Assistant: Check here: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46762 Basically, it can be a corrupted configuration file. Answer shows how to replace the corrupted file. JHutch Not sure if you found a solution Nilesh but when this happens to me I usually reboot the PC and all is well. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Share data to buisness system I have been to one Integrated Architecture / Network Convergence Seminar unfortunetly untill a person does it will the information stick. The time is here for me. Our first project is to share a running parts count to our AS400 system. Here is what we have in place Functioning Business system (IT): Network closets with Fiber connection between other closets and the main server (Not My system so I don't have many details) Out manufacturing system. (IT) has help in planning this a bit with me. What we did is place a Network rougher in each closet for our Manufacturing system with a fiber link to the business system where (IT) created a VPN to link our rougher. These I believe are on the level 3 of the integrated architecture. (IT) has requested this information and will create the necessary link between our VPN and there system What I need is how I should get these tag value to them. In this project I have a1756-L61 V16 Contrologix Processor1756-ENBT/AWindows 2000 PC running RSView32 Should I use the RSVeiw32 application to collect the data and output it to a network folder? Then what format? ODBC if (IT) has this and I can figure how it works. I have 0 experiences with. Or the dBase IV format witch I see a problem with because the file name changes when you wish to delete old data. I have some experience with collection data this way and graphing it in the application. If I use this should I use the existing PC that is on this system to collect this data or should I get a dedicated data collection PC assuming I will be expanding this to other operation on the network in the near future. We do have an Andon system should I get this system to collect the data and share with (IT)? Or Should I message out of the PLC directly (Our Preferred method to keep as many devices that could fail out of the path) but with this will I need more hardware and in a EWEB card? Please Point me in the right direction. ### Assistant: Capple,We used to have an AS400 and had to communicate between two PLC-5's and the AS400 system. We used to use an NT workstationfor the translation. We have switched to Oracle and now use an (XCOUPLER) from Online Development. They are a RockwellEncompass Partner and we read from Oracle to the PLC-5's every 5 seconds. We read/write to Oracle using socketcommunications via the EWEB module. One of these solutions should work for you. The XCOUPLER will work with theIBM AS/400 database.Good Luck. I agree with the previous post - Online Development has some really innovative products and you would do well to look at them. Having said that, you could simply log data to an ODBC datasource and let IT query it into whatever database you want to use. Or you could use Factorytalk Transaction Manager to read data either from RSView32 or directly from RSLinx. Hopefully one of these options suits the application. Good luck. If the above solutions do not work, you may wish to look at building a vb interface between your business system and your plc network. I have used some of Software Toolbox's communication drivers to good effect doing some custom integration in the past. Depends on how customised your system already is. The nice thing about this is that its pretty easy to do two way communications if necessary. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Classic Lite and FactoryTalk Services Platform won't install. Are they required We are installing RSLogix 500 on a Dell Mini Laptop running on Windows XP Home Edition. RSLinx Classic Lite and FactoryTalk Services Platform won't install and the error says they aren't compatible with Windows XP Home Edition. The other required programs installed fine. Are these two programs required to use RSLogix 500 with our Allen Bradley PLC 5/05? The PLC is part of a water treatment pilot plant and we will be using a web-based subscription service to collect data from the PLC. The PLC will be linked to the laptop via Ethernet. Will we be able to get by for this application without those two programs on our laptop? Thanks, ### Assistant: CCruz, without RSLinx Classic, you would only be able to do offline development - no downloading to controller, no online edits. Frankly, I'm surprised you got RSLogix 500 to install on XP Home. I highly recommend getting a supported O/S installed on that computer. You'll just end up wrestling with support issues and wasting a lot of your valuable time if you try to work around XP Home. Only other way I see is unnecessarily complicated - install VMWare or Virtual PC and get a supported O/S for the guest O/S. But that seems like more work than it is worth IMHO. n"}
{"text": "### Human: No Display on H.I.M Hi I have a 20BD180A0ANNANA0 PowerFlex 700 V.S.D that has a problem with the display on the H.I.M.The drive is okay, we can get it started through drive explorer software and by the H.I.M, but do not get any display on the H.I.M. The backlight works okay on the H.I.M (20HIMA4).We have checked the ribbon cables going to the H.I.M, everything seems okay.Is there a circuit board that we can replace to fix this problem as I do not want to send the drive back for remanufacture. ### Assistant: First I can suggest to replace just the HIM (unless already done :smileytongue: ) and if the new one will work, that obviously means that the one that stays blank is faulty. Otherwise, there are seriuos probability you need to send the entire drive to repair / substitute...:smileysad: But, as optimist as I'am, I think that you just need to replace the HIM... (I hope so... :smileywink: ) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hey Fuzzy Logic; We were experiencing the same problem with the PowerFlex 700 VSD and we called in a Tech guy who said it was probably the hard drive but was not 100 percent sure and was going to repairt it the next day soon as we got clearance from management so he can take a further look at it. Then someone pointed him to the automation forum and we had to get a new HIM which was basically the problem. I was scared that it might have been a corrupted HD in which case they are nearly impossible to fix. n"}
{"text": "### Human: MOV instruction The MOV instruction shown in page 6-3, 1756-RM003G-EN-P Logix5000 Controllers General Instructions Reference Manual described that A SINT or INT tag converts to a DINT value by sign-extension. What does that mean? Any example? ### Assistant: Following screenshot explains the conversion method and gives also an example .... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: modbus over Ethernet I have several devices in my Ethernet Network, need to get some data (Modbus) from them I, How could i do thisDo I need any additional Driver or i can set directlly from RS linx Main device is Contrologix 1756 Thanks a lot in advance!! ### Assistant: I guess I am confused, do you want to retrieve modbus data from the other devices with a ControlLogix PLC? or do you want to get all the data back to a SCADA System? Either way there are options, and I guess question #2 is do all of the modbus devices support Modbus TCP, or just Modbus RTU? If your needs is to control some Modbus TCP/IP devices from a ControlLogix, then you may use a module made by Prosoft:http://www.prosoft-technology.com/content/view/full/8968 If you have already an Ethenet/IP module in your ControlLogix chassis, as this will not support Modbus Protocol, you may want to use a gateway, like the one in the following link:http://www.prosoft-technology.com/content/view/full/7365 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk security How do I change the default user name in Factory Talk version 5.0. I want a different name for the default user. ### Assistant: Unfortunately, there is no way to delete or rename the DEFAULT user in FactoryTalk. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix1100, PowerFlex40, and RSLogix500 I am writing an application that uses a MicroLogix1100 Channel 0 in Modbus RTU mode to control a PowerFlex40 drive. The application requires several READ REGISTER(s) (03) instructions. I am writing the message parameters to set the starting address of the VFD parameter location (.TFN) and number of registers to read (.NB). When the rung is verified it is accepted, but when the verify all is used, I get the error Word is not writable at word level. Will this method work in a processor? BST MOV 1 MG250:4.TFN NXB MOV 4 MG250:4.NB NXB MOV 1 N251:8 BND ### Assistant: Ned, the .NB is a read only value, thus it is not possible to use in a move instruction...you cannot write inside it a value programmatically, but only way is through the Setup Screen of the message... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: the replacement for 2707-V40P2 Please advise the replacement for 2707-V40P2 ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a direct replacement for DTAM.... :smileysad: You may either consider the use of a small Panelview Standard (300u - 300) or a Panelview Plus 400... Just you need to create a new application from scratch, as it is not possible to import the existing... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Enterprise Shortcuts referencing devices with the same name in FT View SE Hi I ran on this phrase in the RSLinx Enterprise connection help file  ... Shortcuts reference devices by name, and changing the name breaks the reference.  so just out of curiosity. What happens if two devices have the same name ?I hope the network route to the control device is taken into account. Marnix ### Assistant: Marnix, you may have two shortcuts in RSLinx Enterprise that are referred to two devices with the same name... obviously the path makes the differance....:smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: totaliser The platform for rslogix using which dont have fbd because of it is mini programming package. i want to do the totaliser for toal;ta water fl;ow. i tried one logic for that i took sample for particular period and then add it to toaliser but i am quit confusing if flow rate is highthis may not work perfectly so there is any alternative method for this one. rahul ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the following thread : http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&message.id=634&query.id=228876#M634 Maybe there is what you need... if you have problem to open the technotes indicated, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address...I may send you back some examples... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic rahul_2433@yahoo.com n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using Excel 2007 with RSLogix 500 I have been using Excel to edit the database in RSLogix 500 for many years. My company recently upgraded to MS Office 2007 and quite often RSLogix 500 will become unresponsive while I am editing in Excel. I am using version 8.1 of Logix 500. Anyone else having this issue? ### Assistant: Just a couple of questions.... :smileywink: Which is your operating System ?Did you get an error when the software *become unresponsive* ? - fuzzy logic I am using XP Pro SP2. We always try to stick with the most compatible OS because we use a lot of Rockwell software. I do not get an error message. The program just locks up and I have to do an End Task in Task Manager. My guess is that there are issues with Excel 2007 that haven't yet been addressed by Rockwell. Maybe this is not the case since Office 2007 has been out a few years, maybe it's just me. :( I guess you have already tried either to *repair* the RSLogix500 installation or complete uninstall/reinstall Isn't it ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: accessing non allen bradley devices with OPC software I have given all our Allen Bradley devices IP addresses on our network. This has made life easier for a lot of reasons. I have now been asked to put data from our checkweighers onto the Panelview plus screens for our operators. the checkweigher company want to run CW_OPC_V2_0_19. Can this be accessed through either Panelview plus directly, SLC 500 or Logix 5000? If so can someone give me a step by step describtion how please. ### Assistant: Neither of the devices mentioned can access your OPC server... :smileysad: Which is the protocol used by the checkweigher ? - fuzzy logic TCP/IP protocol. is there software that can link the two? Hmmm... may you post the exact model of your checkweighers ? Thanks....- fuzzy logic Yes. They are Cintex CS4000 What I may suggest is to check the possibility to use a Kepware driver in PanelviewPlus to go directly to communicate with your checkweighers, either using an available protocol over ethernet, or using an hardware gateway to convert the protocol used in that devices to a protocol compatible with PLC or PanelviewPlus (Ehternet/IP). At the following links some examples of gateways.... http://www.hms.se/products/abx.asphttp://www.psft.com/prosoft/products/stand_alone_gateways/ethernet/ethernet_ip - fuzzy logic I think you may have saved me some hard work here as the checkweigher people want to fit a very costly adapter to create TCP/IP. The links you have sent seem to be able to do this directly. Or am I jumping the gun? Really I don't know... :smileytongue: anyway, check what is available on your checkweighers in terms of comm ports (serial, ethernet etc...) try to retrieve informations about the protocol used in these ports, and then you may search the right converter you need to transfer the informations between those devices and logix via Ethernet/IP. For example, if you have a serial port available on your checkweighers, this converter could be what you need... http://www.hms.se/products/products.asp?PID=110&ProductType=Anybus%20Communicator I apologize I'm not able to help you more....:smileysad: - fuzzy logic No problem and thanks for your time at least I know what direction to head. Ok, hope this will help.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PROXIMITY SENSORS 3 WIRE DC I'M looking for a 3 wire dc PNP 8MM BARREL 2-4 mm sensing distance NC output pico sensor 24 vdc I'm looking for a 3 wire DC NPN 12 MM BARREL 3- 6MM SENSING distance NC output micro sensor 24 vdc We are trying to displace a pepperl & Fuchs application with the above specifications. I did not see anything in the catalogs. Thank-you ### Assistant: You may want to look at AB's Bulletin 871 prox. sw. from their product directory page. Also, check www.automationdirect.com/proximity for prox. switches. Not pushing another brand but I've used these and they service very well. Also, AutomationDirect has a very good, general discussion on Sourcing/Sinking for use of NPN or PNP sensors. 3 wire dc PNP 8MM BARREL 2-4 mm sensing distance NC output pico sensor 24 vdcAB part number 872C-M3CP8-P3 is a Proximity Sensor, 3-Wire DC Extended Range, 8mm Diameter, Tubular:Nickel Plated Brass, 3mm Sensing Distance, N.C., Source (PNP) Output, 3-pin Pico o QD 3 wire DC NPN 12 MM BARREL 3- 6MM SENSING distance NC output micro sensor 24 vdcAB part number 872C-M4CN12-D4 is a Proximity Sensor, 3-Wire DC Extended Range, 12mm Diameter, Tubular:Nickel Plated Brass, 4mm Sensing Distance, N.C., Sink (NPN) Output, Micro QD (DC) Here is a link to the catalog (see page 2-57, PDF page 399): http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ca/c116-ca001_-en-p.pdf n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View ME Is there any way to save,restore a control list selector (any kind of list selector) selected object along with other objects in a recipe plus.Im using RSView ME 5.0 and Logix 5000 .Please Help. ### Assistant: If I have correctly understand your needs.... YES. I mean you can save a Control List Value inside a Recipe... just create a new ingredient for it, and specify the Value Tag of your selector in the Tag Set of your recipe,so that when you'll download a saved recipe , you will overwrite the actual value/position in the Control List. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes ..u got it...exactly. But still the problem is, when i restore a recipe it will not change the control list position (since it is not writing to the tag before download)It changes only after download.so there is no chance to check this before download. after download my machine will start immediatly on the downloaded recipe. Thanks a lot for ur such a quick replay.. or can u suggest me a solution for recipe control based on logix ..means using controller memory for recipe A recipe control using the controller memory could be achieved by the means of UDTs... I mean, you may define a new Data Type with your ingredients, after that you have to create an array using this new Data Type(the length is the number of recipes you need); then you have to create the logic to Save, Restore, Download and Upload your recipes. Obviously this is just the main structure of what you may create, and usually you have to complete the logic considering all what your operator needs. Following a screenshot of a basic recipe made in controller....for sure also other methods are possible solutions, just this is an example...:smileytongue: The Save operation brings the new data prepared by operator and saves them inside an element of the Recipe array in the PLC specified by the operator. The Restore operation brings data saved in a recipe array element in the controller and copy it to the HMI current values. Then you have to prepare the logic to Download the Current Values to your tags, and also to Upload your application tags to the Setup Values, from where you may then save to a new array element in the controller. As you can see there is the needs to add more controls to that example, just I want to point the fact that with these kind of recipes, you have the possibility to manage the Control Lists as needed, before download new values. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thanks for ur great contribution.. I didn't get any way to incorporate a listbox entry in a native recipe object...Im going for the second option..recipe based in controller.... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Max Activation Borrow Time What is the max amount of time i can set my activation server to loan a concurrent liscense. I think the default max is 90 days? I will be using this Liscense on a laptop that always needs to stay activated but would like to stay using all concurrent liscenses and not have to move back every 90 days Any solutions? ### Assistant: If you need to use the activation as Concurrent, and also need to disconnect your PC from the Activation Server, then the only way is to have a borrowed activation for a maximum time of 90 days... - fuzzy logic so the 90 day value can not be changed? The only possibility to change the borrow time is to make it shorter than 90 days... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rehost Activations Will we ever be able to rehost node locked activations to our activation server instead of the internet server? Would be great to have that choice on automation networks that do not have internet access. ### Assistant: Hmmm, the only way to rehost/get an activation is through web site.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I was speaking from an improvement point of view. Ok, apologize for the misunderstanding.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Trending data How do I set up a trend so I don't loose data that I have logged?I have data log models set up but I only seem to keep data for approx three days.is it possible to save data and retrieve it by date? ### Assistant: Hi tiddlemouse, may you please specify the software you're using (View SE - View ME ? ) I may suppose that you're talking about ViewME, but....There are substantial differances between the two, so it is important to give you the correct answer...:smileytongue: Also, it could be useful to know: - how many and which type of tags you have in your Log model- with which frequency do you need to save those data- how do you setup Maximum Data points value in Datalog (ViewME - default is 1000, you may set it up to 300.000) If you're talking about ViewME, there are some useful infos in the following thread... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=FTStudio&thread.id=843&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic About the last question: is it possible to save data and retrieve it by date? ViewME - see technote 36854 (ViewME doesn't offer many possibility :smileysad: )ViewSE - see this thread Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thanks for all infoi will work through all the tech notes and see how i get onps i'm working with view ME only using 6 tags reading temperature Ok tiddlemouse...hope the above will help you to solve your needs... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Servo Motor Life expectancy I am using AB Servo Motor Model ### Assistant: It is required to call in Tech Support in order to get this information.... :smileysurprised: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/index.html - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx OEM, Windows 2000, ControlNet PCIC A My system developed a problem on a startup. RSLinxOEM will not find any devices on startup. I just applied the changes in Tech Note (or answer ID) 43674 and it did not help. The firmware on the PCIC A card is now 3.10.Windows2000 is SP4, The link version is 2.42 Build 18. PCIC A Firmware 3.10Driver 4.06.01 WDM To make the system work I must disable the device in device managed and then re-enable it until Linx finds the devices on the control net. I could use some assistance ! Thanks! Jim ### Assistant: Try to modify the following Registry Key : [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesVirtualBackplane] Start=dword:00000001 USE CAUTION WHEN EDITING THE REGISTRY. MISTAKES IN REGISTRY EDITING CAN CORRUPT THE REGISTRY TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO REINSTALL THE OPERATING SYSTEM. Be sure to export the registry to a new file name before making changes in the original registry. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for the fuzzy logic solution that took care of that issue! This issue you solved came up as a side issue to another problem we are trying to work through.Our PC's running the HMI has an ethernet network as well as a control net. The Ethernet is not intentionally used by RSlinx, but whenever the ethernet connection is broken, the OPC communication stops and never resumes without restarting the Wonderware Application.RSlinx Communication events shows a Contrologix Disconnected message. Do you have any experience in that area Fuzzy? Thanks for listening and helping, it is truly appreciated! Jim Thanks for your feedback and Kudos ! :smileytongue: About the other issue you have.... may you post a screenshot with the RSLinx Communication event you get ? Also, it could be useful to see the Topic configuration you're using.... In order to post an image, take your screenshot, save it as a .jpg file, reduce its size to accomodate in the forum post without problems (I think 500 pixels in width could be fine) and use Add Attachments on the right side of your new reply. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLINXNG RSLinxNG shows up as a process running in the windows task manager. I have a Com port monitoring software running and it it showing RSLinxNG opening Com Port 1 attempting to communicate on Com 1 the closing Com 1 then after several seconds it repeats. My question is how do I keep RSLinxNG from starting in the first place? ### Assistant: RSLinx Enterprise service (RSLinxNG) could be stopped going to the Windows Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Services and stop RSLinx Enterprise (right-click and select Stop). Another way is to issue the following command: net stop RSLinxNG in the Windows command bar (Start - Run)... you may also create a batch file to run with this command when you need to stop RSlinx Enterprise to get access to your com port. Anyway, be aware that some FactoryTalk enabled products will need this service open to work... (e.g. Factory Talk View ) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Unespected Movement of Kinetix 6000 Hi, I'm new on Kinetix 6000 Systems I have a Kinetix 6000 with Controllogix PLC. When there is a energy shut down (Power lost) and it come on, there is and unespected movement of Kinetix 6000 servo. It seems that Kinetix take and save last instruction and when power come on it execute last instruction. When unespected movement occurs the controllogix PLC is on restarting process Do you know what may be the problem? Thanks ### Assistant: I can't see the logic you're running but it sounds like the code in your controller is set to act when the drive is ready to go. So when the drive powers up and gets the ready signal, the code is immediately acting on that information. It is best to program servos using a state machine so you can directly control how the code moves through its different phases. I've had many issues come up when I forgot that a piece of reset logic or run logic was triggered of a no-faults bit that I had set. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx creates its own entries that mimic the existing ones I have my IPs configured in the eth driver. RSlinx will add duplicates to thlist withour the firs three octets i.e. 192.168.1.37 gets added as 37. Sniffing the traffic shows that connections are attempted to the Address 0.0.0.37 which of course goes nowhere. I can delete them but they come back, I can delete them, shut down, delete harmony files, startup create a new set of IPs for the driver and they will come back. They are like the numbers that wont die. Anyone seen this and have a suggestion? ### Assistant: Hi;Need to know which driver...eth ip eth devices etc... what operating system on Computer and service pack level version of RSLinx?? With these can have a better shot at figuring out what is going on. AB_ETH-1running on Server 2003, WinXP and 2000 all up to datenow running 2.54 but was running 2.51 Connecting to PLC5, CompactLogix and ControlLogix, using OPC and ABR drivers all latest versions. The numbers created are not always the same but they all create these extra numberes entries and thay always conincide with the last octet of a PLC5 address. I received a reply from someone moments ago to turn off auto browse and then delete the entries. I did that and so far they have remained deleted but history has shown me that its just a matter of time. Beuller? . . . Beuller? Under DDE/OPC - Options and the General tab, uncheck the Allow RSLogix5 to Create DDE/OPC Topics. Do the same for RSLogix 500 and RSLogix 5000. Then you should be able to delete them. It doesnt create topics - It creates entries in the driver config . Evidently Forum had some auto notify issues and I just got 2 notices today...so no parade or crashing the sports car for me today.. I was trying to look things up in the compatability matrix http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=42682knowbase doc 42682 make sure your particular flavors are compatable first. OS Version etcand we see where it goes from there. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix 6000 - zero speed/stopped detection and vertcal application e-stopping Is there a status bit to tell me when an axis is stopped? Also, in a vertical application, the e-stop in the down ward (weighted) direction is abrubt to violent. How would I detun that? By adjusting the systems maximum deceleration. The up direction is fine beacuse it is lifing a load. ### Assistant: Axis_Servo_drive Data Type structure has a Motion Status word, where bit 6 is StoppingStatus.This bit is set if there is a stopping process currently in progress, and cleared when the stopping process is complete. Both MAS-motion axis stop and MGS - motion group stop instructions use this bit. Also you may check for .PC bit in MAS or MGS instructions, that is Process complete bit. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic If you want to know that the axis is stationary, you could text the velocity for being very small? - (as this is a real number, don't go testing for equal to 0.0 as it could be 0.0000001 and fail the test) I usually do this with a LIMIT instruction where the Axis.actualvelocity is being tested within a certain speed window (f.ex. As low limit 0.01 position units/sec and for high limit 0.01 position units/sec)If the Limit instruciton is true then I set a Axis_Standstillbit. You can also use the SSV instruction to set the VelocityStandStillWindow (as attribute in the SSV-instruction) of the Servo Axis.Then you can just use the Axisname.VelocityStandstillStatus (BOOL) as the status of your zerospeed of the Servo. Frank V. It depends on how set up the hardware cirucit for an e-stop. If you have the safe off and the enable wired so that the enable is removed some time (1sec) before the safe off then you can adjust the stoping action as described below. The axis properties, Drive/Motor -> Enable input checking checked and drive enable input fault checked. Fault actions -> Set Custom Stop Action. In there you will find the stopping torque used during a removal of an enable signal. you could try to reduce it down to a level that isn't so abrupt. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 500 Pro Product Activation Failed I inherited a turnkey job that uses RSLogix 500 Pro, Factory Talk ME and the activation floppy. Old license expired and the customer bought new license for both. Set up the activations for both and now RSLogix activation fails saying following activations not successfully checked out RS500P.exe, RS500.exe, RS5005.EXE. Activation tool show activation for RSLINX.OEM but no RSLogix. Did I get wrong license or do I need to install software from RSLinx ClassicOEM cd or just go home? ? I'm pretty new to this and don't want to totally screw it up. ### Assistant: Do you see the activations in the Rehost tab of the Activation tool ? If not, try to check if the .lic files of your activations are inside the folder which path is indicated in the Settings tab of the Activation tool (try to search your pc for .lic files, you need to have one file for every software you need to activate, and they should be inside the path indicated) Otherwise, verify that the Host ID you've selected during the activation process is available in the system...for example, if you have associated your activation to a network card, be sure that card is on and works.... sometimes power management features, network card integration, and other settings make the network card unavailable....it is preferrable to attach your activation to the Disk serial number. If the above is not enough, a solution could be to call in Tech Support to be guided step-by-step to correctly activate your products. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Problem solved. The customer bought RSLinx OEM instead of RSLogix 500 Pro license............ n"}
{"text": "### Human: help with 1746-BAS I've come across a 1746-bas module and have no information on it. I found the manual by allen bradley for the card, but really anwer my question with it. How would I get a BASIC program downloaded and running through hyperterminal. Thanks in advance ### Assistant: Sorry, should have read again before posting, I meant the AB manual didn't answer my question Take a look to Aid 16897 (Quick Start using HyperTerminal to Save / Restore Programs to/from a 1746-BAS or BAS-T Module) If you have problem to open the technotes indicated, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address...I may send you back some examples... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I've just sent you an e-mail.... let me know if you receive it... - fuzzy logic exactly what i was looking for, thankyou Nice, I'm happy for that.... :smileyvery-happy: Thanks for the feedback and the Solution Mark also... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: I configured ML1500 port 0 for modbus master and now can't connect my laptop or HMI on either port Help! I am trying to figure out how to use my ML 1500 as a modbus master to get data from a power meter. I got some info from my AB suppier's tech support but they didn't seem to be really experienced in using modbus. Anyway, have been using port 1 to connect to my HMI and as the port I connect my laptop to and was wanting to use port 0 as the modbus master port. Once I configured port 0 as a modbus RTU master then I downloaded the new program to my PLC and lost all comms on port 1. I can't get anything through my laptop or HMI on that port. The good news is that my power meter (slave device) indicates on the screen that it is getting the modbus request so that part is good now. Long story short, how do I get comms back on port 1? I am new to AB, my experience is more in Siemens PLCs and have set them up to communicate with this same meter but it looks like I screwed something up on this one. ### Assistant: A couple of things to check: Open RSlogix500, Channel Configuration and verify the setting for Channel 1. If it is configured for DF1 Full Duplex, then open RSLinx, Communication, Configure Drivers, select the RS-232 DF1 driver you should have already in Configured Drivers tab and click Configure, then Auto configure...look at the windows beside this button , should appear a message like Succesfully configured.... Then, you have to reconfigure your HMI to use the same settings you have in channel 1. If the channel 1 is configured to use another protocol, post again the setting you find in it.... Anyway, just to clear the matter, the configuration you've done inside Channel 0 isn't the cause of this communication failure... the channels are indipendent. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I looked into my channel configuration and see that I have set channel one to DH485 instead of DF1 Full Duplex. I am guessing that is the problem. How do I get RS Linx to talk to it again? Just one more question.... which is the RSLinx driver you was using to tranfer the application ? I guess DF1.... so, try to at first default the Micrologix 1500 COMM ports, following what is indicated in Aid 38697.At this point, you should communicate with your PC...otherwise follow the instructions of my previous post to reconfigure the driver... Then, modify your Channel 1 configuration in the RSLogix 500 program to be DF1 Full Duplex and re-download your application, confirming to Replace Communication setting when asked. Let me know.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: fact talk view stidio selocal factory view studio se local....when i click run time file of fact. talk view studio se local i get one error message failed to load services . and when clik developement file it gives erroir messge failed to open hmi tag.....is it due to activation problem ..if yes then wht next? any solution... rahul ### Assistant: bless, be patient.... post the exact error message you get...I mean the complete description... it will help a lot ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic aftre clicking fact talk view studio run time file and gives a loading message about the project after some times a window get pop up with title name  fatcory talk view se client and inside it a error message was failed to load services. WITH OK BUTTON. Check for Aid 33835.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic please give any other solution it is not working it has 32 gb memory is free........ rahul Hmmmm, try to delete the cache following these steps....Run the RSView SE Service Manager utility (Go to Start - Programs - Rockwell Software - RSView Enterprise - Tools to find the utility). Click the Stop button to stop the HMI server services if they are running.Under the C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRSView EnterpriseSEHMI Projects<RSView SE HMI Project Folder> folder, delete the Cache sub-folder.Under the C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRSView EnterpriseSEHMI Projects<RSView SE HMI Project Folder>TAG folder, delete files with the following extensions: .CAC, .CRC, and .CTL. Caution: Do NOT delete the .DB nor the .DAT files in the TAG folder. Run the RSView SE Service Manager utility again and click the Start button to restart the HMI server services.- fuzzy logic i had done everything ...i.e. as per your suggestion but still it is not working . i had doubt on the activation part. can you give me any procedure to check whetther activation is live or not. Becasue of virus i had problem with data logiin that i was share with previously but it was solved but again due to virus it is not working. I am sure that something is related with activation . so. guide me about this please..... Open FactoryTalk Activation Tool, and check if your activation is shown in Current Activation Tab (press the Refresh button also...)In that case all is ok about the activation. If not, check if at least it is shown in Rehost Activation Tab; if there you can see it, then it means the file is correctly installed, so, going in the Settings tab, you may verify to have the Activation Server installed and running. - fuzzy logic in current activation it was not showing anything but after clicking refresh button it was shoing. now stilll same problem came here. what do you think any ohter problem is there? if i reinstall or repair the softwrae.? rahul can anyone help me on this issue. now i ahve done one thing i reinstall the set up os win xp and then after wards by clicking on runtime file it gives me an error message. THIS APPLICATION HAS FAIED TO START BECAUSE OT80ASU.DLL was not found reinstalling the appliation may fix this problem. the window pop up screen was dispaly client .exe rahul is there any solution... Here I suggest to complete uninstall and reinstall the software... also, if possible, it would be nice to re-format your HD... :smileysurprised:I know this is usually a problem, but this just to be sure to restart in the right way... it seems to me you have many things that are not correct in your pc... (.dll errors etc.) - fuzzy logic now i have done all these things . can you tell me the procedure for rehosting of activation. Rehosting is explained in Aid 35251 and Aid 44620 ...also try to see the video at this LINK - Factory Talk Activation Quick Start Videos - Rehost an activation. If you have troubles with the rehosting process, contact the Tech Support to obtain your *new* license. - fuzzy logic recently i format my hd before that i had taken the activation file .so is it necessary to rehoost it again.After installation of sw i placed this activation comman files/rockwell/activation folder and now it is given me message that your product is succesfully activated. in factory talk activation ther e is one last tab in that it was saying that activation serverin stop(somethign like that)? but previuosly it was showing activation server is running. rahul You have to press the Start button there, as the server should be running in order to have your Concurrent license actived. If the server stops again, try to check Aid 35092 After that you will see the FactoryTalk View activation in the Current Activation tab (click refresh) of Activation Tool. If the Start button is not active (I mean it is grayed out), then you need to install the FactoryTalk Activation server first; download it from the following link. http://licensing.software.rockwell.com/Default.aspx?Page=Downloads Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-HSC Continuous counting... I am using an encoder on a process line and would like to accumulate length of material. I have an encoder wired to a 1756-HSC and am using it to measure cut lengths.I have an application program that runs in a periodic task of 10 ms. The PresentValue[0] is the input to a pulse multiplier:Mode = 1 RelativeWordsize = 32multiplier = 1000000 Output goes to InPlus on an UpDnCounter block. It works fine and is calibrated accurately except when the presentvalue[0] rolls over. When the rollover occurs I get a negative number on Pmul.Out and subtracts from the updown counter. How can I work around this? Thanks for the Help! dgross@nacsi.com ### Assistant: Answer to your issue is in this statement, taken from PMUL online help: When applying this block, it is important to note that the feedback data should not change by more than ½ the word size from one scan to the next, if rotational direction is to be properly differentiated. In the example above, if the feedback device is moving in a clockwise direction such that at scan ‘A’ it reads 0 and then scan ‘B’ it reads –2000, actual change in position is equivalent to +2096 counts in the clockwise direction. However, since these two values are more than ½ the words size, (or more than ½ the rotation of the physical device,) the PMUL instruction calculates that the feedback device rotated in the opposite direction and returns a value of –2000 instead of +2096. So, which is the count range of your HSC ?You have to change the WordSize in PMUL to remain in the right range, following the examples below. Here some examples: count range 65535 to -65536 ---- set WordSize = 17 bitcount range 2047 to -2048 ---- set WordSize = 12 bitcount range 255 to -256 ---- set WordSize = 9 bit Informations are in Logix5000 Process Control & Drives Instructions Reference Manual pages 261-262 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks -- I saw that in the online help. I am using the presentvalue of the 1756-HSC default of 16,7nn,nnn. That tag counts up to ~16,7nn,nnn then resets to 0. What word size would I use in this case? -- or is that even possible? My issue is: when presentvalue transitions to 0 -- PMUl.OUT = - 16,7nn,nnn -- and my UpDown counter goes negative... Thanks again! dgross92657 Based on the examples of my previous post, the WordSize should be 25 bit. Let me know if works... ...and if you like, click the kudos button over my posts that help...it will be really appreciated. :smileytongue: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: scale previously you explian me about scale for range minus 100 to +100 using cpt instruction.can you please explain me again. because here i dont have scale instruction ... rahul ### Assistant: Following an example.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Feedback only axis using a CLX SERCOS module Hello, The setup is a CLX processor with a 3 axis SERCOS module controlling one U3K axis. I now need to bring in an encoder as a Feedback Only axis. What's the best way? Any way of getting it onto the SERCOS module. Thanks ### Assistant: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/2090-in007_-en-p.pdf The link above is for the 2090-U3BB2-DM44 connector. This connector fits on CN1 of your U3k drive. The manual shows inputs on pins 1 through 9 of CN1 for a 5V external auxiliary encoder. As you set up the feedback-only axis in the Motion Group, the GENERAL tab of the AXIS PROPERTIES for the feedback-only axis must have the U3k drive set in the ASSOCIATED AXIS section. You will also fill out the data in the AUXILIARY FEEDBACK tab, not the MOTOR FEEDBACK tab for the feedback-only axis. Tried your suggestion and could not get RS5000 to configure the axes in that way. Found out that only the analog U3K's will configure as you have shown, the SERCOS do not have that feature. Thanks for the effort! You've hit on a VERY sore spot. I'm looking at the 2009 selection guide (JUST downloaded it to be sure). Someone from Rockwell, please tell me where the question originator could EASILY find that the SERCOS version of this drive doesn't permit auxiliary encoder input? And exactly which piece of documentation does in fact state this? The selection guide makes specific note of the auxiliary feedback input on page on page 225 of the January 2009 version (Publication GMC-SG001N-EN-P — January 2009). The connector I originally referenced sure makes it seem like there's that input available. WHERE does it say SERCOS versions don't have it? If there isn't a way of doing this directly to the U3K (I don't have any experience of these drives), then as a last resort you could purchase the 2 axis servo card that fits in the chassis (this isn't a sercos card, it can have 2 encoder inputs and drive two analog servo drives). This has gone 'out of fashion' in recent times - you would just use it to give a feedback only axis for your one encoder that gets wired back to this card in the control logix chassis. As stated, this last resort if no one else can provide a cheaper means. If I remember correctly, the card is 1756-MO2AE. Perhaps Fuzzy can point you in the right direction (he may be the resident Rockwell help on this forum)? Hi, first of all, as already indicated in other posts, I'm really not a Motion expert (I cannot know everything :smileytongue: :smileyvery-happy: ) Anyway, analysing previous posts, I can say: 1. Ultra 3000 Sercos HAS an auxiliary encoder input available.2. The Aux Feedback tab in RS5000 is enabled only when you have set the Loop Configuration value on the Drive/Motor tab to Aux Feedback Only, Aux Position Servo, Dual Position Servo, Dual Command Servo, or Aux Dual Command Servo. (this statement is in the help file accessible through Help button in the Tab,anyway, to understand the Loop Configuration possibilities, please use the manual in the LINK, online Help contains some errors... :smileysad: )3. The Ultra 3000 Sercos is visible on the Sercos Ring as only one node (for example Kinetix 6000 has the possibility to appear as two axes/nodes on the Sercos Ring), so you cannot use it as a Servo axis and also associate it to a Feedback only axis... :smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, I'm going to paraphrase your statement to be sure I understand: The Ultra3000 SERCOS drive does have an auxiliary encoder input, but you cannot configure the LOGIX system to use it and the drive at the same time. Is this an accurate read-back? Yes, this is exactly what I was writing...apologize if my english is not so clear...:smileytongue: With an Ultra3000 Sercos you cannot use the drive and have also the auxiliary encoder attached to a Feedback-only axis in the same time... you may use the auxiliary feedback in the control loop of your servo drive axis though... Anyway, congrats for your new rank ! - fuzzy logic Just to confirm what NorwichUK wrote, the 1756-M02AE is the possibility you have to get an auxiliary encoder to attach to a Feedback-only axis. - fuzzy logic I am looking at the 1756-M02AE motion card as a possiblity. It was also suggested that I could use the smallest (least expensive) U3K SERCOS drive (2098-DSD-005-SE) on the SERCOS ring and just wire the encoder to it. From a cost standpoint the drive is less money! Any thoughts or drawbacks to this idea? The SERCOS option for this class of drive is a sort of add-on feature. Was it THAT expensive to have the auxiliary feedback passed through the SERCOS telegram like the Kinetix lines? The Kinetix lines have great features, and one GLARING drawback; a single axis is not very cost effective. The Ultra 3000 would be good, except for this encoder drawback. As you know the Ultra 3000 project is *pretty* old... I mean it was already there when Kinetix has been launched...So, I wouldn't expect too many enhancements or such a new feature in those drives (I'm agree with your observations though.. :smileywink: )I'm more confident in a new Kinetix style standalone drive that might bring this and other functionality from the actual Kinetix line of servo drives. - fuzzy logic augustco, the Ultra 3000 Sercos used to just read the encoder and associate it to a Feedback-only axis will be a valid solution... really I've not tested it, but I think this will haven't particular problems (I think the drive shouldn't be enable to avoid faults, but you may anyway read the encoder value through Sercos) A suggestion for the near future in your new applications, could be to use either a Kinetix 2000 where applicable (I mean not all U3k drive and motor combinations are directly replaceable with it) or a Kinetix 6000, then you may have two nodes available on the Sercos Ring and maybe this will be cheaper than buy a new drive or a motion module just to *attach* to it the auxiliary encoder. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controllogix - 1756-IF6CIS/A Analog Module - Configuration - Scaling System Archetecture - 1756-IFCIS/A Analog Module, installed in remote CNET rack. Module - Configured for Float Data, Channel 2 is configured for 0-20ma signal, sensor off = 0, notch filter 60hz, digital filter = 0, RTS = 100 Scaling = Low Signal = 4ma = 0 Low Engineering Units, High Signal = 20ma = 60 High Engineering Units (Updated from a value of 10) Application Information: 4-20ma Loop analyzer connected to field device (Shaft Speed Transmitter where 4ma = 0 hz, 20ma = 60 hz) SIS02A0301:2:I.Ch2Data = 4.1 float value when motor is rotating at 1750 rpm. Plc in remote run mode. Motor starts, SIS02A0301:2:I.Ch2Data ramps 0 - 4.1 float value. Motor stops, SIS02A0301:2:I.Ch2Data ramps down 4.1 to 0 float value (FYI Shaft Speed Transmitter is coupled to a secondary fan shaft which is speed reduced by pulley sizing) (ratio unknown) Question: When the High Engineering Units have been updated from commissioning value of 10 to 60, the SIS02A0301:2:I.Ch2Data does not change in value ( remains at approx. 4.1 when motor is running ) What additional requirements are necessary to allow the updated high engineering unit to re-scale SIS02A0301:2:I.Ch2Data ? FYI: The processor can not be taken offline, and placed off-scan, in program mode. Please advise, Thanks, ### Assistant: Allen, Have you tried Inhibiting the connection, then clearing the inhibit. This should force it to re-connect to the card, causing the updated configuration to be written to it. To do this, open the module Properties window, select the Connection tab and check the Inhibit Module checkbox -- and apply. Then uncheck the box and apply. I couldn't find an SSV on the MODULE object which would force a config download. I think there may be a way to MSG to it (with a CIP generic message), but Fuzzy or someone who knows way more esoteric details than I do would have to describe how to do that! Whichever way you do this, you'll freeze the incoming data until it reconnects. But the value in question is wrong anyway, any you'll only have it down for a few seconds. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ Following an example of my *esoteric* way to re-configure the modules.... :smileyvery-happy: Please note that ALL of :C tags (configuration) will be written to the module. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Installing Drive Guard Option on Enhanced Power Flex 70 Drive We have many power flex 70 drives, some with devicenet, ethernet. Some have encoder feedback, some do not. Some have Drive Guard, some Don't. In an effort to keep from having 5 different drives on the shelf, we had researched and thought we could just stock a drive with the last 3 digits of its model number as DC0, which is a devicenet model, (D) enhanced (C) with no feedback (0). We received new equipment with one that is the same size, but it has the following as the last 3 of model number, EG0, which is Ethernet (E), Enhanced with Safe Off (G), and no feedback. We stock the 20-Comm-D and 20-Comm-E communication modules, so we can just change it out based on the comms we need. However, I have been wondering if we can just install the optional Safe Guard module into the Enchanced (C) model and it will work for the (G) application? Trying to keep from having to stock another drive. Thanks. ### Assistant: The DriveGuard Safe-Off option 20A-DG01 will work in every PF70 that has the Enhanced Control board (C). The (G) you have in your product code is just the indication that this module is already available in the drive as a Factory installed Option. The DriveGuard User Manual explains how to install this option in your drive. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View SE: A resource was: error , memory leaks Hi,I have serious problems with Factory Talk SEafter 5-10 minutes my screen becomes unusable, graphics get crazy and I can Exit only if I am lucky, othervise Task manager- CLOSE.. Answer ID 8916 is my problem but solution does not work, I have XP SP3 , I have Classic Theme.And my software is Factory Talk View SE 5.00.00 CPR 9. ### Assistant: Janko, unfortunately CPR 9 of FactoryTalk View SE is NOT compatible with Windows XP SP3... I don't know if this is the problem, but in effect unexpected results could be generated by this untested configuration... Aid 42682 contains a table with the supported OS version for your software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic yes SP2 solved the problem. maybe a patch can be done to avoid this error... thanx fuzzy n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML1100 and a Cognex In-sight over ethernet/IP Has anyone communitcated with a Cognex Insigt Camera with a Micro1100 over ethernet? The msg instuction cofuses the crap out of me. Can anyone help me out? ### Assistant: Unfortunately I have not experienced this, anyway I've found an example in anotherForum that might help you...try to take a look to the following LINK edit: renewed LINK Hope this helps…and eventually thanks to the user who provided this example... he has also an account in this Forum (chakorules) :smileywink: - fuzzy logic This is what I needed. Thanks! :smileyhappy: Nice ! I have forwarded your thanks to the author at the other Forum. Thanks again for your feedback and Kudos ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Help I`m new to plc`s so please bear with me I`m working on a project I have a banner gateway and several nodes operating well sites across town.All the banner stuff I have working and transfering I/O between them. However here`s my problem.I have a micrologix 1400 plc.I tried to hook my ethernet cable from PC to the 1400`s ethernet port and can`t get it t work. But I can communicate through the serial round connection from my pc.to the plc.I must also be able to hook the banner gateway to the plc and use modbus to send mapped I/O to the plc so I`m guessing I need to hook the gateway to the 9 pin d sub 485 connection to do this.Hope this makes some sence to someone.Banner gateway dx80g9m6s6n6. I need plc comunication 101 How do I get to the plc forum? I have a support number. Thank you in advance for any reply.Wanted to try here before get on the phone. ### Assistant: First, the access to the PLC board.... :smileywink: If you have your TechConnect Authorization Number, insert it in the Knowledgebase Profile - My Profile - TechConnect Support Contract. See screenshot... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controllgix (1756-L55) fault . Hi,This is Manish Goyal from india, I am facing one problem in controllogix (1756-L55), which is going to fault mode in every 2-3 hrs. Following message display in Major fault window in controller properties. Type-04 (Unknown Fault)(Code-7361) Unknown Fault occurred. Contact GTS with following information.Fault information Dump.info[0]:00000002info[1]:00002a31info[2]:00003987info[3]:017de838info[4]:00000000info[5]:00000000info[6]:00000000. Kindly let me know what can be cause for this fault. Thanks & RegardsManish Goyal ### Assistant: Hi mgoyal, You need to contact RA Tech Support and forward this information to them for analysis. There is additional information that may be required to determine the cause of the fault. Also, it is important to understand that it is not always possible to determine the cause of these faults even after reviewing the fault log dump and other information. Finally, if you don't have a valid Tech Connect contract, please contact your local A-B Distributor and they can help you get this information to RA Tech Support. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Determine if data file is being used I am re-working a PLC 5 application that was previously done by an outside contractor. I am trying to remove some of the unused data files. I'm not sure the Find is working correctly. For example, I have a data file of F16 that I added and I use in several program files. When I search on F16, nothing is found. How can I accurately determine if a data file is being used in a program file? I am using version 7.1 of RSLogix 5. ### Assistant: Hi, If you go into the Data Files folder and select the specific Data File (F16 - Float for example), there is a button called 'Usage'. Select that button and look for addresses that have an  X  in their location. These addresses are used in the program. Addresses with a  .  are not being used. As a test, you can create a new Integer data table file (Nxx). Set the number of elements to 10 for this example. Then create a MOV instruction in logic with the Source as Nxx:0 and the Destination as Nxx:1. Now, going back to the Data Files folder, if you select the 'Usage' button for Data File Nxx, you will see next to Nxx:0 and under offset 0 and 1 an  X  indicating these addresses have been used. All other addresses will have a  .  indicating these addresses are not used. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769-SDN - Slave Mode Can anyone provide some guidance on how to setup a 1769-SDN to act as a slave on a devicenet network? I need a Compact Logix to provide data to another Compact Logix with a 1769-SDN module. I need step by step and have not been able to find in the module literature. ### Assistant: There is an useful document in the knowledgebase that may help on that....Aid 19646 Also, Aid 20488... both are referred to other PLCs, but should give you all the informations you need to have to obtain the slave mode to work for your processor. This last is a Tech Connect contract active users reserved document, so if you have problems to open it,send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your E-Mail address and I will send you some infos... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix 1400 Fault Hi, We would appreciate any help regarding what to do when both the green power led and the red fault led are on, and the LCD screen is blinking with no messages on it. It happened after configuring the IP settings. Previously we can reach the PLC using RSLogix500, but then we lost any communication with it. Thanking you in advance. ### Assistant: Unfortunately this represents an Hardware Fault...check what is indicated in the attached screenshot... often this status is not recoverable... :smileysad: I mean the unit should be sent to repair.... Anyway, this and other troubleshooting infos are in the User Manual Appendix C. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi USM-Chile, If you cannot get the solid red Fault LED to clear by power cycling then fuzzy is correct, the hardware needs to be replaced. You may need to remove the battery connection prior to power down and leave the controller in that state for awhile (anywhere from an hour to overnight). Also, if you were trying to do the initial commissioning of this processor when the fault occurred then you may be elgible for another brand new ML1400 unit. So, if the fault occurred less than 24 hours after initial power-up, I suggest you contact your local A-B Distributor and request an NPSR (New Product Satisfaction Return). This should be done if you are unsuccessful clearing the Fault LED. n"}
{"text": "### Human: HomeInputStatus bit reporting wrong input I have a K2k drive with an auxiliary incremental encoder attached, configured (as AXIS_SERVO_DRIVE), and correctly wired (hookup tab, both marker and feedback buttons give desired results). The auxiliary encoder has its homing tab set with MODE - PASSIVE and SEQUENCE - Marker. To assist with physically setting up this encoder in the field, I'd planned to monitor the HOMEINPUTSTATUS bit and cause a horn to beep when detected. The servo drive to which this encoder is connected has a proximity switch connected to its home input. When the servo drive passes its home switch, both its own HOMEINPUTSTATUS bit and that of the auxiliary encoder turn on. When I turn just the encoder, I do not get a HOMEINPUTSTATUS for the encoder. We've checked the wiring; there is no connection made by us between the marker pulse of the auxiliary encoder and the home input for the drive. Can anyone explain why the HOMEINPUTSTATUS for the encoder is reporting the drive's input, rather than the marker pulse as it is supposedly configured with? ### Assistant: TJ, The auxiliary encoder (that is an additional one to the feedback device on the end of the servo), should be configured as feedback only. The HomeInputStatus reports the IO status of the home input at the drive connector. This is only valid for the real drive and there is only one bank of IO connectors per drive. So - try and re-configure the auxiliary encoder as feedback only.hope this helps. The encoder is in fact set as feedback only. It displays as AXIS_SERVO_DRIVE in the status pane in lower left corner of RS5000. Please excuse my inaccurate description. I can accept that HOMEINPUTSTATUS bit is for the drive's input only, but that should be documented better, don't you think? OK, I can't use that bit. Is there ANY way to monitor the Z pulse directly within the running program BEFORE the encoder is given an MAH command? The goal is to have the program report the Z pulse. This may prove difficult to implement (assuming that there is a bit that represents the z marker flag somewhere). The 'On' time from the marker flag is likely to be so small that you're not likely to see it come over the Sercos network as someone turns the encoder through it? Its generally better (if it can be done) to put your homing device (marker and sensor) somewhere on the final drive shaft of the assembly. So when someone takes off a motor or encoder, it doesn't matter how they refit back - you always home to a flag on the machine side, not the motor / encoder side of things. Although AB supply the Kinetix with home inputs and home functions, they don't have to be used (it could argued that you are better off using PLC IO in the local chassis and building up your own sequences of jogs, stops etc). If you need to use the home sensor for other purposes as well as an initial home, then a local input gives a good response (the Kinetix IO generally take around 30ms to provide a status through the Kinetix and over the Sercos) Sorry this isn't much help to your problem. Try this as a quick test: put a voltmeter (or a scope) onto the z leads of the encoder and turn it. See how long the pulse is - determine if its going to be long enough to be able to do whats required? The encoder is mounted on a 1-rev per cycle shaft, as it has been for the last 20 years on this model machine. Adding a sensor when the Z-pulse is already there doesn't make economic sense. I'm more than surprised to hear the home input is delayed by up to 30ms; I thought this would be part of the SERCOS IDN telegram for the drive, and the logix controller would see it only delayed by the coarse update rate. We're jumping the z-pulse to one of the registration inputs to get what we need. I have not read anywhere that inputs would be delayed from the Kinetix system. The inputs update every coarse update from the SERCOS network along with all the loop data. Of course there is a delay between whatever logic you have written to detect this input going high or low. Its in the input circuitry debounce! Reading these directly did have up to a 50ms delay, this got shortened with a release of firmware around V1.8 something (may have even been an V1.9x). You will find this info in the Kinetix manual regarding the inputs - I can have a dig if you like.BTW, this applies to all the Kinetix IO (HOT etc). The only fast stuff in the IO connector is the registration capture circuitry. Thanks NorwichUK, found the reference you made: Page 51 of 2093-UM001A-EN-P — March 2007. 10-21 ms delay for HOME, ENABLE, POS and NEG OVERTRAVEL. The high speed registrations have a 3microsecond delay. HOWEVER, it still does not answer why HOMEINPUTSTATUS for my feedbackonly encoder is reporting the HOMEINPUTSTATUS of the drive. I will concede that the feedbackonly encoder is not permitted to have this bit, but it should NOT be reporting the status of something else. The encoder is not configured to use that input, so should not be reporting it. To be honest, when I looked for the stuff in the manuals, I couldn't find it - its vanished to where it used to be! However, just when I though I was cracking up, I've found a reference to what I was refering to on the Knowledge base:- Answer ID31974This refers to the Kinetix Intsall manual May 2004 (which has been updated many times since). This info no longer there in the latest manuals - don't know why.What you are looking for is the capture time on the right column for the Inputs on the Kinetix.Apart from the registration hardware capture, all others are 50ms in this referrence on the knowledge base. THIS DID GET CHANGED (around firmware V1.85 roughly - though can't find the release notes for this either now). For the K6K, this is now 30ms (though it seems to be omitted now from the manuals??).The doc TJ McDermott pointed to is for the K2K (which you thought would have been similar) Thanks for posting the info. I've never run into any timing issues while using those inputs so had no need to dig further. To TJ's ? about the HomeInputStatus, that tag is simply the current input state of the Home Input pin on the I/O board. That is why it is unrelated to your feedback axis. It is not related to marker pulse of either the encoder on the motor or the auxiliary encoder. It's just telling you whether or not there is 24VDC applied at the Home Input pin. There is only one Home Input on the axis module, so it's the same whether you're looking at the servo_axis tag or the feedback_axis tag. Paralleling the marker pulse to the registration input is your best bet. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View SE Application Issue I have a RSView SE Application with the following issue: The RSView SE Application is reading tags from PLC1, PLC2 tags are writing to PLC1, PLC1 is a 1756-L62 Processor, and PLC2 is a Micrologix 1200. Occasionally the data on the RSView Application shows the gray box which only occurrs on data that is written from PLC2 to PLC1. The RSView Application data from PLC1 is unaffected. Has anyone ever experienced this, if so do you have any recommendations? Thanks Bob ### Assistant: First question is what data server are you using?: RSLinx Classic or RSLinx Enterprise If RSLinx Classic, go to the DDE/OPC menu and select Communication Events, check to see if any errors are logged here. If RSLinx Enterprise, check the FactoryTalk diagnostic log - in Studio, go to Tools-> Diagnostic Viewer. Any errors in either place might offer a clue. If this is intermittent, my guess is that intermittently we are overwhelming the processor and/or the network. You said you are getting the grey boxes on data that is written from PLC2 to PLC1. I wasn't sure what you meant - is the error on the PLC1 addresses or the PLC2 addresses or both? If possible, try putting the controller(s) in Program mode when the problem goes away. If the grey boxes disappear, it seems likely that the controller(s) are overwhelmed. Asking for data less frequently, increasing the communication timeslice (for Logix processor), or limiting maximum packets (if using RSLinx Classic) might help. Some good reference material is:Tech note 23089Tech Note 36830Tech Note 34324 Also, for a great white paper on how RSLinx talks to Logix processors, see the ControlLogix Performance White Paper (installed with RSLinx Classic, usually found under C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLinxENUCLXPerf.htm Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Detecting Data Logger Problems I am supporting a customers RSView SE 3.x application and wish to detect when there are data logging problems and give an alarm at the clients. I thought of trying to parse Diagnostic messages in VBA at the clients, but the clients do not get diagnostic messages issued by the server where the data logger service is running. Is there a way to receive server diagnostic messages at the clients or is there another (better) way to detect data logging issues? Thanks in advance... ### Assistant: The parse method you mentioned is the only one I know to detect datalogger problems. And you are also correct - you cannot see those on the clients. But if you have a client that you can run on the server, it can detect these messages and set a tag, which can be monitored by the remote clients. See tech note 22007 for an example on how to trigger a command on a client. Thanks for confirming my suspicisions. I thought of running a client app on the server, but there is typically no one logged on to this machine. I finally settled on a method wherein every minute I attempted to connect and query from the log values for the 'systemMinute' tag going back 5 minutes. If I get any records then I know the log is working. n"}
{"text": "### Human: QualityOf() I recently encountered an issue with the RSSQL Diff() function. Using Kepware as my OPC server communicating to a Allenn Bradley 1400 PLC, I discovered that powering down the PLC causes the Diff() Function to see different values each time it executes. This is my assumption anyway because every second execution of the transaction containing the Diff() function causes a value spike equal to the rollover value of the function.1)Can I use the QualityOf() function in the Transaction Stores Data expression builder to prevent storage of transaction data when the quality of the data point is not good? Would the expression look something like this QualityOf(Data_Point) = 0?2)And perhaps more importantly, why would the Diff() function see different values of a data point from a PLC that is not connected? ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-DHRIO/C Baud rate How do I change the DH+ baud rate of my 1756-DHRIO/C channel A from 57.6 kbps to 230 kbps? ### Assistant: The switch for Channel A should be moved from 0 to 3 ... please be aware that in this mode, only Channel A will be active, and Channel B will be disabled. This functionality was added to -DHRIO module starting from firmware 5.03 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy.....I flashed a B series to a C series for this functionality but the B series did not have the dip switch guide on it. Moving A channel dipswitch to 3 worked perfectly. Thanks again. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Version 4.0 .MER files Is there any way to uncompile these files if the original APA file is lost? ### Assistant: The .mer file (Machine Edition Runtime) file can be uploaded from a PanelView Plus terminal using the Transfer Utility. It is a compiled version of the original project and is not editable in version 4.0 (or less). In order to make changes to the 4.0 project, you must have a backup file (.apa) from the developer.From RSView Studio, use the Application Manager to restore the .apa file to editable application. Version 5.0 of Machine Edition has the option to restore the runtime file. This option is set at creation of the v5.0 runtime file (.mer). The file is restored by uploading from the PanelView Plus and running Application Manager to restore to an editable application (unless the developer has protected the file) See Aid 44554. Anyway,When the development project files have been lost, some of the project information can be recovered from the MER (Machine Edition Runtime) file itself. However, the following cannot be recovered:Parameter filesAlarm SetupDatalog filesMacro filesUnder some circumstances, the Tag Database cannot be recovered either. Take a look to Aid 8913 Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic I was told that Rockwell has a way to uncompile these files is this a false statement? I just know the method to partially recover the application I've indicated in my previous post (Aid 8913) :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Yes, they can recover it (most of the way), but it is a very manual process and depending on the complexity of the app, there may be a charge associated with it (basically have to dedicate an engineer to reconstructing the project by hand). JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with 1756-DH/RIO I'm facing a little problem with a 1756-DH/RIO module installed at the site. The module is communicating with an SLC 5/04 through channel A which is configured to be DH+ at 57.6 k. The problem is that communication has been broken since last week. The 'ok' LED on the module is constant green, and the channel A LED is flashing green. The properties of the module show a minor recoverable fault (no other details). When I reset the module through RSLogix the fault comes up again. The node address of the module is 10, and that of SLC 5/04 is 1. In RSLinx I can only see the node address 10. I have checked the cable, its ok. Kindly suggest what could I do to counter the problem? ### Assistant: Hi, what about the led status over 5/04 ? Also, try to go online to it with RSlogix500, and verify the settings for Channel 1, maybe somebody has changed them ?! The Green Flashing Led means that it is the only node on the network... what about the display indication over -DHRIO module ? Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The DH+ led on the 5/04 is constant red. When I tried to go online the 5/04 through the Prog. Terminal, I could only see the DHRIO on the DH+ network. The 5/04 wasn't visible even there. The settings for channel would not have been changed, as nobody has access to the system. The display of the DHRIO card is showing A DH, A # 10 only, A ok, B IO, scan, offline I apologize to not be so clear in my previous post... I was suggesting to go online with the SLC, I have forgotten to say ... using the serial port ... :smileytongue: then, double check the 5/04 settings are ok for your network... Anyway, the red DH+ led on the cpu is not a good thing... did you cycle power to that cpu ?Does the led stay still constantly red ? There is a technote that explains a similar problem (Aid 14319) I have the suspect of an hardware failure on that cpu... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC Flex and ADR function over DeviceNet Hi, did somebody try this? When I turn on ADR function in devicenet scanner (1756-DNB, fw 6) on display appear No of node + E89 and on device SMC Flex - Fault P5 (or PS, its hard to recognize). Firmware in SMC Flex is 3.9 and I tried also 5.x and 6.3. Thanks. ### Assistant: Hi Keyman, your problem is documented in KB in the following technotes: Aid 30710Aid 55159 Take a look to them, I think you might solve your issue. - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy, new EDS files didnt help, also their modification in this place: ParamClassMaxinst = 17* where * will vary depending on the number of parameters in the firmware verDescriptor = 15 CHANGED TO 11CfgAssembly = 0 The MaxInst and CfgAssembly are only landmarks to find right place, no changes with these parameters I make test with spare part at my labo. I use the same connection as on site, difference was only in lenght of cabel. There everything works with all firmwares. :smileymad: I dont understand... That's really strange... :smileysurprised: Obviously, even if I understand you well know about ADR function... :smileywink: you might double check indications in Aid 17536 and Aid 26692. Also, check in the field if the offline configuration of the device does not match the actual online) configuration of the device, and eventually change the offline configuration to match the online configuration. . These are the actions that I would make... hope I'm suggesting something useful :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Yes, its strange. I use ADR for more than 200 devices (PF40,70,700, SMC, encoders, some I/O and specific devices) Thanks for links to KB, they're good and I am sure now, that my steps was good. I will continue... So, OK for firmware in 1756-DNB is 6.2 and also 7.2. But in SMC only 4.2.Another combination of firmwares returns E89 on 1756-DNB. :smileyindifferent: M. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View ME and Windows Authentication I am trying to get Windows Authentication to work on PV+ CE equipment running FT View ME and have not had any success. I created a test application on a spare terminal that is connected to my process network. The settings are the same (except specific IP address) as a laptop running FT View Studio. The Windows users and groups were added to the security, made members of the local Adminstrator group and added to the Runtime security. When I run in test on the laptop, the login works properly. When run on the CE terminal, it returns Login of user 'username' failed. Insufficient access rights.. The same message occurs for valid and invalid users as well as correct and incorrect passwords. The terminal is setup on the domain, and have tried two different names (one created by IT to make sure it was valid). Any ideas on anything that needs set to allow this function to work? ### Assistant: First thing that pops in my head is this technote: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=30253 Basically, Windows 2003 Server will block logins from a PV+ by default. You can modify the security on the server to allow it, but it is not recommended by Microsoft. The other alternative (and the one I personally recommend) is to avoid Windows linked users and simply add the users you want to the ME app. Yes, this means you have to update the program and redownload to add/remove users to the security model, but it just always flat out works that way. JHutch PS Make sure that the DEFAULT user account in the ME app has access to the initial screen with the login button. Otherwise, all logins will fail because the system will not give you permission to do anything, including login. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=42466 n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView studio and Windows server 2008 Is RSView Studio 4, CPR7 supported with Microsoft operating system Windows Server 2008? ### Assistant: Just checked with the ME support folks ... they said it hasn't been tested. Which means it might work just fine and it might cause nuclear meltdown. :) JHutch Ok, thanks. I have a plan to test this setup. I will keep this open, if anyone have tested this setup. I will reply the result if it was a nuclear meltdown or a success:smileyvery-happy: If you tell us where you are, we can just look for the mushroom cloud ... ;) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Recipe tag set selection - is this possible? The situation is this; I have 2 robot cells that I could run the same HMI program on but I need each cell to save to a different set of tags in the same PLC. I set up my data in recipeplus and have it sending to a tag set for one cell and it is working beautifully. The question is; is there a way to set up a second set of tags in the same recipe that the second cell can send to without sending the data to the first cell's tags at the same time? If I have to I will just copy the program, rename the tags and make a seperated program for each HMI. I would like to have a way that both HMI units could act as a backup for the other cell in case one fails. I'll be glad to answer questions as this is a pretty complicated situation and I may not be being very clear. ### Assistant: I think the copy app and rename tags method is the only way you're going to get this work. JHutch Yeah, that's kinda what I thought but I figured I'd throw it out there and see if anyone else had a better idea. Thanks though, that is what I am gonna do. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview screen pops up when it's not supposed to I have a screen on a panelview that keeps popping up for no reason. It is tied to a screen activation button that I have hidden until certain conditions are met, then the operator has to press the (on screen) button to bring up my test screen. I have witnessed this screen popping up on it's own without the button being pressed. Panelview Plus 1000 Firmware Ver. 5.00.06.55 (CPR9)DH/RIO Module installed (working)Ethernet Module installed (working) Programmed using FactoryTalk View ME Suite and compiled as a ver. 5 *.mer ### Assistant: Check your Global Connections - if you have a tag in the Remote Display Number tag, then it is telling the PV+ to change screens. Thank you very much. When I converted this program from the old Panelview 1200 (using PanelBuilder) to a new Panelview Plus 1000 (using Factory Talk Suite) the conversion program didn't know what to do with the old RIO data so it converted it to psuedo-tags. It turns out that I missed one in exactly the place you told me to look. I think this is going to fix my problem but I'm going to wait a few days to make sure before I hit the solved button. Well after a couple of days trial, this solution did not work. Thanks for the info. I think I'm just gonna have to rebuild this whole application from scratch in FT Studio to get rid of some old weirdness carried over from PanelBuilder. It's not a very large app. so it won't be too much trouble. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 4 horizontal mounting Are there derating factors when mounting a Powerflex 4 horizontal ( sideways ) ? ### Assistant: David9, is it possible to provide forced air through the drive in the horizontal mounting configuration? Can you add a pancake fan to your enclosure directing air through the drive's cooling fins? We've done this for PLCs, & servo drives mounted horizontally to eliminate the need for derating. n"}
{"text": "### Human: need help with this legacy dp message in factory talk diagnostics :smileymad: (LegacyDP 0x01DE4B28) Timed out reading from block 0x0FD70E90 on device Ethernet.10.217.125.14. ### Assistant: Here a collection of technotes you may read to see if applicable to your issue: Aid 26466 - Aid 30645 - Aid 29956 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DH485 on RS232 What driver should I choose in RSLinx to communicate on RS232 with an slc 5/04 whose channel 0 settings are as under: Driver: DH485Baud Rate: 19200Node Adress: 1 ### Assistant: The correct driver is the one named 1747-PIC/AIC driver.... Unfortunately there are some limitations on the use of this driver with *new* PC an OS.... you may get some errors trying to configure it... :smileysad: A workaround could be to use a 1747-UIC, that is an USB to DH-485 converter. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Are there any problems using the 1747-UIC converter while runningSP3 ? Thanks, Kevin Win XP SP3 is not a tested operating system using the last available version of RSLinx Classic (v2.54), so you may find troubles to run the -UIC... :smileysad: Check Aid 42682 for the compatibility matrix for Software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data from Excel / Access to PLC As javaboy has mentioned, I to want to move data between a database spreadsheet and a CompactLogix processor. I do not have RSEmulator, so I am wondering if anyone else accomplished this task? ### Assistant: In the Knowledgebase there are many technotes reguarding DDE read and write macro for Excel. Use as keyword for search dde+ms+excel Here some of those technotes... Aid 20434 - Aid 31017 - Aid 5436 - Aid 24437 - Aid 22698 Also you may find some example DDE macros in RSLinx Classic online help. If you want to use OPC instead, take a look to Aid 8171 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel View Component Ethernet Connection I have been asked by a customer the maximum number of PVC 6 inch con be connected to a Ethernet network together; host PLC is ML1200. ### Assistant: I guess you want to connect your PVc to the Micrologix through a 1761-NET-ENI... :smileysurprised: So, the limit is not related to the number of devices you can connect over an Ethernet network, but is related to the -ENI limitations.As you can see in Aid 23057, every Panelview connected to it will consume 1 of the available Incoming connections (max 4 incoming)... be aware that also other devices connected to it will need one of those incoming connections, such as RSlinx... So, as an example, if you have ONLY the Panelviews connected to it over that Ethernet network, you may have a maximum of 4 Panelviews, and you have no *extra space* available for other connections. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Urgent. PanelView C600, Can I connect a FLASH drive to transfer data directley to it? Hi all, I want to use PanelView C600 for a plant application. I wish to connect onlyFLASH drive to it to transfer data after a fixed interval directley to FALSH drive. I am not allowed to connect a computer, so I need some solution to my problem.Please help out. ### Assistant: Aid 51936 gives some indications about what you may transfer to/from PVc and the appropriate methods.Also, useful infos are on Quick Start Manual - Appendix A Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Diagnostic Pushbuttons? I am looking at adding some 1794-IB16D modules to an ESD system, and read in the manual that in order for the diagnostic function to be in use, there must be a current draw across the input, even when the button is off. Does AB have any contacts or pushbuttons already made that I won't have to add a 10K Resister across in order for this function to work?Thanks in Advance, ### Assistant: For what I can remember or find in docs, there isn't such a solution from AB in Pushbuttons or contact.... - fuzzy logic Sooo, every end device I install, I will be required to parallel a 10K resister across. (Fuzzy, want to start a business building pushbuttons? I'd buy some!)You would have thought someone would have one out there. Hmmm.. ok, I will buy some pushbuttons from AB, mount the resistor on each of them, and then I can sell all of that to you, let say at double price... OK ? :smileyvery-happy: I think the difficulty to keep these items in a catalogue is due to the fact the resistors needed could be requested with different ohm values by different customers (due to the differances in the P/S voltage)...so economically there are not so big advantages to have those items... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I am all about spreading the wealth (with company money), so this could work out. Besides, if something doesn't work, then it's not my fault. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/800-wp005_-en-p.pdf A special version of the sealed switch known as a logic reed is used in logic circuits. Thelogic reed is characterized by very short contact bounce, typically less than0.5 milliseconds. Maybe this is what I am after, but they don't specify the leakage current.This whole project is just one big More trouble than it's worth Ok, let me know the quantity... :smileytongue: About the contact you have indicated... it seems to be just related to the fact those contacts are particularly designed to be used in logic circuit, as they have a very short bounce that avoid the needs to *filter* in time the reading of the input in order to *discard* disturbances. - fuzzy logic The reason for the dummy resistor is that the diagnostic portion (including the safety I/O) send out a micro-second pulse to determine the state of the device. If a N.O. pushbutton is used, then the diagnostic portion sees this as an open circuit whereas a sensor like a prox, has an internal impedence which the pulse can detect. Likewise the outputs usually go to some device that already has an internal impedence. Case in point....AB came out with their LED pilot lights a decade ago and we ended up adding 1.5k resistors across them to trigger the triac from a PLC-5 output card because their internal resistance was so high, the output wouldn't trigger. They've since fixed this issue BUT with the diagnostic inputs on normally open circuits, the resistor is needed...it's a pain...but it's needed. I have seen folks use the pushbutton in a normally closed configuration although I don't recommend it. Do you know of a company that makes these, or will they all need to be field installed? (I haven't verified with our Process Safety people if field modification of electrical equipment is allowed) I don't know of any companies making anything like these. The resistors will need to be added to each one. It's generally not a major issue since the pushbuttons have to be installed and wired anyway. Think of this like a burglar alarm system that needs an end-of-line resistor for input diagnosics to determine the integrity of the wiring and the device...same principle. As in a safety situation....the end device is usually a closed conditon for running equipment. Equipment stops upon open circuit be it a cut wire or e-stop switch pushed. Since it's closed then it's easy for the safety I/O to run diagnostics on the line. Since you're using a normally open pushbutton, then the resistor is there for the pulse diagnostic. Just a thought....you might be able to get away with it using a lighted pushbutton..... We are retrofitting the entire ESD system for this plant, and I wanted to utilize the capabilities of the diagnostic IO, (right now the system is totally hardwired) and was trying to see what was available. Normally the buttons will be closed contacts, but if one were pushed, I didn't want to see a fault come in on the module.(I guess I was in error with the terminology before, it would be a Nrmally Open, Held Closed contact on everything but the buttons, the buttons will be normally closed, push to open.) Thanks for the idea about the lighted buttons. If I can find one with the right load characteristics, it might be the ticket. (and work for testing purposes as well) n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1492 aifm16- f3 wiring with 1756 ai16 Hi All,How can I wire one wire transmitter, using with 1492 aifm16- f3 and 1756 ai16thanksVolkan ### Assistant: Take a look to the following screenshot; there is an example using the module as a Single-Ended current and 2 wire transmitter. References are taken from: 1756-IF16 Installation Instructions page 141492 Technical Data pages 163 and 174 If your transmitter and/or your 1492 cable are different, take a look to the above manuals to find out the correct pinout. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1768-M04SE KINETICS 6000 Has anyone ever heard of Kinetics 6000 losing its Home position which happens everyday ???? ### Assistant: Rodney, take a look to the following technotes, that may help to check the right configuration for your drive homing (KB notes are related to other motion sercos card... but it is the same principle also for your card) Aid 21590Aid 21828Aid 31045 Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Hi Rodney Can you describe the problem you are facing in more detail? What is your axis configuration? - Linear - Rotary There are several explanations for this including hardware and software setup. First of all, what type of encoder did you order with your motors? There is an S type encoder which is a single-turn absolute encoder. Most people only use this encoder to achieve the high resolution feedback that it provides. The M type encoder is the multi-turn absolute encoder. Most people use this to be able to permanently hold a home position in software unless there is a mechanical change in the motor shaft to coupling. As far as software goes, you have to correctly choose the type of MAH (Motion Axis Home) configuration that you want to use. There is an absolute homing configuration that will store the encoder counts from the M type encoder in the drive so that whenever power is lost to the system, when the unit powers back up it will remember its home position. n"}
{"text": "### Human: exception 12002 on client login attempt I managed to connect to project with 2 computers successfully but not with the third one. I get this error:The client cannot connect to the Factory Talk SE server in the home area: /my area name because the server is not available. To connect to client automatically when the server is available, leave this message open. To close the Factory Talk View SE Client window and connect later, click Cancel. I get error in diagnostics: exception 12002 is received and the internal GetHMIProject command may not be processed successfully Can somebody point me to the solution. Thanks ### Assistant: Did you try to connect to the server ONLY with this computer ? Same result ? Did you install IIS correctly before ViewSE server ? Also, try to repair the FactoryTalk View Site Edition installation using the Control Panel / Add/Remove Programs / select the software and click change and then repair There are also many technotes in the Knowledgebase reguarding the failed connection to HMI server... try to search using unable to connect to HMI as keyword Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: activation for clx v12.02 Not sure why but after installing ver 12 for an old project I am asked to activate it. I have v 10, 11, 13, 15 ,16 ,17. Any help would be appreciated. ### Assistant: Which activation mode are you using ? (EVmove or FactoryTalk Activation) You have written you install v12.02 is it correct ?V12 and V12.01 only support *old* activation method, V12.02 support both. Anyway check Aid 39470 to see if helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: panelview component file transfer When I do a file transfer I cannot browse to the files on my computer to transfer them to the component panelview. I select file transfer, new transfer,my computer then select the elipsis next to the box and cannot go anywhere from there. I have two others I know that have the same problem. Anybody had this before? ### Assistant: Just a question... which is the browser are you using ? which version ? Anyway, try to check Aid 54060 if applicable to your issue... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I haven't changed screen resolutions but this worked. Thanks!!!! I had a few hours invested in this. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControllogiX warm backup for local rack I was hoping to locate the code for the original Controllogix sales demo box with the part that does the 3-5 second warm backup on outputs. Thanks ### Assistant: Hi Ronald, Are you looking for the warm backup switching outputs application that was a precurser to the ControlLogix Redundancy System (hardware based with SRM modules)? If yes then I suggest you contact the ControlLogix hardware Tech Support group directly (you will need a valid TechConnect contract). This app was being maintained by the Commercial Engineering group but I am not sure if this is still the case. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Single PanelView Plus App on Multiple CNet I am using three PanelView Plus terminals with each one residing on seperate CNet networks. All three terminals use identical PVP applications but I am maintaining three seperate application files. Is there a way I can use only one application file for all three terminals? I think it comes down to the comm setup but I am not sure. Thanks,Art ### Assistant: Well, if the node numbers are all the same between the 3 different networks, yeah, one app would work. But if the node numbers are changing, you'd have to have 3 separate projects since the comms information is different. JHutch Is it possible to configure each terminals communications properties manually and not replace communications when downloading the MER file? Yes, you can use the Network and Communications settings accessible from the Configuration Mode - Terminal Settings of your Panelview Plus.User Manual chapter 4 starting from page 67 explains how this can be done manually.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ME Transfer Utility and remote support We support many customers using an A-B 9300-RADES modem. Although it is slow, we have had good luck transfering programs with RS Logix 5000. The ME transfer utility, however, produces CIP errors on the same connection. (Since the transfer is all-or-nothing it can often taking hours to get a valid transfer!). We often have a versa view PC on-site for Factory Talk Transaction manager that we connect to with VNC thorugh the modem. We would like to use RSlogix 5000 light to download to the processors, but is there any plans for a light transfer utility? The Knowledge base says the ME transfer utility requires the full install of FTView Studio, but does it require a licence to run the transfer utility or is there a light licence for just transfers? Thank you in advance! ### Assistant: If you can get all the way down to the VersaView, assuming this is your HMI station you're transferring to, then you can copy the .mer file down to it instead of using the transfer utility. We have found the transfer utility to be rather finicky depending on what you're transferring to. If the display is local (physically) we just use the compactflash but since you're over a network and using ME, then all you really need in the .mer file. Maybe I'm not fully understanding your installation, but for an ME application, this seems easiest. We are transfering to a hardpanel PanelView Plus HMI on the remote network. There isn't a lite license to be used with the Transfer Utility... :smileysad: Anyway, after you've installed FactoryTalk View Studio, you will be able to use the Transfer Utility also without activation (you may also run other Utilities accessible in Start-Programs-Rockwell Software-FactoryTalk View-Tools, like Application Manager for example) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for the information. I hope there are plans to make a stand-alone transfer tool in the future. As an OEM, it seems crazy to have to install a full development suite of software for customers and field techs that only need a file transfer utility... Well, the idea is that you would use the CompactFlash card to download in the instance where you aren't transferring the MER from the development computer. You have a slightly strange scenario where you want to transfer the file to a neutral 3rd computer and then download from there. JHutch Using the compact flash card requires intervention from someone local to the unit. We want to update the Panelview's MER remotely because we cannot rely on the technical abilities of the end users. The root cause of this is that the transfer utility gets CIP errors over a modem connection that RSlogix 5000 has no isues with. n"}
{"text": "### Human: READ DATA FROM RSLOGIX 5000 HI FELLOWSI WANT TO READ DATA FROM PLC. THE VERSION OF RS LOGIX 5000 IS 13.I READ THE DATA AND INSERTED PERTICULAR CELL OF THE EXCELL WORK BOOK BY USING EMULATOR AND RS TEST STAND LITE SUCESSFULLY. THE CODE IS AS UNDER Dim OPCServer1 As OPCServer 'Create references to OPC Server Dim WithEvents OPCGroup1 As OPCGroup 'and Group objectsPrivate Sub CMDDIS_Click() On Error Resume Next Set OPCGroup1 = Nothing 'Remove Group OPCServer1.Disconnect 'Disconnect from server Set OPCServer1 = Nothing End Sub Private Sub CMDREAD_Click() If OPCServer1 Is Nothing Then 'When OPC server doesn't exist ... Set OPCServer1 = New OPCServer 'Create instance of OPC Server OPCServer1.Connect RSLinx OPC Server 'Connect to an OPC Server Set OPCGroup1 = OPCServer1.OPCGroups.Add(MyOPCData) 'Create an OPC group in the OPC Server OPCGroup1.OPCItems.AddItem [Test_Star_Delta]HMI_ANALOG[0], 1 'Add an Item to OPC Group & assign ClientHandle ' OPCGroup1.OPCItems.AddItem [Topic]Item, ClientHandle OPCGroup1.IsSubscribed = True 'Receive data whenever it changes End If End Sub Private Sub OPCGroup1_DataChange(ByVal TransactionID As Long, ByVal NumItems As Long, ClientHandles() As Long, ItemValues() As Variant, Qualities() As Long, TimeStamps() As Date) [A1] = ItemValues(1) 'Assign data value to spreadsheet cell ' For x = 1 To NumItems 'Another method for handling more than one item ' Select Case ClientHandles(x) 'based on the ClientHandle assigned in AddItem method ' Case 1 ' ' [A1] = ItemValues(x) '-Do this when ClientHandle = 1 ' Case 2 ' ' '-Do this when ClientHandle = 2 ' Case 3 ' ' '-Do this when ClientHandle = 3 ' End Select ' ' Next x 'End Sub I READ ONLY ONE ELEMENT FROM IT.NOW I WANT TO READ DATA FROM OUR SYSTEM THAT IS CONTROLLER IS 5561 AND RS LOGIX 5000 VERSION 13. THE NUMBER OF READ DATA IS 40 ITEMSPLEASE HELP ME HOW CAN I READ?THANKS ### Assistant: Following a link to a similar thread: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&message.id=992#M992 - fuzzy logic Your code has only one handler for elements... the case statement only processes when the ClientHandle = 1. I would suggest declaring an array of data type OPCDataItem, and loading the incoming data directly into this array. From there, you can process at your convenience. Below: an example in VB: 'container for incoming OPC data Items Public Type OPCDataItem ItemID As Long lValue As Variant End Type Private Sub ReadPLCFloats_DataChange(ByVal TransactionID As Long, ByVal NumItems As Long, ClientHandles() As Long, ItemValues() As Variant, Qualities() As Long, TimeStamps() As Date) Dim i As Long Dim LTemp As Long Dim strQuality As String Dim Incoming() As OPCDataItem Dim Dset As InfoSet On Error Resume Next ReDim Incoming(1 To NumItems) For i = 1 To NumItems Incoming(i).ItemID = ClientHandles(i) Incoming(i).lValue = ItemValues(i) Next i If bShuttingDown = True Then Exit Sub End If 'Update Quality field strQuality = GetQualityString(Qualities(1)) If strQuality <> Good Then 'show the quality error in the event list strQuality = OPC Transaction Suspect... Reporting data Quality As:  & strQuality Dset.CallType = Caution Dset.Msg = strQuality AddEventToList Dset End If For i = 1 To NumItems LTemp = (Incoming(i).ItemID - 1) frmOPC_IN.txtInFloat(LTemp) = Format(Incoming(i).lValue, 0.000) Next iEnd Sub Also... it would appear from your code that you are only adding one item... not 40: I use a for next loop to add then appropriate number of items to the group: 'add the float read item For n = 0 To (nReadFloatCt - 1) 'define each item lIndex = 1 arItemIDs(lIndex) = [WMS]WMS_OUT_FLOATS[ & n & ] ' Redim arrays to actual number of items being added ReDim Preserve arItemIDs(1 To n + 1) ReDim Preserve arClientHandles(1 To n + 1) arClientHandles(lIndex) = n + 1 'add the item ReadPLCFloats.OPCItems.AddItems lIndex, arItemIDs, arClientHandles, arServerHandles, arErrors ' Check for errors For i = LBound(arErrors) To UBound(arErrors) If arErrors(i) <> 0 Then BuildPLCReadFloatList = GetPLCErrorString(arErrors(i)) Exit Function End If Next i Next n n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Exchange between control logix processors on same network I need a way to exchange tag data between processors... for example, there is a sensor in the IO of processor A, and I need to know the state of the sensor in processor B. I do not want to use the producer/consumer model, as I can't take these processors off line. Please advise. thanx... jpp ### Assistant: A simple MSG instruction will do the trick for now until you can setup a produce/consume relationship later. You could also add the card to the I/O tree of processor B as a listen-only connection. This will automatically update processor B with all the inputs of that module with no extra work on your part. What network do you have between the processors? Ethernet, Controlnet, etc? n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 505 help RSlogic 500 help Hi guys just wondering if someone can help me out? I am trying to put a offset in some of my analog devices. The inputs are 4-20ma presure transmitters measuring water levels. I need to know how i can put a offset in so it will read the proper water level? Thanks. One measurement for example is reading 270.1 feet but the actualy level is 273.5 feet. How do i make this read correctly? thanks ### Assistant: You can use an ADD function to add the offset to the current analog value, and then consume the corrected value instead of the module's posted value. This assumes that the offset is a constant. Making it read correctly from the outset is a matter of scaling the transmitter. If this is not an option, then check out the SCL function. This allows scaling and offset to be applied to the incoming data. enjoy... jpp Hydroman, Consider using the SCP instruction. This let you scale your inputs using the equation y = mb + b. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to configure the I/O size of a 1794-asb From Logix 5000 13.04 I am trying to use a 1794-IB32 and 1794-OB32. Going from 1756-DHRIO to 1794-ASB. I cant seem to figure what I need to do to get the word counts changed to be able to read the all the inputs from the IB32 ### Assistant: At first check to have a 1794-ASB that supports these I/O module (series E or later).Then you have to check the dip-switches settings of your -ASB, it should be configured to use the Standard-32 mode, so that you have 2 words In + 2 words out available on every Flex physical slot.Take a look to Aid 20492 and the attachments that technote contains. Then check in your software to configure the correct I/O image under your DHRIO module, RIO channel. Insert your 1794-ASB under the 1756-DHRIO module, and configure the correct Rack # and Starting Group (the same as you configure using the dip-switches over the -ASB) and be sure to select the correct image size, considering every physical slot uses 2 words (I mean if you have 4 modules you will use the entire logical rack). So, for example, if you have a Flex adapter with an -IB32 module and an -OB32 module, this adapter should be configured as 1/2 logical rack, -IB32 uses input word 0 and 1, -OB32 uses output word 2 and 3... Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Re: RIO Network Protocol Hello people.... I am new in the forum... so Now I am working with an PV PLUS RIO APPLICATION.... I had this aplicattion working ina PV standard then I migrate this project to panel view standard and now I need to add some tags to view some information actually i am traying to display string information but i cant create the new tag... Does any body nows how to do that? thanks. ### Assistant: You wrote you can’t create a new tag…. Did you find troubles to open tag browser / tags database ? Did you get errors? In a generic way I can say you may take a look to this LINK , there are some useful videos with procedures and examples about tags creation and use. Navigate to FactoryTalk View Machine Edition Quick Start Videos – My First Project – Create a new Graphic Display and…. Otherwise, please add some informations about the difficulties you have…. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Re: 2711cT6M hi, i need examples ladder program for controllogix to inview 22r. may you help me? ### Assistant: There are some examples to use Inview with ControlLogix in Aid 40774 and Aid 20085; also there are useful Add-On instructions in Sample Code website. In the Search page, use “inview” as keyword in the description field. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: McAfee Security Corrupted My RSLogix 5000 Activation I installed McAfee Security onto a laptop computer with RSLogix 5000. I now get the 'Product Activation Failed' screen with the message 'The following activations were not successfully checked out: RS5K_000.exe. When I try to view my activation it does not show on the 'Current Activations' (even after refreshing). However, it was loaded in the 'Rehost Activations'. I Rehosted the activation and then activated it again. Now I do not have any activations in my system. ### Assistant: Which is the actual situation? Do you still see the activation file in rehost tab ? Did you try to search for the *.lic file inside the path shown on the Setting tab ? Or inside your “entire” PC…if you have successfully ended the rehosting process it should be in your PC…Which is the Host ID you have specified during the rehost?And last but not least… which is the Operating System you have on this PC ? Sorry for the series of questions, but some infos are needed to try to help you…. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic The actual situation: There is no indication the activation ever occurred. There are no product activations in the 'Current Activations' tab or the 'Rehost Activations' tab. When I view the information for the download on the activation web site, I see the download occurred but somehow did not make it to my PC. No activations located in the rehost tab. There are no *.lic file in the activation path/folder. I found one license file for RSNetWork but none for RSLogix 5000. The Host ID I used was the default Ethernet card. The OS is MSW XP pro. SP3. The Logix 5000 program was working fine until I loaded McAfee (4.x) on the machine. Is the an issue with this virus protection program and RSLogix 5000? Ok, thanks for the infos.... :smileywink: Well, I think here the rehosting process has not been completed correctly, the file is not on your pc, so i think now the only way to get it is to call in the Technical Support... giving them your Serial number and Product Key, they will be able to help you to reactivate your software. This is the first step to do, then, when the activation is in the correct place in your PC, should appear at least in the rehost tab; after that it would be possible to check other things that may prevent your activation to work, for example the firewall settings if McAfee contains it... (Aid 35092). Also, I suggest to assign your Disk serial number has Host ID, sometimes power management features, network card integration, and other settings make the network card unavailable. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Move from Siemens to Rockwell Hello, We have a number of old Rockwell/A-B systems and a recently aborted moveto a Siemens system. We are looking to move onto the latest version of RSview32and either change our three Siemens systems to Rockwell. My question is do we have to 'throw away' our investment in Siemens equipmentor can we incorporate this equipment into our old, but functioning, RSview32system an upgrade to the latest RSview32 version? Any advise or help would be much appreciated. Thanks Tony ### Assistant: You may buy KEPServer Enterprise from Rockwell Automation. KEPServer Enterprise provides serial and Ethernet OPC servers that allow communication between many third-party industrial devices and RSView32, FactoryTalk View Site Edition, and FactoryTalk View Machine Edition. All drivers are supported by Rockwell Software. Ordering cat. number is 9301-OPCSRVENE. Supported drivers for Siemens as following: Siemens S5 Siemens S5 (3964R) Siemens S7 MPI Siemens S7-200 Siemens TCP/IP Ethernet Simatic 505 Simatic 505 Ethernet Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: GV3000 Drives (100HP) Fans running logic When do the lower Fans run in GV3000 100HP Drive? ### Assistant: As far as I know, all the time (any time power is applied to the drive) n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1789 sim io module I am new to Rockwell.I have installed RSLogix 5000 professional ver 17.00, and I am using RSLogix Emulate 5000.I can select the Emulator controller but I do not see the 1789 sim io module.How do I install it? ### Assistant: I have just read that I should be using the 1756 module.I have done this but the online logic is not responding the the io changes I make in the emulator.In rslogix 5000, the module properties for the 1756 module say that there is a module identity mismatch. Take a look to the following technotes, to be sure to have it correctly configured... Aid 26484 - Aid 46617 - Aid 29489 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic In RSLogix 5000 when creating the project put the generic 1756-MODULE into the desired slot. Label it as desired. You may set the Comm Format to attempt to match the type of module you are simulating. However the module is only 32 bits and does not have analog input so anything other than DINT is not practical. You can get REAL data out of it, but not the full range and you can not select the value desired. This mode is not useful. Also the module does not report a useful status so do not select a Comm Format that includes status. Under the column titled “Assembly Instance” enter the values of ; 1 under Input, 2 under Output, and 16 in the Configuration box. Under the column titled “Size” you may leave it the way it is (that wastes some memory) or change it to the minimum values of ; 2 for Input, 1 for Output, and Configuration stays at 0. On the next screen, after you click ‘Next’ you have to change the Requested Packet Interval (RPI) value to at least 50. In the chassis you would install a 1789-SIM module to match up with the 1756-Module from above. You can read all this in Tech ID 29489 Hope this helps... n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-L34 lost program Hi, I have more than 40 FlexLogix PLC. Today morning I found 20 without program. Power supply was good and also batteries. Some batteries was changed not more then one month ago. What can cause this? Firmware: 16.20Device: 1794-L34 FlexLogix 5434 Controller Thanks. ### Assistant: Did you check Aid 45709 ? There is a Service Advisory for this controllers and the firmware you're using.... :smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I hope you will read this :smileytongue: Thanks for link to KB, I have to upgrade fw in FLX asap.... M. PROBLEM WITH UPGRADE Met somebody with this type of error? I was connected with serial cable - DF1 port. Second problem, I can not return to previous fw 13.33, because of the same result Thanks. another fault... thanks. Window with text:AB_ASA.DLLFailed to communicated to the target device.An unknown communication error code was received from the target device. Hi, check to be with the processor Key in Remote Program mode, before start the upgrade.... Also, start the ControlFlash utility from Start, Programs. Do not start ControlFlash from RSLogix software. If using a dual core PC, disable the dual core functionality for ControlFlash. To do this, start the ControlFLASH program. Go to the Windows Task Manager, and go to the 'Processes' Tab. Right-click on the 'ControlFLASH.exe' in the column Image Name, and select 'Set Affinity'. De-select CPUs until only one CPU is selected, then click 'OK'. Return to the ControlFLASH program and begin the firmware flash to the controller. If this step is performed initially in ControlFLASH 6.00.03 before a failed download has occurred, then ControlFLASH 6.00.03 can be used to update the firmware on the controller. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Everything was as you wrote.... :smileysad: We use DELL Latitude D600 and D610 laptops with centrino CPUs. I didnt find 'Set Affinity' in task manager. We tried both ways of start CF Utility. I have two log files from upgrade, I will send it to RA support and wait.... Hmmm.... just a question...which version of RSLinx are you using?Being sure to use the last one would be better. Also, when you select the processor via DF1, be sure to not expand the processor.Open the DF1 driver, expand it so that you can see the processor and click over it. Do NOT expand on the processor. - fuzzy logic It could be a problem with ControlFlash. You can try to remove it and install it again. Or maybe the controller is totally stuck. If the firmware is corrupted you can't do anything at all. Fuzzy,this I know... Problem is solved. Very simple. I use 1788-CNC card to connet Flex to controlnet. Direct connection between PCMCIA Cnet card and 1788-CNC didnt work. So I connect FLX to the Cnet network (with 1756-CNB).After this I was able to see it in Linx (btw, ver 2.54 Prof) and use ControlFlash for upgrade.This steps was recommended from RA Support.But when is possibility connect only through DF1, for this I dont have answer. M. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF40 DNET mapping I am using 1756-DNB and have done advanced mapping to seperate out the 16 bit words. My output word 0 logic command works great, word 1 for my speed refernce does not. The values I type in are not like that of the 22-comm-E where 300 =30hz. What I'm I missing? Thanks ### Assistant: Check if you have mapped your drive like the example in the screenshot... Otherwise, post how you want to map it to get more help... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communication between Powermonitor II 1403 NENET & Contrologix PLC Hi , Is anybody there to help me out regarding to the communication between 1403-NENET & Controllogix PLC. I want to know if we can do the messaging between them if yes what are the setting for that...... Can we use CIP for this? ThanksKamal ### Assistant: What I have been able to find I would say no they cannot communicate over Ethernet, Knowledge base document 26982 states that the NENET only supports CSP protocol and not CIP. Also on the description in the catalog it only lists PLC-5 & SLC-500 processors. Moving to the PowerMonitor 3000 would solve this if it meets the monitoring spec's that you require. Linkified for convenience - JHutch Any idea if a CLX and PMII would talk over DeviceNet? Knowledgebase document 54797 states: Can a ControlLogix Processor Communicate to a 1403 Powermonitor II? Over Ethernet? No. ControlLogix supports CIP protocol and the PMII supports only CSP protocol. Over ControlNet? No. The PMII does not support ControlNet Over DeviceNet? Yes. A 1403-NDNET DeviceNet Communications card is required. Note that the 1403-NDNET is no longer being manufactured. Over Remote I/O? Yes. A 1403-NSC Communications Card is required. Over Serial? Yes. A 1403-NSC Communications Card is required. A possible work-around would be to have an SLC or PLC5 processor communicating to the PMII, send message to the ContolLogix processor over DH+/ethernet. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rslinx OEM Can't set up a driver with PKTX card I am trying to set up a driver for a PKTX card in rslinx. When I set up the driver the channel and ID option in the setup shows nothing. Called tech support they say to put card in a different slot. I haven't tried this yet because the machine is running on the floor. Does anyone have any other suggestions? ### Assistant: Did you try (if applicable to your situation) to disable RSLinx Enterprise? Aid 50720 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Haven't tried this but will. Thanks, Figured out the problem here! The computer that had the PKTX card in it was using a third party software called INGEAR. The ingear software was enabled and causing the problem. I shutdown the INGEAR software driver re-booted the computer and was able to set up the driver. n"}
{"text": "### Human: E44 on Ultra3000i Hi everyone. I am having troubles with a ultra which used to run an eventually displays the error code 44. On the manual said that for this error I must refer to Rockwell, I have change the drive and once again the failure appears. I will value the help ### Assistant: Lost Motion Fault. Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 50190 - Aid 36895 - Aid 36307 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 100 IPM Thermal Protect Fault not resetting We have several 1398-DDM-019 Ultra 1000 dirves that all simultaniously faulted with IPM Thermal Protect Fault. We cannot reset or clear these faults, even with drives disabled, have re-downloaded configuration via UltraMaster, still faults right away. Is this a blown IPM module? Should I just replace the drives? ### Assistant: It could be related to AC line noise…. Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 20974 – Aid 21657 (this is referred to Ultra3000, but is the same for Ultra100) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Can anybody tell what kind of issues to expect when using Windows XPService Pack 3, and Rockwell Products RSLogix 5 7.30.10.2 & RSLinx 2.54 All I can find on the tech pages is it is not supported but it does not say anything about what problems can be expected. Any info would be appreciated.. ### Assistant: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! *** Seriously, I couldn't find much in the way of specific known defects. It hasn't been extensively tested, but Technical Support reports that SP3 causes things to blow up and the only fix is to revert back to SP2 (and this is on a LOT of products, not just RSLogix 5) JHutch PS Free virtual cookie to the first one to name the movie quote above! :) Ghost Busters....:smileytongue: I'm waiting for the cookie.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic I have experienced a problem with service pack 3, I tried to establish communication with a plc-5/15 using a 1784-pmck card, I went to device manager and the device wasn't recognized. I spoke with tech connect and they suggested I use service pack 2 and that worked fine. Here you go! Now I'm jealous :smileyindifferent: Ha Ha :smileyvery-happy: Many thanks for the cookie ! Very nice ! Jamy, if you want I may keep half cookie for you.... :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Yeah, gimme a half cookie! :smileyvery-happy:That would be nice of you, fuzzy logic :smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF40 protection device I have an existing Sq. D bucket with breaker that I want to feed a new PF40 drive. Is there anyway to use the existing breaker, if sized correctly? Or will my best option be to feed a J class fuseholder from the existing breaker? Thanks in Advance. Rick Miell ### Assistant: The PF40 can be installed with either input fuses or an input circuit breaker. Refer to User Manual pages 1-8 and 1-9 and Appendix A for details. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic If your drive is located in another panel, then using Class CC or Class J fuses will increase your SCCR rating of the panel even if your overall feeder is a breaker. If the panel contains other components, then using these additional fuses will increase the SCCR of the leg that feeds the drive. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Multiple RSView32 projects open on pc Does anyone know if there is a way to have more than one RSView32 project open with Works at the same time? ### Assistant: It is not possible, you may not open a project if another one is already open, and also there isn't the possibility to launch a second instance of RSView32 Works... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic That's what I have been used to but I was crossing my fingers & hoping someone somewhere had found a work around to allow multiple copies to be opened. It sucks when you need see in one program but work in another. Thanks anyway for the response. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 40p - AtPos bit Does anyone know, when the pf40p:I.CommFreqCnt_or_AtPos is exactly set or reset, when working in positioning mode?This is because of timing issues. We issue a new start command, but it takes time that the 'old' AtPos bit is reset. What is the best programming practice to overcome this? At this moment we use messaging to read the actual position out of the drive and compare it with the setpoint to be sure it is at position, but this costs expensive time... ### Assistant: Parameter P225 sets the number of encoder pulses tolerance for the AtPos bit. One Practice that I use is using the AtPos bit to stop the drive. Then I interrupt that stop signal with the next start signal. When the AtPos tolerance is set tight this seems to work well for me. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Log File Copy in PanelView Plus or VersaView Can I copy Alarm log file(Event or Data Log File) from PanelView Plus or VersaView via USB port and inspect it on other computer ? ### Assistant: Yes, this is possible... all the informations you need and the utility to accomplish the copy in Aid 35513 and Aid 33924 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: rsview32 V7.20.00 toolkit activation My client uses RSView32 Version 7.20.00, which requires the old method of software keys. The latest round of licenses uses FactoryTalk activation, which is not compatible with RSView32 Version 7.20.00. As a matter of fact, our current license for 2009 can't even run 7.20.00 at all, so I have to use an old license from last year and keep my date set to 2008. Q. Will the legacy Keys fix this problem? ### Assistant: Disk Based EVRSI licensing is no longer offered as standard with the toolkit activation however to support legacy software it is possible to order an EVRSI license by using the Legacy Activation Request form. (Aid 57917) Anyway, if you call in Technical Support, they will give you all the infos to get a new disk based activation for your software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Missing 1756-DHRIO/E module from RSLogix5000 I/O module list Using RSLogix 16, Linx v2.51. I see the module in Linx just fine, but I cannot add it in my rack configuration. I have the latest eds file. ### Assistant: It is not a matter of EDS....the profile for this module is not inside RSLogix5000. Try to use series D profile from I/O configuration and Disable Electronic Keying. Anyway, if you utilize it with both channel configured as DH+, you don't need to add it to I/O tree... - fuzzy logic Just to complete the information, there are now a couple of technotes that explain this issue and the required settings and procedures. Aid 59656 - Aid 57332 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data file type A and type ST I try to know what is this to kind of Data file A (A18) and ST (ST38) of SLC 500, I can´t found mucho infomation about it if you have a information and who´s the similiar data file on Micrologix 1200 for this kind of data file,I´ll be so gratefull. Thank for your time. ### Assistant: I will try to explain it.A stands for ASCII and ST for String. Basically, the Data file A contains elements that represent one character.So A18:1 will be a character, A18:2 will be a character, etc. Data file ST contains a string, so a text up to 82 characters.So in ST38:0 you can have text up to 82 characters, in ST38:1 you can have text up to 82 characters, etc. That's why Data file ST has a lenght field (LEN) defined which will tell how many characters that are used. Hope you understand the difference... ps: MicroLogix 1200 supports the ST data file, but not the ASCII. Jamy, let me partially correct your description.... :smileywink: Jamy wrote: Basically, the Data file A contains elements that represent one character.So A18:1 will be a character, A18:2 will be a character, etc. ASCII data file (A) elements will contain up to two characters, as you can see in the following screenshot.... I apologize Jamy, this is not really to teach you... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Don't worry fuzzy, correct is correct.It has been too long since I worked with ASCII. I prefer strings :smileyvery-happy: Just to beat up on Jamy some more ;-) A ST (string) member consists of two parts: an array of 82 characters plus an integer length which tells the number of characters currently in the string (0 to 82). You can access the individual characters like ST38:1.DATA[0] for the first character ST38:1.DATA[1] for the second character etc.and the length as ST38:1.LEN (number of characters) Strings are NOT necessarily null (0x00) terminated, although most HMI packages will treat them that way. String members always take up 82+2 bytes of memory, no matter how much of the string you use. ASCII files are 16-bit words containing 2 ASCII characters per word, high-byte then low-byte, as shown in Fuzzy's example above. The high-byte-first arrangement can be a pain for some software. For ControlLogix et al (RSLx5000) you can make your own STRING data types of different (max) sizes, so you can have strings with 8 characters plus length (4-byte DINT in CLx), 132 characters plus length, whatever, to help use memory a tad more effectively. The 82 characters harkens back to the dot-matrix printer days, when you usually had 80 characters across plus CR/LF. For you spoiled youngsters who never saw one. ;-) When you use ASCII files (or SINT arrays in CLx) and want to display them in FTView, there's a parameter you need -- and I can never remember what it is! Something like -sc32 if you have a 32-character field in your array. There's no .LEN member, so you have to tell FTView how many characters you want to display. Fuzzy, I'm sure you have the correct syntax handy. Remember, the COP instruction uses the size of the target as the increment of stuff to copy. So if you copy from an A file to an ST file, a count of 1 means 1 string -- 84 bytes. You can put garbage in a string real quick! Copying from ST to A, a count of 1 means one 16-bit word (2 characters). I forget whether you need to byte swap before or after the COP.... try it once and you'll know for sure. Hope this helps! Man, I should write a book...... Nah, I'd bore y'all to tears!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: pid i am using rslogix 5000 ver 16.03. I want to contorl the control valve which controls the flow of water. can you please give me some idea about the problem in overshooting and undershooting of control value. here i am using auto and manual button for pid also. can you give me with example of pid with its control using auto /manaul. here i am facing one problem that once the pid in auto and then i click on manaul then in setpoint option the pv value comes over there. so for what action to be taken ......and why this thing happendd?? rahul ### Assistant: hi ...any solution and any examples .....to solve the overshoot and under shoot what action to be take..... Bless,Not totally sure of what you're asking but the PID instruction (or PIDE in function block) is basically a simple loop controller. Typically the PV value when going from AUTO to MANUAL is usually for a bumpless transfer so that your loop doesn't have a massive change. These inputs are toggle inputs in that all you need to do is pulse them to AUTO or MAN. Using the PIDE function block, you can create an AutoTune tag that that will allow you to put the controller in manual, selecte autotune, and then let it fill in the proportional, integral, and derivative values. This can get you close and once you put it back into auto, you can tweak it as necessary. In the knowledgebase, do a search for PIDE as there are several docs that show how it works....which most of it also relates to the standard PID instruction. First the part about the SP jumping to the PV value. (I think that is what you are describing...) I believe the PID and PIDE both have an option (selectable ON or OFF) for PV Tracking. When PV tracking is enabled:* When the loop is in Manual, the PV is copied to the SP* When the loop is in Auto, the SP freezes and then can be entered if you need to change it. When PV tracking is disabled:* The SP is left wherever you set it, both in auto and in manual. (In Cascade, the SP comes from the cascade setpoint input -- definition of cascade mode.) Look in the Instruction Set help or documentation for the PID or PIDE (whichever you are using) to see what parameter turns PV tracking on and off. PV tracking was popular in the old single-loop pneumatic controller days. The operator would manually adjust to CV to get the process running right, then switch to auto to keep it there (at that SP, which was the PV when it was running right). Get it? As for the overshoot, there are textbooks and research papers dedicated to this. ISA (www.isa.org) has a number of books on the topic, from pocket-sized guides to full textbooks, and letter-size books with more practical and less academic content which might be most helpful to you. A number of software tools are also available, from Rockwell Automation and from its 3rd-party partners (e.g., ControlSoft). Plus there are site services available to assist you. Have your sales dude/dudette put you in touch with a process Technical Consultant if need be.... As for a simple method: * Set the proportional gain low (say, 0.1 or 0.01), so the loop is not oscillating.* Set the integral gain to nearly, but not, zero (say, 0.001) (or set the integral TIME very high).* Bump the SP, watch the PV response.* Double the proportional gain, bump again, repeat until the response starts to become oscillatory.* Increase the proportional gain slowly, bumping the SP each time, until the response oscillates almost steadily without increasing.* Measure the time between rising peaks of the PV (cycle time).* Cut the proportional gain in half.(Here's where I forget how to calculate the integral gain based on the cycle time. D'ohh! I think you take the cycle time in seconds, invert it and use that for the integral gain...)* Anyway, start increasing the integral gain to get the response you want. If it's too high, the PV will overshoot and oscillate. If it's too low, the PV will creep too slowly to setpoint. You want to get there about as fast as the process will allow without overshoot. For the moment, don't set derivative gain to anything but 0.0. Do some reading on derivative -- you want to use it on large capacity processes like temperature -- almost never for fast stuff like liquid flow where proprotional-only would almost suffice. Good luck, happy tuning! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Regarding Spring Clamp Type TB What's the difference between Cage Spring Clamp Type and Spring Clamp Type ? The customer's request is using Cage Spring Clamp Type TB and I will use Rockwell's Spring Clamp Type TB..... ### Assistant: Cage spring is just a type of spring TB... :smileytongue: maybe the two are the same, it depends from the catalogue number of the TB you usually use... At this LINK you may find many types of Spring Clamps... if you see,1492 series TB use the cage spring clamp type.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Generating trigger values in logix 500 for local msgs. in PV+ What I was trying to do was generate a trigger value in my code for a local message a PV+. I am new to all of this and using mostly my imagination. My thoughts were to use the bit operator which would be a 0 or 1 and sum it with a constant to generate this value. I now understand what logix was telling me. specify to word level not bit level. With a little research I realized that a multistate indicator would accomplish what I needed using 2 states. I'm still interested to know if there's a better way which I'm sure there is to generate a number value for a trigger for a PV+ function. ### Assistant: Please post a screenshot of the operation you want to realize or describe it better…:smileywink: Anyway, you can do math using a B3 word (i.e B3:1) …. obviously NOT a B3 bit (i.e B3:1/5) :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 emulation Is it possible to use a PC serial port for data input/output when using serial commands with Emulate5000 ? ### Assistant: Yes, you may configure the serial port to use when creating a controller… Aid 37086 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS Logix 500 Starter 7.30 reports micrologix 1100 as series A processor when it is a series B Will Logix 500 Starter reporting a series 'B' 1100 as a series 'A' processor cause any issues? I create a file for a series B, locate a series B, but Logix changes the processor type to series A. ### Assistant: Where do you find it changed ? Try to check the Staus file (online) as indicated in the following screenshot... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView ME Vertical String Display Is it possible to display a string vertically. I want to display a system time stamp vertically below eachdata point on a bargraph (there is not enough room horiz.) ### Assistant: Not so easy to obtain :smileysad:... only workaround I've found is to *play* with the Width of the String Display object, trying to display all the characters vertically... see the screenshot below... if you enlarge your display object, the string appears horizzontally... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Ya, I tried that, it makes the time/date look wierd. I didn't think there was a way. I'll find a way to work around it.. Thanks for verifying. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 I was wondering if anyone knew a way to make a latch in RSView, similar to the functionality of a latch in Logix. I basically want to set a bit whenever a device bit goes high and then clear it when another device bit goes high. Sorry if this is a redundant question, but I tried posting a question about this yesterday but it appears my question got deleted. Thank you for any help. ### Assistant: nitnoid, just a note reguarding your previous question you cannot see anymore.... Here a note, previously written by moderator: There are some boards that require you to have a support contract with Rockwell to see them. If you already have a TechConnect support contract, you can put your authorization number directly into your profile and the boards will become immediately available. See this post in the Welcome section for more information. Basically, you cannot see the Board where your message has been moved in due to the fact you don't have a Support Contract number or you've not put it inside your account profile. See the following technote for more information:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=50871 - fuzzy logic Even though nitroid may not be able to see this. one solution is to use an event to set a memory tag eg. make an event file, in the action field write Set {mytag} 1, in the conditions field write if {myDeviceTag1} = 1 then 1 else 0 <- using an 'if' is more flexible than simply writing {myDeviceTag1} since you have more options for what represents a 'true' state. similarly, enter a new line in the event file with an action of Set {mytag} 0 and a condition of if {myDeviceTag2} = 1 then 1 else 0 Cheers :smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: DH485 to RS232PV Passthrough Is it possible to download a PV32 project from a PC connected via a 1747UIC on DH485 to Channel 1 on a 5/03 thru Channel 0 to the RS232 Panelview ? ### Assistant: Nope. The SLC 5/03 is the limitation here. It can't properly route the comms between channel 0 and channel 1. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Appstart get focus I am using the Appstart command to start Internet Explorer. The trouble is that it starts in the background. Is there a way to have it start in the foreground. (get focus)? Thanks ### Assistant: Yes, this is possible.... :smileyhappy: Take a look to Aid 9041 and also to the other technotes indicated in it, to get help to configure this functionality.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML1400 ethernet comm I'm planning a project using a Micrologix 1400. Is it possible to communicate using the ethernet to other (non Allen Bradley) systems. I have a toledo scale and a Control Tecniques drive that I would like to control and/or get info from this way. They both are ethernet capable. If so, how would I set this up, I would think CIP messaging. I need some help before I order I/O. If not, I'll have to go with analog I/O. ### Assistant: At first is important to remember here that Mx1100/1400 don't support the I/O control over Ethernet/IP. So, the only way you may try to connect to your devices is through messages. If your devices support Ethernet/IP, then CIP messages give you that possibility, just be aware of the complexity of this control... :smileysurprised: I mean you have at first to know the exactly objects you have to point out (Class Instance Attribute) and you have to manage from scratch all these communications. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy, I was going to look at a weight once every few seconds, then average that for a few minutes and make minor changes to some drive speeds. The idea is to affect the weight per foot of some extruded raw rubber so the operator doesn't have to make continuous changes during operation. I can do this analog but would like to try and do this over the Ethernet thru messaging. mg Which model of weigh scale, exactly, are you using ? The Mettler-Toledo JagXtreme has an EtherNet/IP option that might do the job. I have had very bad experiences with the Control Techniques Unidrive SP's EtherNet/IP implementation, but most were due to noise, and I don't think CT bothered to get the interface tested and certified by the ODVA, though my information is a couple of years old. The drive's implementation is the principal issue. If it can only accept I/O connections, you can't use a MicroLogix 1400 to command it. If it will accept CIP Data Table Reads (ControlLogix tags), PCCC over EtherNet/IP (SLC/PLC Addresses), or CIP native object reads and writes (like the Assembly Object or the Parameter Object) then you might be able to implement this. I'll make the note here that a PowerFlex drive will accept both PCCC over EtherNet/IP and CIP Native object reads/writes from the MicroLogix and SLC family controllers over Ethernet messaging. There is a feature Socket Interface Using CIP Generic Messaging in ML1400. You can refer to 1766-rm001_-en-p.pdf for it. You can send raw data over TCP or UDP using this feature. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 70 Parameter 53 PowerFlex 70 Drive, parameter 53 resets to 3 instead of default 0. Could not find anything in the logic to tell the drive to reset to 3. Has anyone had a similar problem and figured out a solution. Tried the live chat, but nobody's home in the drive department. ### Assistant: Hmmm... did you already try to Reset the drive to default (P. 197) ? Other useful infos: PF is a Standard or EC version ?Firmware version?Is it connected to a PLC via network card ? Which ?Did you Load parameters from previously saved User Set ? - fuzzy logic No, I have not. This problem is for a customer and I have not had a chance to address it in the field yet. I will have to retrieve their settings and try that. Thank you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data collection from Panelview plus 1000 I have a SLC 5/04 connected to a Panelview Plus 1000 throw a DH+ connection. I want to know if it is possible to connect a computer throw the ethernet port to the PV+ to get the same data that the SLC is sending, so I can have a full history log of the events and alarms that the SLC is monitoring. Thanks! ### Assistant: Yes it is possible to also use the ethernet port in a manner as you discuss. How to go about doing it depends on what data you want. You can for example, send your datalog to a shared folder on the network. For alarms, I think you need to setup the factorytalk alarms to send to a computer running the services platform, I forget right away how to do that part but I know it's in the manuals. Abrigo, you may also want to take a look at tech note 36265, which explains some of the requirements and limitations of remote datalogging. Depending on your application, you may wish to use a more sophisticated logging application. Options include:- RSView32- FTView SE- FactoryTalk Transaction Manager (formerly RS-SQL) However, for small, simple applications, remote logging may work just fine for you at lower cost. n"}
{"text": "### Human: is there a vb.net library for communicating over ethernet/IP? does anyone know of a vb.net library for communicating over ethernet/IP? ### Assistant: Not exactly what you're searching for.... :smileysurprised: just I want to leave a LINK to a site with some resources and infos about Ethernet/IP... maybe your request could get an answer into ODVA web site. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Sounds like you are looking for the RSLinx SDK. Just for reference,here a thread about RSLinx SDK....please note that RSLinx Classic C SDK is no longer available as a new product, thus it isn't supported.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 400 - not operating at low drive signal input voltage? We have a PowerFlex 400 drive that is set for 25Hz at minimum and 50 Hz at maximum. The speed is to be controlled by a 0-10VDC input signal. At 10VDC the drive runs 50Hz, at 5VDC the drive runs 37.5Hz and at 2VDC the drive runs at 30Hz. Anything below 2VDC, however, results in the drive not running at all and being in standby mode rather than run mode. The run forward input to the drive is on at all times. I thought that with the min at 25Hz and the run forward input on, at 0VDC (or slightly greater than 0VDC) the drive should run 25Hz and increase in frequency as the voltage continued up to 2VDC just like it does from 2VDC to 10VDC. Is this not how the drive operates? Is there somewhere in the configuration that I should be looking? ### Assistant: Hi, please post how you've configured the following parameters: P034P035P038 T069T070T071T072 - fuzzy logic Parameters are configured as follows: P034 - 25 HzP035 - 50 HzP038 - 2 T069 - 2T070 - 0T071 - 100T072 - 2 The issue you get is a normal behavior using Analog Signal Loss...you have to change parameter T072 to something else, otherwise your drive will stop when voltage is lower than 1 volt considering it as a signal loss... see the screenshot. Another possibility is to set Analog In 1 Lo (T070) to 20 % (2 volts) as suggested in the Parameter below in the screenshot, so that you will have 2V = 25 Hz10V = 50 Hz Hope this helps… :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 70 main control board replacement. Hello,I have a 30KW powerflex 70 drive and the main control board has failed. I want to know if this board is available as an accessory.Thank You. ### Assistant: The Powerflex 70 main control pcb's aren't standard spare part items or field replaceable items. Prior to installation the board require several flash files that allow the PCB to work. The files are boot code files, application files plus the firmware files which need to flashed by the factory to the boards. All of these files are flashed at the factory during drive assembly. The best option is to send the drive in for repair, and allow the factory to properly flash the correct files to the drive/pcb. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy Logic. I managed to get the control board from another pf70 30kw drive to install on it. It's able to start and stop but does not output any voltage even though the drive displays an output voltage when i monitor it. I'm able to vary the frequency, it ramps up and ramps down but no voltage. Please, is the problem the control board or some other component has failed? It does not show any fault. Programming another similar drive works fine. Your help is very much appreciated. Thank You. Unfortunately the drive does not detect an open circuit fault with the output stage, and therefore the fault may be an open circuit fault within the drives output stage. Aid 49679Aid 53321 for Troubleshooting hints Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you so much Fuzzy Logic for your help. I'm considering replacing the drive now. Thanks once again. Ok ! I think the drive replacement is what you need now...:smileysad: Thanks for your positive feedback ! Hope to be able to help you again in future :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 400 heat sink overtemp What else would be causing this issue besides the description in the book? This is a new drive, it has only been running for less than 24hrs when we started having this issue....I have reviewed all the info in the menues and they seem to match what is on the name plate..... ### Assistant: Hmmm... please check if you have the condition indicated in Aid 58083 In case, contact your Rockwell Automation representative or Tech Support... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I was on the phone with tech support yesterday and we determined that I needed that fan spare parts kit. Today I went to BSE and the AB rep told me the drive we have is not designed to be used on a constant torque application we are using the drive to run a 100HP 480V motor to drive a tri-plex water pump. He informed me that the PF400 is a variable torqe drive, is this correct? He said we are going to continue to experience problems because of the wrong application for this drive?! It really shouldn't matter what mode you are using as long as the continuous current doesn't exceed the design of the drive (142amps for 100hp). You may also want to check the acceleration rate is not excessive, the ambient temperature is within the rating and that the drive has adequate ventilation. It is true that a variable torque drive is used for pumps and fans and continuous torque is typicly used for conveyors and other applications. AB also classifys drives in standard duty and hevy duty. These applications are determined by current requirements and overload capacities. It all boils down to current requirements. -Paul The aceleration time is 20 seconds (default), but what would you consider too short? We have the fan kit enroute, but we will see what happens.... The temp isnt a problem right now, air circulation shouldnt be a problem either yet... The FLA on the drive is 124, and the amp rating on the motor name plate is 114.5. This doent seem to be enough to compensate for the derating for the altitude we are at (6000'), what do you think? We will have to install the fan kit first before we can run the pump to check the actual current draw. and take a closer look at the operating temperatures. Too short could be a time that runs the drive at 110% FLA for more than 1min. The drive/ motor may overheat if it is constantly speeding up and slowing down as with a PID operation. only if it is running above the current rating. according to the specification book the drive should be derated 8.1% at 6000ft. @124 nameplate fla = derate to 114fla @ 40C. I think that this is cutting it very close. -Paul We are now getting this same fault 008 every time we try to run one of our 75HP PF400 drives. Identical drive right next to it with similar operating conditions runs fine at normal temp. Replaced cooling fans as part of the aforementioned recall 2 months ago. After talk with technical support, they said to replace drive. I feel there is something wrong with circuitry that senses the temperature in the drive. AB says temperature sensor, circuit board are not field replaceable. I have had the same problem with the overtemperature fault but the drive was not overtemp and it is bad that is not a field replaceable part, it cant be much to replace, in my case it was a 600hp drive and it was time comsumer to change it out, but i have ran into the same issue a couple of times in the past the thermistor ot what ever they use to check temp failed and had to replace drive n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View ME - Indirect Addressing??? I think I know the answer, but is there any way to indirectly reference tags/addresses either from local memory or from a controller? Thanks. Len ### Assistant: Hmmm… I know you already know the answer… :smileysurprised:Indirect Addressing is not supported in ViewME:smileysad: - fuzzy logic There probably is a crude way of doing what I want by making a custom ActiveX app...but I'm not going there!! Thanks for confirming my hunch. Lendyck,Althought this comment is not full up indirect addressing, I have used parameter files to build a path and lessen the workrequired compared to a 1 to 1 addressing scheme in the HMI. Don't know if this will work for your application or not.If you think it may be of benefit I will gladly send you a working file. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 700 speed control, speed units RPM I have a couple of issues using ControlLogix to control the speed of a PF700 with parameter 79 (Speed Units) set to RPM. The desired speed is set from the PLC logic by assigning a value to the controller tag MyDrive: O.CommandedFreq. One might expect this value to be in RPM, but it isn't. By trial and error I find I need to multiply the desired speed in RPM by 13.654 before storing it in CommandedFreq. This gives a 'Commanded Speed' (parameter 2) in the drive which corresponds with the desired speed in RPM. Where does this scaling factor come from? I'm not getting a linear response from the motor in terms of the actual speed achieved. If I set CommandedFreq to 5000 then I get a Commanded Speed (P2) of 366.2RPM and a Speed Feedback (P25) of 366.2RPM - perfect. But a CommandedFreq of 10000 yields a Commanded Speed of 732.4 (perfect) but a Speed Feedback of 754.8. P23 Speed Reference always matches the Commanded Speed, but the motor is actually turning at the speed indicated by Speed Feedback. So the faster I ask it to go the more it overspeeds. Are there some drive parameters which need tweaking to address this? If anyone can point me at some relevant doc for this stuff that would be a great help. None of the manuals make any reference to the .CommandedFreq units being anything other than Hz (or implicitly RPM if Speed Units is RPM). Mike ### Assistant: Helpful chap at Rockwell TechConnect may have solved this for me - doing some calcs & checks, will post solution if it works. Mike Apologies for the delay (if anyone is interested...). Command frequency should be calculated thus: (32767/MaxFreq) x Req. Hz. MaxFreq is drive parameter 55. Req. Hz is calculated thus: (Motor NP Hz/Motor NP RPM) x Req. RPM Motor NP Hz is drive parameter 43Motor NP RPM is drive parameter 44Req. RPM is the speed you want it to go at. What seems utterly daft is that I can't tell it what speed I want it to go at in RPM. If closed loop speed control is on then how does the drive determine what speed it is trying to maintain? Presumably it's not trying to maintain a Hz value. I can only guess that it reverses the above calculations in order to determine the RPM that was required and compares that to the actual speed derived from the encoder. In that case your PLC program has to do the above calcs only for the drive to reverse them to find out what you really meant. Crazy? Mike n"}
{"text": "### Human: FSC instruction with strings OK, I have searched the forums, tried the online chat, called my local rep, no one has an answer to this one yet...I am setting up security in my PLC. I want the user to enter his user name and password on the HMI and I will loop through an array of strings to find the previously entered user name. When I find that, I want to record the array element number and check to see if the password matches in the array of strings that holds passwords. If so, I want to set a bit that I can use in the rest of the program to indicate that the user is logged in.Sounds pretty straight forward right? Well, here is what happens...I monitor the entered user name to see when it changes, when it does, I use an FSC instruction to compare it to the array of stored user names I have. The array is 100 elements long, I probably won't need quite that many, especially at first, but as time goes on, I will need quite a few. Anyway, if the .fd bit is never set, I send a message back to the HMI indicating that the user name was not found. If the .fd bit does get set, I store the .pos value and use the stored value to compare (using an EQU statement) the entered password to the password array with the same element. If it does not match, I send the HMI a different message indicating that the password did not match. If it does, I latch a bit indicating that the user is logged on.Now, here is where the problem comes in. For testing purposes, I only have values in two elements of the two arrays. I enter a user name that matches one of the values, and the corresponding password and it works. I enter the second user name (to switch users) and matching password, and I get the .fd bit set, but the .pos is wrong. I know it's wrong because I get the HMI message that the password is wrong. I re-enter it, and I get a successful find with .fd bit, .pos being correct, the whole 9 yards...I am absolutely befuddled!!!I can post the ASCII text for the three rungs if anyone wants to try to duplicate it... ### Assistant: OK, please post the instructions ASCII text...just to start with the same logic... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic XIO OpChange NEQ HMI_OperatorUserID OperatorStoredID BST OTL OpChange NXB COP HMI_OperatorUserID OperatorStoredID 1 BND XIC OpChange BST FSC OPCheck ? ? ALL HMI_OperatorUserID = Operators[OPCheck.POS] NXB XIO FinishOPCheck XIO OPCheck.FD BST MOV 1 HMI_InformationCode NXB DELETE HMI_OperatorUserID HMI_OperatorUserID.LEN 1 HMI_OperatorUserID NXB DELETE OperatorStoredID OperatorStoredID.LEN 1 OperatorStoredID NXB DELETE HMI_LoginPassword HMI_LoginPassword.LEN 1 HMI_LoginPassword BND NXB XIO FinishOPCheck XIC OPCheck.FD BST MOV OPCheck.POS SearchKey NXB EQU HMI_LoginPassword OpPasswords[SearchKey] BST OTL OPLoggedIn NXB COP HMI_OperatorUserID CurrentOperator 1 BND NXB NEQ HMI_LoginPassword OpPasswords[SearchKey] MOV 2 HMI_InformationCode NXB OTU OPCheck.FD NXB DELETE HMI_OperatorUserID HMI_OperatorUserID.LEN 1 HMI_OperatorUserID NXB DELETE OperatorStoredID OperatorStoredID.LEN 1 OperatorStoredID NXB DELETE HMI_LoginPassword HMI_LoginPassword.LEN 1 HMI_LoginPassword BND NXB XIC OPCheck.IN OTL FinishOPCheck NXB XIC FinishOPCheck OTU OPCheck.IN BND XIC OpChange XIC OPCheck.DN BST OTU OpChange NXB OTU FinishOPCheck BND Variables are:OpChange Bool HMI_OperatorUserID String Operator_StoredID String OpCheck Control Operators String[100] FinishOpCheck Bool HMI_InformationCode Dint HMI_LoginPassword String SearchKey Dint OpPasswords[100] String CurrentOperator String After two days in the chat sessions with tech support, the issue has been resolved, the solution was to use a RES instruction with the control word of the FSC as the address BEFORE the FSC instruction. That apparently resets something inside of the FSC instruction that I was not resetting manually.Kudos goes to Bruce Kyer for his assistance with this!! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Standard Panelview error 208 I have a standard PV on a DH+ network through a ethernet to DH+ converter with a compact logix chassis. I am getting an error 208 on the PV, intermittentlly. As far as I can see all the tags used in the PV are PLC5 mapped in the program. What might be causing this error ### Assistant: Error 208 - Unable to write to controller There are different causes, try to check the Knowledgebase, using 208 as research key. - fuzzy logic Thanks, tried to delete the usused tags. We will see how it goes. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to use the winder control of PowerFlex DC? I find the PowerFlex DC with winder control. Who knows how to use? how to get the function diagram? ### Assistant: hiuse knowledebase for this...cheers I'm sorry for the not so helpful reply from vikas ... Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the PowerFlex drives to tell you which technote would help. (I know just about enough to spell PowerFlex and not much more.) If no one else pops in soon with a link or suggestion, I recommend submitting a question through the Ask a Question link in the Knowledge Base. That will route the question to the drives folks and they should me able to point you in the right direction. JHutch We all ready run an aplication for a winder unwider aplication with powerflex dc of 400 hp.drives, if more info need please contact aiindustrial@aiindustrial.com Thanks, Could you share your detailed information to us? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Getting Useable Alarm Info out of PV+ 1000 We have many 2711P-RN6 HMIs that I would like to be able to transfer the contents of the Alarm Log to either a Compact Flash card or a Shares Ethernet Hard Drive. Is there a way to do this. Also would it be possibe to configure the USB port to write to a Thumbnail drive for same Purpose. ### Assistant: Yes, this is possible... all the informations you need and the utility to accomplish the copy in Aid 35513 and Aid 33924 Be aware these are Tech Connect users reserved docs... if you can't reach them, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your E-Mail and I will send you back some infos.... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I could only view solution 33924. Not sure how to send a private MSG sorry!!! Make sure you're logged into the Knowledge Base on the standard search page. The advanced search page (temporary bug) uses a different URL and links don't work. Alternatively, if you just search for the technote #, it'll come up in either interface. JHutch To send a PM, open the inbox using the envelope icon on right upper part of the Forum.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RIO addressing problem I am now having a RIO rack with two 1746-OB16 in the first two slot and a 1746-NI8 in the third slot. Besides, the adapter is set to 1/2 slot addressing mode. I wonder which address I should use for the BTR and BTW in the RSLogix500 to configurate the 1746-NI8 module and read data from it. ### Assistant: It depends by the Rack # and the Starting Group you have in your settings.... :smileysurprised: Anyway, with 1/2 slot addressing mode, you have 2 Input and 2 Output words every physical slot, so that means (starting from Group 0) your -NI8 is Rack #, Group 4, Slot 0. (BT uses the lowest Group # of the physical slot) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Starting RSLogix 5, 5000 and 5000 takes 2-3 minutes since installing the new activation software Our company has a toolkit which is shared between 3 offices (10 licenses total) I have borrowed all activations to use with my laptop while working in the field. When I am connected directly to our office network where our activations reside, my RSLogix software takes 20 - 30 seconds to open. When I go out to a job site, my software takes 2 - 3 minutes to open. I called tech support and they had me check the configuration of my network adapter. I changed the default setting, and this seemed to help. The problem has returned and I am now experiencing 2 - 3 minutes delays again. Any Ideas? ### Assistant: I had a similar issue and found a tech note, that told me to change the location that FT activation looks into. I changed the folders to what is shown below and my startup time went from 1-2 minutes down to 10 seconds. C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivations Try to take a look at what is explained in Aid 36198 (maybe the technote Craig has referenced :smileywink: ). - fuzzy logic One thing I did to speed up the start-up times was to create an icon for Rslogix5000 for each version I have installed. I have versions 13-17 and the shortcut actually points to the .exe file that starts that specific version. The standard RSlogix5000Loader.exe has to determine the last version used and opens that version. If you used version 16 last, then it will open version 16....this can take a while. I just point to where the actual .exe is located; i.e. C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000ENUv16BinRS5000.Exe for version 16 AND I disable the Start Page from the Tools>Options menu. Seemed to help for me...worth a try.... :facepalm: I had the FT Activation Client installed, not the Server, which I need to run FTView Studio. Whammo... much faster software starts. Ken, look at the number of posts for two forums. Programmable Controllers has 1900 posts as of this message. The activations forum as 500. People have enough trouble with activation that it gets 1/4 of the traffic of programmable controllers. ONE QUARTER! This is an astounding number. The security features for Rockwell software are so cumbersome, so clumsy, so pain in the neck, users are spending 1/4 of their time just trying to prove they have the right to use it. Even Microsoft activations aren't as much of a bother as it would seem Rockwell activations are. Hey Rockwell users! Why are you not more bothered that so much effort is being spent with ACTIVATION, instead developing your project? You're absolutely right...we spent three days trying to get our activation server to be able to borrow licenses since half our work involves sitting at a fold out table deep inside a plant with no internet access. BUT, we ended up loading the FTA server locally and activating using node-locked licensing because we couldn't borrow an activation. If we have to switch computers, we'll just rehost. We use Autocad with the FlexLM server without ANY problems, hiccups, etc. The programming software has its moments but otherwise works great....the activation portion, though, I believe was extremely premature, especially for Toolkit owners. I think they missed how their end users actually use their product. n"}
{"text": "### Human: rslinx classic....failed to connect to OPC server Hi ;I am trying to import live data to excel using OPC, I can create the OPC topic fine in RSlinx classic 2.5 but when I click on copy link a failed to connect to OPC server using rslinx OPC server. Factory talk data test client works fine however rslinx opc test client fails to connect to server.any help or insight is much appreciated.thanks ### Assistant: Just a check easy to do : what is the text in the upper left part of RSLinx Classic windows ? Just to be sure you have succesfully activated your RSLinx Classic, at least to OEM version to be able to use it as an OPC server... also be aware RSLinx is not tested on Win XP Sp3 OS.... - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy;the heading is RSLinx classic for factory talk view. how would I go about activating the software to OEM. I inhereted this PC from a former employee all I have is product serieal numbers, product keys are missing. when I go to the factory talk activations all that is listed is RSLogix 500 and RSEmulate. thanks for the prompt reply.Danny This is the why you can't use your OPC server... :smileysad: Try to call in Tech Support to verify if your Serial Number has a valid license associated... they will guide you to activate your RSLinx... - fuzzy logic thanks alot, i will doDanny Ok Danny... :smileyhappy: Just a thing... solution mark usually should be over the post that either gives a solution or clarifies and answers the question... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-OB16P vs 1794-OB16 I just got an I/O 1794-OB16 not working. I have available one 1794-OB16P but my technicians are telling me it is not working. I know the letter P stands for Protected. Do I need to set any special parameter or something?Please advise... anyone... ### Assistant: There aren't particular differances between the two (they have the same I/O image, same *pinout* ), but the problem could be in the Electronic Keying mismatch... it depends which is the network/scanner you're using... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Scaling raw value I'm using a SCP in micrologix 1500 with the analog input coming from a multiplexer with 6 RTD inputs that I'm pulsing multiplexer at 5 second intervals but the scaled value jumps around 1-3 degrees as the raw value in SCP is jumping around.(it is not a earthing issue as have tested and also have an isolated 4-20mamp input) is there a nice way to take samples of raw value and average out before it is used in SCP or some other bit of code to dampen the raw value out?? ### Assistant: Perhaps a simple first-order (lag) filter would do the trick. You can do this with several math instructions or a couple CPTs. I'm more of a ControlLogix user than Micrologix, so I'm using float math with variable names and structured text syntax to show the algorithm. I'll let you convert to Micrologix code...... Alpha := 1.0/(1.0+ScanTime/FilterTC) ; FilteredValue := (Alpha * FilteredValue)+((1.0-Alpha)*UnfilteredValue ; If your scan time isn't too variable, you can just hard-code Alpha and only use the second compute. Note that the filtered output from the previous scan is used in computing the new filtered value. If you use the above in ControlLogix, you need to make sure you don't get infinity (1.$) or not-a-number (1.#NAN) into the filtered value or you'll never get it out! There are no divides in the second line, so if you use a fixed Alpha, you won't get any divide-by-zero errors or any of that... Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Where is CompactLogix Selection Guide? I was in the process of specifying a Compact Logix system and wanted to see if there was a newer version of the selection guide, Pub. 1769-SG001H-EN-P. I searched for 1769-SG and nothing showed up in the literature library. My guess is that Rockwell has merged this guide and the I/O guide into another one but I have no way of knowing. Anyone know where this info is located now? ### Assistant: I've recently downloaded a new one, pub # 1769-sg001i-en-p dated March 2009... so I suppose there isn't a newer released neither it is merged inside other pubs...just I think something broken with the link in the Literature website... :smileysurprised: I suggest to wait a couple of days, maybe they will repair the link.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Well since my original post I did a little more investigating and I found a link to 1769-SG001H-EN-P dated July 2008. However I did not find it in the literature library. I discovered it in the CompactLogix overview section at ab.com under the Additional Resources tab. It's kinda hard to believe that links to both the CompactLogix selection guide and the Compact I/O selection would be broken. Maybe they are in the process of updating them. Yeah, maybe you're right... :smileytongue: this merged solution has been just realized for ControlLogix Selection Guide in the last release,,,Strange is that they have just release a new Selection Guide (-sg001i) I have on my PC just for the Controllers with short infos about I/O as previous released guides... Anyway, we have to wait.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic The Selection Guide is now available for download… no new issue, just the same I’ve already on my PC since one month… - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help with this. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View 5.0 Network: the time of changing one display to another display is too long my appliction is Network:one server has two clients.one client now has a probelm: when click one button to run command 'display', it takes more than 30s. ### Assistant: I have a vague recollection of a similar problem with at least two different resolutions. In one we applied the latest patch rollup. In the other, we corrected a DNS problem. I could not tell you what the problem was in the DNS server, but we worked around it by using HOSTS files. As you probably know, these map host names to static IP addresses. So you could map the names/IP address of all the computers in your application in a HOSTS file (exactly that name, no file extension) and place it in the C:WindowsSystem32DriversEtc directory. To avoid a reboot, you can issue the command IPCONFIG/FlushDNS from a DOS command prompt, which will clear any previous name resolutions and since HOSTS file is checked before any DNS servers, the problem is solved (assuming you configured the HOSTS file correctly). This is easy to try, easier than the patch rollup, so I'd say try that first. Hope it helps! JonathanKent is correct in using the HOST files. In a static network, ALWAYS use HOST files. Some other related issues can be IE cache. In the process of installing patches, setting up HOST files on the Client and Server, try deleting your temporary internet files and setting the temp internet file to check for new pages everytime I visit the webpage. Good Luck Thank you! The problem is solved(just reboot the server host). ...........great job.........the rsreboot saves the day. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC-2 cat. no.: 150-A97NB with PCB cat. no.: 150-N wiring help I have been looking very extensively both here and on the WWWregards the PCB interface unit, cat. no.: 150-N which I haveon each of my four SMC-2 units.I have tried looking everywhere :)The electronic board has no source for input voltage etc, with theexception of a ten pin connection labelled TP1 near the DIPswitches. I suspect this 10 pin set to be a serial interface to a PCfor I/O communication purposes. It may also be a source of voltageto actuate the gate on each of the three modules.There is the typical trigger connections for the TT162N powerblocksattached to the heatsink (four wires for each module), but there isno voltage source for them to work...well none that I can see.See the attached photo to help you.I have seen the documents: 150-at002_-en-p.pdf150-in001_-mu-p.pdf150-in004_-mu-p.pdf150-in006_-mu-p.pdf150-qs002_-en-p.pdf150-um003_-en-p.pdf ...none provide any wiring diagrams for the SMC-2 with an attached150-N interface unit.What I really would love to see is a schematic for the legacy board150-N, pinout wiring diagram for the ten pins located near the DIP switch and how to provide power to the three powerblock gateswhile still using the 150-N PCB interface.Any help related to the 150-N interface board would be of greatassistance.My interest in these units can be explainedby visiting Homegrown Power...and that is me, CraziestOzzy :P Cheers ### Assistant: These units are Soft starters for motorsThe blocks are back to back scr's that fire off on the back end of the 50 hz sine wave. ( use your crow - aussie name for Osciloscope - to check this)The 150N1 unit only allowed for remote start/ and ramp stop with an up to speed aux.The units are rated for scr's full on ( not variable speed ) and the voltage ramp starts once 3 phase power is appliedPlease use them for what they were designed for and leave the smart stuff for the one's with all the money !!! n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-IF8 channel problem I have a problem with with analog input 1756-IF8 , the raw data for 2nd channel is alway 0 even when swapping between 1st and 2nd channels, they are wired using (single endeded current), I have checked the jumper iRTN, Please note that it was working before ### Assistant: If the hardware seems ok, and you can read some values if you connect the device on channel 1, then only thing I can suggest is to double check how the 2nd channel is configured in RS5000...Try to configure it in the same mode as the 1st, and then either take out and reinsert the card from chassis, or put the processor in Prog and then in Run again (needed in order to reapply the configuration to the module) Let us know.... - fuzzy logic Mar, I assume you've measured the current thru the input and it's in the range of 4 to 20 mADC. This current is applied across a 250-ohm resistor in the card and the card measures the voltage across the resistor as 1 to 5 VDC. You can measure this voltage directly, between the current input pin and signal common. If it's way more than 5 volts, the resistor is probably fried open. But you'll likely see a large data value in this case, not zero. If you see way more than 5 volts and zero data, you've probably fried the resistor and the channel.... bummer. If it's near zero, something is shorted or not getting to the card. This is the case where you'd see zero in the data. I'd pull the signal wires and apply a signal simulator, or even a AA-cell ( ! ), across the input. The AA cell, at 1.5VDC, would run a signal of 6 mA thru 250 ohms, or about 12.5% of scale. If it's 1 to 5 volts (in exact proportion to the 4 to 20mA), the resistor is good and it's something else. Check config, try some default values like 4 mA = 0 EU, 20 mA = 100 EU. Inhibit the connection and uninhibit or pull the card and re-insert to re-send the Configuration data to it. Have you tried a spare card? It takes some effort to fry an IF8 channel, but I've done it! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC addressing Dear All, I have a AB PLC2/20 with a PLC2 software loaded on normal PC plus the application program printout thar systm lauout is as follow: - Main PLC Rack ------------> PS+CPURack No.1 ------------> ASB1771 + 2 DO MODULE AC (1771-OM) + 11 DO MODULE DC (1771-OB) + 1 DI MODULE DC (1771-IM) Rack No.2 ------------> ASB1771 + 16 DI MODULE DC (1771-IM) Please I need to know:- 1- The addressing of each module in rack 1 & 2 , noted that I know that that 1ST. left no if one -->input if 0 --->output, 2 left no for rack, 3 left no for group and 3&4 left no for terminal but my program printout contian 11xxx, 12xxx, 13xxx, 04xxx,05xxx, 06xxx and 07xxxany one can be explain Thank for All ### Assistant: Hi, I suggest to take a look to the Programming Manual ; it contains the informations you need. Anyway, your considerations about the addressing are correct, see the attached screenshot. The Module Group related to an I/O module depends by the addressing mode you are using. The *strange* addresses you can see in your program, are probably related to Timer/Counter data :smileysurprised: Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: INVIEW suddenly dropping message file We have an Inview 2706-P22R installed on a customers machine connected to a 1761-NET-ENI module - Ethernet messaging from a ControlLogix 5562 controller (Logix version 13.04 - this is an older machine) The Inview will run properly for weeks, then suddenly lose its message file - when the message file is reloaded the same cycle is repeated - fine for a while - then no message file. I believe the customer has replaced the Inview and it happens with a new unit. Is there possibly any message we can be sending the Inview commanding it to erase it's message file? The timing from loading a new file until it gets erased is random. We have the same setup on other machines with no problem at all. This machine has 3 different modules with individual messaging to 3 different Inviews from the same PLC, no problems with the other 2. ### Assistant: steve.barber wrote: Is there possibly any message we can be sending the Inview commanding it to erase it's message file?Yes, remove all messages from a display is possible using a command line.... see the User Manual pages 4-7 / 4-8 / 4-9 Not sure this is what happens there.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView 32 v 7.50-Alarm History List doesn't update anymore I have RSView 32 app that I was running on v7.4. I upgraded to v7.5 and now the alarm history list does not update anymore? Is there something that needs to be checked in the setup for the viewer that I am missing so that it will update. The only way the view updates currently is if I stop the application and restart it. Anyone have any ideas? ### Assistant: Just a question to clarify and avoid misunderstantings: Are you talking about the Alarm Log Viewer or the alarm Summary ? :smileysurprised: Thanks.... - fuzzy logic It is the alarm log viewer. The alarm summary is running fine. Ended up having to remove some backup files and it started working again. n"}
{"text": "### Human: date time I WANT TO USE PLC'S DATE TIME INTO MY APPLICATION SO HOW TO USE THAT ONE... THX ### Assistant: You have to use GSV to get the values and SSV to set the values... attached is an example... I have created a new array named myCLOCK with 7 DINTs and starting from element 0 I get all the Date and Time infos in this array.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Bless, You can do a GSV to get the LocalDateTime attribute (v16 or v17) or the DateTime attribute (v15 and earlier) for the WallClockTime Object. Fuzzy gave you the layout for the data, a 7 element DINT array. I like to create a User Defined Structure for this. Be sure to use LocalDateTime for v16 or v17 apps because DateTime function was changed in v16. Additional information may be found in CH 4 of the Logix Controller Instruction Set Reference Manual. Here is a link to the manual --> http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1756-rm003_-en-p.pdf If you're using PLC-5 - family controllers, (if I recall correctly) the date/time is in the S file in S:18 (year) thru about S:23. If you're using RSLogix 5000 version 17, look in the Vendor Sample Programs for an application containing Add-On Instruction examples. There's a whole set of date/time math and manipulation instructions there, with a routine showing examples of usage. I think one example shows how to use them to calculate how many days until you retire. If you're lucky. Dale, W8ABZ  I think one example shows how to use them to calculate how many days until you retire. If you're lucky. As I recall, there's another example that will add up all of the things in life that don't add up. I tried using it and it faulted the controller.Something about ...infinite loop resulting in cataclysmic CPU meltdown.Perform the following -1. See TechNote 666 (it's in the details) 2. Using dust pan, sweep up as much of the debris (including chassis) and send to Tech Support.3. Update your resume.4. Remove another Controller of same Catalog Number from inventory and put in waste receptacle.5. Write your mother, she would appreciate hearing from you. I'll try to find the TechNote number. Larry, Believe it or not, despite the date on it, my post was not intended (originally) as an April Fool's Day joke! Here's the rung of interest: Looks like back in July, someone had 7852 calendar days yet to work, plus 9 hours, 48 minutes, 16 seconds and 621274 microseconds. Poor guy.... Those last 600,000 microseconds will be a BEAR! Thanks, Larry, for your funny reply. Thanks, Rockwell, for the useful joke material in the sample app! p.s.: Look at T_Clock, rungs 2 and 3. They got the day of the week computation down to 3 CPTs -- with NO REALs and only two DINT intermediates! I'm definitely gonna use that! Now it's April 2..... Back to work! Dale, W8ABZ Sorry, here's the picture of the rung and data..... My bad Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: 6186 Industrial Terminal I have 10 of these units installed at the present time. On two of them, I have to constantly calibrate the touchscreen. Any ideas? ### Assistant: Try to download latest Driver for your Monitor... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk Security -- Setting up product policies Hi all,I have a server setup as the Factory Talk network directory, and additional clients pointed to that network directory. I want to prevent some users from uninstalling RSLogix (apparently if you enable Factory Talk security during an RSlogix installation, simply uninstalling and reinstalling without the security gets around it). I went into the network directory to setup the product policy Allow the un-installation of RSLogix for RSLogix 5, such that I denied a certain user that privilege. I then went to a client PC, logged in as that user and tried to uninstall RSLogix 5, and did so with no problems. My question is: after setting up a product policy, how is it then activated? I tried to disable un-installation on the local directory and that did not prevent uninstall either. Any suggestions? Thanks, BJ ### Assistant: Did you already try to follow Aid 33864 ? Or Quick Start chaper 3... both regarding the correct installation procedure... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy,Thanks for the advice. I reviewed the quick start guide again and realized that I should not have installed Factory Talk administration console on the client PC (computer 2). I uninstalled and reinstalled FT services platform (without admin console) and tried again, but still, I do not get any prompt from FT that prevents me from installing or uninstalling RSLogix. BJ n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView V.4 Using two or more AREAs in a redundant system I am using RSView SE, Version 4 CPR7. Is it possible to use two or more AREAS, in one application in a redundant system? Under each area I am planning to have one hmi server and one data server. Application Area_1 HMI_server_1 Data_server_1 Area_2 HMI_server_2 Data_server_2 ### Assistant: Yes, this is a possible configuration.Just be aware to separate the HMI servers from the Data servers using Sub-areas. Please take a look to: Aid 29663 - Areas Structuring GuidelinesAid 32549 - Distributed System design (page 27)Aid 38160 - Server redundancy Guidelines Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1746-OW16 Hello,I have several spare output modules 1746-OW16 some of them are series C and some are series D.Also 13 slot chassis (1746-A13) for SLC500 I have series B and C.Are the units with different series compatible?Thanks ### Assistant: Didn't find notes about issues for different series neither in KB nor in manuals. That means there aren't problems of compatibility to use your products. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Re: Powerflex 40 faliure after power cycle What's the maximum times per hour we can cycle the power at powerflex 40 drives? ### Assistant: Macedonia, take a look to the following post, it may helps....altough it is referred to PF4, it can be an useful guideline... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=561#M561 - fuzzy logic It is my understanding that the power supply fails while in operation, and continues to run until power is cycled, so # of cycles shouldn't effect the problem. Power cycles will just increase how fast you detect you have had a failure. n"}
{"text": "### Human: add on instruction can explain what can we do with add on instrruction and what we cant ? rahul ### Assistant: can you expalin add on instruction with examples?? rahul any.......help on this ..other than manaul knock..knock are you there? You'll need to wait a little longer than 6 minutes per post if you want a response! :) Especially when you post at 2 in the morning US time when the majority of our customers are asleep. Now that it is morning, I'm guessing you'll start getting some responses. JHutch Usually I try to be fast in the answers, but in this case there is too much rush! :smileywink: Add-On Instructions are custom instructions that you design and create.With Add-On Instructions, you can create new instructions for sets of commonly-used logic, provide a common interface to this logic, and provide documentation for the instruction.Add-On Instructions are intended to be used to encapsulate commonly used functions or device control. Take a look to the ADD-ON Instruction Programming Manual There are also useful videos in the Start Page Media on RS5000; you may also download these videos at this LINK Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic RE - Add on Instructions BEWARE - before you rush off and start changing all your standard code into add on instruction form. As i have found out they are limited. You can not pass Arrays out of add on instructions and uploading programs from a PLC that contain add on instrctions can also cause you problems. Bless, Look in the Vendor Sample projects for examples. In V16 or V17, go to Help | Vendor Sample Projects. Look in the Rockwell Automation examples for Add_On_Instruction_Samples.ACD. Others are correct in their opinions to use with care. Here are my thoughts (guidelines): 1. They are intended as Instructions, not control strategies, control modules, equipment modules, units or anything really big. If you are putting a huge chunk of code to control a machine into an AOI so as to control a second machine, you are misusing AOIs. 2. The definition cannot be online edited. So don't put anything in an AOI that you would have to online edit (change at startup with a bunch of impatient managers standing around). Yes, make them configurable (with data) -- so you could have a valve AOI that is configurable for Use Limit Switches / Don't Use Limit Switches -- but not much more complicated than that. Use the AOI as a valve driver -- that opens and closes a valve -- but don't use it to decide WHEN to open and close the valve -- that is highly likely to change on startup. 3. Outside visible parameters can only be SINT / INT / DINT / REAL / BOOL (atomic types), for inputs and outputs. Any type (array, UDT) can be an InOut parameter, but that data is NOT part of the backing tag for the instruction -- it's a separate tag. So now your instruction instance has TWO tags instead of one. Things start getting confusing. (Local tags, hidden away inside the instruction, can be any type.) 4. Avoid using Messages and ALMA/ALMD block within an AOI. Message and A&E tags MUST be base tags because they have ties to some controller buffers. Every MSG or ALMA or ALMD would have to be an InOut parameter and you have to set these up separately. (MAJOR PRODUCTIVITY TIP: If you do use MSGs and you want to use your AOI in multiple projects, don't export the AOI -- export the RUNG with the AOI on it. You'll get the MSG configs and the message data tags and their contents in the export.) 5. Test test test test and test. Make sure you handle powerdown / powerup and PROG to RUN properly, and give at least some consideration to the EnableInFalse routine, especially if you are using AOIs in LD. (By the way, if you use an XIC of EnableIn, you should go back and read the manual again. EnableIn is ALWAYS true in the Logic routine and NEVER true in the EnableInFalse routine!) Also, I haven't used my AOIs in SFCs, so I can't speak to how to design/use the Postscan routine. Sorry....) In short, AOIs are great for things like algorithms (temperature compensating flow, steam saturation curve), device drivers (valve, motor, smart transmitter support, 3rd party module support) and such, and not so great for making BIG things (a machine or a process unit) as a replacement for copying'/pasting a Program. If you can live with the InOut parameters and extra tags, AOIs are nice for adding a new type to the Logix language. The vendor sample project I mentioned above shows how to add a Date&Time type and all the math instructions to support it (like GRT, GEQ, LES, LEQ, EQU, NEQ, ADD, SUB, etc., but for date/time data). I assume you could do similar things for data like Vectors, Complex Numbers and such.... (3 + 4j) + (2 - 7j) = (5 - 3j) Good Luck! And pay attention to what you do with your AOIs on startup. If you keep going offline, making changes and downloading, either the instruction wasn't well tested or it's a misapplication -- you're using AOIs like custom code and not for generic, reusable things they were designed for. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ I find them to be a poor halfway house at the moment and hope that when the next new release of Logix5000 comes out that they have been developed further. Add on instructions in Logix5000 have along way to go before they have anything like the capabilities of a Siemens S7 Function Block. I have had no trouble passing both UDTs or Arrays into and out of Add On Instructions. But like others have mentioned, keep it short. I have used them frequently with outputs, where if I turn on output A I want to be sure output B is turned off. I also built filter timers into the AOI, which you can ignore if you don't need but means you can always fill in a time if you determine later that you need it, without really needing to modify the program. I also put input monitor so that if an input should turn on with the activation of the output, the AOI monitors that, and it also looks for an input to turn off. The above AOI for us also generates an error word, which is an array passed in and modified if necessary and then passed out. Although it sounds like a complicated AOI it's only 8 rungs, with no complex logic inside of it. The advantage we find is first, consistentcy in programming and second, simple error checking built in just by using the command . If necessary, you can make it so that only people who have a password are allowed to change it, and you can even turn off the ability for others to view the code, if you want to. You also can apply Revision Levels and notes to AOI's, which can be helpful for future trouble shooting or documentation. This also can make it easy to send out modified commands to other projects which use the same AOI in that you can export it, and the other project can then import it, and if the changes will take place automatically everywhere you used the AOI command. One further thing which might be a benefit, is that the AOI seems to take less memory than if I repeated the same 8 lines of code for each output I use the AOI for. I have not bothered to look this up however,so take memory saving with a grain of salt. Hope I wasn't too wordy and that this helped. We use them for other commands, but like others have posted, keep it simple. If you really need a lot of logic then you probably should use the Task/Program/Routine to write the logic instead of trying to cram all of it into an AOI. and apply security to them if it is needed. Sorry to re-open this post but I have a question regarding a comment made by W8ABZ, the comment goes like this:- Bless, Look in the Vendor Sample projects for examples. In V16 or V17, go to Help | Vendor Sample Projects. Look in the Rockwell Automation examples for Add_On_Instruction_Samples.ACD. Others are correct in their opinions to use with care. Here are my thoughts (guidelines: 1. They are intended as Instructions, not control strategies, control modules, equipment modules, units or anything really big. If you are putting a huge chunk of code to control a machine into an AOI so as to control a second machine, you are misusing AOIs. I am about to embark on a new project for a simple custom built assembly machine and I would like to use AOI's, phase manager and follow the learnings of ISA S88 standard. I have purchased a book called Design Patterns for Flexible Manufacturing which is a pretty good read and the way I am interpreting it, it appears that a control module is the lowest level of control which in my opinion would suit an AOI controlling say a valve/cylinder with a couple of sensors perfectly. I the above statement by W8ABZ he is using all the S88 terms like control module, equipment module, units etc which immediately drew my attention so I am assuming that he has a pretty good understanding of the concept however he is indicating that a control module should not be an AOI. Have I miss interpreted the actual concept of a Control Module and it is not a group of code that would perform basic tasks like managing the extention and retraction of a cylinder when instructed by a higher order equipment module??? Would really love to hear some comments surronding the implementation of S88 and phase manager. Cheers KidPLC and all, First, be aware that everybody has a different opinion of what a Control Module is -- within the limits of the S88.01-1985 definition. What I'm giving is my opinion. Take it as that only, please. (Moderator: perhaps a new thread from KidPLC's message on is in order.....) If I look at the built-in instruction set, I might build a PID loop using a scaling instruction to go from raw analog input (say, 0-4095 for my old 1771-IFE) to engineering units, an ALARM instruction for PV alarms, a PIDE for the actual loop control, and some other blocks for override/hand support, etc. To me, this sheet of function blocks is ONE Control Module -- it regulates one process variable in a fairly straightforward fashion. I could make similar arguments for a discrete 2-state device (motor, valve). A sheet of function blocks or a range of rungs (if I want to be modular, I make it a ladder Routine) including D2SD (or equivalent ladder logic) plus permissives, interlocks, etc., is ONE Control Module. If you look at the old ProcessLogix system (which I had a fair amount of experience with, no doubt pre-disposing my opinion), a CM was basically a sheet of function blocks. S88.01 allows CMs to contain CMs, so you can have three PIDs -- suction pressure, discharge pressure, motor current -- on separate sheets plus a low-select to the pump drive output so that you don't pull suction pressure too low, or discharge pressure or motor current too high. You're still manipulating one variable (drive speed ref to the pump motor), but now you've got something more complex that you might code with a combination of ladder and function block Routines. But to my mind it's still ONE Control Module. We can come up with examples, like two interacting variables, where the one controlled variable rule is technically broken, but it's still a single (complex) control strategy. How does this fit with AOIs? IN MY OPINION: An AOI should be something basic, that you configure, perhaps, but don't edit on startup. The logic to monitor a motor and determine if it's running, starting, stopping, stopped, failed to start or failed to stop belongs in an AOI (Motor). The logic to decide when to start or stop the motor is part of the process control strategy and likely to change on startup. You can't edit an AOI online, so I would not put this logic in an AOI. IN MY OPINION: AOIs are the building blocks (along with built-in instrucitons) for control strategies (Control Modules, Equipment Modules, Equipment Phases). The CMs, EMs and EPs are the Routines (for EP, the controller Equipment Phases, which are peer of Programs) that hold the AOIs and built-in instructions. Now, you could have a CM that contains one instruction, like Motor for a manually-operated motor -- assuming you mapped the I/O as REQUIRED input and output parameters so they were on the instruction face, etc., etc. But to me, that instruction plus it's I/O mapping, interlocks (if any), permissives (if any), Mode stuff (if any other than operator) belongs in a motor CM Routine. If the Routine contains one instruction, so be it. Again, MY OPINION. You will find countless others and I don't want to start a huge discussion, flame war, etc. I've had success using the above philosophy -- your mileage may vary. If you want to start a flame war, ask for opinions on the relationship between Equipment Modules, Units and Equipment Phases....... that's even more all over the map than the CM discussion. Good Luck and Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ Hi W8ABZ, Thank you for your detailed reply I really appreciate your insights. I agree that there is allot of scope for individual interpretation of the standard. It will be interesting to see how I am able to fashion my program into the S88 model over the course of this project. Cheers KidPLC n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV1000: Tag loses data source resulting in an ERROR Display covering vital data. I am using a PV1000 Gray to monitor data from two ControlLogix controllers via Ethernet/IP. The most vital of the monitored data is coming from controller ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a way to suppress or disable Terminal Messages like the one you got... only way is to move the vital objects in another area of the PV window...:smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation trouble I have the newest version of factory talk server and factory talk client installed on my computer, but my license information is not showing up in the current activations window. Can anyone offer any help? ### Assistant: Do you see the activation in the rehost tab of the Activation Tool ?Did you start the Server in the Setting Tab ?Which is the Host ID have you selected ? If it is a Network Card, verify it is active in your PC... Sorry to reply with answers...just to better understand what is going on.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic After much frustration with trying to get an activation server going where we could borrow a license (in another post), we loaded our software in a node-locked configurationg such as yourself. My licenses never do show up. Once you load the server, you don't have to load the client as well...just the server. Once you reboot, go through the activation wizard to activate 1 license, you have to make sure the server is running. You don't say what Rockwell particular software you're running but check the log file in C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogs to see if your software is being checked out/in when you run it. In order to see your activations, it may take several minutes (mine has taken up to 5 minutes before) to show the activations. If you look at the number of posts in this particular forum, you can see Rockwell has problems with the activation software eventhough other companies use the FlexLM server without any problems. Our take is if we can get our software running....we're happy. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 5000 PLC Have a main task with 8 programs under it. Would like to setup where I could just run one program and not scan the rest based on a tag being on or off. Is this possible? and how? ### Assistant: HI Bruce, you may use an SSV instruction, using the PROGRAM object, writing 1 to DisableFlag attribute... see the screenshot taken from RS5k online help... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PVP Hanging Up Issue (w/ image 1/6) As you can see as below, PV+ terminals often hanging up (no response to touching) makes our customer feel very upset. I'm the embedded engineer on the site, here I'd like to provide some more information for your analyzing.the PV+ firmware is Ver5.00.00.55 (CPR 9), the runtime application file (*.mer) is about 2,850 KB, no trending , no data log function. I take some photos from one of the failed terminals, as the attached file. by the file we can see: 1. at Apr 28,2009, 17:14:54pm, shows RESET BUTTON BOOT or BROWNOUT BOOT. the terminal suffered from hanging up, we have to push the RESET on the logic module to wake it up. 2. When I go to configuration mode, at the beginning I see the AVAILABLE Flash is only 2 KB, is this related with terminal hanging up? 3. then I delete all 2 runtime files at External storage ( external CF card), I find the AVAILABLE Flash become to 32 KB, why? AVAILABLE Flash memory means internal CF card, is that right? 4. Then I delete one file in internal CF card, AVAILABLE Flash become to 2,882 KB, I Think it is reasonable.This is what I observed, any suggestions are welcome. EDIT - Combined all posts into one and resized/cropped images to a decent size. They are included in the attached zip file. - JHutch ### Assistant: I apologize to post here...this IS NOT a reply to daiyongfei (forgive me for this ! )... :smileytongue: WOW!!! JHutch, what a nice attachment ! :smileyvery-happy: We NEED this ! I already know your answer, but seeing this make me more anxious to get the possibility to use this feature in the Forum !!!! :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Now, an answer for daiyongfei... :smileytongue: It seems something got corrupted in that PVP... you may try the following: 1. Set the terminal to Delete log files on startup... this may help if something got corrupted at powerup (just be aware Alarm History and Status will be deleted)2. Delete MER file on PVP, recreate MER file and re-download3. Re-flash the PVP firmware, maybe to the last available version (5.00.07) About the memory... Either leave only an application on the Internal Flash, and verify to have *enough* available memory (2 Kb or 32 Kb seems really too few)...or delete all the applications from Internal CF and use an External CF to hold them...You may also consider the possibility to order a larger internal Memory for your application (2711-RWx) If you have another Logic module available, or another PVP, try to see if the same application works fine on that... considering the possibility the internal CF is corrupted and needs to be changed... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Off topic reply: fuzzy logic wrote: I apologize to post here...this IS NOT a reply to daiyongfei (forgive me for this ! )... :smileytongue: WOW!!! JHutch, what a nice attachment ! :smileyvery-happy: We NEED this ! I already know your answer, but seeing this make me more anxious to get the possibility to use this feature in the Forum !!!! :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Actually, the problem is that the system won't let me turn this on for groups of people or even individuals. It's an all or nothing. And as I'm sure anyone on the Internet for more than 5 minutes can attest, unrestricted attachments ... is a scary thought! :) (FYI, when I did the zip attachment above, I had to turn on zip file attachments for everyone, quickly update the post, then turn zip files back off. If anyone else had tried during that 45 second window, they would have been able to attach zip files, too! :) ) JHutch PS There may be fix coming soon. Our vendor is supposed to giving us a new image content system that uses separate security settings... So I turn on image attachments for everyone (like now) and then make zip only file attachments available and turn on attachments to trusted groups (ie, people that have hit certain ranks). We'll see how it works out when the vendor gets the new feature ready for testing. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769 CompactLogix I/O Modules My company was about to purchase the 1769-L32E CompactLogix from Rockwell Automation for one of our project. The existing project utilized 1794 FlexLogix controller. We want to switch to CompactLogix 1769 but maintain the same applications. However, as I went through the 1769 catalogue, the 1738 ArmorPoint I/O module is not in the compatibility list. I need to identify an I/O module (to replace 1738 ArmorPoint) that supports CompactLogix 1769-L32E through EtherNet/IP, ControlNet and DeviceNet, similar to one that supports 1794 FlexLogix. One more question: Which I/O module that can replace 1771 PLC-5 (through ControlNet) for CompactLogix 1769? Thank you and I really appreciate if anyone can reply soon as possible. ### Assistant: Maybe I've misunderstood your request, but.... :smileytongue: You CAN connect a 1738 Armor Point I/O via Ethernet/IP to a CompactLogix...no problems at all...Also you may use these I/O in ControlNet or Devicenet...just be aware -L32E has not the possibility to connect a ControlNet network... :smileysurprised: About last question: if you want connect a 1771 I/O via ControlNet to a CompactLogix, it is possible... otherwise you may use Point I/O, Armor Point I/O or Flex I/O... just again be aware you need either a L32C or L35CR controller to have ControlNet available, and in that case, you have not the Ethernet/IP port :smileysurprised:CompactLogix L4x series has instead the possibility to manage both networks together... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1391B Series Drive, Performing a Safety Upgrade We are looking at performing a safety upgrade on a 1391B, 45Amp AC Drive but I am having a hard time finding any technotes or manuals on this product. We would like to add redundant contactors on the Line or Load side of the drive and are trying to find examples on how to do this. I am sure I am not the first person to require this? Kindest Regards, Yvon ### Assistant: Just I may indicate where to find the manuals... :smileysurprised: User ManualDocument Update Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747-UIC Issues Just downloaded the latest RSLinx version but now I cannot get my UIC to work.Device Manager under ports say:USB DH-485 Serial Port (COM9) In RSLinx I pick the UIC driver assign com 9 as the port. And I get nothing in RSWho. It shows that it is browsing for nodes but never finds anything.I checked the node address for the processor I am connected to and it is set to 1 my computer is set to 0. My DF1 and Ehternet drivers work just fine so I know RSLinx is running ok. Oh..and the little selector switch is in the correct position. I've tried both. Neither work Anyone? ### Assistant: Hi this was in a Rockwell news letter the other day http://www.rockwellautomation.co.nz/applications/gs/ap/gsnz.nsf/pages/Installing_a_1747-UIC_Device_Driver_on_a_Windows_XP_Pro_Computer Just be aware you're not using it on Win XP SP3 OS computer as RSLinx isn't tested on it... :smileysad: Also maybe useful to double check setting inside PLC (port should be configured as DH-485, check node and speed to be compatible with your driver) The 1747-UIC interface converter operates at 19.2 Kbps only, so set the Baud Rate to 19200. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Imbedding Video in FT View v5.0 I am looking into the idea of embedding a few cameras into an application. I have never seen it done but I believe with the correct Active X controls this is doable. Has anyone ever done this and can give me input? Or would anyone know of a white paper that would describe the design requirements and limitations. Emmett MooreEmmett.moore@lafarge-na.com ### Assistant: Some camera vendors have embedded web pages. If you can point to a URL and see the video, you can use a Microsoft Web Browser ActiveX control (assuming this is an SE application). The syntax in VBA to tell the web browser to point at the camera's URL would be: Me.MicrosoftWebBrowser1.Navigate2(www.urlname.com)Place this code in a button's Released event and that should work. See also tech note 55526 for some more examples of how to use the Web Browser ActiveX control with SE. Although the JonathanKent's solution is correct, the link he has proposed is only reserved to Rockwell Automation Employees.... :smileysurprised: Just to leave a reference to another technote, visible from TechConnect level people, here the following: Aid 29851 have example about it. Basically, after creating a new display , from Objects select ActiveX Control and draw it on the display; then create a button on that screen with following action: Invoke mydisplay.MicrosoftWebBrowser1.Navigate2(www.ab.com ) mydisplay is the display nameMicrosoftWebBrowser1 is the object nameNavigate2 is the method Running the application in the SE client, when you press the button, Rockwell web site will appear; obviously you'll change the URL to the one right for your needs... Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Excellent guys. Thank you both. I will probably have more questions when I roll the app out for testing. n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix: Migration Path Anyone please... I need to know is there any modification in the migration path (ladder codes) upon switching from 1794 FlexLogix to 1769-L32E CompactLogix? If so, what are the modification? Thanks for the help. ### Assistant: Basically the conversion is easy to do between these two platforms...anyway you will have some works to reconfigure the I/O modules, that will be deleted.The tags remain in the tag folders, the I/O addresses remains in your ladder routines but should be edited and linked to the new hardware I/O (slot addressing start from 0 in FlexLogix, and from 1 in CompactLogix...making this *wrong* for new controller)Remote modules (i.e. Ethernet/IP remote I/O) are also deleted :smileysad: Take a look to the screenshot to see what could be changed during the conversion.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thank you for your help :) No problem... :smileyhappy: Thanks for your positive feedback ! :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: IO Redundancy in ControlLogix System How can I configurate ControlLogix System with IO module redundancy? ### Assistant: This could be accomplished through the usage of the following Termination Modules: 1492-TIFM16-F-3 1492-TIFM40F-24-2 1492-TIFM40F-F24A-2 There are two main publications that explain the SIL2 system and Fault Tolerant system. Using ControlLogix in SIL2 Application SIL2 System Configuration using RS5K subroutines The second one, gives reference to another publication, 1756-AT012, but this isn't available at this moment... edit: 1756-AT012 is available for download In order to have the special routine developed by Rockwell Automation and indicated in the above publications, I suggest to contact your Rockwell representative, they will give you the program and the documentation needed.That is the only way to get the program, it is not available for download directly at the moment.The name of the application example should be SIL2_IO_Fault_Tolerant_V4.acd Here a LINK to Worldwide locator for Rockwell Automation offices... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Msg.DN bit always on after the msg instruvtion executed Hi all, Please advise if we have to reset the message done bit after the message instruction complete successfully? As my message done bit was on and I was doing multiple msg instructions, and unable to run the msg instruction repetitively unless I reset the done bit. Thank you ### Assistant: Do not set or reset the /DN bit; it is for indication and status only. The /DN bit comes on when the MSG is complete, and does not turn off again until the MSG is re-enabled. You'll have to post your cascading message logic if you want comments on it. You should not have to manually change the state of the /DN bit. Dear Mr Ken, Please advise on my attached program. Thank you Just put an unlatch over the MSG instructions.In rung 1 an OTU (unlatch) of Msg_Group.0 and in rung 2 an OTU of Msg_Group.1 And delete rung 3 and 4 because they are crappy :smileywink: In this way you will trigger the MSG instruction whenever you trigger the 2 bits. Dear Mr Ken, Thank you for your advice, as we have to monitor the msg done/ error status before proceeding to the next msg instruction, currently, this is only a small portion of my test code, actually going to have around 60 over msg instructions and will assign each message group to trigger 6 msg instructions. e.g. message grp 0 trigger msg_0 to msg_5, upon completion goto message grp 1, trigger msg_6 to msg_11. I saw this example program from the manual: logix5000 conrollers messages Thank you Oh, I see, you're the same guy asking about messaging to the PowerMonitor 3000, which has quite a lot of Assemblies. I don't have the time to dedicate to this right now. Maybe somebody else has some iterative logic they would like to post. Do you have to execute only 1 message at a time? Depending on your PLC, you can do multiple messages at a time. You may be able to execute 1 at a time within each of the 10 groups, therefore, executing 10 messages at a time. Is what your messaging time critical? If so, doing multiple MSGs at a time will help. What is different within the MSG instruction between each MSG? For example, if you are only changing the Path or the Attribute, you could accomplish this by using one MSG instruction and when no longer .ENabled, load MSG with new parameters and execute. Hi, I'm sort of executing 3 msgs at a time to read the parameters L1,2 and 3 current from the E3plus module,as the 4 Devicenet input assemblies have been all assigned. Total about 24 E3 plus modules, hence assigned two E3 plus modules to a group - 1 group running 6 msgs. After group 0 finished executing, move on to group 1, then 2 ..... untill finished goes back to Group 0. As I'm new in programming, please advise if I'm going the wrong direction. Thank you All, Grouping the messages and sequencing the groups is the right way to go. However, you need to be aware of how Logix handles Message instructions, especially regarding caching and unconnected buffers. A search of the KnowledgeBase using the phrase unconnected buffers will be most helpful. I found what looks to be a very useful article with sample code for sequencing messages, KB #39998. I don't have time right this minute, but a search of message cache would probably net other articles of interest. Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Counter 1734VHSC24 by Devicenet How to configure the card 1734VHSC24 to read the value accumulated by DeviceNet. I can not see the total. ### Assistant: Hi, useful informations are available as a Word Attachment in Aid 24322 Anyway, first thing I suggest to check is the Message Type you're using with your module...default is COS, and within this message are the Stored value at the time of some specified event, like rising edge of Z input... POLLED would be preferrable.... it contains the Present Value (current count value). See the screenshot..... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Product Notice 2009-04-001 and 2009-04-002 - PowerFlex 700 Regarding Product Notice 2009-04-001 and 2009-04-002 - PowerFlex 700 NEMA 12 AC Drives: I purchased on 2/1/2008 a powerflex 700 drive PN: 20BD292A3ANNNNC0. I read the article in the knowledge base, and did not the drive listed as having the fan defect mentioned in the product notice. Can you confirm whether or not this drive has the fan defect? If so what is the replacement kit part number? ### Assistant: For the Product Notices you mentioned, your drive is not listed to have this problem, so you shouldn't be worry about that. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic That is what I suspected, thanks for looking in to it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Multiple of a given number I have a application that I will need to trigger a output when a counter acc value is reached based on a multiple of a given number. For example.. Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 1 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 0 Ect Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 0 Ect I can do this using various compares but it seems bulky. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks... ### Assistant: It looks like your multiple may be constant, if so, then only use the counter to trigger on the multiple. If the multple is always 2, then reset the counter after the multiple has been hit. If you need to count the total, use another counter to add up the CTU.DN bits. Use a tag instead of just a number for the multiple so it can be changed from an HMI, etc. If the multiple is variable based on a particular product then some logic can be performed to set the multiple based on this product. Obviously there is some criteria for determining the multiple in the first place, and if it's always 3, for example, only count to three, set the .dn bit, reset the counter and start over. Hope this helps. Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 1 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 0 I suppose I'm missing something here. How do you figure the output is true when Number =3 and Counter.ACC = 4 ? If you do end up using a truth table, remember that you only need entries for comparisons that evaluate true. Thinking about your original question a little more, I think I understand it better. You're trying to figure out if an Accumulated Value is a multiple of a variable. Maybe it's a batch size, or a case count. If these values are Integers: Divide the Accumulated Value by the Variable Value, and store that as a Result1. Multiply the Result times the Variable Value and store that as a Result2. If Result2 = Acccumulated Value, then there was no rounding or truncating in the division, meaning that Accumulated Value is a multiple of Variable Value. Hey Ken, In rereading my post ..I think I stated my problem poorly. What I need to do is toggle the output each time the multiple is reached. Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 0Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 1Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 1 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 0 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 6 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 6 Out = 1Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 7 Out = 0 ect... The Number is loaded from a recipe and represents the desired layer rotation. Rotate ever other, every two, every three, ect.. The .acc value is the placed layer count. The operator can enter/change the .acc value as need to account for problems with the stack so I need something that is pretty dynamic. Thanks for the help with this guys, From your second set of tables, I'm sure the question is making a whooshing noise as it flies by my head. If you wanted the Output to be true every time the Accumulated Value equals a multiple of the preset Number, I'd expect this: Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 1Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 0Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 1 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 0 Number = 2 Cnt.acc = 6 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 1Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 6 Out = 1Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 7 Out = 0 Lol.. If it were only that easy. No it is just like the tables state..Each time the mutiple is reached i need to toggle the output state. It still seems you can use one counter since the multiple between counts is constant (either 2 or a 3,etc). This multiple can be an integer (DINT) tag and is populated by the operator from an HMI. Upon reaching the count, set the .dn bit, increment another counter for the first layer (or whatever) and when all layers are reached, reset both counters. Of course, I'm only lucid for short durations and maybe missing something, too. Well I am having a hard time getting my mind to grasp this..Ok say the number is 3 and say the operator says the stack count is 7.So we should have the table below.. Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 6 Out = 1Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 7 Out = 0 My first counter would need to have a preset of (Number) 3..My second counter acc would at this point be 2...So I need a way to take the 7 the operator entered and distribute it to the proper counters... Now my head hurts... Is the 3 the number of items per stack? Actually, if the number was 3, then the truth table would actually be: Counter #1 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 1 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 2 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 3 Out = 1, .dn bit set, increment counter #2 to 1, reset counter #1Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 4 Out = 0 Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 5 Out = 0Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 6 Out = 1, .dn bit set, increment counter #2 to 2, reset counter #1Number = 3 Cnt.acc = 7 Out = 0 This would go on until Counter #2 reached 7, and then both counters would either be reset or wait for some action from the operator to reset the layers. Try this: No..The 3 is the number of layers in the same direction. HHHVVVHHHVVVThe rotaional is controlled by a single solinoid valve. On is rotated..off is not.. There are typically 18 layers to a pallet. So say the rotate count is 1 we would get.HVHV If the count is 2..HHVV Ect All this while stacking X layers. Once X is reached I eject the pallet, load a new one and restart the count. The way I do it now is to look for the odd layer and rotate. This works as long as the interval is 1.Using this same method with 2 say gives me.HHVHH I know it should be fairly simple...I just cant quite get my head around it. Thanks, It really doens't matter...either way you're still counting. Whether it be horizontal, vertical, or number of layers. You're still counting a predefined amount per horizontal, per vertical, per layer. Once you count the number of layers in the same direction (1, 2, or 3), the counter .dn bit signals time to rotate. One rotation may signal 1 layer. Each rotation signals another layer. You have to remember that the counter .dn (done bit) is set when the .acc reaches the .preset. The accumulated value starts at 0 which can be made to start at 1 by incrementing the counter by 1 immediately after the reset. When your layer gets to the target value; i.e. 18 layers, then the counter is done and ready to eject. Ok I can see that but..if the layer needs to be clear out for some reason. Say it was layer 11 and the op removes that layer and changes the count to 10. Now my time to turn count is not correct. I am thinking I need to translate the 10 they have entered to the appropriate count (/ number).. So if I am rotating ever 3 layers...my time to rotate count would be 1 if the count is 10..correct? I'm sort of following you but this will require some logic external to the count logic. Give the operator the permission to remove the layer, but not alter the count. Once he removes the layer, tells the HMI he's removed the layer, have the logic in the plc to automatically reset the count to what it should be. Once he confirms he has removed the layer, automatically rotate the to the next position. It seems you only have two positions, horizonal (H) and vertical (V). If you remove one, then the only option is to rotate once. You can decrement the count by subtracting a 1 from the counter's .acc value, rotate the pallet, and you're set for the next layer. First off I want to say thanks guys for all the help with this..I used Kens code example and it works very well as long ans the op does not change the Main_Counter.(1-18) If they do the Layer_Counter gets off. I am thinking I need a way to corrolate the main counter to the layer count..any ideas? Thanks The main counter is just a totalizer for the layers. There's no control off its .dn bit and its preset isn't used anywhere in the logic. This is just a long shot but I'm assuming the operator has to enter two criteria: how many in a row (horizontal or vertical), and how many layers on a pallet...right? Once these are satisfied via the counters, the pallet is complete. The Main Counter increments when a layer is complete. If you need 18 for completion, then use the .dn bit to issue a completion. Also, in most applications, we don't allow operators to change parameters on-the-fly. He should have to finish or abort that particular palletizing before changing....makes life a lot simpler. BUT...knowing that it may need to be done, it would be prudent to have a confirm button for the operator to press. He presses the button, a confirm bit in the code goes true and copies the value from the tag HE entered into the tag YOU need for a preset. Using this you can tell that a change has occured instead of the op entering straight into the tag you're using for the preset. Any input from the operator can be buffered this way by giving him the input tags to enter data into and when he presses the confirm changes button, it copies them into the tags you need. Also, allows you the opportunity to deny any changes until a pallet has been aborted or finished. I know this is lengthy, but there's a lot of ways to skin a cat (southern cliche) and it seems you're on the right track to nailing this down. All, The MOD instruction gives you the remainder after division by a number (2, 3, etc., in this case). If your counter accumulator MOD 3 = 0, you're at the switching point. A simple toggle rung fired off that condition should suffice. Perhaps these rungs will do: EDIT: Removed bad image link. Please add images as attachment instead. - JHutch I used to code toggles and one-shots from XIC/XIO/OTE/OTL/OTU back in the PLC-2 days because there were no ONS instructions. The OneShotStore ensures the logic only happens when the accumulator transitions to a value that is a multiple of the given number (MOD == 0). The LatchedHV bit is true if the first branch turns on HV (toggle false to true) and prevents the second branch from immediately turning HV back off. The second branch accomplishes the toggle true to false. Sometimes geezer-code comes to the rescue! Let me know if the above helps. You may need to add some logic to set HV where you want it when you reset the counter. Dale, W8ABZ Sorry, see if I got it right this time. Dale, W8ABZ Hi, Dale, not really to start to do the Moderator job here... :smileytongue: just I suggest you to edit your image attachment and resize it to a width of MAX 500 pixel (scale it) so that it will not create troubles in reading posts for those who have some limited screen resolution. - fuzzy logic Hey Guys,I decided to use the MOD function and toggle logic and it seems to be working very well.I want to thank all who provided input and suggestions..Rob n"}
{"text": "### Human: Security Settings in FactoryTalk on touchscreen. Here's what I have. We have touch screens in a couple places on the factory floor for quick adjustments to conveyor and gate settings. (It's a potato warehouse.) We don't want just anyone walking up to it and change these so I need to set security settings to the screens. We have a server that our touch screens are clients to and pull files directly from the server. From what I have read, you have to log in as a specific user when launching the SE Client to use the security features for that user. You can't have them logon/logoff while it's running and switch users. So my delima is, how can I allow a group manager view and adjust their screens as well as the floor manager view and adjust theirs without closing out the SE Client and logging back in as another user? Is this even possible?? ### Assistant: twohowlingdogs wrote: From what I have read, you have to log in as a specific user when launching the SE Client to use the security features for that user. You can't have them logon/logoff while it's running and switch users. This statement isn't correct :smileysurprised: You CAN switch users at runtime, I suggest to read User's Guide (chapter 5, page 5-7) from which I've extracted the following screenshot. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy. I'll use this and let you know if I have further questions. Paul n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation for RSBizware FactoryTalk Transaction Manager Actually We have installed Historian Classic on a server, the configuration is ready and working the problems is when I push the PLAY button in the Bizware FactoryTalk Transaction Manager the software send me the message The product has not been activated and has been operating without activation for a grace period of seven days. The grace period has now experied. after that I click on the OK button, then another message appear on the screen This application will run in Demo mode, limiting your configuration to 10 tags for a duration of 2 hours. This application will not run in Demo mode on computers that are running RSBizware. after that I click on the OK botton another popup appear with a confirmation I click on the OK botton and the service get ON. We have installed and assigned the activations: FactoryTalk Historian 5000 Tag, RSBizware Single User Runtime Activation, RSBizware Unlimited User Runtime Activation.In The FactoryTalk Activation Tool I can see the activations: Hist5000.exe, Histauth.exe, RSBWRTSU.EXE and RSBWRTUL.EXE. What kind of solution do you think apply in my problem. Thank you. ### Assistant: Hi, first I have to say I'm not an expert on this.... :smileytongue: anyway, just trying to give some help.... It seems to me you'll need an Activation for Transaction Manager.... (something like RSSQLPRO.xxK or RSSQLSTD.xxK).Otherwise you have only the Embedded Version of the software...it could be not possible to use it as you need... :smileysurprised: See the screenshot.... taken from Transaction Manager User's Guide... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: attaching barcode scanner to ML1100 Hi Ladies and Gents; I would like to attach an rs232 barcode scanner to a micrologix 1100 plc. does anyone have any expierence with this. I assume that I could attach the 9 pin dsub connector from reader to the 1761-cbl-ap00 cable and then to mini din port on controller. Am I assuming correctly????? thanks Danny ### Assistant: You have to configure the serial port of your PLC to ASCII protocol, then you may use the cable indicated, just I think you will need a Null Modem adapter (i.e. RadioShack) to get it work; this is because usually the barcodes use DCE interface, serial port of Micrologix is DTE. To connect DCE to DTE devices, use a straight through serial cable.1761-CBL-AP00 is a Null Modem type cable, so you will need the Null Modem adapter. :smileysurprised: There is an useful technote to test your ASCII comms (Aid 48429) it is made for CLX, but I think you may find it interesting also for MX1100.Aid 20727 is done for Micrologix 1500, and could be interesting, too. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thanks Fuzzy, you are the best. I have dones tons of ascii type programming on GE Fanuc controllers and thru Panelviews but this is my first direct connect. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 897H Galvanic Isolator Application is Class II Division II: Using 440K Trojan 5 in hazardous area. Using 897H-G231 Galvanic Isolator in Non-Hazardous area. I have one wiring diagram that shows using 6.8K resistors in series with the safety switch contacts. I have another diagram that shows a safety switch and the isolator without resistors. ### Assistant: Sorry! I forgot the question if not obvious. When are the resistors necessary? If the input is coming from free-contacts (floating) then you may use the resistor to identify Short Circuit or Open wire conditions... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compact Logix5000 to GE Fanuc Robot Program Examples W/ethernet Im looking for some programming examples using ethernet for a compact logix5000 PLC controller to a GE Fanuc Robot. Can anyone help?! Thanks, ### Assistant: It could be useful for the users who have had some experiences with Fanuc and Ethernet/Ip, to know the Robot type and model to better help you.... :smileywink: From Logix side, I can say you will need to insert a Generic Ethernet/IP module in your configuration, but about the Assembly Instances and Size to be used, best way is to contact GE Fanuc Support to get the right values. As an example on what you need, you may take a look to this thread; it is referred to ABB, but you require the same data to get it work. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The robot that we are controlling is a Fanuc M410IB! We are a fanuc integrator, I am attempting to add the config window in an attachment. Once you have it set up in the I/O tree, you can access the robot I/O just like any other I/O in the controler tags. This setup is for 16 input words, and 20 output words. The size can be adjusted to what your app requires Thanks for the information! I just have one more question. How do you figure out the (input)(output)(Configuration) instance for the generic ethernet module. I read online something about an exclusive output path number. Where can I find this number on the Fanuc robot. If I had this number, then I could figure out the instance for all that I need. Any information would be helpful. Thanks, The instance data came from the Fanuc manual. That configuration should work for all fanuc robot modles as long as they are of the newer software version, 6.?? +. Thanks for the info! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation Names Explained Is there a list, grid, etc. that explains what each activation ties to? For example, when I go into the Activation Tool and visit the Current Activations tab, I'm presented with an Excel-like listing with the following entries ... AC.DDROKAC.SERVERAC.TLK1000Arena12.bltArenaBas.tpoetc. ... I'd like to understand what each of these items relate to. ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 48155 ... there are some .pdf attachments with 2009 Toolkit Contents, showing the Product Key code and the corresponding software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you. Rockwell Automation Toolkit Contents - 2009.pdf was what I was referring to. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC FW Upgrade I am trying to upgrade the firmware on a SMC drive but can't seem to get it going. Drive Explorer will connect to the drive but won't read the new firmware version and I don't see the SMC on Controlflash. Any advise? ### Assistant: I guess you're talking about SMC Flex.... :smileytongue: Did you already check for upgrade instructions HERE ? Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Sorry, I guess I didn't give you enough info. I havee these upgrade files but Drive Explorer won't recognize the file format and Control Flash won't accept the Cat # for the drive. I'm resonably sure that this is not an outdated drive since it was only installed 3 years ago. Which error (if one) did you get using ControlFlash ?Did you try to install latest version of Drive Explorer ?Did you also try to upgrade using HyperTerminal ? Be aware to upgrade your communication module at least to the indicated minimum versions before trying the update of your SMC... :smileysurprised: May you also post the cat # of your SMC and Current Firmware version ? - fuzzy logic The cat# is 150-FS1FX and the FW is 4.004. I didn't get an error message from Control Flash, I believe Drive Explorer is the latest version and I just downloaded the latest driver for my comm module The cat.# indicated is the one of the Internal Control Module... the complete # should be something like 150-FxxxNxxx .... :smileysurprised: Anyway, please complete your request with more details... you just gave little parts every time...the more effort you put in your posts, the more help you can expect to receive... :smileywink: So, we don't know which is the cat.# of your communication device, we don't know its firmware, the version of Drive Explorer, the error or the point where Drive Explorer cannot continue, a description of the steps you make using ControlFlash and where you find troubles, if you have tried with Hyperterminal, some screenshots of your tests... :smileysurprised: All this just to try to help you better... otherwise it become so difficult to understand what happens at your site... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I'll spend some time on it as soon as I get a minute. Can't seem to catch up. Thanks for the help anyway.The light just came on. I'm at home working with the control module and not the complete drive so the #s won't match up. Is it possible that I can't do this without the whole drive? doesn't make sense to me but you never know. Hello again. I've got a few minutes so I'll try to fill in the details.The drive cat# is 150-F201NCD FWVer. 4.004Drive Explorer FW Ver is 6.01.27 LiteI can communicate with the drive in Drive Explorer and also upload and download the parameter values loaded in the drive. The problem comes when I try to download a saved file. For some reason the app.bin and appupdate files come up as not a recognizable file typeIn Control Flash I can't get past the first screen where it asks for the cat#. When I load the # into the drop down menu box and hit next I get no response.I am not familiar enough with Hyperterminal to give you the info you need.Thanks for your time. Talking about Drive Explorer, the download saved file action is NOT the one to use to flash the SMC...:smileysurprised: You can get to the flash functionality of Drive Explorer by first selecting the device to flash on the left hand pane. Then select Device Properties (under Explore, or depress the blue circle with a lower case i in it, on the toolbar). On the Properties pop up screen, select component details tab,select flash update. The file to be used is the one downloaded from Support site coming with ControlFlash. See the Screenshot.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you. It's nice when you know the ins and outs of the program. As you can see I.T. is not my first line of work. One more dumb question though, Where is the green solution button?:smileytongue: :smileytongue: It is visible right under the Kudos! button, only for the user who has started the thread (here is Joseph) ... Don't worry for that, a Moderator could provide this for you.... thanks for the positive feedback. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Versa View Problem My Versaview HMI monitor has gone blank.If the HMI is rebooted, the monitor comes on briefly displays OS startup progress but goes blank shortly after therefore making it almost impossible to do troubleshooting.If the power supply is removed from the HMI for some time (eg. 1 day )the system will reboot, start the application and display process information however the problem will occur after approx 5mins after startup. Subsequent reboots of the HMI will see the HMI monitor going blank during OS startup. This is the Integrated Display Computer (Touchcreen) Catalog ### Assistant: Connect an external monitor to verify if there is a problem with the video card. If the external monitor shows video, then the problem is with the VersaView monitor. If the external monitor does not show video, then the problem is with the video card.Either way, the unit will need to be sent in for repair with an explanation as to whether the problem appears to be with the video card or with the monitor. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic When the display boots up, does it display the touch test results or is it configure to NOT run full diagnostics when booting? It can be configured to run full diagnostics when booting and I have seen a bad touchscreen cause intermittant problems or display problems when booting. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Embed a hyperlink into RSView32 graphic We would like to embed hyperlinks in our RSView32 graphics to our O&M manuals on our webserver. I can use appstart to open IE to it's home page but i cannot figure out how to get IE to open to a specific webpage. I have tried embedding word documents with hyperlinks but the hyperlinks are just text when the project runs. I have tried using APPSTART to start Internet Explorer with an argument pointing to the specific webpage i want but when IE opens it cannot reach the page. The argument seems to work it is just that the path seems to be a bad format. The IE error message has a lot of ///'s and %20 symbols. (I am guessing the %20 symbols fill in for spaces.) any ideas? Thanks, Andy ### Assistant: Hmmm...that's strange... :smileysurprised: I've tried Appstart to launch IE and to open either a WWW page or an .htm document on my desktop without problem...did you ? Maybe the problem is to go through webserver ?!May you post an example of your command line ? - fuzzy logic I am using the Appstart with Touch as well. At least that is one of my strategies. Anyway, my code for the touch action is: Appstart C:Program FilesInternet ExplorerIexplore.exe NetworkstoragewebUV SOPUV Index.html /r When i test run the Touch command the result is: Internet Explorer opens then tries to navigate to the webpage but instead returns with the The page cannot be displayed error. And in the address bar of Internet Explorer the page IE was attempting to navigate to is displayed as:http://%22//NetworkStorage/web/UV%20SOP/UV%20Index.html%20/r The Appstart works great if i always want IE to open to my homepage. But i was hoping to open IE to specific pages depending on which graphic the user is on. Thanks for the help. Andy Try the following and see if works: Appstart C:Program FilesInternet ExplorerIexplore.exe NetworkstoragewebUV SOPUV Index.html That say, just remove the quotation marks... I can reach my network drive using this syntax... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Works like a dream. It looks like part of the problem was the /r . Without the /r the quotations don't make a difference. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Network Protocols We're buying a FactoryTalk system from an integrator as part of an elevator remote monitoring project. Our network services group needs to know about the network protocols used for IP communication between the FactoryTalk servers (with FactoryTalk SE Server & RSLinx Enterprise), the PLCs in the field, and the FactoryTalk SE View client workstations - e.g. does it multicast (we hope not). They also need to understand the nature, size and frequency of the messaging between the PLCs and the servers. I haven't been able to locate this information on the website. Can you provide it please? ### Assistant: I'm no expert, so I recommend contacting TechSupport (either through Chat or Ask a Question in the Knowledge Base), but I do know there is a little of both types. When RSLinx tries to discover what's out there, broadcast messages get send out. Most targetted comms between devices will be normal IP specific (ie, it won't be seen by other devices on a switched network). And I seem to remember some rare multicast types of comms, but nothing specific. Under most circumstances, the vast majority of traffic will be IP specific and shouldn't affect the rest of your network in a normal subnetted/switched environment. JHutch Thanks J, but I don't know how to ask a question in the knowledge base and I don't yet have a tech-connect account (since we haven't accepted the system from the integrator yet). Could you forward my question on to the right people please? Jim Ethernet/IP is the protocol running your rockwell system which is actually using the CIP (Common Industrial Protocol) specification. Basically, TCP/IP with the exception it is running at a higher level on the OSI model than traditional TCP. Search for document number ENET-TD--1B-EN-P which is Ethernet-To-The-Factory 1.2 Design and Implementation Guide which will cure your insomnia for the networking stuff. In the automation environment, the lowest level (Level 0 and 1) is the control level where your PLC's reside and communicate to higher levels (level 2-3) where your servers and HMI's reside. An ordinary network switch will pass the Ethernet/IP without any problem straight out of the box. The problem is on a business network, most office apps are unicast where in the PLC world, I/O actually use multicasting. It's imperative to use managed switches at the control levels to utilize IGMP Snooping to segregate this traffice and keep it off any business network. This is a VERY condensed version of what's going on but basically the TCP protocol uses various ports...some are standardized and some are not. There are 65535 ports. RSLinx Enterprise uses TCP Port 44818 to communicate with PLC's. The operator station communicate to a FactoryTalk Server. The operator station or client, is directed to the FactoryTalk server by running the FactoryTalk Network Directory utility. As stated before, a typical network switch will pass the Ethernet/IP without any problem. Where IT gets involved is when it gets connected to the business LAN. In this case, managed switches should be employed as best practice to minimize the unwanted traffic and for security reason. Have them take a look at the document I mentioned above and hopefully this will answer some questions. If you still have questions, give us another shot and we'll do the best we can... Also, while I can't forward your question to TechSupport for you (contracts and money involved ;) ...) I can virtually guarantee that the OEM you are purchasing from DOES have access to TechSupport and can get that information for you. JHutch PS fordtt gave some excellent information, too, and the manuals in the Literature Library (http://literature.rockwellautomation.com) should help, too. Thank you so much! Your information and the document you sent me to were great. How about for the protocol between the server and the HMI? Is there anything there for the IT business LAN organization to worry about?Jim Not really. RSLinx Enterprise mostly uses port 44818 so if there's a firewall or router in between they have to make sure this particular port is open. The HMI client uses the FactoryTalk Network Directory setup to know where the server is and it uses the computername so if you're a part of a workgroup and not a domain, you will need to add the computername to the HOSTS file in the WindowsSystem32DriversEtc folder. Other than these standard networking items, it's works well. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Toolkit CPR9 SR1 RSLogix 5000 v17 Hi, I notice that CPR9 SR1 installation for RSLogix 5000 v17 doesn't have the option to install previous versions of the product. If I installed CPR 9 first can I installed v15 and v16 after it. Thanks Julio D. ### Assistant: Aid 58175 - RSLogix 5000 software included in the 2009 Rockwell Automation Toolkit Anyway you may install previous versions after v17 installation. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV600 on Devicenet to compactlogix How do I set up the alarms on the PV600 to use the value type of trigger using devicenet? I have the trigger tag set up as value and the alarm messages are set up with each having its own numeric value. I did this on another system but it uses DH485 instead of Dnet and it works just fine. Is there a trick to reading a numeric tag across Dnet that I don't know about? ### Assistant: I guess you're talking about PV Standard... :smileysurprised:I did not understand where you have problems / errors .... :smileysurprised: Anyway, try to see the screenshot... I've defined a trigger of type Value, an Output tag address (from Dnet scanner) and the alarm messages... Take also a look to the Devicenet Communication User Guide for PV. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Dancer Control with Kinetix 6000 What would be the easiest way to control Dancer position in a web handling application using the Kinetix 6000. The Kinetix drive rotates an Unwind spindle. I have dancer position feedback to the Logix 5000 PLC. There is no feedforward signal ( Line Speed) so Pure PI control is what I am planning to use to correct the dancer position. Thank you ### Assistant: Would it be possible to put an encoder style dancer on there? You can use Dual Position Servo mode, then just set the position of the dancer that you want to maintain and the drive will automatically control the speed of the unwind to keep the dancer in the right position. If you can't do that you'll have to bring the analog in a PID instruction and use the output of the PID to control the speed of the kinetix drive. You could just operate the unit in Velocity Loop mode only. If it's a 0-10v pot style dancer you could also use an Ultra3000 and use the built in Analog Speed control input. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix Autotune Heat/Cool zones Has anyone used autotune in a PIDE loop where the CVEU is -100 to 100, and 0-100 represents heating and 0-(-100) represents cooling (this is an extrusion application)?I had hoped that I could give autotune a negative step change setting and make it work in the reverse acting mode for the cooling control. Tech support says negative changes are not allowed.Just wondering if anyone has done something similar. ### Assistant: 2Brad, Have you considered using an SRTP instruction to do the split-range setup? You could output 0 to 100 from the PIDE into the SRTP, and have it generate whatever ranging you want for your heating and cooling outputs, including an overlap (both on low) for smooth transition, or a gap (both off) for a deadband to minimize utility usage. Autotune would just have to be run in both regions of output -- somewhere above 50% and somewhere below 50%. Then either sequence the gains into the PIDE based on region, or select the more conservative gains for use at all times for stability. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ Is there a way to allow the operator to enter a negative number for the output in manual mode? What I'm looking at is similar in that it is a heating/cooling operation that runs between -100 and +100% output, with heating from 0 to +100% and cooling from 0 to -100%. I want to allow the user to enter a negative number for the output to force the cooling on, however the help on the PIDE block states that the .CVOper and .CVProg can only be between 0 and 100%. All, As far as I can tell from the Instruction Help, the PID and PIDE both use a CV range of 0.0 to 100.0 (percent), and both provide for scaling the CV to other units AFTER the point where you want to enter it. So the operator via the faceplate can only enter 0.0 to 100.0. You can set CVEUMax to 100.0 and CVEUMin to -100.0, so it will output what you want, but the operator will see it as 0.0 - 50.0 - 100.0 rather than -100.0 - 0.0 - 100.0. You'd have to wrap the PIDE up in an AOI or add logic (scale instructions?) to convert the user entry from -100.0 .. 100.0 to 0.0 .. 100.0. and convert display values back the other way, then aim your HMI data entry/display fields at the new logic. I don't think the cascade master function will help either. A cascade primary sends its CV to the cascade secondary SP, so its CV would ideally be in units of the Secondary PV/SP. But the PID/PIDE use percent for CV, then scale to secondary SP units AFTER. Again, operator sees 0.0 to 100.0 -- which is THEN scaled right before going over to the secondary (inner) loop. Sorry. At least, that's how I read it. You'll have to check the Instruction Help or the Instruction Set manuals to be sure. In RSLogix 5000, click Help | Online Books. If you're in V16 or V17, on the left-hand bar, click Instructions. The PID is in the General instruction set manual, approx. p. 497. The PIDE is in the Process/Drives instruction set manual, approx. p. 64. Best Regards and Good Luck,Dale, W8ABZ 2Brad29, Sorry, it helps if I read your question and actually attempt to answer the right question! The format checking looks at the field after EVERY character you type, not just when you click Apply. - is not a valid number, so you can't type it as the only character in the field. Same thing for a decimal point. Type the digits, then left-arrow back and type the minus sign last. Then click Apply and it will take the number. The decimal point is even more annoying. It'll flag the number as bad, but Apply will take it. Not a very friendly numeric entry field.... Dale, W8ABZ this document may help. Just search the literature library. I have several extruders and follow this basic approach for heat/cool works well. ra-ap015_-en-p Rich n"}
{"text": "### Human: 2760-SFC1 Protocol Catridge Manual Hi, Does anyone have a copy of the 2760-SFC1 manual? The 2760-SFC1 is one of the catridges that plugs into the 2760-RB module. I have been unable to locate a copy and it appears to be out of print. Thanks. Regards Alex ### Assistant: User Manuals for the Protocol Cartridges (2760-SFC1, 2760-SFC2, 2760-SFC3) are NOT available in electronic form. :smileysad: You can order User Manuals by contacting your Distributor or Rockwell Automation representative. User Manual for 2760-RB is downloadable HERE .... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply. I have contacted my local Distributor who in turn contacted Rockwell Automation. But it has been more than a month without any success. Alex n"}
{"text": "### Human: Setting motor nameplate RPM on Powerflex 40 Is it possible to adjust the motor nameplate RPM and/or motor poles in a Powerflex 40? The parameters do not appear in the user manual. ### Assistant: Just to confirm you that PF40 has not this possibility. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1797-IBN16 module gives error code 16#0118 - module configuration reject,format error ### Assistant: The module located in remote rack through controlnet links. last year we upgrade the system to CPR7 series, there is one fault message create in recently .I don't kown why ? Did anybody make some mainteinance on these remote I/O recently ? It has been verified that bent or recessed pins on any of the bases of Flex I/O bus can cause this problem... Here a suggestion from Ken Roach in a recent post: :smileytongue: When I troubleshoot FLEX problems, I tear down the whole chassis and inspect it carefully. I keep a flashlight, dental mirror, and magnifying glass in my toolkit specifically for these kind of connector inspections. Another possibility is related to a module substitution recently made at your site,with a module firmware or hardware different from the original configured, so that it isn't possible for the system to configure it... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic It can be an issue after upgrading from version 13 to a recent version like CPR7.The module profile can be wrong. They mention such things in the KB for certain modules. n"}
{"text": "### Human: LOGIX MSG ERROR 16#0001 EXERR 16#000_0204 Looking for some help. I am trying to do an slc typed read message in a compact logix to a slc 5/05 op501. I always get the subject error code. I have tried to message from another control logix system and get the same error. I can message from another 505 to this slc without any issues, and I can message to another slc from the compact logix. I am currently getting the info I need this way...This is not how I want to leave this. Has anyone seen this before? ### Assistant: Basically this is related to a timeout over the connection you want to establish between the devices... First, make sure the SLC is either a Series C or later, or firmware 5 or later. Either one will do. There are MANY technotes on this error, just I want to indicate you some of them... Aid 50924 - error descriptionAid 35243 - most like your issue :smileysurprised:Aid 48115 - similar issueAid 31122 - msg example for your hardware Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I am going to have to upgrade the processor. It is an old firmware version. Thanks for the help. No problem.... ...and if you would like to click Kudos! over the my post you've also marked as solved would be greatly appreciated ... otherwise, never mind ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: AB 1336 plus drive I am upgrading a cooling tower control system and my system is enabling a 1336 plus vfd for start/stop and speed control for the tower fan. I need a reference manual to reconfigure the drive to take a 0-10 vdc signal versus a 4-20 ma. Any ideas where I can find this? ### Assistant: Here we are.... :smileyhappy: 1336 PLUS User Manual1336 PLUS II User Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi, try the AB Literature Library with 1336 plus as the search. great place to find AB manuals http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/public/documents/webassets/browse_category.hcst?tabChoice=Products&xLanguage=EN%20-%20English fuzzy logic beat me to it. (docs are from this library) Hi 69FIREBIRD, curious thing is that we both have run to try to help and give an answer to the user who asked it, and he also ran….ran to sign out without leaving any feedback, any message, solution, kudos, thanks, disappointment,complain… just nothing…. very nice ! :smileymad: Oh, maybe he will come back to complete his thread in future...:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Now, now... he may have just ask the question on the way out the door. I usually wait at least a day or two before I start muttering under my breath about ungrateful people! ;) JHutch Hey JHutch, do you think I may start now to muttering under my breath about ungrateful people ? :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Sometimes I can't go online even using crossover cable on a 5/05- othertimes I can't save program I am having a problem with a 5/05 processor. I just replaced with a brand new one on Monday - so that isn't it. Sometimes I get a red X and can't even get online. Other times I can get online, but then can't save the program. Sometimes no problems at all. On Monday I tried to back up the program before replaceing processor with a new one and couldn't get on. Then tried direct using a crossover cable - no luck. Any ideas? ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communicating via modbus between two Micrologix 1500's ? ? I am currently fixing to begin working on a project that will consist of three MicroLogix 1500 PLC'S. Two of the PLC's will be controlling their own compressor skid. While the third PLC will be set up as a site controller, telling the other two when to run or stop. My question is, how do I set up the PLC's to accept communcation via a RS-232/485 cable? And how does the MSG commands work on the micrologix? Or would it just be easier to do a register to register? Sorry for all the questions I am just not familiar with the MicroLogix, I tend to work more with the SLC 5/04 -5/05's. ### Assistant: Hi, there is a technote that may be useful for you.... Aid 25463 ...:smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for the technote that will be usefull. The customer has since re-designed their layout so instead of talking between the two micrologix 1500's. I will be talking straight to a wonderware SCADA desktop computer. So is there any reason why I should not be able to use a lantronix type device to convert a RS 485 signal into a 232 signal, so that I may then go into the printer port on the deskto? Or should i just run a B&B type device that accepts two 485 comms and turns it into one 232 comm out? Open to other suggestions also. Thanks for the help. Hi, If your going down the rought of the NET AIC's why not just do it all over DH485. 1 at the PC (serial port to serial port) and one at each of the MLX's (which ever cable config. you want to go) then you can easily message and poll to your hearts content (within the limit of DH485). Clean and easy for the next person to see what was done. Sorry for the communication lack of experience but dumb question incoming. :smileyhappy: So you are saying that I can go point to point without using any other device? I will have a total of 3 PLC's pluse the SCADA desktop PC. The PC will only be pulling the information to display on that local screen. I will need to communicate with all three of the PLC's. So how would the cable config. be set up? That is what i am confused on. How can I set up the layout to be able to communicate between all three PLC's and still be able to pull the data into the SCADA desktop? Once again sorry for so many questions, I am sure it is easier than I am making it out to be, but I am just lost on the communication part of it. Thanks for all the help. Hi, had something like this in mind: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1764-um001_-en-p.pdf (1500 User manual page E12 - network layout) and also see http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1764-um001_-en-p.pdf (Net AIC user manual) So I'm promoting using relatively cheap NET AIC modules to set up a DH-485 network for the PC and MLX1500's Hope that clarifies my option. Thanks for all the help everyone! I am going with the AIC modules. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Need assistance with Micrologix 1500 and PTO control It may seem that I am trying to get someone to do this for me, but that is far from true. I have just been thrown into a project that was first started with an Automation Direct PLC and the customer requested that the tech that was doing this project be pulled. He is no longer with us now. I have since taken over on this as of this week and just got the Micrologix 1500 in so we could just use the PTO instruction to control this. Thing is, I am going nuts here trying to figure this out. Does anyone care to assist me with how to direct the outputs to control a Stepper motor. The wire diagram looks pretty straight but I still can not get the correct function. I even downloaded the sample from Tech Connect and still could not get it nor do I understand yet. I just need to be pushed correctly and can really use the help getting started. ### Assistant: JHutch - While I understand your frustration with Rockwell Automation, I have to ask you to keep your comments on topic. Complaints *while* staying on topic are ok, but snide comments just for the sake of snide comments will be removed going forward. ok, your first mistake was to replace the automation Direct unit. The second is using a micrologix. may i ask why you decided to not use the DL unit (what unit was it and what stepmotor are you using) The reason for not using the Direct Logix PLC was a request of the owner as they already have a standard and with their AB Tech Connect contract, I can understand why. The Micrologix was chosen because it has the PTO for a Stepper motor. The Stepper motor is a SureStep model that they are ok with as it is from Automation Direct. How does one assign the outputs to be triggered? I thought it was all done in the PTO data table and I can see my outputs come on and my pulses go to the setpoints, but the motor never moves. I do not have access to an O-Scope to verify the pulses, so I am kind of stumped. I am using the 5vdc and the 0vdc from the power supply to run the outputs as this is what we did with the AD system. Gig, it seems strange to me you have problems getting pulses out from a MX1500, as PTO configuration is quite easy.... :smileysurprised: The Technote you've mentioned is Aid 17444 ? The output is selected in the PTO table (you have to write in 2 or 3)... just be aware the High Speed outputs have to be powered with 24Vdc (otherwise they will not work ! ), and then you will need a resistance in series to keep the voltage to 5 Vdc for your stepper controller. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Hey Gig, attached is a MINIMUM config for your PTO tests.... as it is configured to a frequency of 2 Hz in the example, it could be possible to check if works using a tester or a normal 24Vdc lamp... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps…LET ME KNOW ! - fuzzy logic Well fuzzy, Thank you for helping me pull my head out of my butt as I should have know better than that as it is a widely concept that all A-B's only have a +- 3% vdc. I can not believe I over looked that. I am going after the 2200ohm resistors this afternoon and will report back. I also must have really had my head far as I forgot all about the histogram and it does show the pulses in it for O:0/2 in a pretty clean scale. Just for the record, I still can not believe I overlooked this and you make me want to scream about now!!!!! LMAO and thanks. I will close this on Friday once it proves you were correct.... AGAIN Just an Update, I was able to use a Fluke Meter and catch the output voltage correctly. I will bring in a scope on Friday along with the resistors as I do think that fuzzy is my HERO!!!! n"}
{"text": "### Human: SCP Parameters for MLX 1500's Hello all, I have a quick question. Usually i am dealing with SLC 5/05's so bare with me. I am using a MLX 1500 and I am setting up a PID loop. I know in the SLC you scale the process variable scaled min to 0, and scaled max to 16383. And the output scaling is Input min = 0, Input Max =100, Scaled Min = 6242, and Scaled Max = 31208. My question is are these the same for the 1769-OF8C Analog Current Output module for the MLX 1500's? Thanks for the help... ### Assistant: You may find the informations you need either in User Manual page 4-33 or technote 48255 Hope this helps…:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy.. So I gather from the Technote 48255. That my output scaling: Scaled Min = -29822Scaled Max= 29085 Compared to the Output card 1746-NO8I. Scaled Min = 6242Scaled Max = 31208 thanks for the help n"}
{"text": "### Human: 0x80004004 Failed To Load Data Server I'm getting the following error in the Event Viewer/FactoryTalk Diagnostics Viewer ... Failed to load Data Server 'RNA://$Global/KML/HMI:TEST' on machine 'MYCOMPUTERNAME' (result = 0x80004004). ... I've built a small SE (Network) application using memory tags, no devices involved (yet). Everything is running from my machine: FactoryTalk Directory, HMI, etc. I dug around the Knowledgebase but did not find anything referencing 0x80004004. Any ideas? ### Assistant: I've resolved the issue ... after a restart or two, the problems no longer appear ... go figure. See? There's a *reason* why techsupport's first question is usually, Have you tried rebooting your computer? ;) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSlinx fails to connect to PVP 1500 I have a terminal that I am trying to get online with the rest of my companies network. I am trying to go through a Panel View Plus 1500 (firm 4.00.03.60(CPR 7)) to three SLC 5/04 on a DH+ network. I am connecting to the PVP via ethernet via company routers. I have several other terminals that I started this way and as they see the benefit they move to either an ethernet based processor or enet card if possible on the other plateforms. Over all this is the current set up. I can ping the device on the local net as well as when I am three hours away at another terminal. During these times I am able to connect to any number of other devices at other facilities including another PVP1500 leading me to believe its not a firewall issue. I have followed the knowledge base notes checking the 11 steps but found nothing to correct the issue. I have checked and re check IP configs and device settings. Nothing sticks out. In RSlinx when using RsWho the device comes back with Comm Error 01E00204 but the browser says it found the device. Is there a capatibility issue between pvp firmware cpr7 and my RSlinx 2.52.00.17 (CPR 9) Any help would be greatly appreciated. ### Assistant: I'm not sure I follow, Emmett. You don't *use* RSLinx Classic to talk with a PV+. RSLinx Classic RSWho will often show the PV+, true, but with all the router jumps, you might not be getting the response back from the PV+ in RSWho. For a PV+, the only thing that will communicate with it is RSLinx Enterprise. If you're having trouble in that program, then it's a different story. JHutch JHutch, I understand that you can not communicate via RSlinx classic but typically I use it more of an easy way to see if the link between devices is established. Normally you can see the PV+ and drill through its back plane to see other devices and such. In this case I eliminated as many variables as I could and went to the terminal in question and plugged into the switch that the PV+ is plugged into and still had the same results. The ping time from their remote control room is less the 1ms so latency should not be an issue. From this same switch I can contact a terminal 120 miles away and remote edit a PV+ 1500 terminal there. And I tried RSlinx enterprise this am and it also did not link when I was at a remote site. I did not try it locally though. Sorry, Emmett, but you've just discovered why *we* don't use RSLinx Classic for that! Basically, sometimes it works ... sometimes it doesn't. RSLinx Classic was never designed to work with those devices so sometimes you get erratic behavior (and then sometimes it flat out doesn't work at all). JHutch LOL... Yeah I have had that happen a few times using new technology with old devices. For a solution to close out this post could you tell me what would be the best solution. ie using RSlinx Enterprise or possibly a more reliable solution. Yeah, RSLinx Enterprise. If that doesn't work, then it's something configured wrong in the PV+ or a bad unit. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML1400 enet to PV1000 Can a PanelView 2711-T10C20 PV1000 Color Touch, FRN 4.20-4.xx communicate with Micrologix1400 via ethernet?(There are no selections for this processor at the PV32 comm configuration menu) ### Assistant: I've done ethernet to a ML1100, so it should work just fine (I vaguely remember some new data types in the 1400, so those won't be supported though). To work with the ML1100/1400, you can select a SLC5/05 as the processor type. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk ME - Best Practice? Hi, I have also posted this on PLCs.net (http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=47048), but have not really had any joy or solid responses. I was hoping I may get a bit more here? :smileyhappy: I have an application that has been causing the customer some issues with Memory Low warnings. From what I am aware, this is becoming a regular occurrence. I went through a process during commissioning 7-months ago to negate this, and dealt with Tech Support quite intensively. Their recommendation was to upgrade the terminal to the next model. The current model is a 64/64, we are looking to go to the 128/128 model. It is my understanding that this issue is to do with the way the terminal caches data when cycling through screens. The RAM use goes up. What I am not 100% sure of, is will the increase solve the problem? In this document, (http://www.rockwellautomation.com/knowledgebase/) it says that there is a process limit of 32MB, and adding more RAM will not solve the problem. Can anyone shed any light on this. The other option, is to try and re-work the application, but where to start is the main issue. There is currently 203 parameter files. There is only 1 placeholder in the file, with the popup screen constructing the rest of the UDT from this placeholder. Most (95%) of these are only accessed from the same screen, but the screen that uses the parameter files can be accessed from any of the 25 screens. Reading through some tech notes, it says if the same parameter file is accessed from multiple screens, then it will add to the memory usage. Is there a theoretical limit to parameter files? Is there a way to achieve 'popups' without the use of parameter files, or to make the application more efficient? I have looked at global objects, but from what I can see, they are more for re-using the same object on multiple screens, not for performing the functions that I am trying to acheive (simple popups). The Plan B I am looking at, is to create a popup for each of the parameter files (200). This will reduce the 'caching' that is happening, but I am not sure how much this will 'grow' my application, and whether the current terminal size will handle it.? I will do some testing today hopefully, it is a lot of extra work, but if it works and the problem goes away, then I guess it is worth it. (edit: So much for work as there is no 'find & replace', the Tag substitution function only allows for single objects, quite consuming, expecially with app. 10 tags per popup!!) One of the original 'application size' issues that I had was due to the amount of HMI tags. I went away from HMI tags where I could to direct referencing, this halved the application size, and direct tags update faster than HMI tags as well. As I was beginning the process of converting from Parameter files to individual 'popup' screens, I was beginning to wonder if this would actually solve anything? I am basing the 'memory low' issue on the fact that it is the parameter files that are causing the problem, not the no of screens. Last time I was on-site, it was quite obvious that the operators were cycling through the screens quite often, but the no. of popups they were accessing was not great compared to the no. of screens they were cycling through. In a technote/PV+ manual somewhere, it does say to cycle through the screens during development to avoid these types of issues, I did do this, and did not notice any issues, but then I wasn't operating the plant in production environment! Any thoughts? ### Assistant: I'm running a little short on time, so I scanned through your post a little quickly, so pardon me if my answer is not 100%. Are you doing datalogging on the terminal? Did you use uploaded bitmap files? Are you doing alarm history on the unit? If yes to some or all of those, you NEED the 128mb unit. All of those functions really chew up the available ram on the unit. Look into this and respond and hopefully I'll be back on later or someone else can respond. I have found that when I am faced with applications that push the envolope that it is easier and less costly for both you and the customer to recommend a PC based HMI. This would save in reprogramming, allow future upgrades as well as more reliable customer support. Unless your customer's enviroment is extremely harsh the PC should solve the problem. If you wanted I could throw your customers application on one of my spare PC based ME terminals and see if the problem is duplicated. This would give you a solid trust that it is a memory/processor issue and not a limitation in software. PM me if your interested. n"}
{"text": "### Human: About the Fault68 of 700s Fram9, change a new drive,the new drive yet occurred F68,What should I do ? ### Assistant: Did you double check all the connections and fiber cables ? Aid 34899 See also attachment... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to enable Pass-Through for RIO Standard PanelView terminal I'm not so familiar with PV. ;(Thanks ### Assistant: Which is the passthrough you want to realize ? :smileytongue: Anyway, you have to enable it in the Configuration Mode...see User Manual page 78. Aid 17588 has an example of a passthrough from Ethernet (SLC 5/05) to RIO Panelview. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Sending Email thru 1756-ENBT I'm trying to send email thru an 1756-ENBT, which I have partly done. As of right now I am only capable of sending emails thru our facility network. For some reason I get a general error in my message instruction when I try to send an email off of the grounds. I followed the programming code in the 1756-ENBT manual and it works great when I'm sending an email in house. Am I missing something in my code, parameters, module setup or is the IT department possibly missing something at their end. Any ideas would be great, thanks in advance. ### Assistant: I also think it could be something *wrong* with ENBT setting, or IT department issue...:smileytongue: Double check your settings following Aid 30937 .... - fuzzy logic IT is looking into the problem. I looked at all the setting for the ENBT module and they look correct. No luck yet! I was getting a 551 relay denied message. This ended up being an IT problem. IT corrected it at their end and it's working great. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Control Logix Produced/Consumed behavior on connection failure What happens to a consumed tag when the connection to the producer is lost? Does the tag simply maintain last state? Or go to 0? Or what? ### Assistant: The connection to the Producer will Timeout with an error, the Consumed Tag will mantain the last received value. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DeviceNet current consumption Hi, I'm looking for devicenet current consumption for some of our products like E3 plus, DSA and Powermonitor 3000. I've used the Integrated Architecture to build the network and is able to get a current consumption report, but did not manage to find the powermonitor 3000, did I miss out anything? also I've been looking at the manual also cant find the information, Thank you ### Assistant: Powermonitor 3000 consumes less than 100 mA from Devicenet power supply. See Installation Instructions page 42 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Dear Fuzzy logic, Thanks a lot ! Do have a nice day : ) n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747 sn COMM LED is always flashing red when configure RIO with PanelView550 touch I used the samples in Dementrations of Panelbuilder32 to configure SLC RIO with Panelview through 1747sn. The LED is always flashing red on 1747sn module, and there is error msg in PV: No PLC communiction. I could not found any wrong settings in SLC and in Communication settings of PanelBuilder32, and there is no other wrong for wiring. I have successfully configure PLC5 RIO with this panelview. I also tried the attached projects in Knowledagebase ID: 19934. There is same issue Is there anyone help me to check this? I was realy frustrated about this issue. :(, if you want to see the SLC and PV projects, you can contact me with email Thanks & best regards. ### Assistant: Which is the LED you mean ? :smileysurprised: I guess the COMM led, see the error description attached.... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy logixBefore I asking help here I have checked the attached descripitons. I could not found other wrong settings.I used the applications in Knowledagebase ID: 19934. Could you help to check this? I really appreciated for your help. Attached are the settings for my SLC and PV550 The only difference between the projects in 19934 and my projects are the hardwares, I used PV550 Touch to instead of PV550 Keypad & Touch . The SLC projects is running well and the COMM led is always flashing red on my 1747 SN. The pv alwasy shows: 665 No PLC communication. Also, I successfully configured SLC RIO with PV+ through my 1747 SN, and successfully configured my PV550 Touch RIO with PLC5. I'm really confused why it is failed to configure RIO between my PV and SLC. JHutch - Divided image (too large to see it all) and attached the SLC RIO settings in a second post below. It seems to be correctly configured…. Are you sure about Network Baudrate setting into the –SN module ? And the Cable Connections… ?If you want to send me by mail your projects (PV and SLC programs, not those in the technote, just YOUR files) I will look inside them (not having too much time, but I will try)…I have sent you a Private Message here in the Forum with my e-mail address… - fuzzy logic Which is the firmware version of your RIO PV ? And the SLC series, rev., OS, firmware.. It seems there are some problems with communication, I may suggest to create a new PB application, configuring only Discrete Tranfer (no Block Transfer) and the same for RSLogix500, a new application, without BT, just the G file configured as PB RIO is configured. If there are other devices on the network, remove them...leave only SLC and PV. The fact is that the COMM led should be Green, if Baudrate – cable – settings are correct… you HAVE to obtain this, and after that you may try the BT transfer. - fuzzy logic Hi,Fuzzy logixMany thanks for your helpI have fixed the issue. The cable for RIO communication between 1747 SN and PV standard should be same as the DH+ cable. It's very intresting. This is my first time I knew RIO communication has different cables.The cable for RIO communication between 1747 SN and PV+ is common RIO cable(Point1 and Point2 are changed).Cable for RIO communication between PV standard and PLC5 is common RIO cable(Point1 and Point2 are changed). Nice ! I was suspecting something on the cable connection...:smileytongue: Yes, the connection is different for PV attached to a SLC -SN scanner, it is indicated in the User Manual, page 187.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic The second half of 198171's image. This covers the SLC RIO settings. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk Problems I upgraded to the latest release of Factory Talk and have had no end of trouble since. Anytime I try to open the tag database it says An error occurred while attemptingto open the tag database editor. The program also has a tendency to lock upmaking a reboot necessary. How do I fix the tag editor? ### Assistant: Try to follow indications in Aid 34108 ... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Import Fix32 Application to RSView32 or Factory Talk View Is there one tool for import Fix32 application to RSView32 or Factoty Talk View? I saw the faq 48494, but one final costumer our claims to have heard this from another integrator system. Is it possible or not? Thanks. ### Assistant: Yes, it is true. :smileyhappy: There is a tool, available to Distributor , Strategic Providers or Rockwell employees (Application Conversion Utilities) that can convert only graphic files and database files from iFix - it does not convert VBA Please contact your distributor or Rockwell Software representative to get this conversion; they will ask you to send some of the application files and will send you back the converted project.The process will take about a week to be done. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Line voltage monitor relay 813S-VOB Can I use a 480 Vac, 3 phase, 60Hz, line voltage monitor relay (AB part number 813S-VOB) on a 440Vac, 3 phase, 60Hz application? The specification states +10%, -20%, 3-phase, 60Hz, +/- 1%. Thank you for your time.jerry ### Assistant: Yes, the specification you've indicated are in the catalogue and are correct. Minimum voltage should be 384 Vac as per these specifications... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS500 to CLX 5000 backplane to ETH module to 1761-net-eni to micrologix 1200 Heres my story. I have a micrologix 1200 attached to a 1761-NET-ENI connected to a hub thats connected to a ethernet card in my CLX 5000 rack that is designated for the local network. Now when I use RSLINX to get online with it I come in through a ethernet card on the rack thats connected to my plant network, go through the backplane out the local ethernet card and out to the micrologix. Now RSLINXS see this path and show the micrologix. But when I use RS500 to get online all it shows is a error RS logix devlopment problemand wont go online. Any ideas. ### Assistant: I believe your problem is your sending RS500 data thought a non RS500 backplane. The back plane might not allow the connection even though RSlinx may see the device as RSlinx can communicate with RS500 and RS5000 devices. Try going ethernet from the hub to the Micrologixs device directly and not through the CLX backplane. I think your error should be eliminated else you will have limited the devices that could have errors. I have a couple of applications in my plant were we go into the CLX 5000 rack with a Ethernet card and out DH+/RIO to a couple of SLC 500s and RS500 can online with those. What version of RS500 are you running? Can you upload or download to the Micrologix? I found some old tech notes but they apply to version 5&6 of RS500. I would still try to go directly into the Micrologix via the hub. If it works you know you have an issue somewhere with the CLX. It will also allow you to check to make sure nothing is hanging up in the software. You know how Rockwell Software sometimes does great things, like not work when you think it should. What version of RS500 are you running? Can you upload Also something to think about. If your going into the CLX via a ENET card and then back out on that same ENET card does it run the backplane? When you do the hop from ENET to RIO/DH+ it would. I'm not sure if it changes anything. Maybe Fuzzy or Jhutch can comment. Maybe this also. Answer 35633 Hey mommy, nice to meet you again here in the Forum ! :smileyhappy: Beside all the suggestions from Emmett... may you please post RSLogix 500 and RSLinx versions you're using ? Also, it would be nice to see a screenshot of your error... Did you try to go online on the Ethernet where your -ENI is connected as suggested ? Any error ? It seems more like a RSLogix problem than communication problem...Try also what is suggested in Aid 8487... this has worked fine for me in the past :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I located a plant network hub in the same cabnit as the local hub so I moved the NET-ENI module on to it bypassing the backplane. Works just dandy now. Thanks for all the help. Nice ! :smileyhappy: Anyway, just for reference, I've been succesfully to go online with a Micrologix Controller in an architecture like yours :smileysurprised: PC - RSLinx 2.54 - Ethernet - 1756-ENET ser. B - CLX Backplane - 1756-EN2T on another separate Ethernet network -1761-NET-ENI - MX Using RSLogix500 v8.00.00, all works fine (up/download,online edit, etc.) :smileyhappy: Maybe there is something related to the path length to reach your controller through backplane and Ethernet/IP module... there is a similar issue explained in THIS post.... edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Version Issues with Microsoft Web Control and View SE (v5.00.00) Hello all - I am having issues regarding version mismatches of the Microsoft Web Control (shdocvw.dll) between our SE Server (Server 2003 machine) and our SE Clients (Windows XP machines). I have an SE display with the Web Control embedded. When displayed on the SE Client, the control is hashed out (unable to be displayed). In looking at the Diagnostics Viewer on the Client, I initially had the following errors: Unable to load ActiveX control for display Reports.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: Newer file version of ActiveX control required.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: CAB file missing on the server http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB. I was able to determine that the version of shdocvw.dll on the SE Server was 6.0.3790.4470, while the SE Client was 6.0.2900.3533. Because this is a critical file, I cannot simply overwrite it with the newer version, as Windows XP automatically restores it to the previous version no matter what I do. In researching the issue on the Rockwell Knowledgebase, I came across this answer, so I followed the instructions to create the shdocvwdll.cab file. I also altered the IE Security Settings per the recommendations. Now I receive the following warnings/errors: CAB file downloading from server to setup ActiveX control http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB.Microsoft Web Browser: CAB file downloaded from server to setup ActiveX control: http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB.Unable to load ActiveX control for display Reports.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: Newer file version of ActiveX control required.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: Problem setting up ActiveX control(s) using file: http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB. Has anyone encountered this issue before? I have had similar issues with other controls in the past, but have always been able to update them on the client PC to resolve it. Any suggestions/guidance would be greatly appreciated. ### Assistant: Usually it is possible to solve this mismatch (where the used ActiveX on the Server is newer than the version on the Client) following what is indicated in Aid 38414Your case could be more difficult because of the OS difference between Server and Client.A collegue of mine has solved as follow: You have to edit the display containing the ActiveX with View Studio installed in a machine that uses the same OS as your client machine (XP).So make a change to the ActiveX, save the Display, close it.... reopen it, just undo your changes to ActiveX previously done, save again and close.Now you have to copy the modified Display on your Server (now it is using XP version of ActiveX)... *Add component into Application* and all the system should work...:smileysurprised:Remember you have to do this every time somebody will modify this Graphic Display on the Server....:smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hey Fuzzy - as always, thanks a bunch for the response and suggestion. This sounds like it will work for me. I will try it in the next day or so and report back! Thanks again... Hi, any news ? :smileywink: Did you test it ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Hey fuzzy - actually just implemented it yesterday and it worked perfectly. Since we have a terminal server, I had to have 2 separate screens, one for Server 2003 clients and one for XP clients. When the reports link is clicked I use an API call to determine the client's OS, and then display the corresponding screen and web control. Like you recommended, the key was to create this new screen for XP while running Studio on the XP client so that I could reference it's version of the Web Control. Thanks again! n"}
{"text": "### Human: In 1397 AB make DC Drive, how to switch off the field voltage while the DC motor is in stop mode... Presently, in our DC Drive-Motor system when the DC motor stops, the field voltage is continuously coming 220-230VDC.. I need to switch off the field voltage during the DC motor stops..And the field voltage gets on when DC motor starts.. So i need to know which parameter(s) in 1397 DC Drive had to set for the above need..Please help me... ### Assistant: The field voltage should only be removed when the main power is removed. See the following note from the manualBypassing any field fault parameters will negate the safety of the installation. ATTENTION: It is imperative that the Drive NOTBE STARTED with the field windings in theun-powered condition. Failure to follow theseprocedures may result in a machine malfunction and/orpersonal injury.The output voltage and current of both the enhancedfield supply and the regulated field supply aredetermined by the values contained in set-up parameters Take a look at tech note where it mentions Field Economy when the drive is in standby. This reduces the field voltage to keep the motor from baking while it's not running. You'll need the Regulated Field Supply card installed....not sure if this was an option or not. here is a link to the .pdf associated with the field supply card.... See if this is what you're looking for.... OK...not sure where my embedded links went but the technote number is 28643 and the .pdf of the field supply card is 1397-in006_-en-p.pdf in case you want to search for it.....I'm just miffed my links aren't here..... 'Take a look at tech note where it mentions Field Economy when the drive is in standby. This reduces the field voltage to keep the motor from baking while it's not running. You'll need the Regulated Field Supply card installed....not sure if this was an option or not. here is a link to the .pdf associated with the field supply card.... See if this is what you're looking for....'http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/1397-in006_-en-p.pdf Hi fordtt, here the link to the technote 28643 :smileywink: I don't know why you have problem with the links....:smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix5000 Data Preserved Download Tool Ver. 1.2 Trying to get this tool to work. When I run this app. this is what happens... -Successfully attached to RS5000 process pid[4368] - Validating task completed result [ERROR] . Unable to obtain controller information from project file. -Update process completed unsuccessfully. This tool is what I have always dreamed of. If it would work I would be a happy man. ### Assistant: Be sure to validate your application before trying to use it (Verify Controller); your program must be checked for errors... If you still have problems, try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 54946 - Aid 55070 - Aid 54357 - Aid 55881 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Verified controller...No errors, but some warnings.Read the technotes...nothing really helps for this error. Hmmm… so, may you please add some infos? RSLogix5000 versionRSLinx versionCPU to download to Did you try *normal* download ? Does it work fine ?Did you try the tool with another project ? It seems difficult for the tool to retrieve infos from your project file… - fuzzy logic So, I tried several machines.I go online, then start the Data Preserved Download Tool, and get the error. I tried normal download and it works fine. One thing I noticed, though, I don't get a prompt for the Data Preserved Download Tool, as I should, before downloading. (I have it selected)Other stuff: The Data Preserved Download Tool.exe is not under my Tools taskbar in RSLogix5000 application. Nor is it in RSLogix5000 Tools in the Program Menu. I found it in C:program filesrockwell softwareRSLogix5000 tools folder.RSLinx ver. 2.54RSLogix ver. 12, 13, 15, 16......Have ver. 17 but havn't t found a machine cpu with 17. Maybe this only works with ver. 17 ??? HERE IS A LOG FILE: 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - RSLogix5000 Data Preserved Download Tool v1.4 build 2289 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - Machine name: D-IBC-013295 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - Logged in user name: terry.larsen 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - RSLogix5000 project name: L_ResistanceWelder_6252F.ACD 2009-05-19 06:54:46,859 WARN - Successfully attached to RS5000 process pid[3280] 2009-05-19 06:54:47,437 WARN - Validating task completed result [ERROR] . Unable to obtain controller information from project file. 2009-05-19 06:54:49,719 WARN - Update process completed unsuccessfully. Thanks for your help. The prompt from this download tool will come after the first validation phase...It has to work also with version v13 and later... Maybe a bad installation... try to remove it from Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs and after this,use the MSI Cleanup utility... please refer to this post, made by fordtt (thanks to him... :smileytongue: ), the last part about using MSI Cleanup utility... (use it with attention...! ) Then reinstall it again and see what happens... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Uninstalled and reinstalled. Couldn't find msicuu2.exe anywhere. Tried on RSLogix ver. 15 and 16. Same error :smileysad: Hey larsen, download it from HERE ... give it a try... uninstall the tool, use it and reinstall... - fuzzy logic Same results....I give up. Seems like some flakey software to me. Maybe needs some more debug....and instructions....it does'nt do what the read me text document claims. I'm afraid for that.... I suggest to call in Tech Support .... maybe with a one-to-one call they can better help you on that....:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 and PowerFlex Drive communication Can RSView32(or other HMI) read/write PowerFlex Drive Parameter without controller over Ethernet/IP? ### Assistant: Yes, it is possible using PCCC object.... see this technote (35328) where you may find an example made for Panelview Plus (View ME) ... a similar solution could be realized in other HMI software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 2711-KC1 compatibility ? We had customer send 2711-KC1 for repair. After repair , 2711-KC1 can not read 2711-NM12 memory card. The 2711-KC1 is series F, Is this cause by compatibility or the Memory card interface was malfunction ? ### Assistant: Not really... your PV should support this *old* Databook card... see Aid 11343. - fuzzy logic It should work. Since it isn't, something broke. Could be a card went bad, interface slot may be bust in the new terminal, file may have gotten corrupted on card ... JHutch Had try 2711-NM12 had project inside and can read by other 2711-KC1. What ever the 2711-NM12 with project or 2711-NM13 empty , both appear can not recognize data in the memory card ( Not very clear remember the message). So, as pointed out by JHutch, there is evidently a problem with that -KC1 unit.... I think you have to send it back to repair.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Thanks a lot. I will send back to repair and make comment on this sympton. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel View Plus 1500 - Memory Capacity Critically Low - Error I have a Panel view Plus 1500 that has been in service for over 2 years with the same program that recently started generating the following error message - memory Capacity Critically Low Performance May Be Affected. Any suggestions? ### Assistant: Pls delete some unused files in storage cardRockwell SoftwareRSView MELogs folder, such as datalog, alarm, etc. It would be great if you could reboot the terminal. Good suggestion from Tim .... :smileyhappy: In order to delete unneeded mer, log and font files, go to Terminal Settings from the RSView ME Station configuration screen then select File Management and then Delete Files. Select the type of files you wish to delete. Also, set to delete log at powerup from PVP configuration mode... Follow these instructions to set this option to Yes in the PanelView Plus:Go to configuration modeMake sure the application is loadedSelect Terminal SettingsSelect Startup OptionsSelect FactoryTalk View ME Station StartupSelect On Startup > Run Current ApplicationSelect Run OptionsToggle Delete Log Files On Every Power Cycle to YesHope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MLX 1500 Maximum Number of PID Loops Hi, we have a project coming up that will require control of 16 solid state relays that in turn control 16 heating elements. (blowmolding machine upgrade) The existing control (1980's Barber Coleman) uses PID loops to control these and we will do the same. My question is how many PID loops can a MLX1500 accurately control. I do recall someone saying that 5-6 was the maximum but when I set up a test file their appears to be no limit. I think I would prefer to use a Compact Logix 1769-L3x processor so I can do all comms / HMI via Ethernet and have the resources of a higher level processor for the control / data. So any excuse to that will enable me to spec the Compact Logix processor is of help. Your feedback please. ### Assistant: The max number of PID instruction in a MicroLogix controller is not a fixed number but dependent upon several factors such as available memory, scan time performance, and type of process(es) being controlled. Obviously, the more PIDs are scanned in logic, the greater impact on scan time and memory resources. In fact, the impact does not just affect PID performance but potentially all other logic as well. One program controlling relatively slower processes may support significantly more PIDs than another controlling faster processes. The CompactLogix controller is limited in the same way as the MicroLogix controller but may provide better performance due to greater and faster system resources. You may want to consider contacting your local Rockwell Automation Sales office and arrange for something like a try-before-you-buy. This may allow you to determine if either platform is sufficient for your application or if one is a significantly superior choice. Hi, Sorry for not replying sooner - read your reply when posted and never got round to saying thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1791-8AR Is this module still available? And if not, do they have a replacement for it? Thank you, ### Assistant: Yes,it should be still available, although the 1791 Compact block i/o has superseded this range. You could consider a 1791R8B8P unit it is half the price ( and size ), although you would need to wire some interposing relays on the outputs.The only configuration would be the dip switches n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769 ASCII Module Can anyone offer any advice or even some sample code for programming the 1769 ASCII Module fitted to a Compact Logix L32E. I have no knowledge of this item and basically struggling to communicate with my remote batching unit. All I need to do is send on batch quantity out to this unit. If any sample code is available please send to francis.price@virgin.net Many thanks ### Assistant: I'm sending you some examples by mail.... :smileyhappy: Let me know when received.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Frank, my suggestion is to use an example like the one in Aid 32056 to test your communication. Create a new RS5000 application and use the example logic to test the ASCII communication using your PC and Hyperterminal. (Aid 48429 has example on Hyperterminal use, it is related to the serial port of the controller, but anyway should be a guideline for you)The Ladder file called Output is used to send the string out the serial ASCII port to hyperterminal. Destination of the data is starting from output word 8 of your ASCII module... see User Manual page 3-2 to understand this output image. After you have this done, you may better understand how it works and use this knowledge to complete your application. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MAS EN bit set, must be manually cleared I have had this happen a coulple times,(Logix 5000 v16) I think on power up, the axes won't respond to the stop command. I noticed that the EN bit was set and wouldn't clear even though the rung was false and toggled several times. I go into the data table clear it and everything is good. I'm wondering if I might have something wrong in my logic that would cause this. Has anyone run into this. ### Assistant: Did you check the status of the other instruction's bit (ER - PC) when this happens ? May you also post your controller type, series, rev. and firmware ? - fuzzy logic Check that the tag for the MAS instruction is only used once.Also check that you do not jump over the MAS instruction when not enabled. I looked back through my notes from when it occured and I did document a few things that I hope will help. The Motion Control tag is only used once. the Controller is a 1756-L63 rev 16.7 it has two M02AE cards driving 3 3rd party analog drives. This did happen on power up, after the safety circuit was reset a home sequence is started for all 3 axes they start jogging until they reach the end of travel limit at which time each indiv. MAS shoud stop it's respective axis, it didn't they blew through it and faulted out on the hard stop, since the instruction never saw a transition, it was already enabled. This is when I found the following:All 3 MAS .EN bits stuck On, .ERR = 11(not assigned to motion group or module), .FLAGS bit 25 & 31 On, .ER bit not set. When .EN bit cleared FLAG bit 31 when Off. It has been powered off and on since then and comes back up and works fine. I think the other time I saw this was on an entirely differnet machine but I think with same processor and ver 16 but with Kinetix drives. I'm concerned that if this happens in the field there is no way they are going to recover from it, so any thoughts would be appreciated. You may want to review tech note 41735 in the knowledge base to see if this effect your system. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connect laptop with PLC 3 Hi there,can you tell me how I can communicate with PLC 3 processor with laptop.It seemed no this kind of cable directly connect with 9 pin port of laptop to 25 port of PLC 3 procesor.Do I need to buy a cable and a communication module ?Thanks ### Assistant: Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 16376 - Aid 7665 - Aid 41418 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy.But those links always show this message: Not Available At This Time This answer may be getting updated, or it may only be available to TechConnect support contract holders (see answer 50871 for details). This is because you have to have a valid Tech Connect contract to see them... If you want to send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e.mail address , I will send you back some infos... - fuzzy logic Removed comments that have nothing to do with present discussion. JHutch Derek GG, Not sure what software you're using, but I can help with the pinout. The 25-pin connector on the PLC-3 (and on the S4A, S4B, etc.) is a DTE pinout (even though it's a female DB-25, which is usually a DCE). TXD = 2RXD = 3com = 7 A lot of the A-B cables use 3, 14, 18 and 25, but those are for a non-RS-232C-compatible long lines communication (twisted pair) -- also handy, but not what you need! The port is also RS-232 compatible using the standard pins above. Your 9-pin on your PC is TXD = 3RXD = 2com = 5 So your cable needs to be DE-9 female DB-25 maie 2 2 3 3 5 7 If you have a standard 9-pin to 9-pin straight serial cable, plus a 9-pin to-25-male adapter and some gender benders and a null-modem adapter, you can find the combination that will work. PLC-3 port pinout is documented (among other places) on page 16 of pub 1775-um003_-en-p.pdf (S4B scanner manual), available online at literature library. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: missing features PV+ ME Hi, Am I missing something or there no command buttons where we can set multiple commands or functions on a button. For example: Press a button call the login function and then display a graphicPress a button set a tag and close the window There are other features that I which where there like touch animations. We are actually missing the true macro functions that are available on the other RSI HMI applications Thanks ### Assistant: Unfortunately RSView32 / ViewSE commands are not available in ViewME/PVP... :smileysad: Also a generic Button object where you may set multiple commands is not a feature of ME. Only you may use what is embedded inside other Objects, for example a Close Display button has the possibility to set also a value to a Tag on close.... :smileysurprised: Touch Animation is not available in ViewME, too... :smileysad: See Aid 36745 for Best Practices on various ViewME features.... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy, I was been ironic I knew options where not there but I forgot since I haven't used the RSI products in a while I am just surprise that they have the same limitations since 3 years ago. I am also finding the Update of the screens slow I have the PV+ 15 with 128MB of memory. I am using some bitmaps and I did some test removing them from the app but I don't see a difference it is still slow. Thanksjdelgado Ok... :smileyhappy: About the Update of the screen... are you using Ethernet/IP or something else ?Do you have many tags on the display ? Do all the displays have the same issue ?What about the Tag Update Rate you've selected ? Apologize to ask too many things... :smileytongue: Also, some indications about this in Aid 36811... - fuzzy logic Good Morning Fuzzy, Yes I am using Ethernet/IP ( CompactLogix), I need to export to check the tag count of the screen but I will say 50 - 80 tags. Yes all display have the same issue. I change the update rate to half a sec and it updates like in 1 to 2 sec if I leave it to 1 sec it takes like 3 - 4 secs to update the screen. Like I mention if I remove the bitmaps from the screen I don't see a different which in one way I am glad. But 1 sec update is fine with me I am suprise that setting the graphic to 1 sec took 3 - 4 secs and setting it to half a sec takes 1 - 2 to update. I attached the main screen work in progress....which is the busy screen the rest of the screens are not busy just simple popups and few screens for maint to see the inputs and output status Nothing to apologize, thanks for taking the time to discuss this with me. Hi, at first a suggestion for attached image…it is difficult to manage this big image on some screen resolution (like mine ! :smileysurprised: ), so I suggest to edit your previous post, remove the image, resize it to about 500 pixels width and re-attach it. Attached an example , not so clear as yours, but enough to understand… THANKS. :smileywink: Then, about the issue… Use Direct Tags instead of HMI tags to get fastest response (unless already done) – Aid 36270Use On Top display (I guess you’ve already done this)You have to consider the Update rate of the tag PLUS the screen update time…this is the why you have update rate set to half second and really you see updated tags every 1.5 second… - fuzzy logic Thanks good tech note about the HMI Tags vs Direct Tags. I am using HMI Tags because of the Folder Structure I have multiple machines so it easy to organized that way. The reason we recommend direct reference tags whenever possible is because HMI tags add a lot of extra overhead. Basically, an HMI tag goes this route *every* update: 1 - Object asks HMI tag for a value. 2 - HMI tag looks at tag address and asks processor for the value.3 - Processor responds with value.4 - HMI tag multiples the value by the scale.5 - HMI tag adds the offset value.6 - HMI tag hands the value back to the object. In contract, the direct reference goes *this* route: 1 - Object asks processor directly for the value. 2 - Processor responds with the value back to the object. Now imagine doing that for many tags multiple times a second ... It's easy to see why direct reference tags can give a nice performance boost. (NOTE: They also use less memory in the PV+, too, which can be a performance boost, too.) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: factory talk local directory How can I load a different factory talk local directory without having to restore an application? We have several different machines with different user names and passwords. If I don't do a restore first then the old local directory writes over any project I open up. Is it possible to just restore the local directory? ### Assistant: Using FactoryTalk Administration Console tool. Open it w/ Local option -> under system folder in Explorer, right-click Backup... (make sure you have proper user/password). -> save this *.bak file Copy this bak file to other machines, open FT admin console, under Local(root) folder in Explorer ->right-click Restore... -> select the *.bak which mentioned above. -> click Next and Finished. After restored, it will prompt to enter User name and Password. Isn't this just another way of restoring an application without having to use the application manager? I was hoping there was something simpler that maybe I was missing. A button that would let you just use the username and passwords from the project when you opened it up without having to restore the project if you have worked on something else. This way is only able to restore the system folder of FactoryTalk directory. No need to use Application Manager. you'd better know the username and passwords of FT which you are going to restore.. My bad, when I hit backup I was on the project name in the explorer tree and not the system folder. This worked, thanks. I am able to log on using the same logon for windows. I don't have to remember the usernames and passwords in the project it seems. Is this correct? Sure, it supports the windows Anonymous Loggon.:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV Plus Maintained PB Reset I would like to know how to reset the maintained PB on the PV Plus touch terminal if the drive it is controlling trips out. When selected on the PB changes state and I want this to return to the off state if the drive trips, I would also like to have this option to reset all PB's from the PLC on a first pass instruction. Any help greatly appreciated as I have only a small amount of PLC knowledge and this has got me lost. Many thanks ### Assistant: At first you have to configure your Maintained PB as follows: in General Tab, State settings, Next State based on -- use Value Controlin Connections Tab, Value and Indicator fields must have the same Tag Then, in the PLC, you have to create a new rung with a First Scan system bit and as many OTU instructions as Maintained PBs you have in your application.... see the attached screenshot for an example. You may also use another bit to realize the same reset when the drive trips... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 500 cat no 1747 -L30A The PLC is showing CPU fault and on the message display it shows Checksumerror NVRAM. how do i solve the problem???? ### Assistant: Hmmm... there are too few infos here.... :smileysurprised: Please post also : Status for ALL led on the Cpu... (and also if the led in steady, flashing or off)Message Display type and code. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connection type for Produced / Consumed data If I have multiple racks with multiple processors and they are all Producing and Consuming tags, what should the Comm Format be on the CNB or EN2T (ENBT) modules? I see for digital I/O AB recommends Rack Optimization. This appears to work for produced / consumed data as well, but someone told me that it should be set to None. Why is that? ### Assistant: Your CNB / ENBT / EN2T modules should be set to use the correct Comm Format for your I/O modules... the Produced - Consumed tags use Direct Connections in any case, so it doesn't matter how your network modules are configured. To calculate the connection used you may take a look either to the CLX Selection Guide pages 172-173 or technote 56682 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RsNetWorx Hello, I'm a novice In the area setting up Networks and was wondering could someone recommend a book or web site so I can become more formalize in order to educate my self. Thank for any help and suggestions. Regards, Ken ### Assistant: You don't specify the Network type you're working on, anyway, a good starting point could be the Getting Result Guide. DevicenetControlnetEthernet/IP After that, you may find other usefull infos in the Tutorial coming with your RSNetworx software. For example, about RSNetworx for Devicenet, this tutorial is available from Start > Programs > Rockwell Software > RSNetWorx > RSNetWorx for DeviceNet Tutorial. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, Thank you for your reply and I'll look at the links you supplied. Regards, Ken n"}
{"text": "### Human: Remote access or VPN to compact logix. We are putting a system into a factory with an L35E compact logix. We are trying to come up with a good way to get remote access to the PLC. The customer will set us up as a VPN client to there corporate network. They currently do not have RS5000, so it would be advantageous to be able to go directly to the PLC, and run the RS software from our location. Our system already has its own network, there is an HMI, and several Ethernet I/O devices, so putting all the components onto their network is not a possibility. Is there a device that we can use that will allow use to get to the PLC directly? We have used an ENI module in the past to connect a micro logix to an Ethernet network, and do all the programming over Ethernet. Could this be done with a compact logix, and going to the com port? Will this provide fast enough communications? Is there a way to use a router, and how would it be set up. Any suggestions would be great. Thank. ### Assistant: If it's a L35E, it already has an Ethernet port. If you're into their network via VPN, you should be all set. Speed may be slow and varied since you've got to deal with Internet speeds between you and them, but it theoretically will work that way. JHutch We have not used a VPN, but we have used a DSL modem with a fixed IP. The modem is bridged to a router that is on our local network. The router is set to forward ports 2222 and 44818 for RSlinx to the local IP address of a compact logix CPU. For security purposes we disable the forwarding when the connection is not in use.I would be interested if anyone knows how this would differ with a VPN, becuase we have some customers that would like to use that method as well. The ethernet port on the L35E is already in use, as mentioned we have several ethernet I/O devices attached to that port. We can not attach all the devices to there network, as they will not block off thatmay IP addresses for us. This is why we will probably have to go through a router. I very strongly recommend a VPN Appliance or a PC running Remote Access Service or VPN services be put in place. The customer will have to provide you with an Internet-facing IP address and configure their own networks to link that VPN appliance to the Internet port. I have customers who have had success with Sonicwall and eWON. I very strongly recommend against the consumer-grade appliances from Linksys and Netgear. Let's say your machine system at the customer is isolated and using the classic 192.168.1.x addressing range. The idea is that a software utility on your PC will act as though it is an Ethernet adapter that is part of the 192.168.1.x range. You'll be connected to your office network and the Internet, and the VPN software in conjunction with the VPN Applicance will tunnel securely from your PC to that small network. We have done this at a site, we had the customer purchase the software and a PC. It sits in the cabinet then we installed logmein from www.logmein.com. then we remote in from any internet connection. I can help my customer day or night from home or the office. Since the 1st we have done this for a few other customers and everything works great. The way the security is setup with logmein you need 2 sets of usernames and passwords (1 for your logmein account then another for the computer access) so we and our customers IT department are comfortable with the internet security. Yvon n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Flex 400 Heatsink ovrtemp I have a power flex 400, 300 HP. My problem is went i start the drive and past a few seconds appears a fault message ( F008, heatsink over temp). so, I touch the drive and is cold. I thinks is a problems with the sensor temp. But i dont now if is a failure card. can you help me? all fans works correctly. ### Assistant: If your drive is operating in an ambient temperature allowed as per specifications (not too cold - not too hot :smileysurprised: ) the fans are running when you give a star/run command to the drive, and there is not excessive load attached to the drive, then could be possible it is faulty and need to be repaired / replaced... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CLX COMMUNICATION WITH PLC5 OVER RIO HI, THIS IS MANISH GOYAL ,I HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PLC5 IO OVER RIO NETWORK TO CLX BY DHRIO MODULE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE ANY DOCUMENT, APPLICATION NOTE OR SAMPLE CODE AVAILABLE . THANKS & REGARDS MANISH GOYAL ### Assistant: Hi, try to take a look to Aid 17625.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi, sometimes it could be nice to see some feedback to the replies you get in the Forum...just to know and to let other users know if it is solved, if not or everything else could be useful to others... :smileysurprised: Thanks.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk Historian SE cannot add new CLX tags I create new tags in the ControlLogix processor (of varying types, e.g. BOOL, STRING, DINT, etc). I then go to the FactoryTalk Admin Console and try to 'Add Individual Historian Point'. I browse to my controller via RSLinx Enterprise and cannot see the newly created tags. The FT Diagnostics viewer is reporting the changes (i.e. it says something along the lines of controller has changed, new tag added) but the tag stubbornly refuses to show up in the online folder. Have tried refresh all folders and restarted RSLinx Enterprise service. Any ideas much appreciated. ### Assistant: Hi, just to double check, did you follow ALL the suggested steps in Aid 55733 ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Trouble with a 1756-if8 I'm install a new 1756-enet card this morning and after the dowload and optimize and merge, the problem appear on a 1756-if8 card. the error code is 16 ### Assistant: Something must have been corrupted in the configuration section of the module and the module rejected it.Try delete the module from the I/O configuration tree; then re-enter the module in the configuration and re-download the project. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Badabuck, Is another device perhaps coming over the network and trying to connect to the IF8? If a controller or HMI tried to connect to the IF8 as some other device (perhaps an HMI trying to treat it as a controller?), then the card might be refusing that connection and getting its configuration hosed.... Try unplugging the ethernet cable from the new network card and cycling power on the chassis and see if the intended controller connects to it OK (if it's a local connection). Does RSWho show the ethernet module and the I/O module correctly? Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: 700-HLT1Z24-EX Contact Current Ratings Hi, what is actual continuous current it can support when its NO contact is made closed, when it coil 24VDC is energized? ### Assistant: Hi, did you see HERE the specification for the contact ratings (it depends on load type and voltage...) - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-DHRIO removal I am modifying a ControlLogix program and it originally had a 1756-DHRIO module located in slot ### Assistant: Delete selection is grayed out if you have something configured under it (i.e. a remote adapter)...remove it from the configuration and the delete option should become available. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 v16.00.00 - Module Properties not comming up. I am having a problem when I go to the Module Properties for a drive. it's happenning on existing programs and new. This problem only arrises with v16... V15 and below seem fine. This only started recently, (within 2 weeks) as everything was fine before then. This system is Windows 2000 SP4 Here is a screenshot http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww313/AncamSolutions/RSLogix5000v16error.jpg I have un-installed RSLogixV16, Re-booted and re-installed and did the same with RSLinx. Not sure what to do next. I wish this site had a search, I'm sure I am not the 1st to have this happen. Thanks Yvon ### Assistant: Unfortunately I'm not able to *reach* your image, may you please take a screenshot and attach it to a post using the Add Attachments near to the message.... (please keep its width less than 500 pixels...) Anyway, I'm aware of an issue with v16 and PowerFlex Drive profiles, the problem is that you see a circle instead of the drive properties... if this is your case, take a look to Aid 38471. One of the solutions is to install v16.03 of RS5000... About the Search tool, it is available in the Main page of the Forum...use the Advanced search.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yep that is my problem. although my OS language is english... not sure how that would have changed. I am downloading the updates now. thanks also this is what I was getting Yes this fixed my issue thank again Yvon n"}
{"text": "### Human: Laptop to MicroLogix 1500 communication I am trying to connect to a MicroLogix 1500 plc from RSLinxLite v 2.41.00. I am using a 1761 CBL PM02 Series 2 cable. I have reset the 1500 to default communications and followed the instructions in answer 9799 The Basics for Configuring a RS232 DF1 Driver and Going Online with RSLogix 500. I have tried auto-configure, manual configure but no success. What am I missing? ### Assistant: Do you get an error message during Auto-Configure ? Which one ? Be sure that your PC selected COM port is not used by other devices... If instead auto-configuration comes with Successfull! message, which is the problem you have ? Are you using an USB to RS-232 adapter or are you using a *true* RS-232 port ? USB converters do not always work.... - fuzzy logic The error message is Failed to find baud and parity! Check all cables and switch settings! The serial port is a genuine serial port Do the any of the other settings ( error checking, full/half duplex etc) have to be correct for auto configure to work? Does the processor have to be in porgram mode? Hmmm... are you sure to have defaulting serial port of Micrologix ?The DCOMM led in ON ? It should be, if defaulting to DF1.... The only setting you need to Auto-Configure is the selection of the serial port of your PC...Again...be sure it is not already used (for example other drivers, like RSLinx Enterprise for FactoryTalk View), is active and works.... The processor doesn't need to be in Prog Mode. - fuzzy logic Yes the DCOMM light comes on when I press the COMMS button. The other comms light is not flashing. The laptop had been used previously to communicate to an SLC500 using a 1747-PIC converter. I deleted this driver from RSLinx. I did notice that the serial port itself shows its driver as AB PIC/AIC + Port (Com3) rather than the Microsoft standard serial driver. I did try removing the AB driver and putting the standard one on but it seemed to make things worse. I think that serial port is *busy* due to this problem.... after removing the PIC driver from RSLinx, try the following: Access Windows Control Panel > Device Manager > Ports: Comm and LPT and uninstall the com port assigned to the pic and reboot. Check if the Com port in Windows Control Panel comes as a *normal* serial port after reboot, then try the Autoconfigure again.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I'll try what you suggest tomorrow when I am next on site and let you know. Any new about your test ? :smileyhappy: Thanks,- fuzzy logic The PIC driver is notorious for grabbing the serial port and not letting go even when the driver is deleted. I find it good practice to reboot after using and then deleting the PIC driver in Linx. Fuzzy Logic's reboot should sort it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Graphic Libraries Has anyone got a site where I can download more graphics for ME applications??? ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a Rockwell Automation site for that...I know there are some sources around in the www, most of them are not free... :smileysad: You may create .bmp or .jpg files for the images you need to import in your ME project... for example making a screenshot of your image and paste into Paint or similar software. Take a look HERE to get other infos... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk ViewPoint Catalogs As FactoryTalk ViewPonit has been released recently, what are the FactoryTalk ViewPoints catalogs for ordering? William ### Assistant: William, for what I can say, although it has been launched, it isn't yet orderable... I mean the catalog number is not yet available :smileysurprised: I think it will be completely released soon... - fuzzy logic No catalog information that I know of, but perhaps this link will help: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/rockwellsoftware/performance/viewpoint/ It isn't released, so you can't order it just yet. Look for a February-ish release. Also ran across the following link through Automation World: http://discover.rockwellautomation.com/IS_EN_Performance_FactoryTalk_ViewPoint.aspx Hi William, attached a screenshot from Software Updates site, where the software is now available for download to whom have a valid support contract. Anyway you may find the cat # to order it. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Analog 4 to 20mA versus 0 to 10 volts Is there any benefit using one type of signal over another when controlling output devices with a compactlogix PLC using remote I/O. ### Assistant: HERE another post with some indications about the analog usage and potentialissues selecting between current and voltage. Basically I don't have a rule for analog selection due to the various factors that affect it,as explained in the technote 17494... anyway I'm use to select Analog Current when the device is around in a plant and I use the Analog Voltage when there is short run (machine, electrical board...). edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic extruder, It may depend somewhat on what the final device is, how far it is from the output card, etc. Here are a few points, in either direction and not sorted -- just stuff that comes to mind: * Voltage: If the device receiving the voltage signal has a very high input impedance (minimizing the current in the wires), it tends to pick up noise and the wiring must be a short run or very well shielded and properly grounded.* Voltage: If the device receiving the voltage signal has a low input impedance (minimizing noise pickup), the resistance of the wire and the current required by the input will cause a voltage drop in the wire, making the signal at the receiver inaccurate. You can recalibrate to the received signal, but the wire resistivity is temperature dependent, so your calibration will drift with temperature.* Voltage: You can take one voltage output an parallel it to multiple receivers. * Current: If the device originating the signal does not actually power the loop (circuit), you'll need a power supply for loop supply (typically 24 VDC). For MOST Allen-Bradley I/O cards, input cards expect an outside loop supply (unless you buy a sourcing card), and output cards source their output.* Current: If the field device is loop powered, the I/O card will power the device and no power wiring needs to go to it. This is very common with transmitters, but you were talking about outputs. Still, some I/P (current to pneumatic) converters are loop powered -- all you need is air, no 120/240 VAC, at the field device.* Current: To send a signal to multiple devices, you need to put them in SERIES (not parallel) in the loop. Each device has some voltage drop in the loop, and the sum of the device voltage drops plus the wire resistance must still allow 20 mA to flow through the loop at supply voltage. Most A-B INPUT cards use a 250-ohm resistor and measure the 1 to 5 VDC across the resistor -- you need to account for this in determining how much wire -- out and back -- you can have in the current loop. 0 to 10 Volts is a zero-based signal -- if the wire opens up, you read zero volts, which is still a valid signal. 4 to 20 mA is an elevated-zero signal -- if the wire opens up, you read zero milliamps, which is definitely an invalid signal. A-B INPUT (I know, we were talking about outputs....) cards often have a bit that tells you the input is out of range -- but you may not get this bit from an input set up for 0 to 10 VDC if the wire breaks. Voltage signals are more energy efficient. Each 20mA signal requires 20mA X 24 VDC of supply power (480 mW / PS efficiency) capability. Voltage signals have input impedances in the millions of ohms (typically) and use microwatts or less of power for the actual signal. Regardless of the signal, voltage or current, you need to be careful in grounding and isolation, watching for ground loops and common mode issues. More than I can discuss in a simple reply -- but it needs attention. I've seen an input ramp up and down over full range in a 30-second cycle because of a ground loop. Personally, I prefer 4 to 20 mA current signals in a noisy industrial setting, and I'm used to diagnosing issues with current signals. Other who prefer voltage will probably reply, and may point out some stuff I missed. Cool. Hope I got the basics pretty much right. Good luck!Happy shielding and grounding! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can I get the module IO status of 1732D-IB16M12MINI (such as using GSV instruction) ? The 1732D-IB16M12MINI module only has 16bit input data,can I use GSV instruction to get IO status or use other instruction to get it? ### Assistant: brucelu, The GSV to the Module object/class can get you connection status for any module in the RSLogix5000 I/O Configuration tree in the Controller Organizer that has a connection. But the 1732D- is a DeviceNet module, right? So if you're using a 1756-DNB, it's in the DNB scan list but not in the RSLogix 5000 controller organizer I/O tree. Is that your situation? If so, you can GSV to get the DNB's connection status, but not the 1732D. But you can look at the DNB Status data and see the connection status for the nodes the DNB is scanning. Check out these registers (in this example, the DNB is in local slot 2): Local:2:S.DeviceFailureRegisterLocal:2:S.DeviceIdleRegisterLocal:2:S.ActiveNodeRegisterLocal:2:S.DeviceStatus Note the S for status data, vs. I for input data. For the first three items above, each bit represents a node, starting with node 00 in bit 0 of SINT[0]. For DeviceStatus, it's a SINT per device. Sorry, I don't know the coding of this SINT -- try the DNB manual. But I've gotten by just using the other three bits. DeviceFailureRegister is probably the one you want. Still, to be thorough, you might say If DeviceFailureRegister (whichever bit) = 1 OR DeviceIdleRegister (bit) = 1 OR ActiveNodeRegister (bit) = 0 THEN there's a problem. Either it's failed, idle, or off-network. Stay tuned and see if Fuzzy has a manual reference, KB ID or technote he can pass along with the DeviceStatus coding or other info..... Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ DeviceStatus array values correspond to the values you would see on the scrolling display of the 1756-DNB for a particular module's connection. If the 1732D module is at Node 8, for example, you would see DeviceStatus[8] = 00 for normal operation. A failed I/O connection would give the value 72 (failed I/O connection), followed about 4 seconds later by a 78 (failed explicit message connection). Data size mismatch would give the value 77, and so on. My favorite table of these codes is in an old 1747-SDN Installation Instructions manual, but you can also find all of this in the DNET-UM001 DeviceNet Modules in RSLogix 5000 user manual. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Could you tell me What is the means of ADDR stand for micrologix 1400 in DF1 protocol Dear All, I have been achieved the part of the communication driver, refer to this manual (http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1770-rm516_-en-p.pdf). The driver can talk to Micrologix 1400 by DF1 protocol, and Micrologix 1400 could return the response correctly. The Only Question is WHAT the ADDR stand for? Such as, I want to read N7:2, then the ADDR shoud be like that? I have tested that ADDR=0700, it is not stand for N7:0. There are only example for PLC-2, PLC-3 and PLC-5, not Micrologix Family Addressing. Could you give me some futher information? Thanks! ### Assistant: Robin, I believe the PLC-5 formats are used with Micrologix 1400 as well. For N7:2, you can use PLC-5 logical binary addressing, as shown on page 13-12: 0x07 = mask byte, 3 levels0x00 = section byte, 0=data table0x07 = file byte, 7 = file N70x02 = word, word N7:2 Or you can use Logical ASCII addressing, where the address is coded as a text string, as shown : 0x00 = mask of 0, use Logical ASCII, not Logical Binary0x24 = '$' indicates ASCII address, not symbol0x4E = 'N'0x37 = '7'0x3A = ':'0x32 = '2'0x00 = NULL terminator (Basically, it's just <NUL>$N7:2<NUL> -- take the address, put <NUL>$ in front and <NUL> after and you have your address.)If it's not the same as PLC-5, then you'll need Fuzzy or one of the other tech guys to help. But try the formats above and let us know if it works! Good Luck! Dale, W8ABZ There are quiite a few different ways to address data memory in Allen-Bradley controllers built over the past 30 years. I would not be surprised if the MicroLogix 1400 supports the SLC-500 addressing format, not the older PLC-5 binary addressing or logical ASCII addressing formats. Robin, look in the DF1 manual on page 7-17 at the Protected Typed Logical Read with Three Address Fields. Try to implement this command and see if it works with your application. In general I very strongly recommend that users purchase communication drivers from established companies instead of attempting to write their own. n"}
{"text": "### Human: HSC in Micrologix1400 Hi all, I have been trying to read a quadrature encoder signals using HSC mode 6 in Rslogix500 and a micrologix1400 PLC, but the counter reading is not working well. At very low frequencyit counts fine, but from 100Hz and beyond a lot of counts are missed. It is suppossed that it can read quadrature signals up to 100kHz, so what is wrong?. I found the answer 17447 but I can not access to it. Any help would be appreciated. Manuel ### Assistant: You need to adjust the input filter time.click on  IO Configuration, Highlight the Bul 1766 and click on Adv Config button.Select Base/Type ( any Discrete base willl not work) then applySelect Embedded IO Configuration top tabAdjust Inputs used for the encoder to 250us, Then apply. ok Thank you for the suggestion but the input filter field appears in gray... even in online or offline mode using RSLogix500. Also we need information about how to connect a 5V quadrature encoder to the HSC input, as we noticed that the high 5V encoder state drops to 2.8V when using a LM339 comparator interface (using a pull up resistor of 3kohm) Thank you in advance Please read my instructions, you need to change the Base/Type from any discrete Base to your base type ie/ BXB etc.Then the Filter will be available only off line.The 5v encoder will also cause you problems,Inputs 0 through 11 (12 high-speed dc inputs)4.5...24V dc(14...26.4V dc (+10%) at 65 °C/149°F)(14...30V dc (+25%) at 30 °C/86 °F) Most Plc enclosures operate closer to the 30 deg, so the on-state voltage will not be reachedYou can use a pulse interface convertor to go from 5vdc to 24vdcA Phoenix Contact model 2964270 DEK-OE-5vdc/24dc/100khz unit will solve this problem n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlFLASH and Ultra3000 I have another Ultra3000 firmware upgrade question. I downloaded firmware version 1.52 from your website. I see that ControlFLASH is included in the zip file. When started, ControlFLASH launches RSLinx for communications purposes. Question : how would RSLinx communicate with a non-networked Ultra300 drive? I assume the answer is that it wouldn't, and that Ultraware has to be used with non-networked drives to update the firmware. I'm I correct? Thanks, Tracy ### Assistant: Yes, it is exactly like you've written.... Aid 45753 has the Ultraware firmware, ControlFlash can be used on Sercos drives... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra3000 w/ DeviceNet I have a Ultra3000 drive w/ DeviceNet - 2098-DSD-020X-DN fw ver 1.52 / model ### Assistant: It seems something has gone wrong with the firmware update, serial number is usually used as product identifier and seems to be corrupted... :smileysurprised:I can't find more informations on this error neither in the manuals nor in the Knowledgebasethus I suggest to call Tech Support so that they will talk with the engineers and give you some infos... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inview programming I`m looking to send messages to an Iniew via Etherne`t.I`ve configured the drive and can download, but I`m not sure how to send a messages. I have a logix5555 plc.I`ve set up the message trigger address as inview[0], the message data address as inview[1], the variable trigger address as inview1[0] and the variable data as inview1[1].How do you set these up in the plc programe ### Assistant: Hi. you may find some examples in the knowledgebase for this communication: Aid 40774Aid 20085 And also HERE. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi, was it useful ? Did you test it ? Any info ? Thanks in advance for your feedback.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix tag database Can I read a tag directly from the tag database using excel on a networked computer, and if so how? ### Assistant: This is usually easy to obtain installing RSLinx Classic on the pc where you need your data into Excel... You have to configure an OPC/DDE Topic in RSLinx and after that copy the data into Excel (above links are available if you have a valid TechConnect contract) Please be aware RSLinx Classic Lite (without activation) will NOT support this feature. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, but this appears to be a solution for PLC 5. I wanted to use Excel to read a tag in a ControlLogix processor over ethernet The examples are for PLC-5, because DDE links to Excel have been a standard feature in RSLinx Classic for many years. Choose a ControlLogix as the target of the DDE Topic and you'll get a tag list during the OPC/DDE Item Browse and be able to link the value of a ControlLogix tag to Excel. Thanks Ken for your help and comments.... :smileywink: However, take a look to Aid 41832, there is the same procedure for ControlLogix. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks,that looks simple enough. Do you know the steps for getting the value of a tag into Excel 2007 from what I could see DDE may have been replaced with RTD which requires a server... if this is outside the scope of this forum maybe you could point me in the right direction to figure this out. I would like to find a solution that would work for both 2003 and 2007. don't forget that for doing this, the standard RSLinx Lite version is not enough. You need a licensed version (OEM, Gateway oid) :smileysad: Excel 2007 should work fine with RSLinx Classic... here a post where a user has tested it... DDE should work with it (see here), anyway you may also use OPC instead. - fuzzy logic Hi, did you test it ? Thanks in advance for your feedback... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Flex 700 I/O wiring I need to where to land the input wire to make the drive go to a preset speed of 60 HZ in a manual mode. The drive will normally operate in an automode with a 4-20 ma signal. At times I need for the drive to operate in a manual mode and run at full speed. The start-stop signal will still come from a PLC for either operation. If a physical start-button is pushed for the drive to start, then the PLC will give an extra output for the preset speed. ### Assistant: By default, digital Input 5 (terminal 31) is configured as Speed Select 2. Based on the Speed Reference Selection Chart at page 1-24 of the PF700 User Manual, when this input is active, the Preset Speed 2 become the reference for the drive.You may change the frequency for that preset speed 2 in parameter 102. See also attachment.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Dean, did you test it ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I have not tested the circuit yet. I am still in the design stage and it will be about 2 weeks before testing. Your message made the instructions clearer.Thanks,Dean Logan OK, Dean...many thanks to have taken the time to report here your feedback to the reply... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Reset a bit with controllers clock I want to reset a bit at the same time every day based on the controllersclock [1756-L55 Logix ver 16].I now do this with a 24 TON but it is not asaccurate as i need it to be.I really want to reset this bit every day at noon I currently update 5 controllers with the clock update tool and havefound it to be very accurate. I am still new at programing and this seems simple but maybe not? ### Assistant: You may use the internal processor clock, accessible via GSV instruction... There are some examples in Aid 38232 (see the attached ACD file) and Aid 19844... This will give you all the accuracy you need... :smileyhappy: edit: removed broken link Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the guidance Fuzzy I took me while but it works now. The forum is a GREAT resource.:smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarm Tag for View SE Redundancy Failover? Hello all - just implementing View SE Redundancy (CPR9), and reviewing Answer ID 44624 regarding Determining Any Server's Current Status And State In A Display Client - I am looking for a way to generate an alarm when a failover occurs. It looks like this article describes how to access this information within a Display's VBA, but I really would prefer that the screen not be active. Is there anyway to achieve this through the event system? Thanks! ### Assistant: Use an AlarmEvent command when a server becomes active (use an On Active Macro). Thanks Michel - sounds like a good solution. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Major Fault On Communication Channel #0, error code S2:15=A2 I have this problem with a 5/05 processor everytime I try and enable a msg block to another 5/05 processor. I have channel 1 setup for ethernet on both processors. It mentions this could be caused by a duplicate I/P address. I have no problems until I try and enable one of 4 msg blocks I have in that processor. There are 3 5/05 and one 1100, IFix and RSView, 550 and Panelview Plus on this network. It faults within a minute of enableing the rung. Any ideas I can try? ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: My guess is that you're running out of connections capabilities for your controller...:smileysad: Take a look to Aid 38596 for possible cause of your fault and Aid 17469 about SLC connections info. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, I did take a look at that tech note and aid. That processor only gets called to/from IFix and the messages. I have reads from that processor maybe a total of 3 in other processors. It doesn't read or write to any of the panelviews, panelview Pluses or RSView works. They are on the same network though. Then when I try and do a write from it, it crashes. The processor in question was new in 2007. I did replace it once, didn't help so I put it back. They all are on forced 1/2 duplex, not sure if that matters. It is a 1747-L552 FRN 10 Series C.ThanksGeorge George, HERE a similar problem, just for info.... :smileysurprised: edit: HERE same error explained by Ken Roach (thanks Ken :smileywink: ) - fuzzy logic I was able to recreate it in my shop. I set up a 505 (552), a 505(553), and a 1100 processor. The processor I was having a problem with (552) I replaced with same program, brand new processor, same problem. In my shop (552) program was stripped to bare bones - no I/O, again reads no problem. As soon as I would try a write, sometimes less then 1 minute it would hard crash. Today, I wiped out the program, created a new program (setup), copied all rungs from (552) into it. Didn't crash, so something in the processor setup. I compared crashing 552 and working 552, when I changed the STI Setpoint (X10mS) S:30, and File number S:31 from a value greater then 0 (zero) to 0. It has run all day. Now the question is why.ThanksGeorge n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 500 error code: S6 = 0002 hex Hi all, Have anyone encounter this error on slc500 ? it says unexpected hardware watchdog timeout , is this the same watchdog set in the program, didnt increase the watchdog to give it a try, but whenever power cycle the plc, the fault occurs again, Please advise, Thank you ### Assistant: It is an hardware problem, like noise.... :smileysad: see the screenshot taken from Reference Manual, page 16-3. - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy logic, Thanks for your reply, I've just read that, does it mean external factors ? no relation to the plc system hardware ? Yes, exactly.... take a look to the User Manual Chapter 2 starting from page 47, there are useful infos about proper installation and noise related problems suggestions...surge suppressors on your contactors coils should help on that... - fuzzy logic Does this problem require you to reload the program and only when power is cycled? n"}
{"text": "### Human: L35E ethernet question I have two L35E connected together via ethernet and am trying to swap the the IP address of the two. The IP address swap successfully, can be pinged and communicated with external programs (RSLogix) but cannot communicate with each other until the ethernet port is reset. Does anyone know why they must be reset and how to do that programmatically? ### Assistant: rookcrook, How do you have them communicating? If you are using Produced/Consumed Tags or connected/cached MSGs, you have a persistent CIP connection (and so TCP connection). Once the TCP connection is established, the packets are directed by MAC ID, which is fixed for each module. Your ping shows that the new IP address is recognized by the module. So you need to break the connection and establish a new one. If you are using MSGs, be sure to uncheck the connected and cache connections checkboxes on the Communication tab of the MSG dialog so the MSG will be uncached. Then the MSG makes a new connection each time. I assume you are programmatically modifying the MSG path before you enable the MSG again. I'm not sure how you would handle Produced/Consumed Tags because the IP address of the destination controller is buried in the module configuration for the remote controller in the I/O tree of the controller organizer. You'll need better help than mine to change all that on the fly! Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ You ought to be able to send a Reset Service (service 0x05) to the Ethernet daughtercard to cause it to perform a soft reboot. Why are you attempting to do this ? n"}
{"text": "### Human: fail to load hmi server failed load hmi server message dispaly while opening the application in factory talk view studio cpr 9.0.any help on this? ### Assistant: any solutions........... Is it a Local or Networked application ?Did you backup the application and restore it ? In some case the problem was solved trying to repair the installation through Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.... Otherwise try to see if Aid 49998 apply to your case... - fuzzy logic Do you have redundant servers? If not, in Internet Explorer, type http://ip address of your server/RSVIEWSE in the address bar and see if you get the blue-green screen showing that your IIS is configured correctly. If it is and shows up correctly, then check to make sure your firewll on your pc is configured correctly (use the Windows Firewall Configuration Utility). Have you ever been able to access the project before? n"}
{"text": "### Human: GSV Command in Control Logix. Can you use GSV in control logix to find the number of Ethernet IP connections in use. ### Assistant: Hmmm.... I'm not aware of a CIP message settings to retrieve these infos from Ethernet/IP modules...if it is needed just as a diagnostic info (I mean it has not to be used in the RS5000 program) then you may use the Web Diagnostic pages embedded in every Ethernet/IP module. See the User Manual chapter 9 for further infos.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The Port Capacity object should have some of the information you need, but I don't think the specifics of that object are externally published. What are you trying to accomplish ? If you just want to look at the connections, the easiest way is to use the Logix5000 Task Monitor tool. Continuing to monitor this object type could take a toll on your processor's capacity to do other stuff. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 3 -5/05 and 1 1100, ethernet communication errors We are having one heck of a time trying to get msg'ing to work. We have cleaned up a number of cable issues. there are 3 unmanaged switches hooking the 4 processors and displays up to each other along with servers. There are other 5/05 on the network, and other view or Ifix nodes (which seem to have no problems). I noticed that the 1100 is set for 10/100 mbps full duplex/half duplex. The 5/05 all set for 10 mps half duplex forced. Does this matter? Does it matter that the switches are all 10/100? I looked at answer ID 21667 about auto negotiation and I really don't have any control over that. What it is doing now is not even faulting in the msg block, it just stops and doesn't communicate anymore unless I power down the 1 processor. We went from 8 msg blocks to 4 and still a problem. Any suggestiions?ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: Unmanaged switches are never a plus... AB equipment is multicast... it sends to all ports... 505's at 10 meg could be part of the bottleneck... if firmware supports them.. let them fly at 100 meg .. With everything talking, perhaps you are running out of connections and it pauses to try to recover a free connection..but since everything else is still talking.. there are none free so it hangs... are all the messages firing independantly or do you have them interlocked in some fashion? which PLC are you power cycling to clear network? suggestions go to 100 meg... interlock messages ( wait for a done before another fires) We had them on a timer, but when the company doing the program called Rockwell support, they had the rungs changed so that N18:0/13 and N18:13/12 are in parallel and unlatch N18:0/15. The 4 message blocks all with there own control blocks of course. I have disabled 3 of them while troubleshooting this issue only leaving one read msg enabled. One thing I noticed yesterday, is that 1 of the 1100 processors (not talking directly to the one I am having problems with) doesn't have SNMP server enable and it is also the only one with auto negotiate enable and port setting 10/100Mbps Full Duplex/half duplex. Otjer 3 processors SNMP server enable, HTTP server enable and port setting set to 10Mbps half duplex forced. Also yesterday, I tried disabling in the processor that the 2 reads and 2 write msg blocks are in, all msg rungs. I then added a rung to write to this processor (from one of the processors that I tried reading from) that failed also. More supporting some of the issues you talk about.The PC I am power cycling is the one with the 4 msg blocks in it. Not the processors they are talking to.Thanks for any help in trying to fix this.George Take a deep breath and a more thorough look at your network. It is clear that you have three SLC-5/05 and one MicroLogix 1100 controller in your system, as well as several displays and servers for RSView and IFix. It is implied that the messaging logic in one or more controllers functions correctly and then stops functioning after a period of time. The information you need to supply includes: 1. Does MSG logic hang up in just one of the controller, or in more than one ?2. Which controllers (SLC or MicroLogix) does the logic hang up in ?3. Does logic hang up after a predictable period of time ? 4. Which firmware revisions are all the controllers ?5. Use the embedded Web pages to count the incoming and outgoing TCP connections for all the controllers.6. Is there any ControlLogix I/O on this network ? Only Logix I/O and Produced/Consumed Tags use multicast. If you can attach or post the logic you are using to trigger the messages, someone may be able to advise you on it's applicability to your system. SNMP very likely has nothing to do with your problems.HTTP very likely has nothing to do with your problems. Ethernet speed and duplex may have something to do with your problems. The Messaging logic very likely has something to do with your problems. I'd try to describe the network with names instead of pronouns; you are familiar with your system, so the one I'm having problems with and one of the others have meaning to you, but not to us. Your most recent post also implies there's more than one MicroLogix 1100 on the network, but your original post describes only one. I'll post in a minute about self-triggering repeating messaging versus periodic sequential messaging. Let's talk about MSG triggering logic. A very common and simple method to run a MSG instruction repeatedly and as fast as the controller will permit is to place the MSG instruction on an unconditional rung and have another rung in which the /DN and /ER bits unlatch the /EN bit. This method works fine in many applications, but the drawback is that it does not consider the other traffic from outside and inside the controller. If you had four of these messages running in the same controller, they would get into the execution queue and then execute one at a time, then get retriggered individually as they were completed. Which would be great.... until one of them fails. That message will get re-triggered and enter the execution queue, even though it's unlikely to complete a second time. Meanwhile, the other messages stack up behind it and need to wait for the first message to time out before they can be executed. Those messages will then time out, and the logic will place them back into the queue...... eventually the execution buffer and the pre-execution buffer (the SLC-5/05, for example, has room for 4 executing and 10 pre-execution) will fill up and the logic will hang. To conserve bandwidth, I like to trigger messages based on the /DN bit of a repeating Timer. What's important is to make sure the Timer can't re-trigger the message if the message is still waiting to execute. Ethernet messages in the SLC-5/05 fail on timeout much slower than most people think. The MSG configuration window gives you a fixed value of 5 seconds, but that's actually in addition to the two values on the Channel 1 configuration; the Connection Timeout (15 seconds) and the Message Reply Timeout (3 seconds). The total timeout period is 15 + 3 + 5 = 23 seconds ! So, what I do is condition the MSG instruction with its own /EN bit so that if the remote device doesn't respond (or responds very slowly) the Timer doesn't put another copy of this MSG into the execution queue. So what if I need to send messages to multiple controllers, I want to conserve bandwidth, and I don't want to jam up the messaging queue ? The way I do it is to write a cascade of messages. The first message is triggered by the /DN bit of a repeating timer, and each subsequent message is triggered by the /DN or /ER bit of the message preceding it. To avoid the very long message timeout delay, I manually time out my messages in logic but placing another set of rungs below my cascaded MSG instructions that monitors the time that the /EN bit has been on. An Ethernet message typically executes in under 100 milliseconds, so I'm generous and make the manual timeout timers 1 full second. If the /EN bit for any of the messages has been on for more than a second, I use the /DN bit of the manual timeout timer to set the /TO bit of the incomplete message with an OTE instruction. Manually setting the /TO bit is a valid way of causing the message to time out before it has gone through the actual connection, reply, or instruction timeouts. Manually un-setting the /EN bit is NOT a valid way of doing this; in fact, it's a bad thing to do because it will re-trigger the message you're trying to dismiss. With this mechanism, I have a sequence of MSG instructions that in the worst case can repeatedly execute in 1 second x number of MSGs. In the best case, they execute one after the other and complete in about 50 to 100 ms per MSG instruction. The next level of sophistication is to provide demotion logic that prevents the re-triggering of a message that has recently timed out, and re-allows it in the sequence only once every few minutes (or few tens of seconds, depending on your system needs). I won't cover that now. Ken, Thanks so much for looking at this. Out of 5 processors, 3 are 5/05 and 2 are 1100. One of the 1100 may never be started again. Processor 1 (uni), 5/05 is the baby of the family. Processor 2 (batch) and 3 (water) are also 5/05. Processor 4 (dist) is an 1100. Processor 2 (batch) has both a read msg and a write msg to processor 3 (water) . No problems at all. All msg have been in Processor 1 (uni), 10 minutes is the longest I have seen it work, but usually right away it just stops. Yesterday, I disabled the 1 msg block still enabled in processor 1 (uni) which was a read from processor 3 (water) and put a write msg in processor 3 (water) to processor 1 (uni). It didn't error, but didn't send info either. I have to fight for time because of what shuts down when I have to power cycle one of these processors. So I am not sure how quick I can make changes people suggest. Revisions, I will have to wait unti Monday now to find out, but processor 1 (uni) 13 months old, processor 2 (batch) and 3 (water) @ 2002. Thanks AgainGeorge Thanks, George. That information makes the system much easier to understand. I only count three MSG instructions in the system, but I'm guessing there were others from Processor 1 (Uni) to several of the other processors. Let's eliminate cable and duplex problems right away, since if those exist you could spin your wheels forever chasing programming issues and never find any. You mentioned that you had cleaned up several cabling issues, but we agree that speed and duplex might be a problem. Older SLC-5/05 controllers only support 10 Mb/s Half-Duplex Ethernet. SLC-5/05 Series C hardware supports 10/100 and half/full duplex with Auto-Negotiation. A-B started shipping the newer Series C hardware in early 2005, and you can check the sticker on the side or check the S:61status register (0= A, 1= B, 2=C). MicroLogix 1100 have been 10/100 Full/Half Auto-Negotiate since the beginning. If you plug an older SLC-5/05 like the Water controller into a switch that has a 10/100 Auto-Negotiation feature, the switch will usually correctly determine the 10 Mb/s and half-duplex function. If the switch doesn't get the data rate correct, you'll get no communications at all. But if it gets the duplex setting wrong, you're in for a torrent of Ethernet frame collisions. If your switch doesn't have a FD/HD indicator (many combine the indicators or lack one) on each port, use the SLC to check for the effects of duplex mismatch. The embedded Web page of the SLC-5/05 should give you some diagnostics (I don't have one to look at right this minute) and the Channel 1 Status file will show increasing numbers of Alignment, FCS, or Collision errors. Even if you don't have control over the switch selection and configuration, if you can prove to the guys who do that the switches are preventing proper function of the system, they'll usually be happy to pay a couple hundred dollars for proper switches. Another thing I'd look at with this system is how heavily loaded the SLC-5/05 ports are. We need to look both at the physical packets/second loading and at the TCP Connection loading. The physical loading I usually measure with the embedded web page or with the Channel Status counters. A quick trick: Get a stopwatch and click the Clear button to zero the counters, count off 10 seconds, then alt-printscreen to capture the counter values (paste into MSPAINT with control-V). The three models (L551, L552, L553) and different generations of SLC-5/05 controllers can handle different numbers of incoming, outgoing, and total TCP Connections. If the Water controller is, for example, an SLC-5/05 1747-L551 controller, it will support 16 total TCP connections to different devices. It will support up to 12 of those as Incoming, or up to 12 as Outgoing. You could potentially overload the controller's TCP connection capacity with 3 or more incoming TCP connections from other controllers, and 9 incoming TCP connections from RSView or IFix. Check the TCP connection counts for all of your controllers, particularly Water. In the Channel 1 status file, these counters are words 50 (total), 51 (incoming), and 52 (outgoing). See KB# 18456 for details on those. Depending on the age and firmware of the controller, the embedded web page may even list the IP addresses of the devices that have TCP connections to the controller. I think TCP connection overload is unlikely in a system this small, but it should not be overlooked. Hi Ken, An update, Processor 3 (water) doesn't have a diagnostic file, so can't check that. I will add diag file as soon as they will let me. Also, it had a L553 processor in it when the ethernet portion died. Was replaced with a L551 processor we had as a spare. The networking issue has been going on since installing processor 1 (uni). Would it be a good idea to bring revision levels all up to present? I will attach jpg's of web pages I printed out. Will have to add a 2nd msg for 2nd jpeg. ThanksGeorge 2nd page of jpeg. Hi Ken, An update with the UNI processor. I was able to get a spare 552 and a 553 processor to recreate the problem in the shop. Stripped - no IO, nothing else in the racks but the processor. I finally found the problem. Someone had set the STI to file 11. That is where all the message blocks were. I set that to zero and no more crashing.Hopefully my last problem, in the BATCH processor, sometimes I can't do a Save-as. It gets part way through and just freezes. This is even using a crossover cable plugged directly from my laptop to the processor. I have tried a couple of laptops. WinXP, but both have service pack 3 on them. I have to figure out how to rollback. George George;Here's rollback info from the knowbase 56260 I tried the first 2 this morning - couldn't find. So I will wait till Wednesday and see if IT can do it. ThanksGeorge n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activations mising from Dongle and Computer I think (actually I'm pretty sure) I did something wrong. My activations cannot be seen on either my dongle or my computer. I think I tried a re-host and didn't do it correctly. How do I recover these files ??? ### Assistant: I suggest to call in Tech Support, giving them the Serial Number and the Product Key, they will be able to check if your activation is available on the Rockwell Automation Server, or maybe you have to complete correctly the rehosting process... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I guess you have already completed rehost your activations. You can try to find a rehost log file (rehost_log.txt)on your computer, C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogs. And then get to https://licensing.software.rockwell.com to rehost your activations with the rehost code from above text file. After that, you may retrieve your activations again from the site. you can rehost 3 times... then your locked out until you call tech support. typically people when not using the wizard forget to download the .LIC file. If its on the server, the support team can email it to appropriate customer regardless of times accessed. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Check if database tag exists Does FTViewSE have a function that checks whether a particular tag exists in the tag database?In Intouch I have a function tagExists(tagname) that I use a bit. ### Assistant: When you initially set up an application, you use the tag browser to tie a tag name to an object. you dont see it in the tag browser, either its not talking or it isnt there. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelVIew replaced with versaview Dear all,I got problem with panelview 1400, i want to replaced with versaview 6180W.Is it possible use penalview software or panel builder to apply existing program into versaview? Regards Ediansyah ### Assistant: Unfortunately it is not possible to use Panelbuilder32 to create applications for your Industrial Computer... If you plan to install an HMI software on it, for example FactoryTalk View ME, then you will be able to import your *old* application in FactoryTalk View Studio and use it to create the new HMI to run using a Station license on the PC. HERE you may find some info about FactoryTalk View... and the Ordering Cat. # See also User Manual of the software , page 4-5 to get informations about importing... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Dear Fuzzy,Thank a lot for your information, i'll try to do that. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Address Wizard RSLogix 500 Hy together In my RSLogix 500, the Address Wizard isn't aviable!I'm using Vista and RSLogix 8.10.00.The function is disabled in the System Options (Look@picture) and I've got no change to make it enabled... What could be the problem?Andy ### Assistant: Hi, which is the Vista version you have ? Anyway, I didn't find informations about this issue... just try to open your registry editor using REGEDIT command in the Start Menu of your OS, then go to: HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareRockwell SoftwareRSLogix500ApplicationOptions and double click the AddressWizardEnabled on the right side of the window, edit it writing 1 in the Value Data field. See the screenshot.... USE CAUTION WHEN EDITING THE REGISTRY. MISTAKES IN REGISTRY EDITING CAN CORRUPT THE REGISTRY TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO REINSTALL THE OPERATING SYSTEM. Be sure to export the registry to a new file name before making changes in the original registry. Let me know, - fuzzy logic Address Wizard is on Standard and Pro Starter does not have the feature. Vista is not officially supported as RSLogix500 operating system. Just to say that RSLogix500 v8.10 is supported on Vista OS.... :smileywink: The following is taken from the Release Notes : RSLogix 500 is supported on workstations running Windows Vista Business (32-bit), Windows Vista Home Basic (32-bit), Windows 2000, Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP, Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and Windows Server 2003 R2 operating systems. If using FactoryTalk Services Platform with RSLogix 500 on Windows Vista, Service Pack 1 is required. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS LOGIX VERSION 16 HI DEARSI HAVE RS LOGIX VERSION 16. I HAVE ALREADY INSTALL THE RS LOGIX VERSION 10 AND 13 ON MY LAPTOP. NOW I WANT TO INSTALL THE VERSION 16 BUT I HAVE NO ACTIVATION KEY.IF I INSTALL VERSION 16, WILL OLDER VERSION WORK PROPERLY? AND WHAT ABOUT VERSION 16? REQUIRED KEY? WILL IT FUNCTION PROPERLY?THANKS PLZ URGENT ### Assistant: All the three versions of the software can be installed on the same PC without problems, and will work fine.The activation key you're using for previous versions will work also for v16. - fuzzy logic THANKS FOR REPLYWILL VERSION 16.03(CPR 9) INSTALL FIRMWARE ITS OWN THE OTHER VERSIONS FIRMWARE NOT DISTURBED PLZ GUIDE? The installation of the firmware is an option of the setup process... anyway the other firmware versions will still remain on your PC, no problems.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView Plus 1000 Touchscreen- slow to update I have a P.V. + 1000 that is very slow to update some of the values from several PLC's on Ethernet. This is on a 128 MB touchscreen, without keypad. One particular screen takes 30-50 seconds to update. Also, sometimes alarm indicators do not ever update, but if I cycle power to the P.V. then they will update. There is about 140 screens. We have monitored RAM usage live and have seen a maximun of around 23MB total. I have tried connecting only 1plc and this P.V. to an unmanaged switch and the problem is the same. ### Assistant: 128 meg and 140 screens besides each screen having a memory overhead dependant on static or updating data.. there are overall PV+ operating system memory requirements... as a ballpark think 40 meg housekeeping... plus 2 meg a screen just as unsupported examples... the more memory you can get base... the better off you will be.. unmanaged switch can also tack on network access time since it sends to every port it can see... Doesn't sound like a memory problem this time. Sounds like a comms overhead issue. (And the unmanaged switch is fine in the test scenario you described). The question is how much data do you have flying around? You mentioned alarms. How many alarm tags? If they are a lot of alarm tags, look into changing the way they work. A single alarm tag can be used to trigger thousands of alarm messages via bit triggering, for instance. Remember, 100 alarm trigger tags means the PV+ has to ask for 100 alarm tag values every comms cycle. That's a lot of data. But 1 alarm tag with a length of 3 gives you 96 alarm messages (96 bits in 3 DINT words). That's 1/100th of the comms overhead in savings there. Also, if you have ON TOP displays instead of REPLACE displays, the other screens are still open, just behind the current screen. Which means they are still updating all their tags, too. That could be contributing to the lag. Last thing to look at is how many tags/objects on the slow screen. You have to remember that the CPU in a PV+ is a wimpy little thing by a modern computer's standards. You might be asking more out of it than it can keep up with. Splitting complicated screens into multiple sub screens can help a lot in those situations. Good luck,JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: upgrade firmware of Panelview Plus How can we upgrade firmware of Panelview Plus from 3.2 and 4.0 to 5.0 ? Please advise ### Assistant: Firmware upgrades are performed with the Firmware Upgrade Tool. You can do it over Ethernet or you can do it with a CompactFlash card (which I prefer). You download the firmware for your terminal from the Rockwell Automation Support website: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/firmware.html You do need a valid Automation TechConnect contract to download PanelView Plus firmware. And if you are a real masochist, you can even do it over serial. Make sure you set aside a nice long time ... like your weekend ... for the download to finish. :) JHutch When I upgrade firmware of Panelview Plus, it is informed that RAM is not enough memory. Please advise Stop the application running at the moment and delete all applications and logs on the Panelview Plus.Terminal Settings-->File Management-->Delete filesThen, try again.... :smileytongue: There is also the possibility, during the download across a network connection (both serial and ethernet), that the PVP may run out of storage space,as the terminal must store the firmware image in the internal storage of the PVP and then begin the firmware upgrade from that image. In that case, try to use the external CompactFlash to flash the Panelview Plus. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Help: Set Analog Output I'm using a 1762-IF2OF2 AO module and would like to change the output programatically in the code. I can't figure out the correct instruction to command the AO voltage level. I am able to adjust the AO at the bit level using the instruction OTE. Is there a way to command the AO in decimal form like you can in the Output data table during remote run mode? How does one specify all of the bits in a word in one command? Thanks in advance. Hardware: ml1200Software: RSLogix500 (RSLogix Micro Starter) ### Assistant: You may use the MOV instruction to do that... See the attached screenshot... in the Source you may either use a number directly or a Variable, like N7:0 in the example, which will contain the value to send to the output.As Destination, you have to use the Output address for your Analog Module... In the example the Module is in slot 1, the channel is the first (0) So, O:1.0 is the first word of the output in slot 1.... and it is referred to the first output, O:1.1 will be the other analog out... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Flex 700 scr pre charge board We have a AB Power Flex drive, P/N 20B D 096 A3 ANNANCO, that we lost the precharge board, P/N SK G9-PRE1-V480 (long story) and I am told by my local dist and Rockwell that it is a 10-15 day lead time. My question is do the other 700's have the same precharge board or are they specific to drive size? Thanks in advanceDave ### Assistant: Yes, the 400 / 480 Vac versions of all the PF700 have the same Precharge board (starting from frame 5), as you may see in the Spare Parts listing.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 700S Hour Meter Is there a way I can pull an hour meter of any kind off this drive? Thanks ### Assistant: I'm not sure to have correctly understood the request.... :smileysurprised: The only Hour meter I know inside a PF700s is related to the total time the drivehas been RUNNING.... Elapsed Run Time par 298. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes that helps. Thanks Is that to say there is not an option for run time of the motor? No way.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 440F-M1030CYNN Literature? I have searched the site with no luck. I need instructions for a safety mat catalog number: 440F-M1030CYNN. Can someone help me find them? Thanks ### Assistant: Try to see here for mats connettivity .... and typical wiring diagrams Also take a look to Safety Products Catalog, starting at page 2-75 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View Studio ME application not saving after running application on computer. Product: Factory Talk View Studio Version 5 (patch roll out for me and Se installed)Desktop computer windows Xp platform with SP3 installed.Problem: Whilst developing application (for panelview1500+).When starting up the desktop I can open my application, edit graphics, add/delete tags without any problems.i can then create a runtime appplication and run the application on the desktop computer.As soon as i shutdown the runtime application and there after edit any graphics or add tags the runtime application will not save again, the factory talk view studio hangs and after a few minutes i get a 'unable to save tag database i then have to rshutdown and re-start the desktop before studio allows me to save/create a runtime application. i have delete the tags in RMData folder and Studio re-created them, but it doesnt not solve the problem. ### Assistant: Barry, just a note about your issue: The usage of FactoryTalk View v5 on a PC with Windows XP SP3 is NOT supported / tested. :smileysad: This could also cause issues as yours.... See here for supported OS. - fuzzy logic I have un-installed XP SP3, my desktop is now on Windows XP SP2.The same problem persists.If i run the application on my desktop, shutdown the runtime application and make one simple change to a graphic or add ONE TAG, The application will not create/save in Studio.The desktop appears to hang up and after a minute i get an pop up unable to save tag database.However I can edit/create as many graphics and tags as i want, shut down the Factory talk view studio, re-start it,add more tags and it will save the run time file. The first time however I run the runtime app. on my desktop,there after i cannot save the file again.I end up re-starting windows 6-7 times a day as i develop and test the HMI application.To me it appears that after I run the application on my computer and then shut the runtime application down- that there is some rockwell service in the back ground that does not stop/close properly and then prevents the application from being saved again after editing the application further. Problem resolved: Moved application to a different computer.Must be some package installed on the development computer i was using.Note:The computer that the application now works on properly does have winXP with SP3 installed, so it seems that SP3 is not causing the problem I had. SP3 is a weird beast. I've seen the same issue be caused by SP3 on one machine and not on another (pretty certain it was SP3, because remove SP3 fixed it on non-working machine). Not saying SP3 has anything to do with your problem, just that I try to never rule out SP3 as a source of application weirdness. :) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Previous Page Command in RSView32 Hello. Does anyone know if there is a command in RSView32 that will act the same way as a 'Previous Screen' button does in FTView? I am familiar with the PrevWindow command in RSView; but that seems to only work if you have two active windows open. I want to be able to go back at least one screen, similar to the Windows browser 'Back' button. Will I have to create a Macro? Thanks! ### Assistant: Are you closing the previous screen when you open the new screen? There are options under the display settings for Replace, Overlay, and On Top. Unless you use the Replace function, you should be able to make a button on the screen and have it run the command Pushback. Thanks for the reply, rbellamy; but that is not exactly what I am looking for. Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 4354 and Aid 52735Aid 7170 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, fuzzy! I used something similar to Aid 4345 where I created a tag named PrevScrn and added the following to the Shutdown command on all of my main screens: &Set PrevScrn display_name -display_name is the name of your display. Quotes are needed. I then made a BACK button that is on a global screen (always visible at the bottom of my project) that runs the commands: &Display $PrevScrn$ -Populates the tag PrevScrn with the name of the display.&Set PrevScrn  -Sets the tag PrevScrn to nothing I use the second command (&Set PrevScrn  ) in the BACK button because I have a Home screen that is always accessible via a HOME button on my global/bottom screen. If the Home screen was the last screen viewed then the BACK button is not needed. I run a visibility animation on the BACK button of: PrevScrn <>  -PrevScrn not equal to nothing This expression keeps the back button from showing if the Home screen was the last screen viewed. I added the comments so others could understand. This really works well and did not take much time at all! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Decoding the GSV MAJORFAULTRECORD Information So I've got a ST fault routine that pulls - GSV(PROGRAM, THIS, MAJORFAULTRECORD, MajorFaultRecord.TimeLow); and grabs fault data from the processor. The program then compares the type and code (through Case..End_Case logic) to all the processor Type/Code combinations. It pushes the fault codes into a stack and (if enabled) clears the fault. Here's the problem. Even though I have the code and type of the fault, the diagnostic info that I have is garbage. If there is a major fault that stops the controller, you can get the Task/Program/Rung from the controller properties page. If you clear the fault, you don't have that information. I can mine some of it using this kb info: KB Article For instance, I can pull the instances, but I cant get the rung info. I can't make sense out of info[3] - address of fault. I want to keep the controller running through (most) major faults, but I want to be able to allow technicans get the rung where the fault occurs. ### Assistant: Unfortunately this is NOT possible at this time... :smileysad: The Rung number is a concept that just RSLogix 5000 knows, it is not an information the Controller can retrieve... in the controller you have just the memory address of fault, but it is difficult to associate this to the correct Rung... (as you have already seen :smileywink: ) I can say that this issue has already been submitted to engineers, but there isn't infos about if / when it will be implemented... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Yeah, I started to realize that I was in deep doodoo when I faulted the processor on rung 0, wrote down the fault info, moved it to 1, wrote that down and then went back to rung 0 and the fault info was different than the first rung 0 :robotsurprised:. I can let them know which program faulted, I guess that will have to be enough! Yeah, also, using the memory address, if someone does a download to the controller that memory mapping may completely change requiring them to re-evaluate everything... :smileysurprised: ...and so this doesn't help too much.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix500 and APS I have an old project created with APS software. When I open it with RSLogix500, I don't see symbols and comments, ladder only. What can I do? I don't have APS anymore. ### Assistant: You mention you dont have APS software anymore... do you have the 5 files it created for your project??.. those files can be imported thru ascii import in RSLogix500 to the ladder only file. If you dont have the 5 files... your pretty much up the creek. I do have 12 files for the project itself. Each file has a different extension such as B0$, B1$, B2$, OP$, etc. I tried Native import from APS and it failed. What's next? Did you follow the procedure indicated in Aid 55407 ? When Native import fails, do you get an error or a message ? - fuzzy logic Yes I did the procedure indicated in Aid 55407 and a lot of error message ERROR reading IMPORT source file. Then, for my own curiosity, I used notepad and open a few files and I can see my symbols and comments. It seems that I got everything but for some reason it won't work. Maybe something is missing or corrupted in your files... :smileysad: Anyway, if you like, I may have a look to them...if you want to send the files to me, I may send you a Private Message here in the Forum with my mail address... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Not having too much fun here with your files.... :smileysurprised: I've gotten the same errors, then I've also tried to open it with APS and save it again to another folder, but the same import errors come when opening from RSLogix500... It seems to be something broken in the archive file itself.... :smileymad: I'm afraid for that.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Unable to Un-Lock a Safety PLC (L61S- -v16) My customer has a Safety System currently installed (They installed it) and they want me to make some changes. They sent me their program and thier password. When I open the application the Lock/Unlock button is Grey'ed out and I can't click on it. why is that? Thanks Yvon ### Assistant: Just a question: do you have RSLogix5000 either Professional or Full edition on your PC ? This is required in order to work with the GuardLogix.... :smileysurprised: Q: What software do I need to program GuardLogix in v16 / v17?A: The GuardLogix Safety Editor is only included with the Full and Professional editions of RSLogix 5000. Service and Standard editions allow upload/download and view capabilities, but you cannot edit or add safety tags, safety instructions or safety modules.Alternatively, the GuardLogix editor can be purchased separately and added to Standard edition to gain safety functionality. The catalog number for this part is 9324-RLDGLXE.NOTE: If you are attempting to edit or create a Safety project with a version of RSLogix 5000 other than that listed above, you will observe the following symptoms:Safety Task is grayed out (unable to edit)Safety module configurations cannot be edited or changedSafety modules are not available in the pick list for you to add to your I/O configurationYou cannot select L61S, L62S or L63S when creating a new projectYou cannot Safety Lock/Unlock, create or delete a Safety Signature See FAQ - Aid 44566 - fuzzy logic I have Standard, I have done 6 Safety Applications in V14. Why they would have changed the Editor Type for v16/v17 is beyond me... Don't mind me as I walk away swearing. Yvon Oh, don't worry, I've nice earplugs here ! :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Cursor location on PV+ Hi is it possible to return the touch location (cursor) to the PLC? ### Assistant: I really think this isn't possible... I 've never heard about this info to be available :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Drive enable for Powerflex 700 In the installation instructions there is information about using a hardwire input at terminal 32 for a drive enable. The instructions say to remove jumper J10 from the cassett when using the enable input. After a thorough examination of the printed circuit card I could find the J10 jumper. I there something that I am missing? ### Assistant: The enable bridge is only available with the Vector Control option cassette with series B drives . It is not on the older series A standard cassette.The cassette part number should be 20VECTBC0 n"}
{"text": "### Human: vIEW STUDIO Is there an easy way to export all screens as jpegs or any format for that matter so that they can be imported into another application for making instruction manuals. At this moment I am copying each screen to the clipboard with printscreen and then using mspaint to trim off what is not needed and saving the file as a jpeg. ### Assistant: Yep, that's the way to do it. It also works if you want to get actual runtime versions of the screens, by taking a printscreen while test running the app. JHutch another way is exporting the displays to XML files. hope this could meet your need. Hi, Try to use a screenshot freeware like Gadwin printscreen you can set it to save automatically jpg file in a specified directory each time you press the PrintScreen key. In addition, .png file instead of .jpg save some space with a good quality. Thierry n"}
{"text": "### Human: Phasing Multiple Axes I have an application where Axis1 (Rotary 0-360 degrees) is spinning at a high speed and Axis2 (Rotary 0 -360 degrees) matches speed and gears to Axis1 at a 1:1 ratio. I need to find the phase between these to axes with high precision. It appears that the MGSP instruction would allow this but I cannot find any information on how this instruction works (tech support I have contacted doesnt seem to have much info either). Does it simply capture the axis positions on coarse update rate or is there something smarter happening? Or are there other methods of finding this information? ### Assistant: Hi Rudolph, I ran into similar issues and my solution is using the InterpolationTime. See the example.Subtract these two axis positions and you have the phase shift.p.s. DINT_CurrentTime is Datatype DINT[2] success,CeeYa n"}
{"text": "### Human: Monitoring ControlLogix processor temperature Hey All, I am wondering if the ControlLogix control units have any temperature sensors on-board, to monitor their temperature? The operating temperature is 0-60°C according to the manual. I am assuming this is the on-chip temperature, not the ambient temperature in the enclosure their in. Since i am not able to get to the chip temperature with an infrared gun really, i was hoping that I could view the temperature in the RSLogix software somehow. Is this possible? thanks for any input,Marko ### Assistant: Really the range 0 - 60°C is the AMBIENT operating temperature of ControlLogix...:smileysurprised: I'm not aware of a GSV or CIP message that is able to retrieve the chip temperature inside a Controller... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV+, is there a way to vary the Min/Max for a Numeric Entry button? What would work best for me is if I could make the min/max property's a variable. I have tried to use your Knowledge data base Answer ID ### Assistant: Unfortunately this feature isn't yet available, it will be in the next coming release 5.1 of FactoryTalk View ME...:smileysad: Anyway, take a look to the attached screenshot, there is an example of Optional Expression usage inside a Numeric Input object (the technote #19630 you've mentioned is referred to Enhanced Panelview, not Panelview Plus... :smileysurprised: ) Following a description of the objects you find in the Optional Expression: ? is the value the Operator enterMinmax1 is the destination tagMin is the tag that contains your minimum acceptable valueMax is the tag that contains your maximum acceptable value Basically the expression does the same indicated in the technote.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: L5k v17 L5k to ACD - Did I do it wrong? I've done a half a dozen conversions so far between PLC5 and CLX. Normally it's very straight forward - save as the correct format, export the database, merge the 3 database files and convert. Normally, opening the L5K file that the translater creates throws a ton of errors. That's fine, because anything refrencing a timer .acc or .pre, or ### Assistant: Hmmm. I've tried it an works fine.... just I've used a *small* PLC-5 program, with just a few message instructions... did you try this also ? Same problems ? Which is the errors you get trying to open thew L5K file ? - fuzzy logic Here is the contents of my result window; if I watch the directory where the new tag is being created I can see the sem and wrk files while it's converting, but when it's finished they disappear and no ACD takes their place. There isn't an error, really, it just stops. I'm left with a Logix 5k window with no files open. The translater shows a bunch of exceptions, which you would expect, but it does say translation complete at the end. The log file is attached. Error: BT12_0: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: BT12_0: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: BT12_1 Error: BT12_1: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: BT12_1: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_0 Error: MG36_0: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_0: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_0: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_1 Error: MG36_1: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_1: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_1: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_2 Error: MG36_2: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_2: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_2: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_3 Error: MG36_3: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_3: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_3: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_4 Error: MG36_4: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_4: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_4: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_5 Error: MG36_5: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_5: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_5: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_6 Error: MG36_6: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_6: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_6: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_7 Error: MG36_7: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_7: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_7: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_8 Error: MG36_8: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_8: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_8: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_9 Error: MG36_9: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_9: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_9: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_10 Error: MG36_10: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_10: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_10: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_11 Error: MG36_11: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_11: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_11: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_12 Error: MG36_12: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_12: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_12: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_13 Error: MG36_13: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_13: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_13: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_14 Error: MG36_14: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_14: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_14: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_15 Error: MG36_15: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_15: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_15: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_16 Error: MG36_16: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_16: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_16: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_17 Error: MG36_17: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_17: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_17: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_18 Error: MG36_18: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_18: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_18: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_19 Error: MG36_19: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_19: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_19: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_20 Error: MG36_20: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_20: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_20: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_21 Error: MG36_21: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_21: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_21: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_22 Error: MG36_22: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_22: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_22: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_23 Error: MG36_23: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_23: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_23: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_24 Error: MG36_24: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_24: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_24: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_25 Error: MG36_25: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_25: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_25: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_26 Error: MG36_26: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_26: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_26: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_27 Error: MG36_27: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_27: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_27: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_28 Error: MG36_28: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_28: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_28: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_29 Error: MG36_29: MSG configuration incomplete because no local tag is specified. Warning: MG36_29: Remote element not specified for message. Warning: MG36_29: Connection path not specified for message. Creating tag: MG36_30 Warning: MG36_30: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_31 Warning: MG36_31: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_32 Warning: MG36_32: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_33 Warning: MG36_33: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_34 Warning: MG36_34: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_35 Warning: MG36_35: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_36 Warning: MG36_36: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_37 Warning: MG36_37: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_38 Warning: MG36_38: Message tag not configured. Creating tag: MG36_39 Warning: MG36_39: Message tag not configured. Creating program: Continuous Creating routine: mcpMain Creating routine: _2_SCC_MAIN Creating routine: _3_COMMS Creating routine: _4_FLOW Creating routine: _5_LEVELS Creating routine: _6_TRANS Creating routine: _7_GATE_CTRL Creating routine: _8_BKS_MODES Creating routine: _9_CHNL1_SEQ Creating routine: _10_CHNL2_SEQ Creating routine: _11_CHNL3_SEQ Creating routine: _12_CHNL4_SEQ Creating routine: _13_CHNL5_SEQ Creating routine: _14_CH1_BK_CTR Creating routine: _15_CH2_BK_CTR Creating routine: _16_CH3_BK_CTR Creating routine: _17_CH4_BK_CTR Creating routine: _18_CH5_BK_CTR Creating routine: _19_SYS_STATUS Creating routine: _20_DATA_ENTRY Creating routine: _21_PLC_IN_OUT Creating routine: _23_NO_AUTO Creating routine: _24_2MJR_FLTS Creating routine: _25_IN_SERV Creating routine: _26_CHNL_SEQ Creating routine: _27_FLW_PCE Creating routine: _28_CHL_XCTN Creating routine: _29_A_MESSAGES Creating routine: _30_MJR_ALMS Creating routine: _31_LADDER Creating routine: _40_SQL_DATA Creating routine: _41_SQL_CALC Creating task: Continuous Complete - 32 error(s), 72 warning(s) I guess it will only let me attach pictures. STAT: 203 Translation completed Thursday, June 04, 2009 09:14:46 Justin, take a look to Aid 55691, it is related to your issue, and as you've suspected is a v17 problem.... :smileysad:There is also a workaround indicated in the technote... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Well, it's not that big of a problem, I'm just glad I'm not going crazy! I kept translating it and looking in the directory thinking I KNOW I pointed it here, where's my ACD?. My reality was beginning to unwind for a while there. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Premade HMI screens for PowerFlex drive? I've heard rumors of some pre-made screns Rockwell made for RSView to show what's happening with my drives, but, of course, I can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? ### Assistant: There were mentioning faceplates in one the classes here at RSTechEd. Don't know if they include what you're looking for, but go to the support page at rockwell and click downloads and then smaple code library. See if what you're looking for is there. Link to SampleCode site Nice to see the forums up and running again, Look at faceplates under the description Check out samplecode.rockwellautomation.com JHutch, pretty old thread, I know... I was searching the Forum for thread with no replies, and found this... :smileysurprised: This is as you've suspected, a reply to the following thread... if you want you may move it to the right place... :smileywink: THREAD LINK Also, the link in it isn't correct, just you may change it to the home page for the Sample Code.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 5/03 to SLC 5/05 Can a SLC 5/03 program be downloaded to a SLC 5/05 processor? ### Assistant: Basically the answer is yes; just be aware the software will ask you to convert the project to the correct cpu before download.... see the screenshot.... Otherwise you may Change the Processor Type in the offline file and then download... see Aid 51417... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk Local Security Hi, I have an ME application PV+ what contain over 40 users. What is the right way of providing a copy to the customer of the application so he can then manage the users in the future. ME uses local Factory talk, so how can I manage users accounts on PV+ from a central location. Is it possible ? Can I install Factory Talk Services on a computer on the nextwork and have the PV+ validate the users from one computer. The customer is going to have a total of 6 pv+ so I am trying to see the best way to manage users and too give them a backup of the app with all the users. If I export my factory talk settings it will be no good right since he may have other configuration on his computer. Thanks ### Assistant: perhaps, it is the best way to backup the system folder of FactoryTalk Local directory .. Since the users are stored in the computer's FT Directory and get lost when moving the project from computer to computer, I recommend using v3.x users and migrating them to v4/v5 tab before downloading. The v3.x users tab is stored in the project, so it will remain intact when moving the project around from computer to computer. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: ERROR Message:could not connect to TM32793 in my FactoryTalk Diagnostics viewer who knows the meaning of this error could not connect to TM32793? after i open my view Studio, i will receive this error message. ### Assistant: Hmmm.... is this the complete and correct error message ? Do you have a screenshot of the error to post ? Also, please post your Windows OS type and version and View Studio version.... - fuzzy logic Thank you very much, the problem is solved, it is not a problem about studio. its provider is FactoryTalk Transaction Manager Compression server. i did not watch carefully at that time,sorry. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Linking tags to an analog output card I am currently linking my tags to my hardware (first project) and i got the following question: The 1756-OF8 output card has his tags divided in Local:12:C Local:12:I and Local:12:ONow both 12:I and 12:O have Chanel0Data to Chanel7Data.Do I link my tags (for example the speed of a fan going to a drive) to 12:I or 12:O ? ### Assistant: Your Analog Output card channels are in Local:12: O.ChannelxData... Local:12:C is the configuration part of your module Local:12:I is the Input part of your module,the ChannelxData you see there, is the Data Echo from module... like a feedback from the module that represents the value it is on its output terminal... Data Echo Data Echo automatically multicasts channel data values which match the analog value that was sent to the module’s screw terminals at that time. Fault and status data is also sent.This data is sent in the format (floating point or integer) selected at the Requested Packet Interval (RPI). Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix to Carrier Chiller via Modbus Using a ML1100 w/ Ch0 in Modbus RTU Master mode to read 32 holding registers in a Carrier Chiller. Carrier claims the data points reside within the Modbus address range of 56384 through 56443. These do not appear to be valid holding register addresses, and when configuring the MSG's w/ Modbus Command 03 (read holding register) there is no way to invoke this address. Using Modbus command 01(read coil status) does allow usage of the 56384 address, but technically this is not within the Modbus holding register range. Any tips on working through this are welcome, especially if you have networked AB products with Carrier products ### Assistant: ModBus Command 01 uses bit addresses, 56384 is bit 0 in word 3524, 56443 is bit 11 in word 3527 Thanks for the reply. I did see that in the description of how the AB products query the Modbus registers. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF40 - Ref Speed w pot With PF40, I use pot for speed reference.With a time ( 4 years) my reference lower ≈ 48 HzI change my drive, the speed reference is OK, with same wiring and a same config. I don't know if this case is documented? ### Assistant: Do you mean the embedded potentiometer on PF40 or a remote potentiometer ? Anyway, I didn't find documents on that, just I may suspect some dust inside potentiometer has changed its resistance value during years... it is a plausible possibility I think... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTViewSE 5.0 E-signature / List Selector / Program scoped tags Hi experts ! Customer is having issues with 3 subjects 1) Electronic signature It is a good tool to log value changes of integers. But they want to use it for strings. But we can't find a way to use it this way, so we could see in the log, like for integers, old value and new value. 2) List selector Using control and piloted and list selectors, when you come back to the first position (value 0 by default) the selector disappear. The only fix we found was to give another value to the first position, for example 100. 3) Program scoped tags Using program scoped tags in a ControlLogix, sometimes values refresh are not updating. We have to use controller scoped tags. Thanks for helping ! ### Assistant: Hello JoeCH, Regarding the ESignature button questions you asked, 1. You could set string values by changing the ESignature Operation from Set Value to Download Input Values. This should write all values in all input fields regardless of whether they are numeric or string. 2. I've tested both these controls and did not see them disappear when the value was set back to 0. Maybe they have Visibility animations on them that cause them to be invisible? 3. For your tag update problem, you need to figure out where the problem lies. When the tags fail to update, do you seen any communication errors in the Factorytalk log? Usually when tag values updates are intermittent, the things I've seen cause this are A) the controller overwriting the value that the HMI wrote, or B) communication bandwidth issues. You might use the Rockwell Software Data client (under Start-> Programs-> Rockwell Software-> FactoryTalk Tools) and RSLogix 5000 to compare to against the values that you see in the HMI project. Hope this helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx crashing when updating tags in HMI I am using RSLinx as a DDE server for an Intouch application. My issue is that most of the time when I make a change in tags for this application, when I go back to run more, it causes RSLinx to crash and I have to re-start RSLinx. What could cause RSLinx to crash? Is this a common problem with other HMI's? Thanks, Eric ### Assistant: Well InTouch is a Wonderware product... so dont know what its trying to pull out... but if dde is running and you add/modify existing tags that could confuse RSLinx... like time out trying to resolve or somethinjg. When running Wonderware redundant servers, making a change to the tag database forces us to have to restart and resync at least one of the servers. It's possible that a tag mismatch is occuring similiar to this and you have to re-establish the DDE connection within RSLinx to initially scan all of the tags again. We've had instances such as this....nature of the DDE beast. Well, I'm not too found of DDE to begin with, so if the Wonderware application can use OPC, that might be preferable. If you need to stay with DDE, I'd start the troubleshooting process by checking the RSLinx communication event log under DDE/OPC menu. This will at least give you some sort of error that can shed some light on what the problem actually is. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communication Loss in FTView SE Application was running in FTView SE local communicating with L32E processor. For3-4 days it was communicating without any errors. Somehow, after that SE application stopped communicating with logix device. In development mode topic is configured and showing communication. However it is not browsing the tags and system hangs often when tag browser window is opened. What could be the reason for communication loss? ### Assistant: It could be that, for some reasons, the processor has been temporarily unavailable on the network... :smileysurprised: Try to apply what is indicated in technote 29574 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I'm not sure if you are using RSLinx Classic or RSLinx Enterprise here. If RSLC, check the communication event log in RSLinx under DDE/OPC menu. If RSLE, check the FactoryTalk log for communication errors. If you are unable to browse the offline folder, I'd delete the Harmony files under C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSCommon. There are 2 and both start with the word HARMONY. If this is RSLinx Enterprise, I might delete/recreate the shortcut and if that still does not solve the problem, use the solution from tech note 45110. Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: User-Defined Major Fault from an AOI? All, Per the Logix 5000 Major and Minor Fault Programming manual (pub. 1756-PM014B-EN-P), you can generate a user-defined Major Fault by doing a JSR to the designated Fault Routine for your Program, and issue a code (4 / 990 to 4 / 999) by passing the 990-999 value as a parameter. But you can't have a JSR within the definition of an Add-On Instruction. Any way to generate a user-defined Major in an AOI? How about a user-defined Minor? Or do I need to jump to no label, address off the end of an array or TON with a negative preset to generate a Major, then tell people what it means within the context of the AOI? This will be VERY clunky and an OBVIOUS kludge. I'd MUCH rather be able to throw a user-defined major or minor! Thanks for any help!Dale, W8ABZ ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to connect to Logix 5000 tags online I cannot find the correct way to connect to Logix 5000 tags online when using FactoryTalk View Studio for ME. ### Assistant: You may find nice videos about FactoryTalk View at this LINK ; Click on FactoryTalk View Machine Edition Quick Start Videos The one I suggest for your needs is HERE Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Mixing Polled and COS I/O types in DeviceNET Here's the situation:I am going to be using 1790D type I/O on a project. It will consist of several assembliesof the following: 1790D-T16BV0----1790D-T0B16X in other words a base input module with an expansion output module. I will have 10 of these on my network and I want to ensure the input info is read as quickly as possible. The question is:When I map the I/O to the 1756-DNB module, is it OK to map theinputs as COS while the outputs are mapped as Polled? ### Assistant: Yes, this is an allowed configuration. See the document attached to Aid 28753, to better understand how the messagetypes are treated by -DNB module. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-L62 - type 01, code 61 fault We are experiencing these faults in excess of 5 per day. Sometimes, even with nobody online with the processor. We opened a case several days ago, but still no soluton from Rockwell. We have tried everything Rockwell has offered, but with no success. Additionally, I have changed the power supply and the processor. Currently, we are in the process now of flashing the firmware from v16 to v17, and upgrading RSLogix. I believe this however, may have it's own set of inherent problems, but we have to find a solution, this has become an extremely critical issue. Since Rockwell has been unable to provide a solution, does anyone else have a solution to offer?? thanks, alan ### Assistant: As I guess you already know, your Controller detected a non-recoverable fault, thus it clears its memory I guess you have a CF card installed in your Controller, starting from v13 the controller has a feature to write some infos to the CF when faults... see Aid 29551.Otherwise there is also another possibility using the Fault Dump Utility (ask it to Tech Support) to upload serially the fault informations from controller to be analyzed by engineers... Strange is that the same happens with another cpu also....:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I am aware of the fault log in the compact flash. We have sent these files to Rockwell twice. Thanks for your input. alan Whose CF card do you have, and what size? We had similar (but not exact) problems with a non-Rockwell Flash card. The problem probably was the file format, as smaller sized and older cards, between 64-128 MB, did fine while the 1 GB+ cards gave us an error. They still allowed us to save the program to the CF card but we kept getting minor and major faults. Rockwell is probably expecting FAT-16 formatted CF cards, and if you are not using their cards then the larger sized cards are formatted for either FAT-32 or NTFS. This is just a guess on my part, though. If you can, remove the CF card and see if the problem still occurs. Good Luck! We are using 64 mb compact flash cards from AB. thanks, alan Analysis of firmware dump files requires Engineering resources, which requires time. It goes a lot faster if you can provide all the information they need to analyze the files. RA Tech Support probably asked you for the exact controller firmware, the exact revision of RSLogix 5000 and RSLinx Classic that you are using, as well as for additional context information about what devices are connected to the controller, what sort of environment it is in, and if possible some information about what is happening when the fault happens. Other good diagnostic information is whether or not this system has been running for a long time, or if major changes have been made to it. The good news is that the Code 61, instead of Code 60, means that the most available crash data was written to the CompactFlash card. If this were my system, I would first run through the Atmel Chip issue checks to be sure that controllers, network modules, motion modules, etc do not contain any of the unreliable batch of bridge chips from two years ago. Look it up in the Knowledgebase as AID# 40149 or open another Tech Support case to have them walk you through it. I'd also take a very careful look at the controller immediately after it crashes. Does the OK LED go solid red right away, or only after a keyswitch cycle ? I have seen instances where a power cycle of the controller caused a power-up fault, but the root fault was available before the power cycle. This is just a long shot, but check your program for JMP instructions without matching LBL instructions. I had a maddening system that would fault randomly, but it was really when the preconditions for the JMP instruction were true and the controller tried to access the LBL that didn't exist. That was a Type 01 Code 60 fault only after a power cycle. Also check the devices that are connected to the controller. A certain major HMI software vendor with W's in their name had an early HMI driver for ControlLogix that could cause operating system faults by writing to user program memory with their optimized driver. Operating system crashes are rare with ControlLogix. If it's happening multiple times per day, you either have a programming issue that remains, or a piece of hardware that is defective (or multiple defective controllers, which is even less likely) or a very severe installation problem. What more can you tell us about your system ? n"}
{"text": "### Human: ALMD Instruction I'm using the ALMD instruction for my alarming and I want to turn on a siren and light if any alarm is active and unacknowledged, and leave the light on and turn the siren off if alarm is active and acknowledged. Is there common status tags within the logix controller to tell me this data. ### Assistant: You may use the status bits of the instructions... see the attached screenshot... InAlarmUnack has to be used for your first condition (turn on a siren and light)InAlarm and Acked together for your second condition (light on and turn the siren off) For further informations, see the Reference Manual , chapter 1 starting from page 30 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Is it possible to set up the Alarms and Events server to drive this? I'm not familiar with the setup of it, but other HMI's I've seen have the ability for the alarm server to set/clear controller tags for horn, lights, etc. The ones I've seen can do the unacknowledged alarm part. Not sure about the any alarm (acked) part. We've also used in-alarm and unacked-alarm status functions in expressions with traditional SE tag-based alarming to drive animation. You could use Derived Tags with it to drive controller tags based on alarm group status. If you group the alarm tags in folders by controller (vs. other artificial hierarchy -- area), you can use the in-alarm status of the group. Or group them by where your horns and lights are located. Sorry, I'm not in front of a system now to look up the syntax. Perhaps cross-post this issue in an HMI forum..... Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ Thanks Fuzzy Logic.As I have 100+ alarms I was hoping there may be a quicker way. I found something on the knowledge base using RSView to set a tag in the PLC, but I'm not a big fan of using a HMI as control. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex DC Configuration I have a 150HP Powerflex DC drive configured to run a DC motor with Armatuer Current of 242Amp, 400V, 1150rpm, my Field Resistance is 25 Ohm and Armatuer resistance of 0.5 Ohm., When I do the Autotune it coz some fault unknown error what did I miss? ### Assistant: First before you Autotune the drive make sure the motor is uncoupled from the load as it has to be free to rotate. Also, what is the firmware of your DC drive? Its a 2.001 rhon, just a note as per fordtt question.... check to have at least firmware 2.001.17...take a look to the following technote: Aid 56073 - fuzzy logic thanks, it went fine all the way after I upgraded the firmware to 2.001.17. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Application I intend to connect two RSView32 applications on same network with one PLC. The application program is common. I have connected one 1761-AIC+ with Micrologix1500. Connected another 1761-AIC+ on DH485. Then connected PC with RSView32 and RSLinx on first AIC and another PC with RSView32 and RSLinx on the second AIC. The application works on one of the PCs and that too which ever is connected first. Please advise. ### Assistant: Did you give different node number to each of the devices on the network ? I mean PC1, PC2 and Micrologix should have different node numbers... :smileysurprised: Just double check this... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: rslogix 5000 conversion Is there any conversion tool for converting rs5000.acd programs back to rs500.rss programs?Thanks in advance for any input. ### Assistant: Unfortunately no, there isn't. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Rotate a Multi State Indicator? I want to rotate a Multi-State Indicator to 45 degrees. I can rotate it around a point but not rotate the rectangle itself. anyone have a suggestion? Yvon ### Assistant: Yvon, you've already done all what is possible... unfortunately there isn't other possibility to rotate a multistate indicator as you would...:smileysad: I guess you've already considered the possibility to use a rectangle instead (I mean a simple graphic object), giving to it some animations to change its appearence on different tag/expression states... it can also be rotated as you want... - fuzzy logic Didn't think of the rectangle Thanks Fuzzy Yvon n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 500 processor as adapter? Is there any SLC 500 processor that can be set up as an adapter like some of the PLC 5 adapters can? ### Assistant: I guess you're talking about Remote I/O network... well, any SLC processor has the possibility to be connected to a RIO network via the embedded ports...just you have a RIO scanner module (1747-SN) to add in the chassis, and an adapter module (1747-ASB); this last one cannot be placed inside the same chassis of the processor, but it must be the first module of a new one, to be used as remote chassis. edit:Thus, the answer is no, it is not possible... :smileysad: see the following posts....:smileytongue: - fuzzy logic There is one way to make a SLC-500 processor share data with a RIO scanner (like in adapter mode) and that is using a 1747-DCM module. This module is known as a Direct Communications Module and will place up to 1 full rack (8 words) of SLC-500 I/O data on an RIO network. If the DCM is, for instance, in slot 6 then O:6.0-7 will be seen as Inputs mapped to a RIO rack. I:6.0-7 would appear as outputs from RIO. These addresses are I/O in the SLC and in the remote PLC with RIO scanner. Imagine this as being like 128 ins and outs on each processor being hardwired to one another. The rack designation is assigned by dip switches on the DCM in the same manner as an ASB. I may being showing my age on this one...but the DCM is still available. I sold one a few weeks ago. Hope this helps, Bill DaggettKendall Electric Hey Bill, I show more than you the signs of the age... due to my memory I mean... when I was answering to the user who asked this, I was searching around the web for a manual for -DMC, -DSN, -DSB and all the other kind of cat.# you may wonder, as I was remembering the one you mentioned in your post but I was not able to remember the correct name... :smileymad: Anyway, yes, you're right of course, this is the correct answer ! Thanks to make my memory updated with it ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Emulate5 and Factory Talk View ME I have emulate5 running and an dde/opc topic configured in RSLinx to talk to the View ME application. Everything was working fine and then I got an error message on the Emulate5 software. Can't load xxxxxx/xxxxxx/xxxxxx/emu5x.dll from RSLinx directory Any suggestions. ### Assistant: Which is the Emulate 5 version you have? Anyway, take a look (unless already done) to the following technotes: Aid 29665 - Aid 34882 - Aid 37836 Try also to download a different project in the Emulate and see if works...As last test, I may suggest to re-install the software, maybe the last version if applicable... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SCADA Allen Bradley Hello, I would like to make a SCADA system . We have RSView software and RSLogix for Allen Bradley PLCs. What else do I need to be able to create a SCADA system? Please help, thank you! ### Assistant: Hmmm...it is not so clear to me what you want to know...:smileysurprised: So you have RSView (which one ?! Which version ?!) a software for the PLCs (which RSLogix ?! version?!)... Then, you will need a PC to install your HMI software, a PLC compatible with your programming software, and to select it you have at least to know how many I/O you need to control, how they should be distributed through a network to cover your application... the kind of the signals you have to manage... I think you have to be more specific on the request... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connecting two 1756-ENBT/A Can I connect two 1756-ENBT/A ethernet cards directly (no switch) with a straight ethernet cable, or do I need a crossover cable to do this? Thanks ### Assistant: You will need a crossover cable to do it.... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Ok. Thank you! n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to connect remote OPC server in RSViewSE? I'd like to connect the OPC server(Kepware Linkmaster) on another PC.Now I'm able to connect the OPC Server with some OPC client tools on RSViewSE HMI Server. But I can't connect it in my RSViewSE HMI applicastion.The error message is Failed to connect to browse server for OPC server //$Global/<Application name>:<OPC data server name>(result=80004005).By the way, If I install kepware Linkmaster on RSviewse HMI Server and connect it in HMI application,it does work (It means that it can conncect local OPC server but can't connect remote OPC server.Is there anyone have the experience. Thanks a lot. ### Assistant: Not really have had experience with it, but in the following technote you could find something that helps... Aid 52724 The error you get in fact means the data server is improperly configured... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MATC Instruction Halt Hi there, I've an interesting situation where an MATC (Motion Axis Time Cam) Instruction will enable, but hangs forever causing the machine to basically halt program execution. This only happens when the first time this portion executes. After I go in and clear out that instruction, by resetting the Enable bit, everything runs fine. This is not recoverable at the user level. Here's a screen shot of when the program halts: Thanks for any help, suggestios or advice provided, I'll check back. Controller 1756-L63Revision 16.2 ### Assistant: instead of unlatching the matc.en bit, try clr(matc.flags) n"}
{"text": "### Human: AB 1400 and analog module error?? Hello I`m installing a micrologix 1400 with a 1762lf-20f2 analog card to measure level in a sump 4-20 input and I`m getting fault on plc I have i/o config set up the analog module in my project and have the input type selection switches on for current and have set bit 8 and 9 to 1 in the bits 8-14 section for the card.I must have missed something please help. ### Assistant: Which is the error do you get ? If it is 71h, then take a look to Aid 57693 to see if it applies to you... otherwise, please post again with more info on fault... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I/O configuration mismatch, check module 1. The expansion I/O configuration in the user program did not match the actual configuration, or specified a module that was not found, or the data size for the module was greater than what the module is capable of holding. The above is the error message. and major error s:6 =187hThis is first time working with these products so I`ve missed something in the set up. I don`t have the card used in the program as of yet I`m attempting to program. But I do have it in the run mode.Could this be a problem? This error is related to the fact the module you've specified in your I/O configuration doesn't correspond to the one installed in the hardware... if you've not inserted it in the I/O configuration and it is installed in the system, than the error will come... if you have it configured and just not used in the logic, no problems... Sometimes this error also comes due to hardware failure, or faulty connection between module and base .... See also Aid 36653 - fuzzy logic ok I have tried the analog card on a 1200 and it works.I have the following 1400 serA if20f2 serA I have the switch 1 and 2 inside the card set on for current.I go to I/O config and select read i/o and it selects the correct card from the list. I double click and select current 4-20 on my inputs and outputs.With no other programing I down load and go online and as soon as I run mode faults to 71h.I have just replaced the 1400 today my vendor sent a replacement so help help. I called back to tech support this am and they send me on electrical noise hunt. So I pulled the controller and installed a surge on my desk and still faults got to be something I`m missing. Kudos to Dennis Jungmann at McNaughton-McKay Electric Co. He has solved the case. It appears I need to download a bit of software for the card I have to work on the ML1400.Thanks to all who assisted.Bulletin 1766, MicroLogix 1400 Programmable Controllers Series A, 71h Error Code Only when using MicroLogix 1400 controllers with the following expansion modules:1762-OF4 Series A Revision B/C1762-IF2OF2 Series A Revision D/E,Some users may observe a 71h fault occurring in the MicroLogix 1400 Controller, especially when the scan time is approximately 150 μs or less. Resolution:Get Firmware updare (4.0) from: Thanks Dennis You Da Man n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem Loading PanelView Application into Panel Builder 32 I have a problem bringing up a PanelView 900 (cat ### Assistant: Try to see the following: Problem:Error seen when:Trying to open an uploaded .PVA file from a remote locationTrying to open .PBA file created and saved on local drive.Cause:Directory string is too long. Possible Cures:Copy the .PVA file to your local computer, Upload Destination: Select Upload application to temporary file and open in PanelBuilder32Copy the .PBA file to C:Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using a powermonitor 1000 with RSview ME I would like to bring some of the powermonitor datatables into a RSviewMe application. I am using Ethernet to communicate. When I create the shortcut I can see an online folder. I right click and try to refresh. The online folder will not populate with tags. Is it possible to communicate directly or will I have to use messaging to send the data to a PLC before I can monitor the information? ### Assistant: Hey Scott, I've never tried this using RSLinx Enterprise, so really I don't know if works... just I know about the usage of RSLinx Classic OPC to do this (Aid 54733).However, try to take a look to Aid 33198... there is also a list of other technotes that could help, related to the PLC Online folder empty issue.... Assuming RSLinx Enterprise will work (and this is not documented) there are some limitations of Direct Referencing,like for example if the processor is a MicroLogix 1100, prior to release 5.0 of Studio, this processor does not support online browsing. Addresses will need to be added manually... maybe also powermonitor need this to be done... Apologize to have outlined this *roughly*... just trying to give some help... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Bits and words descriptions for RSLogix 5 block instructions such as PID (PD data file) Is there anyone who have a comprehensive description of the bits and words for all the blocks used in RSLogix 5? I have only found bits and pieces in the help file. For example, *.CT in PD data file ### Assistant: Did you already see in the Instruction Set Reference Manual ? PID is in chapter 14... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes, I found the doc. It is good. Thank you very much. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT SE Trend I am trying to dynamically change the time my trend displays. I want to be able to push a button and view 30 minutes or 1 hour etc. Is there an easy way to do this? ### Assistant: Yes, there are some possibility to interact with Trends, for example using VBA code... I suggest to take a look to the following: Aid 34846 - to change the Time SpanAid 35321 - to change Start Time using calendar controlthis POST - similar request as yours Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Virtual Computer Is it possible to transfer an EVRSI type of activation to a Virtual Computer? I am using microsoft virtual PC to run XP on a vista machine and I can load the rockwell software, but so far have failed at getting the activations to transfer. ### Assistant: It should work. I've done it plenty of times on a VMWare virtual machine;I'd imagine VirtualPC to work similarly. Are you transferring from a floppy master disk to the virtual machine? Make sure the floppy is getting exclusively mounted in the virtual machine. JHutch Thanks for letting me know that it will work, now that I know it is possible I will try some other methods to see if I can find an option that works. The computer I am using does not have a floppy drive. I loaded the activation on to a USB flash drive and then moved it to a shared folder (shared as a network drive and shared with the VM). I had read that Virtual PC did not allow direct USB access so I did not try loading directly from the flash drive. I've done this over a network share before when there are floppy or USB 'issues' - works great in VMWare (note - most Rockwell training classes are done with virtual machines - to allow easy resetting of the enviroment) Since often having multiple Virtual Computer environments can often lock out a floppy drive, if you have problems, move the license to the host environement, then map a network drive and move it to the virtual environment. Also, you can use the EvMoveCF utility to move it from a usb stick. Past that, as long as the file system is NTFS or FAT32 you should be ok. Any of the other file systems, you will run into problems. My only attempt at setting this up has actually been to share a folder on the host PC then use the host PC (Vista) to move from the CF drive to the shared folder. I then mapped this folder as a shared folder in the virtual PC and tried to move from that shared drive (it shows up as a network drive in the VC) to the local virtual drive. Since I am not sure if it is a drive mapping isse, a Vista issue or a virtual drive sharing issue (or smething else that I do not know ould be a problem) I am going to try using an XP computer to move the activation to a real network drive, but I have not had time to get both machines on the same network so that I can try again. I will let you know if it works over the network. Microsoft virtual PC, the last time I used it, only allowed me to transfer EVRSI files from a mounted floppy drive or I was able to do it with a CD-RW. No other method....ie...network, shared folder, usb drive......allowed me to tranfer sucsessfully. If you are going to use Microsft Virtual PC, buy a $20 USB floppy drive and save yourself some headaches. I did use a USB floppy drive and got the activation moved, but even that method was a battle. The Virtual PC locked up several times while accessing the drive. Thanks for the warning about not wasting time on a network install. Of course if you waste your time on Microsoft products you end up wasting your time. I have never had a hint of these problems using VMWare even on a Linux host. Although we are not all going to go out and buy vmware esx server, the free virtual pc product gets most users started in the right direction. It is nice to know that Microsoft products run much better on a Linux platform. Thank you for your input badmojo. I think VMWare is so good that I bought VMWare Workstation 5 and then upgraded to 6. I haven't used ESX Server, but if you need a server version and don't want to pay then VMWare server is free (again I haven't used it so this is not a recomendation). I first recommended virtualisation to a client to over come legacy issues (Windows 95/98) wouldn't run very well on modern PCs. I demonstrated with a DOS Guest, running IPDS 6200 PLC3 development software. The VM wont see a KT card but it'll connect via RS232 and the correct KE/KF box. I have also demonstrated Step7 in a VM, no problems here. In fact by far the biggest success to date was allowing multiple versions of WinCC Flexible to be run on the same laptop (all in their own VM of course). Sorry if it seems like I'm a nay-sayer, but I think I should point out that we (Rockwell Automation) do not currently support virtual PCs for production. You can see that in answer 30209: There is currently no support for virtualization in production environments. However, Rockwell Software recognizes the trend towards virtualization, and certain products are likely to support virtual environments in the future. One known limitation of virtual platforms is the general inability to access devices that reside on the host computer's bus (ISA, PCI, PCMCIA, etc). This severely limits the ability of a virtual machine to access communication interface devices that reside on the bus. Generally speaking, the only types of devices that Rockwell products can access are those that appear to the operating system as COM ports, USB ports, or are accessed through the Winsock stack. It used to just say a blanket no, so I think that is promising. We use virtual PCs extensively in training and support. I have found no problems running any Rockwell product that are attributable to the Virtualisation (yet). I have, however, only used them with the old style (eversi) activation and have no idea how they will cope with the new activation (FactoryTalk) (but I don't know how real PCs are going to cope with that either). The VMs have already paid for them selves by allowing a quick restart on many occassions when early versions of RSViewStudio trashed development machines.:smileywink: Kurt I had seen that Rockwell does not support Vista or virtual PC's, but I had been to a training session and saw that the labs were all run on virtual machines. Since it is not supported I looked here for information instead of Rockwell tech support. Since it will not access some communication options I need it does not look like I will be able to abandon my win 2K laptop for a while. Depending on what you are doing and why, you could set up RSLinx gateway that the VM image accesses I'm using RSLogix 5000, RsLogix 500, RSNetworx, Factory View SE and RsLinx Enterprise all over a VM Ware 6.5 machine (with OS Windows XP SP2 English) using the Factory Talk Activation Tools and is working perfect! Best Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Entire motor description to add a motor to Ultraware - Ultra3000 Hello,I want to program a Ultra3000 (2098-DSD-005X), but the servo (TLY-A130T-HJ64AA) that I want to use is not available on the motor model menu on the properties Motor window. I know that is possible to add a new motor with the Motor configuration app, but I do not know the entire description (feedback, ratings, electrical, etc.) Anybody knows where I can find this info or if the motor.mdb file was updated??Thanks :) ### Assistant: The TLY motor must use the correct motion database to select the motor. Following are the steps to import the motion database into Ultraware so as to be able to select the TLY motor. 1. Typically when you load Ultraware the configuration file developed is C:Program FilesRockwell AutomationUltraware. 2. There is a Motors.mdb in this specific folder. 3. Copy the motors_01_10_08.mdb to this location. 4. Right mouse click on the Motors.mdb to properties and find the last modified date to it. Then, rename this file with the date. For instance, the file in this folder is last modified July 05, 2007 so label this file as Motors_07_05_08.mdb. 5. Change the motors_01_10_08.mdb to Motors.mdb so it is the motors database that Ultraware will read from. .mdb file is in Aid 39505 and newer is in Aid 50909 (motors_10_03_08.mdb) ... the last need you to have a valid TechConnect Contract to enter.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you!!! have a nice day n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View Studio (5.00) only one question :) Hallo, I would like to now, how can I upload and edit program from PanelView? I have allready installed FT View Studio (5.00). I can upload application from PanelView 1000 by Transfer Utility and save on my computer as *.mer file. But i don't know how can I edit it. Can anybody help me? Best regards, Przemysław B. ### Assistant: To restore the .mer file to an editable application, you have to use the Application Manager... see attached screenshot... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Only an MER created in FTView Studio 5.00 can be converted back into a Studio development project. If any of the following apply, the MER cannot be converted back into Studio:- MER created in FTView Studio 4.0 or earlier- MER compiled for ME Station 4.0 or earlier- MER was password protected in FTView Studio 5.0 (you would need the password in that case)- MER was created with FTView Studio 5.0 to explicity deny conversion to development (to protect work of the person who created it). If the MER file was created in/for version 4.0 or earlier, try the following technote:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=8913 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Disable Pop alarm screen on PVP I am writing a new PVP program and woudl like to use the pre-canned alarm list, alarm ack buttons... but do not want the alarm screen to pop up every time a new alarm occurs. Is there a way to disable the alarm screen from popping up, but still use the alarms within FT View Studio. Thanks ### Assistant: If you do not want the alarm display to pop:Uncheck the Display option for all alarm messages on the Messages tab in Alarm Setup. This option calls the configured alarm display to the foreground. This is useful when using multiple displays with Alarm List Objects inserted for continuous alarm information.Alternatively one can:In the advanced tab of the alarm setup make sure the field for Current Alarms Display is empty.Then you will need a goto button to open up the multiline alarm display manually, it will not open automatically when an alarm is triggered because the field was left empty in the previous step.Now when you open the multiline alarm display and ack all the alarms the display will stay open until the close button is pressed. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, I did figure it out and I got it running just like your alternate solution. This was exactly what I was looking for. We keep an alam display on the bottom of all our screens and have a dedicated screen that will show all alarms and allow acknowledging. The pop-ups are real annoying. Thanks again Just a thought, but what you describe sounds more like a local message display than an alarm. JHutch Somewhat, but I still want the alarm characteristics, like the latching in the alarms until acknowledged. The acknowledging of alarms, and the alarms to go away after acknowledged and cleared. I also want a list where I can show all the outstanding alarms. I just don't care for the pop-up window. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View SE Client Users Guide Is there a Users Guide available for the client of FactoryTalk View SE? I would like something that describes how to do things, like manipulate trends, use data entry fields, etc. So I don't have to retype, or direct my customer to read the Studio users guide, which has much more information to sort through.... Thank you ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a Getting Results Guide like you're searching for.... :smileysad: You have the Online Help in the software, the User's Guide, and a collection of Best Practices in Aid 37110... Not really something made for the End Users..... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Thank you for the information. I guess I have to question why Rockwell Software does not provide this in a usable format for end users then? There just seems to be a lot of options in the software that are really not explained anywhere, so the only way to know what they do is to experiment. An issue I have with that is that whatever it is I come up with to tell my customer how to use certain features, may not be the bst method or even fully correct, because I can only tell them what I know, based on what I discover during the development cycle. I think FactoryTalk View is a great product, but it shouldn't be up to individual users to have hunt down and figure out all the features. Regards I can only tell them what I know, based on what I discover during the development cycle. This is part of the issue, actually. You, as the developer, can choose to expose different features or use different controls based on your customer's needs & requests. I understand what you mean though about maybe not knowing everything about trending (for example) and then being expected to explain it to your customer because you chose to put a trend display in their application. Even though it's part of the developer's user guide, all of the main controls like trending or alarm summaries are explained. A lot of integrators put together a small manual for their customers to help them with their particular application, including any relevant sections from the developer's guide/online help as necessary. Are there any specific options in the software that you truly can't find explained anywhere? That's a different issue but one that we can definitely address. One other under utilized source of information is the various release notes that aren't easily accessible. Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellHelp contains many release note files that do provide valuable information. I agree on the need for a Getting Results Guide. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Dialogic DNA 3.3? Where can I get ahold of this software? I can't find it on the dialogic site, but this KB article says I need it. Suggested installation procedure for the Dialogic D/4PCI voice card. ### Assistant: Hey Justin, I've tried a deep search about it, but no way to find it out. The Support link at Dialogic is now changed (the one in the technote is broken), but also there there isn't a way to get the DNA....I think this is pretty old software (maybe obsolete, it was for Win NT / 2000 ?!) and the only way I see is to contact them directly to ask for it... :smileysurprised: Afraid not to be able to help you more... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic What an ordeal. I'll post this here so if somebody else has probelms with this very popular card ( 15 years ago) they may get through it. Dialogic no longer hosts or supports DNA 3.3; good luck getting the software from them. They did tell me that their newer DIVA software will not work with the card, so if you've downloaded and installed it, get rid of it because it will interfere with the card. I found the DNA software here: ftp.oaisys.com under the /pub/downloads/dialogic/legacy directory, just by manually combing their FTP site once I saw a link to the v5.1 software on their webpage. Lucky find. Once you download and install the v3.3 and 3.3sp1, you just need to run the diagnostics to make sure the card is good, and start the service. I ALSO had to get the Microsoft DAO 3.5 package, which is just as much a pain to find, as I was having this issue: KB 4518 Rockwell can't distribute this and I don't think it's included with RSView32. I was finally able to track it down on a 3rd party site. If you have or have heard of these cards, you might want to get this software and bank it. I've uploaded a torrent of the software; I'll seed it as long as my computer remains intact (not always that long, I tend to experiment too much). http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4949922 Well, TPB seems to be having technical difficulties. You can just get it from my FTP then - reaper.selfip.net, username: RAUser As a good and legitimate use for The Pirate Bay! The social rebel in me is smiling as it holds hands with the corporate employee singing campfire songs! JHutch ;) n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View images sources Does anybody know where to find bitmap files to use with FactoryTalk View ? I mean more than the images already embedded in the Library of the software. ### Assistant: hmmmmm... any .bmp file will import. Also .jpg files will import. Pictures, images, autocad saves; all these can be imported into the images library and used by SE. Thanks jperando for your reply... Ok, that is clear.I remember some years ago, there was a forum, RSView32 forum, where there was the possibility to download also some utilities, like some beautiful and useful images already done and ready for import and use... an extension to the library. I mean something like this, to not stay hours in front of a PC to draw new images... :smileysurprised: Everything Rockwell has is in the built-in library. We didn't hold anything back. I wouldn't be surprised if someone out in the wild has some supplemental libraries that they've made available, but we don't have anything else (unless you could things like faceplates, but those are groups of objects, not images). JHutch Fuzzy, I remember those RSView32 libraries. FYI, they still exist and can be imported into SE. You can find them in tech note 34729. It's been a while since I've done this, but I seem to recall that you can unzip the .GFX files, go to FTView Studio's Graphic Editor, do File-> Open and navigate to the .GFX. They get converted to SE format once you do this. Wow ! That is what I was searching for ! :smileyvery-happy: Many thanks JonathanKent; there are many useful images there and I'm able to import them in ViewSE. Unfortunately it isn't possible to import them also in ViewME like explained here: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=51464 But this is not a big problem.... :smileywink: Thanks Again.- fuzzy logic Yeah, conversion is an uphill process - you can convert from RSView32 or ME to SE, but not downhilll from SE or side-to-side between RSView32 and ME. I've even tried saving an SE graphic to XML, but the format is different in RSView32 and ME, so that's not a very practical way to convert. Hopefully you were looking for SE libraries, not ME. :smileymad: Export and Import using xml is not possible: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=41900 The file format is different, it isn't possible also to copy and paste a single object... Seems to not be easy.... :smileysad: In this case I was searching graphics for SE... about ME...it's a pity ! Thanks,- fuzzy logic refer to my other post for details on migrating from SE to ME http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=FTStudio&thread.id=1348 n"}
{"text": "### Human: PID output stuck at zero Compact logix processor. (version 11 logix 5000)Rung is true, set point and limits set. Feed back coming in. Out output stays at zero.Setpoint does not match actual. Its a program to controll a process fan using a diff pressure transmitter for feedback. An existing program that came with used equipment. Setpoint is accessed through a Panel View 550. Is there some way that this PID could have been turned off? ### Assistant: Need more information. Can you post the program or at least some screenshots of the logic for the PID? I cannot seem to post the .acd file. I'll have to send a screen shot on Monday. I have the program but Logix 5000is on my other laptop. Yes, agree with gmferg... In the meanwhile, you may try to take a look to the following technotes... Aid 40236Aid 43763 They may help.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I found a timer tucked in that delayed the output.I also found that some one set it really high. PID settings were messed up as well/ You never know what you will find changed on used equipment n"}
{"text": "### Human: Modern RS Messenger? So it looks like Messenger is slipping slowly into legacy status along with RSView32, with FactoryTalk being the replacement. Is there a messenger equivalent for FactoryTalk? Does it have the capability to send voice or text via a phone line? ### Assistant: Nothing new in the works from Rockwell, but Spectre Instruments makes Win 911, which has improved Dialogic support. Tech note 52456 has a link to their web site, which is http://www.specterinstruments.com/ Win911 works with with RSView32 and SE, so I don't forsee any major developments from Rockwell to irev Messenger. I agree with you, Messenger is basically in a maintenance mode. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Analog to scaled output Are there some example programing funtions avalable?I have a 4-20 input coming to plc and would like to scale the raw data to a usable 0-100 percent units for use in the program I`m new to plc`s somewhat any advice would be great.Thanks ### Assistant: You can do programming for the scaling, but the easiest is to set this for the analog input in the IO-tree. In this example channel 1 from the 1734-IE2C has a scaling from 0 to 4000 when the current is 4-20mA.I divide it in the PLC program by 10 to have a range from 0 to 400.0mm. Like it did, if you scale the output to 0 - 400mm, you loose digits (this tag in the program is an integer). Better to scale from 0 to 4000 and in your PLC program divide it by 10 to get an result from 0.0mm to 400.0mm. success, Cee Ya OK I have a if20f2 analog card and the input is from 500- 7400 looking at my raw data. What I want to do is display 0- 100% full level of a tank 300,000 gallons.Just not sure of how to set it up. take a look at the manual. it seems that your tag in the plc will go from 0 to 32760 (page 14), being 4 to 20mAOf course the card must be correct configured (page 16+17). The scaling must be done in the plc program:tanklevel% = (rawdata-500)/69 success Reel-Break, In RSLogix 500, you can use the SCL (scale) instruction. Click on Help, Instruction Help, and select the SCL box for more info. In RSLogix 5000, you can use a CPT (compute) instruction. The general form of the the expression to use for scaling (any input min/max to any output min/max) is: CPT Out (Inp-InpMin)/(InpMax-InpMin)*(OutMax-OutMin)+OutMin For Output range of 0 to 100, this reduces to: CPT Out (Inp-InpMin)/(InpMax-InpMin)*100.0 Use REAL tags for the mins and maxes to force floating point math so you don't overflow an integer on the multiply or lose precision on the divide. The SCL instruction is one of those that should have made it into Logix 5000. But the CPT is easy enough, it's not a big issue. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: RATE LIMITER HI FELLOWS?I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE FUNCTION RATE LIMITER (RLIM ). I ATTACH THE PICTURE WHICH SHOWS THE ATTRIBUTE VALUES. IN THIS EXAMPLE HOW THE DELTA T IS CALCULATED OR FIX VALUE?HOW CAN I CALCULATE THE SLOPE?I WANT TO CLEAR ONE THING MOSTLY IN FUNCTION BLOCKS I SEE THAT THE STATEMENTS ARE WRITTEN AS:OUT n-1=IN ni understand that 'n' is the number of array element? am i right?but in some functions there is no array for data and there what meanings of 'n'.please guide mei am very thankful to the forum members ### Assistant: Ahmad, Many of the instructions use an incremental instead of absolute type of calculation -- the PIDE is a prime example. So they calculate the increment (difference) to adjust the output this scan from the output the previous scan. The descriptions of these instructions use n like a scan count. The description you provided indicates the the input this scan (scan n) is set equal to the output from the previous scan (scan n-1) -- then a difference/increment is computed to set the new output. For the rate limiter, the calculation is simply the change in the input value from the previous scan. For the timing modes of instructions like rate lim, integral, PIDE, etc., if you installed the online books (probably so), go to Help -- Online Books, and select the Instructions item in the left bar. Open the Logix5000 Process and Drives instruction manual (Pub 1756-RM006E-EN-P Jul 2008) and check out Timing Modes in Appendix A starting on page 369. Chances are you can use the default timing mode (0, Periodic) and not have to do anything. The instruction will use the time since it was last executed. If you are rate limiting an input that is coming in with Real Time Sampling (RTS) or a CST timestamp, you might use one of the other modes to get a more accurate or less bouncy (jittery) rate. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: (2) 1756 ENBT/A's with same subnet in same rack... Any reason why you couldn't put (2) 1756-ENBT/A's in the same CLogix chassis with the same subnet? (Example - Slot 1 has a module with IP address of 192.168.5.90/24 and Slot 2 has a module with an IP address of 192.168.5.190/24). Both modules are physically connected to seperate switches, which in turn connect to seperate networks. ### Assistant: Gregory, No problem. In fact, if the networks are truly isolated from each other (no IP routing path from one to the other), the ENBTs could have the same IP address. Ethernet protocol never makes it onto the chassis. Routing on the chassis side (from the chassis connector on) is done via CIP by a (port,node;port,node...) relative routing. You could even have two ENBTs with different IPs but on the same subnet (as you have yours) on the same switch. They are just two independent nodes on the same subnet as far as the Ethernet side is concerned. Where you'll run into trouble is if the separate networks find a path to each other -- two independent subnets with identical subnet number (192.168.5.x mask 255.255.255.0) will mess up the routing on the network in between that finds a path betwen them. Long story short: It'll work, but you better truly not have a path between these independent subnets! Best of luck! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC-5 Hello everybody, have a nice dayi have a question, i´m working whit a PLC-5/40E, currently it´s conected to a pc with Cimplicity, but i made the same aplication into a panel view 1000 standard. the question is:Can the PLC works conected whit the Cimplicity across de channel 2 via ethernet, and the PV 1000 across the channel A via DH+? ### Assistant: Sure thing. In fact, if you have an Ethernet capable PV, *both* devices could be communicating across Ethernet to the PLC. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can not see Panelview IP address in RSWho I have several PLCs and Panelview on a line. It contains SLC500s, MircoLogixs, ControlLogixs, and PanelviewPlus 1000s, and 1 Panelview 1000. It is all on Ethernet. I am trying to upload the Panelview 1000 program to modify it and I can not see it on the network (Who Active). Eveything else is working fine and I can go online with everything else. It talks to a SLC505 processor just fine. I have tried connecting to it directly with different cables and Ethernet switch. I have tried to change the IP settings and everything else I can think of. Any ideas how to upload/download to this Panelview? I am at my wits end on this one.It is a 2711-T10C20, I have the latest RSLinx Classic, I have tried three different notebook PCs. The IP to the Panelveiw is 10.0.0.13. Nothing shows up under this IP. ### Assistant: The PV standards are old in Ethernet terms. Means you have to use the Ethernet Devices driver instead of the Ethernet/IP driver and manually add the PV's IP address in the driver config. NOTE: The two drivers seem to coexist just fine on my box, so you don't have to fiddle with the existing driver, just add the Ethernet Devices driver and Bob's yer uncle! :) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Managing Windows Updates I know that CPR 9 does not support Windows XP SP3. Does anyone have a good method for installing the security patches that have been qualified to run with this CPR? I know that Rockwell provides a list of qualified patches (http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=35530), but if we install them one at a time, it will be very time consuming. The main issue for us is getting security updates on FactoryTalk View SE machines. ### Assistant: Where do these machines reside? The should be protected by an internal firewall or security appliance and not have access to the outside world or directly connected to networks that do. The reason for the security patches from Microsoft are to protect security holes in their software or operating system. Once required patches are installed and your system is up an running great, then once it's moved behind the firewall there shouldn't be any real concern for the security patches but just software update patches required by Rockwell to coincide with their (Rockwell) patches. When you apply rockwell patches, the Patch File Validator will often flag Microsoft patches that need to be installed first, then re-run the validator or re-apply the patches. On a control system, you want to really know each and every patch applied, when, and what it supposedly corrects. We have machines that's been running great on Windows 2000, no patches, no updates....they just run. I know it really doesn't answer the question but and it's a pain to apply ALL the patches but the reality of it is you probably don't need to apply all or any of them and when you do...you want to make certain of what it supposedly fixes....or screws up. While I can see your reasoning for certain types of vulnerabilities (ie, ones that originate from outside and attack your computer), there are also vulnerabilities that are internally triggered (ie, surfing websites, etc.) that firewalls and proxies can't always protect against. And we won't even begin to discuss the havoc that can be caused by carrying a USB thumbdrive between your work computer and your unprotected HOME computer ... But, that's really neither here nor there to the original question. It's a philosophical difference. To the original poster, sorry, I don't have a better method for you. JHutch Thank you both for your input. There is a nice tool called Sitekeeper that will let you automate your Microsoft updates and other program updates pretty easily. If you do have a list of updates you know are safe, you only have to set it up on the Sitekeeper server tool and it will automaticly install only those updates across your network. Good recommendation. We do use Windows Software Update Services (WSUS) from Microsoft on the office side of our network. I think it functions pretty similarly to Sitekeeper. The reason we don't do this with RS View machines is because I want to control the delivery and installation a little more closely. I will take a look at Sitekeeper and see if it would let me get the control i want. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk SE Network User Hi folks,I would like to know if it is possible to know what user is currently logged into the Factory Talk SE Network application?I would like to be able to post this data on a graphic display and also use it in the generation of a report. Thanks in advance.Tom JandrokovicCleveland Motion Controls ### Assistant: Have you tried the CurrentUserName property? Look this up in the Studio Help file and it explains how to use it. In addition to the CurrentUserName, you can use tech note 51578 to read the full Windows linked user name. In addition to the basic user name, you can display the Windows description of that user name. For example, in Windows you might create a user named NEO with a description of Thomas Anderson. The VBA code allows you to retrieve the Thomas Anderson, while CurrentUserName only retrieves NEO. Hope that helps. Thanks folks.Problem solved. n"}
{"text": "### Human: AssetCentre Backups failing. I have a backup schedule created to backup and compare 7 Control Logix PLCs. 6 of them complete but one fails every time. The event log produces the following error: Status: Logix 5000 Error: Backup/Save threw Unexpected ExceptionCCLX_Proc::Upload() - EXCEPTION - RxE_INVALID_ATTRIBUTE_VALUE - The attribute value is invalid - a default value will be used Actions taken:Created a backup & compare for just the faulting PLC -- got same errorCreated standard backup -- same errorUsed another version of the ACD file -- same errorRemoved and re-added the PLC -- same errorFrom the Agent PC, I can go online, upload, compare, and do all the steps AssetCentre would have it do with no problems. Hardware: 1756-L63Firmware: 16.20 This setup is nearly identical to another in the same backup schedule. Any ideas? ### Assistant: I don't have much experience with AssetCentre, but the error message reminds me of one I have seen with RSNetWorx for DeviceNet. I would check the I/O Configuration in RSLogix5000 and make sure it matches the actual hardware. In many cases, the I/O Config may contain a different series or revision module than the actual hardware. If the keying is set for Compatible or Disabled, the processor won't care. Some of the software products don't care, but some do. Possibly AssetCentre is one of those. n"}
{"text": "### Human: String display and language support I have a few String Display objects that contain expressions which reference strings. For example: If (condition == 1) then Fault else OK I would like to change this to allow the display to handle other languages. What is the recommended way to do this for FactoryTalk View ME? Regards, Frank ### Assistant: Plain language switching won't work. How about this expression?: If LanguageTag = English Then If (condition == 1) Then Fault Else OKElse If (condition == 1) Then Translation for Fault Else Translation for OK You might want to consider using a multistate display. You can get rid of the borders and background colors so that it looks like a normal text string. The good thing about using multistates is that you can export the text, translate, and use the standard language switching. What would you recommend, a multistate display or a local message display? It seems the text for both of these can be exported. I'd probably use a multistate. The if-then-else that you posted above would fit perfectly into a 2-state multistate. n"}
{"text": "### Human: CLX Redundancy Fail Dear All,We have install CLX Redundancy (with RSLogix5K V11) couple years ago at our client site (2002).Yesterday they call us that they found the secondary chassis disqualify; and SRM module at primary chassis has shown ???? at its LCD.Anyone could sugest us what happening and what we have to do? Thanks in advance Suharyoko ### Assistant: To well diagnose what happens to your redundancy sytem, is important to know also what the CNBs modules display... there are several possible causes that could generate this issue and it is not so easy to obtain a solution through a forum I think... :smileysad: Anyway, I can suggest to follow the troubleshooting in Chapter 6 of Redundancy System User ManualAlso, you may find what '????' over SRM's display means in its Installation Instructions .... the SRM is Resolving a Transition (see the flowchart of powerup sequence). ...easy check to do.... :smileysurprised: do you have -ENBT modules in redundancy chassis ? In case, be sure they are both connected to Ethernet network, otherwise the system will remain disqualified. If you want to add more detailed infos, it could be possible to try to help you better :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Blending two indexed moves Platform: Ultra3000 with indexing, configured with Ultraware Is there a way to blend two indexed moves?I would like to continue a move with another without stopping. ### Assistant: You may obtain this using the highlighted settings of the screenshot, taken from Index Setup of Ultraware... In the Next Index field you have to put the index number to execute when Action When Complete isn't set to Stop. The Help in the Ultraware explains those parameters pretty well. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation History My company has 5 activations in our toolkit and we know where 4 of them have been assigned, but don't know where the 5th one has been assigned. Is there somewhere on the RA website to look up which ID's the activations are assigned to? ### Assistant: My suggestion is to call in the Activation guys at Rockwell Automation Tech Support, they will be able to help you on that. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Cleaning agents and PanelView/touch screens/Versaview The facility is reviewing the use of cleaning agents and their use on our automation HMIs in a bio-tech facility. Is there any resource on which agents to use/not to use on Allen Bradley HMIs and Monitors? ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 37485 - Aid 22501 - Aid 28400 User Manuals or Installation Instructions reports (sometimes :smileysurprised: ) these informations... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alias Topics in FTView ME Is it possible to have Alias Topics/Nodeswitch functionality in FTView ME/RSLinx Enterprise, similar to what is available in RSView 32? I know that it is possible to have Alias Topics in RSLinx Classic, if someone has a workaround/method to implement a similar concept in RSLinx Enterprise, it would be very helpful.. ### Assistant: Sorry, Alias topics only exist in RSLinx Classic. The closest that RSLinx Enterprise gets to that is if you are using SE. Then you could have a redundant data server so that if the primary is unavailable for some reason, the secondary could take over. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FLOW CHART AND LADDER LOGIC HI FELLOWSI WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE TURBINE CONTROL LOGIC DEVELOPED BY USING RS LOGIX5000. CAN I MAKE THE FLOW CHART OF COMPLETE LOGIC? OR ANY OTHER TIP HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND COMPLETE LOGIC?THANKS FOR GUIDNESS ### Assistant: Ahmad, Not sure I understand which of two things you wish to accomplish. Do you want to create a printed listing of all the code so you can examine it at your leisure? Or do you wish to generate some kind of design document based on the code? For a printed listing, use the File | Print Options dialog to set up options, then use File | Print to print a particular routine, etc., or File | Generate Report to print a number of selected Programs, Routines, Tags, etc. I don't know of any tool to take Logix 5000 code and back out some kind of design document. An SFC listing is a pretty good State Diagram design document in its own right. (I've used the SFC editor with just comments for the Steps to design state-based code.) An FBD listing is a pretty good Data Flow Diagram for a function block control strategy. LD is so close to the hardware, a utility would have to be like a disassembler to give you something higher level, and my experience is that you can't get meaningful disassembly of microprocessor code to C source without at least the symbol table. (Yes, I know, you have the tag database......) Still, the basic problem is that the LD code may not have been designed from the beginning using flowchart methods. I use whatever design method seems to fit the problem: a command/response method sometimes, a step number/state diagram method other times, dataflow diagrams, whatever -- not just flowcharts. In addition, a flowchart usually involves places where the code waits until something happens -- blocking code -- which doesn't happen in LD unless you code a loop that potentially trips the watchdog timer. So I don't think you'll find a tool to extract a flowchart from some chunk of code. If you find one, let us know! I have a few interesting rungs I'd like to throw at it to test it! Best of luck, Ahmad! Regards,Dale, W8ABZ Ahmad, My apologies. My answer was incomplete. I addressed the flowchart part but not the understanding part. When I am trying to understand what a piece of code does (especially if the comments are lost), I usually start from a particular input or output (usually output) and trace how it is used or generated using the cross-reference window. Say I want to understand what makes an OTE go true. I right-click on the operand of one of the input instructions (XIC, XIO, etc.) on the rung and select cross-reference. I'll find the instance the cursor is on, plus other references. Use the destructive? column to see what has control of that bit. A destructive reference is one that destroys the old value of the tag -- a WRITE, like OTE, OTL, OTU, MOV destination, CPT destination, etc. Non-destructive references only read and do not modify the tag. Examples are XIC, XIO, and inputs to MOV, etc. A TON is destructive for its done (.DN) bit, other references to this bit will almost certainly be non-destructive. Also, check out the report options -- you can print reports with cross-reference information added to assist you with this task. It's not automated and it's time consuming, but with a little practice (with lots of people waiting on you at 2 am during a startup!!!) you'll get good at it! Best of luck!Dale, W8ABZ No programming language is perfect. Ladder Logic is a graphical, multi-tasking programming language. You can think of every rung as being a separate task. It can easily deal with hundreds of fault interrupts at the same time. It is kind of scary but I have seen systems behave in totally unexpected manners responding to faults. When you examined what happened later you realized that the program was correct and safe. A person’s first intuition was wrong, often because some obscure detail was missed. Flow charts are the other extreme. They are single task. They make a nice outline or overview but tend turn to turn to spaghetti when dealing with real problems. LL is inherently unstructured. It depends on the programmer to impose some kind of structure that makes it more understand able. Only experience when trying to read your own programs a year or more later teaches this. No programming language is perfect. The best is to have several available and use each one for its strengths. Michael, I agree completely with your comments.regarding the variety of languages. LD is certainly different from flowchart, C, etc., in some very key ways. I once converted a ladder program to C, and in the process I learned a few interesting things: * each rung is basically an IF statement, with a sequence of ANDed conditions (XIC, XIO, etc.) and ORed (branches). The output instructions are the THEN part. * there's also ELSE logic -- resetting a TON on a false rung, for example, or clearing an EN bit * LD does not block lock other languages, waiting on something. (You can, however, write an infinite loop in LD just as easily as any other language. Now, back to the original thread: going BETWEEN languages. You are right about the different purposes of various general-purpose (C, C++, Java) and special-purpose (LD, FBD, etc.) languages. There are also any number of not-necessarily executable languages for modeling, analysis and design. The UML modeling language is actually a set of them -- one for static structures of objects, a couple for sequences of messages and/or interactions between objects, one for constructing sets of objects into release packages, one (suspiciously like SFC) for analyzing serial and parallel user activities, etc., etc. These are languages just as surely as LD, ST, FBD and SFC. I design in most of the UML languages and in dataflow / FBD diagrams, and do most of my code in ladder. And, as I think you said, flow charts don't really work well for me becase of the AND/OR decision nature of the logic I write (lending itself to LD) and because of the wait until blocking nature of some flowchart constructs -- which I have to implement by looking for the condition every scan and continuing the sequence when it is true. So I think LD and flowchart are different enough in structure and intent that it would be difficult to make a tool to go between then. FBD is different enough as well, but in another direction so to speak (dataflow, vs. combinational logic). ST is enough like C / pascal / basic that I suppose you could use a tool that would take C to flowchart (if there is such a thing). But even ST doesn't have the blocking constructs. Michael, thanks for saying briefly what it takes me WAY more text to say! Dale n"}
{"text": "### Human: Time Delay I need a simple time delay ladder logic instuction. When I enable the instruction I would like the output delayed by a preset value. I know I can program it with a regular time off delay followed by the Done bit. I would like this as a single box. Can this be accomplished with an add-on instruction? ### Assistant: Well, yes, you could build an AOI instruction that included just a timer and the /DN bit. It seems to me that would be an over-complication of the function. An ordinary timer is simple, clear, and effective. I also thought that a simple timer w/ DN was simple, clear, and effective but for the 3rd time maintenance people have become confused. If I put it on 2 rungs it is OK but if I put them inline on the same rung they seem to get confused. Yes, an AOI is overkill but if it makes it easier to read? There is plenty of memory and process speed. The pros and cons on such a simple question are hard to balance. Michael, If you make your AOI so it has no output parameters and no in/out parameters (use the built-in EnableOut for your done bit), it will be treated as an Input instruction and so be left-justified if you put it on a Ladder Diagram rung. Also, the Logic routine is NOT scanned (not just scanned FALSE) on a false rung, so be sure to put a reset of the timer in an EnableInFalse routine. You won't be able to do this if you need the Accumulator as an output paramter, though.... I do lots of logic with Input instructions after Output instructions, and it always throws people off. So I test the heck out of it, then lock it inside a secured AOI and nobody ever sees it. If the logic is appropriate for an AOI, that is (extremely well tested, extremely unlikely to require online changes on startup, utterly reusable, etc.). Give it a try, show it to your guys, and lets us know how they like it! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: PROSOFT Modbus module sitting on Redundant CLX Chassis hi as per above subject, anybody can confirm whether the Modbus module data retain/running whenever there is switchover from primary to secondary? FYI, there will be each separate Modbus module residing in each CLX primary and secondary chassis. Please kindly help to verify. ### Assistant: Before starting to discuss about Prosoft Module behavior during switchover, let me add some notes: 1. Which is your redundancy type ? Assuming is the one using 1757-SRM modules2. Primary and Secondary chassis WILL NOT SUPPORT Modbus module installation; following a list of what is allowed in those chassis. 1 - 1756-Ax Chassis 1 - 1756-Px Power Supply 1 to 2 - 1756-L55Mxx or 1 - 1756-L6x Processor ( V15.57) 1 - 1756-SRM Redundancy Module 1 to 3 - 1756-CNB(R)/D/E ControlNet Communication modules ( V15.57) or 1 to 7 - 1756-CNB(R)/D/E ControlNet Communication modules ( V15.60) * 1 to 2 - Optional 1756-ENBT or 1756-EWEB Ethernet Communications Modules. ( V15.57) * No I/O or other modules permitted in local chassis. A more detailed guide is in Aid 42750 Usually the Modbus modules are installed in the remote chassis. See also the Redundancy User Manual chapter 2 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Estimating Memory usage in a SLC-500 Is there any quick and dirty way to estimate memory usage for a SLC-500?Like if you know the number of I/O points and what types of comms you plan on using, you can multiply by a certain factor and it pops out a value in kBytes? Thanks,Kevin ### Assistant: Hi Kevin, in fact it is not so easy... this is due to the program in your SLC will use different amounts of memory depending on the instruction used, the number of files, the number of rungs etc.... I guess you've already seen the estimation method in the Reference Manual, page C-19.... - fuzzy logic I have seen the info in the reference manual. In the end I used a rule of thumb method based on our past history. Since a lot of our stuff is standard, it works well enough for my needs. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to use 0-10V votage to control the 1336PLUS with the module TB-2? How to use 0-10V votage to control the 1336PLUS with the module TB-2? How can i setup the parameters on the interface of 1336PLUS? ### Assistant: Following a screenshot with the wiring and the minimum parameter needed to use the 1336 PLUS (1336S) with 0-10 V reference. (just be aware if you're asking about 1336 PLUS II -1336F- configuration is different :smileysurprised: ) Reference is 1336 PLUS User Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Updation time from PLC to Panel view Hi,I am facing problem in data updation time from PLC to Panel veiw when they are connected on ethernet cable (CAT 5E). The updation time is from 4 to 5 seconds which is not agreable. so, please help me in this. ### Assistant: First thing to check is the Tag update Rate, under Display Settings of each display, default is 1 second.It acts as the tag refresh rate for all objects on the display; best practice is to set the Maximum Tag Update for the performance expected by the individual displays. - see also Aid 36811Please consider the Update rate of the tag PLUS the screen update time (that is roughly .5 to 1 second) Use Direct Tags instead of HMI tags to get fastest response (Objects using Direct Reference tags load on average 1 second faster than HMI tags ) – see also Aid 36270 Use On Top display After these (quite easy) settings, if your PVP still *goes* slowly, then is better to also analyze the hardware you're using (PLC type - Ethernet card / Switch and network devices / Network traffic / other devices connected .....) - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk to SLC550 Has anyone tried to configure a Panel View Plus to talk to an SLC 550 processor using panel view. I have tried the knowledge base and nothing. I have tried to fumble my way through but do not seem to have any success. Should I be looking at an OPC or ODBC instead? ### Assistant: SLC 500 can communicate with a Panelview Plus using differents network solutions (this primarly depends by the SLC processor type / comm channel available) and this communication should be configured in FactoryTalk View Studio using *embedded* RSLinx Enterprise. At this LINK you may find useful videos that explain how the communication is configured; navigate FactoryTalk View Machine Edition Quick Start Videos - Set Up a Panelview Plus for Communications You may also use OPC instead, but it is just an option, not a needs...:smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Well that site, like all the other Rockwell/Factory talk sites, assumes that the only thing you will use with an HMI is a Logix5000 platform. There is nothing that talks about using ethernet from an SLC505 series to a Panel View Plus Assuming your devices are correctly connected on the network, and you've configured their IP addresses, well, the procedure is quite similar to the one you may see in the videos.... just you've to use SLC instead of CLX, your plc will appear under the Ethernet/IP driver in RSLinx Enterprise setup. Then you may browse for Data Files and select your data to read/write in Panelview Plus...I mean, the procedure is always the same, also using SLC.... :smileysurprised: You may then test your application from FactoryTalk View Studio, if your PC is connected via Ethernet/IP to the SLC... and finally you may create your runtime (remember to configure the Target tab in RSLinx Enterprise) and download it to the PVP.... Follow My First Project videos, believe me, they will show you the right steps to start. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic So your saying, to configure my tags from the PLC to the PVP I have to do it all on line?I have been able to configure the ethernet channel using the Enterprise. Not a big deal. I have done that many times using Logix 5000. With Logix 5000 I can complete my configuration off line. Set up all the tags and animation that I want. Based on what I am seeing so far I gather that all that portion of the logic has to be done while online. RSLinx Enterprise only supports offline tag browsing of an RSLogix 5000 .ACD file. .RSS and .RSP files are not directly supported. :smileysad: Notice: When attempting to browse for the offline file, the only options to view are .ACD file and 'All Files'. There is a way to offline browse tags from a SLC or PLC5 system (not so straight way, but works :smileytongue: ), see Aid 32451 and Aid 29992 Hope this helps…:smileywink: - fuzzy logic That appears to be working. That is what I was after. It appears that what I will do when I go online is delete the OPC link and since the RSLinx Enterprise is pointing (through ethernet) to the same tags, I should be good to go. Thanks for your help. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-L65 Is there a V16 firmware package? I have a system that uses 3 contollers all running V16. One Is the master program A L64 that is deep into the yellow zone for memory. I would love to just Drop in the L65 with 32Mb of memory and not have to Flash up the other (2) L61 servo controllers, (2) DNB, (4) Sercos, and other cards as required. If that is the only option then so be it. Just sometime an ugrade unlocks other troubles. ### Assistant: I have to confirm you that 1756-L65 minimum (and actual) firmware revision is 17.02 :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Window resizes with a pop-up. I have a maxed window:Display Type = ReplaceNo Title BarNot sized to Main WindowSize specified in pixels.Resizing not allowed.Position: Use current position The pop-up window:Display Type = On TopTitle BarNot sized to Main Window, No System Menu, No Min ButtonSize specified in pixels.Resizing not allowed.Position: Use current position. When I click on a button on the maxed window to bring up the pop-up window, the maxed window grows in size causing scroll bars appear on the bottom and right side of window. I close the pop-up and it stays. Not until I go to another maxed window do the scroll bars go away. The client starts the program with the first window in maxed position. I haven't been able to figure out how to prevent the window from growing because of a pop-up. Any ideas? ### Assistant: The maxed window size specified is bigger than available pixels on the screen… you have two solutions: 1. Flag the “Size to main window at runtime” for maxed display – just be aware this will stretch your display, or scale it.2. Resize the window to an acceptable dimension so that it can stay all inside your screen, and the side bars will not appear when you open the On Top display. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I'll give it a shot. I'll let you know. Thanks. Hi, any news ? :smileywink: Did you test it ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Yea. Sorry. It's really crazy here. Been programming a ga-gillion gates. Well it feels like a ga-gillion. Anyway, I did test the suggestion. I got my video card to work properly and the resolution is way higher on this computer now then it was before so now when I click on a pop-up, the window shrinks...down to the pixel size it was developed in. So yes. Next project will be developed based on the resolution of the screens. Not just some random size picked out of the sky. Oh how I wish I was at the start of the screen development on this! I'm much wiser now...I hope! :smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1746-IV16 MODULE Can someone explain to me how a Source module works. If the circuit is closed is there 0 or 24vdc on the input? If you take the wire off of the input should there be 24vdc on the module? I am confused about the sinking and sourcing. ### Assistant: Here a short explanation of sink and source.... OUTPUTS Most digital outputs are “Open Collector” type. That is, they comprise a single transistor with its collector brought out to a terminal.There are two types : PNP transistor output = “Sourcing Output” = “Active High” When the transistor switch is on, (a) is connected to 24 v., HIGH. Current flows through the load, and the output is ACTIVE, hence ACTIVE HIGH. The output is referred to as SOURCING as (a) is a Source of current, current flowing out of (a) into the load. NPN transistor output = “Sinking Output” = “Active Low” When the transistor switch is on, (a) is connected to common, LOW. Current flows through the load, and the output is ACTIVE, hence ACTIVE LOW. The output is referred to as SINKING as (a) absorbs or sinks current from the load. INPUTS Most digital inputs are optically isolated but have two configurations matching the outputs described above “PNP” = “Sinking Input” = “Active High” “NPN” = “Sourcing Input” = “Active Low” Early PLC’s were normally NPN or “Active Low” but safety concerns have caused a shift towards PNP or “Active High”. This because a short to ground in an “Active Low” circuit turns the load ON while in an “Active High” system a short to ground shorts the supply thus clearing an overload device so is “fail safe”. So, if the circuit is closed there is 0 vdc on the input. See the attached Wiring Diagram.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: read the general Information from the Add On into the PLC Hi,we have RS Logix 5000 V16.00 and some Add On Instructions. Now we want to display the general information from the Add On (like Revision, Edited ....) at the Panel. Is there a change to read this Information into the PLC with the GSV or eq and move to a String Tag? ### Assistant: Hi, I'm quite sure there isn't a way to retrieve these informations from an AOI... neither using GSV, nor using CIP message.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-IE8 configuration issue when power is lost I am having a very strange problem with a 1794-IE8 module. It located on Logical Rack ### Assistant: Modify your program as follows: BTW Control Block in N100:0BTW Data File N101:0BTW Buffer File M0:1.400 BTR Control block in N102:0BTR Data File in N103:0BTR Buffer M1.1.500 ...as per Instruction Manual indications: Each instruction uses both the M0 and M1 file for that one hundred word buffer (1 through 32). For example, to use the first available buffer (1) for a BTR, enter M1:e.100 into the “Buffer file” field. However, M0:e.100 is also used by this BTR. So, the next BT instruction must use another M-file buffer (2 through 32). Hope this helps… :smileywink: - fuzzy logic This was exactly what I was missing. I must have read that part of the manual 100 times. Apparently I didn't digest it. Thanks very, very much! You made my day. Steve n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview PV1200 - 2711-KC1X Series F I need to make a couple of small changes, and much to my chagrin, PB32 doesn't do a migration from PBW files? Is there other, older software I can use, or am I stuck rebuilding this from scratch? Thanks, and I did try a search, no luck... ### Assistant: You have to use Panelbuilder 1200 (2711-ND1W) to open your file... Technote 21356 contains that software... :smileysurprised: Other way is to open it using Panelbuilder 1400e (2711E-ND1) ...after this conversion you may also open the file using FactoryTalk View ME.... (Aid 45677) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic It did help, ALOT. Thanks....I don't have a serial number to install it unfortunately. Is there a way around that? Hi, see in the upper right corner of the Forum Home page, I've sent you a Private Message.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSEMULATE5000 Error Hi,I have installed RSEMULATE ver 15 and RSLOGIX 5000 ver 15.Whenever, I am download any PLC code into the EMULATOR and put it in REMOTE RUN mode, the CPU on the EMULATOR shows a Big RED CROSS and goes in to a condition where the RSLOGIX 5000 is not able to communicate with the RSEMULATE CPU. Does anybody know solution to this issue.-Arun ### Assistant: This problem could be related to some settings in Data Execution Prevention (DEP), for Win XP sp2 or Server 2003... Take a look to Aid 35236 to see if helps... - fuzzy logic Hey Buddy,Thanks for the solution. It came a right time. Appreciate your response.-Arun n"}
{"text": "### Human: Digital Input Response Times for 1790D and 1791D CompactBlock Inputs Can anyone point out where I can find the digital input response times for 1790Dand 1791D CompactBlock I/O? I looked in the Technical Data sheets, the installation instructions and the selectionguides and none of them offer up this information. ### Assistant: Hey parallaxview, you may find out the informations you need at this LINK About the 1791D, the Input Delay is configurable through RSNetworx...see the attached screenshot... I like KUDOS ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Hi, did you find the above informations helpful ? :smileyindifferent: I've not seen a reply, Kudos, Solution.... :smileysurprised: Thanks in advance for your feedback... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1500 and dat panel use Sorry may appear a tad thick, I'm fairly new to this subject, have written a few progs for some 1500 units we have bought, in RS Logix and they work fine but I wish to vary the preset values in the timers and also reset or monitor counters without attending with a PC. I do not appear to be able to do this from the DAT panel as it only allows access to integer and Bit files? Am I missing a methodolgy to use these files in the construction of timers or counters? Any help better than none, many Thanks ### Assistant: Hi Huddy, I have to confirm that the Micrologix 1500 DAT module can access only integer and bit files. :smileysad: So, in order to access other kind of data, i.e the Preset of a Timer, you have to write some ladder code to move a value from an Integer files accessible through the DAT and set as destination the Preset of the Timer. In the attached screenshot, for example, the N11:0 is the first word of the 11 file chosen for the DAT. The number entered using the DAT at 00 will be put into N11:0 and MOVed to the timer T4:0's preset. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Display text for a combination of set bits? I have a variable that has a bit set for each of several states, and each state can be on at the same time. I want to display text for the states that are on, such as state1, state5, state10. Since FactoryTalk expressions do not seem to support variables, I don't see a convenient way to do this. (I wanted to check each bit in turn, appending text to the result if the bit was set.) What would you recommend? Thanks, Frank ### Assistant: When you say variable that has bits set, what kind of variable is it? (where is it coming from?) If it's a DINT from ControlLogix, you can look at each individual bit by referencing it Variable.0, Variable.1, etc. If you are looking to construct a string of text based on bits -- you didn't say if you are using View SE or View ME -- in View SE, you could assemble your string using VBA and display as Text. If it were me, I'd probably provide a diagnostics display that shows all possible states and just lights up the active states when their bits are set. Operators can that states without having to read them. It seems more user-friendly than a string of text, but that's without knowing your application. Yes, it is a DINT from a CompactLogix. And I am using View ME. If I still need to construct the string, what do you recommend? (I might be able to do this with expressions, but they are limited to 999 characters.) Regards, Frank Here's how I'd probably do it. I've only used SE but I expect it this would work in ME as well. First, create a numeric display and tie it to your DINT. Open the property pannel and set the ExposeToVBA property to VBA Control. Create a text object and set it to VBA Control as well. Put the following code in the Change event of the numeric display. (Make sure to change any references to NumericDisplay1 and Text1 below to whatever your objects are actually named.) Private Sub NumericDisplay1_Change() Dim s As String Dim n As Integer s =  For n = 0 To 31 If (NumericDisplay1.Value And (2 ^ n)) > 0 Then If Len(s) > 0 Then s = s & ,  s = s & State & n End If Next Text1.Caption = s End SubThe And in the first IF statement works as a bitwise so we can check if each bit is on. The numeric display can be set invisible. Hey Tavmaster-T, just a note.... unfortunately View ME cannot expose objects to VBA, it has NOT vba at all :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, thanks for the correction. FrankS, sorry, my VBA solution won't work. I guess the best thing to do would be an expression with a series of Switch statements or something like that. If that expression is too large to fit in the 999 chars then you should be able to split it into two separate text objects. In SE you can reference the value of one object in the expression of another object. If that works in ME then you can concatenate the values from the two into one for display and make the original two invisible. n"}
{"text": "### Human: String Display From Integer File I have ASCII data stored in a SLC 5/05 Integer file. I want to display it on a Panelview +1200. I do not have enough memory in the SLC to copy the data to a string file for display. Is there any other way to make the PV display the data as a string? ### Assistant: I guess you're asking about Panelview Plus 1250... :smileysurprised:Unfortunately, with View ME, N files cannot be used for String display and String input... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 700 Drive fault ### Assistant: Dave, I think a little bit of information is missing. ;) JHutch I agree to you completely but would like to tell you,a lot of information is missing Cheers:smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700S - Fault 41 RideThru Timeout I have a 2Hp PF700S powered off of an NRU/RGU (so it is not rectifying AC to DC, it is supplied off of a DC bus). The motor is running about 127RPM, and is overhauled slightly so it runs ~ -12%FLT. There is some variability in the overhauling load. I have recently started seeing a fault 41, RideThru Timeout. This fault indicates that the drive has been in a bus loss ridethrough for more than 2 sec. Since I don't have AC supply to the drive and none of the other drives on the NRU/RGU are having faults, I assume that this is not truly the cause. Could I experience this fault if the drive runs at zero torque for some period of time? The motor does not have an encoder, and Par 485 = 0 (FOC). ### Assistant: Which firmware revision do You have on Your drive ? n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-RM, C2N, E2NT module ATEX or Ex Certificates Hi, as per subject above, I couldn't find any ATEX/Ex certificates of the modules mentioned. I do understand all these modules are still new, any information about their dedicated certification? ### Assistant: Hi, please help to confirm this for me, as this is important for our ongoing project which might opt for these modules. Much appreciate... Sorry, I don't know enough about these modules to help. I recommend trying the Live Chat or Ask a Question links in the Knowledge Base. One of the support engineers in that product area ought to be able to track down what you need. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk HMI Global Distortion Hello All, I am running Factory Talk View SE. 5.00.00 CPR 9 with the Service platform upgrade to 2.10 CPR 9 and Alarms and Events Server 2.10.00 CPR 9. Without making any changes to global graphics i am getting distortion. Images will stretch themselves all the way across the screen or will shrink themselves down to maybe 4-5 pixels. Has anyone had this problem? it seems to only be in the horizontal direction. My fix so far has been delete and replace but this isn't going to work forever. ### Assistant: Most of the anomolies like this can be solved by upgrading your graphics driver or installing the driver for your monitor. Even if it's a new pc, strange things happen but usually if it's a graphics problem like this, look to the hardware and drivers. Are these bit maps or standard SE objects? And are your screens configured to size to main window at runtime, or have Scale selected in the Display settings? If so, uncheck size to main window and select Pan instead of Scale. To answer your question, I haven't seen this. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 4(x) Series Remote HIM I'm trying to pick a drive and I want a remote HIM, a process controller sending a 0-10VDC speed reference and an AUTO-MANUAL selctor switch.(Too bad there's no auto-tuning on the PF4 series drives or I would use the internal PID - but that's another story...)The remote HIM need to be the NEMA 4X 22-HIM-C2S. With the selector switch in AUTO, the drive should respond to the speed reference from the process controller.WIth the selector switch In MANUAL the operator uses the remote HIM to set the speed.The remote HIM is always the start and stop source. What powerflex series drive, if any, allows me to do this?Is the remote HIM equivalent to the integral HIM if the drive is in LOCAL mode? MANUAL mode?Or is the remote HIM considered COMMUNICATIONS when setting up the drives digital input functions? Please don't tell me I need to use a PF7x series. My customer isn't getting any TARP funds.Thanks ### Assistant: In the user manual, page 3-14, you can set up the digital input to be local control for the HIM; parameter A051 set to 5. For AUTO on digital input #2, set parameter A052 to 13 for 0-10V control. Hope this points you in the right direction. <snip> In the user manual, page 3-14, you can set up the digital input to be local control for the HIM;..... Original Post: Is the remote HIM equivalent to the integral HIM if the drive is in LOCAL mode? I've read the manual, searched this forum and the TSKB - otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question.I should have known better... Well first of all we're all here just trying to help based on our own understanding and personal experiances. Sorry the forum didn't live up to your expectations. All the documentation I have and experience allows for the remote HIM to be a replacement for the integral HIM. The HIM itself has it's own parameters and can be set up as a Master or Slave depending on other comms peripherals you may have. Although the remote HIM may have direct speed control, when placed in local it defaults to the integral HIM since you can have both. When we have questions needing answers not found anywhere else, this is when our vendor comes through. We go over, set it up on a test bench and find out. Not really to start troubles with somebody, just let me add a comment.... :smileywink: First phrase that we should write after receiving a reply to our request, should be something like Thank you for your answer.... I'm agree with fordtt, all the folks here are spending some of their time to try to help others, and this needs to be recognized... then, if the answer is different than expected, not in line with our request, not clear enough, well, we may better specify it and post again. This is a Forum, it may help, sure, but it shouldn't be confused with a Technical Support from the vendor; we have also to consider it is worlwide available, so sometimes the language could be misunderstood and replies not so clear (not really this case, but it may happen) Just my two cents, keep asking questions, we all will keep answering as best as we can ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Convert Panelbuilder32 Can i convert Panelbuilder32 (*.pba) to 1400E (*.pvc)? ### Assistant: Unfortunately NO ! :smileysad: The two platforms have many differences that doesn't allow for conversions. - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy...... Fuzzy, One more question. We can convert Panelbuilder to RSView,isn't?But how about the communication? How to convert RS232 to Ethernet , becausethe we use PLC 5. Thanks New thread started with new question.... :smileytongue: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=865#M865 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS232 to Ethernet Fuzzy, One more question. We can convert Panelbuilder to RSView,isn't?But how about the communication? How to convert RS232 to Ethernet , becausethe we use PLC 5. Thanks ### Assistant: Hi, if you mean RSView32, answer is NO ! If you're talking about FactoryTalk View Studio for ME, it is possible. If I've correctly understood, actually your Panelview is connected to a PLC-5 via RS-232; now, assuming you have an Ethernet port on your PLC-5, it is easy to connect to it, setting the path in RSLinx Enterprise. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic fuzzy, we not have stock for PV 1400, but we have PV Plus 1200. Any converterfrom RS232 to Ethernet? Thanks I guess you mean you don't have Ethernet on PLC-5, so you want a converter to RS-232... You may use a 1761-NET-ENI.Panelview Plus Ethernet port to this device, and from it to a PLC-5 RS-232 port - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy, any setting configuration for convert RS232 to Ethernet?I'll find that interface. Hi, I suggest to take a look to the User Manual for ENI, in order to configure it, it is quite easy... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Okay bro. Thanks a lot to help me. n"}
{"text": "### Human: problem with activation When I tried to activate Rslinx & RSLogicx , by mistake I put a wrong Hard Disk ID , accordingly I received two activation code from the designatedwebsite but as the id is non existant I cannot activate both the products , rehosting also is not working as because the id given by me is nonexistant in any computer,suggest me how to get new activation code , If AB automation has to be called , give their tel. number in India ### Assistant: Yes, I suggest to call in Technical Support to solve your problem... Following the contacts: Country Website http://www.rockwellautomation.com/in/ Local Sales Office C-11, Site-4, Industrial Area Sahibabad -201 010 Dist. Ghaziabad Uttar Pradesh India Tel: (91) 120 289 5245 to 5252 Fax: (91) 120 289 5226 Service Dispatch Tel: (North) (91) 120 4671237 Tel: (West) (91) 22 66914956 Tel: (South) (91) 80 22206530 Tel: (East) (91) 33 23572723 Parts Repair/Exchange Tel: (91) 11 2214 5608 Ext 214 Local Tech Support Tel: (91) 1800 3000 7635 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to send commandos to Ultra 3000 by RSlogix500 RS232 HelloI have an Ultra3000i and a Micrologix1200, and I want to send commands from the PLC to the Ultra 3000 by Serial com.Could the MSG command works? How can I configure this instruction?example: I want to send the next command to the Ultra to enable de drive: 3A0007010DThanks and regards ### Assistant: You may send commands to Ultra 3000 using Host Commands.RS-232 port should be configured to use ASCII. The host language is not so easy to use from inside a PLC... anyway there are some docs and an example for SLC controller, it should work also with Micrologix, just it should be *converted* and checked for some conversion errors...:smileysad: Aid 22657 contains all this stuff.Start taking a look to Host Command Reference Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic HelloI tried to open de Aid, but it is not available. :smileysad: This happens because probably you don't have a valid Tech Connect contract.... if you want, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your E-Mail address, I will send you back some docs... - fuzzy logic I realize you are probably trying to keep the cost of the machine to an absolute minimum by using a MicroLogix 1200 and the serial HOST protocol but I want to post some advice. I've had customers do this, and every one of them spent far more money on the time it took to write the host protocol logic than they would have spent on hardware to build the system with the appropriate tools. The host protocol is great for UltraWare, and good for the operator interfaces from Quartech, but is difficult to use from the serial port of a MicroLogix. I once programmed in nine hours with a MicroLogix 1500 and DeviceNet scanner what had taken my customer over three months to do with Host Protocol. Since you mentioned wanting to be able to Enable the drive over the serial port, you're probably wanting to do everything with the drive over the serial port. It's easier, faster, and more reliable to use a MicroLogix 1500 with 1769-SDN and the DeviceNet version of the Ultra 3000i. Hello KenThanks a lot for the information.Actually, I took this project already started, but i am gonna take this into account.Regards!:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Component- Adobe warnings Has anyone experienced adobe alarms on the panelview component units? Cause? ### Assistant: Hmmm.... not yet ! :smileytongue: It would be useful to have a more detailed description of the error / warning, your Panelview and PLC model - version etc... to better understand the issue... - fuzzy logic The problem ended up being the initial graphic. Once it was removed the problem went away. I'm not sure if the resolution was too high or what the exact problem was but it went away when the graphic was removed. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Task Manager exports only report headers to csv Hi, I use RsBizware 7.00 with 'production server' for reporting. When I create a scheduled task in the production client than a good preview is visible of the report. But when te task runs and creates the .csv file, only the headers of this query/report are in it, no data! I have tried with printer output and it's the same (the headers look like buttons), task manager gives no error and the task history says 'request completed'... So the reports are useless, what to do to help this? greetings, Joris ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: IP address in General tab does not match actual module configuration This is a general question for you gurus out there. Logix platform, Ethernet modules in general.What problems may arise if the actual module IP address is different than what is set in the IO Config, module properties, General tab? I have seen this many times, as the IO config typically gets set during development, and then the actual IP settings get changed at deployment. The modules seem to work just fine, even through a power cycle, so the General Tab settings are apparently not downloaded to the module from the processor.My suspicion is that it only means something when doing messaging or something. How close am I? Thanks! ### Assistant: You are right on the money. The IP entered in the general tab is used to define the path to a remote ethernet module. It only needs to be entered for ethernet modules located in a remote chassis. This is used for messaging, produced/consumed, remote ethernet I/O, etc. The IP address in the General tab of the scanner module is only used by RSLogix 5000 to disallow duplicate IP addresses in the configuration. It is not checked against the actual module address nor is it downloaded to the module when the program is loaded into the Controller. The IP addresses of the adapter modules must match in the RSLogix 5000 configuration and in real life because those are actually used to establish I/O connections to the remote devices. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView activations and ghosting I have five PC's running the same RSView32 application, each with FactoryTalk activation. I would like to ghost one of them to use for emergency restoration in case of hard drive failure on any of the five. The activations are node-locked using the ethernet card. If I restore from the ghost image to a new drive, will RSView run normally? I read a presentation that said that activation should be removed before ghosting, but I would like to have the simplest procedure possible for emergency restoration. ### Assistant: Since the *.LIC files were generated using the NIC card, you can leave them in place on the Ghost image and RSView32 will run correctly when the Ghost image is restored on that machine. You'll need to create a unique Ghost image for each PC and only restore it to that PC. As an alternative, you could copy the *.LIC files for all of the computers onto one, then create a Ghost file that could be loaded onto any of the PCs as long as they still had one of the NIC cards used to generate one of the *.LIC files. Thanks for the info. If I follow your alternative with all *.LIC files in the ghost image, then restore from the ghost, would I need to delete the extraneous *.LIC files after restoring? Or will FactoryTalk examine all of them and only use the *.LIC that corresponds to the NIC in that PC? I'm fairly sure that FT Activation will ignore *.LIC files that do not correspond to hardware IDs that are present on that computer. I've had *.LIC files from other computers in my Activations folder and they did not seem to interfere with my activations. I'd call RA Tech Support to be certain, or just do a simple test by copying *.LIC files from the other computers onto one of them. Keep a paper list of MAC IDs, but it can't hurt to move the *.LIC files around. They're just text. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 1250 Hello, Do you know how to go to Configuration Setting page for Panelview Plus 1250 (secret button)...... Thanks ### Assistant: In order to get the Configuration screen, you could do the following : restarting your PVP, you will see a white box in the left down corner of the screen; press it if you have a touch terminal (or press F1 if you have a keybord PVP) until you'll get the Configuration screen. This is only valid from PVP firmware version 4.00.12 and above. Otherwise you may use the utility attached and explained in the following technote (it is a Tech Connect contract users reserved doc): Aid 26037 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy, i can't see white box on left corner. FYI, i using PV Plus 1250 (Touch Screen) Cat No. : 2711P-RP and 2711P-RDT12C for panel. Hi, the box appears in the left bottom corner, few seconds after powerup... it is clearly visible... anyway, as I've indicated in previous post, the white box appears only starting from firmware 4.00.12...maybe your PVP has an older firmware revision inside... In that case, use the other solution I've indicated... if you have troubles *reaching* the technote, send me a Private Message here in the forum with your e.mail address, I will send you back some infos. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 40P DSI can i use the DSI port on a power flex 40p for IO?? looking to use ethernet comms for controlling the drive but wondered if i could get point i/o or something to hang off the DSI port also ### Assistant: No, you can't do that... DSI port is only for remote HIM, RS-485 connection to other drives or PLC control (DSI / Modbus RTU), programming thru adapter and PC with Drive Explorer / Executive. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC-3 bypass mode The SMC-3 is supposed to run in bypass mode once the motor is up to speed and the current falls to 105% of the maximum frame amp rating. I am trying to test a used SMC-3 before installing in a machine. When I use a smaller motor (26 amp) on a 108 amp SMC-3 soft start, the bypass contactors pull in immediately and bring the motor up to speed even with the ramp time set to 10 seconds. With a small load on the motor it will continue to run in bypass mode. With no load on the motor, it will get up to speed and then the bypass contactors will drop out for a second and then pull back in. I'm wondering if the SMC-3 has a problem or is it sensing a small load at start up and using the bypass contactors rather than the SCRs. I thought it would ramp the motor up according to the time setting regardless of the motor HP.Thanks in advance,Ashby ### Assistant: Hi, what happens to you should be considered a normal behavior. :smileyhappy: Your tests fall into two limit conditions for SMC-3... first test (running a 26 A motor using a 108 A SMC-3) will give this result because the current sensed by the Softstarter is low enough to make it *thinking* the motor is already up-to-speed, so it uses the bypass... if you try to use a *bigger* motor, you will see the Softstarter following the configured ramp time. Second test (no load) is explained in Aid 40356 , and it is related to the fact the SMC-3 needs a motor connected to fall in a particular current range, indicated in the Selection Guide and for your Softstarter this range is 27-108 A (in effect the second behavior could also happen in the first test, you have a 26 A motor...evidently it is right enough to let the SMC-3 run quite normally.... :smileysurprised: ) So, it is important for this softstarter to work correctly, the use of a motor rated with appropriate FLA related to SMC-3 size, otherwise it could be generate faults or incorrect operations. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: E2h1 FRMW ERR Rset MOD We have an L55/A redundant PLC at firmware revision 13.70, the 1757-SRM is at firmware revision 3.37. Last week we got two times fault alarm E2h1 FRMW ERR Rset MOD on the SRM module, and it can be clear when the power is recycled. Can any body tell me what the problem is and what further action should we take? Thanks,Eric ### Assistant: As you may have guessed, it is a Firmware Error in the -SRM module.It is indicated in the Installation Manual, and the suggested action there is to re-flash the module firmware. My suggestion here is to call in Tech Support for your region, after collecting informations from your configuration of the redundancy system, eventual recent modifications to the program, firmware level for all modules etc. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DATA LOGGING HOW STRING LOGGING CAN BE DONE IN RSVIEW32 ### Assistant: Hi, Aid 39707 could help to realize a Data Log for RSView32. Also, take a look to the User Guide Chapter 7 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DOWN LOADING IS IT POSSIBLE TO DOWN LOAD A RSLOGIX 500 PROGRAM FROM REMOTE AREA WITHOUT THE CABLES ### Assistant: You may consider the use of a Modem (for example the RADKIT or RADES from Rockwell Automation) that could be connected over the controller serial port or, when available, to the Ethernet port of the processor. There are also Remote Connectivity solutions via GSM / GPRS / Internet etc., for example those offered by Ewon. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: About master disk & FTA license ? Which license supports RSView32 Version 7.40? master disk or FTA or Both ? dose CPR9 support Both license? Dose CPR9/SR1 only support FTA license? ### Assistant: RSView32 v7.40 (CPR9) supports new FactoryTalk Activation AND also Master Disk Activation. The same for v7.50 (CPR9 sr1). *Old* EvRSI activation will be replaced by FactoryTalk Activation in a future release; anyway, the above versions no longer ship with a physical master disk for activating software. Release Notes for these versions report all these informations. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView 32 datalog storage and retrieval Hi all, We use to trend data to a 500gb external hard drive. The data needs to be kept for +- 2 years.This leaves the 500gb hard drive being too small. We have since purchased a 4 Tb nas raid external drive. We have started to trend on the hard drive. Our problem is that once we copy the old datalog files onto the new hard drive can not open them on trend. The error we get is unable to open datalog as it is currently open by another application Thanks Anthony ### Assistant: Anthony, here are a couple of thoughts on this:Only 1 program is going to be able to access those files at the same time. If the old RSView32 is accessing them (or any other program, for that matter), you will get that message.Just copying .DBF files to another computer does not mean that the datalogging system will know about them. Datalog models store a list of files that belong to them in .DLG and .DNS files. If you delete these files (found in the directory containing the .DBF files), the datalog model will be forced to re-create them and will automatically make any .DBF file in the logging directory a part of the model.You might check the amount of data in the.DBF files, make sure it falls within the limits defined in tech note 33773.Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Issue with Powerflex 4 startup I've recently obtained two Powerflex 4 drives. I have connected each to identical wood lathes.The first was a 22AV4P5N104 and it works properly from either the keypad or remote control I've added. I also have a 22AA4P5N104 connected to the second lathe. The issue I have is this second drive will erratically operate from either keypad or the remote control. At startup, the output display will rise from 0 to about 10Hz and flicker. The motor will not start on its own. If you spin motor, the output will rise to the level you've set on Pot but motor operation is still rough and erratic. No faults come up on display. I've changed just about every parameter to no avail. If I change boost from default, it will give overcurrent fault after few seconds. I've reset P041 with no change in problem. I have even swapped drives/motor to insure it isn't motor problem and issue still remained. Main question is this drive toast? Thanks! ### Assistant: It seems you've already done enough tests to understand it is faulty...I think you'll need to either change or repair that drive...:smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Something Wrong about RSEMU5 These Days,i prepare to study AB PLC-5,and when i use the RSEMU5, I have got through the problem,when i start the RSEMU5,the system remind the errorcan't load the the RSEMU5X.dll form the RSlinx directory, after that i check that the RSEMU5.dll be in the directory, so i don't how to do, so i need help ### Assistant: Try to see if the patch in Aid 37836 could help... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: A large dumb drive Hi.Is there anyone else here who quite often needs a large drive (75kw - 315kw) that does not need a great lot of smarts. We do a lot of water pumping jobs so we really don't need all the bells and whistles. We just need rudimentary speed control, EMC filtering (built in) with an ethernet port and a 232 port that can talk modbus. The absence of all the smarts should keep the cost down which in this line of work is the most important thing.I thought the 400 range was going to fill this need but they do not even go up to 75kw. The filter is not built in and the voltage range is 240 and 480V. There are no 400V versions.Hoping this will get someone at RA thinking about larger, simpler drives.Regards Alan Case ### Assistant: The Powerflex400 does go up to 260kw @ 380-480vac, has modbus built-in and is 30% cheaper than PF700H. If the VSD is over 40% of the transformer load at the PCC then an EMI filter is not the solution. You will need a passive harmonic filter ( add another $10k aust ), and the speed range would need to be above 60% or the capacitors will screw up the powerfactor. Unfortunatly,there are alot of stories about vsd's saving you money, but all the examples used do not take in account the Harmonics generated and the $$$$'s needed to solve this. I don't know how I missed the sizing of the 400. I think I must of seen the 240V KW rating. You have intrigued me with the info about the passive harmonic filter. I notice that you work for NHP. Can you drop me an email at alan@tec-solutions.com.au Regards Alan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Converting an RSLogix 5000 v16 program back to a v13 program. Does anyone know if there is a way to roll back a program to an older verison of RSLogix. I have tried L5K export and import and it fails. I am just looking for a way to roll it back to avoid having to compare and change everything in my older v13 program to make it equivalent to the current v16 program. Hand keying many changes will take some time. Just looking for a faster way. ### Assistant: Hi, RSLogix 5000 projects can be easily converted forward to a newer version, however there is no direct method to convert backwards. This is because new features, functionality, communication and I/O modules, plus some new controller types could render the project incomplete. Aid 33852 contains some instructions and procedures to try to convert it back... anyway there is no guarantee the project will successfully revert. Please not the above technote is a TechConnect active users reserved docs... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MOD not returning correct result... I'm trying to show on the screen how many minutes and seconds are left before break is over. This is the equation I'm using in FactoryTalk NumericDisplay to show the number of seconds left in that minute: If (({[WPA_PLC_G_1_1]BREAK_TIME_TIMER.PRE} - {[WPA_PLC_G_1_1]BREAK_TIME_TIMER.ACC}) / 60000) > 0 Then (({[WPA_PLC_G_1_1]BREAK_TIME_TIMER.PRE} - {[WPA_PLC_G_1_1]BREAK_TIME_TIMER.ACC}) / 1000) % 60 else 0 (Of course BREAK_TIME_TIMER is of type TIMER.) From what I know of math, that should return the number of seconds left in that minute. I get the minutes to show up (by doing a the equation between the If and Then above with a -1 after it) but when I use this, the display shows a white framed box (I have this sitting on top of a maroon colored box) indicating to me that it can't figure out the equation. Am I out to lunch or is this a simple fix that I'll cry when I see it? I've also tried doing a % 60000 instead of dividing by 1000 then % 60. It shows ** (that's two asterics not a swear word!) instead. Unfortunately I can only test this at break time so I'll have to wait to test. *sigh* ### Assistant: Hi, there is a technote about Modulus calculation with View ME (Aid 34985) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the post. That was what I needed. All is well now. n"}
{"text": "### Human: E46 erro in K6K Somebody knows what is the E46 error in Kinetix?Thank you ### Assistant: Hi No such error exists. The E46 is reserved for expansion to the U3K drive. Check the error number again and go to: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/qr/motion-qr004_-en-p.pdf to get the Quick Error Overview Card. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerful 4 E-STOP I am building a small panel with two(2) powerflex 4 VFD drives.I need to hard wire an e-stop into the drives. How do I do this?I have been told that contactors on the motors are not good and that I can't e-stop electronics. Does that mean I can't e-stop the VFD? The application is small. It runs two small horizontal conveyors. There is no major risk of stopping the motors at any point in time. My thought is to put a N/C contact in series with terminal 1 (stop). This will open the stop circuit and stop the motors. The drives will remain ON. Once the e-stop is reset, the open contact will close and the drive will wait for the start signal again from the main machine. Is this acceptable? Or will this method risk damaging the drives or motors? thank you ### Assistant: The Rockwell Knowledge base ID 39169 can assist. This attachment discusses the advantages and disadvantages of input contactors, output contactors and the DriveGuard Safe-Off relay http://www.rockwellautomation.com/knowledgebase/ Output contactors work very well but you also need to STOP the drive to keep it from faulting on load loss (or disable the load loss alarm). The safe-off option is really nothing more than a relay on a circuit board that either enables or disables the gating function of the drive, thus stopping it. In a simple application such as what you have here, an output contactor would work fine as long as an aux. contact enables the drive when the ESTOPs are OK. The tech note David9 refers to has great information in it, especially on the input contactor. The most important part of understanding the input contactor scenario is that the drive will run a few seconds....I've personally seen a PowerFlex70EC drive run for 12 seconds before totally discharging. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PIDE I am working with a RSLogix5000 program that uses a PIDE instruction in a routine, the rest of the program is all ladder. All the RS literature says the PIDE instruction should be put in a routine in a timed task. Can this alternatively be done using a timer (1 second) and called using a JSR from the main continuous task, if the routine is in that task. And will the periodic variable of the PIDE instruction take on the 1 second timing. ### Assistant: Sorry for a delayed response but I just saw your posting. The PIDE instruction has to reside in function block logic and the execution cycle is selectable. To manually control the execution of the instruction, set it to Oversample and then when time to execute it, simple set the EnableIn on the PIDE block at the rate of OversampleDT seconds. Now, here's one reason to just put it in it's own periodic task....processor scan. By putting all of your routines in a periodic task(s) you can now set the priority of the task. A continuous task receives the LOWEST priority and is NOT changeable, which means other functions, even processor overhead for communications, can take a higher priority than your continuous task. You do have some control based on the Overhead Timeslice but not near what you have with a periodic task. The system overhead only interrupts the continuous task. The basic answer to your question is yes it can be done this way but isn't the most efficient. If you tie the EnableIn connector to a value of 1 and then control the actual scan time of the function block routine through the use of a JSR, then for all practical purposes you have created a 1 second, periodic scan. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Issue installing Logix 5000 v16.03 I get the following error during the installation.. I had v16.00 and v17.... I didn't need v17 anymore so I un-installed it and I un-installed v16.00. before re-installing v16.03. If I clicked ignore the install continued but I got this message with 6-7 more dll files. anyone have any ideas? thanks Yvon ### Assistant: Try to see if Aid 60188 could help... it is about v17 installation, but really seems the same problem.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you, I clicked ignore until it completed and the app seems fine. but I will do the DLL check. Yvon n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rslogix5000 V17 - Additional Axis Servo faults Axis00.Guard..... What do they mean? In Rslogix5000 V17 there are a whole bunch of additional servo axis faults added. Nobody within Rockwell Europe knows what they mean (I asked esupport and they still owe me an answer).I need to explain to my client what they mean but have no clue where to begin.I think it has something to do with Guardlogix Safety PLC but I'm not sure. Is there any additional info available (manual, link,...) RegardsFV ### Assistant: These new attributes of the Axis structure are related to a new version of Kinetix Drives... here what I've found in the V17 release notes.... Kinetix6000 Advanced Safety Drive (S1) Support Version 17 of RSLogix 5000 software provides support for the Kinetix6000 SERCOS S1 Advanced Safety based family of drives. The safety status can be directly accessed by the user’s application via two new SERCOS Axis attributes (GuardStatus and GuardFaults) in the Axis_Servo_Drive data type. The configuration of the S1 Drive’s safety parameters is done via an Ethernet WEB based interface and downloaded to the Kinetix6000 drive via this Ethernet connection. I'm sure deekster will add some interesting notes on that.... :smileytongue::smileywink: - fuzzy logic The above information is all I know about this topic. And that's all I'm going to say about that. to have at least some idea, take a look at the mrs57 manual, page 192.or look into the PowerFlex 750-Series User Manual, parameter 67/68 (page 3-139) I think this same relay will be build into the next generation k6k and the software in RSLogix5k is already prepared.... n"}
{"text": "### Human: MACRO WHAT IS THE MEANING OF INVOKE IN MACRO ### Assistant: Here, taken from the User Guide: Use this command with ActiveX® objects. Use the command to: - call an object’s method - assign the value returned by a method to a tag - set an object’s property to a tag value or a constant - set a tag to the value of an object’s property Aid 23292 contains an example of its use inside a project. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic You can't get a more thorough answer than what Fuzzy already gave you. The short synopsis is that Invoke allows you to access Properties, Methods or Events of ActiveX controls. If you are using RSView32, that's the ONLY way you can do it (other than binding tags to any exposed properties). In SE, since ActiveX controls can be directly exposed, there is no need to use Invoke. It is there for compatibility with RSView32 projects that have been converted to SE. Example: You want to add items to a ListBox ActiveX control. You would use Invoke to populate the list as shown below:Invoke ME.ListBox1.AddItem(Item1)Invoke ME.ListBox2.AddItem(Item2) Hope that helps. Thanks i got something from ur explanation.....:-) Thaks i my point.....and can u tell wat r d other macro usage...with Activex If you are asking how macros can interact with ActiveX controls, the only way is by using the Invoke command. That's because the Properties, Methods and Events are not directly exposed. The only way to inteact with ActiveX objects from a macro is by using Invoke. If you want to read/write ActiveX properties that happen to be exposed, you can bind a tag to them by right-clicking the ActiveX and selecting Animation-> Properties. Make sure the data type of the tag matches the data type of the property. That's not always easy or possible to do. To trigger an action from an ActiveX event, right-click the ActiveX and selecting Animation-> Properties. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32: Unable to synchronize tag 'systemComStatusString1 An installation of RSView32 on a customer's site sometimes shows this error message on startup: Unable to synchronize tag 'systemComStatusString1'.Cause: Item index (Channel Id) '1' not valid.Cause: Channel not found. The channel configuration is at it's default settings (Network type TCP/IP, Messages 3, no primary comms driver loaded, no secondary comms driver, active driver primary) and the Node is configured to use OPC Server (not Direct Driver, so the channel shouldn't be in use anyway). There are other sites with the same configuration which are not showing this error. Mike ### Assistant: Any time I have trouble with tags, the first thing I try is deleting the project's cache files. Close RSView32, go to the project's folder and delete the entire CACHE folder (highlight it and press DELETE). Next, in the TAG folder, delete the .CAC file. Now restart RSView32 and see if it works. Sorted - finally managed to get set up to grab the customer's PC screen from 5000 miles away and have a dig around. It turned out that the whole HMI project had at some point in the past been copied from one Windows user's documents folder to another, but the shortcut on the desktop to start the project was still pointing at the old one, AND the channel configuration in the old one was corrupted (comprfchannels.csv).... Thanks for your suggestions Jonathon, I'll remember them for the future! Mike n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 activity logging Is this on or off by default (i.e. do I need to execute the ActivityOn command in my startup macro)? I have a project on a customer site which stopped writing activity log files in June 2008. I've opened the project with RSView32 Works and checked through the Activity Log Setup and nothing has changed, so it's a mystery as to why it once created activity logs and now doesn't. Mike ### Assistant: Activity is automatically logged, so if you are not logging activity, something is amiss. If a ActivityOff command is issued, you would have nothing there. Also, there is a finite size on .DBF files. Couldn't remember them off the top of my head, but found them in tech note 33773 - 2GB file size, 2 billion max number of records. That's basic dBase IV of course - don't know if RSView32 has a lower limit than that. I'd recommend cutting a new file and seeing if that solves the problem. Just delete the old files and see if anything new pops in. Only other thing I can think of would be making sure the various activity logging categories are configured to Log to file. You can set this up in Activity Log Setup-> Categories. Hope that helps. Yes, I've checked all of that, all OK. There are 242 files (it's configured to start a new file every day) the largest of which is 2.1MB. The last one, dated 6 June 2008, is only 179KB. No more have been created since then. Very strange. I really need to see the activity logs to try and diagnose an intermittent problem with a display not appearing when a button is pressed. Mike Well, I've done the cleanup procedure (Procedure to cleanup an RSView32 project in the Knowledge Base), deleted all the ALMLOG and ACTLOG files, changed the directories used for alarm and activity logging and re-issued the HMI project to the customer site. The previous project has been deleted, the new one installed, and now alarm logs are being made to the new alarm log location but no activity log files are being created. I'm stumped! If I run the project on my PC (with no PLC for it to connect to) then activity log files do get created. So, could there be any magic registry settings, or anything else, on the customer's PC which is inhibiting the activity log? Obviously there must be, but what could it be? Time to reach for TechConnect I guess... Mike That is truly a stumper. You've covered all the obvious ground. You might try enabling security auditing in Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Local Security Policy and see if any errors show up in the Windows Event Viewer under Security. And as long as you are looking there, check the System event log as well for any errors. Since you changed the directories, this does not seem likely to me, but can you create any sort of file in the directory you are logging to? Any software installed that might block the creation of files? I am really stretching to think of anything that can help - these last 2 suggestions are far-fetched, but that's what I'm reduced to. The really tricky bit is that the machine is in Mexico, and I'm in the UK. I'm trying to get them to hook it up to the internet so I can grab the display. RSView32 creates the directories if they don't exist - e.g. on my PC I changed the alarm and activity log locations to C:TempALMLOG and C:TempACTLOG respectively. The directories didn't exist. I ran the project and it created both directories and .DBF files within them. On the customer's PC it created the ALMOG directory and file(s) in it but not the ACTLOG directory. So it's obviously able to create directories in C:Temp. It seems as though it's just not even trying (however trying it may be...). It's as though something is overriding the activity logging configuration. If they can get it set up so I can grab the display then I'll have a look in the Windows Event viewer & System log. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. Mike Sorted - finally managed to get set up to grab the customer's PC screen from 5000 miles away and have a dig around. It turned out that the whole HMI project had at some point in the past been copied from one Windows user's documents folder to another, but the shortcut on the desktop to start the project was still pointing at the old one, so the activity logs were actually being written to somewhere else (specified by the old project not the one in which I'd been looking at the activity log configuration...). Thanks for your suggestions Jonathon, I'll remember them for the future! Mike n"}
{"text": "### Human: AnswerID 42422 Change DataLog Model in trendX at runtime not working (RSView32 7.5) How can I change the datalog model for my TrendX display at runtime? I need to create around 80 trends using similar tags but from different processes. I dont want to create 80 screens so tried Technote 42422 but this does not change the datalog model only the pen names and colours etc.... graphical changes... Why does it change the pen names but not the Datalog model? Could use the TrendXWrapper but that is yet another ActiveX bolton to get around the problem of dynamically changing pens on a TrendX object.Also for some reason when I copy the project from the development machine to the working machine there is a WINSOCK V6.0 (SP6) dll compatiblity issue. Does the TrendXWrapper use Winsock to access the TrendX object? If so why? I get fustrated copying DLL's and re-registering them on other machines (I have a folder of DLL's and several for Forms2.0!!!) Does anybody have an ideas on how to do this....??? the amount of time I have spent trying to solve this I could have created the 80 screens by now... EDIT:The loading of Templates in Design mode or from Right Clicking in RunTime and selecting the TEMPLATE tab works... Using the INVOKE command as described in the Technote does not change the Datalog model... Thanks WHG ### Assistant: WHG, I used to use templates back in RSTrend, and TrendX is essentially RSTrend in ActiveX form. Templates are intended to change the way a screen looks, not add or change things like datalog models. To do what you are describing with templates would require you to add all 80 tags to the trend and use templates to make them visible or invisible. You are definitely on the right track with using the TrendXWrapper. I did a quick test using the syntax from tech note 22049 and it worked for me - successfully added a tag with a datalog model. Syntax is shown below: Invoke Wrapper.RSView32RSTrendXWrapper1.Pens_Add(MyTag, Tag description, Engineering units, Minimum, Maximum, Datalog model)Also, I did a quick check with Dependency Walker and there is no dependency on WINSOCK.DLL in the TrendX Wrapper. Could there be something else in the project that uses this? Maybe something like a Microsoft Web Browser could use that file. But if you cannot find the control, you can either delete the object in your graphic on the target computer and add it back in OR continue with the Copy / Re-register Tango. Hope that works for you. JonathonKent, Thanks for the reply. I have reorganised my datalogs into twelve comprising of grouped tags from the 80 processes and added all tags as pens to twelve non cached trend screens and used the templates to switch the relevent pens on and off. This works for me... BUT.... The Technote states the DataLog Models can be changed using the INVOKE command... Changing the DATALOG model by rightclicking the Trend at runtime and loading a Template works... Its just the INVOKE command that fials to change the datalog model. I spent hours fumbling around with this to get it to work with lots of notes and tests. I will have to raise it with Tech Support.... I have sucessfully used the TrendXWrapper before as you have described. I appretiate you using DependencyWalker.. Wish I had thought of that, but I may still have to try it because the only ActiveX on the screen that is generating the Winsock.dll error is the TrendXWrapper. Even on a fresh screen with just the Wrapper ActiveX when copied to the clients SCADA PC the error is generated, so I have to put on the works license, delete the ActiveX and re insert it... tedious... that is why I try to avoid ActiveX objects in RSView32. I am still trying to create a dynamic datalog and trend. The datalog is being generated OK but I cant do the Trend so it looks like the Wrapper ActiveX is the only way to go.... ah well..... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Register information of CompactLogix5000 I just want to know that is there any possibility to find out the registers information of compactlogix5000 controller..?..? ### Assistant: space, Not sure what you mean by register information. The CompactLogix series is like the ControlLogix series (uses RSLogix 5000 programming software, etc.), so it doesn't have a numbered array of registers for a data table; instead, it lets you define whatever named Tags you need, of atomic types: BOOL a bit SINT a short --- 8-bit --- signed integer INT a word --- 16-bit --- signed integer DINT a longword --- 32-bit --- signed integer REAL a 32-bit floating-point number (IEEE) You can create tags of system-defined types as well, such as TIMER (done bit, enable bit, timing bit, preset, accumulator), COUNTER (similar), CONTROL (for file instructions), MESSAGE, etc. There are also module-defined types of tags, such as the input and output data structures for various types of I/O cards. Plus you can define your own data types, such as a Motor that has start and stop command bits, plus running, stopping, stopped, starting, faulted bits, a start count, a run time TIMER, etc. So if I have a Tag P101 of type Motor, then I can set P101.Start and can monitor P101.Running. Tags and tag Data Elements (for structures) are given names you define, not pre-defined numbers. As for controller registers (like the S file in a PLC-5 or SLC-500), the CompactLogix / ControlLogix use GSV (get system variable) instructions to read such data, again, by name. So instead of looking at S:18, S:19, etc., to get the date and time, I do a GSV to the WallClockTime class and read the LocalDateTime attribute. I get the data back in an array of year, month, day, hour, minute, second, microsecond. This may sound like more work, but it's just one instruction that populates the array, and there are tons of controller objects/classes and attributes that you can read (and write, for some). Perhaps a good place to start is the 1768 or 1769 CompactLogix Controllers User Manual (1768-UM-001B-EN-P or 1769-UM011F-EN-P). There's also a quick-start document (IASIMP-QS001B-EN-P). All of these are installed on your workstation if you did a default install of RSLogix 5000 software. Go to Help | Online Books and select CompactLogix in the left-hand frame. Or you can download these by publication number from the online literature library. If you have RSLogix 5000 installed and want to know what all the available GSV/SSV objects (equivalent to S-registers) are, go to Help | Instruction Help and select the GSV or SSV instruction (in the Input/Output Instructions section); then click the link to GSV/SSV Objects (close to the bottom of the page) for the list. I hope this helped. Sorry if I did not answer the correct question.... I tried to answer the two I thought of: registers as what does the data table look like and registers as controller-specific data registers. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC-3 Run Mode change privilege violation The PLC-3 memory card is replacement, the code download and upload is ok, The key switch is Meory protect OFF, The Front indicator is (Processor:Green, Outputs:ORED,PROGRAMM:Green, Access:flash ) This indicate that the PLC-3 is programm load mode and no error. But the user can not change mode to RUN Mode when using software 6200. The customer operation is: Online program (F1)==>Proc Function (F1)==>Change Mode(F1)==>Run mode(F3) , select Yes, the information is  privilege violation. The manual (6200-um423_-en-p) chapter 3-8 say  Make sure Remote Enable is selected through LIST. In the List function menu, the system mode (remote Enable) can not be selected. Why and how to do? ### Assistant: Haibowei, Please refer to the PLC-3 Programmable Controllers Installation and Operation Manual, publication 1775-gr001_-en-p, which is available on the Literature Library. See Chapter 6, and specifically section 6.2. Go to the front panel of the PLC-3 chassis, and on the keypad press SHIFT then LIST. You should see the LIST menu items scroll by. Item number 4 will NOT have a star ( * ) by it. [4 REMOTE ENABLE] Press 4 to select this item and press ENTER. You should now see a star ( * ) next to item 4 when the LIST menu scrolls by. [4* REMOTE ENABLE]. Now you should be able to remotely change modes, do programming, etc. You cannot do this from the 6200 software. It must be done on the keypad on the front panel of the PLC-3. Man, it's been a long time! I hope I got that right! Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769-IF8 Analog Values Appear Unstable On All Channels I have recently commissioned an analog input module (1769-IF8) into a customers existing CompactLogix System, however the analog values appear to be unstable in that they are ramping up and down at a constant and very fast rate. When I connect my multimeter in series the 4-20mA signal is very stable. Setup: CPU:1769-L35E Revision 13.15 New Analog Module: 1769-IF8 [slot 23] I used the generic profile to set-up this additional module: Comm Format: Data - INTInput Assembly Instance 101: Size 12 Output Assembly Instance 100: Size 1Configuration Assembly Instance 102 Size 50 I have tried using different data formats in the configuration TAGS, but this makes no difference, in fact if I select engineering format the CPU crashes!! I would be grateful of any support. ### Assistant: Where do all your channels get their power source:- 1) From the same supply? 2) From multiple places from remote instruments that generate their own small signals (4 - 20mA)? Try disconnecting all your channels from their instruments and connecting each channels + and - input such that there is now nothing into each channel.Observe to see if they are still floating all over the place.If not, add your signals back one at a time and observe each time. You may need an isolated input card? post back your results Hal9000, I saw something like this years ago using a different brand of controller. Turned out there was a big ground loop. We had the 4-20mA signal wiring shield tied down at both ends, and the transmitter was mounted to a grounded frame. The signals on the display ramped up and down over the full range with about a 10-second cycle, but a meter on the signal showed all OK. Follow the procedure given by the above post, and as you go, make sure the field wire shields are tied to ground at only ONE point. Ideally there is a ground bus for analog wiring shields and that bus is tied to cabinet/earth ground at only one point. Shields in this case would be trimmed/taped back at every transmitter. Good luck! Signal grounding is often though of as a black art; just draw it on paper and make sure each device is tied to ground at a single point with no loops and you'll be OK. If there are significant ground potential variations, you may need an isolator on one or two channels, or an isolated input card, but if you establish your DC common, earth ground and analog shield ground from a single point, you'll probably have success. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Intelligent producer/consumer communications Producer/consumer communications are an intelligent data exchange between modules and other system devices in which each module produces data without having been polled.The question is that how intelligent it is in data exchange? ### Assistant: Are you quoting a piece of sales or overview literature ? I'm not sure what you're asking for. If you can point to who used the word intelligent, you could ask them what they meant by that. There's no control decisions being made by the communication mechanism, which is what I'd consider to be intelligence. Some folks just throw that word around. Here is the literature 1756-UM058C-EN-P ControlLogix Digital I/O Modules User Manual I quoted. On page 17, you could find the word intelligent. As you mentioned that there's no control decisions being made by the communication mechanism, then why Rockwell Automation consider it to be intelligent? If it is intelligent, then how intelligent it could be? No one replies furter. Could I conclude and tell other people that It's not true for producer/consumer communications used in ControlLogix system to be an intelligent data exchange between modules and other system devices. Some folks just throw that word around? Hi, let me add some considerations here.... For what I can read through the words you've indicated in the User Manual, I can say they've used the word intelligent not to say that this communication has the ability to understand, think and take decisions like a human brain (...some human brains, not all for sure... :smileytongue: )...I think they would like to explain that this concept of data exchange is more efficient than others, the modules are able to send their data without having been polled by a CPU... maybe it would be better if they wish they had used smart or clever instead. Hope this could make things clearer... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: System information I wish to access information from IBM raid servers in a system. One of the servers is an FT View se server.Can FTView access PC data, typically are both hard drives functional in a redundant system. ### Assistant: What sort of information are you wanting to access? There is a lot of information available through VBA, if that is the sort of thing you are after. Can you supply more details about what it is you are trying to do? Hi Jonathan, thanks. The imediate information required is if one of the hard drives on the servers fails, the only meansof knowing is if someone visits the server room and checks the LED status. I have been asked to alarm this on the SCADA system which is FTView SE 5.00 ianc, if could be enough for you to check status infos about the FTView server from the client, try to take a look to Aid 44624 and Aid 40891 for guidelines. There are some VBA code to access the method GetServerState() which will return 15 server states for both the active and standby servers Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic One has to remember that the FT Server is just a service and has nothing to do with hardware at all, thus, not much for interfacing. Your best bet is to configure your server to email someone in IT when a system problem occurs. I know most servers can do this and IBM shouldn't be any different. Sometimes it's specific to vendor software on the server itself but FT logs problems within it's own realm. Although it can detect network disruptions, etc. it's basically based on whether it can communication between server/client connections. Marathon Technologies is one example in where two servers are running a virtual server between them but FactoryTalk thinks it's only one physical server. SE doesn't have any built-in computer hardware failure detection, so no quick and easy way to tell if a hard drive failed that I know of. But I can think of one crude way to do it in VBA - have some code attempt to create a dummy file on the specified drive. If the attempt returns an error, you have reason to believe that the computer and/or hard drive are not available. Maybe something like this?: Sub TestConnectionOn Error Goto ErrHandlerOpen F:Foo.txt For Output As #1Print #1, Writing bogus file to test connection to computer/hard driveClose #1Exit SubErrHandler:'Place desired code here. Could set a tag, display a screen, etc. Example:ExecuteCommand Display ConnectionLost 'assumes you have a graphic called ConnectionLostEnd Sub Haven't tested this, but I think it should work. Feel free to give it a try. Thanks guys, in the early stages of the project. will try the offered solutions n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix STRING data type and ASCII code above 128 Hi, everyone! I'm trying to use STRING data type to store units for different sensors. It works fine for L, kg, L/h, etc. as long as I use symbols from first 128 symbols of ASCII table.But for temperature I want to have degrees symbol whish is 167 in ASCII table. If I use MOV instruction to move 167 to tag.DATA[0] then I get mathematical overflow in CPU minor faults list. Can it be somegow fixed? Code looks like that: ### Assistant: Extended ASCII characters are not supported.... see table of ASCII Characters for Logix Controllers in Aid 41644 String Browser inside Controller or Program Tags will not allow you to enter ALT+ (character number) greater than 127 (the character doesn't appear) Trying to move a value greater than 127 inside a SINT DATA element of a string generates a Minor Fault. Using a COP instruction to move a value greater than 127 inside a SINT DATA element doesn't generate a Minor Fault, but you will see inside your String just the Hex equivalent of that value, not a graphical representation of that character number. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic ayto plThanks a lot, mate! Will tryto play with COP instruction AB, If you are using this data in RSView, then the KB note about the character set may not apply. See the RSView docs for how to display symbols. Each character ( .Data[n] ) is a SINT, which is a signed 8-bit (short) integer, not a USINT or unsigned 8-bit short integer. So the allowable value range for a MOV is -128 (bit pattern = 0x80) to +127 (bit pattern = 0x7F). So instead of MOVing 176 (decimal), MOV in a value of -80 (176 minus 256). The MOV won't throw a minor fault, and RSView may very well display what you intend. Depending on the font you pick for the display field, of course. Use the Character Map tool (Start Menu | Programs | Accessories | System Tools) to pick the font and available symbols. Just stay in the range of 0 to 255 (U+00FF in the tooltip), and if the value is 128 (U+0080) or greater, subtract 256 from it to find what value to put in your MOV. You can do some neat stuff with WebDings, WingDings, Symbol and other fonts typically installed with Windows. Another reason I always have a calculator that can do Hex. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Aftermarket Graphics Library for FactoryTalk Hello, I’m looking for an aftermarket graphics library that can be used with FactoryTalk. I have looked around the web for one and did find Symbol Factory, but is there any other options out there? ### Assistant: google images :) I know Rockwell is working on getting Symbol Factory objects merged into View SE and ME so they can be fully animated. But that won't help you now. On the samplecode side, the View SE InstantFizz application graphics are posted for version 5.0. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Duplicating Factory Talk ME Hi,we would like to install Factory Talk ME on multiple PCs for our customers but leave the activation to him. Would it be allowed to install the software without the activation an ship this to our customer? Of course the customer would purchase a license and then activate it by himself. Best regards Stephan ### Assistant: Yes, you may install the software on every PC you want, then you may activate it later...I mean it is not request you have the activation during the setup. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Per the license agreement [EULA], you may install the software on any number of PCs, it could be a million. However, you may online RUN the software on as many 'seats' at a given time as you have licenses. So if you customer has three licenses, he may run up to three instances of the software at the same time, and keep another 3 on backup, if the machine fails, they can call in and get a license for the backup and get going again. Er I ment 'get another license file/activation and get going again' to avoid any confusion. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation keeps breaking Hello, After an hour on hold my cellphone connection broke so I thought I'd give this a try: We are trying to run RSLinx Classic (v 2.54) as an OPC server for our Windows application. We have a USB dongle and Factory Talk Activation Server running. After some time has passed or sometimes when the system is rebooted, the activation seems to fail. Our .NET software gets a bizarre exception:com object that has been separated from its underlying rcw cannot be used I notice that RSLinx Classic's caption line changes - when working it ends in OEM. When not working it's something like: RSLinx Classic Gateway or RSLinx Classic Gateway Lite. At any rate, when I look at the factory talk diagnostics viewer I see lines like:Checked out a factory talk concurrent activation RSLINX.OEM serial ### Assistant: Hi, already seen this post ? Aid 58391 - Aid 50096 - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply. I don't think 58391 applies in this case, but 50096 might - I'll have to investigate that re-licenser program and its parameters and perhaps create something that runs it periodically. At this moment the activation is still working so I'll probably wait for it to fail again before proceeding. In my original post there was a minor oversight - the license failure wasn't one hour after success, it was 2 days and 1 hour after success. That probably indicates a less frequent problem - I'm guessing due to some driver problem in scanning the dongle. Thanks again. Yeah 50096 will probably take care of it for you. Here is the deal. The activation service is a service, the RSLinx Classic is a services, the dongle drivers, are drivers. Problem, windows loads services before drivers. Solution, is to reload the activation service after the drivers are loaded, same thing with RSLinx Classic or to periodically borrow the activation's down as a service from the server. Either way, requires a little scriptting. Hundred ways to skin this one, that batch file is just one of many. n"}
{"text": "### Human: major fault (type 1 code 1) On page 15-15 in 1756-PM001G-EN-P Logix5000 Controllers Common Procedures Programming Manual described that controller powered on in run mode will cause major fault (type 1 code 1). What is the philosophy for this design? In fact, I tested 1756-L63B controller. I powered off the controller in run mode, and then powered on it after a while. The controller resume to normal operation and no major fault occurred. Is there any mistake? ### Assistant: This fault has been created to prevent the controller from returning to run mode at powerup, if it has been powered off while it was in run mode.The philosophy for this design is quite simple... for example if for some reasons the machine controlled by this PLC has been powered down during normal operation (for example the line power was down)it could be dangerous let the machine starts automatically in run mode when line power returns... if the programmer has not *considered* this possibility, this restart could damage things or cause injuries.... Then, this functionality should be programmed (what you've tested un -L63 was a program where this configuration has not been done :smileysurprised: ).You've to insert a new Program and routine in the Power-Up Handler; also if you leave the routine empty, you'll have that fault come. For sure you may more specifically use this routine to reset the power-up fault, realize some logic and resume normal operation in other tasks. Be aware this Handler will be used by controller only when you will power-up the controller and it is in run mode... and it will NOTprocessed every time you put in run your CPU... :smileysurprised: This Programming Manual at page 17 gives some explanations about the above. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview plus Printer Does anyone have a recommendation for a printer that can be connected to the PanelView Plus for display printing?How do I find a printer that is PCL3 compliant? ### Assistant: The following printers have been tested with PVP / PVP CE: HP Deskjet 5650, 5651, 5440, 6940, 6980, 6988, 9800, D730 They all are PCL3 printers. See also Aid 57669 for instruction about Firmware Revision in the Panelview Plus.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: UID/UIE instructions In RSLogix5000, the UID/UIE instructions can be nested pairs as required. Is there limitation for nested depth? If there are two pairs UID/UIE instructions nested, and there are some rungs between two UIEs, will these rungs be interrupted by other higher priority task or not? ### Assistant: You have to be VERY careful in executing this type of code since it can lock your program into a cycle that actually keeps it from executing any other part of your code, produce communication loss, and just plain ruin your scan time. Personally I would not nest these instructions. Just because you can doesn't mean it's advisable. I don't know of any limitation on nesting instructions but I usually try to think of the person coming behind me that has to troubleshoot the program. UID/UIE does not just set or toggle a flag -- there is a UID count maintained. Since the smallest data type available for counting anything is a SINT, I would ASSUME (Note that I am assuming here!!!) that the count (nesting) could reach at least 127 (largest value for a signed 8-bit integer). Check the RSLogix 5000 Release Notes for information also. I seem to recall that when UID/UIE first came out, there was an issue, later fixed, with the UID count not being cleared on Prescan -- so you could get the controller into a state where you had to put the key in PROG and cycle power to get back. I agree with everything fordtt said about being VERY careful in how you use UID/UIE. You are preventing any other user Task from interrupting, and since periodic/event tasks are higher priority than comms like responding to HMI messages, you can block out your HMI (wireframes) and knock RSLogix 5000 offline. Keep the amount of code in the block down to the minimum necessary, and flag the code with unmissable rung comments describing exactly what you are doing and why. Avoid looping the block (or infinite loops withing the block!) if at all possible. Note that exiting a Routine or Program or Task doesn't automatically restore the UID count to what it was when you entered (or to zero). And as with any special coding technique, test the bejeebers out of it! If it's in a controller, it's probably (eventually, somehow) safety related. Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: SIN Instruction On page 13-2 in 1756-RM003G-EN-P Logix5000 Controllers General Instructions Reference Manual described that the source must be greater than or equal to -205887.4 (-2πx2**15) and less than or equal to 205887.4 (2πx2**15) for SIN instruction. Why is the numbr for the limitation? In fact, I tested the instruction. I input the source value to the upper limit of 32-bit floating point value 3.402823E38 to be ok. Is there any mistake? ### Assistant: cfhung, The specification is probably the input range over which the output of the function is known to some specificed precision. The REAL data type only supports an 8-bit exponent and 23-bit mantissa. In a value like 3.402823E38, you have no way to know what the remaining 32 digits before the decimal are, so you have no way to know where you are in the circle for the sin(x) function, which repeats every 2*pi of the input. Any result from -1.0 to 1.0 could be correct given the precision of the input. Think about this: if I were to subtract 2*pi (6.28....) from 3.4E38 (to get once around the circle), what would happen? I might as well be subtracting zero. I only have 23 bits (8 meg) in the mantissa. If I have a REAL number of 16,000,000.0 and add one to it, I still get 16,000,000.0, because the one is more than 23 bits I have to shift to align decimals to do the add. Even if double-precision floating-point math were supported, you wouldn't get a valid range anywhere near 3.4E38 for the input of sin(x), cos(x), etc. It would be more like 2*pi*2**30 or so -- about +/- 7.0E9. Maybe 2**40 (7.0E12). So there's no mistake. If you take the sine of a number outside the specified range, the result won't be accurate. Far outside the specified range and the result is meaningless. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ Wow, not really to try to add things to what Dale has written.... :smileywink: Just to complete the scenario.... if you use a value outside those boundaries indicated in the manual, you will have a Minor Fault in the controller for Arithmetic Overflow... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: communicating pvp with drive without plc I need to communicate a drive with panel view plus.....but i need not plc via communication,,,,just only i need direct communication is it possible..?if so reply how ### Assistant: That depends on what kind of drive, and what kind of network you have between the drive and the PanelView Plus. PanelView Plus was built to connect to logic controllers, so it's a little hard to convince it that a device that emulates a handful of logic controller communication functions is actually a controller. I have attempted to get a PV+ to communicate with a PowerFlex 70 over EtherNet/IP but have never been able to get it to work. I did once set up a demo where the PV+ communicated with the drive over a 1203-SSS DPI/RS232 converter. I have successfully connected a PV+ to a PowerFlex 40 drive over Modbus RTU using a 1761-NET-AIC signal converter. I have also done that with a PanelView Component terminal. So, what model of drive were you planning, and what communication network do you prefer ? Not really to reply to Sara (we need some more infos as Ken asked), just to require some infos to Ken about this matter.... Ken, I'm pretty sure you know very well both PF70 and Ethernet/IP as weel as all Rockwell Products... so it get me surprised if you cannot be able to setup a communication between two of these products :smileysurprised:Aid 35328 contains instruction about communication between a PVP and a PF70 via Ethernet/IP... is it incorrect / incomplete ? Which problems did you encountered during your tests ? Thanks for your contribution... - fuzzy logic The Technote includes an important trick in which you replace the drive as browsed by RSLinx Enterprise with a manually-inserted ENI-connected device in order to access the PCCC Object. I'm going to try something similar with a PowerFlex 755 tomorrow; it won't give up data through the PCCC Object to RSLinx Classic when I designate it as a PLC-5 or an SLC-5/03+ . n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML1100 to Compactlogix via ethernet I have 4 OEM machines with ML1100 which I will be hooking up via ethernet radios to a central Compactlogix processor. How can I share tags between the RS500 and RS5000 to allow information from both to be displayed on and controlled by my HMI? I have heard of Aliasing 5000 tags as N7:...... to match the 500 address however I have 4 1100's with the same code using the same addresses so I would need to identify which N7:23 I wish to read or write. ### Assistant: I think your question is whether or not the hmi can display and control multiple processors tags on one Ethernet network? if you are using a PV+ then the answer is yes and you can do this from the rs view software by creating multiple tag folders and setting up the communications to point at each processor. Thanks Skull. Yes it is a PV+ at the local station but there will also be SCADA. I do also need to monitor bits from both PLC's within their code, eg when the pump is started by the compactlogix the 1100 needs to open the valve at the other end, if the pressure at the 1100 end exceeds high limit ramp the pump down etc. Con Troll, if you want some indications about data exchange between MX1100 and CompactLogix, then you can take a look to the following technotes, to understand how to configure messages between the two. Aid 36338 - Aid 32926Aid 43384 And the following to understand PLC/SLC mapping in CompactLogix Aid 7355 If you will initiate both message read and write inside CompactLogix, you have not the needs to map data. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MSG instruction MSG instruction On page 3-17 in 1756-RM003G-EN-P Logix5000 Controllers General Instructions Reference Manual provides an example for MSG instruction as attached picture. The one shot instruction prevents the rung from sending multiple messages to the module while the reconfigure[5] is on. Why there is needed for the XIO instruction of change_Halarm.EN? ### Assistant: This bit is used just to avoid sending of a new message in the Message Queue until the message has been sent or is in error.This is a kind of automated sending, so that only when the first message has been sent, the second one enters the queue an so on... This usage leaves some free *room* for other message instructions that needs to be sent. Information about Message Queue and its behavior in the following Programming Manual pag 8. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The message queue holds up to 16 MSG instructions. When the queue is full, an message, say Msg17 instruction, tries to enter the queue on each subsequent scan of the instruction (Msg17.EN=1). When there is room in the queue, the Msg17 instruction is entering the queue and Msg17.EW bit is set. After all the message instructions except Msg17 are sent, the Msg17.ST bit is set. Msg17 instruction start sending data and clear Msg17.EW. After Msg17 data sending is completed, Msg17.DN is set and Msg17.EN is cleared. As long as Msg17.EN is set, using XIC Msg17.EN can avoid Msg17 instruction re-entering the queue again until previous Msg17 data has been sent or is in error. Is the above statement correct? Yes, the statement is correct. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML1100 FRN 9.0 who knew? I had no update that there has been an update to the FRN.Where are the release notes? ### Assistant: Micrologix 1100 frn 9 is downloadable from HERE. Release Notes are available in the Literature Library at this LINK. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thanks, I ended up finding the information. My concern is that I received no update that the firmware was updated. I used to get updates when there where FRN changes. This is a Safety issue with my system. Do you receive alerts when the firmware has changed? Not really, I'm also receiving infos about new releases of firmware, but I miss this one. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic This is what i got from techConnectI am confused I was under the impression that firmware updates where part of the notification system.  We send out notices for PSA's not firmware updates Hmmm. it seems not so true... :smileysurprised: As you can see in the attached image, you may configure notification for Product Changes and Release Notes (I'm pretty sure this is valid for Logix products, I receive these infos periodically) Maybe Micrologix products are not involved in this, but still this is strange... Hope moderators could help on this thread to clarify things.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-oa8d manual does not come up when i search the ab lit library. I found it at http://192.94.123.20/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/1756-in057_-en-p.pdf odd that it can't be found in the ab lit library either by searching on the part number or the doc number. ### Assistant: Hmmm.... I think something is broken in the Literature Library site... it happens sometimes (usually when they are updating that doc)...and then the manual reappears after some days... :smileysad: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&message.id=1898#M1898 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ULTRA 3000 INDEXING DRIVE I have an Ultra 3000 Indexng drive in service that has started going to home instad of performing the indexing move. The drive has been in operation roughly 6 months with maybe 150 hrs of usage. The program for the drive is used on several other machines and has no problems; 1 year in service. The machine is at my customer's facility so I do not have access to it. Has anyone else seen this issue or have any advice they could pass along?Thanks ### Assistant: Hi, this is really strange :smileysurprised: , anyway, are you sure nobody has changed something in its configuration? Do you command actions via Digital Input or network ? Maybe something has changed down there and now the command normally used to index is really used to Start Homing... I think it will be needed to connect the Ultraware in it an see what happens... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the Input.Actions are via Digital Input. The customer has no way of connecting with Ultraware so there is a 99.99% chance nothing has changed. When I left their facility three weeks ago everything was fine and now it is acting up. The technician I spoke to yesterday was wrong I spoke with a different technician later and was informed the it doesn't perform a homing routine it actually goes the opposite direction they are trying to move untill it reaches the programmed limit. Chris Assuming they didn't change configuration using Ultraware, my suspect is that for some reason they are using a wrong Index number...maybe due to some change to the digital inputs connection.... Maybe the Preselect Inputs connections have been modified... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: View SE and VBA What are the most common uses of VBA in FactoryTalk View SE? ### Assistant: Ask that question of a hundred people and you will get a hundred different answers. Here are mine: 1. In SE, you can't automatically display a screen on a client using the Event Detector. So instead, you have to write some code to do this. See tech note 22007 for an example of this. 2. Other than logging data, SE has no way to interface with database. If you want to read/write data (example: recipe data) from a database, you would have to use a database. I could go on and on, but if you search in the knowledgebase for Sample VBA RSView SE you should get quite a lot of hits. Hope that helps. We use it for extended screen navigation features such as: automatically closing a window that has lost focusinternet explorer type screen navigation (forward / back / history etc.)event driven notifications We've also used it to read csv files from disk to manipulate trend definitions etc. This does help. Thanks for the responses. The other examples I had been given were around Multi-Monitor support. It would be good to have some of these VBA examples taken and put into the standard product. One standard use was to check for high & low limits on input data when an operator enters a new setpoint value.That, for example, has been included in the standard product. There is now a setting on the input object to specify the high & low limits, so in this case VBA is no longer necessary. Another use for VBA is to have a popup appear where you click the mouse instead of a pre-specified X,Y position.This is an easy bit of code that's on the popup and nowhere else. Search the Knowledgebase for VBA Sample to get some more recent examples and samplecode. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1791DS-IB16 Product Line? I've noticed that the IB16 devicenet safety input module is kind of half offered. Like, on the configuration and selection tools, it doesn't show up. In many tables listing safety IO, there is an IB12, but no 16. Is this product new, or being phased out? ### Assistant: Hi Vong, 1791DS-IB16 module is newer than -IB12 and was introduced to have more standard I/O quantity and lower price per point.Anyway, it is not so new (it has been released in 2007) to have incomplete documentation... :smileysurprised: For sure there isn't information in Configuration and Selection Tools, as you've noticed, and its Autocad drawing is not available. :smileysad:However you may find information about it in the following literature and sites: Product Profile Installation Manual User Manual A-B Catalog Also you will need RSLogix 5000 profiles to be updated to add these modules inside your configuration (Aid 39750) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks ROK, that helps a lot. I've used them in the past and really liked them, and I'm just about to start a project that may require 20 of the things - I just was afraid I would get everything installed and no more spares would be available :D n"}
{"text": "### Human: Delete Factory Talk Directory How can you delete a Factory Talk directory and I mean really delete? It seams like the uninstalls leave as much behind as they get rid of. I want to uninstall ALL RS software and be able to start from scratch. I do not want to keep hitting gosts of past usages of the computer. I suspect the only way to do this is to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Windows. I really do not want to do this and loose the installs/licenses of all the other software on the computer. ### Assistant: There are methods to complete uninstall FactoryTalk Services from a PC... however they are internal Rockwell Automation docs, and the only way to use them is to call in the Technical Support...they will walk you through the required steps... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic You might consider deleting all files/folders pertaining to Rockwell Software and removing any obvious Rockwell entries in the registry. Other than that, see Fuzzy's answer. Blindly deleting things in the registry can be very dangerous. I have tried this before using search functions and typical AB/RS key words. It had limited sucess. You really need some guide to know where to look. I want to really uninstall everything. RSView, RSLinx, RSLogix. RSLinx is the hardest thing to kill. If AB/RS is going to do so many partial unistalls they should at least have a utililty called Total Clean or maybe Total Scrub. I also wish there was a clean uninstall. Since there is none from Rockwell, you might try a 3rd-party tool such as Registry Clean Expert. You can get this and other tools from the following link:http://www.regclean.us/Speaking personally, I would recommend trying this on a virtual PC before trying it on a real system. While I haven't used this one, I have used the old Microsoft RegClean tool, but that is no longer available from Microsoft and was never really supported on Windows 2000 and above. Yes, there is a way to do that. As fuzzy says, though, it is a Rockwell internal only document. However, TechSupport will be able to walk you through that procedure, if you call in. (It'd be hard to do it over a chat, since you have to reboot a couple times.) Now, the reason why: If it isn't done EXACTLY right, it can cause more harm than good. As you said, deleting registry entries is not something to be done lightly. Also, FactoryTalk is integrated into more than just FactoryTalk Studio. Often folks want to completely remove the Studio stuff, not realizing that something like RSLogix 5000 is going to go belly up, too. Since you're trying to get rid of ALL Rockwell products and start over from scratch, the procedure is probably a good idea for you. Give us a call. If someone tries to talk you out of it, tell 'em to come talk to me! :) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus 1250 Unable to Communicate. Dear All, What the reason Panelview Plus 1250 can't communicated with EtherNet/IP (1756 - ENBT)?I tried to changed the new EtherNet and cable (cross over) but still had problem. We have 3 machine the same parameter and setting, all parameter for setting configuration almost same. One of 3 machines now can communicate. Thanks ### Assistant: What is the error message you are seeing? Remember that an RSLinx Enterprise shortcut must point to a controller, not just to a 1756-ENBT. If you post the RSLinx Enterprise configuration as well as the 1756-ENBT configuration it might help a Forum member see what is wrong. Hello Ken, Thanks replied my note. What i see is the panelview can't start up RSLinx on the screen before start up theapplication. What should i do? I'm agree with Ken, more details are needed... also it is not so clear to me your last post... do you see an error about RSLinx Enterprise at PVP startup ? Type in the EXACT error message... Which is the firmware / software are you using ? Is there already an application in the Panelview that tries to start at powerup ? - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, No error appear during start up, only all Data from PLC error.I tried to communicate direct to my laptop, but still not see the Panelview.My laptop can communicate with other PV, using same configuration and PLC file.How can i download the new sofware or frimware? Thanks Well, try to see if you can ping the Panelview Plus over Ethernet... If you cannot, then I suggest to check in the Configuration Setup of the PVP the IP address configured, and in case change it to one compatiblewith your network. After you can succesfully ping it, try the following:Make sure you configure your ethernet driver and DF1 under your Target tab in RSLinx Enterprise. If you do not then the Serial and ethernet drivers are disabled in the RSLinx Enterprise in the terminal. Rebuild the MER.On the PanelView Plus go to: Terminal Settings --> Network and Communications --> RSLinx Enterprise Communications --> Restore Default.Delete the MER from the terminal and then reboot the terminal.After the reboot you should be able to see the PanelView Plus now in RSLinx Enterprise.View the terminal in the local tab before trying to upload/download. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Are you able to successfully test run the app from Studio and get data from the processor? More often than not in this situation, I find that the reason no data is showing up is because the app has invalid tags on everything. If it won't test run and get data, it'll never run for real in the PV+. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Is it possible to communicate 1734-AENT and 1756-ENBT via a layer 3 switch? I know that Ethernet I/O control and Produced/Consumed tags will not communicate via a router. But is it possible to establish the communication of 1734-AENT and 1756-ENBT via a layer 3 switch(and 1734-AENT and 1756-ENBT are in the same subnet).Is there anyone has the experience. Thanks. ### Assistant: If the devices are on the same IP subnet, they should have no problem communicating with one another. Exactly what make and model of Layer 3 switch are you using ? Are the devices plugged into the same physical switch ? Unless your Layer 3 switch separates the devices via VLAN or some other feature, there should be no trouble communicating between the two. Hi Ken,The switch we are using is Cisco IE3000 with VLAN configured.1734-AENT and 1756 ENBT are in the same subnet(1734-AENT 10.25.74.23 1756-ENBT 10.25.74.8) and plugg into the same physical switch.I know that ethernet controling IO has a TTL=1. And when the packet go through a router,TTL will be set to 0. Maybe it also occures for layer 3 switch. That should be how my problom come from. As long as you have not configured separate VLANs for the ports these devices are using, they ought to be able to connect to one another. The IE3000 is nearly identical to the A-B Stratix 8000, which is used in A-B's reference architectures for Logix and EtherNet/IP. What is the error code in the connection between the 1756-ENBT and the 1734-AENT in RSLogix 5000 ? Can you PING and browse the 1734-AENT in RSLinx Classic to prove it's on the network at the appropriate address ? You can communicate via a router but you have to use Unicast instead of Multicast Now I'm sure that it is prossible to establish the communication of 1734-AENT and 1756-ENBT via a layer 3 switch and my problem comes from the configuration of the switch. I've ask the IT guys to check it.Thank you for the help. n"}
{"text": "### Human: GetDataLog Has anybody used the GetDataLog utility? Can it be used via ethernet? I have started to read thru some of the help files, set up a queue in a program (remote) and tried to query the queue with no success. ### Assistant: I've used it via Ethernet to a Micrologix 1100 with success. Just follow the simple instructions in Aid 60284. Did you get errors or info inside its information list? - fuzzy logic Did you use a DLG instruction to right to the Data file? I was able to create a que and use the GetDataLog.exe to run but was never able to right to the que. When I add the DLG instruction the program errors and drops offline. I assuem that I can set the rung to execute the DLG instruction on the state of a Input to right to the que anytime the value went true to false. Hi, attached is a screenshot of what I've realized for tests. Toggling B3/0 two or three times, will save some data to datalog, and I'm able to retrieve these data using the Read Datalog icon in Datalog Extract Utility; after that, the data in the PLC Datalog Queue are deleted. I suggest to indicate in a post the RSLogix500 version, Micrologix type with series and firmware release, and the exact errors text you get trying to realize the above. - fuzzy logic yep all the same as you have it. I am unable to compile. Getting the error Program could not be compiled! Online edit error going offline. are you setting your ML1100 using Online editing or are you hard wired? Hi, try to prepare the ladder code offline, then download it.... after this procedure, you may use online edit and probably you will not get the error. Aid 33157 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yep, That works. Thanks for your input. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 40 trips GFCI I have a 120v PowerFlex 40 that trips a GFCI when you press the start funtion. Works fine when on a non GFCI circuit. Whats causing the GFCI to trip? ### Assistant: This is quite normal, and usually it happens due to filtering...the filter works by filtering the noise down to earth which would cause the GFCI to trip. Follow the instructions in the User Manual, page 1-7, and use a Type B RCD Also take a look to the following technotes: Aid 40028 - Aid 40632 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, I looked at the 1492-RCD devices. Looks like they only have 230 volt. No 120v. Yes, unfortunately the RCD from RA are only to be used in a 230/400 Vac range. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC-5 and Modbus Is there a way to use a PLC-5 with Modbus? Maybe a stupid question, but I could not find any post regarding PLC-5 and modbus. I know when I did an application with SLC I had to buy a RS-232 to RS-485 converter. ### Assistant: PLC-5 serial port cannot be configured as Modbus Master / Slave. :smileysad:So you will need either a module in the chassis to support this communication, or a gateway. Most used I think is the one from Prosoft , MVI71-MCMFor Gateway, see this LINK Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the info, I will check it out. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT view studio CPR 9 - Fail to creat object when creat Alarm and Events summary on Graphic display Hi all, I have creat Alarm and Events summary on FT View Studio CPR 9 in SE local application.But I could not be created. Please advise me to clear this issues. Thanks and RegardsDuong HL ### Assistant: I have not run across this error with FTAE, but usually the message Failed to create object refers to an ActiveX problem. Usually it is not installed or properly licensed. In your case, since this installs as part of the FactoryTalk Alarms and Events, you might try repairing the installation of that and the FactoryTalk Service Platform. Speaking of the FTSP, what version do you have? If you have both CPR9 and CPR9 SR1, see tech note 58877 for a suggested uninstall/reinstall procedure. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Embedded variables in RSView ME 5 Alarms I have a small application running in a Controllogix L61 processor that uses a PanelView+ 1250 for the HMI. Using embedded variables to read a string from the PLC for the alarm message, if points are in alarm when the terminal is shut down and restarted it displays ????? for the message, presumably because the alarms start before the data is read. Is there anyway to delay alarms starting until communication is good? This is a stand alone system with both the terminal and ENET card set for static IP, full duplex 100 mbs data. Any other suggestions? ### Assistant: Alarms are typically triggered by an event. When the event happens, then the alarm message is read, displayed, etc. You could trigger off the communication status to re-read the alarms. You will need to re-trigger the alarms that are existing to re-display them. In some applications, I've use a FSC instruction to compare for alarms and use a GSV instruction to look for the Panelview active on the network. If it is, then retrigger an event or reset the alarms. If something is still in alarm, then it generally will come back. I latch the alarms in the plc but just temporarily (using a retrigger bit) remove the alarm bit that the panelview is looking at. The latched alarm puts the alarm back into an active state and the panelview redisplays the message. Not the cleanest way of doing it but it works. You can't delay the launch of the alarming subsystem in ME (although you can in SE). So here are some thoughts:1. Are you using language switching? In some cases ??? are displayed if I have text in an undefined language.2. Can you duplicate the problem on a computer running ME Runtime? If so, take a look at your FactoryTalk log for clues n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet msg from Control to Compact Logix I was going to use a MSG instruction to communicate from a controllogix processor to acompactlogix processor. I want to read/write from a UDT created especially for messagetransfer. do the UDT types have to be the same in both controllers? I.E in my controllogix if i havethe UDT as Machine_Control,does the UDT type in the compact have to be labeledMachine_Control as well? do the tags also have to be the same? thanks for your help ### Assistant: Both the names and the internal structures of the UDTs must be the same in both controllers for an MSG instruction to work between them. If the UDTs consist of nested/embedded UDTs, then the names of the nested UDTs must be the same as well. The tagnames don't have to be the name. You could call the source CompactData_to_be_Read and call the destination Data_from_the_Compact_Controller. But the Data Types and the name of the UDT must be the same. In the MSG instruction configuration tab, if a UDT is used (and identically defined in both the source and destination) how may 'Number of Elements' are defined? Is it '1' since it is a single UDT or is it the number of 16-bit elements within the UDT? Thanks. The number of elements you read/write depends on the type of data you are using. An element refers to one “chunk” of related data. For example, tag timer1 is one element that consists of one timer control structure. So, if you want to exchange only one tag that uses a structure you've defined, you have to enter '1'. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Manual for a 1746-QV Module All I can find on the 1746-QV module is a quick start guide, and it is old. Is there a manual on this module? ### Assistant: Here we are... :smileytongue: User Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks a bunch! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Allen Bradley breakers and motor starter I am working on some short circuit study but I can't find any information on the following items: G100 series breaker 10AG500 series breaker 50AG150 series breaker 15AManual motor starter, 140-MN-0400 ### Assistant: If you're searching infos about 1492-CB, try to take a look to the following links: http://www.ab.com/en/epub/catalogs/12768/229240/999999/9999999/3170943/index.htmlhttp://www.ab.com/en/epub/catalogs/12768/229240/999999/9999999/3170943/tab5.htmlhttp://192.94.123.20/idc/groups/literature/documents/td/1492-td011_-en-p.pdf About 140-MN, see Aid 31534 Considering the obsolescence of certain items, it is difficult to find out those infos, that are available on old Catalogs...I suggest to call your local Rockwell Automation representative to get more informations. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks a lot! n"}
{"text": "### Human: HSCE2 processor fault Hi All;I am trying to install an HSCE2 counter module in a 12 slot backplane with an 1747-L551C 5/05 cpu with 16k ram. series c FRN 10. I have initiated the card per the users manual 6-7 thru 6-10, ladder logic and integer values.I get an service request from slot 9 (slot number of counter card) not supported by processor. Is it lying or do I need a differant processor????? any help would be much appreciated.ThanksDanny ### Assistant: the issue is that the hsce2 ack bit never turns on, I:slot#/15. anyone know a reason for this? I have tried class 1 and class 4 using application examples in section 6 of manual.ThanksDanny Hi Danny, I suggest to add some informations about led status of the HSCE2, and if you get a Major Fault on controller, the EXACT description and the Hex fault code. Are you sure do you correctly modified the ladder examples to be used in your program ? (slot number, data files etc.) - fuzzy logic The Status lights (leds) on the card are normal just the green run light and a of 1 encoder and b of another.the error code that I get in the processor is 95D hex, interupt from slot 9 not supported by processor. I have tried 2 differant sample programs changing the integer values accordingly. it copies the first word but I never get the acknowledge bit to copy the next.thanks for the prompt reply.Danny I talked with tech support today and suspect I have a Faulty module, I have another on the way, I'll let everyone know if it fixes my problem. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Better RSView32 Graphics Has anyone tried creating or obtaining some better graphics for use within RSView32? Of course we use all the library graphics and have the Symbol Factory applications, but we've had several customers lately who have asked for more lifelike graphics with depth, perception, shadows...all the 3D stuff. One of them gave us a web site to see for examples which is http://www.southernflowinc.com/hmi.htm. I've had some success with different bitmaps and visibility animations but they are cumbersome. I'd like to know how the graphics we're created in Symbol Factory that can be ungrouped inside RSView for animations. ### Assistant: Yes, I also wish there were some better graphics libraries. Other than the ones in the KB and various 3rd-party sources, there are none. However, keep in mind that the complicated graphic objects tend to take more computer resources to display and to not work well with any animations except for Visibility. Beyond what you already know, you could try doing a Google image search and see what comes up. But as I said,graphics consume resources, so keep it to a minimum. It would definitely be a trade off between fluff and performance. I guess it would come down to what the customer wants knowing all the information. Sometimes its the 'fluff' that counts. I've won more work in the past by making awesome screens and then showing them to other customers who tend to say yes I want it to look like that I've had similar experiences, especially now that things seem to be more competitive than they once where. Something's got to make us stand out a little from the crowd. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ultra5000 couldn't get new inertia after attached a load motor our product are ultra5000 and MPL-430P-H motor, use ultraware control. we can get a new inertia after attached a gear to MPL-430P-H, but when we attached our load motor, we couldn't get a new inertia and enter intor error code 23. How shall we do with that problem? ### Assistant: Here some informations about error 23: Aid 41244 - Aid 59164 It seems you've problems with over temperature due to excessive load.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Allen Bradely monitor Replacement Problem I have an Allen Bradely monitor by the specs of 6186-M15ALTR Series B version A what is teh exact series and version now to replace this monitor ### Assistant: The last version of these monitors is Series E Rev. B In the next couple of months, there will be a new release of 6186M Monitors, with a technology *refresh*... they will be compatible with the actuals (same cut-out) , but will have a new catalog number : 6186M-15PT and will be series F. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Host Index instruction Ultra 3000 (Host Command) Hello.I am using a MicroLogix1200 to send commands to an Ultra3000, When I tried to change the Host index data the Ultra does not change it and it does not answer the serial command (the buffer is empty). I checked the send data by using the hyper terminal and it is right. When use the Ultra HostCommand Ultraware this instruction only works when I have open the Indexing control Panel, if this control panel is closed the instruction does not works neither.The instructions that the Ultra is responding are: enable drive, disable drive and start index (send from PLC and Ultraware).Is there anything else I can check??? Why the Ultra is not developing the instructions I sent?The command I am using to change the Host index is::000B810164<cr>Also, I tried to read the actual index without success.Thanks !!! :smileywink: ### Assistant: Hi Queen, unfortunately I'm not an expert on that... just trying to give helps... :smileytongue: The command syntax and checksum seems correct... just did you set the drive for Host Control Mode - Host Indexing (0x061) before trying the Host Index command ? Page C-7 of the Host Commands Reference Manual reports the correct sequence... - fuzzy logic Hello Fuzzy, It seems yesterday I was not setting the driver for Host Control mode, Its working now.Thanks a lot !! Have a nice day:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Master Disk support Hi, I would like to know when the Master Disk activation will be remove? We have some old licences that aren’t on our contract support (TechConnect) and we are still using Master Disk to activate them. Thanks! (Sorry for my English, I'm French speaking) ### Assistant: Martin, Master Disk (EVRSI) Activation will not works with future releases of Rockwell Software products..original plan was to support it until CPR10, now it seems there will be an extension beyond that CPR... see FactoryTalk Activation FAQ... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic New product there will not be master disk for.Existing products, it's a matter of quality. If you notice the evrsi tool is at version 4.x It took 4 major revisions to get all the kinks out and things microsoft changed, etc.They are still making changes to the FTA system, Rockwell will not be happy until they get everything right before they yank EVRSI away.I know for example, the next release of the FTA Tool will only have one tool, and end having two. Too many cases of installing the wrong tool adding time and frustration. So, CPR 10 was the first goal date, but it will likely not happen as they are introducing a new set of tools then and will need to see how things go. They will make an announcement, this is something that effects all their software products, in every environment. How can we get more familar with the factory talk activation ?? I still using also master disk and worked ok. I keep pushing the limit to run on factory talk every sofware updated !!!! Ask your distributor for a few temporary activations. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory talk activation Hi where i can learn a little more from factory talk activation and the way it needs to be setup, i'm still using my activation disk. ### Assistant: There is a good FAQ in the knowledgebaseFor practice have your distributor give you a temporary activation or two. Here are the general rules.Most licenses are concurrent, those that are nodelocked for the most part have a concurrent alternative.Concurrent licenses can be ran locally or in a floating environmentWhere ever the concurrent license is being installed you must install the activation server.If no license exists or they are only node locked you can install the client as an option to avoid the service being installed. The licenses are tied to one of 3 possible IDs. NICs (do this only in server environments) Hard Drives ( The typical) and Dongles (For when network connectivity is not good or an option, but you want to move the licenses around) Past that, read the FAQ Here the link to the FAQ in the Knowledgebase, mentioned by Ozzy. Also, there are many useful videos you may watch to learn about usage of FactoryTalk Activation, in the Quick Start section of the Activation Support Site. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inview display numbers with decimal point I have a INVIEW display 2076-p22r and Iam trying to get it to display numbers with decimal points in them. What I have tried is to break up my number into 2 different variable inputs and just put a period between them. Which works fine until I get a variable like 06 and then the inview wont display the 06 it just displays 6. Any Ideas? ### Assistant: Hi mommy.... try to see if Aid 24006 could help on that... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Safety Tags Mapping I am using a L61S to do some VSD control. Using a .CSV file i can import both my standard and safety tags, but is there a way i can import my mapping structure from standard to safety, or do I sitll have to do this manually? ### Assistant: No there isn't....you have to enter the tags to map directly in the table. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rockwell software check for activations.... Hi, When I open RsLinx Classic Lite version, the splash screen wait on Checking Activations but, my activations are on my hardisk (Evrsi.sys and 386swap.par) in my Rocksoft.ini file, I've already put CHECKDRIVES=C parameter and add System variable environnement: CHECKDRIVES=C. All Rockwell Software hung on splash screen (60 sec.) when my NIC card is enable. But If I disable my NIC, All Rockwell Software start normally (2-3 sec.) Anyone have any idea??? I'm out of ressource... Best regards Dany Desbiens ### Assistant: Hmmm, effectively all the technotes talking about this problem seems to give the same solution as you've already tried without success.... Aid 25163 - Aid 21754 - Aid 36198 - Aid 6270 Try to call in the Support guys, maybe they will give you a better solution... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I've already call the activation support team but, the guys doesn't have any solution... They opened a case number... Dany Desbiens Are all of your licenses EVRSI?If so make sure you don't have the factorytalk activation tool installed., as RSLinx used to get hung if there was an activation in FTA but not for it's use. 2nd, alternatively, RSLinx might be hanging trying to initialize the driver and it's not an activation's issue. Uninstall and reinstall RSLinx and see if the problem goes away for this. Question if neither of those works what version of RSLinx are you using? First, All my license are EVRSI. 2nd, I've already uninstall then reinstall RsLinx Classic Lite 2.51, and the problem still there. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 400 Fram size H overtemp trip I am having trouble with a VSD. Even if it has only been running for 2 minutes, then it comes up with a HeatSink OverTemp (F008) error. There seems to be an error with the sensing circuit since it tells me that the temperature is 140 deg C (B014) but it is NOT – if I switch the drive completely off and wait for it to discharge before switching on again (approx 3 minutes), then it comes up fine with a temperature of only 41 or so degrees C.All of them are 22C-D460A103 Series A, Manuf 19 August 2008, ### Assistant: It could be a faulty sensor...anyway, try to see if all the fans start when PF400 starts by run command....if just one of the fans doesn't start, then you have to replace it. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy, will try this, but the drive will also be going back to RA for testing on their request. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Files for VS utilities Pls let me know from where I can get the following files for VS Utilites Ver 4.02.60002280102.bin04090228000000.chm0002280103.binthis files are for Relianc MD-65 ac drives . ### Assistant: To which (I guess Reliance ?!) drive are those files related (catalog #, model, version) ? Maybe this could help some Forum users to reply ... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RTS vs RPI In the case that a remote analog input modules connected via ControlNet, because it is the RPI and NOT the RTS which dictates when the module’s data will be sent over the network, Rockwell Automation recommended that the RPI value be set LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO the RTS to make sure that the updated channel data is received by the owner-controller with each receipt of data. However, if the RPI value be set EQUAL TO the RTS, then each RPI will be reset by RTS, and RPI will never be happen. How could the owner-controller receive the data from that module in this case? ### Assistant: The RTS is different than the RPI. Since you mentioned connection via ControlNet, the RPI is more relevant to the network update time (NUT) rather than the RTS of the module. The RTS is merely the update time of the module itself, collecting or sampling the data connected to the module and is independent of the processor. The RPI is the time frame that the process can request data from the module or the controlnet adapter. If the RPI is faster than your RTS, then you'll receive updated data. If the RPI is slower than the module sampling, then you'll miss data, especially if you're using the time-stamping feature. The RPI must be greater than the NUT, which is a time alotted to the network to gather ALL the information connected to that controlnet segment. Your modules may be sampling at 2.5ms but there is no way your controlnet network can gather all the data available in 2.5ms. Rather wordy but hope it gives some light on your question. Thanks for the detailed explanation for RTS vs RPI. If the value of RPI is greater than RTS for AIO module in the remote chassis connected with ControlNet, the updated data will be lost indeed. But what will happen if the value of RPI and RTS is set to the same number? The RPI is in the RSLogix configuration and controls how often the processor requests information from the I/O. It doesn't matter how fast or how slow the RTS is regarding the RPI. The RPI is determined by the network update time (NUT) when you configured your ControlNet network. You can't request information faster (RPI) faster than your network scanner can update the information (NUT). Your RTS will almost always be faster than the RPI simply because the RTS information is at the module and the processor is on the network. You can have the RTS and RPI set to the same number because they're independent of each other. If you have an RPI of 5ms (good luck), then it will try to automatically adjust your controlnet configuration when you schedule the network to the fastest time you specified. The RTS for, all practical purposes, has nothing to do with the RPI especially when dealing with ControlNet. On page 2-5 of ControlLogix Analog I/O Modules user manual 1756-UM009B-EN-P described that it is important to note that the module will reset the RPI timer each time an RTS is performed. Page 2-7 described that when remote analog I/O modules are connected to the owner-controller via a scheduled ControlNet network, the RPI and RTS intervals still define when the module will multicast data within its own chassis (as described in the previous section). Could we conclud that no matter whether an analog I/O module is installed in local or remote chassis, the module will reset the RPI timer each time an RTS is performed? If so, how could we say that the RTS for, all practical purposes, has nothing to do with the RPI especially when dealing with ControlNet? While it is true it resets the RPI, look at the last paragraph on page 2-5 about them being the same (for direct-connected local I/O) in that it's multicasting at the RTS rate. The reason for the resetting the RPI timer is that if good data is received within that time-frame, no need to wait the full amount of time. If your RPI is FASTER than the RTS, then you'll only receive updated data at the RTS rate. You can't get faster data than the module is prepared to send it. For remote I/O via Controlnet, the RPI and RTS still define that data within its own chassis but the RPI still determines how often the processor receives data over the network. The next two paragraphs on p. 2-7 also agree on what I mentioned in the prior post: The timing of this “reserved” spot may or may not coincide with theexact value of the RPI, but the control system guarantees that theowner-controller receives data at least as often as the specified RPI. The “reserved” spot on the network and the module’s RTS areasynchronous [bold added] to each other. This means there are Best and Worst Casescenarios as to when the owner-controller will receive updatedchannel data from the module in a networked chassis. I didn't mention local I/O in the first post since your topic delt with Controlnet. You can request information (low RPI) as fast as you want but the data you get may or may not be updated as fast as you think it is if based solely on the RPI. The controlnet network can only update data so fast. If you request a 5ms RPI but your network can only deliver updated information every 20ms, then you're using a lot of bandwidth for nothing. Thanks again for the detailed instruction about RTS and RPI. But my question is that if the RPI value be set EQUAL TO the RTS, then each RPI will be RESET by RTS, and RPI will never be happen. Is that true? If not, why? Hi, not really to add something more than fordtt has already written (and well explained), but let me try to say something on this thread... To answer your last question: YES this is true, RTS will always reset the RPI timer. Then, what is important to understand is that this doesn't mean that the module data are not updated in the processor through the Controlnet network because the RPI will never happen.... this just means that the module multicasts data in that remote chassis only at RTS. Controlnet *knows* that you want to receive data in the processor at least as often that RPI (the time you've indicated in the RPI field ! ) and will do *the best* to obtain this. So, the time you've indicated in the RPI field for that module is used by the network cpu to reserve a correspondent time spot in the data flow coming from that Controlnet adaper. Now, about the suggestion in the manual: Because it is the RPI and NOT the RTS which dictates when the module’s data will be sent over the network, we recommend the RPI value be set LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO the RTS to make sure that updated channel data is received by the owner-controller with each receipt of data. It seems to me quite clear, but trying to say that using other words... if you set an RPI of 20ms and an RTS of 5 ms (it is just an example...) then your module will continue to multicast data in that remote chassis every 5 ms, but the Controlnet will reserve a time spot for these datas to go to the processor only every 20 ms; so, it could be considered not so useful...I mean, if you are interested to receive data from that module every 5 ms, then you have to instruct the Controlnet (using RPI value ... :smileysurprised: ) to reserve a spot in the data flow at least every 5 ms... Hope this clears things... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy. Too bad I didn't have a whiteboard to draw it out on.....I can draw better than I type. I appreciate fordtt's and fuzzy logic's enthusiasm for answering my question. One point I don't understand is the statement that the RPI will be reset by RTS. Let's use fuzzy logic's example. If we set an RPI of 20ms and an RTS of 5 ms then the module will continue to multicast data in that remote chassis every 5 ms indeed. Because RPS will be reset by RTS every 5 ms, so RPI will never time out. In this case the RPI will never be happen. It seems that the setting value of RPI is equivalent to infinity (no time out). So the controller will never get updated data (no RPI happened). However fuzzy logic mentioned that the ControlNet will reserve a time spot for these data to go to the processor every 20 ms. It seems that there is no different for RPI time out or not. If so, try to answer the following question: If RPI will not be reset by RTS, than what will be the difference? Each I/O module has it's own RPI which tells the module how often to send out (multicast) it's contents (data). However, it your RTS time is GREATER than the RPI and the RPI times out, it gets whatever data the module has, whether it's up-to-date or not. If the RTS is less than the RPI, then each time it requests data, the data will be up-to-date. Since your question was specific to remote I/O via ControlNet, the RPI determines how often the owning controller receives the data over the network. Don't get too hung up on resetting the RPI since this is for local chassis. The main concept you need to determine is how fast do you need the data in your processor. You have to do a little more planning when using Controlnet since the network update time (NUT) HAS to be figured into your RPI calculation. Typically, the RPI needs to be at least twice the NUT time. If the fastest network update time you can have (based on the slowest device on your segment) is 5ms, then the RPI should be 10ms. If your analog module is multicasting every 2.5ms, then when the RPI times out and requests information, the data on the analog module is current. If your RTS is 100ms, then you'll get the same exact data several times in a row because your controller is requesting it every 10ms. Like I said, don't worry too much about the RPI being reset but know that when you set the RPI time, the controller will do it's best to retrieve data within that time frame. RPS will be reset by RTS in local chassis only, and RPS will not be reset by RTS in remote chassis. Is the above statement correct or not? No, this is not correct ! RPI and RTS works the same way in both the local and remote chassis, main difference is that in local chassis they will send data directly to the controller, in the remote chassis they serve to multicast data within their own chassis, and the time you enter in RPI field is considered by the network as the time to be reserved in the flow of data toward the owner controller. RTS will always reset the RPI timer. As also fordtt wrote, it is not so important in the remote chassis the fact the RPI is reset....I mean, the Controlnet network knows in any case when to reserve a spot of time in the data flow based on the value you've entered in the RPI of that module. So, again, to figure out with an example, assume you've configured your analog module with a RTS of 40ms and a RPI of 80ms.... Data within the remote chassis are updated when RTS multicasts module data, so every 40 ms... RPI will always be reset and so, it will never multicast data in this remote chassis; anyway, the Controlnet will reserve a spot in data flow to the owner controller every 80ms, to let the data of that module to be sent. The timing of this “reserved” spot may or may not coincide with the exact value of the RPI, but the control system guarantees that the owner-controller receives data at least as often as the specified RPI. Hope it is clear now... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic It is important in the remote chassis the fact the RPI is reset. Because this is the key point for clarifying of this thread. As fuzzy logic mentioned, every 40 ms... RPI will always be reset and so, it will never multicast data in this remote chassis; It seems that there exist another timer for every 80ms to reserve a spot in data flow to the owner controller, and this timer will not be reset by RTS. If not, then the RPS timer will never time done. In this case how could the Controlnet reserve a spot in data flow to the owner controller every 80ms? The time we entered in RPI field is considered by the network as the time to be reserved in the flow of data toward the owner controller indeed. But no time done no action, shouldn't there exist a timer to be time done every 80ms for achieving of this purpose? I wonder if I have well expressed what my point is? :smileysurprised: Basically, when you have to run a Controlnet network, after you've configured all your nodes and modules, you need to schedule the network, giving it a NUT and using RSNetworx for Cnet. In that moment, the software reads the value you have entered in the RPI for your modules, and configure the system to reserve the spot we mentioned many times in this thread. Now, in the last example we are discussing, I'm agree NEVER the RPI will multicast data, only the RTS will do in this configuration; you then have two cases: Best Case RTS Scenario In the Best Case scenario, the module performs an RTS multicast with updated channel data just before the “reserved” network slot is made available. In this case, the remotely-located owner-controller receives the data almost immediately. Worst Case RTS Scenario In the Worst Case scenario, the module performs an RTS multicast just after the “reserved” network slot has passed. In this case, the owner-controller will not receive data until the next scheduled network slot. So, remove the timer question from your mind: Controlnet *knows* when transfer the requested data to the owner controller since the network scheduling; in this example, you will only have RTS multicasts data, the module will not do RPI multicast. The RPI is not used to trigger the data transfer to the owner controller in a remote chassis ! Again, it has 2 functions :multicast data within its own chassis (when not resetted by RTS !)instruct the system to reserve the spot in the data flow What else ? :smileywink: - fuzzy logic You have to remember that every packet, every connection on a controlnet network needs to be scheduled. You can have unscheduled communication but it's not guaranteed to have a specific update time due to the fact unscheduled uses remaining leftover bandwidth. Since the communication is scheduled the controlnet interface (the Keeper) knows what data to expect within a particular timeframe, and from whom....therefore the reserved spot in data. In your post you mention ANOTHER timer every 80ms....this other timer is the RPI in the owning controller. The controlnet interface module (the keeper) coordinates between the RPI and the NUT to poll the data from the network. These timers don't work like a normal timing instruction in logic but coordinate together to ask for and receive data in a predictable manner. Basically, the module will produce it's data at the RTS rate. The controller will receive the data at the RPI rate IF the controlnet network can deliver it that fast. If the module produces data every 40ms and the controller just updated it's data (every 80ms), then the module will produce another stack of new data in another 40ms BUT the controller won't read it because it's only requesting the data every 80ms. Again, don't get too hung up on whether the RPI is reset or not. You select how fast you want the module to produce data, select how fast you want the controller to read the data, schedule the network. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Message within ALMA / ALMD Instructions Does anyone know if the message within the ALMA and ALMD Instructions will ever be accessible. I think using these Instructions are very valuable, and almost everything is accessible except the message. From my knowledge these have to be hard coded using Logix. It would be beneficial to me to be able to use an HMI to access these tag messages and be able to change them. Any Input is greatly appreciated ! ### Assistant: You cannot programmatically access the alarm message string from the alarm tag. To change the alarm message based on a specific event or be exposed to the processor or an HMI, configure an Associated tag of data type String then embed that associated tag in the message.Create a tag of type String in the ControllerOpen the Alarm properties, click on associated tag and browse for the String tag you created for option 1Click on the Ellipses on the message field that should open the Alarm message editor.Add a variable and Select the associated tag and click on the ADD button.Now the String tag should be exposed to the Controller and the HMI.Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy Logic, Thanks for the quick answer. I have found that answer within Knowledge base, but didn't know whether or not there was any other way or if they will make the message tag accessible in future versions of Logix. The problem I have is that I am trying to use what the instruction has created, and without having access to the instruction's message directly, to log into a ControlLogix history program (previously created by my predecessors) I have double the tag count and programming for each alarm. If that is the case having several hundred alarms to convert, I will just leave them as is. My predecessors have essentially created what the ALMA and ALMD could possibly replace. We don't like to rely on a PC to log history (via SE), and would rather keep record of it in the controller, thus wanting the message tag to log. If there are any other ideas let me know.Thanks again for the answer and quick response. -Uyt Fuzzy Logic, I may have misunderstood the String tag created for the Alarm Instructions. I will post my results soon. Thanks again n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk SE: How To Dynamically Create Tags folder when Client is connected use VBA HI, from RSView 32, there is one method to create the tag folder: gTagDb.GetFolder(sFolder)but Factorytalk View SE does't have this function, I want VBA automatically create tag folder with Client_ComputerName, I know how to get the client_ComputerName, but lost to how to duplicate HMI tag folder from existing TAGTEMPLATE folder any idea? ### Assistant: Arghh!! This is one of my big problems with SE VBA model - you lose most of the functionality that was present in RSView32. Sorry to say that there is no object model to *write* to the tag database. All you can do is read. Having said that, why do you need to create tags? With LiveData, you don't need them for most things. Just use the direct reference addresses. Or is there some specific purpose to having these be HMI tags? Hi, JonathanKent: the complicated HMI application,the HMI tag folder contains the HMI navigation memory tag where I store the HMI some objects visiblity values, right now everything is fine as long as one client connected, if more than two clients connected, one client click one button to show something, the other client 's HMI also affected if both are in same pages because I use the memory tag for visible/invisible some objects. As I tried before by using RSView32, I try to ask VBA create {ClientComputerName} folder when NEW client is connected, so that I can use the ClientComputerNamefolder to store all related HMI navigation memory tag, by doing this way, client screen will not fight each other. The only ways I can think that can do this would be1. To create all the possible tag structures ahead of time - so a folder called Client1, Client2, etc. with all your structure beneath that. Then on each client you would run a different startup macro to pass Client1, Client2. etc. as a parameter to all subsequent screens.As in #1 above, create folders that match the name of the client computers, then use VBA code in the client's initial display to pass the name of the computer as a parameter. There is an example of this in tech note 32067. Hope that helps. Hi:JonathanKent agreed and we have to work around to make progress. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How many alarms in Panelview Plus How many alarms can created with PanelView Plus if I use Alarm setup ? (512-1024 ???) ### Assistant: Unlimited ....:smileysurprised: Aid 36839 Anyway, lengthy alarm messages consume additional memory...the alarm message file is built into the .mer file, so the larger the .mer file the more internal storage space consumedAlthough limits have been defined as Unlimited, memory consumption and it's effect on runtime performance do need to be taken into consideration during development. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: processor comm problems how do i connect to an slc 5/04 processor which calls for a kt-1 connection in the program? i can see the df-1-1 and df-1-2 drivers but have yet to be able to establish a kt-1 connection. i am using tje ab- uic serial to usb adapter ### Assistant: AB_KT-1 driver is usually used with either 1784-PKTX or 1784-PCMK cards...if you have one of these cards in your PC, then you may use it to go online. With your serial interface (UIC), you need the serial port of the controller to be configured as DH-485 protocol, and a serial cable 1747-CP3....otherwise you will not be able to use RSLogix500 to open your online project. Or you will need a *new* 1784-U2DHP interface to connect from USB port of your PC to the DH+ channel over 5/04. Then, in your RSLogix 500 project, you may force the communication to use the driver you want (instead of kt-1), selecting Comms --> System Comms, and after you have highlighted your connected processor, select Apply to Project, so that it will be the default comm path for it. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView embedded variables on numeric input will not show decimal places, HELP! I am trying to draw setpoints on a paneview plus 600 using rsview Release 4. I embed a variable (tag that refers to N11:X) under the label tab for an number input enable and cannot get it to diplay the decimal places. I got number of digits set to 5 and decimal places set to 2 but when i load app into screen it never displays the decimal place. I tried changing decimal from implied to fixed with 2 decimal places w/ stripped value, didnt work! I tried changing decimal from implied to fixed with 2 decimal places w/ displayed value w/expression (? * 10), didnt work! I am at the end of my rope and cannot figure out why this is not showing me my decimal places for my embedded variable. Please Help! ### Assistant: Well, for starters an N file is an integer file, you can't make an interger into a floating point, so no decimals. You will want to be using a floating point value for decimals places, a F file. Assuming the following: (otherwise please post an example of what you need in your application :smileytongue: ) You have a Numeric Input Enable that write value to N11:xThe Numeric Tab of that object is configured to use Fixed Position, Stripped Value, 2 digits after decimalThe operator enter for example 506; it is displayed in the keypad as 5.06, it will be sent to PLC as 506 as your destination is an Integer.Now you want the label of your object to show 5.06.... then, create an HMI tag read the value from your N11:x and use the Scale field configuring it as 0.01; use this HMI tag in the label of your object. You may also use a Numeric Input Cursor Point instead, and in the connection Tab, in the Indicator Tag field, select your N11:x and add /100...you will get the same result. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Intelligent??? ControlLogix Digital I/O Modules User Manual 1756-UM058C-EN-P (Page 17) described that producer/consumer communications are an intelligent data exchange between modules and other system devices in which each module produces data without having been polled. However, there's no control decisions being made by the communication mechanism. Why Rockwell Automation consider it to be intelligent? ### Assistant: See the following thread.... :smileytongue: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Logix&message.id=1614#M1614 edit: link updated - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activate DTR pin CH1??? Hi, How can i activate DTR pin in channel 1 of an Micrologix 1500 using Ladder Logic???? Thanks in advance, lectularius ### Assistant: Hi, the DTR control bit (S:33/14) and the DTR force bit (S:33/15) use to realize what you need in a SLC cpu CH0, are not available in the Micrologix 1500. So, it seems not possible.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 160 Drive Just curious what is the last date that the 160 drive will be available for sale. I'm trying to convert customer to PowerFlex 4M. Thanks. ### Assistant: Silver Date for these products is 31 dec 2009 The Silver Date is the last date Rockwell Automation will accept orders for new product shipments, terminating its Silver Series status. The product is no longer offered for general sale. See this LINK and also the Search (use 160 as keyword) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, that was the answer I needed. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Edit a .MER file in RSView Studio 4.0 How do i make to edit a .MER file (that i uploaded from panel view plus 1250) in RSView Studio 4.0? ### Assistant: MER files are not an editable file in version 4.0 and earlier. You need to get the project backup from the developer. (.APA file)Only version 5.0 and greater MER files are able to be restored as long as the developer created the MER in that configuration. When a developer creates an MER 5.0 file he has the ability to include the data, password protect it, or never allow conversion. However, try to see Aid 8913 - Recovering a Project from the MER File When the development project files have been lost, some of the project information can be recovered from the MER (Machine Edition Runtime) file itself. However, the following cannot be recovered:Parameter filesAlarm SetupDatalog filesMacro filesUnder some circumstances, the Tag Database cannot be recovered either. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for replying Fuzzy Logic, but i cant see the Aid8913 : This answer is 'locked' or being updated'Locked' answer-You may not have a TechConnect contract or be linked to your contract (see answer 50871).Yes, i have been lost the development project file, and i need to change the aplication that running in panel view plus. Its possible? HELP ME! thanks again Hi, send me a Private message here in the Forum with your e-mail address and I will send you back some infos. - fuzzy logic Hi Marcio, I've just sent you an email.... Hope this will help you...:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: View ME (5) unable to save application information error When trying to create a runtime app I get the following error message: Unable to save application information I've jumped thru several hoops to fix this with no positive results. I uninstalled and then reinstalled the Factorytalk view studio ME softwareI reregistered several files per a knowledgebase document I've repaired the new application via the add remove programs feature of the control panel I'm considering installing 2 patches that the knowledgebase suggests . Looking for any suggestions Thanks ### Assistant: Try disabling your Windows Firewall (if enabled) and also run the Windows Firewall Configuration Utility from Rockwell. You may have to reboot your pc after this. It seems back in CPR7 we had an issue similiar to this and it was related to how Windows delt with the RSView files rather than with RSView ME itself. Fordtt, Thanks for the try. My Windows firewall was disabled. and I had the firewall configeration utillity from Rockwell installed, but just to show you how desperate I'm getting I uninstalled and reinstalled the the utility. Then I rebooted and tried again. Still getting the same error message. Beating a dead horse It seems to be a corruption of the FactoryTalk Security. :smileysurprised: You may try to reinstall FactoryTalk Service Platform (remember that this will default your FactoryTalk Security and thus delete all your accounts inside it). If you have installed FactoryTalk Activation SR1, FactoryTalk Services Platform SR1, RSLinx Enterprise SR1, and Rockwell Windows Firewall Configuration Utility uninstall them first.Then, follow the steps below:Uninstall FactoryTalk Services PlatformDelete C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataRockwellRNAClient and RNAServerRe-install FactoryTalk Services PlatformRe-import applicationHope this helps… - fuzzy logic I've also seen that error when a particular project is badly corrupted. Not common, but still... If you can work ok with other projects within Studio, you probably have a corrupted project. Try creating a NEW project and clicking the IMPORT button in the new project dialog box. Point the import at the existing, corrupted project. It'll pull everything it can out of it, though at the very minimum, you'll have to recreate your shortcut definition(s) in RSLinx Enterprise. JHutch Fuzzy Logic, Currently I have the following programs installed; they are not exactly what you have listed in your post. If you see any problems with me uninstalling them please give me a heads up. FactoryTalk Activation Server 3.02 (CPR 9 SR2)FactoryTalk Services Platform 2.10 (CPR 9)RSLinks Enterprise 5.0 (CPR 9)Rockwell Windows Firewall Configuration Utility 1.00.03 Thanks for the help Beating a dead horse I have tried creating a runtime on another, previously working, project. I have also asked another of our techs to try using the same archive file I’m having issues with. I’m unable to create a runtime using a previously working application and the other tech had no issues creating a runtime file using the same archive I used. Good questions, thank you. Beating a dead horse Maybe something silly, but are you sure you installed RSLinx Enterprise too?I've seen strange errors in the past when RSLinxNG was not installed. Uninstall SR1 or SR2 software and Rockwell Windows firewall config. FIRST, then FactoryTalk Service Platform (CPR9) following the indicated steps. - fuzzy logic Fuzzy Logic Just to be clear, SR1 and SR2 is referring to the Microsoft Patches? Still Beating I apologize I have been not so clear....:smileysad: You have to uninstall first Rockwell Software for which you have installed a SR patch... Considering your list, uninstall first the following: FactoryTalk Activation Server 3.02 (CPR 9 SR2)Rockwell Windows Firewall Configuration Utility 1.00.03 The last software to uninstall should be FactoryTalk Service Platform CPR9 Hope it is clear now....:smileywink: - fuzzy logic There are some temporary folders and a cache folder that needs to be deleted in explorer. I have had this problem after doing a lot of editing. It has been a while since I had to work through it. These folders are contained within the runtime folder. Rockwell can walk you through it in a minute or two. Then reboot and everything is fine again. Sorry for being vague earlier follow these steps: GO TO WINDOWS EXPLORER MY COMPUTER LOCAL DISK TEMP MER.00 IN THIS FOLDER THERE IS A CACHE FOLDER RIGHT CLICK ON THE CACHE FOLDER AND SELECT DELETE THEN REBOOT COMPUTER. THIS WILL CLEAR UP YOUR ISSUE. In the past when I had the same issue, I just gave the imported application a different name. Seems to clear up the confusion other than now your app has a slightly different name. Although, the unistall and reinstall and the removal of the cashe should fix almost anything, but it never seemed to work for me. Good luck Unfortunately, I have not had time to try your fix yet. I'm currently out of the USA installing a machine. I can't take the risk of completely disabling my View application until I complete this job. As soon as it's done I'll give this a try. Thanks Beating a dead horse. I checked and I've got nothing in this location. I searched for Temp / Cashe / and MER.00 and came up with nada. Thank you for trying Beating a dead horse. I also have had this issue with older versions of the software and your suggestion indeed fixed the problem back then. Unfortunately, its not the cure with Ver 5. Beating a dead horse I have had same issue in 5.0, 4.0, 3.2 where the rename corrected an Import failure. Maybe your issue is different. Cache......not cashe.... Have you recently renamed your pc? I am having this issue as well with Version 5. Was there any one thing that worked for you Horse? I'm just starting this process. Yvon I mis-read Fuzzy's instructions... great start eh... what I did was Uninstall FactoryTalk Services PlatformDelete C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataRockwellRNAClient and RNAServerRe-install FactoryTalk Services PlatformRe-import applicationI re-installed it and re-imported my applications and now it seems fine. Yvon Yvon, Just wanted to say thank you for a simple and effective solution. I was stuck in Canada for quite some time before heading to Panama for a project that didn't require RSView. When I finally saw your post I gave it a try and it worked on the first attempt. Beating life into a dead horse. Wow, nice to see you've solved it ! Just a question...where is the differance between my post and Yvon post ? Seems to be the same solution I've proposed earlier.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic None Fuzzy, I completly misread it and only did 1/5th of what you suggested and I got lucky imo. Thanks Fuzzy, without your contribution here I'd be toast. Yvon Fuzzy, I never really had the opportunity to try your fix. When I finally had time to address this issue I just tried the suggested fix from the latest post. No harm or snub was intended! Beating a dead horse Can you go back and click the solution button on Fuzzy's thread.... that was the fix to the problem. Yvon Never mind, Beating.... important things is that you've solved the issue... this is the why we are all here to use the Forum ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Active Display Limitations I'm new to this layer of RSView. What limitation in my RSView32 Runtime application do I need to be aware? The system I have now is view two ways. 1. as a web page. This to me is unpractical since it is but a snap shot in time and you must know what Display you wish to View from a list. Along with that I can view date on a screen that in the original Runtime view uses Parameter Files. 2. from an Active Display Client. All is well here accept my VBA user forms will not work. In my project I'm wishing to display production number from different part of our plant. I'm focusing now on one machine and with that I have 7 days of production with 3 shifts each day. I created 21 Parameter files that I call up to display on just one screen using a VBA user form and a clever Even triggered Macro to pick this display using the value of a sting tag to pick the Parameter file. Now That I found VBA can't be used I may have to use a series of pages or a large page of button to chose the Parameter file to use for displaying my data. Update:I may have found my answer here: RADS - Application design considerations.It said No VBA. it is run only at the server not the Client ### Assistant: You found one of the big limitations - no client-side VBA in RAD. All the major differences between plain RSView32 and RAD clients are documented in the Design Considerations note you referenced. FYI, I have found the Security Button and Username Label ActiveX controls very useful in RAD applications. These can be used trigger a command on a client from the server. Check out AID 35762 for further information. Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView Data output overlayed on live video I'm trying to create an output in using RSView32 that will overlay a few parameters/tags onto an existing live video feed. The live video feed is supplied by a cramera. Is there a way to import the video, then display the tags in the cornors of the feed, then the display everything? Thanks, Kalvin ### Assistant: Interesting question. There is nothing on the Rockwell side to do this. Do you already have a vendor selected for your camera? If you ask them if you can overlay variable data on a live image, they may be able to help you. Over the years, the folks at Cognex have been pretty sharp - you might ask them about it if you plan on using their cameras. http://www.cognex.com/ Hope this helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How do you search for a plc tag in View Studio? Hello, I'm working with someone else's existing plc and hmi code. How do I search the HMI in Factory View Studio to find if and where a plc tag is used? As there doesn't seem to be a search tool at least that I could find. Thanks, Wulfgar ### Assistant: If you are using FactoryTalk View Studio v5, then you may use the Project Documenter, a stand alone utility that provides detailed information on HMI projects in Factory Talk View SE applications (both Network and Local) and Factory Talk View ME applications.The utility allows a user to view, export and print the content of the HMI project components including the tag cross reference information associated with each component as well as the VBA code associated with the graphic displays. See Aid 46928 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the quick response fuzzy That looks like a lot of work just to find where a tag is used. What's wrong with Rockwell that they cannot just include a simple search or cross reference in Studio? I just need a ctrl+F with an option to search current screen or all screens. Agree.... :smileysad: There is another way to find where a tag is used with the Object Explorer.This procedure only works in a single display, so you need to open each of them to search...:smileysad:To open the Object Explorer, open a graphic and go to the View menu-> Object Explorer. From here, click the Highlighting On check box and then the Settings button. In the dialog that appears next, check the By Tag checkbox and select the tag you are looking for in the drop-down list box. This will highlight any object that references this tag. For easy editing, you can right-click on the object in the Object Explorer instead of trying to find it in the graphic, allowing you to access the properties of that object. If the By Tag checkbox is greyed out, this graphic may not have any tags associated with it. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I downloaded the Project Documenter that all went well. When I tried to run it it opened to select an application, but none were there, and there is no browse button? My projects are where they should be. C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRSView EnterpriseSEHMI Projects. There are projects there, and I have Version 5.0 n"}
{"text": "### Human: Best Practice sychronizing RSView32 projects I have a customers with two computers, one running RSView32 Works and the other running RSView32 Runtime. The intent of the customer is to have the runtime computer as a backup to the works computer. They are both pulling data from the same PLC's independently of each other. Is there a better way of keeping the projects on both computers synchronized when changes are made to screens, datalogs, etc. other than making a copy of works project and copying it to the runtime? The projects have been running for several years and have grown very large due to the requirement by the state to retain historical data. It seems redundant to copy over all the datalog files but I can't figure out a good way to seperate the change files. ### Assistant: I have always tried to store the data logs outside of the application when I know they will get large. They can still be on the host PC just into a dedicated folder. We have a few of these Apps in our plant as well and sometimes it a real hassle to move the store location if other 3rd party programs are using the data base as well. We don't do a lot of historical data collecting here so most of our apps purge date greater then a month old. n"}
{"text": "### Human: rsview studio rev 4 problem Problem: Cannot create a .mer file. I get the error, unable to save application followed by Could not create FactoryTalk Directory for CPR version 7.0 for this application. I have tried every solution that has been posted on the knowledge base but nothing seems to help. I was running rev 4 and had to unistall to bump up to rev 5. Now, I unistalled rev 5 and want to go back to rev 4 but can't get it to work. One thing I noticed, in the system folder there is a folder that is called action groups with a ? mark in front of it. When I click on the folder Unable to view properties of actions list action groups because the required product is not installed pops up. I've asked other tech's that I work with and nobody else has this action groups folder being displayed in the system folder. Also, when rsview studio rev4 & 5 were working properly, I was running windows XP service pack 2. Now i'm running service pack 3. Maybe this could be the problem? PLEASE HELP!!!! ### Assistant: dlarsen, not sure which is the actual situation on your pc after these install/reinstall... :smileysad: For sure XP service pack 3 IS NOT CURRENTLY SUPPORTED by RSView/FactoryTalkView Studio... and this may cause obviously some unpredictable issues... Anyway, two notes... Normally you don't need to revert back to version 4 to create a .mer file for version 4 as per the fact this is a supported feature of version 5. Uninstalling 5.0 FactoryTalk Studio only and trying to install 4.0 RSView Studio ME will not work and can cause several problems. 5.0 FactoryTalk Studio ME give you the ability to build MER for terminals and station that are at the following releases: 5.0, 4.0, 3.2, 3.1, 3.0. so that you may download to those version of the terminal/Station without being required to upgrade the terminal. Take a look (unless already done) to this procedure to uninstall your software... Aid 54692 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy, time to do some cleaning up of the mess I made!!! ha,ha.... dlarsen, we all made some mess using computers... I think PC are created to complicate all ... :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic where i can found review studio ME 4.0 program? Contact a Rockwell Automation representative for your Region / Country... try to search from HERE Actual version of View ME is 5.0 anyway... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView 4 Number Dislay expression question. I am trying to drawing my pump's running hours on the screen. I am using a numeric display and i am using the expression ({P1_THOU_HOURS} * 1000) + ({P1_HOURS}/10) in my value connection. I have the numeric display displaying ten digits and one decimal place. I load into my screen and i get a value of 0.0 when my p1_hours tag is clearly not zero (viewing online via rslogix500). Both tags are N integers. What am i missing? p1_hours integer values is between 0 and 9999p1_thou_hours integer values is between 0 and 32767 ### Assistant: It sounds as though your tag data is not making it through. Did you browse for the tag from within RSStudio? If the tag is correct then perhaps a misplaced parenthesis. (({P1_THOU_HOURS} * 1000) + ({P1_HOURS}/10)). Adding the outside parenthesis should allow it to calculate correctly. One thing to try to make sure the data is coming over, just set the source to P1_hours and see if it matches what's in your controller. If it does, then you have an expression problem. If it doesn't, then you have a link problem. Agree with fordtt about possible link problem.... Anyway, I've tested it using View ME v5 and it seems to do what you want... try to take a look to the attached screenshot... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Rapid Active Display - Using TrendxWrapper Hi I have an application which was being used on a single seat RSView32 station. I built it at the time using trendxwrapper to do things like show different groups of trends on the same trendx screen by clicking on different buttons and invoking the loading of different templates. I now need to move those same screens and integrate them into a larger, rsview32/rapid active display/web client setup. My question: is there an elegant way of having templates load over rapid active display or is the only way to do this to have the network path to the template be exactly the same for both the server and the client? Cheers ### Assistant: To the best of my knowledge, the only way to get RAD clients with TrendXWrapper & templates to work is to have a common mapped drive. That's pretty elegant already - it gives you a common location for all the templates. So you would copy the graphics and templates to the new project directory and add these components to that project by using Add Existing Component. Is that what you are trying to accomplish? BTW, RAD stands for RSView32 Active Display, not Rapid Active Display. It's somewhat confusing since there is also a similar acronym in the programming world, which stands for Rapid Application Development. I was hoping there would be a way which didn't involve having a common directory, as I wanted to have users with different access permissions be able to use the template even if they don't have access to the network location where the templates are stored... kind of like a self downloading system similar to how trendx self installs when you first use it. Thanks anyway We have a similar situation and what I did was install TrendX and the TrendX Wrapper on the clients after installing the RAD client. Then I copied the template files to the same location on the clients and everything seems to work well. If you change templates a lot it can be a challenge keeping them synchronized, but it does not require a shared drive. Yes, that will definitely work as long as you are willing to take the time to manually synchronize. I should have mentioned that before. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlNet Configuration Words I have a redundant controlnet application multipul nodes 1794 flex to be exact. each node has a configuration word like 1:C.Config and O:C.Config under these words there is 16 bits.1:C.Config.11:C.Config.2and so on but it don't tell me what each bit represents, like Com flt, Connection flt and I can't find any information on this. What I need to do is write faults for when any device faults on my controlnet network. And was thinking the config word bits would tell me sonething but they are not labeled. as such. Any information would be of great help.Thanks ### Assistant: The Config bit cannot be used for this functionality, they just represent the settings you've done in the Configuration tab of your remote modules. Usually you may find informations about these bits in the Installations Manual of every I/O modules. To check the status of the connection and the module faults, you have to use GSV instructions, or when digital modules are Rack Optimized, the SlotStatusBits. The following technotes will give you some informations: Aid 48978 - Aid 17846 - Aid 59336 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Bruce, I've sent you a Private Message... see the upper right zone of the Home Page of the Forum.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: almost out of memory on 1756-L61S HelloI have a fairly new machine which is almost out of memory. (see attachment)The question is, should i upgrade to a processor with more memory?What is the worst case scenario when there is no more memory?Will i get unexpected operations, communicationloss or...? Regards Lasse ### Assistant: Here some indications found around in manuals.... Keep your used memory within the green area. Once the used memory is in the yellow, the controller may not have enough memory for runtime communication. Take also a look to the following thread, there are also other users experiences. - fuzzy logic hey fuzzy logicThanks for the quick reply.Keep up the good work!! Your Welcome ! And thank for your positive feedback.... and Kudos! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: proccessor revision and series i have 2 slc 5/04 processors one is ser. c rev 7 and the other is ser.b rev 3 what is the diff. are they interchangeable? ### Assistant: In order to understand what is changed in the hardware and firmware releases, take a look to the Reference Manual, App. A. Obviously, if you have used features in series C that was not yet available in series B, they are not directly interchangeable. :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Remember also that virtually all* SLC-5/04 controllers can be upgraded to the modern OS401 Series C FRN 11 firmware using a firmware flash plug. The part number is 1747-OS401, about $175. *I say virtually all because I think some Series A OS400 units from 1993 or so might not be able to use the firmware upgrade. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Creating modules using VBA block Hi, I am trying to create an arena logic (which has three modules) using a VBA block. But I am getting an error saying that m.Modules.Create(..) is failed. the exact error is Run-time error '-2147467259 (80004005)': Method 'Create' of object 'IModules' failed. however, when I run the vba code only (using the execute button on vba editor) it perfectly create the three modules. So I think the problem is with the VBA blocks firing event. But I need a VBA block to trigger the creation process as an attribute involved in the creation process is defined after the simulation is started. Has anyone encountered this problem and has successfully solved it? Does anyone have any alternative way of tackling this problem? Thanks a bunch... ### Assistant: Without knowing much about your code, I'd wonder first if this is a timing issue. Maybe you are trying to make a call to something that is not fully initialized? If you are running the VBA code in the Display_AnimationStart event, try putting it in the code in the Release event of a button object - if that works, a timing issue is likely. If not, we have to look elsewhere. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SE to Excel via DDE - String Problem Hi, I am trying to enter into a String tag within SE and get the String to appear in Excel via DDE but I only get the 1st Character of the String showing in Excel - I have been told that this is a problem with all DDE servers - but I am still not convinced. Analog values go to and from excel fine. String values go from Excel to SE fine, but not from SE to Excel. The tag within SE is Type: String - Length:82 - Type: Device - Address: DDE:excel|[SE_DDE_Client.xls]Sheet1!r1c1 Cell within Excel is Text format. Thanks, Richard Beardmore ### Assistant: I'll take a stab at this, but DDE in SE is bad news - very unreliable. I thought I heard someone say it wasn't supported, but I can't remember any details on that. Might try adding SCn to the address where n is the length of the string, something like this: DDE:excel|[SE_DDE_Client.xls]Sheet1!r1c1,SC50 If that doesn't work, you could also use VBA to write to the cell in the spreadsheet. See tech note 43371 for an example of how to do this. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to view all my HMI tags Hi, I'm using FactoryTalk SE and I was curious as to see which tags I am currently using in all of my screens. I've looked at it using PD, but it just shows me the parameters ( ### Assistant: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46928 #1 and #2 are placeholders and are found in your HMI Tags The Project Documentor is a great resource for looking at your entire project at a glance. For tag place holders like #1 and #2, you want to look in the parameter files. These will define what #1 and #2 really are. Example: You have a parameter file called P1. It contains the following:#1 = Tag1#2 = Tag2 When you display the graphic using the command DISPLAY SCREENNAME /PP1, SE swaps out #1 and #2 and replaces them with Tag1 and Tag2. Does that help? I understand what #1 and #2 are, but I want to know what all the tags I'm using are. I have close to 900 screens referencing back to about 30 PLC's. You can see why this seemingly easy question gets tougher due to the huge scale. And we don't use parameter files, they just get passed on with /T, not /P :( n"}
{"text": "### Human: Why does Rockwell need to verify my serial number to download a SAFETY advisory firmware update? I just received Product Safety Advisory 2009-07-001 in my email today. The web link included with it basically says output modules may not go to their pre-defined idle state under certain conditions. That's a safety issue all right (says so right in the advisory). So why must I have my software qualified in order to download the firmware update? It seems to me like I have to prove my license, YET AGAIN, to be able to use Rockwell software. It's a safety advisory. Does Rockwell really want to play license games like that? ### Assistant: i totally agree with you, sometimes rockwell looks like pushing to much on customer for money. At some point you have to give service for your customer without asking for money.Just get what the customer needs and it will buy more stuff more Rockwell in the futur, where some profit will come out. You don't really have to prove your licence but you need a software support contract ( expensive also) to reach the download page and remain safe. Rockwell is just going on the wrong way, and having few discussion with different customer around the country here and all agree that we are losing the support and help from Rockwell without paying big dollars. Sometime they gonna pay for that because other manufacturer in automation are coming really good in service and support without extra charge like rockwell will do. have a good day !!!! From a practical standpoint, there's no way for RA to determine if you have a v17 system that needs to be updated, or if you just have older systems that you want a v17 upgrade for without paying for a support contract. I disagree with you, flames, that free support just drives greater future sales. I've been in a great many situations where free support really just drove the request for free products, especially software products. I've seen the effect of free support, especially phone support. It drives infinite demand, and causes the amount of effort users are willing to put forth themselves to decline sharply. We've been running PLC support phone banks for decades, and we're very aware of how support contracts and even toll-free phone lines affect the substance of the calls that come in. In my personal opinion, Tech Connect contracts should be much less expensive, but should be universally required. If you have a new v17 system and no support contract, you should call your local RA office and talk to them. One has to remember that when you purchase the software it's pretty much a blank slate. You have the power to be as creative as you want with controlling equipment and when you pay for support you agree with Rockwell's statement of liability. Free support may open them up for a liability for equipment of which they have no control over. I agree with Ken in that free support opens up a whole new world in terms of the support problems you get as well. I would like to see, however, a temporary 6-month software support that comes with the purchase of software. This initial support allows companies who buy the software actually know what kind of support they will need. Since we are an integrator, Rockwell has worked with our clients who have never purchased software before to give them a 1-year software support at no charge. A BIG step for RA. Also when you pay for support you can demand a higher standard of technical expertise on the other end as well...and we've all been in THAT situation too. Has anyone tried to install the package? I keep getting an error stating VBSBACKUPMSIKITS.VBS cannot be found. There is only two files in the .zip file; Contents.txt and ControlFlash.msi. Anyone having trouble? Nevermind..... I forgot about using the Microsoft MSI clean-up utility. If anyone has this issue, refer to ID 45249.... Ken, I'm confused about your practical standpoint. The safety advisory says V17.01 firmware used with various 1756, 1768, 1769, 1789 processors can cause IO to not go to their expected state. #1 confusion: For me to use V17.01 firmware, don't I need to be in V17 of RSLogix5000? For me to be using that software, I have to have an up-to-date license, right? Or is it possible to use, say, V15 software with V17.01 firmware in the PLC? #2 confusion: This is a SAFETY advisory (PSA 2009-07-001, knowledgebase answer ID 62845). I submit in such a case it should not be necessary to prove your valid license. Version 17 is relatively new, so the great majority of users who have it got it under their Tech Connect support contract. Those users can get the update in exactly the same way they got the first release of v17. Users who bought v17 as their very first Rockwell Automation product get a 1 year support contract at no charge. Hopefully they use the services and renew their contract. They are eligible for the update over the web or via shipped DVD. Users who bought v17 as a brand new license but don't have a support contract (and you're always offered one) are the only ones who won't be eligible to download the software from the website. And those refuseniks are the ones who ought to be talking to their Rockwell Automation office, because they are missing out on all the benefits of the Tech Connect contract. If RA had a way to identify users in the third category via the website, they would probably do it. I personally would like the opportunity to talk to anyone who is buying new Logix but refusing to buy or renew a support contract, so I can try to learn their perspective on the value of those services. I personally drove about a hundred miles each way the other day to hand a software update CD to a customer who needed a new version of RSLogix 500 to access a new MicroLogix he'd bought. I ended up spending the whole afternoon discussing his application, showing him how to configure DDE links to Excel, and demonstrating the Modbus drivers in the new PanelView Component product. When I mentioned that he could have gotten this update over the web with an eConnect contract, he looked me in the eye and said I don't waste my money on support. I can certainly understand that a SAFETY advisory could be treated like a recall on a car...if it's safety related then Rockwell should foot the bill to make sure everyone is safe. However, most safety bulletins RA sends out occurs under some specific circumstances and cautions us to watch out for these scenarios. We've used v17 for about 6 months now with none of these problems occurring. That's not to say they can't but now we know what to watch for and avoid if possible. I also know of some other software companies that won't even send you a notice of anything unless you are a support-paying customer. Having to have a valid support contract isn't new either. Back when everyone was beginning to use the 6200 dos-based software....if we didn't have the support contract...we didn't get updates, safety or not. To clear up something Ken mentioned... Whenever you buy a new product family for the first time (ie, you buy a new FactoryTalk Studio SE package), you are eligible for a 1 year free support contract for that product family. It isn't automatic, simply because we don't have an easy mechanism to identify those things, but the distributor you purchase from SHOULD be able to figure it out easily and SHOULD be offering it to you. If she does not, ASK for it! Put simply, we believe our support is second to none and that if you get a taste for how useful it is and how much it will reduce your Total Cost of Ownership ... well, we think most of our customers will renew and even expand their support contract at the end of the year. To refer back to Ken's anecdote, his customer may not waste his money on support, but he paid Ken a LOT of money to hand deliver that CD and then spend the afternoon talking. For most customers, that one visit was many times more than the cost of a whole year's support and you can bend an engineer's ear as much as you want with that one contract. JHutch You've gotten off track from my original question guys. The point is, Rockwell issues a safety notice, but requires that I prove I have a valid license in order to get it. I'm not debating the merits of a support subscription (not now, at least). I'm pointing out that a safety concern is being placed second to that of license validation. Without stirring this up too much, I wanted to share a point of clarification that I learned today. The idle-mode anomaly described in the Product Safety Advisory that TJ notes is entirely part of the controller firmware. It is not affected by the network module firmware, by the I/O module firmware, or by RSLogix 5000 software. The only thing that is different in the download of RSLogix 5000 17.01.02 is the bundled controller firmware. It does still beg TJ's question, but it helps that you don't have to download the whole RSLogix 5000 suite, just the controller firmware for your controllers. I knew the PSA talked of a firmware update. Small download. Nothing to do with upgrading the programming suite. Firmware version must match software major version, right? And to use the programming suite, I have to have a valid license, with FactoryTalk Activation Tool right there to be sure it is valid. The original question is why do I need to verify my serial number for the safety firmware update? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 5000 analog input wire connecting our product mode is 2098-IPD-030, we have to input a low voltage(0~10Vdc) signal to ultra 5000, and we connect HI input to analog input 1(pin 9) of ultra 5000, and LO input connect to shield termination(pin 14) of ultra 5000. is it correct?if not, how shall we wiring? ### Assistant: Page 2-5 of manual below shows the pinout of connector CN1B where the analog I/O are wired to. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/2098-in001_-en-p.pdf Analog inputs are pins 9 and 10 and use either pins 8/11 for the reference. Pin 14 is only for shield termination. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: msg instruction Hi,I had a slc 503 on a DH-485 and would like to send a message from it to a slc 505 on another branch of our networked plc's which is on an Ethernet subnetwork. They are pretty close to each other so I wonder if a peer to peer connection is best suited or is there is another way since they both can be seen from RSlinx. I had little experience using MSG so a detailed explanation will be highly appreciated. Thanks. ### Assistant: I've done this before using a peer-to-peer message. You use a message (write) in one processor and a message (read) in the other. When you insert the message instruction you haev to enter that it is: Type:Peer-to-peer, Read/Write, Target Device, Local/Remote, assign a control block address and length. Then you go to the setup screen and enter the data table address for both the device you are on and the target device, then enter the taget Local Node address. The instruction help for the MSG instruction in RsLogix is pretty good. Good Luck Talking about the hardware possible solution first..... :smileywink: 1. connect a 1761-NET-ENI to the serial port of your SLC-5/03 so that you may reach the Ethernet network and do message between the two cpus.2. connect the two serial ports of the cpus together with a 1747-CP3 serial cable using DF1 to exchange data through message instruction (you may also realize a custom cable, but remember max 15 mt. as per RS-232 connection standard) There are also other possibilities and other users could also add what they've used in their experiences, i.e. using DH-485 protocol with AIC / AIC+ adapters, but I think the two above could be easier. To understand how to use the MSG instruction, please take a look to the Reference Manual, chapter 12; also page 13-49 for DF1 and Chapter 15 for MSG examples. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView+ and remote OPC Hi,I would like to use a PV+ with a remote OPC server. I can add the OPC server in FT View and if I run it on an XPsystem it works fine but on a PV+ I get no connection. I have talked with Rockwell support and they say that onlyRSlinx and Kepware are supported on the PV+. Kepware has a OPC DA CLIENT driver but it looks like this alsois not supported on the PV+. Has anybody successfull connected with a PV+ to an OPC remote server? Is theresomething I have to add to the device? Best regards Stephan ### Assistant: Stephan, Panelview Plus cannot be connected to a remote OPC server :smileysad: Panelview Plus can have a Kepserver Enterprise OPC server installed; it doesn't come by default in the PVP firmware, you have to do a firmware upgrade of your Panelview Plus, including the Serial or Ethernet driver you need to use.KEPServer Enterprise provides OPC server connectivity with over 40 different PLCs and devices. It is sold and supported by Rockwell Automation. KEPServer Enterprise does not require an activation key for use with FactoryTalk View Machine Edition.KEPServer Enterprise is activated by the FactoryTalk View Studio application development or by the FactoryTalk View ME Station on PanelView Plus, PanelView Plus CE or Workstation computer at runtime. - fuzzy logic Tech Support is right; only the onboard OPC and FactoryTalk servers are supported by FTView ME on the PanelView Plus platform. It's essentially a Windows CE issue, because of its poor integration into secure Windows networks. The early versions of RSView ME on PV+ would actually connect to a remote OPC server... exactly once. You had to reboot them to get a broken connection re-established. Developers removed that connectivity function to prevent attempts to get that unreliable connection going. You can run a Remote OPC Server to FTView ME on an XP box like the VersaView 200R. That's what I've seen the most in applications that had to use a remote OPC server. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-ENBT/A Intermittantly stops communicating. 1756-ENBT/A Ethernet/IP module Intermittantly stops communicating without any failure indication and we have to reseat the module to get it to communicate again. ### Assistant: What the component that communicating whit 1756 ENBT? Thank you for replying. RSlinx, Top Server, and all Message Instructions stop communicating. It seems to happen when we have a lot of traffic on our ¼ T line. From that description I don't have anything specific to say. Not enough detail yet to pin point.That being said, The general:Make sure the firmware is up to the latest the firmware in your controller supports.Make sure you have not exceeded the maximum connections for the ENBT (64) The more specific. Since this is RSLinx as an OPC server, OPC does not initiate reconnect. So if the client drops off the server does not know and vice versa. And, since it happens when there is a lot of traffic on the network, this could be the case. There is a little diagnostics utility to watch packets in RSLinx and see if bad data or a drop of data is occuring. Do some repeative pings too to see if there is packet loss on the network during these times. If so, it will be a network archetecture/bandwidth issue not an issue with the ENBT. Thank you, I do believe it is a bandwidth problem that stops communications, sometimes it takes 300 ms while pinging. We need a faster network the higher ups don’t want to pay for it. Once the 1756-L55M24 ControlLogix Processor Stops communicating we have to re-rack the Ethernet/IP module. This happens Intermittently to all 3 of our ControlLogix Processors I will try updating the firmware first, and than fight for a faster network. Anyone know why the Processor doesn’t start re-communicating without re-racking the 1756-ENBT Ethernet/IP module. Use the 'Logix5000 Task Monitor' to check all communication from a plc. Among other things, it includes the number of connections and the CPU usage from the ethernet cards. Instead of guessing, you get 'hard' numbers. Than you can take actions, ie increase polling time from HMI...I believe this is the latest version. successCeeYa Check Utility in knowbase doc 41204 to see if your module is inside the manufaturing date for ATMEL chip recall and if the required modules are indeed on your system. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus 600 RTC sync to Micrologix 1100 RTC? I have a panelview plus 600 talking to a micrologix 1100. I usually use my touch screens (non AB) as my time masters and write it's RTC values to the PLC. I was trying to do the same thing with the PV+ 600 and had my RTC.0/HR and RTC.0/MIN listed in the hour/minute global connections respectively. PV+ complained that it cannot write value of   to RTC.0/HR. The same error appears for the minute as well. Why is this? After i get this staightened up, i want to be able to increment the time on panel (hour or minute) up or down. I currently have numeric input enables for hr and minute but the embedded variable for the rtc.o/hr or min just shows up as ?. Please Help! ### Assistant: The RTC (Real Time Clock) data are not readily accessible via RSLinx Enterprise. :smileysad: You have to *point* your Global Connection to an integer file in the PLC, then use a CPW instruction in Micrologix 1100 to copy each part of the time and date from the integer file to the RTC file. For example: N10:0 could be copied to RTC:0.MIN etc... See the attached screenshot.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet communication Hi, is there a web site or stuff, maybe someone can help me about improving communication on a ethernet network with Panelview Plus (2) around 15 flex I/O loaded to max. (means 15 rack of 7 I/O). My ethernet card 1756-ENBT/A rev 1.1, is almost loaded at 92 % of capacity. I just afraid to get network slow and bad communication. ### Assistant: Flames, did you already use the Ethernet/IP Capacity Tool ? The tool will give you a quick idea on what you may expect from your Ethernet/IP in terms of usage, just inserting the devices and the RPI you need from them. You will get the number of CIP and TCP/IP connections used, and the PPS from your Ethernet card, and the remaining resources. Which kind of modules are in the Flex I/O racks ? Are there Analog or Special cards ? How many in total ? Every module of this kind will consume a connection from the -ENBTAre there digital I/O modules in the remote racks? Did you configure the Remote Adapters to use a Rack Optimized connection for them ?Which is the RPI you've configured for your Flex I/O ? Using the tool, you may note the big differance of used resources choosing either 20 ms or 5 ms...Which kind of switches are in the network ? Do you have just unmanaged or also managed (..hope the last :smileysurprised: ) ? If you have at least one managed (usually the one where is connected the processor), did you configure it to use the IGMP Snooping ? This is very important to manage the Multicast messages on the network. Take also a look to the Ethernet/IP User Manual, it is an important source of informations about all the above. Consider also the possibility to upgrade the firmware of your Ethernet/IP module, it seems to me quite old...:smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi, you might laught but i'm a little confused when you talked about switch managed and unmanaged ??? I'm still using Unmanaged switch, does it really change something on the quality of communication on the network. Sorry i'm still way of trainning since few years !!! not good !! thx AB equipment is multicast... it wants to send to everything on the enet network... unmanaged switch is like a wide open hub...everything goes everywhere... a managed switch only allows traffic from specific ports to specific ports .. managed switches come with software to configure them. Hi Flames, take a look to the following technotes, those will clarify your doubts....:smileyhappy: Aid 24380 - Aid 22044 - Aid 26270 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Help with Remote Pumping Station Data Acquisition & Monitoring Config. Hi, A brief background info, I’m currently working on a wastewater project where there is a main SCADA monitoring building and 6 remote pumping stations. Each remote pumping station has 2 pumps and currently has a Microsystems ScadaPack (PLC) and a Microsystems 5902 Modem connected to a leased phone line that communicates the ScadaPack info back to the monitoring station. At the monitoring stations they are using GE iFix for the SCADA package. What our client wants to do now is upgrade the Scadapack to an AB CompactLogix (L32E) but still retain the use of the Microsystems 5902 Modem. To have the modem communicate to the CompactLogix they decided to use a Prosoft MVI69-MCM modbus module which will interface the CompactLogix with the 5902 modem. The problem is this is the first time they are setting this configuration up and they’ve never tested this before. Someone told them that it “should” work. I’ve never seen this setup myself so I’m uncomfortable with this config. myself. In discussing with the client, they are open to other configurations and getting rid of the 5902 modem altogether. They are also in discussions with the local phone company about upgrading the phone lines. I’m assuming the upgrade is to DSL lines, but I’ll have to confirm this. See diagram 2. So my questions is, has anyone seen the Prosoft configuration before and knows how to set it up to communicate with the CompactLogix and send data over the leased line to the IFix SCADA system? If not, is there another setup you guys can suggest that will work for remote site monitoring and data acquisition? The only condition is using the CompactLogix. I’ve researched on Google and noticed a lot of wireless applications for this sort of thing. That option might be a last resort but I’d like to see other options before we suggest this one. I’ve been told that if the line is upgraded to a DSL line, we can get a module that can connect to a DSL modem and have a VPN to the SCADA system. Is that possible? Also, there is a GE Quickpanel at the remote sites that needs to be connected as well. Thanks. ### Assistant: Since you mentioned a CompactLogix I'm not sure why you'd use a Prosoft module since the serial port on the CompactLogix can be configured for Modbus anyway. You don't mention how far these pumping stations are from the control room or if they're line of sight. Wireless works well and we used wireless to 25 miles in Iraq....but it has to be line of sight. If you do have line of sight, then a wireless bridge using ethernet is a great option. I'm not familiar with the Microsystems modem but I know the CompactLogix can communicate over a modem using DF1 and the GE iFix has stock drivers to communicate to AB processors. If DSL is available then using the VPN option is your best bet. Use of the Prosoft MV169 module is basically to provide a 2nd port for communications, leaving the PLC port open for programming. The systems I have used these on were typical phone lines, the PLC was programmed to dial out every 5 minutes then hang up until the next dial-out. This is our main business. We usually wind up going with a radio system, either licensed VHF or UHF or unlicensed 900MHz. The customer usually gets past the initial extra setup cost when they find out there will be no recurring cost. We've had great service out of Esteem, Microhard, and Prosoft Radios...all of which can handle DF1 or Ethernet depending on model. We are currently looking at Viper IP radios and they look pretty promising, too. You can also use the much faster response and more accurate trends (if you have any) to sell the customer as well. We've got a lot of systems we've setup that way and so far a lot of happy customers. If you wind up going DSL, make sure to get DSL modems with BridgePass-Through capability and a static IP addresses at each location. The additional cost is not that much and it makes the routing and messaging much easier and more reliable in my humble opinion. tranh2, Maybe I can help with the question with Diagram 2: does this even work? I have a fair amount of experience with the MVI56-MCM and the ModBus ProLinx Gateway. The former uses Input and Output assemblies over the backplane, and the latter uses MSGs on EtherNet/IP, but they both basically do the same thing (as do all the ProSoft/ProLinx InRax and Gateway products for various protocols). 1. The module has a data table which is just an array of numbered 16-bit registers. Think ModBus or PLC-2. 2. A section of the table is reserved for configuration (described in more detail below). 3. The rest of the table is available for your data being transferred. You basically need to take a piece of paper (or spreadsheet program) and decide what data items go from where, to where, and how they are grouped. If you've ever laid out a PLC-2 data table, you will do fine at this. 4. The configuration for the ModBus side consists of three parts: * Port configuration: baud rates, parity, etc., etc. * A list of messages to send (originate outgoing) (more on this below) * A list of messages to respond to (incoming) (more on this below) 5. You should download the sample software (or AOI for V16/V17) from ProSoft and look it over. It includes code to let you read from or write to any place in the data table, and has reasonable defaults for locations for configuration, read data and write data, and a default configuration. I've pretty much been able to use the default data layout in my apps. (There's more configuration for the EtherNet/IP versions, to set the IP address, netmask, timeout, all that usual stuff.) The list of messages to send (outgoing) is basically a table of message instructionl configurations, executed in sequence, that list the node number, message type (read or write, type of data), address of the data being read from or written to in the ModBus device, and data table location in the ProSoft module to receive or supply the data. There's also a timeout value. (The module maintains node status and message status that you can read, so you can alarm or act if comms fails.) I've not used the responder setup to configure for incoming messages, so I'm less familiar. But the idea is the same: you configure what data areas in the module will be read from or written to when an incoming ModBus read or write message is received and replied to. I suspect your SCADA system will be doing lots of ModBus reads of data from the module, and some writes of individual command bits or setting words, so you'll need to set up a big area of status data (to SCADA), and a smaller area of incomming command/setting data (from SCADA). If you keep a good spreadsheet of the data layout so you know what's where, you'll have no problems. The only thing that may throw you is the x0001 offset. When you want to read from ModBus address 40002, the message will contain a 1 (for the address), not a 2 or 40002 -- the address is offset from 40001, not 40000. Just be aware of the xxx+1 offset when you do the config/layout and you'll be fine. Since all data get written to (or polled into) the data table from the source device, then read from (or messaged out to) the table to the destination device, the communication is not direct, and you'll have some time lag, asynchronous scan issues, that sort of stuff. Not usually a problem but you need to be aware of the time issue. One more note: you'll have the backplane port and multiple ModBus ports. Since you can set up the config to poll read/write any data location to/from any node, and respond any data location for read/write messages from any node, you could set up a forwarding point for data from one ModBus device to another, not having to go through the CompactLogix. So in your diagram 2, put the ProSoft/ProLinx device at the center of a star config with the CompactLogix and all your ModBus devices at the points. Now any device in the star can exchange data with any other device through the data table. Just in case you have need for ModBus-to-ModBus paths. I've worked with a petroleum pipeline company that has done numerous sites. They use the ProSoft / ProLinx modules for things like talking to multiple GE MultiLin motor protectors as well as some SCADA comms. No issues. So the short answer to your question does this work? is yes. Takes a little design work and clerical work to document who is send and who is responding to all the messages and get the config right, and once you've done one it's easy and you're an expert. Like anything else in life, right? But certainly look at the other solutions folks have mentioned. This same pipeline company has sites in other regions with satellite intranet comms... And since waste flows downhill, I suspect your sites are all at local minima as far as altitude goes, spread over many square mile of metro region, so line-of-sight wireless might not be the best unless you can lease some node locations on towers between sites...... I'm just guessing. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: EM Brake option for the PF40 Greetings, I have a customer looking to have a brake motor (c/w Electro-Mechanical brake (EM brake)). The digital inputs on the drive have an option for the EM brake release, however that parameter option is not available on my demo. The firmware on my drive is at version 2 levels. In what firmware did that option become available? Can I flash the firmware up on the drive? I haven't been able to find a way to do this. Thank you,Chris ### Assistant: Hi Chris, unfortunately PowerFlex 4/40/40P/400 drives are not field flashable by enduser.Please contact Rockwell Automation Technical Support Centre for further information. Anyway the release of the firmware where this option in the Digital Input was added is 3.02...actually the shipping firmware on those drives is 6.01. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic How about with the PF40P, what firmware was the EM brake release added to parameter 51, bit 27? Disregard, found info I needed. n"}
{"text": "### Human: CANOpen con ControlLogix Hi, I am need connect a PLC ControlLogix with o speed control that have CANOpen communication. If possible? What communication need? Thank you. ### Assistant: You will be probably able to do it using some sort of converter between your controllogix and device. I don't think controllogix support a communication protocol like CanOpen Flames is right on that.... :smileywink: There are some manufacturer producing Bridges and Converters...I may suggest HMS. Take a look to their site for Anybus Communicator / X-Gateway http://www.anybus.com/products/gatewayindex.shtml Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: nested FOR...NEXT Loops using UDT's causing overrun? here is my loop. i have an Array of UDT tags called STN there are 19 (0-18) tags in the array.inside of this i have an array of AOI's called Faults. there are 32 of these (0 - 31) when this runs i want to set all the the .Count(dint) and .Time(dint) tags to 0 in all 32 AOIs, in all 19 UDT arrays. for ResetRssqlStnIndex := 0 to 18 do for ResetRssqlIndex := 0 to 31 do STN[ResetRssqlStnIndex].Faults.Faults[ResetRssqlIndex].Count := 0; STN[ResetRssqlStnIndex].Faults.Faults[ResetRssqlIndex].Time := 0; end_for; end_for;when i run this loop and cross reference other tags in the UDT below the Faults tag, i'm showing that this routine is calling them and they are destructive.What am i doing wrong here? am i missing some fine line in the for..next struct or can i not nest them like i can in VB or other structured languages. when i change the code to this... i get not XREF's to other elements of the UDT's, nothing destructive for anything other than whats intended.whats the difference? for ResetRssqlIndex := 0 to 31 do STN[3].Faults.Faults[ResetRssqlIndex].Count := 0; STN[3].Faults.Faults[ResetRssqlIndex].Time := 0; end_for; ### Assistant: TPedley, I'm guessing that it's the Cross-Reference tool that is the problem. It probably sees a destructive reference within STN[ResetRssqlStnIndex].whatever and flags the whole array. Perhaps try this to see what the controller firmware is actually writing: * Create a new program with ONLY one ST main routine, and within that routine, ONLY a copy of the code in your first code block below. * Unschedule all the other Programs. So the ONLY code running is your block of ST. * Change the code to write a non-zero value to .Count and .Time -- perhaps 9999999 to make it stand out. * Clear the entire data structure (19 x 31 x struct ) with zero (Perhaps a FLL instruction -- in a ladder routine -- to the outermost STN with a size of 1... -- if not this, go into the tag monitor and clear all the data manually.) * Run the code and see if ALL the .Count and .Time elements are written to 9999999 and NOTHING ELSE. If the code writes ALL and ONLY the .Count and .Time elements, the firmware is fine and the cross-reference tool is being too conservative/generous in its listing. (This is the most likely case, and an anomaly could be entered for the cross-reference tool in RSLogix 5000.) If the code misses any of the .Count or .Time elements, or if ANYTHING ELSE is written to 9999999, either the compiler or firmware has a bug and an anomaly should be logged with Tech Support immediately. Since you have an array of AOIs, I assume you are running V17. You may want to try the V17.01.02 update that was just issued if you don't have it already. But the cross-reference tool has always been generous in flagging indirect references, and this may be by design. Please test and reply and let us know your s/w and f/w versions and if it's just the xref tool or if it's a 'bigger' bug. Thanks!Dale, W8ABZ i'm in the middle of a production run, i won't be able to get to it until late tonight. i will definately check all the items you listed, and i will post my results as soon as i can. thank you for your help. following your advice, i created a new project with the same UDT, and nothing else. using this simple nested loop to clear 2 dints per array (32) per station (19) i am getting destructive Xref's to all other tags in the udt, even tags above the target tags (no possible way to overflow into them) FOR X := 0 TO 18 DO FOR Y := 0 TO 32 DO STN[X].Faults.Faults[Y].Count := 0; STN[X].Faults.Faults[Y].Time := 0; end_for; end_for;when i change the code to this, (no station offset), i get no destructive xrefs to any non intended tags in the udt FOR X := 0 TO 18 DO FOR Y := 0 TO 32 DO STN[1].Faults.Faults[Y].Count := 0; STN[1].Faults.Faults[Y].Time := 0; end_for; end_for; when i change the code to this, (station indexed, no tag index), i get the xref errors again FOR X := 0 TO 18 DO FOR Y := 0 TO 32 DO STN[X].Faults.Faults[0].Count := 0; STN[X].Faults.Faults[0].Time := 0; end_for; end_for; so i guess its a glitch in the XREF function when doing nested indexed loops, but only when applied to the 1st array. it doesn't seem to be incorrect when indexing the sub elements in the udt. is this something you would expect to see with the way the XREF in RS5000 works? i can only assume it has a hard time XREFing all of the possible usages when you are indexing the files. sorry, change that For Y := 0 to 32 to 0 to 31 the code works as expected, with no overruns or any other issues. it puts the data i told it to, where i told it to. regardless of what the XREF says. so i guess this is just something to look out for when you are using loops and udts. thanks for the help and suggestions. n"}
{"text": "### Human: XP SP3 I'm not sure this is the correct forum for this post, but part of my question does have to do with activations. My IT department just notified us that the are rolling out XP Pro SP3. While the PC's that I am responsible for will not be automatically upgraded, I am sure that I will be asked to bring them up to SP3 unless I can show cause not to. Is there a document that shows which Rockwell programs & revision levels are certified to work in SP3? Do you have to move the keys back to the master disks before upgrading as with previous Service Pack upgrades? Is there anything that needs to be done for those products that have FT activations? Thanks in advance ### Assistant: * Each Software's Release Notes lists which Operating Systems were officially tested. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=52120 Also, more ontopic with the Activations.EVRSI works on FAT32 and NTFS formats, as long as your IT is not planning on doing any formatting and clean install migrations, and just pushing the SP3, it should have no effect FTA, is less dependent on file format, but the files are on the computer hard drive, so once again, as long as your IT is not planning on doing any formatting and clean install migrations, and just pushing the SP3 it should have no effect. A handfull of Rockwell products latest versions work with SP3 but older versions will not...and since it is not product wide support, they make you look it up individualy One of our specialists discovered the following problem with XP SP 3 a couple of months back: I just ran into a case where the new XP SP3 causes problems for the 1747-PIC driver. The customer was using RSLinx v 2.53.When you try to install/configure the PIC driver a Fatal Error Initializing the PIC Driver is displayed.Working with the customer we discovered the SERENUM.SYS has been updated.The SP2 version is 5.1.2600.2180 the new SP3 version is 5.1.2600.5512.To correct the problem we renamed the newer file to create a back-up and copied the SP2 version to the OS.Re-booted the PC and the PIC drive Initialized fine. Rockwell does not have any Knowledge base documents to support this yet. Knowing what I do of how corporations look at that kind of stuff ... Rockwell Automation will probably never support that fix. There's a good chance someone found it, but renaming back to a SP2 version of a file is a bit of a security no-no, so never created an answer on it. (All signs point to SP3 on that machine, but there is now a file with SP2 functionality ... could break something else without meaning to). JHutch Currently Rockwell products are not supported under XP SP3. It is being tested but not yet supported. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=54244 Rockwell link discussing removal of Service Pack 3 can any one help me to connect PIC/aic driver in xp sp3 a message appears withe a fatail error initializing pic driver can any body help me plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...befor iam installing sp3 i checked the knowlega and some one was asking if sp3 is compatable with rockwell softwere and rockwell answerd its only update to sp2 as they posted a link in microsoft web site said that ..so i installed it and the proplem was when i was choosing pic/aic driver to connect 2 panel view standard b5a5(dh485) this message appers...plz helpppppppp.. note :iam using sp3 and using rslinx2.52 ...how i solve this proplem??? Deleted duplicate posting - JHutch i did what mgvol has been said but the proplem is that every time i made a restart the proplem back again i have to disable the windows file protection im use xp3 with 1747-uic driver and rslink 2.53 and work fine remember the pic in the future is not abaible for use in the realese 2.54 is not supportsee you when u choose pic/aic driver from ur rslinx did't show u any error message, i faced a proplem a message appear (fatal error plz if u solved this proplem tell me how)..by the way which version of rslinx do u use with sp3 thanx alotwael I had issues with 1747-PIC / AIC + Driver it wouldn't start corectly under SP3. After I went back to SP2 problems went away. Just to *reinforce* other posts.... :smileyhappy: As of today, Windows XP SP3 is not supported by any Rockwell Software products. Aid 42682Aid 54244 Aid 40786 - fuzzy logic thanx to the forum, and Kudos to mgvol. i replaced all occurances (2) of the SP3 serenum.sys with that of the SP2. and all of a sudden, everything was right with the world ! :smileyhappy: p i did that alredy but after each restart it begains to back the old one again and didn't work again.. What were the 2 locations where you replaced the file serenum.sys? Some of the new Laptops and PC I have gotten from my IT guys have had SP3 installed on them. I only once ran into trouble and that was with some DDE stuff between RSView and Excel. What I have done is just requested that the next batch not be rolled up to SP3 but left at SP2 and their ok with that. Although now every time I have and issue I always question is it SP3 or something else. Long and short stay at SP2 and you will not be adding possible problems you will only keep the one you already have and that enough for me. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Allen Bradley 1336 + Is it possible to make a 1336 drive reverse itself if the current goes up on drive. If the screw starts binding up and current goes up drive would reverse and go the other way. ### Assistant: You could set the CR relay ( Par 158, 174-176 ) to 7 current limit or 5 at current and latch a off delay timer ( reverse time as the CR relay does not latch ) with the contact to I/p3 set as Rev / Fwd.To get the screw away place a time in Par 327 Start At time delay n"}
{"text": "### Human: Temp problem on VSD Unrelated to the false F008 issue is the fact that, if I run the VSD’s with the doors closed the drive temperature (B014) goes up to over 70 deg C. If I open the door it comes down to 61 deg C. This site is in the eastern part of South Africa and the average air temp in the summer is above 40 deg C with a very high humidity factor. We have forced air cooling on the enclosure's that move about 540MC/H through the enclosure. The pumphouse ambient temp is about 25-30 deg C and could go as high as 45-50 deg C in the summer. ### Assistant: 1. Verify that maximum ambient temperature has not been exceeded. 2. Check fan. 3. Check for excess load. If the drive still fails after checking previous actions, probably it should be replaced... :smileysurprised: See also Aid 59345 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Elsys, It looks to me that you need to recalculate the airflow requirements for your forced ventilation of the enclosure.The drive outputs 6167 Watts of heat at rated current (assuming 22C-D460A103 as per your previous posts) and as an example using an enclosure 2000mmH x 1000mmW x 600mmD at an ambient of 30 deg C and a maximum internal temperature of 50 deg C you would need approx 968m3/h. At 40 deg C ambient you would need approx 2047m3/h to maintain the internal cabinet temperature of less than 50 deg C. Your ventilation is too small meaning more heat is being generated than the enclosure and ventilation system can dissipate. Hi Shozza; you are right, the temp calc was done wrong, we have installed bigger cooling already and will have to put aircons on the panel for the summer months. thanks anyway. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Active Display System Hi frnds, can anyone help me out to install RAD system to windows 2003 server.which steps has to be followed, so as to install the aforesaid software? ### Assistant: Did you already follow the Getting Results Guide ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: micrologix datalog extraction utility is it possible to display data obtained with this utility as pure binary. say if i use b3.8 to monitor 16 bits and i would like to look at it as binary i find i cannot do this, excel wont allow this i think 10 bits and the 11th as a sign bit. thanks ### Assistant: There are many sources in the Web where you may find Decimal to Binary conversion for Excel. I've tested the one at this LINK, and work fine. You may also use VBA code instead. See the results in the attached Screenshot.... and be aware of the following: 1. You may need to change syntax of the formula in the link as your List Separator (Regional and Language Settings in Control Panel) could be different than , (comma)... for example (LOG(F2,2)+1 could become (LOG(F2;2)+12. You have to insert the formula and confirm it as an Array (Ctrl+Shift+Enter)3. In the example in the link, the number to be converted is in cell H1, in the attached screenshot is instead in F2 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF70 speed command Is it possible to use analog input 1 as the main speed command for a PF70 with analog input 2 as a trim.ie multiply the required speed of analog 1 by the % of analog 2.For example if analog 1 is 12 mA (4-20mA input) then this is half speed.Then if analog 2 is 2.5V (0-10V input) then the speed of the drive will be 50% x 25% = 12.5% The manual is very unclear.Regards Alan ### Assistant: I'm agree, User manual isn't so exaustive...:smileymad: Something better in the Reference Manual, did you see it ? (pages 99 - 100) Anyway, the Trim value can only be Added or Subtracted to the main reference... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Web sever I have found a few of the limitations when using RSView as RAD. Now what are the limitations on using the web service? Currently the project I have been talking about in other post is also display on a web link. This is even more restrictive. Two items I would like to over come are.1. Auto Refresh (currently we need to refresh the page)2. Load a display using a parameter file Can anyone help me out? ### Assistant: Technote 9756 shows how to edit the RSViewWeb.ASP to automatically update the Webserver screens. And tech note 58121 shows how to pass parameters to screens in WebServer. Hope these help out. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Retaining Max/Peak Value Hello, I am monitoring an effluent pit level and would like to retain the maximum level it reaches and place it in a float register.The signal is an coming from an analog 4-20mA sensor which controls the pumps in the pit.What would be the best way of monitoring the 4-20 and holding the highest value it reaches? Thanks in advance, JW. ### Assistant: Ausaar, I assume this is for a Logix5000-based system. For PLC-5, SLC-500, etc., the idea is the same -- the data addresses will be different. A ladder rung with a GRT (greater than) instruction and a MOV (move) will capture the max value: GRT Local:2:I.Ch0Data MaxValue MOV Local:2:I.Ch0Data MaxValue (You can replace the Input address above with whatever tag if you scale the value in your code....) You'll probably need to reset the maximum at some point. Setting the bit ResetMax in the following rung will accomplish that. I would have this reset rung IMMEDIATELY BEFORE the rung above. XIC ResetMax OTU ResetMax MOV -3.4E38 MaxValue (If your input or scaled value is never less than zero, you can use a Clear (CLR) instruction to zero the max value. The most negative value you can put in a REAL is -3.40282347E38, so the rung above makes sure your max is reset to a REALLY MINIMUM value!) Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ ControlLogix has a Maximum Capture (MAXC) and Minimum Capture (MINC) function block that captures the maximum or minimum value of an input over time. It has the reset value built in and as long as the ENABLE bit is high, it's tracking the value. n"}
{"text": "### Human: View SE / ME interface to SQL database directly w/o PLC I have had several requests recently to interface with a SQL server database directly from an HMI (View SE). You can write to new records via transaction manager very easily, can go the other way to a PLC via Stored Procedures in the database, but I'm not sure that you can do queries / modify existing records in the database this way? Tech support recommended using ActiveX controls but could not suggest any. I did a search on the web but not coming up with much either. Can anyone recommend a quality ActiveX control to do this? Applications are viewing / adding / modifying recipes in the SQL database via the HMI directly. The recipe data is coming from a business system and everyting MUST be stored in the database, not in the HMI natively. They can not /do not want to use the built-in recipe manager in SE or ME. I don't know of any way to get the recipe manager to interface wth a database anyway. We want to stay away from custom code, but if not an ActiveX, if anyone could recommend some sample VBA code for this functionality, this might help as well. Any help would be apprciated. ### Assistant: For sure other users could be more exaustive on the answer :smileytongue:.... in the meanwhile, try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 51768Aid 62191 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic This is a job for VBA code. There are no canned ActiveX controls that I know of that handle database data entry. The technotes that Fuzzy referenced are good examples for interfacing with SQL. If you prefer to use Access, there is a good tech note in the RSView32 realm that can work. You would have to re-write any of the portions that use the RSView32 object model, but the parts about interfacing with MS Access can also be used with SE. See tech note 4821 for details. Having said that, if you know much about Visual Basic, you could build your own ActiveX control using much of the same code in these tech notes. Keep in mind that you would need to install this on any system that uses that control. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using VBA, data retrieved from datalog doesn't match format of datalog? I've written a small piece of VBA code to look through a non-active datalog during a specific one hour time period, and in this particular case, return the lowest number that it finds during that time period for 3 different tags in the datalog. The data retrieval works as expected, but the format of the data returned does not match what is in the datalog. For example, in the datalog during the time span I am examining, the lowest value is 3.7689741. But the value the VBA code returns is 4. It appears that the data is rounded to the nearest whole number, which is completely useless to me for my needs. I thought perhaps it's because the data source of the tag being logged into the data log is an integer file in the PLC, but that makes no sense either, because the data is written into the datalog in floating point format. I tried using a format command on the returned value, for example: Cl2(x) = Format(oDLWideRecs(i).DataLogTagValues(Cl2TagName(x).Value, 0.000) but all that does is change the 4 to 4.000. Does anyone know why this is happening? And more importantly, how I can correct it? jep ### Assistant: Can you include the code you are using to read the datalog model? Also would be useful to see how you are DIMming the variables. This is the code: Private Sub Get_Cl2_Minimums(Chlorine() As Single) Dim oDLModel As DataLogModel Dim oDLWideRecs As DataLogWideRecords Dim oTagList As StringList Dim dtStart As Date Dim dtEnd As Date Dim sHour As String Dim sMin As String Dim Cl2Name(1 To 3) As String Dim i As Byte Dim x As Integer Dim z As Integer Set oDLModel = gDataLog(Chlorine Residuals) Set oTagList = oDLModel.DataLogModelCfg.TagsInModel sHour = Format(gTagDb.GetTag(Low_PriFinishedPeakHourPD).Value, 00) sMin = Format(gTagDb.GetTag(Low_PriFinishedPeakMinutePD).Value, 00) 'Set the start time and date. dtStart = Date - 1 &   & (sHour - 1) & : & sMin - 1 & :00 'Set the end time and date. dtEnd = Date - 1 &   & sHour & : & sMin & :59 'Since only these three tags will ever be used, hard coding the tag names is used here. Cl2Name(1) = Low_PriCl2_PreClearwell Cl2Name(2) = High_PriCl2_Finished Cl2Name(3) = Low_PriRTU13_Cl2Residual 'Read the records from the one-hour time period. Set oDLWideRecs = oDLModel.ReadTagDataWide(oTagList, dtStart, dtEnd, , roMaxReadRecordsAll) z = oDLWideRecs.Count 'Set each tag in the array's starting value to a value higher than can be recorded by the meters. Chlorine(1) = 5.1 Chlorine(2) = 5.1 Chlorine(3) = 5.1 On Error Resume Next 'Find the minimum recorded value for each tag in the returned data set. For i = 1 To z For x = 1 To 3 If oDLWideRecs(i).DataLogTagValues(Cl2Name(x)).Value <= Chlorine(x) Then Chlorine(x) = Format(oDLWideRecs(i).DataLogTagValues(Cl2Name(x)).Value, 0.000) End If Next x Next i Set oDLWideRecs = Nothing Set oTagList = Nothing Set oDLModel = Nothing End Sub Jeparham, I've been playing with your code. I had to make a few tweaks to accomodate my test project, but bottom line is that I am reading floating point values. I created a tag called float and gave it a value of 3.14159265. I logged that tag value, then read the value into a variable called FloatTagValue (dimensioned as type Single). I stripped off the Format function so I could see what the raw data was. I used the following command:FloatTagValue = oDLWideRecs.Item(1).DataLogTagValues(float).ValueThe value of FloatTagValue was 3.141593, so it would seem that the value being returned is already a float. So whatever the issue is here, it is not that the method is not capable of viewing the actual tag value. My guesses at this point are:Your floating point number is being rounded.You are not looking at the value that you think you are - might walk the code through Debug mode and put some watches on some of these values.Sorry I couldn't be more specific as to your problem, just not seeing it here. Thanks for taking a look at it. I had already set up some watches on key variables in the program, but I just now noticed what I think may be the cause of my problem, or at the very least, is a symptom of it. In the watch window I set a watch on oDLWideRecs and a second watch on oDLWideRecs (i).DataLogTagValues(Cl2Name(x)).Value You may recall that oDLWideRecs is dimensioned as DataLogWideRecords, i is dimensioned as a byte and x is dimensioned as an integer. In the watch window, as soon as the program starts: oDLWideRecs data type is listed as DataLogModel/DataLogModel oDLWideRecs (i).DataLogTagValues(Cl2Name(x)).Value is listed as variant/integer. As soon as a value is polled, the data type for oDLWideRecs (i).DataLogTagValues(Cl2Name(x)).Value changes to variant/long. And as I am sure you're aware, a long data type is a whole number, like an integer. The only difference is the minimum and maximum values possible in the long data type. So, the upshot of all of that is, even though I explicitly dimensioned all of my variables, the value is being returned as a long data type. Now I just have to figure out why. Edit: I forgot to mention... I looked in the datalog files I am using, and the numbers 3 and 4 don't appear in the files anywhere. All data is floating point, for every tag logged into the file. I still wonder if it's because of the data type of the tag's data source. All three of the tags are located in integer file N7, and scaling is done in RSView's tag database using the Scale field. Well, I believe I have found the problem... fixing it... not so much. I ran the program to a break point and in the immediate window I tried ?gTagDb.GetTag(tagname).TagValueDataType All three tags returned a 0, which indicates the constant roTagDataTypeLong. In the help file it spells it out: tag's value is returned as a long So I start looking for where it could be setting the data as an integer data type. In the tag database, I found that the default data type for those three tags are all set to Default Unfortunately, even though they are analog tags, it will not allow me to change the data type to Floating point. I get an error that reads Error writing tag. The data type is invalid for the corresponding tag address. That's because the tag's address is N7:10. An integer file. Any suggestions how I can correct this? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Re: Guidelines for Use Is thier any special requirements for long term storage of processor contained PLCs Cabinets ? (1-3 months) regarding Temperature and relative humidity. ### Assistant: Jakopian, Check out the 1756 ControlLogix Controllers Technical Data sheet, Publication 1756-TD001A-EN-E (5/2009), available on the literature.rockwellautomation.com (literature library) website. Per page 1, storage is listed as -40 C to +85 C (-40 F to 185 F). I would follow the information on relative humidity, etc., on this same sheet. Other products (PCs, PanelViews, etc.) may have more stringent specs, so check the spec sheets for the more fragile items. In general, avoid moist/wet locations. Temperature isn't a big issue; as you see above, you've got quite a range to work in. But you want to avoid condensation if the cabinet is put in a very cold or temperature-cycling location. We once had some cabinets we had to send out that were to be stored for an extended time. We put a large pack of dessicant (industrial-sized silica gel packet) in each enclosure, then applied a tip indicator and a shock indicator, wrapped it with the usual shipping dock wrap and shipped it out. The tip indicator is a little egg-timer like thing with a sticky part and bright blue powder. If the enclosure is tipped over, the blue powder sticks to the sticky part in the upper part of the egg-timer, recording the event. The shock indicator widgets work similarly, just with a little part inside that's calibrated to break when the forces (G's due to shock) exceed a specified limit. These will tell you if the cabinets were improperly handled over the course of shipping and storage. And the biggie: make sure all the batteries are disconnected. Even better, don't ship batteries in the enclosure. (They probably won't meet the temperature specs above for the modules anyway.) Save off any code first, of course. You can't count on the batteries holding memory for the duration of storage, so why waste them? You certainly don't want any leakage or worse from them. Hope this helps!Good Luck! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: How Redundant CLX talk each other over telephone line I have one CLX with ethernet module sit in control room, acted as data concentrator where HMI will pull the data from data concentratorthere are 20 remote PLC stations which are redundant (with ethernet module), I try to use telephone line to connect data concentrator with all 20 remote PLC ( every PLC is in different location), data concentrator CLX will pull the data from all remote PLC stations, and eventually display at HMI how to setup this system, which components need? any sample program?thank you. ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View ME 5.00.08 Unfortunately, I don't have any screenshots or exact error messages with me. I'll be sure to try and get some the next time this problem occurs. Occasionally, I've been having issues with my PanelViews (both 1250 or 1500) when writing to a register or changing states of bits, it gives me an error message along the lines of Failed to write to tag _____. To fix it, we usually just restart the panelview, then problem solved, but it can be really annoying when you are in the middle of a breakdown situation. Has anyone else ever had this happen to them? Any ideas on what can be the cause? It seems like it happened to us only since the firmware/software upgrade from RSView 4.00 to FTView 5.00.08. Feels to me like if the panelview hasn't been used in a long time, then the communications times out without resetting. ### Assistant: Need more information. what protocol from PV+ to processor?? Which processor used? I've seen similar errors in projects where I am using screens with On Top selected in the display properties instead of Replace. If one of the tags in those screens points to an invalid address - maybe one that is not present in the controller - it can cause problems for other tags in the same communication packet. Rebooting would solve that until you navigated to the screen with the invalid tag reference. If you are using HMI tags, you might try deleting the project's CACHE folder and TAG*.CAC, then rebuilding the runtime and re-downloading to the terminal. BTW, can you reproduce this on a computer with ME Runtime? If so, there could be messages in the FactoryTalk log that give you a clue. Ethernet/IP 1756-L61/63 Control Logix Processors Check Knowbase Doc 41204 http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=41204 you may be experiencing ENET lockup. depends on what equipment you are using and when it was manufactured.the knowbase lists which processors ( yours ) along with what other modules can exhibit that problem and a resolution for it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700 Size 3 Parts AB: I have to repair a 52A PF700-VC VFD (Size 3 Frame) P/N 20B E 052 A 0 AYNACO1) Can I order parts for this size 3 VFD?2) Can I get a service/repair manual? We have ~20 of these VFDs that are powered directly from pole mounted 600VAC transformers in sanitary lift systems. Sometimes the diode/SCR End and MOVs are blown by the power company. I lost another one last night, during a lightning storm, and I would like to repair it in our shop. I know that AB offers an exchange repair but the price our distributor quoted was 72% of the cost of a new unit so it wouldn't be worth the time to exchange. --SMW ### Assistant: The following link is to the spare parts listing for the powerflex 70 / 700 drive familyMaybe you need some line chokes to dampen the poor power, and some transtector units ( www.transtector.com )to suppress the lightning. ( have saved many drives with their units) http://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/powerflex70/PF7ReleasedParts.pdf David9: Doesn't help; this is only a parts list for the larger 52A/690V(Size 5+) or +77A/600V(Size 7+) PF700 VFDs, we standardized on the 52A/600V(Size 3) PF700s. Page 13 of the document lists the spares for frame 3, 600vac PF700.Unfortunatly, only the fans are kept as spares. As the majority of the power section is connected directly to the SCR/Bridge rectifier block, it would not be economical to keep as a spare part. Rockwell have never issued PC card drawings for their hardware, with so many surface mount components any fiddling with a soldering iron will no doubt damage other components or connections. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can not see dongkle drive in my computer Hi there, I just got a new dongkle but whenever I plug in my computer. My computer can not see it as dongkle drive.So, please give me an advice step by step to make it shown this dongkle as one drive. Any question, feel free to contact me +6681-9224907. Thanks & Regards,Songkid ### Assistant: Are you talking about the FactoryTalk Activation dongle (9509-USBDONG) ? Maybe you have the wrong driver installed... try to follow indications in Aid 35630 and Aid 32585 ... NOTE it is NOT a Memory stick, you can not save your activation file on it. :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Histogram tool in Logix5000 It does exist any feature like Histograms in RSLogix5000?(Trends are not the best option) ### Assistant: Unfortunately this feature isn't available in RSLogix 5000, and I've not seen previsions to include it.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: powerflex 4 control net why can't i upload parameters from drive in rslogix 5000 ver 16 using cnet? I can't see the drive, all i see is the 1756-cnb card and i cant choose a drive. ### Assistant: Make sure your drive has been added to your I/O configuration under the CNB card responsible for the drive. Also, when you add the drive to your I/O configuration, the major AND minor revision must match exactly in order to upload/download from within RSLogix 5000. If the drive is version 2.3 and your I/O was entered at version 2.2, then you have to change it to 2.3 in your plc configuration before looking at parameters. Your drive should show up under your CNB card even if you're offline if it's in the I/O configuration. Start RSLinx and open RSWho, do you see the drive appears under the CNB ? ...I mean are you able to browse the Controlnet network under your CNB card ? If not, then probably the EDS for that CNB is missed... you may download it at: http://www.ab.com/networks/edsDownload EDS file related to the CNB (series and major/minor rev.) you have to temporary folder.Shut down all SW including RSLINX as a service from the computers system tray.Install the EDS sheet by selecting it when launching START-PROGRAMS-ROCKWELL SOFTWARE-RSLINXTOOLS-EDS HARDWARE INSTALLATION TOOLRestart RSLINX and problem should be fixed.- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: beckhoff IE6002 does any one have any experience with setting up and using a beckhoff IE6002 1 channel serial RS232 module in RSlogix. currently we are using an L35 processor. any help/info greatly appreciated ### Assistant: Unfortunately I've never used it...anyway, if you have doubts about the RSLogix5000 configuration of the module (Ethernet/IP side - I guess -) please post again and maybe I can give some help... about the configuration and the usage of the module (serial port side), it is quite difficult to me to be able to help you.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus Firmware Download Hello all, Can i download panelview plus firmware from here?What i know, for download panleview plus need the username & password. Create the new or existing password or only rockwell person can access that? Thanks ### Assistant: The firmware is located at the following web address: http://support.rockwellautomation.com/ControlFlash/FUW.asp You will have to register on the Rockwell Automation support website to download this firmware...NOT only Rockwell Automation employee can download firmware updates...you may, too. :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, The registration page not have Registeration ButtonAny other suggestion for registeration.Maybe rockwell disable the button? Thanks Ooopsss.... you're right... I see the problem, too. :smileymad: For sure there is something broken in the Web site... I suggest to send your complain using the contact us link in the Login page. - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy.......adios!!! Looks like the login server is down. I'm told they are working on it, so it should be back up soon. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Direct Driver Someone knows how Direct Driver works?? ### Assistant: Assuming you're asking about RSView32....take a look to the User Guide, chapter 2 contains useful infos for you... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix 1768-L43 Controller and 1769-ASCII 2 Channel Module: Configuring Serial Ports Hello, I am attempting to use the 1769-ASCII 2 Channel Module with a CompactLogix 1768-L43 Controller to connect to two AccuRange AR 700 lasers, with one laser connected to each channel of the module. The serial port of the controller is connected to the host computer. However, I seem to be unable to have the module's ports be recognized in the RSLogix 5000 program. For example, if I use an 'AWA' instruction to Channel 1, I recieve an error code which indicates that the port does not exist. I am confident that the module has been mounted correctly, and the module has been configured to match the laser specifications. Is there some other option which I am missing? I hope this is the correct forum. Thank you,JWRem ### Assistant: Check out the following Rockwell Knowledge base answer ID ; 32057 & 29347 “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime” ASCII instructions like AWA, are to be used with the serial port of the controller (Channel 0) when it is configured as ASCII protocol.Channel 1 is not available in a L4x controller, this is the why you get the error. To use Channel 0 and Channel 1 of your ASCII module, you have to set your application program as indicated in the technotes suggested by David9 :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1791ES safety module Does anyone know of a PDF or something to help with wireing and configuration with this safety module.I could use information on common programming practises for safety PLC's if anyone knows of something. Thanks ### Assistant: Go to the Rockwell literature library,http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/public/documents/webassets/browse_category.hcst Select I/O, then 1791DS compactblock Guard I/O, and the document can be found Take also a look to the Installation Instructions and the User Manual for the 1791ES modules.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data recovery and floppy master disk activations Hi, I'm looking for some advice. At the moment I am assisting in a data recovery procedure and would to know the options. I have 16 licenses covering, RSView, RSLinx and RSLogix5 on floppy master disks. If one of the HMI's goes down due to a hard drive failure and I can't get the license file back on the floppy disk what should I do? I have a mix of old and new hardware (old hardware has no USB, only floppy and CD drive). Reading the forum I see the new floppy can take 2 days to arrive. Should I maybe change the license files now? But what about the lack of USB ports on the older HMI's? Any help would be appreciated. Suzanne. ### Assistant: First we have to distinguish between an activation master disk damaged, and an hard disk failure. Just in the first case you have to ask Support to send you a new Floppy... otherwise, in case of hard disk failure, you may use the reset procedure one time per year per serial number online at Activation Support web site or through Tech Support. Aid 36168 explains how to use the Reset. Also you may ask to migrate your *old* EVRSI activations to the new FactoryTalk Activations, and host them on an USB dongle or Hard Drive (where USB port is not available). Talk to your Rockwell Automation representative or Tech Support to understand this possibility.Take a look to the following technote to understand how new FTA works. Aid 35251 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Great thanks. That gives me an idea of what I should do in the event of hardrive failure or loss. Cheers :smileywink: Suzanne n"}
{"text": "### Human: Global Objects and Tag Substitution Hello, a workmate made a backup of a FT View SE application (local) in *.apa file format (by using the Application Manager tool) and gave it to me; then I used the very same program (Application Manager) to make a RESTORE application.Everything was fine but suddenly when i was doing a drag and drop from a Display for Global Objects, I noticed that the new referenced objects did not had enabled the Tag Substitution Feature and even more, if I try to edit the animations, all is showed in grey (disabled) so I don't know what is happenig.Thanks 4 your support.Note;OS= WIN XP SP2FT View Se: 5.00 (CPR9) I have installed the pack from Answer ID 47105 ### Assistant: Are you trying to edit the global object itself or the referenced object? Right-click on an object on the screen, and select Global Object DefaultsAssuming your workmate's application behaves like you want yours to, make sure your default settings are the same as his/hers. I have same issue in one computer, however, the same application backup is working fine in other computer it should be windows OS or FTView se installation issue, I did't find why Thanks to all of you. Finally I gave up!That never worked out so I'm keeping working on the PC on the app was originally made...Well, more or less: Using vmware converter I made a physical computer a virtual computer.Anyway is annoying to have that unsolved bugs all over the place and that rockwell never answer properly. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 100 Hz counter input - What is the pulse per Min maximum? Hello, I have a Micro 1400 with 6 100 Hz pulse counter inputs. I have flowmeters that produce 0-250,000 ppm If 100 Hz means 100 pulses/sec (6k ppm), then I need to do something about the flowmeter, like spec a new one? Or am I missing something? Many Thanks, Tim ### Assistant: Tim, just a little confusion in your considerations... :smileywink: Micrologix 1400 has up to 6 High Speed Counter, right, but the frequency is 100 Khz ! Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy Logic: Yes, 100 khz! Looks like that is 6 million pulses per minute! so my 250,000 is fine I guess! Thanks, Tim n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Web Server Software I'm looking for our install disk. It has been some time since we needed to touch this and I'm having trouble locating the software. Are the Web server Utilities bundled with another package or are they a stand alone install/activation? ### Assistant: For what I can remember, RSView32 Webserver only comes with its own install CD... not bundled with other software packages. It has cat. # 9301-RSVWSENE - fuzzy logic Thank you. I found them up front with IT. Along with the activation disk. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PoewrFlex700 HIM Start Problem Dear all, Q1: HIM Start ProblemI had install a Powerflex700 drive with DDC control enable. The Powerlfex700 drive config to run at Auto & Manual Mode, Digital In 1 set as Start Drive & Digital In 3 as AUTO/MANUAL Mode selection. Speed Control by Analog In 1 in 0-10V input. In AUTO mode, VFD was control by DDC via terminal input and the VFD works fine. While in Manual mode, the HIM take control by press ALT-AUTO/MAN, the HIM takeover the VFD control and can start and adjust VFD speed. However, once I push the Stop button(Which is red in color) the drive stop and cannot be start again by press the Start button(Which is green in color). I had to recycle power of the drive in-order to gain the MANUAL mode control again from the HIM. Also I had check that the HIM Stop button(Which is red in color) can stop the VFD in both MANUAL & AUTO mode. Then in-order to regain the VFD control, we had to recycle the VFD power again. Would anyone can help?? What is the problem and is there any config parameter I had to checked with?? Q2: Analog In ProblemOur DDC contractor use johnson control controller and speed control by 0-10V, during the T&C we found that the VFD cannot received the true signal. Actually when the DDC AO output 10V to VFD, we measured the VFD Analog In 1 had read only 7.4V?? Is that the problem of Impedence? Any thing we can do to solve it? Q3: HIM Frequency Display Minus Sign Problem My VFD was configured to run in reverse direction in order to get the Motor Runs in correction direction. Howeve the frequency display in HIM with minus sign and how can I remove it?? Any idea or suggestion?? Thousand thanks for kindly assistance in advanced. ### Assistant: A1. Please read the note on the bottom of page 1-23Important ; Progamming Inputs for 2 wire control deactivates all HIM Start buttons unless parameter 192, [ save HIM Ref ], bit 1 [ Manual Mode ]=1.This will allow HIM to control Start and Jog.You will need to remove the run input before selecting Manual control. A2. you could adjust the min/ max speed required to match the 0-7.5 signal A3 .Change the drive back to Forward and reverse two of the motor lead connections Thanks for your information to A3. I'm afraid this can not solve my problem as you can see why from the site listed below:http://www.control.com/thread/1227039468 Motor connected to VFD cannot alter the rotation by swap any 2-phase line. Therefore, I guess the solution to this question is to config the HIM in correct way. I still seaking for the solution. Hi, about point A3.... Agree with David, swapping two output phases will reverse motor rotation :smileysurprised: Just tested on a PF700 and obviously works.... Did you also test it ? - fuzzy logic To A3:I haven't done this before on VFD, only on Contactor driven motor and it works!! Did you done that and made it before?? Since my client also try this method on a Telemecanique VFD and fail to solve the same problem. But it worth to try at this stage. Thanks!! To A1 & A2:I still can't figure out the problem. Is it the HIM start button tends to start motor in forward and the VFD setting is start motor revese so that I can't start motor from HIM Start button after I stop VFD with Stop button?? Any ideas?? However, I had done what David said and I can now start and vary VFD speed but not re-start it after HIM Stop button pressed. This case also exist when the VFD runs in AUTO mode, once the Stop button pressed, VFD can't be re-start again from DDC and need re-cycle VFD power. What a strange!!! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Backplane Communications I have a 17 slot ControlLogix rack with 4 processors installed in it. What is the best way to communicate from processor to processor through the backplane? Do you have to create Produced/Consumed tags? Do you have to use message commands? Can I set each processor up with the others in the configuration tree and simply point to them? Also, is there a document out there that explains all of this? ### Assistant: You may either use the Produced/Consumed tags or Messages... basically, the main difference is that the first is a scheduled communication (you may define a RPI to which the data as to be produced) and multiple controllers can simultaneously consume (receive) the data; messaged are unscheduled and will be executed through a message buffer... you have also to write code in your application program to manage them, especially if you have many different MSG instructions to be configured. A produced tag sends its data to one or more consumed tags (consumers) without using logic. Take a look to the following manuals to understand how they work: Produced and Consumed TagsMessages Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic One thing to remember about produced/consumed tags is that each tag creates a connection. If you produce 50 tags then that's 50 connections. It's best to create an array type tag (50 elements in size) and you only have 1 connection for the produced tag instead of 50 connections. There is a limit and you have to take into account any other modules on the chassis or network that the controller owns as they also use connections. Thanks for all the responses. The only problem that I have with Produced/Consumed tags is that they can't be created online. This is very difficult for us considering the lines run 24/7 with a PM scheduled about every 2 months. Is there a way to produced the tags online? If I use version 17 can I import them online? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Computer Died Hi I just bought a new computer cause my main desktop stopped working. I had my activation on there but there is no way I know of to transfer it from my old pc to my new. Any help would be greatful. Thanks ### Assistant: It depends... if you have an *old* EVRSI activation (I mean the one that uses floppy disk) then you have to move the activation from the died PC to the Master disk and then from the Master disk to the new PC use the EVmove utility...if you have a FactoryTalk activation, you need to do a rehost to have your activation available again to be used on the new PC... Problem here is that I guess you're not able to access your old PC as it is died... :smileysad: So, I suggest to contact Technical Support ; giving them your software Serial Number they will help you to reactivate the software using the proper method. - fuzzy logic Iave had the same problem when the hard disks on computers of mine crashed 2 times in the last 3 years. Rockwell technical support was more then happy to reset my activations, no questions asked/ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelbuilder32 Multistate programming question i have a monitoring screen on my panelview 600 and it has 6 buttons, or indicators. each button has 2 different states. i want to change it so that each button has 4 states, but all i come up with is error with the changes that i have made. here is what i have: each indicator has 4 statesi put them down as unsigned integer, and used the address N7:20 as indicator 1, N7:21 as indicator 2, etc so in the plc program for indicator 1 i used N7:20/0 as the first message, this works, but when i change it to N7:20/1, N7:20/2, or N7:20/3 I will get an error message on the indicator. in the states tab i have each value in the same order, 0-3. what am i missing? ### Assistant: Just a question... in the properties of your Multistate, you set to read Least Significant Bit or Value from your N7:xx ? In both cases, check to not have other bits ON in your integer, otherwise a wrong State number is *asked* to your PV and it shows error.If you use Value read, then verify the number you have inside the integer, it should obviously be in a valid range for your states (0 to 3) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic When you set up your multistate in panelbuilder, You can just add the integer of N7:20 associate with the corresponding tag name and set in propreties tab of the multistate indicator on READ a value and in the other tab name STATE just add the text with the corresponding value of 0 - 3. In the PLC logics, just MOV the right value when you want in your register , it's more simple and easy to program that way. bye Flames I have the read set to value and then in the value drop box i have it set to unsigned integer. Would it be easier to use least significant bit? Flames- I have the panel builder program set the way that you have on the post. I am going to try to use MOV rung instead of an OTE type rung. Maybe that is where the problem lies... Dan123, as I suggested in my previous post, be careful to use a value inside your integer that is in a valid range for your defined states.Altough the use of a number as Flames suggested is the easier solution, the same your indicator should work if you use the bits as before; just be aware to the binary value they assume when you set them... I mean, with just the first two bits (N7:20/0 - N7:20/1) you have the possibility to select all the states you've programmed... BIT 1 - BIT 0 0 0 - State 00 1 - State 11 0 - State 21 1 - State 3 Using other bits, will generate the error on the multistate. In the example below, you request State number 4, that isn't defined as per your post. BIT 2 - BIT 1 - BIT 0 1 0 0 - State 4 So, the terminal will display the error indication. Just consider the decimal value of your binary bits. :smileysurprised: Again, the Flames's suggestion is preferrable. :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I have few panelbuider application done by this way for alarms and other message. There's no limit at the state ( except 32767) for the value. The most important thing is to get the right value with the message. The rest is simple. You can keep the settings in data form of unsigned integer. if you get any trouble just send me e-mail and it will be a pleasure to help you more. I can maybe add print screen with. bye Thanks to both of you , you have been a big help. I got the program working with Flames' suggestion of using the MOV rung. I still have a question regarding the following post... I mean, with just the first two bits (N7:20/0 - N7:20/1) you have the possibility to select all the states you've programmed... BIT 1 - BIT 0 0 0 - State 00 1 - State 11 0 - State 21 1 - State 3 I will repost with how I understand this : BIT 1 - BIT 0 0 0 - State 0 (N7:20/0 off, N720/1 off)0 1 - State 1 (N7:20/0 off, N720/1 on)1 0 - State 2 (N7:20/0 on, N720/1 off)1 1 - State 3 (N7:20/0 on, N720/1 on) This means I would use an OTE type rung, 2 for each state? Also, I would use binary instead of unsigned integer? Is this correct? Hi Dan, maybe I was not clear in my previous post... :smileywink: I was thinking about the use of the same settings you have (Unsigned Integer) in the Multistate, just the value to pass is prepared in binary instead of a decimal MOV. So, the following: BIT 1 - BIT 0 0 0 - State 0 (N7:20/0 off, N720/1 off)0 1 - State 1 (N7:20/0 ON, N720/1 OFF)1 0 - State 2 (N7:20/0 OFF, N720/1 ON)1 1 - State 3 (N7:20/0 on, N720/1 on) When you have the two bits off, State 0 will be active, if you want to have the State 1, only the N7:20/0 should be on (using OTE is ok); then if you want to display State 2, only N7:20/1 should be on, and finally, if you set both bits, you will display State 3. Writing this bits is like to move a value in the integer...it is just another manner to realize the application. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error FTAC Schedule Dear All, i have problem when configuring backup schedule (disaster recovery). after running manual, error message occured : cannot find the configuration file please advise regards,Jerry ### Assistant: Jerry, I'm not an expert on that, just I've found the following infos: :smileytongue: At first, check to be sure that Design Mode is not enabled while you are scheduling. Could also be possible the Master file is corrupt or the Master file has been deleted from the schedule or has been moved from it's intended location For Controllogix, do the following: The master file is a *.acd file, Save the file as a *.l5k, open the *.l5k and resave it, check the file back in. Re-run the schedule For Slc/Plc files: Create a new file, copy and paste all the rungs from the original file to the new file, check the new file in and make it the Master file. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic thanks for your advise, i'll check. regards,Jerry n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1336 Random Faults I have a 25HP 1336 Plus drive that has been faulting out on faults 39,41 and 49 at random intervals. We have checked all of the drive components, motors, contactors etc that are connected to the drive and have found no issues. The drive constantly tries to reset although the Max retries is set to 3. Once power is cycled the drive will run anywhere from 10mins to several days without a fault. Need help ### Assistant: These faults relate to phase to ground faults between the motor cable and earth.The cable / or motor could have exceeded the corona inception voltage.Is can occur if the motor cables are run in an area where the cable can be immersed in water ( underground conduits )The best way to test this is to disconnect the motor at the motor terminals and start the driveread the current value in parameter 54 ( output current ) any value shown here is what the cable is using.If you meger the cable / motor you need a 1000volt unitYou could turn the carrier frequency PWM ( par 45) down to 2khz / and install a load choke to reduce the reflected wave Read the following tech paper http://www.ab.com/drives/techpapers/ieee/pcic.pdf www.reliance.com/pdf/drives/whitepapers/D7722.pdf Youre right, the cable to the pumps runs underground into a sewage wet well. The problem with disconnecting the pump is that they are submersible raw sewage pumps and in order to disconnect at the pump means braking the seals. We have meggerd the cable assembly and pump and they check out ok with a 1000V megger.We can do a cable inspection to see if the cable has been damaged but disconnecting the motor at the pump is out of the question. Thanks for the information Fraser n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 700 VFD's on Ethernet with 20-COMM-E To all, This is lengthy, but important that I get it right, so bear with me. I am planning on installing 5 PowerFlex 700 drives on my ControlLogix system using Ethernet control to 20-COMM-E modules in each drive. My system currently has 1 L63 processor running version 15. I have one remote I/O rack that is on Ethernet with ENBT cards for communications. (one ENBT in the main chassis, one in a remote rack. I also have a 3 slot Flex I/O rack with an AENT on this same comm. link.)Only I/O communications occur on these ENBT's. HMI & programming communications are on a separate ENBT. I will be running the drives with an RPI of ~100ms, and will probably use all of the Datalinks available for drive information. There is a Hand-Off-Auto switch in the field by each motor. In the Auto position, Start/Stop and speed commands (PID loop control) will be via Ethernet. In the Hand position, the drive will be commanded to run at a fixed speed over Ethernet. The Off position will be hardwired to the Enable inputs of the drive for safety reasons. I am planning on using the existing drive profiles that are in RSLogix 5000 v15 software. Our Ethernet network equipment consist of two Cisco Catalyst 3560 Layer 3 Switches configured in a redundant manner. Does anyone have any experience/hints/tips that they may have encountered that would help me implement this configuration with a short amount of downtime to our facility. I have downloaded the Ethernet Capacity Tool from the website, and it shows plenty of bandwidth and connections available. We are a pharmacutical manuf. and our system is validated. So upgrading to v16 which has the integrated drives/Drive Executive software is not possible at this time. That would require a revalidation of the system. Thanks in advance. Dlogger ### Assistant: dlogger, trying to help you, some points to clarify: 1. No particul problems/issues on using v15 PF700 profile for Ethernet/IP (we use many times, just it is not as easy as the Premier Drive Integration from v16) 2. If you want to check the amount of traffic/use of your Ethernet/IP module in CLX, you need to consider also the RPI you expect from Flex IO and the expansion chassis; then you have to consider the amount of analog/special modules inside them and also the RPI expected. Normal way is to use 20ms RPI for all digital IO optimized in adapter image, 80 mS for analog/special card. If you want to post that infos, I will check with Ethernet/IP prediction tool for you. Anyway, as you wrote, the ENBT has many connections and bandwith available, so should not be a problem to manage your devices, unless you need particulary quick RPIs. 3. Switches should be managed to have the best performance and flexibility in configuration; you may have a look to the following technotes in Rockwell KB to clarify your ideas on them.Aid 22044 Aid 26760 Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic Fuzzy Logic is right in that it shouldn't be a problem. One of the largest benefits is not having to take your system down (controller) to schedule the network as you do with ControlNet. There are only 4 datalinks available anyway which doesn't add to much overhead. Make sure your remote racks are Rack Optimized for digital I/O as this will save connections. I have used an RPI as high as 700ms for analog inputs on slow temperature loops without any problems, simply because the system could not respond that fast. If you use v15, then you may want to use Drive Executive (drive explorer) to connect directly to the drives for setting of paramters and saving .dno config files. Also, in using Ethernet, make sure you use shielded twisted pair and not just UTP. To fuzzy logic and fordtt, Thanks for your replies. I only have one digital card in my 1756 I/O racks which is set for 10ms RPI. The digital cards on the Flex I/O is set for 100ms RPI. All Analog cards are set to 100ms RPI. We already use Drive Executive to set up our existing drives, and will continue to use that for these new drives. We specifically designed to use Ethernet for the exact reason of not having to schedule the network like you do with ControlNet. Shutting down the process is not a typical option in our facility. We run 24x7x364. Good point about the shielded cable. We currently are using UTP cable, but the runs are short and in separate conduits from all other wiring. The cabling for these drives will have to run up to our Motor Control Center room, which is a bit farther away. Thanks for the feedback. Dlogger The post remind me of one problem I have ever confronted with before.When I connect a PF700 via ENBT-backplane-DNB/A with DriveToolsSP, the devicenet goes bus off.......1791DS safety I/Os and Point I/O and the PF700 DNET adapter are on the same devicenet.I have no time to check what has happened for I have to reset the slot. But it is ok for me to connect a PF700 via ENBT-backplane-DNB/C in another application, and almost the same type devices there as above. I don't know what is wrong with it.Can anyone help me figure out why it happened? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix5000 Monitoring Gents, I am new to Logix5000 and I am trying to find a way to build an I/O list that will display the status in real time. I have seen the Monitor Tag List function but I cannot see all the elements I need to see on the same screen. This function is available in most PLC languages but I cannot find in 5000. Any suggestions? ### Assistant: Unfortunately this feature doesn't come natively in RSLogix5000.... :smileysurprised: There is a Tool in the RSLogix 5000 installation disk, Custom Data Monitor Tool; unfortunately it need a licensed version of RSLinx Classic (OPC server) to work (I see you don't love too much RSLinx... :smileywink: ) Otherwise you may use the Quick Watch feature.Click View --> Watch Highlight Quick Watch.The Quick Watch list is a list that you can configure. This list displays values for tags that you need to monitor on the fly. Unfortunately you cannot save this list in the .ACD file to be used next time you need it. (it should be in the next version 18 of the software) :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, My version (10.06) of RS5000 does not show WATCH under the view menu. I just received an upgrade CD that covers version 10.07 thru 17.00. I hope it is on there. I also have the new RSLinx Calssic Professional (ver. 2.54) to install. I will look for that utility you mentioned. Thanks for the info.. :smileyhappy: Hi, if I remember well, the Configurable Quick Watch Tag List comes with version 13.xx of RS5000. - fuzzy logic I installed the new software and it says I have versions 10.6 thru 17.0, but when I start the program it only starts with ver. 10.6. Where are the other versions, ann how do I get them to run? It seems that you cannot use the Quickwatch unless you upgrade both your program and hardware to higher version... Do you mean frimware upgrade? The programing sosftware is supposed to be the latest but the application program is 10 years old, as is the processor and the Flex drives. None of the equipment has ever been replaced of flashed and I would be hesitant to do so, given my limited experience with 5000. I wonder, though, why the programing software would not have the latest version running at start-up. Stick, When you open an old program it opens in that version. This is done for many reasons. The largest being the compatibility of your processor with the commands being using in the programming. When new versions of software are released they update commands. Old processors without a firmware upgrade, many times, are not compatible. You can update the program by saving it as a newer version. But If you are remaining on old PLC's your using. I would suggest getting local help to upgrade the firmware to the latest the PLC can handle. After that you should be safe to work around until you learn the software a bit more. And once the firmware is upgraded you will have many more tools available to you like fuzzy mentioned. Emmett, I opened a test program and found that I can envoke the other versions by putting the appropriate version number in the processor ID block. We are gettign our local distributor to come in and do the firmware updates and that should help us out. I am also trying to talk my boss into sending me on their 1 week training for 5000 but that's gonna take a thick rug... Excellent. Good luck. If you need anything we will all be here. n"}
{"text": "### Human: View ME w/RIO comm running on PC Can someone recommend what comm card I need for an application running in Factory Talk View ME on PC with RIO communication network? Are there any other tricks for this communication setup on a PC? ### Assistant: You could use the 1784-PKTXd card. Supports DH+ and RIO in a PCI slot on your computer. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1609-P3000A Output Circuit Breakers, where? Dear All, I am new to Rockwell UPS and install one for my client. The model number is 1609-P3000A and there had a Ouput Circuit Breakers as per manual, however I can't located them and my client was now asking for more information about those circuit breakers. Would anyone please tell where they are and how to use it!! Best Rgds ### Assistant: If breakers are fitted they are mounted on the back above the powercord / output plugs with easy acess to them I had solve the problem, from technical support told us that my version is 230Vac model and had not equipped with the Circuit Breakers. Those 110Vac with have the mentioned Circuit Breakers.:smileywink: n"}
{"text": "### Human: ESTOP I am on my first project using a safety controller L61S with a 1791ES safety I/OI thought I would start with the ESTOP instruction, but I can't get the output to turn on for the life of me. I configured the module as Input tab as single, safety pulse test, 0 and 1I configured the Test tab as 0 test pulse, 1 test pulse, and 2 power supply.Output tab as dual, safety pulse test. I created a tag that uses the EMERGENCY_STOP predefined data type and added it to ESTOP tagManual resetI configured alaises to the module for channel A and B inputs.I created a safety tag to reset the circuit and fault.The T lights came on T0, T1, T2 I wired a safety e-stop switch from T1 to I0 and T2 to I1The inputs come and off on in logic and on the module. No errors or red lights. I sure hope I can get some advice for this. Thanks ### Assistant: Checkout the following document from the AB literature library SAFETY-AT024A-EN-P I had to upgrade to 17.1 and reconfigure the module and the DCS function works great. Thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View Studio Tag Browser and 1746-IO12 I'm adding a Panelview Plus to a small SLC500 system that has three 1746-IO12 cards installed. When using the Tag Browser to assign a data source for an HMI tag the I/O on these cards does not show up as inputs or outputs. When running the application I get the message The data table O0:17-O0:26 in SLC at 192.168.2.30 is too small or missing. O0:17 is not one of the 1746-IO12s. Any ideas? Thanks, Scott ### Assistant: Off the top of my head ... if you are able to see the word level, but not down to the bit level, this is normal. The tag browse can't see individual bits within a word, but you can select the word level and then manually add a .0 or whatever to the end. If you can't see the IO12 card at all, then that is something else. JHutch PS I typically recommend copying I/O card data to controller tags and having the HMI read/write from there. In older HMIs this was required for consistent performance and I still think it is a good idea from a safety point of view (as a rule, I don't want anything other than my ladder code changing or reading my inputs and outputs in case its controlling something potentionally hazardous). n"}
{"text": "### Human: Graphic Design - FactoryTalk View Studio Machine Edition Hi, This is my first experience with FactoryTalk View Studio Machine Edition (version 5), so I am still gaining familiarity with the program. I am assisting in automating a grain elevator off of a panelview plus system and have been trying to design the graphics of the program. I was very disappointed in the graphic design capabilities of the FactoryTalk View Studio and was working on my own in another graphic design program I had--Xara Xtreme--but was having trouble exporting and then importing in the compatible .JPG, .BMP, .DXF, or .WMF files to FactoryTalk and maintaining a transparent background. Otherwise I have a White-block background the size of my drawing when I overlay images--such as a conveyor or grain spout. The idea is to have them appear when they are running, but I cannot have them cover the grain bin with their background. Are there other formats that FactoryTalk View Studio supports for image importing that I could work with? Moreso, my question is what do most people typically use to design their graphics? Is there another more compatible program out there? One by Rockwell Automation? Any help? Thanks!Evan B. ### Assistant: Haven't had the chance to test this (Studio is flaking out on my computer this morning), but here is what I found in the help file. Seems to indicate it should work if you set the background of your image to black. Set up how the image looks (General tab)Image back style This property applies to both monochrome and color images. Use it to set the background style to Solid or Transparent.For monochrome images, if the Image back style is set to Transparent, the background will be transparent.For color images, if the Image back style is set to Transparent, any parts of the image that are black will be transparent. JHutch Thats not true. What he is saying is when he imports an image or some other file type - transparency does not work with it. You have to mess with the background of the image by painting the white the same color of your Screen background --- It is very anoying but that is what it is. Sorry there is no way around what you are trying to do - If you had a Panelview Plus CE version you could use Symbol factory symbols but those are not cheap. Actually, I just did it in 4.0 with a color BMP. Everything that is BLACK is now transparent. n"}
{"text": "### Human: E3 Plus overload relay failures Has anyone experienced problems with E3 plus product line failures installed in 3ph 480VAC motor starters? We have the following retrofitted in older Siemens-Allis starter buckets:193-EC2AB (1-5A)193-EC2BB (3-15A)193-E22DD (5-25A)193-EC2ED (18-90A) We are seeing about a 20% failure since installation. Is there a process by which we can request a failure analysis from A-B to learn the root cause of our failure? ### Assistant: I have used E3 for a few years without any failure problems. A-B does have a Failure Analysis you can request on some products, but I'm not sure if they offer it for E3. You would need to check with your Distributor or local A-B office. We had a similar issue with high failure rates but found it was the plant ground that was floating in the plant I have been dealing with deviceNet systems for over 10 yearsThe major issues have been caused by poor installation, or 24vdc power problems ( generator supplies of 24vdc with no regulation !!!, Can fail @ 27vdc )Have a look at the  DeviceNet book of Knowledge answer ID 44883 and 15075 on the knowledgebaseThe Common Mode voltage and the 24vdc -ve to earth placement is critical for hassle free operationYou will need a osiloscope to check the can signal, nice square waves,no curved slopes. Exactly what do you consider a failure ? Do the E3's stop communicating on DeviceNet, or do the relays weld shut, or do they maintain a steady faulted condition ? I've installed and commissioned many hundreds of E3/E3+ overload relays and I've seen exactly three actual failures. Two were welded relay contacts, and one was a CAN chip failure that caused the chip to force a bus-off condition on the network. I've seen plenty of damaged units; water gets into them, metal dust and filings get into them, users plug in 120V to the +24VDC supply... the list is long in the way electronics get destroyed in the field. That's not E3 specific. What are you seeing ? How long have the devices been installed ? n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 700 Frame 5: Replacement of Heatsink Fan Hello, What is the difference between Part No. SK-G9-FAN1-F5 and SK-G9-FAN2-F5 Thanks ### Assistant: The FAN2 is the new repacement for the FAN1 Hello David9 Thanks for your reply. I have one of the old version on stock. Can i use them without hesitation or are there any improvements? THe fans would be the same size, not sure on the change, but I would check the fan transformer tap position as wellIf the 400v tap is used on 415v supply the transformer or fan can fail, also see Tech Answer note 36968 I have made a short aggregation of findings: - SK-G9-FAN2-F5 is the replacement of SK-G9-FAN1-F5.- The new Type is built with a metal blade fan in place of plastic blades.- If you have any problems with F8 heatsink overtemp, you should check the fan and the transformer- In case of transformer failure have a look at knowledgebase tech note 36968. Thanks also for support by David9 EnjoyJörg Peter n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with fluorescent lights and PLC's In the factory I work in, we had some random communication problems that were solved when we realized that the lights in the electrical enclosure were fluorescent lights. I've always installed incandescent lights in all the projects in wich a PLC is involved because flourescent could give problems to the PLC but I couldn't find any reference on the web or in any manual. The same thing applies to policarbonate transparent doors of the electrical enclosures... Can someone provide any document o literature that can confirm this urban legend? (I don't care if it's a siemens, telemecanique or omron literature) ### Assistant: Fluorescent lights typically don't cause any problems with PLC's nor do poly or lexan doors. The problem arises when you have inadequate grounding/shielding within the cabinet. Communication problems usually come from faulty installation, bad grounding practices, and just plain tywrapping the communications cable to a power conductor. Your equipment is being bombarded by RFI from a LOT of sources such as motors, drives, and two-way radios. If fluoresent lights won't cause problems in your plc anymore than the fluoresent lights interfere with your desktop computer in the office. That being said, make sure the cabinet is properly grounded and the devices WITHIN the cabinet are bonded to the cabinet as well. One trick to help isolate the PLC power is to use 24VDC power to the chassis power supply. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Challenging Drives Applications. Hey..Pls share all urs challenging drives applications? ### Assistant: Could u offer one firstly? Here's one I'm still trying to solve: I'm a bit unsure while tackling this unusual design. I appreciate any and all help. Problem: I have 2 2hp 480vac 3ph motors at 3.4A. I only have single phase input. My Solution: I chose to use pflex 40 22B-D010N104 and to derate the 10.5 amps to 35% making 3.6A accordingly. Then I want to use line reactors to filter out the mess. Using a technote from the knowledgebase (KB answer id: 46920) I calculated to use 1321-3R4-B open line reactor (4A 6.5mH) which should result around 3.7% impedance ( 3.7%=(3.6*377*(.0065*2))/480 ). Have I sized the VFD large enough?Is there any obvious mistakes in my application?Can I now add reactors to the load side as well as I would normaly do to protect the motor? I've just posted one for you. Have a look at my 1phase to 3phase welder application. Thanks n"}
{"text": "### Human: Voltage Signal drop at Powerflex700 drive Dear All, I had installed a Powerflex700 drive and the DDC system employs Voltage analog(0-10Vdc) control to vary the VFDspeed. However, when the system wiring completed and proceed to T&C, the voltage signal was dropped to 7.6Vdc when the DDC Analog output is 10Vdc. Therefore is there any solution to rectify the Voltage signal linear to scale so that my drive can run on full speed when 10Vdc control is received in Analog In 1?? Thousand Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Best Rgds.,Man ### Assistant: follow the below example.First send the maximum analog reference to the drive and look at the value in Par 016. This is the value you use in [ Analog In 1 Hi ]P320 − [Anlg In Config], bit 0 = “0” (Voltage)P090 − [Speed Ref A Sel] = “Analog In 1”P091 − [Speed Ref A Hi] = 60 HzP092 − [Speed Ref A Lo] = 0 HzP322 − [Analog In 1 Hi] = 5VP323 − [Analog In 1 Lo] = 0VThis configuration is used when the input signal is 0-5 volts. Here, minimum input (0 Volts) represents 0Hz and maximum input (5 Volts) represents 60 Hz. This allows full scale operation from a 0-5 voltsource Dear David9, Thanks for your kindly assistane, first of all, I had chek all setting as per your recommendation. There is a little bit difference between mine & your system since we running at 50Hz electricity supply. Except this item, our system employs 0-10Vdc for analog control. This is a critical situation at this stage, it was because the DDC integrator told that they will not change their AO scale, and neither to alter the AO from Voltage to Current. Therefore I study the system again and find that the protential differences across the VFD AI not reads 10Vdc due to decrease in current. A results of signal wire resistance too high, then I suggested the main contractor to re-place the signal cable with CAT5e cable. Finally, it works after the CAT5e was laid and the VFD AI can reads nearly 10Vdc when DDC AO eject 10Vdc to VFD. Thus the problem is due to electrician lack of experiences on electronic signalling works. Best Rgds.,Man n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 700 fault Hi, We have experienced a few Powerflex 700 drive - Fault 24 (Decel Inhibit) errors over the last week. The drive supplies 2 motors in parallel on a printing press reelstand. We initially changed the drive but the fault occurred again. Every time it has happened the press was running at speed but was NOT decellerating. As each motor had an encoder on it, I have now swapped to the alternate encoder in the hope that this cures the fault but after reading the handbook, I'm not sure it will. Any ideas on possible causes? I imagine the next step will be to start swapping the motors over to eliminate them. ### Assistant: Did you already take a look to the following thread ? http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=530#M530 It threats the same argument and could give you some useful infos.... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy Logic, Yeah I had looked at this thread but need to check out a few parameters to see how we shape up compared to the fans. Our problem is occurring at steady speed and not when the drive is decellerating. Coast stopping is definitely not an option. Will post when more info is gained. I have run into this problem myself, what I found was that I was getting intermittent noise on one of my encoders, of course I had to use an oscilloscope to detect this, and it took a little while but I was able to set up a trend with my oscilloscope and found the problem. I hope that this helps, this can be a hard one to locate. Thanks MrJig170v, Since I swapped over encoders, the fault hasn't occurred !! From your comments, I'll now set up an oscilloscope on the suspected encoder and see if any noise is present. Will update when further info gathered. Thanks. Hi All, Further update. After nearly 3 weeks of faultless running, the problem occurred again last night. I had a quick look at the encoder cable run, and found that the section between the plug/socket arrangement we have, to the reelstand slip rings, is definitely not what I would call encoder type cable. It appears to be a standard 6 core screened cable. I believe encoders should be run in individually screened twisted pairs, which is what the majority of the run is done in. Also the distance from the plug/socket arrangement to the reelstand slip rings, is only about 2 feet. However, whoever wired up the panel, has managed to take the route all around the houses and probably increased the length to nearer 14 feet. (Sorry about the imperial measurements!!) and probably increased the chances of noise. Watch this space. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747-PIC hi is there a driver available for the old 1747-PIC that will run on windows XP SP3 ??? ### Assistant: SP3 is not supported by Rockwell Software at the moment. For now the only cure is to uninstall Service Pack 3 and stay with SP2. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to read the string from logix 5000 to rs view 32 Dear AllI have logix 5000 and RS View 32 scada . I want to read some string from plc to rs view 32 is it posiable, then how.please help me regarding this. Thanks and Regardsshailesh ### Assistant: Hello, It is possible to read or write Controllogix String data with RsView32. You have to add ,SCxx ( xx is the lenght of your string data, by default 82 ). For example :String_Data[0],SC82 Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus communicating with Modbus/Modbus plus I am wanting to change out some of our HMI's to Panelview Plus's, I am trying to figure out if I can communicate with our processors, they are Modicon, Quantum's and the older 984's. We are currently using Modbus serial, and Modbus plusserial. Any help would be appreciated. ### Assistant: Panelview Plus can be configured as Modbus Master or Slave through the Kepserver Drivers. Take a look to the following MANUAL. there should be all what you need to know....:smileytongue: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hello, You can also use Modbus Plus but you have to add a communication card ( ref : PVIEW 50-MBP ). Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem writing to CLX string using RSLINX OPC I can't write to a controllogix string value via RSLinx OPC. I am using theRSLINX automation server com control and C ### Assistant: When you said I can't write, what are you meaning exactly?Your value isn't accepted, you get an error... ?! Just to better understand... :smileywink: Anyway, I've done a test with the OPC test client coming with RSLinx Classic, and it works fine in writing to string. See the attached screenshot... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic Thank you. I got it to work. What I wasn't doing was:-not using the .DATA[0] element.-not using the ,SC14 parameter. What does this mean? Must have somethingto do with the length.. BTW, the error I was getting was H_RESULT_FAIL and H_RESULT_TYPE_MISMATCHfrom the com object. Thanks again, Yes... Data[0] is the element from which you want to start to write, SC14 is the number of characters to write. I'm just happy that works...:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic But it is interesting that the FTGateway returns the correct data type VT_BSTR for an alarm message, but RSLinx OPC does not. RSLinx returns VT_I2 and each of the string elements. Requires a lot of monkey work to edit alarm messages. I think there are some problems with the RSLinx OPC server. KEPware provides the correct data type also. I also see this with the data/time values from RSLinx OPC. This server returns these as a data type of 20 (VT_I8) rather than 7 (VT_Date). Any one resolve these issues? without custom coding an OPC client to behave like RSLinx OPC? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet Card Address I have a large RS5000 project that uses an Ethernet card to communicate with a remote I/O and an operator's station. The address for the card is 120.0.0.119. To communicate to the system through RSLogix5000 I have to manually change the TCP/IP address on my laptop to 120.0.0.1 and then RSLinx will show the card as HostID 256. My other two system that use Ethernet (both Micrologix 1400's) have 192.168 addresses and configure automatically through RSLinx ETH-1 driver. How is the address on the Ethernet card configured, and can I change it to make integration easier? ### Assistant: stickman, If you can get to the Ethernet card with RSLinx, you can change the IP address. Open RSWho, click on the [ + ] next to the driver to show the ethernet nodes, then right-click on your 120.0.0.119 node and select Module Configuration. Pick the Port Configuration tab and change the IP address there to something that is within the subnet you want (and change the subnet mask, gateway address, name server addresses and domain name if necessary) and click Apply. (Uncheck Obtain IP Address form BootP Server if it is checked.) Your Ethernet card will change IP address and you can add it to the list of 192.168 nodes in your AB_ETH-1 driver. Be sure you are on the highest level reference to the card. If you navitgate through the card to the backplane then try to right-click on the card, the configuration option won't be available (or won't work). If you navigate to the backplane through some other card (or a logix serial port, etc.), then you can configure the card in question going across the backplane. You just can't do it by going through the card to the backplane then back to the card. You'll break any connections through the card on the old subnet, so you need to make sure you REALLY want to change the IP address! (Card can't have TWO IP addresses!) I'm assuming the card address is not configured in a running Logix 5000 application. You may need to change it there, too, in the I/O tree in the controller organizer. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: need comms between my A_B 1756 -L61 Processor & a Sentinel vibration analyzer I am installing a Sentinel II vibration management system that has very limited networking capabilities. I'm told that the only available connectivity to the Sentinel is Modbus/RS 232. I would like to connect my A-B processor and Wonderware HMI to the Sentinel processor for trending, alarming & such. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ### Assistant: HI, it depends what kind of network you have, if you already have one. For my parts i have a ethernet network, so i will use the Sentinel II on RS-232 but will add a converter (like moxa)ethernet to RS-232 et use my panelview plus and PLC also on ethernet. Thats really easy to do at cheap price, if you already have it. The converter will just create a virtual com port in the fiels communicating with a IP/Address. it depends of what you want. jsjkfjfjfd, I've had good luck with the Prosoft MVI56-MCM module (in chassis) and their Prolinx Gateway as well. These will scan the Modbus data and drop it in module registers that you can read as I/O (for the MCM) or via CIP messages (for the gateway). See http://www.prosoft-technology.com/content/view/full/621 for the MVI56-MCM. (This goes in a slot of a 1756 chassis.) See http://www.prosoft-technology.com/prosoft/products/stand_alone_gateways/serial/modbus_master_slave/ethernet_ip_to_modbus_master_slave_communication_module for the 5201-DFNT-MCM gateway. This goes on your EtherNet/IP network and just needs an ethernet connection and power (24 VDC). I've used both of these with good results. Once the data are in your Logix processor, you can grab it in Wonderware (or other HMI) just like any other controller data. For Logix v16 and later, Prosoft has Add-On Instructions you can import to support these modules. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC5 Slow Ethernet Communication Hi, We have a problem with one of our PLC 5-40/L using an ethernet sidecar. It seems to have gotten terribly slow over the last 6 months. I'm not sure if we are trying to send too much information via e-net or if there is another problem. We have another of the same PLC basically doing the same thing as this one and its much faster to send/receive messages. The only thing that has really changed is a few more items were added to the network, but our managed HP switch shows the network still has very little traffic. We do have 2 Control Logix processors continually sending/receiving data to this PLC5 but they are only small amounts (20 word write, 6 word read) I've also noticed that RS Logix is very slow to update. The online ladder is barely turning. I've tried disabling the messages from the CLx and unplugging other devices that it communicates with via e-net and this seems to have no effect. I've also tried changing cable, PLC, e-net sidecar and transceiver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ### Assistant: When you say a few more items were added to the network...what type of items? Also, since you have a managed switch, make sure IGMP Snooping is on to limit multicast messages to the local network. Also, make sure your network is manually set to 10 Mbps since the plc5 is 10Mbit only. If the other devices are default at 100Mbps there will have to be some auto-negotiation at the switch. How is the information sent/read to the plc5 from the Controllogix? Thanks for the quick reply. THe other items include a small Delta RMC-100 motion controller and 4 CLx processors. Each Control logix processors are MSG reading about 20 words, and writing 6 words to the PLC5 continuously. I suspected this to be a cause of the problem, but as i've said thats a small amount of data and we have another PLC doing the same thing with no problems at all (although its scan time is a little better..20ms). To be sure i disconnected those 2 network cables and there was no change. The scan time of the problem PLC averages about 28 ms. I have checked the switch settings and multicast filtering is enabled. The switch is set to auto negotiate for that port however it does display its status as 10Mbps. A couple other things to check. Make sure the new devices are not duplicating the IP address of the existing PLC5. The scan time of the process really won't be affected by the sidecar's communications problems to that's not a real test as to what's causing the problem. One thing you can to is set up a counter to start timeing when you set a bit true, send it in a MSG instruction to the plc5 have the plc5 turn the bit off, send it back to the controllogix. when this bit is turned off, stop the timer. You're setting up a poor-man's network analyzer to check roundtrip communications. With the small amount of data you're actually passing, it may be that you need to cache the connection to keep it open. The sidecars in the past have been very picky about the network they talk on. If there's ANY traffic they don't understand coming through, they seem to have a problem with it. I'll dig through some old docs I have and see if something jumps out. One other thing relatively new to the network is a Wonderware application talking to a different CLx, but i've eliminated that by shutting it down, noticing no improvement. I also realized that the other PLC with the same application is actually a 5/40E so perhaps it performs better than the sidecar. I will try programming what you mentioned and see what sort of response times i get. I do know that one HMI used Cimquest InGear and has a watchdog which seems to be taking almost 2 seconds to toggle. However i don't know enough about VB to see how /when they're actually toggling the bit and sending it back to the PLC. I also tried to ping the plc several times. Most avg 1ms, but i did see the odd 7ms. This bad response only seems to be the 1 PLC though, so i think i can rule out any other network issue. Thanks again for your help I tested the return rate of data as you suggested. Best case is about 180ms, but did see as high as 370ms. I also tried this same thing to one of our 5/40E processors and it was twice as fast. The max i saw with that one was about 135ms. However it does have a scan time probably close to 10ms faster. I realize that won't change the e-net comm. rate, but it will take longer to execute the logic and change the state of the bit. Although i still shouldn't see over double the length of time. Coastland,Take a look at these Tech ID's (some may be locked for certain levels of support): 17111; 15830, and 19475. Doc number 17111 points to a throttle back feature of the sidecar (or plc5 ENET modules) that if it sees too much traffic it will throttle back and possible disconnect itself for a time before talking again. Doc 19475 tells about detecting and looking at the broadcast storm counter as well. These may not help you but maybe they'll point you in some positive direction....at least you'll know what's NOT causing the problem. Thanks for your help, but apparently we didn't renew our TechConnect support this year so i don't have access to those files. I think we're going to try replacing our 1785-ENET with a Ser C instead of B. I understand they're capable of 100Mbps FDx. That would be a big improvement over our 10Mbps Half Duplex we have right now. Hopefully it will solve our problem. I would pursue the switch configuration before replacing the hardware. You might not get the performance you expect if you don't get the network configured correctly. Others have touched on the important points, so I'll just reiterate: 1. The 1785-ENET has about half the performance of a PLC-5E in terms of how fast it can access the PLC-5 memory. A 1785-ENET Series C has better network performance and a new Ethernet physical interface, as well as some improved PLC-5 memory access, but it still won't be as fast as a PLC-5E native Ethernet port. 2. The PLC-5E and 1785-ENET firmware was developed long before high volumes of multicast traffic were commonplace, and they don't filter out multicast very well. If you have a motion controller on Ethernet and the IGMP Snooping and Querying aren't set up correctly on your network, then the PLC-5E and 1785-ENET ports may be dealing with quite a lot of multicast traffic. The diagnostic process for that is very simple: configure a mirror port for the 1785-ENET's port and sniff it with Wireshark or TCPDump or any other packet capture software. If you see a lot of multicast traffic, you know that IGMP Snooping isn't set up correctly. Knowing how to set up a mirror port and use Wireshark will pay off in administering your automation network. 3. There are a lot of misconceptions about how Auto-Negotiation works on switches. Even if the switch correctly decides that the port is running at 10 Mb/s Half Duplex, if you still have Auto-Negotiate configured for the port the switch may continue to probe the port for speed and duplex, which can cause a lot of collisions. The correct way to connect a fixed speed and duplex device like an older 1785-ENET or PLC-5E or SLC-5/05 to a switch is to disable Auto-Negotiate and hard-set the switch port for 10 Mb/s Half Duplex. 4. Check the logic and application on controllers that continuously send MSG instructions to the 1785-ENET to see if they are just re-triggering the messages continuously or if time delays between messages can be used to lighten the load on the 1785-ENET. Some applications may genuinely need data as fast as you get get it but most can wait a few hundred milliseconds between messages. Thanks for the help. As soon as i figure out how to configure a mirror port and sniff it, i'll let you know how it looks. I've managed to log all the traffic on the network but have not yet figured out how to look at one specific port. If IGMP snooping is set up right and multicast traffic is not seen, would you feel a series C 1785-ENET will help speed up communication. I have also set the appropriate ports on the switch to manual 10HDx and have seen no improvement. As far as the frequency of any messages, i've already reduced a couple as much as we can afford. The others need to be as high speed as possible. This is one of the reasons i'm skeptical about controlling things over ethernet. The manufacturer of the equipment that was installed recently insisted it would be fine. It is fine as far as there equipment is concerned, but it seems to have really slowed our network. Is the recent equipment on the same network and does their equipment communicate to other PLC's other than they one they provided? Yes, each stacker is on the same network and running a Control Logix that is continuously writing 6 words and reading 20 words from the PLC5. Unfortunately the only way around this is by hard wiring between the 2. It can be done, but if there is an easier fix such as network improvements or a newer ENET sidecar we would rather try that first. There are ALWAYS options. One option is to convert your PLC5 to a remote chassis (1771-asb module) or CNET module and get rid of the PLC5 and sidecar althogether. You can keep the 1771 I/O chassis. Export the plc5 program and import it back into one of your controllogix processors. Since the plc5 stuff is beyond legacy status, you may be able to do this OR install a small 4-slot chassis with a dedicated controllogix processor and ethernet modules as a gateway. I'm in agreement with you in that such small amount of communication should not bog down the sidecar but with the newer equipment, multicast I/O, etc. you never really know what the sidecar is seeing across the network and TRYING to respond to. The more I read about this, the more I suspect that the multicast traffic isn't being constrained by the switch and it's overwhelming the 1785-ENET module. The very simplest way to check to see if a switch has been configured to constrain multicast traffic is to plug into an unused port and run Wireshark on your local Ethernet adapter. If you see UDP Multicast traffic, then the switch definitely is not constraining it correctly. This isn't a definitive test: you can only tell for certain what is reaching a particular port by using a tap, hub, or mirror port to intercept all the data headed to that port. What make and model of Ethernet switch are you using to connect to the 1785-ENET ? I did as you said....i'm not sure i'm setting up the mirror port correctly, but i don't see any multicast traffic. It's all TCP/IP or CIP. The switch is an HP Procurve 2626. If i go to configuration, then monitor, i can select the monitor port and tell it which port to monitor. If i don't do this i see almost no traffic with wireshark. As soon as i start this monitoring i see all the traffic to and from the PLC...so i would assume i'm doing it correctly. As a quick test during the last break i unplugged the cables that go to the CLx processors and it seemed to improve things slightly, but still nowhere near where i think it should be. With that done, it should be about par with the identical equipment we're running at the other side of the plant, but it certainly isn't. I may have failed to mention we have another PLC5 with sidecar running almost the same application. The only difference is physical location, and its communicating much faster It is plugged into another identical HP switch on the opposide side of the mill, although this one probably has half the number of ports used. I'm stumped....really appreciate any input. At this point i still feel i need to try the newer ENET sidecar. If that doesn't help i'll probably have to get some sort of IT person in here to check out/optimize our network. If its still no better we will have to look at putting a CLx processor in. The only reason we haven't done that yet is because we have 4 extended Local I/O racks. But i've been told if we switch them to control net and connect to a CLx chassis, we should be able to get the same update time on those racks that we're gettting now. Great information. I'm perfectly willing to be wrong in my guesses ! It's very handy to know that you have similar equipment also with a 1785-ENET, because you should be able to do a Wireshark capture on both pieces of equipment and compare the traffic. This is the sort of network performance analysis and remediation that is my speciality as an RA service engineer. You might do best getting somebody experienced with Ethernet protocol and performance analysis to examine your data captures or come onsite with more specialized equipment like the Frontline Test Equipment NetDecoder suite. If you can capture data from the slow controller and from the fast controller and post (or otherwise make available) the capture files, I or somebody else on the Forum may be able to help. I will certainly do that. I ran wireshark on the other PLC with the sidecar and as i already knew it saw a lot less traffic. I'll save a capture from each one tomorrow and attach the file here. I didn't realize i could attach files....thats great. The one thing that puzzles me is why i don't see a big improvement after unplugging a few of the high volume network users. Maybe i didn't unplug enough of them....may try a few more tomorrow. Thanks again :) Is there a way to make these files avaialble. I thought i could attach them, but i can't attach that file type. I could attach a screen capture if that will help. Unfortunately the attachment feature is not yet complete in the Forum....:smileysad: see this POST Attaching Screenshots, have the courtesy to resize them and keep a maximum width of about 500 pixels, so that it will not create troubles in reading posts for those who have some limited screen resolution. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Well it took me a few days to find the time to do this, but here are some screenshots....not sure if you can read or tell much from this though. This is a mirror of the port for the processor with the slow ethernet comms. 192.168.0.1 is the PLC. Here is the plc with the normal communications. Clearly it is communicating with a lot less devices than the other. Decided to give a Ser C ENET sidecar a try. Apparently i don't quite understand how auto negotiate works. I was thinking because this new sidecar is capable of up to 100Mbps it would communicate at that speed with the other devices on the network that are also 100, but would be limited to 10 for the one other slow device (Delta RMC-100 Motion Controller). But it seems it still limits itself to 10Mbps, i'm guessing because that is the slowest device it communicates with. So if this is so, then why do other devices (Control logix and various PC's) on the network show a connection of 100Mbps when the PLC should be limiting it all to 10Mbps. I always thought auto negotiation was done on every transmission, but now i'm just confused. Its looking more and more like another Control Logix may be necessary in the near future. Thanks again for any help. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Does PF40P suport -10V~10v? Hi, Use AB PF40P to replace Yaskawa F7 drives, Ｕser manual of PF40P said Analogue input suport +-10v, this means it supports -10V~10V? How to make it? ### Assistant: Hi there, In your manual, go to page 1-22, and have a look at the options for analog input. You will connect your analog singal wires to terminals 13 & 14, then change parameters P038 to 2 0-10V Input and A123 to 1 Bi-Polar In. This should allow you to use -10V - +10V signal input. See link... PowerFlex 40P User Manual Cheers. Thanks. The customer wants to use this anlaog input as speed reference and the customer do as what the user manue tell to do. The negative analog input can get reverse direction, and the positive analog input can get forward direction. But the customer told me the result only get forward direction. How can I help the custonmer realize this? Hi,Drive guy, Thank you. I do the experiment as what the usermanual tell to do? That's OK. Maybe, the customer hass something wrong with his wires. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 4M Programming Power Greetings Drive World, Does anyone know whether or not it is possible to connect an external power supply to the PF 4M to provide programming power to the drive without powering up the entire drive? Apparently some of the competition to this drive can be powered up in a single phase format to allow for parameter programming, but not operation. Thank you. ### Assistant: A long time ago you could just power up the middle phase and it would work but not on today's drives. The drive has to be powered up to run the HIM but if you're using a 22-Comm-x (C, D, E) moduel, then there is a small box you can purchase from AB that allows you to externally power the moduel but for programming the drive...it has to be connected normally in order to power up the drive electronics, unless there's some AB wizard with a tip we don't know about. I've needed to do just what you're talking about many times in the past so I finally rigged up a 480/120 transformer, fed it in reverse, and then did what I had to do. Again, seems there could be a small 24VDC connector for allowing this to happen BUT....that would be taking too much for granted. n"}
{"text": "### Human: request new account for 'http://www.software. rockwell. com/ extranet ' request new account: after i register,my account cannot sign in.it takes so long time to approve my request! ### Assistant: Sorry, but I can't help with that website. You'll need to use the contact us link at the bottom of the page to submit a trouble ticket with those folks. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1791DS-IB8XOBV4 Drawings Are they available? The config and section tools doesn't have a template. ### Assistant: So I'm leaning toward 'no' in this instance. I don't see any ... but you might get further by contacting the tech support engineers. Try chat from 8-5 EST or use Ask a Question to submit an email query. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: File missing after Patch Rollup install I installed the SE Patch Rollup from June 2009. The validator ran and showed a green check mark. Then I looked at the patch file validator log and it shows that VPGraphicsED.dll is missing. I looked at two other computers and found the same situation on both. The missing file is part of RAid61545. Why isn't the file there? Is it a new file that was introduced with the patch or was there a problem with my original installation of SE? I think I've read that files only get coppied if there is a version already there How can an automatic patch install ever work if it's installing a file that wasn't there already? Does this particular file always need to be installed manually? Do I need to check the validator log EVERY time I install any patch rollup to verify that nothing is missing? ### Assistant: I wasn't able to find anything specifically on this (though I admit my expertise is limited here). I recommend create an Ask a Question case in the Knowledge (soon to change it's name to Submit a Question, in case you read this after the change) and the product group can do some more in depth testing to find out what is going on. JHutch Thanks, I'll do that. Edit: Well, they don't make it easy. I tried a few part number searches on the Ask a Question page and finally got something for SE 5.0. Now, where do I find the revision number of my software so I can select the correct one from the list? It looks like we installed FT View SE from our Toolkit disks. Any of the SE versions will work. We're working on a better way to handle that page, but it's slow going (we've got more part numbers than I think anyone realized). All of the SE stuff gets routed to the same support group regardless of revision. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 5000 logic for a leading edge sensor for registration mark Ok, so I am one of the sick people that use the Ultra 5000, it fit the budget and the project design. I was wondering if anybody has any better logic than this for a registration sensor. The sensor starts off blocked, clears between parts, and then I want to start a function when the next part comes into position (i'm using it as a registration offset for a labeler). This is the code I'm using right now: while ((!InputGetState(2)) && (TimerDone(1)==0)) { pe4=0; } while((InputGetState(2)) && (TimerDone(1)==0)) { pe4=1; } while((!InputGetState(2)) && pe4==1 && (TimerDone(1)==0)) Just wondering if anybody has any better way to do it that isn't as verbose. Thanks ### Assistant: Can I assume from this logic that the final step to break out of these while loops is the Timer1 going done? Why aren't you utilizing the LatchOnIndex command? You apparently don't need the motor feedback from the latch but it would provide you with a function that operated automatically. In this example you check that the count has increased on the latch then store it in memory in case you want to run an operation off that memory with TriggerShot. if(LatchGetCount(1)!=CountBuffer && TriggerShot==0) { TriggerShot=1; CountBuffer=LatchGetCount(3); } if(TriggerShot==1 && TimerDone(1)==0) function_call(); I don't know your exact use case, but this is just another way to tackle it. I've got this running on many machines right now and we don't have any issues with the timing. I'm just concerned with all of your while statements that the code will be trapped in there and unable to run any error handling routines elsewhere in the code. It worked with the way I had it, but I changed it over to more resemble your example since I hadn't even thought about it getting trapped in a loop. Guess that happens when you are programming at 2 in the morning trying to get a machine back up and running after changing out old hardware. Thanks again. n"}
{"text": "### Human: BTR from ControlLogix to 1394 IMC on RemoteIO In my never ending quest to replace a PLC5 with a ControlLogix processor I have run onto one final comm problem... Block Transfers between the processor and a 1394 IMC servo. The PLC 5 works just fine but I can not seem to get the CL to work. The processor sees the device on the RemoteIO network because there is no IO error. However, when I do a BTR of 19 bytes it just sits there and when I change the processor to program mode the MSG.ER bit is set with the error Map instance undefined; or Block Transfer timeout My MSG logic is correct becasue I am using the same logic as the other BTRs I am doing (enable the message when the message enable bit is not set. Thanks in advance... Chris ### Assistant: Following some suggestions: At first, try (unless already done) to run only the BTR that fails...if it will work, then be sure you will not execute the BTW and BTR to the same rack/group as this can cause block transfers to at least occasionally error out.So, enable the message when the BTR enable is not set and also when BTW enable is not set. Other things to check are:Double check msg path and rack/group/slot if they are correct.Double check if the number of elements you are using are correct for you 1394. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic This is a long shot, may not be of any use. The native word length of the PLC5 and SLC is 16 bit integers. Off the top of my head, I can't remember what the native word length of a BTR / BTW is - it may well be bytes (8 bits) as these come from the days when PLC's were 8 bits. It may be worth checking what the word length is for your block of data ( Byte, SINT, INT etc).Following on from what Fuzzy stated, double check the data - in particular word length for being correct. It may well be that the 1394 end is expecting to see data data elements that correspond to things like N7:00 etc (any PLC5 / SLC500 N integer table) and you may have to use the data mapping in RSLogix to emulate the legacy data tables? - this is just a guess, you had to do this with 'classic' panelviews and ControlLogix to enable data transfers when legacy stuff didn't know how to handle tags. Using RIO 1394's with the BT's is also going back some time, and maybe your never ending quest is to upgrade the 1394 too with Kinetix at some point? Not sure how much longer you will be able to get service on the 1394, but it may be beneficial now to upgrade that as well as the PLC - the motion controller is now all in the ControlLogix. Failing that, you could go for a Sercos 1394 as a go between on the upgrade path? I do know the getting the messaging addressing can be a pain in the butt and a bit confusing at times. I can't remember the technote id, but there is one out there for how to set up the addressing as far as what port to use for what and the r:g:s structure for the messaging. We are doing a similar upgrade to CL, but we are removing the S-class controller which outputs -10/+10 VDC signal to the 1394 amplifier and are using a 1756-M02AE card to provide the signal for the amplifier. The 1394 has encoder replication ports for the motors and these ports are connected to the encoder terminals on the 1756-M02AE card. Just another idea if the transfers continue to be a problem(though at this point it would be throwing more money at it for you) but a way to get around it. Actually, I gave up a while ago on talking to the servos. This was the final straw in replacing a system that had always been a problem. I just got done installing a system that uses (4) 1/4 HP gearmotors and (4) PowerFlex4M drives with a bot of Flex IO. The servo system was so over engineered. This new system works great. And, I can fix it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Message (Read/Write) between MX1100 and Compactlogix L32E Help I would like to send data (read and write) between a micrologix MX1100 and a compactlogix L32E. Can anyone provide me with an example on how I can do this or point me to where I can find examples? Thanks ### Assistant: See knowledgebase answer id 33161 Thank you n"}
{"text": "### Human: The maximun number of PID in Contrologix Please advise the maximun number of PID in controllogix ### Assistant: RiverVN, The number of PID loops you can control depends entirely on how fast you want to scan them and how much memory you have in your controller. For very fast flow/position loops, you might only do a few or a few dozen. For slow temperature loops that are only scanned once every few seconds, you might do a few hundred. For the time associated with the PID and PIDE instructions themselves, refer to Publication 1756-RM087E-EN-E (5/2005 or later), the Logix 5000 Controllers Execution Time and Memory Use Reference Manual. This publication is available from the online literature library, or if you installed the online books, open RSLogix 5000 and click Help | Online Books and go to the Instructions page. Please understand that you will need additional logic for your application to support the PID or PIDE instruction -- I'd allow at least as much memory and execution time for the support logic as for the algorithms themselves. Also check out Publication 1756-RM006E-EN-P (7/2008 or later) for more information on the process control (function block diagram) instruction set, especially the PIDE instruction, and Publication 1756-RM003K-EN-P (7/2008 or later) for general instruction set information. PID is in Chapter 13. The number of loops you can control also depends on the controller you select. A 1756-L55 (rev 16 or earlier) will control fewer loops than a 1756-L61/L62/L63/L64, just because it is a slower processor. If you have a redundant controller configuration, a fair chunk of controller time is spent updating the backup controller, so the number of loops you can control in this configuration is also less. In a non-redundant L63 with an assortment of loop update times, you should be able to get up to about 50 loops or more, depending on how much else (two-state valves, motors, interlocks, sequences, phases, etc. etc. etc.) you have to control. This would be for a system which is predominantly continuous control. My experience is more with procedural control (batching, bioreactors, mixers, etc.), where most of the control is the assorted solenoid valves, pumps, etc. I might only have a dozen loops in the controller, but that's only because the process is mostly other sorts of control. Short answer: it depends on how fast the loops are, what controller you buy, is it redundant, what else is being controlled, etc. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ As I know, some PLC of Siemens, OPTO 22 have limitation about number of PID. So, Do Rockwell also have this limitation ? No limitations. Only memory size and how you optimize your programs scans for the best performance. Slow temperature loops can be executed every 1-2 seconds without affecting anything while fast flow loops every 100ms if you want. As long as you allow enough headroom in your memory for your processor to allow for online editing. I just recently finished a project that had about 125 PID loops in an L63 processor....works just fine. Do you have any Rockwell documents to prove this  No limitation ? We need it to show for our customer. Thanks in advance No I don't and I don't thnk you'll find any simply because the PID or PIDE instruction is just that....an instruction. It holds as true as any other instruction. How many MOV instructions can you have? Again, it's based on memory of the controller. Having said that, you can bog down a processor by not running them in a periodic task or by not setting the priority of the periodic tasks. How you program the instructions is more important than how many you can have. The fast loops are usually executed faster and the slower loops (usually temperature) are executed only every so often so the processor loading is minimized eventhough the memory may be at 50%. There is a document about memory and execution times for each instruction which used to be 1756-RM087E-EN-E so you might want to search for the latest version. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using replacement tags and using OPC for a source I am starting my first Panelview project. I have been struggling to figure out two things. 1. How can I make the Panelview1000+ use the RSLinx Gateway server(s) in my system for it's data source? 2. Can someone give me a step by step method to take a numeric variable and make it change tags based on pressing a button. i.e. one large display that chnaged its source based on which button is pressed. I cant figure out the tag substitution technmique ### Assistant: Hello, PanelView + is not working with RsLinx Gateway but RsLinx Enterprise.Be sure that you have installed RsLinx Enterprise on your PC. Regards. Not entirely true. You can use RSLinx Classic OPC data sources, but it can't connect to a remote OPC data server running on a computer somewhere else. For the most part, RSLinx Enterprise is going to get to the data just as well and probably better. JHutch Here is where I am getting lost, Once the display is developed the PV gets its own data all by itself right? They why is it necessary to install enterprise on my PC when I develop the panel? Because Studio has to use RSLinx Enterprise to get the list of tags from the processor for development. Also, before you download your finished app to the PV+, you have to test run the app to make sure it actually works. And the computer needs RSLE to get data from the processor. JHutch But I have Classic (professional) on my machine already so I would think that it could have used that. Alas perhaps it could but this is my first foray and I havent even gotten my FT activations to work yet so I know very little at this point .... It could use Classic on your computer ... but then it would need to use Classic OPC comms on the PV+. If you use RSLE on the PV+, you need to use RSLE on the PC. And in almost every case, RSLE is just going to flat out work better for Machine Edition. JHutch OK, I'll stop resisting. Thanks for the answers No problem. (And resistance is futile.) --JHutch lol. I'm feeling like a red shirt today ;) Can you perhaps explain the other part of my question in regards to a step by step method to take a numeric variable and make it change tags based on pressing a button. i.e. one large display that changes its source (tank 1, Tank 2 etc)based on which button is pressed. I cant figure out the tag substitution technique or even if there is one. Sounds like you're trying to do parameters. The help file has lots of good info. Basically, you set up a parameter file that has things like: #1 = ::{slc}n7:0#2 = ::{slc}n7:1... Then, in the display, instead of putting a tag in a numeric display, you'll put #1. Then, when you hit a goto screen button, you'll have a parameter file specified and the system will automatically replace the #1 with what is in THAT parameter file. For each set of tags, you have another parameter file and a different goto button. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC5, ST using IF THEN with arithmatic I have a structured text section than I am using to determine if an address is within certain bounds. I want to determine if the address is between another address +/- 0.5. IF (B39:6/1 AND (F37:4 > (F18:40 - 0.5)) AND (F37:4 < (F18:40 + 0.5))) OR (B39:6/4 AND (F37:4 > (F18:45 - 0.5)) AND (F37:4 < (F18:45 + 0.5))) THEN B39:17/10 := 1;ELSE B39:17/10 := 0;END_IF;I do not belive any of the IF statements evaluate to be TRUE. My question is does structured text support the addition and subtraction I am performing in the comparisons? Thanks, Shane Nieukirk ### Assistant: IF (Bit_1 AND (Float_1 > (Float_2 - 0.5)) AND (Float_1 < (Float_2 + 0.5))) OR (Bit_2 AND (Float_1 > (Float_3 - 0.5)) AND (Float_1 < (Float_3 + 0.5))) THEN Out_1 := 1;ELSE Out_1 := 0;END_IF; The logic is sound; it works in a CLX, I don't know if PLC5 handles ST differently. I guess, the simplest question would be, do you have a JSR in LAD 0 with no preconditions? You are correct. My issue wasn't anything in my Structured Text section. I had separated the math into another section of the ST section. When I did this, I discovered that F18:0 + 0.5 wasn't being updated. It was at that point I realized I failed to add a JSR instruction when I added the ST section! At least, I won't make that mistake for a while... ;D If I had a penny for each time I've done that... I usually say it like this: At least, I won't make that mistake for a while... until the next time I make that mistake! ;) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlNet and RSLogix5000 Hi GuysWe have the following setupController 1756-L1 and two controlNet interface module 1756-CNB(CNBR).We have used Y tap that is channel A and channel B.The turbine is running now.But one controllNEt module flashes RED LED of channel A and The second One flashes Chanel B.Now i want to ask if physiacl conditions are good that is no I/O module and ANCR is faulty what steps i taken to resolve this fault and How i check the control net modules ? if The controll net version 1.5 download again what steps i taken and what effect on the controller?actually i want to complete steps to load the controllnet and then programe to the controller?Our programe build in RSLOGIX version 10.0.Please help me in this issu?with regardsAhmad ### Assistant: Ahmad, I'm not sure what you mean by a Y tap that is Channel A and Channel B. The 1756-CNBR is used for a redundant media ControlNet network (CNet). In a redundant media CNet, there are basically two complete, and completely separate, ControlNet physical networks (cables, taps, etc.) One set of cables, taps and terminators connects the A ports of all the nodes, and the other set of cables, taps and terminators connects all the B ports. There should be NO physical/electrical connection whatsoever between the A network and the B network. The indicators you describe seem to indicate that you have a connection between your redundant networks. If you are NOT building a redundant CNet, then ONLY use the A ports on the CNBRs and be sure to configure them for A port only in RSNetworx. Let us know if you are trying to build a single media network or a redundant network. Then we can offer some diagrams, pictures, etc., to help you on your way. Refer to publication CNET-IN002A-EN-P for more information. On ab.com, select Literature Library, then open up Networks and under ControlNet, select Physical Media and Tools. The pub you want is the first document listed. You can also get the manual for the 1756-CNBR (search by catalog number). Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Header go when I use pcAnywhere Hello everybody! I give remote support to some customers, but I have a little problem. When I connect my station to the customers station the header of the application - which is running withFactoryTalk View 5 and Windows XP Professional SP2 - is out, just the header. Has anybody an idea? Should I change a parameter on the system or maybe the display settings? Any suggestion? I would be very delighted to hear from somebody soon. Kind regards, Yari ### Assistant: Don't really understand what you mean by a header missing. Any chance you could take screen shots to illustrate what you are seeing? JHutch Hello!!! Maybe I need to explain a little more. When I develop an application for the HMI I usually make two parts: the header and the body. So, if I give support to the customer, just the header go out, why? Any suggestion? In advance thanks and I would be very delighted to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Yari My guess (and it's only a guess) is that PCAnywhere is treating each window as a separate app and only sending one app through. I've never used PCAnywhere (well, not for about a decade anyway) ... Is there an option to share the whole desktop screen? Maybe try another sharing app like VNC or Webex? (I've used both of them and they work, but may have trouble punching through a firewall) JHutch Thanks JHutch for your quickly answer. I am using pcAnywhere because we don't have any access to the station via IP, therefore I am using a modem with pcAnywhere. Well, anyway thanks for you help. Yari Hello, Check your screen size on your local PC.If it's not the same resolution, the header may be overwritten and only the main screen will be still available ( it's true if you are using pixel size for your header screen ). You can prevent this by using docking screen. Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ME and SE Can anyone tell me when AB decided to create SE why didn't they start with the ME software which is pretty good. Next can ME run on a PC. ### Assistant: Hello, You can run ME Runtime ( *.MER ) on a PC instead of PanelView Plus.You have to buy an activation for the runtime. Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix5000 Notes Field Is there a place to log revision notes in a ControlLogix 5000 application file? Something other than a note attached to a logic rung. ### Assistant: Tomonza, There's not a dedicated place that I'm aware of, like there is in RSLogix5 and RSLogix500. You could establish a convention and use, say, the Description field in the Controller Properties, or establish a Controller-scoped STRING tag ( _00_RevisionDescription ) for a short description. But it would be your convention and not a standard place. Maybe Fuzzy or Ken knows something I don't and can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong....... But I've been using RSLogix5000 since version 8.02 (and probably earlier). I tend to mark revision history on individual programs or routines (and now AOIs) using header rung comments (a full code header, usually 20 to 30 lines of text) rather than the entire application, so it hasn't been a huge shortcoming for how I do things. But I understand that people use and like (and standardize procedures based on) the feature on RSLogix5 and RSLogix500. I'm guessing this has been a low-priority item on the RSLogix5000 enhancement list for a long time.... Dale, W8ABZ We have used a dummy routine with the title REVNotes where all the revision information is stored and we've also used the first rung of any routine for changes. There is a description field under Controller Properties that you can add some descriptive text but putting it in the logic assures it goes with the logic and it's usually printed out. Rockwells AssetCentre is usually pushed as an option to log all activity, changes, etc with equipment. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756OB16E Output pulsing I have a 1756OB16E card that has an output pulsing. I have searched the program and it is not being controlled by anything else, yet it still is running at a relatively high frequency pulse. I can force it on with no change. I have put it in a rung with other outputs and it still pulses. I changed the aliased to a different output and then that one will pulse, but when I put them in the same rung, the origial output (zero) will pulse. This card is electronically fused so I have isolated it from the system with the same results so it is not an excessive load. I have changed the card, with the same results. I have limited room in this cabinet and this is my last available output, and I could really use it to complete the project I have been handed. Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks,Glenn ### Assistant: Still sounds like a code issue to me since it moved to a different output when you changed the alias. Check to see if you have any FLL, COPY, or mask instructions that could be writing to a whole module. Also, cross reference the actual I/O point, not the alias, to see if anyone else may have used this in the logic instead of the alias. the output information is use somewhere else. Just make a cross reference directly on the output configuration. You will see. The fuse isn't tripping and you have logic that resets it do you? Does your project have multiple Tasks, Programs, Routines etc.? If so, try temporarily inhibiting other Tasks or unscheduling other Programs, and blocking JSRs to other Routines in the same Program and see if any of those actions cause the pulse to stop. Working your way down the resource/execution tree, you can localize what is interfering, if in fact it is code. Your statement about forcing the output wasn't quite clear: did you say that forcing the output (and enabling forces, of course) had the output continuing to pulse? If so, then it's unlikely it's the code. I'd suspect some kind of communication connect/disconnect cycle. Do you have multiple controllers trying to access this card, possibly one over a network? (The card can have only one controller owning its configuration and output data.) Is there a MSG instruction somewhere misdirected to the slot containing this output card? If you navigate to the card in the I/O Config tree online and open up the config dialog for the card, what is the comm status? (It should ALWAYS be Running.) Is this card being connected direct somehow in a remote chassis when that remote chassis already has a rack-optimized connection? Not sure how you would get that configuration to verify, but check it out. What version of RSLogix 5000 software? What controller cat. no. and firmware rev? What I/O card series and firmware level? What kind of connection and what RPI? In the cross-reference tool, enter the overall card address for the output structure ( like Local:4:O ) and see if there are any other references that could touch that bit. Same for the configuration structure ( Local:4:C ). Check for any COP (copy) instruction that is walking off the end of its destination tag, possibly into memory used for I/O comms. Any COP with a number of elements greater than 1 should be suspect. I hope one of these ideas helps!!! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micro Logic 1500 Error Code 4H See Photo For error. I assume this means the rom is going bad on this processor. Does the Micro Logic have a removable rom chip or do I need a new unit? If this is not the cause of my error any help would be grateful. ### Assistant: Unfortunately this is related to a memory corruption. Try the following to recover: Cycle power on your unit.Download your program and re-initialize any necessary data.Start up your system.Change the eeprom( if applicable). If the above does not fix the issue, then replace the Controller; there isn't a removable chip.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: The replacement for motor H6200-0-H00AA and servo drive 1398-PDM-075 We are using motor H6200-0-H00AA with servo drive 1398-PDM-075 . Please help us to advise the replacement for them. ### Assistant: Are you looking for exact replacements; as in spare parts or removing them completely?If you want to remove them completely and replace with new products, the Controllogix Kinetix motion would be the way to go. But none of the existing system, hardware or software, can be reused.For spares of the H series motor, check out the web site for Elwood-Getty at:http://www.elwood.com/gettys_rockwell.shtml n"}
{"text": "### Human: Single phase to Three phase drives for welder application Greetings, Has anyone every done an application involving a 1phase to 3phase drive application to provide power to welding equipment? I just took a call from a customer for 5 such units. Thanks. ### Assistant: Futher to my question; we are looking at adding a sine wave filter to the output of the drive to provide the cleanest possible power output to the welding machine. Is there anything else that I should be nervous of? Thanks I'm assuming it's an AC welder since you're looking at a since wave filter....however, the sine wave filter usually tries to clean up the sine wave and since the waveform coming out of the drive is PWM, I would think your sine wave filter probably won't work. The PWM since wave is actually tiny pulses riding on a carrier frequency (usually about 4kHz). I've never heard of using a drive for a welding application. I've had similar requests in the past to use a single phase drive to act as a 1-phase to 3-phase power converter. Usually I would recommend them to use a device called a Rotary Phase Converter instead as this is specifically designed to use a 1-phase supply and output 3-phase power. I could see many problems with trying to use a drive for this application. For instance if this is a transformer type welder think about the inrush to the transformer on start-up. This would usually be in the order of 12 times rated current but has been known to be as high as 50 times. You would have to size the drive to handle this peak current otherwise the drive will either trip instantly on an overcurrent or worse blow the IGBTs. Using the ramp function of the drive would probably also cause problems as the control gear in the welder itself will be designed specifically for 50/60Hz and therefore could be damaged by trying to soft start the welder by varying the frequency. I hope this is the sort of information you were after. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Main Contactor Fault F10 Powerflex DC I inherited a machine that has a couple of powerflex DC drives on it, I love them, but I keep having a problem, I keep getting fault F 10, Main Contactor, I have been in the manual and everything seems fine, I also updated my firmware in the drives. My question is do I even need the contactor on the output side of the drive, in the manual I see where you can set parameter 1391 {control contactor} to none. I am not using dynamic braking. Also when my estop circuit is tripped I am loosing the enable to the drive, so I do not see why I have to use an external contactor. ### Assistant: Hi, if you don't use a Contactor (param. 1391 set to NONE) then check the following. When a contactor is NOT used: 1. Set parameter 1391 [ContactorControl] to “None”2. Do NOT set either [Relay Out x Sel] parameter to “Contactor” or ContactorDB” 3. Do NOT set any [Digital Inx Sel] parameter to “Contactor” Param. 140 (Digital In 8) is configured to Contactor by default :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Here is my question-we use the external DC contactor feeding the Armature, we had a problem where the drive was stuck in an Initializing phase and would not stop using external commands-I have since wired the motor control with the e-stop dropping out the DC contactor-thereby ensuring the motor will stop-my only problem is that if the e-stop is used while the motor is running-the drive faults -displaying the Main Contactor fault-which then needs to be reset. I also dis-able the Start command to the drive at the same time-my question is this-is there a way to drop out the contactor without getting the drive fault ??? According to what I know about the drives, this is what is supposed to happen, as far as I know there is no way to use a contactor in this manner and not get the fault when this happens. I use a reset circuit along with my estop circuit to clear any faults that might have occured during a estop, it seems to be working pretty well. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1734-AENT/A Rev. 3.1 not showing up to select I have a 1734-AENT/A Rev. 3.1 module but in the module selection of the RSlogix5000 v.17.0, I only get to select a major revision of 2. I have downloaded the latest EDS file and firmware zip file from the software sight. I have used the RSLinx EDS Hardware installation tool and have added the eds file successfully, but even from a scratch v17.0 RSLogix5000 program does not allow me to select anything above 2.0. How do I get the software to allow me to select 3.x for the module. ### Assistant: Hello, If the version of the pointIO is not shown on RsLogix 5000, it means that you have to add the profile of this module.Go to this web site link :http://support.rockwellautomation.com/controlflash/LogixProfiler.asp You will find the version 3 of the 1734-AENT. Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Need 1068... serial number for Emulate 5 I am trying to install RSLogix Emulate 5 from the Revs 10 DVD 2. I get a screen that asks for User Name, Organization and 10 digit serial number starting with 1068... If I have the Educational Toolkit and Emulate 5 is supposed to be supported, why do I need a serial number? and if I do where can I find it? My Toolkit serial number starts with 2329... ### Assistant: The Organization / User Name / Serial Number check during installation is solely to populate the Help -> About  screen and perform a casual check on the software serial number by verifying that the first four digits you enter are valid for the product serial number. The next six digits are not examined; they can be 123456 or 000000 or anything else. Try 1068000001 and see if the software will install with that. n"}
{"text": "### Human: devicenet can anyone explain how to do manual mapping as well as on auot mapping in devicenet communication. Thank you ### Assistant: I suggest to read the following technotes, as well as the Online Help in RSNetworx software. Aid 22309 Aid 51686 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RsView32 Is it posssible for RSview32 to send an e-mail?I thought it would have been under the set-up of alarms, but I am not finding it? I also thought I might beable to create an action under Events? ### Assistant: RSView32 uses Messenger extension to announces alarms and simple reports through pagers, faxes, e-mail, telephones, cell phones... It is available in the Extensions CD of your software, or are downloadable from Utilities and Downloads.Select category : downloads. Select Subcategory :Resource Kits. Select Product : RSView Family.Just be aware the Resource Kit version that should be installed needs to match the CPR release of RSView32. :smileysurprised: See also the Getting Results guide. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SERCOS IDN Messaging Can anyone provide a list of IDNs that can be read/written to Kinetix 6000?The configuration dialog for the MSG requires a 'Identification Number:' and 'Element:'. I cannot find these values documented. As a specific case, I am trying to read/write the bus capacitance parameter (parameter 591 in Drive Executive). I was told by tech support that this was id P-0-99, which is fine, but where can I get the rest of this magic list? ### Assistant: Here a link to the Sercos site, with a short description of IDN. http://www.sercos.com/technology/sercos_idns.htm Be aware, All SERCOS interface products must incorporate a subset of these, but do not necessarily need to include all IDNs. The following KB note explains this Sercos Messaging is not supported by RA phone support. Aid 50716 Anyway, a manual with a list of standard IDNs may be found HERE....it is NOT related to Kinetix 6000 I can't find out a list of the IDNs supported in Kinetix 6000, so I think the best way is to test it on a *real* drive... - fuzzy logic may be its too late, but for those looking the same topic look here http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/m08seg-wp001_-en-p.pdf thanks atahualpa, very useful document. I have still not been able to find a master list, but now that I have had my hands on a real drive for a bit, I can add this:bus capacitance is not P591, but P599with that correction, seems that you can read parameters 500+ by setting the message configuration to P-0-xxx where xxx is the parameter number you want plus 500. I didn't test higher than parameter 99 though. Thanks to atahualpa for pointing to this useful resource :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Password Protect an input or screen I am needing to be able to use a password on a numeric input so that only a supervisor can change the value, I don't know if you can do this on just one item on the screen or if you have to make a maintenance screen with a password to get to the screen. Thanks ### Assistant: Hello, Generaly, I used a numeric display and an numeric input hide behind.so you can use the visibility function on the numeric input item.Just configure it by using an expression -> Function -> Security -> CurrentUserHasCode ( security letter ). You will be able to use the numeric input only if you are logged with the correct security level.Just create a Login button on your application to change the current account in use. Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix Ver 17, PF 70 EC, Creating new Data Base not functioning correctly on one laptop Cannot get the create new data base to function on one laptop correctly.Appears to connect to drive, and pull data from drive, but after it has completed, same message.Also if trying to use tag from this drive, (with this laptop) errors occur.What you think? ### Assistant: It would be useful to post the exact error messages you get, or add a screenshot of it. This will allow users to best try to help you on the issue. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I had a similiar problem on one of my laptops and it was due to a failed install of a DriveTools SP /Drive AOP Database files update. There were a couple of files that were there but had a file size of 1kb instead of around 125kb like the others. I re-installed the database files and then check the file sizes and it seemed to install correctly the second time. The files are located in C:Program FilesRockwell AutomationCommonComponentsB_0001 and the subdirectories below. These are the database files that RSLogix5000 uses for reading drive parameters. Hopefully this may point you in the right direction. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView ME - Device Pop-up with description display I am using RSView ME version 5.00 build number 55. I've created a Hand Off Auto pop-up that will control individual devices when you click on them. I've been able to use a parameter file to pass the tags for the buttons in, but have been unable to display a description. I do not want to have to store all of these descriptions in the PLC, so I wanted to store these strings in the parameter file for that device. How do I pass a string into my pop-up at the same time I pass in the tags for my buttons. Brian Westbrook Systems Programmer Malisko Engineering Inc.bwestbrook@malisko.com ### Assistant: Hmm, no can't pass a description (i.e., text) as a parameter. But you could create a memory tag in ME, populate it with the text description and then call a different memory tag via parameters. JHutch Create a text field on your pop up with this /*LS:0 #4*/ as the text. Now when you call your parameter file have #4 = to your desired description. n"}
{"text": "### Human: communication problem with ml 1500 I have more MicroLogix 1500 LRP PLC and the wanted to make them together that they can communicate (DF1 half duplex, DH 485). Can there any examples or scripts with examples of wiring and settings of the PLC. I will establish communication between PLC's and PC's, but multiple PLC's and PC's no way. Gave me someone can help. ### Assistant: Hi graciano, there are useful examples of connection between multiple Mx 1500 in the User Manual, chapter 4. For example, a DH-485 network allow you to connect up to 31 nodes together, exchanging messages and communicating with PCs.You may realize this using an adapter (1761-NET-AIC) connected to every PLC (using its comm port), and then wiring all the adapters together using a shielded cable. Another solution is to use an Ethernet to serial adapter (1761-NET-ENI) also connected to the serial port of every controller, and then one or more Ethernet switches to connect them together. Both solutions can then allow you to exchange datas using Message instructions. See chapter 21 of Reference Manual to understand how they work. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory talk view 5.0- Display list selector properties I want to use display list selector and from that I want to read information about which screen or display is selected.I look into old program developed in V4.0 where control list properties shows me CONNECTION tab but when I use control list selector in V5.00 CPR9 I am unable to get option Connection. I don't know where I am wrong. Is there any other way to get screen selection information into PLC. ### Assistant: It isn't possible to have the Display List selector to set a tag with the selected state, the Connection tab isn't available in that object...:smileysad: If you want to read in the PLC which is the active display, usually this can be realized configuring a tag in the Global Connections, Display tab, Display Number field... the plc will *receive* in that tag the current display number you've configured in the Display Properties Otherwise, you can emulate this by implementing Startup and Shutdown Macros for each display, and allow the macros to update a plc tag with unique values. This works for Replace displays and On-Top displays. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The “Display List Selector” does not uses a connection tab the screen selection is configured from the “States Tab”. 1) Select the state you what to edit2) Select the display and parameter file. Hope this helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Documentation explanation Hello, Here is a copy of the PowerFlex 4 and 40 Technical Data.All communications looks to be present for the PF40, is that true ?I want to use a Modbus RTU link, is it possible without an additionnal board ? Many thanks. Serge. ### Assistant: Yes, this is true; see also this LINK for more infos. All the PF4x drives can be controlled through a Modbus RTU link,using the Integral RS-485 port, without additional boards (and costs! :smileytongue: ) See appendix C of the User Manual for supported Modbus functions and connections. You may also find some infos and hints in the Knowledgebase (for example in Aid 27558) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Password Protect Access to RSLogix 5000 Programming Logix 500 has a means to prevent access to viewing/changing the ladder. Does Logix5000 have a similar feature. ### Assistant: Basically you have two types of security for Logix5000 controllers: Logix CPU Security tool The Logix CPU Security tool was created to protect the controller from unauthorized usage. A single supplied password Secures or Unsecures the controller. Once secured, this tool prevents RSLogix 5000 software from being able to go on-line with the controller. (Routine/AOI) Source Protection Tool The RSLogix 5000 Source Protection Tool (a.k.a. OEM Lock) allows you to password protect your Routines and Add-on Instructions (AOI) with a source key. Aid 8378 explains these and other security features available (it is a Tech Connect contract Users reserved doc.)See also the dedicated Programming Manual. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS 5000 Emulate Hello all, this is my first post. I created a project in the RS logix 5000 platform, and the controller is shipped to the customer. I was curious if there was a way to emulate a project that I already created? I was successful doing this with a 500 project, but when I tried the same attempt in 5000, It gave me many errors, basically I had to create a new list of tags. Any help would be great. ### Assistant: Of course you may do this using RSLogix Emulate 5000... are you trying to emulate a project done for CompactLogix ? In that case, be aware Compactlogix Controllers I/O backplanes are not currently supported by the emulator so if you are trying to emulate a controller from one of those platforms, the I/O modules will be deleted on conversion....and then you may receive errors related to these I/O tags used in the program that have been removed by the system. If the project will no longer verify because of this, then try to reinsert similar 1756 I/O modules using the same names and slot locations. The Generic Module may also work if no close match exists.This is done simply to recreate the module defined tags that the application logic might reference. Since the Rslogix Emulate 5000 Controller doesn't have real world I/O control, inhibit all the modules in the I/O Configuration list. Take a look to Aid 37548 for Quick Start with the emulator software.Aid 41641 could help if you want to simulate I/O within the emulator. Both technotes require Techconnect Authorization to access.Take also a look to the Getting Results Guide. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk Studio in Hand Held Terminal(Windows CE) In one of my project i am using the Factory Talk Studio as a SCADA station and i want to use the Hand Held Terminal(Mobile PC) to give input values from the filed while roaming in the site(Wireless Network).The Hand held Terminal will be having windows CE operating system.Can i use the factory talk studio in Hand held terminal ?If anybody can clarify it please reply to this forum ### Assistant: Unfortunately this isn't possible...:smileysad: See Aid 61359 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Can i use RS View 32 in Handheld Terminal(Windows CE) ? No you can't. See Aid 42682 for Software Compatibility Matrix. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactryTalkVeiw Studio only runs demo mode HELP I am new to AB products FactoryTalk Veiw Studio just runs in demo mode. I cant get the server to run on FactoryTalk Activation Tool, just won't start. XP sp3 USB MAC on hask dongle. FTView 5.00.00(CPR 9) build 55. Logix 5000 works OK. Geoff. ### Assistant: Hello, The FT View studio is not design for Windows XP SP3 for the moment, you have to be in SP2. The last version of FactoryTalk Activation software is version 3.02Is it your version ? If not download it ( https://licensing.software.rockwell.com/ ) and re try. Regards. Most likely you have the client and not the server installed.Uninstall the Factorytalk Activation ClientInstall the FactoryTalk Activation ServerCD Path for ME isredistftaserversetup.exe or get it from licensing.software.rockwell.com Reboot, and done Ahhhh.... Thanks for the help... Well a put a new drive in the machine and loaded XP Pro SP2. Ok it's a little better but the factorytalk view sometimes starts in grace mode. If the open the activation tool I have to point to the HASP USB key each time then it seems better. The activation tool always jumps to the host hard drive. The tools server won't start, the path is correct and the LMGRD.EXE is in the folder. I get the error 1067 when I goto start the sever in admin services any ideas. Geoff Hi Geoff, I want to point you to the following technotes that may help: Aid 35092 - there are some hints about the server that cannot start... maybe some permissions that have to be set in the firewallAid 58391 - it threats the needs to stop and restart the server when a Concurrent Activation is hosted to an USB dongle. In effect, the Concurrent Activations should be preferrably hosted to an Hard Drive, instead of the dongle...it seems there are some malfunctioning doing this... :smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic There are only two reasons why the server won't start, no concurrent licenses can be seen by the tool, exists or some other piece of software or security application is blocking it. The get activation's tab does nothing actively, changing this to point at the dongle does nothing, except if you went to get a new activation file it will prepopulate the post code data to the website, that and it's useful to identify what the host id's are. That's it. It has no other active effect. Remember when using the dongle to plug it in before boot up or if you plugged it in afterward, to refressh or restart the server in the settings tab of the tool so it will recognize the dongle right away. If the server will not start because both the start and stop buttons are greyed out, you have the wrong tool installed, install the activation server. If the server will not start because when you press the button to start it, it immediately stops, check for a firewall application on your computer, and white list the following files lmgrd.exe and flexsvr.exe Finally, if none of this works, go to the log file RSSVR.log and paste it here. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 505 Controller vs Compact Logix Controller Looking for some help. I'm rather new to the 5000 software and Compact controllers. In the SLC 505 processor there are status bits for the hour, minutes & seconds that can be used in a ladder rung. If I wanted to move the accumulation of a counter to a register every hour, I could utilize the S:40 bit in my program to do so. How is this done in the Compact Logix controller? ### Assistant: The controller's free-running clock (similar but faster than S:4 in the SLC) is interpreted as a WallClock object. You can access it in your program with a Get System Variable (GSV) instruction. There are very good examples given in the Help file for the GSV and SSV instructions. The results of a GSV read of the WallClock time are an array of DINT values: Year, Month, Day, Hour, Minute, Second, and Microsecond. If you make the target of your GSV instruction a DINT[7] array, then the Hour is the DINT[3] element. The main WallClock time runs on Universal Coordinated Time, commonly called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), like when they call out the time on the BBC World Service broadcasts in the middle of the night. I actually like to keep my machines running on UCT, then manually do the math so I can account for Daylight Saving Time and for the timezone they're in. V17 of Logix firmware will also include a Local version of the WallClock time that will automatically adjust for timezone. Thanks Ken, looks like I can handle that. Much appreciated! Ken and all, My understanding is that the V16/V17 Local date and time in the WALLCLOCKTIME object DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY adjust for Daylight Saving Time. (Look at the date/time dialog in Controller Properties -- it does NOT say anything about automatically!!!) Basically, you have to go into the Controller Properties and check the box when DST starts and go uncheck the box when DST ends. This bumps the Local date and time forward an hour or back an hour. In a GSV/SSV of the WALLCLOCKTIME object, you can get/set these values: * The LocalDateTime attribute reports the local time (same format) based on the timezone string and the DST checkbox You can SSV this attribute to set the clock. * The DateTime attribute reports the time in UTC as a DINT[7] array: Year, Month, Day, Hour, Minutes, Seconds, Microseconds. I think you can SSV this to set the clock using UTC values.... * The CurrentValue attribute reports the number of microseconds since 1970/1/1 00:00:00.000000 as a 64-bit signed integer in two DINTS * The ApplyDST attribute reports whether the DST checkbox is checked (1) or not (0) in a SINT. You can SSV this attribute to set or clear the checkbox and do the time change programmatically using your own code based on your country's rules for when DST starts and ends. (The controller doesn't do this automatically because it doesn't know all the country rules. Besides, you don't want to update firmware whenever some country changes rules!) * The DSTAdjustment attribute tells you how many minutes the clock will shift (default = 60 minutes) when you check or uncheck the ApplyDST checkbox. You can SSV this attribute if your country changes the clock by an amount other than one hour. (Newfoundland tried this back in 1988, but I don't know of any countries that do this now....) * The TimeZoneString attribute includes the selection of time zone, like GMT-05:00 Eastern Time (US & Canada). If you SSV this attribute (it's a STRING), note that the GMT+xx:xx or GMT-xx:xx IS significant and it sets your offset from UTC in hours and minutes (before DST is applied). But, of course, all this is in the GSV/SSV Objects help...... Happy timekeeping!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory talk View ME 5.1 Do you know when FactoryTalk View ME 5.1 will be released?Is there any way to get a bata copy? ### Assistant: The last informations I've heared give June 2009 as target release date. About Beta version...I think it would be better to ask to your local Rockwell representative...I don't know if there is this possibility though... - fuzzy logic To those who are interested, FactoryTalk View version 5.1 is now available to download at Support site. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Nesting layers of parameter files So If I have 3 pages that are going to be used for identical processes, I can make a simple set of parameter files for each of those three processes. Those parameter files are referenced when the display is opened. Example: I have Screens 1,2,3. Which can be called in reference to process A, B, C. If I do a Display List for Screen 1, Process B I reference parameter file Screen1_ProcB. Simple, right? What if I have a menu list that says Select Process and I select A; that opens ANOTHER display that says Select Screen. I've already selected Process A, so the display list will say. Process A - Screen 1Process A - Screen 2Process A - Screen 3 I know I've selected Process A because when I wrote the description for this generic page, I put in:/*S:0 ### Assistant: I should have mentioned, this is for a FactoryTalk View HMI. Hi Justin, parameter files can only go one level deep in FactoryTalk View ME 5.00 :smileysad: Next coming Version 5.1 will have a Carry Forward Feature to support what you need (it allows the carrying of initial parameters from one display to the next) :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic To those who are interested, FactoryTalk View version 5.1 is now available to download at Support site. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Pop up display Do any of you smart people out there know how to display a screen that is configured as On Top and Cannot Be Replaced (checked) without using a goto display function? ThanksJeff ### Assistant: You can have the processor bring it up with a remote tag. Whatever integer value (non-zero) you place in that tag in the processor will cause the corresponding display on the ME app to open. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=27904 JHutch PS I just realized I assumed ME ... if it's SE, I don't *believe* it has that feature. Jhutch,I believe what you have noted will work when the display has a display number. I am wondering the specific display can be displayed that doesn't have a display number, this occurs when you select on top, I have also selected cannot be replaced. Thanks Actual version 5.0 of FactoryTalk Vie ME doesn't allow to assign a Display number to an On Top display, thus there isn't the possibility to open it from remote connection.... :smileysad: Next coming version 5.1 of ViewME will have this possibility; you will assign to an On Top display a number and you will able to switch to it using a new enhanced Global Connection settings. - fuzzy logic To those who are interested, FactoryTalk View version 5.1 is now available to download at Support site. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Windows Vista Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to istall FactoryTalk View on Windows Vista? Thanks. ### Assistant: javiero, see Aid 20450.... Windows Vista (all versions) FactoryTalk View SE 5.00.00 has NOT been qualified on Windows Vista and is NOT supported on this operating system. The same issue for FactoryTalkView ME 5.00.00. - fuzzy logic Thanks, I suppos that we must wait for a new V6.0. There will be a 5.1 version launched later this year...maybe it will support it... - fuzzy logic Yes, v5.1 is scheduled to support Vista. No, I do not have an expected release date. JHutch Is there any update on when Vista will be suported? I bought FT ME and just discovered to my chagrin that it won't install on my laptop which is running Vista 32 Home Premium SP2. I'm really surprised and disappointed that Rockwell still has no support for Vista for this product - especially when you consider that Vista is starting to reach the end of its product life and Windows 7 will soon be out. It really shouldn't take this long! ...Hoping that v5.1 is not very far away! Nick-- I'm glad to see that 5.1 will support Vista, does this mean that the likelyhood is high that it will support Windows7 too? We have avoided Vista for many reasons (one being FactoryTalk support). I would also like to know if .NET type plug-in support will added to 5.1 in addition to ActiveX. We are getting ready to develop an ActiveX component and this knowledge would be handy before we advance. I attended RSTechEd in Orlando where this information was covered.View SE 5.1 will be released in August (yes, 2009)It will support Vista Business SP 1 and 2008 Server SP 1.Vista Business SP 1 can not be used as a Networked View SE Server with remote clients, like XP was used for small systems. Rockwell's policy is to not support new Operating Systems or Service Packs for existing OS's until a new release. View hasn't shipped since 2007 and Vista wasn't targeted at that time. .NET type plug in will not be supported in 5.1. Hope this helps. Hello Hutch, Just following up to see if 5.1 is ready. I was told by a Rockwell rep. that it was due out in early August and was wondering whether it's going to be out soon, or even better, maybe it's already out and I missed the announcement. Nick-- Nick - I just learned that Rockwell has delayed the v5.1 release until August 24th. That will be the web release. That's less than a week away. I'll be looking forward to that! Nick-- That's the time frame I'm hearing here as well. In fact, I have a presentation on v5.1 scheduled this afternoon, so I'll hopefully know more soon. JHutch To those who are interested, FactoryTalk View version 5.1 is now available to download at Support site. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSlogix 5000 takes 30 minutes to start RSLogix 5000 is taking up to 30 minutes to start. Any ideas? I checked the Factorytalk Activation Server Tool settings and the default file locations are listed in both windows. I also disabled the Start Page to see if that would make a difference. ### Assistant: Have you already seen technote 36198 ? There are few possible causes of similar issue.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic yes, I checked that, but the file locations are all at defaults and the software still takes at least 7 minutes upto 30 minutes to launch. I checked the task manager and it shows RS5000.exe running but it seems to not be processing. Other tasks are showing using CPU utilization, but RS5000.exe is only showing CPU utilization intermittenly over the 7-30 minute time frame. The typical shortcut for RSLogix5000 is the launcher.exe and it tries to determine the last version used and then tries to open that particular version. If you have several versions it has to go through this. I just went to each versions .exe file and created a shortcut on the desktop to specifically launch each version; e.g. one for v. 13, v15, v16, v17. It has reduced my launch time considerably and now it usually doesn't take more than a minute to launch. Worth a try... They did have v10-17 installed but I had them unistall all versions and only install v10 and 13. It is still taking typically 7 minutes to start-up. I am think about unistalling the Factorytalk Services and Activation Server and reinstalling those to see if that helps. I am going to also look at the patch list for the Factorytalk services and activation server to see if there is anything in there that may help. The RSLogix 5000 splash screen seems to come up and go away in a reasonable time, but the actual application does not show up after that for 6 minutes or so on average. I have also checked the boxes in the activation server for checking for activations at start-up to see if that helped, but it did not seem to make a difference. This problem seemed to begin occurring after installing RSnetworks for Controlnet with a concurrent activation and upgrading the activation client to an activation server. The current server being used is the CPR9 SR1 release. So there is a node locked license for RSlogix 5000 and a concurrent license for RSnetworks for Controlnet v9. Any correlation? If you're going to uninstall the FT activation services, make sure you uninstall all the rockwell products first, then uninstall. After you uninstall everything, it might be helpful to download and install the MSI clean up utility from Microsoft. It's actuall called Windows Install Clean-up. This will clean up any left-over .msi code. Install FT activation server/client FIRST. Then install only the version you'll be using and see how that works. You shouldn't have any problem with a mix of licensing as long as the client can contact ther server. I had the EVRSI (master disk) also installed since we were running older version and I had to rename the extension from .sys to .sy_ to keep the server from picking it up. Look at the log file on the server to see if it's having trouble doling out licenses. The RSNetworks stuff should not affect RSL5K from starting up in a reasonable manner. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Competing against ITT PumpSmart / Aquarvar Pump Controllers with PowerFlex Hi there, Has anyone recently been up against ITT PumpSmart or AquaVar Pump Controllers? I have a local (AB friendly) Integrator that is currently up against this product on a job, and I was wonder if anyone could offer me some competitive collateral to offer to my integrator? Any help at all? Thanks. ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix 6000 single-phase operation. Is it possible? Hi, I'm new to the Kinetix products and I would like to know if the Kinetix 6000 have a single-phase operation in addition to the three-phase operation. I would also like to know if the power rail is imperative, and if not, if it's safe to operate without it. ### Assistant: Kinetix 6000 needs a three-phase input power. The 2094 power rail consists of copper bus bars and a circuit board with connectors for each module.The power rail provides power and control signals from the converter section to adjacent inverters.The IAM, AM, SM, and PRF modules mount to the power rail. So, without the power rail, the system cannot be used. See User Manual and Selection Guide for more infos. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you very much for your answer, but I would like to confirm one more thing. You sad that the power rail provides power and control signals to adjacent inverters. Since I need only a single IAM, do I still need the Power Rail? What will happen if I connect only the three-phase input power, the control power connector and the contactor enable without using the Power Rail? I'm using these materials for a graduation project at university and the materials I have, weren't specified by me, they were bought before I signed in. If I really need to buy the Power Rail, I may loose some precious time waiting for it to arrive, and that's why I need to know if I can at least perform the first tests without it. I'm afraid to have to confirm the following, but you will need a power rail :smileysurprised: IAM contains 1 Converter and one Inverter, and so you have 2 connectors on the bottom of it that needs to be connected by the power rail (see PRS1 image attached) - fuzzy logic Thank you very much for your help! Altough this is not the best news for me, now I know what to do (I thought that the connection between the converter and the inverter was internal). Can I ask you one last question? While the power rail that I will order right away doesn't arrive, is it possible to turn the kinetix on in order to getting familiar with its configuration in RSLogix, even tough i won't be able to use it to control the electric motor? Or is it impossible/unsafe? Hmmm... I've never tested it, but my guess is it won't work...and yes, I think is unsafe to try that ...:smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Removable Hard Drives I have several identical computers with removable hard drives. I did all my activations as mobile to dongles. When I move a hard drive from one computer to a second and move the dongles with it none of the concurrent activations show up. They work fine on the first computer, none show that they have been checked out. Before I start to run anything all show available and none have been borrowed. The concurrent ones show the name of the computer but that name moves with the hard drive. Is the server still tied to the Ethernet port? I do not want to tie the server to the drive. The computers have RAID 1 and will be cloned. I want tuly mobile activations that are tied only to the dongle. ### Assistant: Michael, I've seen many times a similar behavior using the dongle to host Concurrent activations... that is the needs to stop and restart the FactoryTalk Activation Server to let it associate the licenses to the dongle. Also I've seen that when the Dongle is connected when the PC is booted up, all will be ok. Aid 50096 may give some help to correct this issue. Seems it is not recommended to host concurrent activations to a dongle.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Sort of works, sort of des not work. Putting it in the batch file in startup does not work every time. I put the time delay out to 15 seconds. Running LMReRead manually after everything is up always works even if I do it in less than 2 seconds. It looks like I need to make opening the client into a batch file with LMReRead occurring first. Also, now the operator will have to start the client and not have it come up immediately after logging on. This fix will not work well eventually. I need FTServer to open when the computer boots and not wait until someone logs on and opens a client. The data logging needs to start when the machine reboots. Usually it may be hours before an operator needs to log in and open the client. I will have to make it part of operating procedure that if the system powers back up then the operator must log in immediately as part standard operating procedures. This will go over big. I do not need redundancy but if I did I would be totally out of luck. This is my first experience using the new FT activation system. I have been doing PLCs for almost 30 years and was very comfortable with the old system. Now being forced to change I like the new system but it is buggy. It is not really ready for prime time and must be costing AB a fortune to support. By the fact that it takes its own forum is proof of this point. Your original post was about activation issues. now however you are branching into FT Project launch and Datalogging. You may want to close this thread and start another in the FT section to try to address your project concerns. Batch Script for concurrent activation'sUse the net commands See: net stop FactoryTalk Activation Servicenet start FactoryTalk Activation Service then add the path to the project file you want to start up example C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSViewprojectIwanttorun.mer The issue is the timing between Activation startup and launching FT Project with data logging. It also applies to RSLogix when starting too fast also. I suspect these delays effect many products. Those that know will read it in this section as well as others. This forum is also open to all and does not take a TechConnect contract. The issues of activation effect all so I put it here. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Component to CompactLogix PLC Hello everyone! I need help on how to configure a panelview component (2711c-T6C) to connect to a CompactLogix PLC. We are having problems because we could not see any CompactLogix in the controller selection field of both the serial and ethernet communication settings window. Is there anything we can/should do to make this work? Thanks in advance and your immediate response will be highly appreciated. vincefrom philippines ### Assistant: Hello Vince, I think you must manually add the device under the specific drivers. Certainly for serial communications. At first we have to remember the PV Component was developed to communicate with MicroLogix and SLC / PLC controllers; so you have some limitations when you try to use it with a Logix family controller. One of the biggest limit is that you can't connect it to a CompactLogix through Ethernet/IP, but only you can communicate serially.Another limitation is related to the fact you have to use Legacy PLC mapping to communicate over serial protocol with a Logix controller. So, in the communication setting window you have to select as controller a PLC-5 or SLC-500 fixed I/O; the same for tag addresses in PVc, you have to use addresses valid for those controllers. Then in RSLogix 5000 you need to Map PLC/SLC Messages using indications in technote 7355. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FACTORY TALK ALARMS AND EVENTS Is it required that newly concept of generating alarms and events using Factory talk alarms and events require Microsoft SQL Server. Because when I tried to create the Alarms history database it asked for the database information.But without the Microsoft SQL Server, I couldnot create the database. ### Assistant: Yes, it is required...however, you do not have to purchase MS SQL to set up alarm history for FactoryTalk Alarms and Events. Microsoft provides a free version of SQL called MS SQL Express. SQL Express is not installed by default during the FactoryTalk View SE installation; however, it is available for manual installation from the FactoryTalk View Installation CD. If you do not have the FactoryTalk View installation CD available or prefer to download the installation from Microsoft, you may do that as well. See also the Quick Start Guide , Appendix D Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I thought that MS SQL was only required with Alarms and Events if you want data logging. If all you care about is real time info then it is not necessary. Please clarify. Firs answer was related to user's request about history database.... to store historical alarm and event data and then view them through FactoryTalk Alarm and Event Log Viewer you will need Microsoft SQL Server database. If you don't need to log historical Alarm and Events, then you can work without MS SQL. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ProfiBus Basics? I need to know about Profibus basics and where from i can get info? ### Assistant: Obviously the best source should be the official site: :smileywink: http://www.profibus.com/ - fuzzy logic thats ok..but i need word doc etc sort to get ready to help source. In that site, vikas, you may find documentation on that... :smileysurprised: http://www.profibus.com/pall/meta/downloads/article/00454/ also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profibus - fuzzy logic still it is not clear.need something extra and more detailed.:smileysad: vikas, again, I think that in that site you may find all what you need... or maybe your request is not cleat to me... The Profibus site is a big source of documents on this network, the technical guides are clear and give a depth overview of protocol functionality. Again, a link to download ALL about it. http://www.profibus.com/pall/meta/downloads/ Sorry, vikas, maybe I can't understand your needs... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic If your still looking for info there are a few good webinars on the Profibus site. http://www.us.profibus.com/webinars.aspx?pagetype=archive n"}
{"text": "### Human: Programing an ABB Magmaster whith profibus card SST. Any one knows how to program an ABB Flowmeter in a SLC 500 whith an STT card? ### Assistant: Rocha, I don't know the ABB Magmaster, but I've used sometimes the SST module; if you need to understand how to use it, I may help. First, you need the GSD file for your device, from here: http://library.abb.com/global/scot/scot211.nsf/veritydisplay/86abdb7ed95e8ed0c1256f5800308bfe/$File/3KGB196000S0004_GSD_MMAS(MagMaster)_APROBE(AquaProbe)-DP.zip Then, the Magmaster manual for Profibus, where you may understand how datas are formatted. http://library.abb.com/global/scot/scot203.nsf/veritydisplay/4dca57376c5f5a2bc12572ed003cc55a/$File/IM_MM_PBS_4.pdf Basically, you need to use SST profibus Configuration software (a CD is usually sent with module, or you may find it in SST internet site); there you have to import your GSD.Then, follow the instruction mentioned in the SST user guide at page 5.2 to create a binary file (carefully insert all the properties and settings in your module, the datas you want to transfer, and see the SLC address where they will be) and at page 5.4 to upload it to the module via Hyper terminal commands.At chapter 5.1 the instructions on how to insert the module in the IO configuration in RSlogix500. These are quick informations, the procedure in the User Guide, in any case, is well explained. Hope this helps.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic If you don't have the SST software follow this link: http://www.mysst.com/download/searchdownload.asp?Software=ON&RPP=10&PartNumber=SST-PFB-CLX&byPartNo=Go!&Product=&Keywords= It is next to impossible to find on their site. n"}
{"text": "### Human: USB SOME PANEL VIEW PLUS HAS USB PORT. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO USE THIS PORT. ### Assistant: The terminals support standard USB keyboard and mouse devices with native device drivers.They also support some USB printers that have Printer Control Language (PCL) capabilities.Also you may connect USB Flash drives (at least firmware 4.0 is required, not all USB drives work in PVP) i.e. to transfer .mer files; following the path where the files should reside in the USB drives, to let PVP *see* them: [Drive Name]:Rockwell SoftwareRsViewMERuntime...where [Drive Name] is the drive letter designator for the host computer. I.E. E:Rockwell SoftwareRsViewMERuntime See also User Manual chapter 7 and Appendix B for useful infos Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Create Produced/Consumed tags online Is there a way to create Produced or Consumed tags online? Currently I have to go offline and re-download. I am using Version 17 ControlLogix processor. ### Assistant: Haven't tried it with v17 but doesn't show up as an added feature in any of the release notes. I usually create a large array under one produced/consumed tag that's the same in all controllers. If produced_tag1 in controller 1 then I have Controller_1/produced_tag1 in controller 2 for comsuming the data. This way, I can add data to the predefined structure without having to take the processor offline. Also, defining one tag array only creates two connections (# of connections + 1) rather than a connection for each produced/consumed tag+1. That is how I plan on doing it as well. I will create an array of REAL and DINT (both have to be under 500 bytes) and I will just alias or use code to move the values into the arrays. The problem is we already have 5-6 PLCs that are online that I want to add the produced/consumed tags to. I don't want to have to worry about adding the tags offline and then re-downloading the code to every one of the PLCs. If I was just starting out it wouldn't be a problem, but since these PLCs are already in place it becomes cumbersome. It's fairly easy to do this going in feet first but since it's already in service, messaging is the simplest form, especially since you can create/delete tags on the fly and create your MSG instructions too. As a side note, I've not seen this functionality in the planned features for software version 18 ... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: add on instruction can anyone expalin add on instruction feature with examples. ### Assistant: Take a look to the ADD-ON Instruction Programming Manual There are also useful videos in the Start Page Media on RS5000; you may also download these videos at this LINK ... see the attachment to this post...Also you may find some examples program on the V17 RSLogix 5000 CD, and they should be installed together with RS5000.To find the ACD file go to the Start Page, Quick Start then Open Sample Project and select for example Add_On_Instructions_Samples.acd Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Running RSView 7.5 SR1 on Vista (aka Microsoft, I curse thee.) Brand new, just out of the box PC, running Windows Vista Home Basic SP1, 32 bit. Installed RSView32 7.50 SR1, which the release notes claim is compatible with the version of Windows on the PC. I rebooted the PC. I started RSView. Within 5 seconds of the splash screen appearing, RSView crashes. Subsequent reboots and restarts turn out the same. I have disabled UAC. I have tried Run As Administrator. I have tried running it in XP SP2 compatibility mode. The same crash occurs every time. From EventViewer: Faulting Application: RSViewrt32.exeVersion: 7.50.11.0Faulting Module: ntdll.dllVersion 6.0.6001.18000Timestamp: 0x4791a7a6Exception code: 0xc0000005Fault offset: 0x0006a786Process ID: (Varies each time it crashes) Anyone else ran across this? And if you have, how did you resolve it? ### Assistant: Hmmmm... I've found similar problem in knowledgebase, but is related to other softwares..... Anyway, try to see if Aid 41146 suggestions could help... - fuzzy logic Wow... that fixed it. I shall sacrifice 6 longnecks in your honor this weekend. (Actually, I'm going to drink them, but you get the idea.) Thanks for the help! He He :smileyvery-happy: Ok, enjoy them ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Software Versions If I have multiple firmware versions loaded into my PC from one diskette, can I toggle say between version 13 and 15? Thanks in advance for any help provided ### Assistant: Not sure to have correctly understood your needs.... anyway, you can open multiple instances of the RSLogix 5000 on one PC using different software versions, and freely switch between them... There could be some possible issues with this, see Aid 39470. If it is not your request, please post again and give more details...:smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes, I am trying to figure out how to switch between the different versions...10.1,13.1,15.2...etc Thanks again! Ok christina, so has this solved your request ? If so, then may you please close the thread using the green Solution button over my previous post? Thanks,- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix with Panel View Component I can use a Panel View Component in a procces with CompactLogix or ControlLogix controller or I need use a Panel View Plus only. Thank you so much for you time, I waiting and answer ### Assistant: At first we have to remember the PV Component was developed to communicate with MicroLogix and SLC / PLC controllers; so you have some limitations when you try to use it with a Logix family controller. One of the biggest limit is that you can't connect it to a CompactLogix / ControlLogix through Ethernet/IP, but only you can communicate serially.Another limitation is related to the fact you have to use Legacy PLC mapping to communicate over serial protocol with a Logix controller. So, in the communication setting window you have to select as controller a PLC-5 or SLC-500 fixed I/O; the same for tag addresses in PVc, you have to use addresses valid for those controllers. Then in RSLogix 5000 you need to Map PLC/SLC Messages using indications in technote 7355. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700 on separator, Motor Overload I have installed a PF700 on a separator. This, of course, is basically a centrifuge. In the process they have a shoot cycle that I would call a shock load. The system is running at 4700 rpm and when the shoot occurs it slows the 4000rpm. The drive attempts to induce more current to keep the rpm stable and goes out on overload. I have the drive in Custom V/Hz at this point and can only assume that I should go to SVC to have more options on run boost. Looking for someone who has a bit of experiance in this. Not a fun one to troubleshoot when accel is 10 minutes and decel in 1hour. ### Assistant: Using the standard vector control should be fine for your application. I'm also assuming that the motor parameters have been entered correctly including the number of poles on the installed motor. There are some boost setting that may help but since it takes 10 minutes to accel, the optimum solution may be to meter in the load if possible so it's not so much of a shock. How long does it stay at 4000 rpm after the load has been applied assuming it didn't trip? I'm also going to assume after the load has been added it is trying to get the centrifuge back up to 4700 RPM? There is no subsitute for Bang for your Buck I would use the next size drive up. Using more Dc boost will only decrease the time before the overload trip. A longer Accel ramp may reduce the response of the peak current , but the overload is based on the standard I2t , hence it would still trip, but at a latter time. When using the powerflex drives the type of service needed comes in two forms; normal duty and heavy duty. Heavy Duty is usually just one size larger than you actually need for the motor which allows for overcurrent protection up to 200% for 3 seconds and 150% for 60 seconds. You never state what type of material you're adding to the separator but if it's a liquid then using a control valve will be the only remedy if you don't intend to up-size the drive. I apologize for the delay. I am new in this forum. Just for reference, the motor is 75HP, 460V. I went with a 125A rated pf700. The shock load happens in 3 stages, or what thay call shoots for CIP of the system. I was able to adjust the SV Boost filter, which by default is set at 500(?) with a min/max of 0-32767. I ended up around 4000 in this parameter to give me enough torque control during the shoot to not lose so many RPM that I go out on overcurrent. The existing drive that I replaced was a Toshiba rated at 120A. Thanks for the input Always glad to hear the end result whether the forums helped or not. This forum exists on bad experiences and head-knockers so it's always good to hear a solution to a problem or headache. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View ME offline edits What happens when you make an offline change to a Logix5K project, open ME and create a new object for the existing project then just type in the known path/tag name without refreshing the offline tags. I have a customer who did this and loaded the ME project onto a Compactflash, shipped it to his customer. When they loaded the project in the PV+ the online path was corrupted and nothing worked. Can you just type in tags like you did in PB32 with ME without refreshing the tag database. ### Assistant: Yes, you may type in manually the tags in View ME... just you have to be sure to use the correct syntax. Also it is quite difficult an error in one tag syntax has corrupted all the database... I guess there is either something wrong in the RSLinx Enterprise Target configuration, so that the PVP cannot *see* the controller , or some problem in the communication hardware (cables etc.) - fuzzy logic Thanks for the response. When I am programming in ME, by habit I always refresh the tags. I was a bit concerned that this being my customers first time using the compact flash for tranfer that he may of messed up the file folders but I can only assume that it would not have loaded at all if he missed something there. I agree that the addition of a few tags should not have caused a full failure and I am going to go through the application early next week when the customer gets. We have a few PV+ terminals that we can use for the test. He went back and looked at both apps, the original, and the revised and the online path was the same. Well, his online path (ie, the design time configuration) wouldn't have made any difference to running it on the PV+. That's the runtime configuration (the other tab in the RSLE comms setup window). Chances are he has everything just fine in design time. But the runtime config is probably wrong. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView 32 import to RSView Studio Machine Addition Ok folks. Is it possible to do the above? The only thing I have ever done in ME is import a Panelview 1400e project and then work for a week getting everything working again. I have never done RSView 32 into ME...... Help? ### Assistant: When you open ft view me click on the new tab enter project name then click on import at the bottom. Browse to file to import. Hello, You can't import a RsView32 to a FT Studio ME. PanelView Standard ( Pv 900, Pv 1000 ... ) and PanelView e ( PV 1400e ... ) and PV+ application can be imported to a ME project. If you want to import RsView32 to studio, you have to create a SE project. Regards. Thanks for the input guys! Would be a nice feature though instead of having to do the whole project over again. From what I've been told, the reason they can't do an import routine for RSView32 to ME is because of features that existed in 32 that do not exist in ME. The SE product supports all those features, so it can be done. I've never personally played much with RSView32, so I really don't know what those problem features are, but that's what the SE group tells me whenever I ask about this stuff. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk ME RIO driver 2711P-RN6- RIO not in driver list Hi I'm converting a old PV application to PannelView 1000 Plus on RIO. In the doc's I find that I have to use the 1771RIO, 2711P-RN6- RIO driver in the RSLinx Enterprise configuration.But when I click the add driver there is no such driver , so where can I find the one I need. Thanks ### Assistant: Take a look right in the middle of your screen shot. The 2711p-RN6 is the 6th option in the list. In your defense, if you were looking for 1771-RIO, that's a problem. That refers to the processor not the driver. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Download the PV+ via VPN Connection I am looking for information on being able to remotely down load to a PV+. I have the ability to upload/download to processors without an issue but have had no luck with downloading to the PV+. ### Assistant: While theoretically possible, RSLinx Enterprise is much less forgiving of jumping through routers across subnets. If your VPN system puts you on the same subnet as the PV+, the download will almost assuredly work. If you have to go through to different subnets, it MAY work by manually added the PV+ to Ethernet driver in RSLE. When I'm remote, I tend to use Remote Desktop into a computer at the site and download from THAT to the PV+. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix and Linux We're looking at using a ControlLogix controller, but we need to be able to read and write to it from Linux. The RsLinx software will only run on Windows. Does anyone have any experience controlling these from a Linux computer? ### Assistant: There are a handful of open-source projects, many of which have been abandoned, like TuxPLC. A fellow named Ron Gage in Michigan built a library called CELL and sold it to an integrator, and it's still available. If you don't need fast, direct and random tag access to the controller, it may be easier for you to use the 1756-EWEB module and XML data sets, or one of the transaction manager modules from Online Development (OLDI). If you need fast cyclic data exchange (like I/O), the very best stacks and software are from Pyramid Solutions (pyrasol.com). I'm new to PLC's. Not sure what you mean byfast, direct and random tag access to the controller. Do you know ifan older version of ABEL, CELL. or tuxPLC is available anywhere. Like i said I'm new, and not sure if we're even going to get the thing. I'm working on a loaner unit to test if it will meet our requirements. Have you heard of OPC Datahub before? you need an opc to link to, but it has Linux support. Otherwise you could try using Modbus interface since modbus drivers do exist for Linux. http://www.modbusdriver.com/fieldtalk/ Well, this brings up an interesting question that we've been pondering and have yet to carve out time to try...since the new Viewpoint stuff is ran in an internet browser, has anyone tried using maybe Firefox under Linux to view process data from a Vantagepoint server? We haven't messed with the Viewpoint software as of yet and not sure of the portability between browsers and if process data is bi-directional. If it is, maybe this can solve the OPC problem. Doesn't ViewPoint use Silverlight (Microsoft's version of Flash)? If so, I doubt there is a Linux version of it... EDIT: Just checked ... Yes, ViewPoint uses Silverlight. Yes, there is an effort to get Silverlight to work on Linux (called Moonlight). The official Moonlight website is here: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Normal CYA applies. Not tested, not officially support, use at your own risk. That said, I'd be really interested in hearing how this works for anyone that tries it. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000 Trend Pens Disappear After setting up a trend to monitor a tag, after 10 to 15 minutes later the pens no longer show up. There are also times when switching views this time is less. What can I do to monitor tag trends over a longer time period? ### Assistant: Trending in Logix5000 is dependent on many things: memory and disk space on pc, controller memory, network speed, sample rate on the trend, etc. Check to see how much free memory on the controller you have, how many pens you're trending, and the sample rate of each trend. If you need something longer, you might be able to link the data to Excel and then create a chart linked to the data. Otherwise, for a lengthy trend, you can always use OPC. I had tried multiple processors with the same results the processor free memory has ranged from .75MB to 4.5MB available memory on the processor and testing with a single pen. The PC has 2MB RAM and plenty of hard drive space available. We are getting new laptops with 4GB RAM so maybe that will help. Automator, Open up the Trend Properties (RSTrendX Properties is the title bar of the dialog) and select the Sampling page. I forget what the default Sample Period is, but if memory serves it's pretty dang fast. I usually slow it down to somewhere in the range of 100 to 1000 ms. Then check the Size of Each Capture. You can select number of samples (in which case old data are lost as new data come in if you don't save a log file), time period (Is this what you have selected? Looks like it defaults to 10 minutes....), or No Limit (until you reach 80% disk full). Perhaps something here needs to be set differently, or if it looks correct, perhaps doesn't work correctly. Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Collection What software could I use to collect data from various controllogix plc's via Ethernet? ### Assistant: That's a wide open question and the answer, depends on what type of data and how fast. If you're looking for third party software, any that support OPC is the most recognized method of getting information. RSLinx classic is an OPC container and can be used to get information into Excel. There are technotes on the knowledgebase about getting data into Excel. I'm trying to collect or be able to view different tags for supervisors,engineers to look at. I'm not sure which one would work best with AB RSL5000 Take a look at knowledge base art. 37575 and see if this is what you're looking for. Basically you configure the DDE/OPC topic in RSLinx Classic and then set up your links to excel from within excel. tcbfan, If memory serves, I believe you need a bigger license for RSLinxClassic to do OPC. (Maybe it's remote OPC....) If the OPC topic configuration stuff doesn't appear in your copy of RSLinx, look at the title bar. If it says RSLinx Classic LITE, that's the reason. I think you need Gateway, or maybe OEM level license. Another way to get data out of the controller is to use the 1756-EWEB module and have it serve the data as web pages. The manual for this module is on the online Literature Library. Online Development Inc. (OLDI) makes modules for the 1756 chassis (and others, I assume) that will pull data into SQL-type transactions for use with your favorite relational database. Best of Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 5/03 OEM LOCK S:1/14 I have a project to modify and backup a program from SLC 5/03. But the program has the OEM Lock, S:1/14=1, so, I can't acces to the program, I don't have the program replica in my PC, the builder machine isn't available. Someone knows how quit this lock S:1/14=0? ### Assistant: Unfortunately it seems not possible... You must have a matching program on the hard drive to go online. If you do not have a matching program, you will need to obtain one from the company who provided the program. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Floating point question Hello, I have a 1756-L61 CL 5561 Controller rev. 16.20My question is that I have a rung that adds a 1 to the real tag everytime the (ons) is fired adds 1, then put back into the same tag to keep inc by 1.My problem is that the count stops at 16,777,216 no matter what I do. I can put a greater number in there but it does not count up, but if I put a smaller number it will count up untill it reaches the 16,777,216. This is what I tryed, I made a dummy tag (real) and tryed it with the same logic, comes up same thing.I tryed a DINT dummy tag and it inc like normal.So what I had to do for them to get their numbers is use the DINT and move it into the origional real tag, which works fine. I searched on Floats and Real and ADD, and came up no info.Is there something stupid I am missing here (hopefully). Thanks for any help. ### Assistant: This happens on a 1756-L63 V17.3 also. You can also not enter the value 16777217 into a real in the tag monitor table. If you do, the value goes immediately to 16777216. You can enter a higher number, but it does not like 16777217. If you watch the tag in your program, it will skip over the value 16777217 and not change from 16777216 until the dint is greater. Here is a rung that shows it. Thanks for th reply Mike, So are you saying that once it reaches that setpoint 16,777,216 it will not count up anymore.I know I could put a greater number in the tag, but even then It will not continue counting up. All, This is a characteristic of IEEE754 32-bit floating-point arithmetic. A REAL value has a sign bit, 8 exponent bits (power of 2, not of 10), and the remaining 23 bits have a 1 bit stuck in front of them forming a 24-bit mantissa. 24 bits is about 16 Meg, which is as high as you can count 1s in a REAL, as you have found. When you go to add 1.0000000 to 16 Meg in floating point math, the 1.00000 has to be decimal shifted (in binary) to align the decimals to do the add. Unfortunately, you have to shift it 24 bits to do that, and you really only have 23. So adding 1 to 16 meg is essentially the same thing as adding zero. If I do this in decimal, suppose I have a calculate with a 12 digit display that uses 12 decimal digits to do the math. I add 1 to 999,999,999,999 and get 1.0E12 (1,000,000,000,00x). I say x because the calculate only has 12 digits, and the x is the (unknown) 13th digit. If I add 1 to this, what am I adding it to? 1,000,000,000,000? 1,000,000,000,004? Who knows!? (Not the calculator.....) So remember, REAL data values have a precision of about 1 in 16 million (an 8-digit-plus-a-little calculator) best case. Adding 1 to a 9-digit number won't add anything. (It will in a DINT, however, which can go up to +/- 2G.) I did a totalizer once that had a DINT for the part before the decimal and a REAL for the part after, cascaded, so I could run a flow total for a year (up to 2 billion gallons). Sorry, Logix controllers don't do DOUBLE. There was a thread recently about limits on the input to the SIN instruction that also relates to the precision of a REAL..... Good luck and happy numbering!Dale, W8ABZ Great explanation Dale.Thank you for taking the time to write it out. n"}
{"text": "### Human: rsview 32 database tag setup How do you setup a plc5 timer in the database.i want to display a timer timing. ### Assistant: Are you asking how you may point out the Preset of a Timer from RSView32 ? Well, create a tag of type Analog, assign it the right Timer address (i.e. T4:0.PRE) and then you may use this tag in a Numeric Input object, so that the operator can change the preset value from the runtime. See also the User Manual - App. D for addressing syntax of your controller. If I've misunderstood your needs, please post again and add some details... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic what im trying to do is give the operator a visual count down of the timer that we are using to delay the restarting of a pump in our process. There are multiple ways to do that, but the easiest way is to do some math in the PLC and then point your tag at the result. In a MicroLogix 1500 or PLC5 it would look something like: XIC T4:0/TT SUB T4:0.PRE T4:0.ACC N7:0 In that example, if the timer is timing it does the math in the PLC and puts the result in N7:0 That help any? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1100 real time clock I am working on a project which has micrologix 1100 .Does micrologix 1100 having Real Time Clock i have checked in the RS logix 500 program of that particular processor but did't find any Real time clock .In my application i have to take some field values based on real time and store it in a integer values please anybody suggest to get the real time clock value to execute in program. ### Assistant: Yes, the real time clock is a feature of the ML1100. in RSLogix500 you will find this in the left side menu tree as a RTC tab within the Funtion file . see kb doc 38778. ( and the viewed answers at the bottom of this page ) Thanks for the Information. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View Studio 5.10 on Windows XP SP2 According to the release notes, Factory Talk View Studio ME 5.10 requires Service Pack 3 for Windows XP Professional. What problems may I experience if I install it on XP Pro SP2? ### Assistant: Actually, it's still supported in SP2. The new thing in v5.1 is the SP3 was *added*. In fact, v5.1 is supported all the way back to Windows 2000 (though I'm told this will be the last version to support W2K. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk transaction manager data points I have a stored procedure that returns a value from the data base. This returned value needs to be used in a calculation in a second transaction whose result is written to the database.As I see this I need two transactions. The first will read the value from the data base and write it to a data point. The second, triggered by the bindback integer data point, will make the appropriate calculation and write the result to the data base.Can this be done without any data being sent to or read from the PLC. In other words can I create data points that exist only in RSSQL? ThanksTony ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: MESSAGE INSTRUCTION Please expalin me evrything about message instruction. ### Assistant: Assuming you're asking about a Logix controller, I suggest to take a look to the Reference Manual, starting at page 144, and the Programming Manual. Ah, just a kind request... take the time to assign Kudos and to mark your threads as solved when they are, like I guess your two previous were... it is a good thing to do for the users who helped you, and also for the others to know the answer is correct. Thanks.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Read DH+ Diagnostic Counters 1756DHRIO Hello,how to Read DH+ Diagnostic Counters 1756DHRIO in RSLogix 5000 and read Active Node Table thank.. ### Assistant: You will have to use MSG instructions, of type CIP Generic, to retrieve these informations. See the following technotes for details (TechConnect authorization required) Aid 18310 - Aid 29909 - Diagnostic CountersAid 17690 - Active node table Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: real time in Controllogix and Compact Logix How we can get real time in Controllogix and Compact Logix ? ### Assistant: Are you asking about real time CLOCK ? In that case, you have to use a GSV instruction to get the processor's internal clock value, through the Wallclocktime object... see the following technotes: Aid 19844 - Aid 38232 See also the Reference Manual, page 197.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How PC can talk to PLC through Rslinx support? ### Assistant: Basically, RSLinx Classic is a DDE/OPC server (except Lite version) so every software that can be a client for these communications could be able to connect your PC to the PLC, to get real-time plant data. These softwares could be commercial SCADA or just some custom clients made using VB or C languages...also MS Excel could access PLC data easily... If you need more specific infos, please post again your particular needs.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ethernet communications I have 4 micrologix 1500 PLC's with 1761-net-eni ethernet interfaces on a local ethernet network. I would like to use a micrologix 1100 to read one bit from each of the 1500's. Can anyone provide me this a simple code example to do this? ThanksKudos! Thanks! ### Assistant: Hi Winchell, You cannot read just one bit. You will need to read at least an entire word. You can use the MSG instruction to do this. Attached an example of MSG in MX1100 to retrieve data from a MX1500 connected via -ENI. You may also find some useful infos in Aid 32926. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: communicating over a local ethernet network I have 4 micrologix 1500 PLC's with 1761-net-eni ethernet interfaces on a local ethernet network. I would like to use a micrologix 1100 to read one bit from each of the 1500's. Can anyone provide me this a simple code example to do this? Thanks ### Assistant: Here the answers to the thread.... :smileytongue: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=PLC_SLC&message.id=1024#M1024 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: [PanelView plus 700] how to display string array Hello, how to display in PanelView 700 ( RsView Studio 4.0 ) a string from an array of integers in a controller RSLogix 500 merci d'avance. ### Assistant: String Display in View ME need to be addressed to either A (ASCII) or ST (String) file types... N (integer) file cannot be used. You need first to convert your data in the controller; Aid 18660 and Aid 22714 could help on that... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: updation of Micrologix 1100 We downloaded the program to plc, Micrologix 1100 series B . fine. When we checked the webpage from browser, it says-Bad HTML OS. Recovery via control flash required. so we controlflashed the plc with frn 9.0 with 'program mode, default mode with df1 ch0, it start downloading but finishes with-'DTL_E_FAIL-I/O completed with errors. The command timed out to the device. WHAT AND WHERE IS THE PROBLEM. ragni ### Assistant: Error is described in Aid 41072. Inside the answer there are also other suggested technotes that could help (i.e. issues with Dual Core cpu in the PC) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk Activation server will not run. Hello, I have a Windows XP machine. The Factory talk Activation Server was running properly on this machine, but now it's not. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the activation server software, but to no avail. The event viewer gives the following two errors. The FactoryTalk Activation Service service terminated unexpectedly. and The server {FC4CCD86-D336-4651-B492-135286A33D80} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout. I am guessing some sort of DCom issue? Just looking for the easiset way to fix it? Thanks, ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 42300... try to retrieve more infos that may help. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I found the file RSrv.log, but it only had the following info: 11:08:29 (lmgrd) Hmmmm.... just another question.... which is the problem you have exactly ? I mean, the server doesn't start ? Or you get an error message ? Anyway, take a look to the following technote: Aid 35092 Sometimes it has helped with FTA server that didn't start.... - fuzzy logic When I press the start button for the factory activation server, it tries to start, but then within two seconds it's stops, and never does actually run. I do have valid licenses on the PC, when I click the refresh tab they appear. I also turned off the Windows firewall to ensure no necessary ports were being blocked. When I first noticed the server was not running was yesterday when I was attempting to return borrowed activations from my activation server. Please check out previous indicated technote and also Aid 35719.... they seem related to your problem.... - fuzzy logic You can check if your activation folder(where you put your activation files) is added in the Folders searched by a local activation server: on Settings tab of Activation Tool. I'm not sure if the two messages are related, but is {FC4CCD86-D336-4651-B492-135286A33D80} the TagServer. Did you ever get this problem resolved? If so how? If not...What version of the software are you using? Specifically RSView/FactoryTalk View SE? 11:08:29 (lmgrd) Using license file C:flexlmlicense.dat This tells me you have more then one licensing server installed. Another (third-party) product is also using FLEXlm/FLEXnet based licensing. That being said they often work together no problem, but sometimes they don't. It's also hard to manage sometimes and it all depends on versioning. To help identify. go to you command line toC:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareFactoryTalk Activationand runlmdown Do not actually go through with downing any of the daemonsInstead write the name of the daemons it identifies. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1400 UIE / UID When trying to use the UIE instruction to enable the desired user interrupts for the Micrologix 1400, RSLogix500 returns a verification error. ERROR: Invalid constant value-valid range = 0-127! This obviously renders the new additional Function Files available with the 1400 useless. (i.e.: HSC2-5 and EII4-7) Maybe crippled is a better word than useless. I have RSLogix 500 V8.10.00(CPR 9) Is anybody using these function files and their interrupts? The answer is 'No' unless I'm missing something. ### Assistant: What specific values generated this error ? Were any values accepted by the instruction ? Prior to the addition of the extra interrupts in the MicroLogix 1400, the UIE and UID instructions operated on bits 00 through 06 of the constant value you entered as an argument, which would correspond with the error message insisting on a decimal value between 0 and 127. The User Manual even had a note saying Note: Bits 7 to 15 must be set to zero. I'm upgrading my RSLogix 5000 to version 8.10 now, as I haven't used the MicroLogix 1400 yet. It will accept anything in the specified range of 0-127. Anything else returns an error. Okay, I see the MicroLogix 1400-specific interrupt bits described in 1766-RM001 on page 3-15. The only Note on that page is that Bit 15 must be zero. I get the same error code as you do, in version 8.10. Have you run this by RA Tech Support ? I am running RSLogix 500 version 8.10.00, Build 24, from the RSRevs 10 DVD set. I used the Ask a Question feature available in the A-B Knowledgebase to present the problem to A-B. Have you had any experience using that feature. I have a Tech Connect contract, but the issue isn't very pressing at this point so I thought I'd poke around the forum first before I give them a call. The Ask a Question feature is my favorite way to enter RA Tech Support cases, because it automatically creates a support case in the work queue of the right product specialists, and he or she already has an opportunity to read your input and do some research before you talk about the problem. It skips the usual what product, what revision, describe the problem conversation. Before it was implemented in this format, e-mails went to a overnight call attendant who attempted to figure out which queue to put them in, and they went to the back of the line. The new mechanism puts them in the right place, in the same order as incoming phone calls. I also like that cases you submit using this mechanism are logged and presented for your reference in the My Stuff section. Please post an update if you get a conclusive answer from Tech Support. Let me back up Ken's comment about Ask a Question (soon to change to Submit a Question because, believe or not, people were confusing that name with Live Chat) and say that AAQs work wonderfully to get answers that aren't about a down production line situation. We typically answer them within 2 business hours (using the 8-5 eastern time as the business hours). Ken mentioned that the case is visible in the My Stuff tab in the Knowledge Base. Currently it only shows your initial question and not the engineer's response. That will be changing real soon now. I know this because my other hat is as one of the KB admins and the bosses tasked me with getting it set up so that everything is handled within the AAQ interface in the KB. I can't give a hard date when this will change, but my goal is to have the change live by Halloween. JHutch PS If you aren't getting a response from your AAQ submission, let me know and I'll be happy to run things down from this side. It's been over 48 hours, and I have yet to receive any response from Rockwell about my 'Ask A Question' submission concerning this issue. The case number is 7287643. Running this down now. Thanks for the heads up. JHutch Well it's been almost a week and I haven't heard any response from Rockwell in regards to this case at all. Wow....that Ask a Question feature is really something special. I guess I'll have to get proactive and just call Rockwell. I'm really sorry about this. As I told you last week in a private message, I did escalate this to that group's supervisor. I'm really surprised that it didn't get responded to. I really don't know what the story is here, but I'm printing this out as I type and will be walking it over to the big manager in charge of all the support groups as soon as I hit 'Post' below. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communications between windows-CE PC and SLC 5-05 I need to communicate between SLC5-05, Panel-view plus and motion-system using Codesys software (running on windows CE PC) via ethernet. Codesys can work with DDE or OPC messages.Any ideas ? ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory password What is the factory password for the panelview 600 2711-T6c8L1 rs232. Thank You ### Assistant: When are you requested to enter a password ? Are you trying to access the Configuration Screen or something else ? I don't remember the existance of a factory password in PV...but maybe last vacation I had too much sunbathe ... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic No password. From the factory, there is no app loaded and the terminal goes right into the configuration menu. If you are seeing a password request, that means someone loaded an app into it at some point. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Flow meter variances after conversion I just converted a system from PLC5/80E to ControlLogix L63 and I am seeing strange behavior on every one of my flow meters and just about every analog device. The meters will work fine some times and be off by as much as 50% other times. I have two tank levels configured identical, one reads 0, as it should, and the other reads 16000 Gal. The tank is a 3000 gal tank!! All of the I/O for the system is SLC I/O configured remotely with block transfers. The I/O configuration did not change from the PLC5 to ControlLogix so my thought is that there is something different in the way ControlLogix processes the remote I/O?? Any tips, suggestions, articles would be greatly appreciated! ### Assistant: Junkerjorg, Could you please post the raw values for the two channel inputs as received in the Block Transfer Read data file(s) (like, are they both 3277-ish?) and an example of the logic used for scaling from raw to engineering units? I assume each reading is stable (even though incorrect) -- not jumping between a pair of values. Such jumping would indicate that multiple block transfers are configured into the same tag, or the value is being read while the MSG BTR is still in progress, etc. I assume the I/O wiring wasn't disturbed or changed (except for the RIO or other I/O network change at the controller end). I assume there are no duplicate rack numbers (or node numbers or whatever). What rev. L63? Using DHRIO? What rev? I assume no Rack Faults are being reported in the DHRIO, and no connection faults in the I/O Configuration tree in RSLogix5000 online. I assume any BTW of AI module configuration has been checked against the PLC-5 data file. I assume the number format is signed integer and not BCD (or if it is BCD, you are using an FRD instruction to get the decimal equivalent). Having said all that, I'm sure it'll be something else! Thanks!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: failure code 31 on pv600 where can I find the fault code for this panelview? ### Assistant: Unit is failing the stuck key test. Some technotes in Knowledgebase threat this error, more explicative is Aid 42387. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: unable to select a language in FT View Studio Hi, I've just installed FT view studio and have to select a language, but the language select box is blank. Has anyone an idea what's wrong? Thanks in advance! Jack ### Assistant: Does it happen when you're creating a new application ? Then you have to Un-install RSLinx Enterprise , FactoryTalk View ME Studio, FactoryTalk Services Platform and remove all .NET software installed in Windows.Re-install FactoryTalk Services Platform, FactoryTalk View ME Studio and RSLinx Enterprise, this install will also install the .NET version required by FactoryTalk. [Reference Aid 52759] Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I've uninstalled al the software, and try to reinstall the software, the only message what's pop-up is: An error occured while Windows Installer was initializing, set up will close. What's the next step? Jack The issue can be caused by a damaged .NET Framework component. Try the following steps to troubleshoot this issue: Download Microsoft Windows Installer CleanUp utility . Save the file to your Desktop. . Install this tool on your computer. Remove .NET Framework . Click Start -> (All) Programs->Windows Installer Clean Up. . Locate any .NET Framework software and remove it. . Restart the computer and see if the problem still exists. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic If I want run this clean-up program, there appears an error 1500, and after a reboot I get error message from FactoryTalk Activation tool, its error 2908. So there is something real wrong...... Hmmm.... :smileysad: not a nice day ... Windows Installer Error 1500Another installation is in progress. You must complete that installation before continuing this one. See this LINK I guess the second error is related to some missing component in .NET, so first repair the above.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I've solved the 1500 error, but it's still unable to reinstall FT service platform with framework.net.It is also impossible to install framework.net from the Microsoft site.While I try to install framework.net, I'll get a pup-up with an error 2908. after an OK I'll get an error 1935, after clicking OK the setup ends... It seems, the trouble is bigger than before.... Could you please attach some screenshots of the errors ? Disable 3rd party protective software such as anti-virus software and anti-malware utilities such as Norton and SpySweeper and attempt the installation again. Try to see Aid 33324. I've also found some sources in the web... LINK 1LINK 2LINK 3 Really hope that helps.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I've tried everything, but still got the same errors, so I've done a system reset to an early date.The error I which now appears is a  Fatal Execution Engine Error (0x7927f26e) What can I do to solve this? Regards Jack I'm going back to a back-up version of my lap-top right now, but will still have the language problem in FT view studio.How can I solve that problem without deleting .NET software? Since I tried the first time to install this software, I've trouble with nearly everything.The activation, the installation of roll-ups and patches, the version of FTSP, and now I want try to make a running program, I got these trouble...I've called with the Rockwell Helpdesk for days... How can Rockwell sell such programs? I'm very tired of these software troubles, and it seems there is nobody who can really give me the right answerer's, only suggestions. Regards Jack Jack, I'm afraid you still have problems... :smileysad: You may understand it is difficult to help you for others who are not able to be in front of your PC, especially in case where many different errors appear everytime you try something... anyway, I can only suggest what I would try to solve... :smileywink: Again, uninstall all the software as indicated in my first reply, if necessary use Microsoft cleanup utility to remove every remaining .NET installation.Important thing here is that NO version of .NET should remain installedReboot.... Then, after checking all other *things* are ok on the PC, I would try to install the software again, doing the steps the View Studio setup suggest, so that the .NET is the one needed by FactoryTalk. Also remember FactoryTalk View v5.0 is not compatible with XP sp3 and Vista.... I understand your frustration, but you know, unfortunately PCs often do strange things, every day people loose their time to fight with computers... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Well, the .NET part makes me think the problem is deeper than the RA software. If .NET won't install, ME will tank because it depends heavily on it. Unfortunately, .NET is Microsoft's baby and there is only limited things we can tell you to try. At this point, *I'd* recommend contact Microsoft about the .NET. However, knowing Microsoft products like I do, I'm going to bet their ultimate answer will be to wipe the computer and reinstall the OS from scratch. JHutch Well, I've installed FT view studio again, and as normal, there are some trouble's with the activation and I've no patches or rollups installed.But a can select language's now, and it is even possible to test the application.Within an hour, it is possible for me to call the rockwell helpdesk to solve the activation problem, and I'll reply here what the results are. Regards Jack n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rsview 32 works and runtime clarification Hi, can anyone advise me on this. Currently my application on site is running rsview32 v7.2 (CPR 7) runtime. If I'm editing the project file using rsview32 works v7.5(cpr 9), please advise if i will have issues when opening/ running the project on the pc running the rsview32 v7.2, is it downward compatible? when opening the project using v7.5, no conversion dialog box was asked. Thank you ### Assistant: For what I can remember, *moving* between same Major revisions (7.x to previous 7.x) is allowed... so it should work. Obviously new CPR9 features cannot be used, as the Runtime is CPR7. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error 346 on PV600 touch panel After black out my PV600 dont boot and show error 346. what can I do? Miguel ### Assistant: Didn't find detailed informations about this error, just it is a Minor or Terminal error. :smileysad: My opinion is you may try to redownload firmware to terminal using a Flash ATA card, and see if it solves. Otherwise I suggest to call in Technical Support, they may have more info or hints for you. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Bit shift instruction Hi. I'm having difficulty getting the BSR or BSL to work with non-array type variables? For example, I want to shift the bits in a single DINT. Is this not possible without using a math instruction? Thanks. Len ### Assistant: In CLX it has to be of an array data type. This BSL is shifting a single bit across 32 bit word. Hi Len, as Smoke wrote, the Array operand in the BSL/BSR requires an Array tag, so you need to define it as TAG[1] or greater for the dimension. To change the tag dimension you need to enter the Tag editor; edit the Data Type and change Array Dimension 0 field from zero to one or greater if you have more than 32 bits to shift. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the help. What I wanted to do though was shift the bits in a single DINT, not an array of DINTs. It seems a bit strange to me to not have this ability in the BSR/BSL instructions. The solution I used was to divide the DINT by two (as suggested by a colleague). Len Len, Another instruction useful for shifting bits is the BTD (Bit Distributor) instruction. This lets you move a selected range of bits from one SINT/INT/DINT to a different range of bits in another SINT/INT/DINT. The BTD doesn't use a CONTROL structure, enable bits, that kind of stuff -- it's an immediate thing like any math instruction that executes whenever the rung is true. So it doesn't have a low-to-high transition requirement, reset, etc. The bits you don't copy across are left in last state (sort of like a masked move), which may or may not be what you want to do. Just so you have all the available bit-dinking tricks up your sleeve! Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Serial number Trying to load RSLogix 500 and I do not have 10 digit serial number---how do I find the number? ### Assistant: The Serial Number check during installation is used only to populate the *Help - About* screen, and also only the first four digits you enter are checked to verify it is a valid product serial number; next six digits are not examined so they can be 123456 or anything else. Using RSLogix 500, first four digits dictates the functionality, so enter the following based on your activation: Prefix 1012xxxxxx gives Standard functionality.Prefix 1013xxxxxx gives Starter functionality. Note: normally the Serial Number is printed on a label over Software Box containing Installation disk, and also over the *old* Master Activation disk or for FactoryTalk Activation, in the red envelope, also inside the sotware box. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrlogix 1500 LRP Series C and expansion module 1769-IQ6OW4 with V8.10 [CPR9]. Are there any known issues where the processor randomly faults with error message module does not match the i/o configuration. ### Assistant: Is it the only expansion module? Is the Bus terminator properly installed (1769-ECR) ?Which is the exact error code do you get ? Sometimes this error comes due to hardware failure, or faulty connection between module and base .... Try to re-read I/O Config to verify the software populates the configuration with the correct I/O. There was a known problem in previous RSLogix versions (v7.x) where the Extra Data Lenght for that module was badly configured; just take a look it should be 5. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS5K Compare Tool - error Unable to get interface to controller object Technote ID 39051 in the Knowledgebase describes a RSLogix5000 compare tool problem. The compare tool is unable to get interface to controller object. I have installed V3.0.5.73 of the Compare tool and still have the problem. Has a solution been found? ### Assistant: AJZ, The only time I've had problems with the compare tool is when either ACD file includes Trend definitions. Try copying the ACD files to new copies, opening them up, deleting any Trends, saving, then running the Compare Tool on them. While you have them open, you might as well save as L5K and save a step. Aim the Compare Tool at the L5K files. I don't know if this is your issue, but I hope this helps! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Storage memory of Panel View Component I need know internal storage memory of Panel View Component ### Assistant: PanelView Component models currently have 64 MB of memory To see the memory usage, enter configuration mode on the terminal. Select the System Information option. Scroll through the information to locate memory Usage. On some terminals, click the More button to see Memory Usage. See User Manual starting at page 47. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Active Display Client AppStart for dbView.EXE I have two Active Display Clients each making a call AppStart C:program filesdbviewdbview.exe.One machine makes this call and displays a grid control of the alarm files.The other machine displays an error dialog box indicating MSFLEXGRD.OCX is not registered.Can anyone tell me where to find the setup file for dbview.exe so I can re-install the App? ### Assistant: I would do the following: 1. Check in faulting PC the existance of that file in the c:windowssystem32 folder2. If the file is there, un-register it using the command regsvr32 -u c:windowssystem32msflxgrd.ocx3. Go in folder c:windowssystem32 of working PC, copy that file and paste it in the faulting PC, same folder4. Register it using the command regsvr32 c:windowssystem32msflxgrd.ocx5. Try the application Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Sorry, I did install the MSFlexgrd.ocx on the problem machine then it asked for CRYSTL32.OCX, however this one would not register.Found an installation of the application located on the RSView32 server. One the application was reinstalled the problem was fixed. I would still like to know where the application normally resides? Hmmm. understand... too many dependencies, so the registration of the first .ocx wasn't enough... :smileysad: Anyway, the software you're asking for, seems to be a report viewer, used to see the alarm log... my guess is it doesn't come within RSView32 installation... did you already try to look in the dbview folder for a readme file or something like this ? Or, when application launches, is the Help - About available in a menu ? This to try to see if you may find who realize that software, and then search for the installation files. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View 32 and Compact Logix string tag linking issue Dear all, I am struck in small issue with the RS View 32 and RS Logix 5000.I unable to create a tag of string in RS View 32 with device data source from compact Logix L23 it is giving some error.In Compact logix i have taken a string value but unable to link with RS View 32 .Any help appreciable Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: Hi, I've tested and found same problem as you, so the following will solve the problem: 1. Create an ANALOG tag2. Browse to the string tag in the CompactLogix (example: StringTag ) 3. Select the StringTag.DATA[0] element and press OK 4. Remove the .DATA[0] manually from the end of the item address 5. Change the tag data type to STRING. See attachment...This works fine in my application. :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks a lot You're welcome ! :smileyhappy: ...any Kudos for this poor guy ?! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Does 1756-ENBT support either ISO or UDP? Hello everyone. I have an application where I need to communicate between controllogix and 3rd party PLC via ethernet. The other PLC supports UDP and ISO on TCP/IP. I can't find any documentation to suggest that the 1756-ENBT supports these application layers but I have a feeling it does. Can anyone confirm or reject this? Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: As far as I am aware if the other PLC doesn't support Ethernet I/P this won't be possible with 1756-ENBT. You could use a 1756-EWEB, but it isn't straight forward and you would have to write the socket connection. Thanks for the reply. Is there anyone else who can confirm this? I confirm, you'll need open-sockets feature of 1756-EWEB. I suggest to take a look to the User Manual, and also the Knowledgebase Aid 48879 for a list of sockets infos; Aid 34357 also contains an example to send UDP Multicast Messages from ControlLogix PLC (TechConnect Authorization required for these technotes) - fuzzy logic Take look at this manual appendix B:- http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/enet-um527_-en-p.pdf Hmm. So the cheaper one won't do the trick...I wonder if a gateway would be less expensive? What do you think? BTW thanks for the help so far. Which is the PLC do you have to communicate to ? This could help to suggest an available gateway. However, it could be more easy to realize it in that manner, it depends on how many data have to be transferred, essentially what you need to obtain. Obviously, open-sockets require develop skills and thus time to spend for; gateways may do the trick easier, I mean with less development costs. NOTE: Be aware -EWEB module cannot control I/O, just messaging; if you need to control I/O over Ethernet/IP from ControlLogix, you will have to use one -ENBT for that, and one -EWEB to communicate with the other PLC via open-sockets. Using the gateway solution you will need one -ENBT module (it can control I/O and also act as a *scanner* for the gateway), and the gateway device. About the costs... it depends by gateway model and manufacturer... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic The PLC I am communicating with is a Siemens S7315-2PN/DP. I am using the Open TCP/IP communication blocks which, of course, support open socket communication. The data is process data but not cyclic I/O. I don't mind development time for the socket services so I may go that route. Thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ICM Board Welcome! Welcome to the ICM Products board! We are also launching ICM Online Chat support starting Monday for the North America market (some of the other regions already had ICM chat support). So please check out our Online Chat support service for in support TechConnect customers! JHutch ### Assistant: Good news!! Congratulation !! Come on, folks! I convinced my bosses that there was a need for this forum ... and now no one is posting! Let's get some good ICM discussions! JHutch JHutch, your going to have to be patient with the ICM crowd, it takes a while but then builds up steam. Also ICM is not a well known name outside Rockwell. Condition Monitoring is better. Rockwell is one of the only companies out there that does full Integrated Condition Monitoring into DCS and Controls systems, most just toss an 4 to 20 ma output, or leave them seperate. so the name ICM, well you might want to change to Condition Monitoring. More people will know what you are talking about. That sounds good to me. Anything that makes thing clearer for folks is a good thing (and I admit, my experience in this area is small enough that I'm open to advice). JHutch The move to Condition Monitoring was good.. Maybe Integrated Condition Monitoring & PdM would work too. It will take time for people to come and use the forums to a great extent. I tried previously when the ICM products were commingled with the HMI stuff and it was just too hard. I tried the online chat support too and the tech just sorta looked at you funny (okay, maybe I just felt funny) when they indicated that it was a product line that wasn't supported in chat... Until a few days ago, I didn't know that the new forum section was available nor that ICM help via chat was available... Thanks for moving things forward! Thanks, Brian. Sometimes it's a fine line between doing what I can to make life easier for you guys and making it all possible to handle by our support folks. I'm glad we were able to help out in this area! JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 1000 project and tag updates I have an application that has a screen that is used for adjusting a number in the PLC. This screen is not the main screen after a power down/up cycle. When this screen is brought up it always writes a zero to the tag I need to adjust in the PLC. I do not want this to happen. Is there a way to always make sure that this number stays the same as it was unless I want to change it? Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: Probably, but it depends on the protocol between the PV and the controller. If it is Ethernet, for instance, you can change the write to controller on startup option from Use Terminal Presets to Use Last Terminal States. Once it's set the second option, the PV will write the last thing it saw in that location. Some protocols won't let you change this setting (Remote I/O comes to mind), so as I said, this is protocol dependent. JHutch PS This option is under the Power Up tab in the Application Settings in the PB32 app. Yeah thanks Hutch. I know of this option. Problem being I have other screens that I do not want to write to controller on start up. Any other suggestions? Nope, that's an all or nothing setting in the PanelView. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 700 F85 Port 5 DPI Loss Hello,I am having difficulties with a ControlLogic PLC controlling two PowerFlex drives using Devicenet. Their are two drives, one on and one as a hot standby. Every 4 or 5 hours the active drive faults (code F85), but not the standby. Not sure what the problem is. Any suggestions? Could it be the devicenet cable (I am not sure the cable is a Devicenet cable)? If so why is it only on the running drive, and why is it only periodically?Could it be a power issue? Also, I have set Parameter 10 and 11 to run on Last value but this does not stop the problem. Please help. Background information:drive is: PowerFlex 700 VC 480V 77A [8040] rev 4.010 The communication card is 1756-DNB rev 10.004 The controller is 1756-L63 ver 17 ### Assistant: It could be related to noise problem...try to take a look to the following thread and indicated suggestions: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=921#M921 About ferrite cores, see the Installation Instructions ... this document is for PF700s, but is similar for PF700 VC. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for posting the specific fault code; it is very important. An error code 7x (75 for DPI Port 5, the internal network adapter) indicates that the network connection between the scanner and the 20-COMM-D has failed. This can be caused by noise on the DeviceNet network, or by failure of a physical network connection (unplugging !) or by the disconnection or turning off of the DeviceNet scanner. Error code 8x (85 for DPI Port 5) is different. It indicates that the 20-COMM-D and the PowerFlex drive have stopped communicating over the DPI ribbon cable. This is why the Fault State parameters do not take effect, because the 20-COMM-D can't send them to the PowerFlex. True DPI failures are very uncommon. They are more common when you are using a long DPI cable (like with the XCOMM external interface box) but there aren't a lot of options for shielding or routing of a four-inch ribbon cable on the internal adapter. I'd say either the ribbon cable has been pinched or loosened or otherwise damaged, or that the 20-COMM-D is itself failing. You could replace the ribbon cable or the 20-COMM-D straightaway, or continue to diagnose by checking the DPI error counters in the 20-Comm-D diagnostic object (using Drive Executive or the HIM module). Hello, we have isolated the problem. The Devicenet cable connected to Port 5 is receiving interference from the HIM cable. We removed the HIM and the cable and have not had a problem since. Wew have ordered ferrite cores for the drives for permanent installation. Thanks to allNathan n"}
{"text": "### Human: About panel view 1250+ I face problem in RS view s/w 1) I can't modify keypad or use costume make keypad.2) use of pan drive to load program. I can upload program in pan drive but if we create runtime file in pane drive then pan drive get detected but can't see project ### Assistant: 1) Panelview Plus system keypad cannot be modified... :smileysad: which custom keypad do you want to use ? If it is an activeX, then you cannot install it on a PVP... :smileysad: 2) Did you put your .mer file in the following folder, inside USB pen drive ? (Rockwell SoftwareRSViewMERunTime). This is the needed path to let PVP see your application. Also be aware not all USB drives work in PV+, and that PVP firmware Versions before 4.0 do not recognize USB Flash Drives. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Output phase loss PF70,PF700S How can i detect simply the output phase loss with PF70 or PF700S??The load loss is a indirect conclusion.I need direct.I mean one bit in the fault word for example.I think this is a simply problem but unsolved for the Rockwell,sorry but i think this is the truth.I need your help,because we will change the drive,if there is no solution (product of other company). ### Assistant: These drives don't actually monitor each output phase from the drive nor do they have a specific bit associated with the phase. Other parameters in the drive detect and react if a problem occurs within the drive or to the load. The drive will fault or alarm (however you have it programmed) if it thinks there is a problem with the load, especially for load loss. The question is: What action do you want the drive to take if there is an output phase loss? Fault? If so, then the drive can be programmed to do so. You could monitor parameter 006 (output voltage) and if it drops to a particular level then you'll know if you've lost a phase....of course, the drive probably would've faulted by then. Ok.I understand you,but now we want to use the drive in a special situation.We want to check the motor before start the drive and after we would like to start and watch the error in the running phase. Now we tried this thing with 3 drives.1.PF70Before move: we used the static tune option.(it is not nice but useful)If we disconnected the U phase the tune was working without error,but the output voltage went high. And if we disconnected the V or W phase the tune went to error state.In moving: we checked the output voltage and flux current for the output phase loss,but it is indirectly conclusion.2.PF700:Before move: same as PF70In moving: we have output phase loss 3.PF700SBefore move:we used the power diagnostic test bit. That is working fine without problem.In moving: same as PF70So i would like mix the PF700S power diagnostic test with the PF700 output phase loss. Now i cannot this,but i think only one thing is missing a new firmware with this function for the drive(for example PF70,PF700 and PF700S). First, you can check the drive in the running state by disconnecting a motor lead and then starting the drive. But you also have to remember that doing this during a diagnostic tuning procedure may yield different results since the drive isn't actually running...it's being tuned. Tuning just involves the drive figuring out the dynamics of the motor based on what it sees. If the tuning operation is interrupted during this step, then you'll end up with a drive who's setup is incomplete. My advice would be to let the drive autotune completely, then run your tests. It would be nice to provide specific diagnostic information from the drive but there are so many parameters that are evaluating the drive and motor that some diagnostics may end up being redundant. Summary:1.I want to check the all system before i want to start. The check means the drive checks its outputs.It works good with PF700S.(power diagnostic test)PF70,PF700 are bad because the drive cant detect the U phase loss in static tune option,just in V or W phase(they dont have this option,therefore we use the static tune)2.I also want to check the system in running phase. This also means detect its error. The important error is the output phase loss. This error exists only in PF700.So as i wrote in the previous message i would like to mix the PF700S power diagnostic test with the PF700 output phase loss error. Now i cannot this,therefore i would like from the Rockwell,allow this functions in the other drives(PF70,PF700,PF700S).This application would be run in a nuclear plant. The motors are in very dangerous zone. This problems are our request.In additionally the Danfoss FC300 can detect output phase loss in all phase and also can detect that the motor has been connected to the drive(but unfortunatelly this is a warning function).My opinion is we(Rockwell) also can but not in same drive. Thanks and it would be good if somebody could help by Rockwell n"}
{"text": "### Human: Safety I/O configurations Hi,I use the 1734-OB8S Safety I/O modules, and use also the Configuring GuardLogix to Control POINT Guard I/O Modules Guide. My problem is that I don't have the 1734-OB8S moduels now. It is possible to configuarte the Modules Offline? or must I online with the safety module? On the Page 11 of the Configuring GuardLogix to Control POINT Guard I/O Modules Guide. I can't fill in anything! everything is grey :( ### Assistant: The GuardLogix Safety Editor is only included with the Full and Professional editions of RSLogix 5000. Service and Standard editions allow upload/download and view capabilities, but you cannot edit or add safety tags, safety instructions or safety modules.Alternatively, the GuardLogix editor can be purchased separately and added to Standard edition to gain safety functionality. The catalog number for this part is 9324-RLDGLXE. NOTE: If you are attempting to edit or create a Safety project with a version of RSLogix 5000 other than that listed above, you will observe the following symptoms:Safety Task is grayed out (unable to edit)Safety module configurations cannot be edited or changedSafety modules are not available in the pick list for you to add to your I/O configurationYou cannot select L61S, L62S or L63S when creating a new projectYou cannot Safety Lock/Unlock, create or delete a Safety Signature Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Establishing a link on PanelView 600 Hi I've been trying to establish a connection from my Laptop to a PanelView 600 unit through USB to RS232 converter, used both DH485 UIC and RS-232 DF1 drivers on RS linx v2.51 but with no luck. The same has happened also while trying to connect to my microLogix 1200. I don't get any problem when using my office desktop computer to connect with both units as it has a serial port but it is a hassle to carry it with me to site as it is not compatible. Do I need a special USB to serial port converter? Please help me. ### Assistant: Based on the Panelview / PLC model and its communication protocol, you may use one of the following converters from Rockwell Automation: 1747-UIC - USB to DH-485 adapter. 9300-USBS - USB to DF1 Full Duplex adatper. Other manufacturers made generic USB to Serial converters, but some of them don't work with RSLinx. Maybe other users can suggest some models they've tried with success... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView Enterprise File Viewer I am using this utility to temporarily gain access to the ME alarm log file. It serves its purpose for now. I am trying to use the command line switches so I can automate the creation of a CSV file at the end of each shift. It appears as though it accepts the history file, setup file and CSV file as arguments but it doesn't allow me to pick the version of the View application. I get an error that says The alarm setup file and log file can not match. I can recreate this error message if I manually use the utility program and select the wrong version of the View application. So I am confident that without defining this argument I will get this message. The command line won't accept this as an argument. Anyone know any ways around this? Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: Pretty old thread... just to try to help anyway.... :smileytongue: I've tested the conversion using last Viewer Utility version 1.6.03 from Aid 33924 and seems to work fine for me... :smileysurprised: I've used the following syntax in the Command line: RSView Enterprise File Viewer.exe /ma history.alm MachineAlarms.mal test.csv Be aware to leave the history.alm file together with the other files of the M_Alarms folder of your Runtime, as they are needed during conversion... if you just copy the history.alm, you will get the error you've mentioned. If you still have problem, try to attach to a new post a .zip file with your files, I may test them if you like... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Data Preserved Download Tool I tried using the Data Preserved Download Tool on a project is V17 and recieved the following error: Process performance counter is disabled; so the requested operation cannot be performed Any ideas on what to do to fix this? ### Assistant: You may find many comments about this error around in the web...just google it... (process performance counter) :smileytongue: Anyway, it seems to be solvable with the following, if you want try: 1. Run REGEDIT 2. Perform a search on the string Disable Performance Counters. 3. Set the value to 0 4. Continue search (F3) 5. repeat steps 3, 4 until done. USE CAUTION WHEN EDITING THE REGISTRY. MISTAKES IN REGISTRY EDITING CAN CORRUPT THE REGISTRY TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO REINSTALL THE OPERATING SYSTEM. Be sure to export the registry to a new file name before making changes in the original registry. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Unfortunately this did not work. The only register that had performance counters was already set to 0. This problem showed up with V1.4 (downloaded from the net), so I uninstalled it and went back to the V17 install disk. I installed V1.1.2 off the install disk and it gives me the same error code. Is this a common problem with this tool? Is there anything else I can try? :smileysad: Never seem this error with Data Preserved Download Tool, and also nothing found around in KB... it could be unknown or unrelated to the tool.... Anyway, trying to help, I've found some suggestions here see the follow-ups and the indicated link. However use caution if you try something...backup registry first... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic You can also use the original Tag Upload Download Tool (distributed on RSLogix 5000 CD prior to V17, but still works with V17). This tool however requires an activated version of RSlinx Classic (ie Single Node, OEM Gateway). Available in KB for tech connect AID 32503 n"}
{"text": "### Human: E21 in Ultra 3000 I have changed an Ultra 200 1398-DDM-019 with an H-4030-P-H motor to an Ultra 3000 2098-DSD-020 with an MPL-A420P-H motor, with a 2000 ppr encoder.The configuration for the application is with step/direction mode, it receives pulses from an Bosch interface. The machine is a Bosch packaging machine.The application seems to work ok, but I received very often an E21 error message, which I cannot solve.Do you have any recommendation.Thank you ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 29066 ... it seems a noise related problem... also the attached screenshot gives some indications of possible cause... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I don't know if you've solved the problem yet or not, but I would look into whether or not you have supressors on your relays in this system. If you're doing a step/direction configuration, the 5VDC signal is very sensitive to noise on the line. So if you have noise going into your 24V or 5V supply, this noise will go into the drive. I had a customer had this exact problem once and once he installed suppresors across his DC relays, the problem went away. We have installed a Bosch packaging machine recently and consistently we been getting a E21 error! Looks like were not the only once having this problem interfacing with a bosch interface card! Is there anyway of running the cables of the drives thru some noise filter! Any recommendations will be appreciated! n"}
{"text": "### Human: What kind of printer will work on a compact logic PLC I am trying to find what different printers are available that can be hooked to a compact logic PLC. We are getting a machine built in Europe with a compact logic PLC on it. The machine builder is saying that there are only 2 printers that they could find that will meet the requirements. Lexmark 524 and an Epson printer, not sure of the model number of the Epson. One concern we have is will there be a printer available in 2 or 3 years for replacement if this printer quits. I was wondering if anyone is doing something similar to this and if so what printer you are using. Below is the printer requirements. - ATA Codes- Print different colors per line- Page Break- Ascii string data Thanks ### Assistant: Columbus NE, Here's a link to an Epson document that may help you: Epson Impact Printers Quick Ref: http--www.epson.com-cmc_upload-bnr_images-SIDM_Line_Guide_2008.pdf What's really nice about this document for you is that each printer's description ends with a list of Epson and competing printers that the given printer is an Ideal Replacement for, including Panasonic, Lexmark, Okidata, etc. Nice of them to give you a list of where else you might find suitable printers. As for the serial interface, it looks like most of the Epson printers listed have a slot that will hold a serial option card. Not sure if any of the Epson printers listed in that publication meets your needs, but at least you've got a better launching point for your search, with a nicely-compiled list of stuff to check out. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Comunication between Panel View Component with Omron CPM2A Please, someone know if its posible conect a Panel View Component using a Host Link protrocol to a CPM2A using Open option in device menu but I can´t found any option or information to comunicate with this device. Thank you for your time. ### Assistant: Did you already take a look to the Host Link driver help ? Open Addressing is explained there, manual indicates it should be used with newer Omron Controllers. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DDE Print Command from RSView32 to Excel I need to know how, if possible, to send a DDE print command from RSView32 to Excel to print a specific tab (worksheet) in a open Excel spreadsheet. I have found how to print a worksheet or tab that is open in a multi-worksheet Excel file (DDEExecute Excel|System [Print]), but not how to print a tab or worksheet that is not selected. For example, if the Excel file Test.xls has three worksheets or tabs - Test1, Test2, and Test3 - and worksheet (tab) Test1 is displayed, I want to be able to print worksheet (tab) Test3 (or switch to worksheet Test3, then print it). Can anyone help me with the proper syntax to use? Thanks in advance! Rick Huser ### Assistant: You have to first select desidered worksheet, then issue a Print command... Here the syntax you may try: DDEExecute Excel|System [WORKBOOK.SELECT(Test3)][PRINT()] Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks!! fuzzy logic - This works great. I tried several other things that didn't work, you had the answer right away! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Loading From Memory Module to PLC (Micrologix 1500) Hi, Does anyone have the process for loading a PLC config from a memory module to the processor, I appreciate any help Thanks in advance Mike T ### Assistant: You may do the Load either from within the software (RSLogix 500, on the menu, Select Comms-->EEPROM-->Load from EEPROM), or using the Status bits S:1/10 and S:1/11 as indicated in the Online Help of RS500...you may find an extract here attached to this post.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus 600 continually reboots - no firmware? I've just unwrapped a brand new PV+ 600. When I power it up it just keeps rebooting - you get the initial screen for about a second, then it goes blank for a few seconds, and repeats over & over. Both (green & red) LEDs are flashing, which according to the installation instructions means EBC boot loader firmward failed or is missing. Reload firmware using Firmware Upgrade Wizard (FUW) utility. Is repeatedly rebooting a symptom of this or does it mean there is something else wrong with it? I can't connect to it using the FUW, because it keeps rebooting itself so I can't try sending it the firmware - a bit of a chicken and egg situation there. I guess the only way to get firmware to it when it has none is to use a Compact Flash card? Is it normal for these to be supplied without firmware? Mike ### Assistant: Hi Mike, it seems to be a defective logic module, so you may try to change it if available, or send the panelview to repair. You may want to try a firmware upgrade, but I think it will not work... Obviously it isn't a normal situation, as all the PVP come with the firmware installed.... - fuzzy logic If the firmware upgrade is going to work at all, you'll need to use a compact flash card to do it. Since it doesn't stay on long enough for a network connection to be established, that's the only option. Though, since it is brand new, just returning it is an option, too. Depends on how much time you have to fiddle with it. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 700 Displayes Power poard checksum 105 on power up Help! ### Assistant: In the following image, the indications from the User Manual: Unfortunately, the second suggestion seems to be the one that applies to you... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I have seen this occur when the aux input cards have not seated well on 700H drives. Sometimes it will reset after a powerdown of a few hours n"}
{"text": "### Human: Emonitor Web Is Emonitor Web supported by any other internet explorer than Windows IE? I tried using it with Opera, but the reports and plot windows were blank. All I can see was the Archive page or report main page. I cant see any data in Pop-up windows. ### Assistant: For what I may find in documentation, only MS Internet Explorer is supported. Maybe other users have done experiences using other browsers.... - fuzzy logic The plot views are all done in Active X which means IE only since it's proprietary to M.S. n"}
{"text": "### Human: COP instruction about UDT Hi， I have a question about COP instruction.A COP is used in the rung below. It is used to map the input of SafetyI/O 1791DS-IB12/A to a UDT.There are 1 INT(NotAvail) and 2 BOOL tags(NotAvail01,Not Avail02) introduced in the destination.The NotAvail tag is described as Pad to force UDT to 8 bytesThe input map proved to be OK.But I wonder how the COP works and why Pad INT is added? Any response is appreciated. ### Assistant: Hi, it has been quite difficult to understand, thus I think it will be also difficult to explain…. :smileysad: The following is to try to describe the 1791DS structure created as module-defined data type when you insert and configure your safety module; if you open it, you will see its size is 8 bytes, although it seems to be a structure of just 16 bits…. so we may expect it to be just 4 bytes in size (the minimum size when you create a new structure), as this should be enough to contain all the 16 bits… First we have to know that the first member of the tag structure associated with safety input data contains the status of the connection. This member is a pre-defined data type called CONNECTION_STATUS. This data type has a size of 4 bytes, just 2 bits are used, RunMode and ConnectionFaulted. You may see these two bits inside the module-defined data type of your 1791DS-IB12…although they seems to be just two bits, the entire Connection_Status structure is inside there, and obviously occupies the first 4 bytes…now the UDT to store these data should be the same size, so in your UDT you have the same two bits and one unused Integer (all are packed in 4 bytes, 2 bytes for the 2 bits and 2 bytes for the INT) You may see this if you just crete an UDT using only these data… see attached image. Now it is quite easy to understand the other part of the UDT, which contains the Safety Inputs data in the remaining 4 bytes (where only the first 16 bits are used); looking the attached table, you may see there are two bits unused in the structure, so the why you have NotAvail01 and Not Avail02 bits in the UDT. Below is a summary of the 1791DS structure. Apologize if it is not so clear…. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks a lot...I understand why the pads are inserted now....but I do think it is a magic...:robotmad: ...so I have deserved a Kudos ! :smileytongue: Nice ! Thanks for your feedback, really appreciated ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF40 DATA OVER ETHERNET I was planning to use PF40 with low HP motors and control them over Ethernet using the 22 or 20-Comm-E card (dont remember wich one is the rigth), anyway ; I also need to get some info about motor status like comand frecuency, actual frecuency and current, but into RsLgx 5000 when I configured the drive comm device I see the datalinks grayed so I cant use it to read current or any other data out the default data I guess, my question is if I go Devicenet comms instead of Ethernet could I configured datalinks just like the PF 700 drives or this is a PF 70/700 exclusive feature Thanks R Walle ### Assistant: Unfortunately, Powerflex 4x has not the possibility to use Datalinks... Only way you have in order to read/write parameters is through Explicit Messaging. Aid 38670 22-COMM-E User Manual - chapter 6 as examples Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: help Good afternoom guys I need your help, I want to know the configutarion of cable to Communication between paneview 600, 2711-T6M and Micrologix 1400 if can sent it me I really gratefull your help. the number of item can help me to. thanks a lot and have a good day.manuel viveros. ### Assistant: Assuming you're asking for a 2711C-T6M... if you have a different model, please post again. See the following image for complete infos to connect the Panelview Component to MX1400 serial channel 0.... :smileywink:Ethernet communication could also be used, just you need a standard Cross cable to go directly, Patchcord cables if you go through Ethernet switch. See also Panelview Component User Manual and MX1400 User Manual for more infos. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: rslogix500 Can anyone discuss on how to tune pid and othe setting in pid instruction in rslogix 500. ### Assistant: As you know, PID setup isn't an easy matter...sometimes it requires external softwares to tune up well... Anyway, usually a good point to start is inside Micrologix Instruction ManualAt chapter 19 (page 19-23) you may find out a PID tuning procedure that usually give you a good starting point, and some stability to your control loop.Be aware that parameters scaling could be different, take it just as a guide to the steps to make. Also check the Instruction Manual of your PLC model (SLC or Micrologix) to understand the correct Parameters for your PID instruction. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to disable some of the alarm tags in RSViewSE? There're some alarm tags in my RSViewSE project.Now the customer have a new requirement. They want a function that they can disable some of the alarm tags when they need.For example, when a motor is being repaired, they don't want to see the alarms(that is related to that motor) in the alarm summary.Is there anyone have the experience? ### Assistant: when you do't that alarm, you can create one button and issue command SuppressOn Motor1Tripped when it is time to resume the alarm, you ca create another button and issue command  SuppressOff Motor1Tripped where Motor1Tripped is the alarm tag in HMI tag database n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC5 & PFlex using Datalinks over DeviceNet Is it possible to use datalinks, over DeviceNet, with new PFlex 755 and PLC5? PLC5 only being able to do 16 bit and PFlex using 32 bit. Some drives, I think, had a way to set the type of size for the datalinks, either 16 or 32. Thanks, ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 39172... it explains how to send data from an 16bit controller to a drive with 32bit datalinks. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Sample Applications I have just recently installed FactoryTalk View ME 5.10. I have several applications that I work with, so I deleted one of the sample apps to clear up the list a little. When I did this, FactoryTalk View shut down immediately and wants to run a Windows Installer when I open FactoryTalk View. Why are the sample apps unremoveable? Is there a way to install without installing the sample apps, or a way to remove them safely? ### Assistant: From Aid 33998 This happens because the product expect that the sample applications are part of the Installation and are required to run and it tries to reinstall the applications.Cure: Repair the RSView ME applicationPrevention: Do not remove the sample applications as it will eventually lock up RSView ME Unfortunately there is no option to install the software without the Sample Applications.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic This wonderful feature seems to have been around since version 4. Perhaps if enough of us complain about it they might get around to fixing this by the time version 6 comes out. It really is a nuisance for those of us that have several applications to support. John, off topic but you pick up the term feature from an AB instructor? I am asking because when ever I go to one of there week long classes and something quirky comes up they always say that's a feature. All instructors and support people - not just Rockwell use the term undocumented feature when referring to quirks. They only mention bugs when talking about cartoon characters. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC5/05 - Failed to Compile! Online Edit Error I am using RSLogix500 (V8.00) & RSLinxLite (V2.54) to make an online edit over eNet to a SLC5/05 (L552C FRN10). When I press the Accept Current Rung Edits button, everything appears to halt (including communications to my SCADA System) for about 45 seconds, then I get the following error: Program could not be compiled!Online Edit ErrorGoing Offline and it boots me offline. When I go back online, the edits I was trying to make are gone. this occurs even if I actually make no changes, just go into rung edit mode, then back out. Everything 'Verifies' OK. Any thoughts. ### Assistant: There are and have been some issues with different versions of rslogix 500 and online editing. This has caused processor faults and some of the issues that you have described.The best solution for me in the past was to get to a point where the plant was stable and I could take the affected processor offline. Put the key in program mode, and download the current program back into the processor. This way you will be performing edits on a processor with a program that was saved with the same version of rslogix 500 that is on your pc or laptop. Jim Thanks Jim. It worked like a champ :smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Question about older version of Logix 5000 Is version 9.00.00 of RS Logix 5000 still available for download? I do not see anything older than version 10 on the software updates page. My company has a machine that still uses this version. They do not want to chance updating the firmware and something going wrong as that machine is constantly in use, it is using two controllogix L55 processors with large programs, and no body has a PC with version 9.. The only way we can go online is using from the Versaview at the machine that has the older software installed. thanks, ### Assistant: [Aid 46865] RSLogix 5000 Software (pre-v10) is no longer shipping. Users should first attempt to check their own software inventory for installation discs. Special requests for Software is handled through Technical Support and depends upon entitlement and activation. So, contact the Technical Support or your Rockwell Automation representative to see if they can help you to find the old version. :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can't Find License File I have a borrowed activation for RSNetworks. I have had this for a few months and it works fine. I just borrowed another activation for RSView32. The Factory Talk Activation tool shows the activation there. But RSView32 still comes up in demo mode. One of the tech notes said to look at the license file for possible corruption. I CANNOT FIND THE FILE|||. I have searched my entire hard drive in various ways for the extension '.lic'. I made sure to look for hidden files, etc. Is there some other extension this might be under? I did find one tech reference to '.lic.txt', but that didnt' work either. ### Assistant: Just some questions to help me or other users to reply... :smileysurprised: Are you logged on the client computer with the same user who has borrowed the activation ?Which is the version of RSView32 are you using ?May you also post a screenshot of your FTA tool where it is possible to see the borrowed activation? - fuzzy logic The computer that the borrowed license is on is a stand alone, not connected to the network after I borrowed the license. Same user.The version of RSView32 is 7.2. I think my main question is where is the license file? It must exist since the RSNetworks works ok. File .lic is on FactoryTalk Activation Server, you cannot find it on the client computer. Anyway, I think the problem here is related to the fact your RSView32 version doesn't support Concurrent Activation; see the table below extracted from Aid 52551... you have to upgrade your software version. :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Function files & printing reports I am trying to print a ladder report from a Micrologix program. When I display the preview it shows many pages of Function Files. What are these and how do i turn them off or can I remove the function files? Thanks! ### Assistant: Duplicated thread.... :smileysurprised: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=PLC_SLC&message.id=1087#M1087 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation for RSLogix 500 In the past I used master disk to install the key for RSLogix 500 Version 6.30. I plan to upgrade to Version 7.30. I cannot find the product key on master disk. How can I let the software to recognise the key on my laptop to generate the activation file? ### Assistant: I'm afraid, but your needs seems to be not so clear to me ....:smileysad: Do you need to just upgrade your current version of RSLogix on the same PC where the activation is ?Or do you want to move back the activation from your laptop to the Master Disk ? In the first case you have to do nothing, the software will work after upgraded.In the second case, you have to use the EVMove utility to move the activation from your laptop to the Master Disk...the utility is either on that floppy disk or in your PC, Rockwell Software - Utilities - Move Activation... Let me know if you need other infos.... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTV SE Global Object Parameter Definitions Hi, Is there a way to open a display from a globalobject with global object definitions, and pass the definitions from the global object to global objects on the display that opens. I tried with a parameter file ( ### Assistant: TOBSK, may you better clarify which is your need, may be with an example or a screenshot ? :smileywink:I'm afraid but I can't well understand it... :smileysurprised: Thanks for cooperation... - fuzzy logic This is the global object with placeholder #1. Every time I use this object I define the placeholder value in Global Object Parameter Values. When I rightclick or touch this object I want to open the popup display below and forward same placeholder value to the global objects on the display. Something like #1=#1. This is the popup I want to call. The objects on the display has placeholders (#1) in the tagnames. Sorry, but I'm not able to paste in pictures??, so I just attached them. The small one is the first mentiod global object. Attaching file PIC_0029.JPG (1KB) Ok TOBSK, I will try to solve your issue... You might assign Global Object Parameter definition also to the Button to change display in the first Global Object (the small one in your picture). The Action for this Button should be the one indicated in the attached screenshot; then you will assign Parameter Values to this first Global Object when you use it, so that when you'll press this button you go to the selected Display, passing, for example, the value of #1 parameter to it. The Display you call (the big one in your picture) will contain other Global Objects for which you've not defined Parameter Values, but they will use what is passed from previous display by /T command. Hope it is clear... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic HiThanks a lot for your answer - just what I needed. :-) ok now how do I get this to work in ME Here the answer to the last question: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=FTStudio&message.id=1705#M1705 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CAN YOU PASS THE CAPTION VALUE OF GOTO DISPLAY BUTTON TO THE DISPLAY BEING CALLED? ANYONE KNOW? I AM SURE I COULD DO IT WITH A MEMORY STRING TAG AND USE IT IN BOTH THE CAPTION AND THE PARAMETER LIST BUT WAS TRYING TO AVOID THAT. ### Assistant: Only way to pass something to a display is through Parameters. - fuzzy logic Yes I understand that but is there someway to use the GotoDisplayButton.Caption in that paramter list? No way to do that using ViewME. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to add security to a recipe How security can be added to a recipe in Factory Talk View SE. Before the operator downloads the recipe he must be asked for the security means there must be some login where the permissions is given to the concerned operator only.No one other than the concerned person can download the recipe. How this problem can be solved. Is VB code to be written for this problem ? ### Assistant: You may use the FactoryTalk View SE Signature Control Activex... to understand how, see the User's Guide, starting at page 16-436 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: writing data from Logix 5000 to SLC 500 I need to write data to a SLC 500 from a Logix 5000. From what I can work out I use the MSG but cannot seem to get anywhere. Can anyone give me a step by step example. All I need is to activate one bit in the SLC for an alarm. Thank you ### Assistant: What about the network type do you want to use ? :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Sorry they are on a TCP/IP network. I am not bothered wether the 5000 writes to the 500 or the 500 reads. Mark, I suggest to read technote 20043 and 43408...there are procedures and suggestions... You need to a have a valid TechConnect Authorization to access these notes... Otherwise, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, I'll send you back some infos... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: powerflex 700 error F 90 I have a powerflex 700 series B firmware 6.004. I am trying to connect an encoder to watch the position of the motor. I set P53 (motor control select) to sensorless vector and I also tried FVC vector. I had P80 (Feedback Select) set to encoder and P412 (motor feedback type) to quad check and then to quadrature. With any of these settings I get fault 90 after a few minutes of running. So, then I set the drive back to factory defaults and i still got fault 90. I had to power down and remove the encoder card in order to run the drive without faulting on F90. Any suggestions? The encoder is new - quadrature 600 ppr. (I did set P413 to 600) Also do you know if there are any advanced drives classes available from Rockwell? ### Assistant: Manual report this as Encoder Quad Err, Both encoder channels changed state within one clock cycle. Actions: 1. Check for externally induced noise. 2. Replace encoder. After these two checks, I guess you may have a faulty Encoder Card... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic This is a new encoder card that I installed in a drive that was already running without the encoder. As for noise - I have the drain connected at the encoder end only. This should eliminate noise issues, right? Another thing... Why would I be getting the encoder quad error when I have the drive feedback set to sensorless vector? The error only went away when I removed the encoder card. Hmmm... my opinion is there is something wrong either in the Encoder Card or the Main Board in the circuit's part inherent the Encoder. After a new check of all cabling and settings (also jumpers based on encoder voltage), and a new test with card mounted on the drive, I suggest to call in the RA Support for further and deeper instructions. About the Training Classes, contact your RA representative... see this site for infos... Apologize to be unable to help more on your issue... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I know this is a little old but I thought I would comment anyway... The Parameter 80 (feedback select) and 412 (motor feedback type) should both be examined. If 412 is set to detect the encoder then you will get F90 no matter what type of feedback select you are using. n"}
{"text": "### Human: stray voltage problem for IO module We are doing a Cement plant upgrade project in india with Rockwell PLC in which we are using DI modules catolog number 1756-IA32. the cement plant is a 15 year old plant and we have stray(induction) voltages in the wires around 60VAC. to this voltage the DI module picks up with out any actual input. we have tested at around 38 VAC this module picks up. since its a old plant we will not be able to do any change to arrest it at source. in this regard we are planning to design a RC network circuit to arrest this voltages. similar idea has worked for some other make PLC with same issue. in this regard can you suggest us what should be the R and C value suitable for your module input. thanks and regards Sunil FLSmidth Automation, India ### Assistant: Sunil, Technical specs for the 1756-IA32 inputs are in publication 1756-td002_-en-e.pdf, available from the Literature Library website. Check out page 13-14 of 158. This gives the input impedance, maximum off-state voltage and maximum off-state current, which should help you work out what you need. Way back before common industrial networks, we used to interface between incompatible systems by wiring DOs of one system to DIs of the other, and AOs from one to AIs on the other. Most discrete output cards had pretty high leakage current through the triac outputs (many still do). We had no need for lamp test because even the off lamps were on -- just dimmer! I've seen some pretty sensitive small solenoid valves that had to have a bypass resistor across the valve coil to swamp the leakage current. Your situation is conceptually not that different. Check out an oldie-but-goodie, publication 1771-2.1, page 4 of 6, for the circuit used to wire a 1771-OA output to a 1771-IA input. The resistor specified there would probably work, but I'm guessing you might be able to calculate (or find by trial and error) a higher resistance value at correspondingly less wattage. If all else fails, get a big pack of 1M-ohm 1/2 watt resistors and keep paralleling them until you find the value that works, then buy a bunch at half that resistance value, rated at a wattage calculated conservatively to last forever with 125 VAC across it continuously. You might want to grab an assortment of values: two or three each of 1M, 330k, 100k (1W), 33k (2W), 10k (5W), 3.3k (10W), etc. so you can home in on the right value without having to parallel 400 resistors to get to 2.5k! Sorry I don't have the answer. I'm just a Chem-E trying to do EE work! I'm also a ham radio operator, so I'm used to working out ways to make stuff work good enough by experimenting. Usually without blowing something up! Helps to have a good Junque (junk) box. Dale, W8ABZ I'm not sure what frequency you're getting on your wires, but maybe some ferrite chokes located near the DI would help? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 5000 firware Anyone know where to find Ultra5000 firmware. It does not seem to exist on the AB support site! ### Assistant: Hmmm... it seems to be available only through Technical Support guys... :smileysurprised: Contact them and see if they can help you... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1788 cnc card losing keeper I'm using a flexlogix 1794-L34 with a 1788-CNC daughtercard, everytime the power is cycled the controller loses the keeper. Anyone else run in to this problem? Updated the firmware to 1.8, still not working ?correctly. ### Assistant: Do you have Powerflex 7 series on your Controlnet network ? Several issues have been found when ControlNet Network only has a Keeper device and uses PowerFlex 7x drives with 20-Comm-C Modules...see Aid 52333 to see if it applies to your case... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Virtualizing softlogix5 We have a set of softlogix 5 running in NT4 PCs. Before we get them in softlogix5800 which will take about one year, we want to have them running in virtualized W2K workstation running in an XP host machine. It seems to work all right but for the PKTX card ( used for RIO) which does not install ( we try rom a file) in the XP host...: message unable to install ..... To know if it will work from the virtual machine and how is still a guess. Of course I have made a scan of the KB.... Does anyone has any idea or experience or advice to share about this subject. Faithfully ### Assistant: Hi Olivier, did you try to follow scrupulously the suggested steps in Aid 33616 ?May you please post either the exact error message you get or a screenshot with it ? - fuzzy logic Hi,Alas nost so scrupulosly since we copied the driver onto the HD ..... We will made a new attempt with a floppy and I let you know.Thankks a lot ,O. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix5000 lack of compare feature Is the there a tool in RSL5000 comparable to the compare tool in RSL500, ora method of doing a compare between two versions of a RSL5000 program? ### Assistant: RSLogix 5000 has a separately installed Compare Tool, a free utility that is included on the RSLogix 5000 CD or available via download. See Aid 56608 - Aid 52526 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Server with Host ID changing We have one server that changes what Host ID to use for activation. We chose to go with a dongle. At times we are unable to borrow activations becuase the server decides to use a Host ID of this computer. Any ideas how to keep Host ID of a dongle selected? ### Assistant: Hi Jason, just a couple of question: Which is the Operating System are you using on the PC ?Dongle is correctly installed and has the solid red led on ?Do you see the activation in the Rehost tab of your FactoryTalk Activation tool?And in the Current Activation ?Which is the software you want to activate / borrow ? I guess you're talking about software with concurrent activation, did you install the FTA server on that PC? - fuzzy logic Operating System?Server - Windows XP, I believe it is ProEngineers - Windows XP Pro SP 2 Dongle correctly installed and has the solid red led on?Dongle is installed correctly and works, activations can be seen on the server computer and from hosts within the network (provided that the server does not lose where we are trying to get the activations from)I never looked to see what leds are on!Do you see the activation in the Rehost tab of your FT activation tool?Can see activations in Current Activations and Rehost Activations tabs when the Use Host ID of a dongle radio button is selected under Get Activation tabWhen we lose Use Host ID of a dongle radio button we can not see activations in Current Activations tab, I did not look at the Rehost Activations tab, next time this occurs I'll checkSoftware to activate / borrow?We are toolkit holdersFTA server installed on computer?Server - FTA serverEngineer - FTA serverField Service - FTA server I don't know what event is causing the FTA server to loose status of where to use the activation from. Seems that the FTA server is unable to scan or find the dongle serial number and is defaulting back to the first radio button of the Get Activations tab. Thanks Jason for your complete answer. I will suggest to take a look to the following technote, apologize if some of the informations are already known, just there are all the things to check to let your activation work. Aid 37815 - Aid 58391 - Aid 50096 - Aid 57802 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Use of a Dongle? I purchased a USB Dongle and used it for activation today, this is my first time useing one of these and it workes perfectly. My quetion is this, if you have more than one version of software such as Logix 500 and Logix 5000 will the same dongle work for both or do you have to buy one for each program? ### Assistant: A Host ID is an internal code that uniquely identifies a hardware device. Factorytalk Activation uses Host ID to “lock” each software activation file to a specific hardware device. For sure you may *lock* multiple software activations to the same Host ID, like Dongle is. So, the answer is yes, the same Dongle will work for both software you have. :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Regarding PF400, Speed reference by Push Button Dear All,Can we use Push Button in PowerFlex 40 for Speed Increment/ Decrement. Please confirm the Software Parameters for that.As we are unable to use Push Button in PowerFlex4M Series Drive for Speed reference. Please update Kind Regard Shashi Bhushan Chauhan ### Assistant: You may use the MOP function un PowerFlex 40. Param. P038 should be set to 1 - Internal FreqParam. A069 will act as MOP frequency reference Then you may use two Digital Inputs on the terminal as MOP increment and MOP decrement; just configure the related A051-A054 parameters to MOP Up and MOP Down. Reference is the PF40 User Manual and Aid 24194 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Function Files in a Micrologix controller What are they and do I need them?How do I delete them? Could it be interfering with my printing? ### Assistant: Function Files are an integral part of Micrologix Controllers and through them you can access, configure and use some of the *advanced* features of these PLC, like High Speed Counters, Pulse Train Outputs, Interrupts etc.You may find them explained in the Reference Manual for your Micrologix Controller. If you want them removed from your report, just configure the Report Options to exclude these files from the printout...see the image below... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I found out I had a corrupted file; I had to Save AS an .SLC file, then open into RSLogix500. Once I did this the program finished the report and I was able to deselect the Function Files. Before this it would print thousands of blank Function File pages. Thanks! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Gaurd Logix Any body guide me on guard logix concept.Can we mounte on remote rack 1756 slot ### Assistant: Try to take a look to these links: Product infos Catalogue InformationReference ManualUser Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes you can mount the GLX in a 1756 Chassis. Take a look at:-Safety Accelerator Toolkit And also the web site for it :- SAT Website click the title marked > Safety Accelerator Toolkit for GuardLogix Systems Also, one note on the Guardlogix is that while it can use regular 1756 I/O, you can't use the I/O coming in to the regular I/O in the safety task. It's regarded as unreliable and you must map safety tags to the regular 1756 I/O. Also, the only part of the processor that is redundant or fail-safe is the safety task...not the rest of the plc program. You have 2 processors with GLX. The main Safety processor and a partner they have to go next to each other on the rack. Then you have to buy I/O that mounts seperate from the main rack. The safety I/O communicates via Ethernet or Devicenet, so you have to have an ethernet card on the main rack, and its good practice to have a managed switch in the system. The price of this stuff gets up there real fast. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlNet with Coaxial Cable(1786-RG6) I have to install CLX system with only one Remote I/O Chassis and the distance of two chassis is around 800m.Is it possible to using coaxial cable, 1786-RG6, without repeater ? ### Assistant: The manual say the maximum allowable total coax cable length of a ControlNet segment is 1000m for 2 nodes.RG6 is coax cableSo I think it is ok. The maximum allowable total length of a ControlNet segment is 1,000 metres (3,280 feet) with 2 nodes (taps) connected. Each additional node or tap decreases the maximum length of the segment by 16.3 metres (53 feet). The maximum number of nodes (taps) allowed on a segment is 48 with a maximum length of 250 metres (820 feet). So, the answer to your question is YES, you need to use just two taps, two terminators and 800 m of coaxial cable. Reference is Controlnet Coax Media Planning and Installation Guide. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controlnet Adapter Module1747-ACN-15... cant be read by SLC 5/03? Can u please help me with this? thanks. ### Assistant: If you mean directly, it can't :smileysurprised: You will need a Controlnet Scanner module 1747-SCNR installed in the SLC 5/03 chassis and configured to manage the remote chassis through the -ACN15 adapter, in a valid Controlnet Network. See the manuals in the above LINK for scanner module use, and the attached User Manual for the Adapter, as it seems to not be available right now for download... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 V17.1 colors Version 17 when display colors are changed the Timer, Preset, and Accum words in the instruction do not change to the same color as the rung color.Is there a patch for this? ### Assistant: Unfortunately it seems to be changed respect to v16, and there is no workaround for that... see this thread also... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: powerflex 400 heatsink overtemp fault Hi,We are getting a heatsink overtemp fault on our powerflex 400. The fans do NOT start turning when a start command is given. I replaced the fans and still no luck. I suspect there is some kind of power supply board that runs these fans. Does anybody know what part ### Assistant: I remember a Product Issue about these fans for PF400, try to see if your drive could be affected (a transistor inside the fan could become faulty for this issue, so also the replaced fan could be affected if it was manufactured in the period indicated in following technotes) Aid 57378 - Aid 58083 Aid 47655 contains spare parts list for PF400. Hope this helps. - fuzzy logic I just replaced the fans last week, surely they sent me the good fans. Wouldn't at least a couple of the fans turn on if it was just a fan problem?? The problem did occur after a storm and power loss. Agree.... this could be related, as you suspected, to a faulty Main Board... unfortunately this is not field replaceable, you will need to replace the entire drive for that...or send it to repair... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic OK, I guess I'll send it in and see what they figure out. Thanks for your quick response. .... This problem should be address by rockwell with hi urgency, Its not good to hear that they only advice and post it in Knowledge base, regarding this Fan issue... I commissioned 35 Drive here in singapore in one Big company.. sadly we encounter 9 faulty drive out of 35, so its about 25%, 5 of it is Fan issue.. And base on the that technote there are still onsite waiting to be down.. customer already have doubt on AB Drive durability... I also heard some bad powerflex news from some customers.I hope all would be ok soon,no matter where the products are made and who made.... n"}
{"text": "### Human: SE 5.0 CPR9 SR1 does not update my FT View SE 5.0 CPR9 I have XP SP2 with installed FactoryTalk V Studio for FactoryTalkV Enterprise 5_0 ,RSLinx Enterprise Software, RSLinx Professional Software & RSlinx classic After I installed FTSP 2.10.01 CPR9 SR1 Patch Installs 06 Apr 09 it updates my software now I haveRSlinx classic CPR9 SR1 and RSlinx enterprise CPR9 SR1 and FTSP 2.10 CPR 9 SR1 Then I tried to install SE 5.0 CPR9 Patch Installs 06 Apr 09 but I dont have correct update so I downloaded SE 5.0 CPR9 SR1 Patch Installs 06 Apr 09 and installed but my program remains only CPR9 I have been said to install this patch so my problem with screen flickering when I move windows will be solved.Any suggestions or am I doing something wrong? Thanks !! Attached is the scerenshot of Add/Remove programs. ### Assistant: Janac, there is no SE CPR9 SR1. I am thinking that the reason you saw a reference to a CPR9 SR1 patch is that the patch rollups were recently consolidated so that one rollup handles all patches. But no patches would ever change the version of FTView SE to CPR9 SR1. FYI, I just checked tech note 60350, which is the rollup tech note. It lists the following product revisions:- FactoryTalk View SE 5.00.00 (CPR9) - FactoryTalk View ME 5.00.00 (CPR9) - FactoryTalk Services Platform 2.10.01 (CPR9 SR1) - FactoryTalk Alarms and Events 2.10.00 (CRP9) - RSLinx Enterprise 5.17.00 (CPR9 SR1) Please see tech note 60350. There are now two seperate SE(CPR9) patch roll-ups. One for intstallation on FTSP CPR9 and one for FTSP CPR9 SR1. Before this month, there was only one SE(CPR9) patch file for both FTSP. The download link to the SE patch roll up for FTSP CPR9 SR1 does not work. The link is labeled Link 1. I have made sure I was logged in, and tried FireFox and IE. Is this SE patch roll up available, or is it necessary to uninstall FTSP CPR9 SR1 and install FTSP CPR9? Thanks! Richard I've reported the two LINKS from technote 56184 here below: LINK 1LINK 2 Anyway I'm able to download the Patch also from technote... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: L63S Processor not recognized in Factor Talk View ME I'm trying to setup communications to my 1756-L63S Processor (maj. Rev 17) and it is not an option in the factory talk view. The safety partner is there (L63SP), but no L63S. I'm running FTVME Ver.5 CPR 9 with the latest patch installed, and RSLINX Classic Lite Rev. 2.54.00.11 CPR 9 SR 1. Any ideas??? ### Assistant: That processor is available for selection in latest FactoryTalk View revision 5.1... (RSLinx Enterprise 5.20) May you consider the possibility to upgrade your current software version ? - fuzzy logic I thought I had the latest version. I just got it 3 days ago from rockwell... I'll update the software when I get back to work on Tuesday. Thanks for the heads up.... n"}
{"text": "### Human: ERROR WHEN IMPORTING .MED FILE Does anyone know what is causing this error? I click on 'new', give it a file name, click on import and browse to my .mer file. When I click to finish I get a red X error that says The parameter is incorrect FWIW, I am using Windows 2000 professional, FTView Studio ME (cpr9). The .med file is from a PV 600+. I am not sure if it is ver 4 or 5 or if it matters. Thanks, Aaron ### Assistant: If you want to import an existing .med project into another new project, then be aware of the following: Studio Requires the folders and files associated with the *old* project to import into a new project. Everything that is in the /ME/HMI Projects/<application name> folder is needed to do an import. If you want to open a runtime file .mer taken from a PVP, then you have first to be sure the firmware of PVP and thus the project taken from it must be v5...as v4 doesn't allow the conversion.The file is restored by uploading from the PanelView Plus and running Application Manager to restore to an editable application. Which of the two situation does apply to you ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, Both apply. The .mer is version 4.xx so restoring was out of the question as you stated. Your statements about needing the application files got me wondering so I tried something different. I had all the files on a cd and was browsing to the .med file on the cd and asking FTVS to import. After reading your reply, I copied all the files to a folder on c: and browsed to the .med file. FTVS imported with no reported errors. Thanks!!! Aaron n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix 1400 Hardfault List with Fault Code 08h Hello Everybody, Could anyone help me to find the cause of this fault? I do not understand the Memory Dump analysis. We just modified the IP Address, and then the MicroLogix 1400 triggered this fault 08h. Does it caused by noise or improper installation just like [Fuzzy Logic] said that? This error may be caused by noise (electrical disturbances) or improper installation, said by [Fuzzy Logic] at 03-30-2009 06:27 AM //////MicroLogix 1400 Hardfault List////// [1. Device Description] 1. Device Name; 1766-L32BXBA A/3.00 2. Ethernet Address(MAC); 00-00-BC-38-6D-71 3. OS Revision; Series A FRN 3.0 4. HTML File Revision; 1.7 5. CPU Mode; Faulted(51h) [2. 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Just because I see in your attached text the cpu mode indicated as Faulted 51h, that is another error...See Aid 20366 to troubleshoot error 51h. Otherwise, I suggest to send out the Hardfault List to Technical Support to have a response. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks [Fuzzy Logix] for you input! Yes, The latest fault, S:6=51h, is because of the mismatch of program configure with the hardware. We have resolve the issue by now. Does anyone would explain for the Dump Memory analysis? Last 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 The other ones description . Device Description1. Device Name 1766-L32BXB A/3.00 2. Ethernet Address(MAC) 00-00-BC-38-6E-E6 3. OS Revision Series A FRN 3.0 4. HTML File Revision 1.7 5. CPU Mode Faulted(8h) 2. 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{"text": "### Human: SLC 5/03 used with Proface QPK-CTDE-0000: HELP Hi, new guy here. I hope you guys can help me out here. Here's my setup: Using an SLC 5/03 w/16K memory Series CAdditional modules used: 1746-NI8, 1746-NR8 (x2), 1746-OX8 (x2). Connected to Ch. 1 is a Proface Model ### Assistant: I've tested the second method, writing new values to N file and mov them to S registers, and works fine... Are you sure the ladder file with the move instructions has been *called* using JSR instructions ? :smileysurprised:If the N file has the correct values, the MOV must work... - fuzzy logic Yes, I've made sure it's in a File that a JSR jumps to. There are other rungs that are running at the same time within that file, some of it is for displaying on the touch screen which it does, so I know the file is being called. Watching it online, I can see the Nx:xx register accept the new number but when it comes to the MOV to the S:xx nothing happens. I've tried using XIC before the MOV file, trigger the XIC and nothing. I tried having no conditions before the MOV and nothing. It's a mystery to me. I know it should work. It works with our SLC 5/05's. Maybe there's something different with the SLC5/03. Hmmm... if you have the possibility, a good test could be to create a new program in RS500 with just LAD 2 and only the move like in my example; download and remove all network connections to the controller. It must work ! If it does, then you may double check in your application: other part of the program that could write to the same Status wordsother devices via comm channel that get direct control of that words (SCADA, HMI etc.) Also try to set the clock from the Status File while online; if you see something strange or if it doesn't work as expected, try to see technote 22298.After that, try again to change the clock values from the ladder... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, I'll give it a try. n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix 1400 EDS I can't find an EDS file for the Micrologix 1400. Does anybody know where I can get one? ### Assistant: If you're searching for it, maybe you have an old RSLinx version... be aware you need to install at least v2.54 to use MX1400; it contains the needed EDS files. Anyway, you may download it from this LINK (see below how I've obtained it) :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communication problem with Compact 1769 L32E and Analog Inputs Hi All, We have a project that use a Compact Logix 1769 L32E PLC. Evetything seems ok. I can get all Analog Input values by configuring to engineering units and 4-20 ma settings. Unfortunately after we shutdown the power of plc I cannot see any AI values from modules. All values seem zero. Only way to get values again is (checking inhibit module option)pausing Analog Input modules and repausing(unchecking inhibit module option) Analog Input modules. But when we shutdown the power of Plc again same problem occurs. can someone help us about this problem. Did i miss any control options about Analog Input modules. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 23492... Be aware of the following: The recommended way to configure the card is to manually set the configuration bits within the module's configuration tags using RSLogix5000 s/w. Let me know... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF700 two Reference Speed What configuration should I do with PF700 if 2 reference speed is required? Speed 1 - Via PotentiometerSpeed 2 - Analog (4-20 mA) ### Assistant: Utilize the digital inputs to switch between Reference select 1 & 2 (par 361 - 366) and Reference A & B (par 90 & 93) Thanks Chi Drives, yeh.. i know about it, using the digital input to switch between two speed, however i'm not only sure about the wiring... not like PF400 its quite simple.. but for Pf700 its quite confusing... Take a look to the attached image... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Excellent! Thanks fuzzy logic.. I may try this terminal setting.... Kudos n"}
{"text": "### Human: Comparison between Panelview+ and Component series Hello,I need two touch screens for a project, both color, and both are fairly simple applications. I need about 6 screens of graphics, including 3-4 trendviews each. I have a choice between a 10 color component series panel (2711C-T10C) and a 6.5 panelview plus. There is a significant price difference, and I would prefer the cheaper and larger screen on the component series panel. But I cannot find any literature on the trending capacity. I found in the knowledgebase a document 36267, but I cannot open it. Can someone tell me definitively, what are the trending limitations on the component series panels? thank youeeprom ### Assistant: See Aid 50663 Take also a look to Help and Extended Support to find informations about trend configuration. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Please also keep in mind the limitations of communications. If the controller in your project is a compact logix, for example, the PVc can only talk over serial. It also does limit the type of data sent to the HMI. Please refer to this thread Re: Connect panelview component to controllogix / FactoryTalk View SE/ME , from 6/08. Nelson n"}
{"text": "### Human: Operation of CPS and UID/UIE with regard to OPC I am digging into some strange occurrances with GE's Cimplicity HMI reading/writing to ControlLogix. Once in a while, we get 'non-contiguous' data in an array that is being read via OPC on Ethernet. The array is being written in the controller using a COP instruction that is within a UID/UIE pair. The logic is all within a continuous task, with no other tasks.My understanding is that between the UID and UIE, no communications will be taking place, so an OPC read of the array should always get contiguous data, not half-copied data.Question: Is the CPS instruction the same as UID-COP-UIE, or are there differences, especially concerning OPC communication? ### Assistant: There is a very detailed comparison of CPS and UIE/UID in RA Knowledgebase document 50235. I learned a lot from that document. Is the source of the data you are copying an I/O module or Produced/Consumed Tag ? If so, you probably need to use the CPS instruction. The UIE/UID pair do not appear to lock out the backplane ASIC access to memory, which I think is how an I/O module updates the tag database. The short summary of that document is to copy I/O or P/C Tag data, use CPS. For data manipulated by logic, use the UIE/UID pair to reduce overhead loading on the controller. Thanks Ken, that is a very good doc. It raises a couple questions for me though. According to the doc, the CPS instruction basically disables the backplane ASIC from accessing memory, as well as disabling interrupts, while UID/UIE only disables the interrupts. Isn't communications from an ENBT handled by the backplane ASIC? If so, then UID/UIE wouldn't affect OPC comms via an ENBT module (which I know it does). Also, my understanding is that the comms timeslice is a function of the logic ASIC, but now I'm curious about the actual path of the OPC data. I suppose it must have something to do with CIP vs TCP as to which processor handles it, because it seems that the backplane ASIC would be handling any EthernetI/P I/O, but the comms timeslice affects other traffic (RSLogix5000, HMI, etc) through the same ENBT module, on the same wire, across the same backplane. In this particular case, we are not dealing with any Produced/Consumed or I/O data, but we are seeing the same kind of symptom (mixed old/new data) with a simple INT array being read by Cimplicity. Originally, the data being read was slightly scattered (an INT[90] array plus a couple standalone INT tags), all inside a UID/UIE pair. A change was made so that the array and the standalone INT tags were COPied into a single array (still inside the UID/UIE pair), which is now read with one 'call' from the OPC client. The frequency of the issue was decreased, but it still happens. I am told they tried using CPS instead of COP, but no change in frequency of occurrence was noticed. Forgive me for thinking out loud....My brain hurts, I'll think some more tomorrow. Moford, What is the OPC server? RSLinx Classic Gateway? Or something else? Does it do / is it set up to do optimized packets? If not, it may initiate separate reads for the individual elements instead of the whole thing in one packet. In that case, your logic could come in after part of the array has been read, do its UID / COP / UIE or CPS, then the OPC server comes back in and reads the next part of the array. Probably have to get a network analyzer to be sure. How big is the data structure? Does it all fit in one CIP response packet? (If memory serves, a CIP packet is 512 bytes, so with overhead, it'll support about 480 bytes of payload.) You might have to apply some more intelligent sequencing with busy/done bits or with a read-ID at the beginning and end of the data, with the client feeding back which ID has been successfully read before your controller sets up the data for the next read (incrementing the read-ID). If the client read is somehow interrupting the controller copy/write, it'll work like this: start ID=1dataend ID=1 client reads, sees identical IDs = 1, client writes back ID=1 as ackstart ID=2new dataend ID=2 (written last) client reads, sees identical IDs = 2, client writes back ID=2 as ackstart ID=3some new data client read interrupts, client sees start ID=3 at front, end ID=2 at back different, so don't ack rest of new dataend ID=3 client reads, sees identical IDs = 3, client writes back ID=3etc. If the client is reading words at a time or partial blocks and the controller copy/write interrupts, it'll look like this: start ID=1dataend ID=1 client reads front half client reads back half, sees identical IDs = 1, client writes back ID=1 client reads front halfstart ID=2 new data > uninterrupted controller copy (UID/COP/UIE or CPS)end ID=2 / client reads back half, has start ID=1 from read of front, sees end ID=2 in back client reads front half, now sees start ID=2 client reads back half, sees identical IDs = 2, client writes back ID=2etc. I hope those sequence pictures made sense..... Best of Luck!Dale, W8ABZ W8ABZ,Thanks for the reply. We have a Wireshark trace of the anomaly now, and once I get all the pertinent data together, will be starting a case with Tech Support. I'll post again here with details for all of you following along.... Your solution is a valid 'fix', and I believe it would work. However, we want to understand how this is happening in the first place, as all the documentation I am reading says it can't happen. I also would like to be able to nail down where it is happening - in the controller, in the ENBT, the OPC server, or the client. Right now the customer feels it's in the controller, but I feel it has something to do with the OPC client. We got a reply from Tech Support. Apparently the behavior observed is the way it is supposed to be. In this copied paragraph, Controller A is the OPC client, B is the CLX: ************* copy from email ************ I have analyzed your issue and here are the results as discussed. Controller A does a message to Controller B. Controller B has UID/UIE instructions around a copy instruction to get a snapshot of data. What sometimes ends up in Controller A does not look like a snapshot of this data. After looking at the information, this is correct, what ends up in B may not be a snapshot of the data. Even though the copy operations are not interrupted.. the read request itself can be interrupted at anytime. So at times, instead of a complete snapshot, you have have slightly older data at the beginning of the array then at the end. This simply the way the system is designed and is allowed to happen. ********** end of clip ********* He followed up with a handshaking suggestion as was suggested by W8ABZ, or an Unsoliceted MSG write to the OPC client, per TN 22394.I didn't know you could do that.The customer is going to implement the MSG write on his test bed. If all goes well, case closed.Thanks to all for your input! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connection parameters for generic 1756-Module In RSLogix 5000, if generic 1756-Module is used, there are some connection parameters such as aassembly instance/size for input, output and configuration to be enetered. What are the meaning of these pameraters and how to determin the values of them? ### Assistant: Hi cfhung, Connection Parameters are specific for some modules, and should be supplied by the Vendor of those modules. They are needed to instruct the software to create the right Input,Output and Configuration image and related tags to let you exchange datas with that particular module. They are needed mainly to use third-party communication module, and sometimes to be able to use new A-B modules that don't have yet an I/O profile in that version of the software. - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply, but is there more detail example information about these parameters for better understanding? cfhung, Fuzzy is right when he says to look at the manual for a the specific module or device. Here's a DeviceNet example -- I hope it will be clear enough so you can see that EtherNet/IP, the Logix backplane, and other networks operate in a similar fashion. For this example, first, grab the E3/E3+ User Manual (publication193-um002_-en-p.pdf) from the ab.com online literature library. Then go to page B-6 of that manual. Appendix B contains the DeviceNet Information tables. All DeviceNet devices should have them or the equivalent information (if they expect to be purchased and used!). When the DeviceNet scanner scans a device, it connects to an Input instance and/or an Output instance of class Assembly Object (class 0x04). By picking the instance numbers, you can choose what data you send to or get from the device. On the E3+, for example, if you get Input data from Assembly Object instance 107 (page B-8, top table), you see the states of the four inputs, the two outputs, and a Warning and Fault status. If you output data to Assembly Object instance 105 (page B-7, second table), you can set the two outputs, reset a trip or remotely trip the device. Note the size of Assembly 107 and Assembly 105 for this device is one byte each. (Other Assembly instances have larger sizes, as shown in the other tables.) EtherNet/IP devices (being CIP-based) should have similar information available. 1756 backplane devices are on a proprietary network, so similar information may not be publicly available in the same format, but the manuals or the add-on device profile should give you enough info to set it up and make it work (instance numbers, sizes, and data structure formats for at least one input instance and/or one output instance). The Configuration connection is just another connection like the output assembly connection, used to send module configuration data instead of field output data. Lots of information on Assembly instances, parameters, data sizes, etc., is in the EDS file for each device. It may take you a little work to figure out how to read these, though. They're intended to be read by software, not by humans. But they are plain text. The filename for the EDS file is created from the Identity object attributes for the device: Vendor ID (RA = 0001), Product Type, Product Code, and Major and Minor Revision. Right-click on the device in RSLinx and select Device Properties to get the numbers. You'll probably have to do some decimal <--> hex conversions, but you'll figure out how to open the right EDS file. Pretty nifty. By having an assortment of Assembly instances (the way the E3 / E3+ does), you can vary what I/O information are available for a given device based on common applications. Obviously many devices just have one input layout and one output layout. But devices with lots of optional features may have a basic small layout for most applications that keeps traffic low, and a full layout for applications that use the extra features. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: MOVING LICENCE RSLOGIX500 Hi, I have SOFTWARE MICROLOGIX500 with LICENCE that already installed in my PC ( not notebook ). Coudl be possible to move the LICENCE key of this software MICROLOGIX500 from my PC to my notebook ? because this PC not use anymore and I want to use notebook for troubleshooting. If possible to move the LICENCE key, please inform me HOW TO DO IT ? Regards, INDRA ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 38224, it contains links to other technotes with the instructions releted to the activation type you're using on your PC. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Mr Logic, I have tired to use EVMOVE and fil in DRIVE C to A but not succeed because always error appeared. I already opened the rotection of DISKKETTE but the same result. I enclosed the error message & the picture of 3 (three ) DISKETTE & 4 (four ) CD that I have for RSLOGIX500 and I use for installed in my PC before. Please help me how to eliminate this error ? indra Usually this happen when an activation is already in use by a program, so the activation file cannot be edited. Try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 37215Aid 28341 Let me know... - fuzzy logic There are a lot of RA services that are automatically loaded - regardless of if you run the software or not and regardless to how you select RSLinx to run as a service. Some of these prevent the activation from being moved. You can see these from the Task Manager (and terminate them for the purpose of moving your activation). I'm going to be honest and state that I just take a guess at which ones are 'Rockwell' and end them - hence I'm not going to state which ones you should terminate - I'm sure Mr Fuzzy can point you in the right direction of which services to terminate exactly. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 5000 Ladder Editor Color Hello, I have recently installed V17 and the foreground color for all the blocks use a dark blue color.For example: A TON instruction will have the following text in a dark blue color: TimerPresetAccum My problem is that I work with a black background and there is no way for me to change this color setting. Is there a way to change this setting?If not can you release a patch to give the possibility to do so? Thank you. ### Assistant: Unfortunately it seems not possible... :smileysad: Only workaround I can suggest is to use 3D Instruction Display... see the screenshot. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for the tip but I don't like the 3D Instruction Display. I'll just wait and hope they fix it... Hopefully. You can change the color scheme by going to Options >Ladder Editor>Font/color and then select Ladder Window. Adjust the foreground color to change the color of your rungs, which also will change the color of you instructions. fordtt, altough your solution works fine for RS5000 v16, it doesn't work with v17 ! :smileywink: See the attachment.... - fuzzy logic My bad....I misread the post.... Oh, no problem... :smileyvery-happy: It is a strange problem...maybe they've changed something in the color scheme in v17, and now those texts color are not changeable... :smileymad: - fuzzy logic I'm just wondering if they had a different development team work on v17. I mean, RSView ME numeric input objects had limits on them but the numeric input object in RSView SE didn't until CPR9. The explanation from RA was that a different development team worked on the project. Also, it would be nice if Rockwell had a bug list forum where we could list issues or anomolies for certain products. I guess this is minor compared to other problems we've had.... If you guys want to create an anomolies post as an ongoing discussion, I'd be happy to sticky it at the top AND send a nicely worded email to the product group in question to keep an eye on it. JHutch I think the whole forum could fall under the anomolies category at some point or another but how about a wish list forum. Would be a *cheap* way for AB to do product forecasting as to what people actually want. I agree, though I don't think a separate board is a way to go. Just create new threads within the existing areas when you have a suggestion/feature request. At the very least, I'll make sure the product managers see all such threads (some lurk around here on the sly just in case those types of posts are made). JHutch Fair enough. Thanks for being a willing participant.... Perhaps they broke it when they fixed something else in the Tools | Options dialogs. It seems like forever that the print settings never worked and you had to change display settings to get the print to change. Perhaps that was fixed in 17. Haven't tried it because I learned to live with the defaults. :-( I did a project where we designed the Equipment Phases in SFC in 15, and when we printed them, we wanted to print the comments ( //this is a comment ) in black, and everything else in gray. Became our design document. But I had to change the editor settings to make it happen, making the ST in SFCs practically uneditable. So I reverted to defaults. I'll have to open up 17 and see if the print settings work now. Dale, W8ABZ fordtt, now that's an idea. I can think of a few items off the top of my head to post on that one. n"}
{"text": "### Human: compactlogix L32e problem Hi; I am using belown hardware configuration and RSlogix 5000 15.01 in my project. 1769-PA4 POWER SUPPLY1769-L32E COMPACTLOGIX ETHERNET PROCESSOR,1769-IQ16 16 24 VDC INPUT MODULE 1769-OB16 16 24 VDC SOURCE OUTPUT MODULE1769-IF8 8 ANALOG INPUT MODULE1769-ECR RIGHT END CAP I programmed my plc and it is working good. But when i power off CPU and reenergized again i could not see analog input signals.I am trying connect to CPU and redownload my program, dowloading started than intrerrupted and CPU OK LED is blinking red. When i saw thi problem i am doing this secuence;I power off PLCremove CPU batteryreinstlall batteryPower on PLC againthan in rslogix5000 - module properties - inhibit module chek box unsign and sign againthan i can download my program againat the end plc will ok. every power off i am living this problem what can i do to solve this problem Plesae send me your comment, your expriencesRegards ### Assistant: Erol,When this occurs again, how about a screen shot of your processor status (errors) and a screen shot of your IF8 module properties general, connection and configuration. Possibility exists that you may have a firmware issue. n"}
{"text": "### Human: micrologix 1100 to micrologix 1100 through Channel 0 Can I use a 1761-cbl-am00 cable? I need to pull info from a slave 1100 to a master plc, I want to make sure if I use this cable I'm not going to damage the plc or the comm port! ### Assistant: Here we miss Ken Roach response, as he is a networks expert and for sure can help on that ! :smileywink: So, some notes from me about your request: 1. directly communicating CH0 ports of Micrologix controllers has never been a supported features2. for sure you CANNOT connect Mx1100 ch0 to another Mx controller (1000-1200-1500) using -AM00 cable, as communication pins used for RS-485 communications are alternately used for 24V power on the other MicroLogix controllers, and this will cause damage to the RS-232/485 communication port of Mx11003. so, the question to Ken Roach (thanks :smileytongue: ) any issue to connect together the RS-485 pins of two Mx1100 controllers, using -AM00 cable ?4. side question... it would be possible to connect two Mx1100 controllers together via DH-485 using for both a 1763-NC01 cable (ch0 first mx1100 -nc01cable - nc01cable - ch0 second mx1100) ? I will start a new thread for the last question to those who are interested... Apologize to not have an answer for you bewilder, just trying to contribute... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic For anyone interested in this topic, yes you can connect 2 Micrologix 1100 together with 1761-cbl-am00 with no problems. i tested yester day with no problems. allen bradley tech support says it was ok. Thanks bewilder to report your feedback here in the Forum ! I was working *around* this possibility through Ken Roach help, but your research and tests have been quicker ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic RA Knowledgbase Answer ID # 18942 has pinouts for a number of cables including the 1761-CBL-AM00, which has a right-angle mini-DIN8 connector on either end, which is suitable for connection to any MicroLogix family controller Channel 0 serial port. That information should be in several other installation manuals too. The 1761-CBL-AM00 is a null-modem cable that connects Receive to Transmit as well as connecting Clear-to-Send to Ready-to-Send. 24V 1 <---> 1 24V GND 2 <---> 2 GND RTS 3 <---> 6 CTS RXD 4 <---> 7 TXD DCD 5 <---> 5 DCD CTS 6 <---> 3 RTS TXD 7 <---> 4 RXD 0VDC 8 <---> 8 0VDC Note that GND on Pin 2 above means RS-232 signal common, in contrast to the +24VDC power common on Pin 8. On the MicroLogix 1100 and 1400 controllers, A-B removed the +24VDC power supply circuit on pins 1 and 8 and replaced it with the Signal A and Signal B pins for the embedded RS-485 port. There's no problem connecting both the RS-232 and RS-485 signal wires on the MicroLogix 1100 controllers. I've never put a scope on them to figure out if they are both active at the same time. Where you would probably have a problem is if you connected one of the MicroLogix that has an embedded RS485 port on the Channel 0 plug (MicroLogix 1100 and 1400) to a MicroLogix that has +24VDC on pins 1 and 8 (all other MicroLogix controllers). RS-485 transcievers usually operate in a range of -7 to +12 VDC, so the +24V might damage the RS485 chip inside the MicroLogix 1100/1400. The +24VDC pin was implemented on the older MicroLogix to power the handheld programmer (remember those !) and accessory devices like the 1761-NET-AIC, -DNI, and -ENI. It is also responsible for more than a few PC serial port smoke-releases when people have built their own serial cables without consulting the user manual. Thanks Ken for your complete answer ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Connect Micrologix 1100 together using -NC01 cables Is it possible to connect two Mx1100 controllers together via DH-485 protocol using for both a 1763-NC01 cable (ch0 first mx1100 -nc01cable - nc01cable - ch0 second mx1100) ? In case it is possible, which could be the maximum distance between them (max RS-485 cable length) ? Thanks in advance,- fuzzy logic ### Assistant: That's one of the intended used of the 1763-NC01 cable; to allow access to the A, B, and COM wires of the isolated RS-485 port built into Channel 0 of the MicroLogix 1100. The RS-485 trunk length is the same as if you were using 1761-NET-AIC or any other converter; 4000 feet. Thanks Ken for your kind reply. :smileywink: So, what about the other thread from which this answer comes ? It seems to me the direct connection between serial ports using -AM00 cable, although unsupported and thus not recommended, should work in that case (between Mx1100 to Mx1100); the connection between RS-485 pins shouldn't create problems, as it is the same connection you have joining two -NC01 cables like you've confirmed it is allowed. Right ?! :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I am double-posting this to cover both questions about the -AM00 cable. RA Knowledgbase Answer ID # 18942 has pinouts for a number of cables including the 1761-CBL-AM00, which has a right-angle mini-DIN8 connector on either end, which is suitable for connection to any MicroLogix family controller Channel 0 serial port. That information should be in several other installation manuals too. The 1761-CBL-AM00 is a null-modem cable that connects Receive to Transmit as well as connecting Clear-to-Send to Ready-to-Send. 24V 1 <---> 1 24V GND 2 <---> 2 GND RTS 3 <---> 6 CTS RXD 4 <---> 7 TXD DCD 5 <---> 5 DCD CTS 6 <---> 3 RTS TXD 7 <---> 4 RXD 0VDC 8 <---> 8 0VDC Note that GND on Pin 2 above means RS-232 signal common, in contrast to the +24VDC power common on Pin 8. On the MicroLogix 1100 and 1400 controllers, A-B removed the +24VDC power supply circuit on pins 1 and 8 and replaced it with the Signal A and Signal B pins for the embedded RS-485 port. There's no problem connecting both the RS-232 and RS-485 signal wires on the MicroLogix 1100 controllers. I've never put a scope on them to figure out if they are both active at the same time. Where you would probably have a problem is if you connected one of the MicroLogix that has an embedded RS485 port on the Channel 0 plug (MicroLogix 1100 and 1400) to a MicroLogix that has +24VDC on pins 1 and 8 (all other MicroLogix controllers). RS-485 transcievers usually operate in a range of -7 to +12 VDC, so the +24V might damage the RS485 chip inside the MicroLogix 1100/1400. The +24VDC pin was implemented on the older MicroLogix to power the handheld programmer (remember those !) and accessory devices like the 1761-NET-AIC, -DNI, and -ENI. It is also responsible for more than a few PC serial port smoke-releases when people have built their own serial cables without consulting the user manual. Thanks ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 4 Fault Code 2 HELP! Hey, I've had a powerflex 4 running for about 4 years now and tonight it stopped working and started flashing F002? Does anyone know how to fix this error? Cheers, Jon_ ### Assistant: This fault happens if you have configured a Digital Input to 3 - AuxFault, and this input is removed. Try to check the parameters to see if something has changed.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1784-KTCX15 Is ControlNet Communication Interface Card 1784-KTCX15 Installation Instructions, publication number 1784-5.33 available in the website? ### Assistant: Not in the Literature website, you may find it attached to Aid 50353 :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756 CNB/a Requires NVS Update I have a Logix5000 1756-CNB/A Module that displays a message Requires NVS Update. Looking at the Device Properties through RSLinx, it shows the Vendor, Product Type, Product Code and Revision as zero. I have tried to use Control Flash to restore the settings but will not proceed as there is no module information to compare against. My Question is, has anyone else experienced this problem as I am unable to find any information about it, and if you have is my module repairable? Any assistance would be gratefully received. Thanks James Taylor. ### Assistant: I think the only possibility here is to send it to repair... just call in the Technical Support before, maybe they can confirm you if it is reparable... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-OW8 outputs not activating Hello everyone, The short version: Version 1756-L63 (firmware 16.7) in a 4 slot rack with a 1756-ENBT/A (firmware 4.1), connected via ethernet to an N-Tron 8 port hub. Two 1794-AENT/B's (firmware 4.1) are also connected to this hub, with a mix of IA16 input cards and OW8 output cards for each AENT. We are seeing inputs change state in the controller tags from the IA16 cards, however when we force the OW8 outputs on, the LED on the front of the OW8 card(s) does not turn on, and the output does not activate. No errors, warnings or other signs of discontent within the I/O tree in Logix. I have tried swaping cards, checking for bent pins and cycling power to both the IO racks and PLC. I have tried forcing outputs on several OW8 cards in other racks with similar results. Our PLC had previoulsy been connected to the AENT's through an ethernet switch that may be managed (not sure). We have since moved the PLC rack and connected it locally to the N-Tron hub mentioned above. I have spoken with a very nice person at tech support who promised to get back to me tomorrow as we're both stumped. In the meantime, any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Steve ### Assistant: I ran across this not too long ago. Inputs could be read, Ethernet showed okay in the project tree but couldn't write to my AENT output modules. Turns out I blew it when I made my ethernet cable. One of the wire pairs had a bad connection in the RJ45 connector. Reterminated the connector and everything has been rock solid since. Hope this helps. Good luck. Did this work before you changed switches ? Frankly it sounds like the way connections work when the controller is in Program mode ! Are you literally using the Force feature of RSLogix 5000, with the Force Mask and Enabling Forces steps, or are you just placing a 1 into the tag value ? Can you post the ControlLogix program, even just the I/O configuration ? What are the LEDs on the 1794-AENT doing ? If the FLEX adapters were not getting cyclic output data from the ControlLogix, then they would declare the I/O connection broken and you wouldn't get input data updates either, and of course you'd see that symptom in the I/O tree in RSLogix 5000 and the I/O LED on the controller. The 1794-OW8 relays require an external +24VDC supply, but the 1794-OW8 does not have an active LED like the analog modules do to indicate they have power. Have you verified the wiring (Installation Instructions 1794-IN019) and voltage ? Thanks for the suggestions folks. Turns out the 24VDC wiring to the TBNF was incorrect. I had checked it to verify 24VDC power was present, but in my rush to get things working, I didn't verify polarity. While the install instructions are perfectly clear, I think a green OK LED to indicate 24VDC power is present would be a nice addition to this particular card. n"}
{"text": "### Human: micrologix 1500 In my projects i am using micrologix 1500 and in this i am using one 1769-if16c analog module. But in my rslogix 500 which has version 7.30 cpr 9. In this IO cofiguration it does not have card available . so what should i do for this? ### Assistant: See Appendix B of the User Manual It can be configured as Generic Module.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-OB16D/A module giving Internal Error 16#0065 Hi All,1756-OB16D/A module giving Internal Error 16 ### Assistant: Hi Cherry, probably you have a Module with firmware revision 2.x and you've configured it as Major Revision 3... so you cannot use Compatible Keying: Compatible Module - the following criteria must be met, or else the inserted module will reject the connection:the Module Types, Catalog Number, and Major Revision must matchthe Minor Revision of the physical module can be equal to or greater than the one specified in the software, except in cases where the module is able to emulate older revisions. Disable Keying will give you the possibility to use your module, anyway you may go offline, delete the module and re-insert it using the correct Major Revision, and then it will work fine without errors also with Compatible Keying... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: cannot open gfx files in rsview32 dear All, I have faced an issue in rsview32.I have downloaded some of the faceplates from rockwell websites for rsview32.Now whenever i try to use these faceplates (gfx files)It gives the message cannot open the gfx filewhat could be the problem ### Assistant: Which is the RSView32 version do you have ?Maybe the .gfx file has been realized with a newer version of the software and cannot be open with *old* releases... May you provide the link and the name of the files are you trying ? Are you sure they are for RSView32 and not View SE ? - fuzzy logic Hi FL, I have downloaded some of the faceplates from this link. http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com. iam working with rsview32 version 7.40.00 Regarding the downloaded file iam not sure whether it is for rsviewse or rsview32 but the file was with .gfx extension and description was rsview32 graphics file. I have another issue which crept yesterday I was using some activex controls like conbobox and textbox in my project.When i tried to copy the file from my laptop to my pc it gave the messageUnable to load the activex content newer version of activex requiredIs there any version difference between my PC and my laptopIf that is the case then how to solve it. Please indicate a file name or description of one of those Faceplates you want to use, so I may download and test... About your last issue: RSView32 allow users to insert ActiveX controls into their graphics. ActiveX controls are programs that are hosted within other programs. RSView32 tracks the version of the ActiveX control. If an application is deployed to another computer, and if that computer has an earlier version of that control installed, the graphic will either open with the ActiveX control hached out or not open at all, and error appear. In general, the way to correct Newer version of ActiveX control required is:Identify what ActiveX control is required by examining the error message.Once you know the name, you can identify the file that contains that ActiveX control by following the procedure from answer ID 31206Locate this file on the original development computer, or any computer that can open this screen without getting this error.Copy this file to the computer that is having the problem. Copy it to the same directory path where it original existed on the development computer.Register the control by using the Windows RegSvr32 command. Example:Open a Command prompt and enter: regsvr32 C:WindowsSystem32Fm20.dllAbout the above suggested technote, a TechConnect Authorization is required to access... if you've not a TechConnect Contract, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, and I will send you back some infos. - fuzzy logic Hi FL, http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com/intradoc-cgi/nph-idc_cgi.exe?IdcService=GET_SEARCH_RESULTS&QueryText=%28dSecurityGroup+%3CMATCHES%3E+%27Sample_Code%27%29+%3CAND%3E+%28%28xSC_Products+%3CSUBSTRING%3E+%27Software%27+%3CAND%3E+xSC_ProductsLevel2+%3CSUBSTRING%3E+%27RSView%27%29%29&urlTemplate=%2Fidc%2Fgroups%2Fpublic%2Fdocuments%2Fwebassets%2Fsc_search_results.hcst&ftx=&prepopVal=&SortSpec=&myProduct=&myProductLvl2=&myIndustries=&myTechnologies=&SC_Products=Software&SC_ProductsLvl2=RSView&SC_Industries=&SC_Technologies=&SC_dDocName=&SC_Title=&SC_Description=&SC_Catalog_Numbers=&SC_Products_display=Software&SC_ProductsLvl2_display=RSView&SC_Industries_display=&SC_Technologies_display=&queryTextPairs=&passedDocType=&ResultCount=25&SortField=xSC_Title_EN&SortOrder=Desc if you are not able to reach the link download from the link which i have send in the private message This is the link which contains sample code for rsview32. Path::Samplecode-rsview- Process AOI and Faceplate: Analog Input -After unzip rsview folder contains some faceplates liketmpanaloginput.gfxtmpanaloginput_config.gfxtmpanaloginput_status.gfxtmpanaloginput_trend.gfx Thanks Hi, the files you're trying to import are for RSView SE (FactoryTalk View SE) and will not work for RSView32. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Importing/Opening older apps in FT View SE 5.00 I am having trouble manipulating older applications after updating to 5.00. Specifically, the app seems to open or import okay, but opening any of the displays causes Studio to crash. I don't think the app is corrupted, as any app does the same thing. Any advice? Thanks, Richard ### Assistant: When you say opening any of the displays causes Studio to crash what does happen exactly ?Do you see errors ?Does the program disappear ? - fuzzy logic I get the The program needs to close, do you want to send Microsoft a message window. This happens immediately upon opening any of the displays. Try the following, unless already done: Test 1. Install latest patch rollup Test 2. Try to repair installation of the following, in order: 1. FactoryTalk Services Platform 2. FactoryTalk View Machine Edition 3. RSLinx Enterprise Let me know the results.... - fuzzy logic Fuzzy- I don't want to head off in the wrong direction. I am using FT View CPR9 SR1 with FTSP 2.10.01, which I believe are the latest patches. In order to repair the installation, should I: a) unload the patch(es), b) go back to the install DVD, and c) re-load the patches? Should I uninstall using Windows uninstaller? Is there a known good patch or version I should be using? Many thanks! Richard Richard, if you have FTSP and RSLinx Enterprise CPR9 SR1 on your PC, the latest patches are in Aid 60350...just verify if you have the last available. After that, I would try to remove SR1 software first (from Windows Control Panel), then repair, then reapply patches. Sad thing here is that the above have not always solved the problem... :smileysad: Just a note... what about a new project ? Do its displays open ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarms and Events Remote Acknowledge. Hello We've recently started to look at the new Alarms and Events system included in CPR9 as we're considering migrating existing CPR7 / CPR9 system with hmi-tag alarms, or might consider it for upcomming projects, and have a question regarding the Tag-based Alarms. In the alarm definition there is a tag that you can set to display acknowledge status, but it seems that that tag isn't monitored for changes. What we're looking for is a tag that tells the Alarm server that the alarm has been acknowledged (like the remote ack field in the FTView ME alarm system), so we can put the full alarm logic in the PLCs without using the new alarm functions. Is there any such functions that we may have overlooked, or does anyone have any ideas on how to replicate the functionality in other ways? Best regards Andreas ### Assistant: Hi Andreas, you may accomplish this exposing the Alarms&Events Summary to VBA and using some code. To be able to *catch* the remote acknowledge request, you may use the code as explained in Aid 22007; add a Numeric Display object in a page that is always running (you may alse set this object as invisible), so that the code will check the value of the associated tag and when changes to a value you want, executes the command. A list of the ACK *commands* is inside Aid 48785 An example of command could be: ExecuteCommand invoke MyAlmDisplay.AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() ...where MyAlmDisplay is the Display where the Summary is. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hmm, so to enable separate alarm triggering for each alarm I would need to create a script for each ack tag. When approaching a few hundred different ack tags I'm afraid it would be abit hard to still get a good grasp of the system (that's something I liked about the RSView hmi-alarms, by structuring my tag folders I would have a very good control over what alarms existed, and when adding new ones, or deleteing old, everything was in one place so it's easy to keep track of).It's a great idea for applications with a common ack bit for many alarms though, atleast aslong as one can expect that there's a client up and running the display (which we can't really in a distributed enviroment, but on standalone systems I guess one could expect it).I guess we'll keep using the old HMI-tag alarms for atleast another version of the software.Thanks for your answer. BTW, if you're in vba to start with, why not call the MyAlmDisplay.AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() in vba instead of going out to the View enviroment and calling methods from there, is there a performance gain from using Invoke() even though we started in the vba enviroment? Best RegardsAndreas Hmmm... my low ability in using VBA is shown... :smileytongue: I was in trouble issuing that VBA command as the Numeric Display object is on a different display than the one where the AlarmEventSummary1 is... So I've used that workaround... :smileysurprised: but I'm ready to learn something if you want... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic For manipulating displays through vba use the Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(Index) syntax to get the object.Lets say you have an open display called a, with a text object called text1 exposed to vba. To add test to the end of the caption from another display you'd use the following: Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(a).Text1.Caption = Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(a).Text1.Caption &  test Keep in mind that the display a must be opened for this to work. So in short you change the usual me. part of the code in vba for Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(DisplayName).So the example above would be something like Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(MyAlmDisplay).AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() Allthough if you allready have a hidden always-up display as in this case, I don't think it would hurt to put an Alarm Summary on it too, so you have everything for the remote acknowledge on the same display (much easier to troubleshoot when one doesn't have to jump around between different displays to follow the logic :) ). Remember to expose everything that needs to be used by vba, usually when I've got a script that doesn't work I've forgotten to exposed one of the objects that is used to run it. Best RegardsAndreas Nice ! It works, just I was needed to remove the brackets at the end,otherwise I got a Compiler Error; here the result. Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(MyAlmDisplay).AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected This is the why I like so much this Forum ! Thanks for your VBA lesson :smileyhappy: , I owe you one ! - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ANALOG INPUT SCALING FOR SLC 5/02 NI4 IN RS LOGIC SOFTWARE HI, Can anybody help me Pl.....About how to scale the analog input in SLC 5/02 plc analog module (ni4) ### Assistant: Hi, you may use the SCL instruction... it is explained with examples in Analog I/O User Manual , chapter 6 Module's range is on page 2-7 of the same manual. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: HELP!!! Hi, i need to know if RSVIEW32 runs over Windows vista business sp2, thanks ### Assistant: Hmmm.... due to the fact there are no traces about this OS in Rockwell Software Compatibility Matrix, I guess it is not yet tested... this doesn't mean it will not work at all, but it is neither supported nor granted... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView Plus Application with Japanese Text I am trying to add Japanese language support to a PanelView 600 Plus. After talking to Tech Support today, they referred me to several knowledgebase articles. However, they all are for Version 3 or 4, and don’t seem applicable to the multiple language support found in Version 5. I am using FactoryTalk ME 5.00.00 and a 2711P-T6C20D. I have exported the file to xls, added translation to column h, and reimported. The language does switch, but doesn’t properly display the Japanese characters. I only get characters similar to rectangles. I downloaded msgothic.ttc as suggested in Knowledgebase article 27118 even though it doesn't appear to have anything to do with Japanese characters. My original application is in English using the Arial font and I would like to add Japanese language support. I think that it is a font issue since I get different characters (just not the right ones) when I switch languages on the PanelView application. I've previously worked on a Portuguese translation, but not one that requires a different character set. Thanks. ### Assistant: Hi, following are the needed steps to realize what you need; just double check to follow them correctly... :smileywink: 1. Develop your application in English using Arial font2. Add Japanese Language to the application3. Export Strings for all languages to an Excel spreadsheet4. Install the font msgothic.ttc (or the one you prefer) in the PC where you're using View Studio (just copy it in Windows - Fonts folder, the files are in the PanelView Plus CE Accessories CD shipped with the PanelView Plus CE)... Aid 27118 5. Add translations using Excel to the Japanese column, using the Font you've just installed (i.e. MS Gothic)6. Import translated file to the View ME application (if you will open the project using Japanese as starting language, you will notice all translated texts will appear as squares, this because you've not changed the used font, i.e. Arial...this is normal)7. Download the needed fonts in the PVP (i.e. msgothic.ttc) using instructions in Aid 270818. Restart the PVP9. Configure a Font Linking inside the PVP (instructions in Aid 44861); linking Arial base font to the Japanese Font (i.e. msgothic.ttc) you will obtain all the Arial texts will display as Japanese characters when this language will be selected10. Create the Runtime Application, download it to the PVP and Run Application.11. Try the language switching, it should work fine ! Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for the quick answer. Regarding item 4: do I have to use one of the fonts listed in Aid 27118 for Japanese? If so, what's the difference between the various ones (subsets) listed? I would like to use one the smallest file size listed (subset 30_1_19) because of the limited memory of the PV600+. Yes, you need to use those fonts... subsets are files generated from the original font, with reduced number of characters, to see the difference you may open Windows Character Map, point the Font and scroll available characters... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix V13 I am attempting to add a module to an operating Control Logix system. When I goto the module configuration and right click the New Module selection is greyed out. I was able to add a module in a simular fassion using Logix V15. Does anybody know if there is a problem doing this using V13 ?? ### Assistant: Maybe a silly question.... are there available free slots to add the new module in the chassis configuration ? :smileytongue: Otherwise, may you post the .ACD file (insert it in a .zip file) ? - fuzzy logic The option to add a module to the local or a remote chassis at runtime was not added until firmware revision 15. Thanks, I hought that may be the case.I'll have to Flash it to 15 when we shutdown next. Ahhh.... you're trying it in online / run mode ... :smileysurprised: always I read too quickly... :smileytongue: MikeThom answer is correct, though... Aid 45086 Apologize for confusion.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: shutting down windows from ME runtime Hello, I am running FTView ME runtime 5.1 on a VersaView 1500P computer, running Windows XP SP3.I would like to completely shut down the computer from the ME application. How may I do that ? RegardsHep ### Assistant: Only possibility I can think is to use Program Launcher Activex (Aid 20474) to launch a shutdown utility...there are many free downloads on the web, try to see THIS results from Google... Just I've not tested this, if you want, give it a try... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hello, I used your ActiveX to launch a utility called AM WinOff.It works quite good. ThanksHep Nice to see it ! Thanks for your feedback, really appreciated... and if you want also to assign Kudos to my previous answer, it would be great! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I already did it ... Thanks, I appreciate, but I can't see your Kudos assigned :smileysad: ; there is only 1 Kudos and comes from JHutch... Never mind.... - fuzzy logic You are right ...It didn't works ... I've on it sevral times, but nothing appends ... I am running FireFox 3.0.13 SorryHep Yeah, it is a known problem.... I've posted a thread for that... just installing last 3.5.2. version of FF (or using IE) will work fine. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic upgrade done, it works ... Hep, many thanks for you patience and cooperation ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy is such a Kudos junkie ... the thread to fix the kudos problem is twice as long as the thread to actually fix the problem ... ;) JHutch I'm a Forum junkie, this is the reality ! :smileysurprised: And you JHutch should be happy if I spend my time to teach and support Forum users to use all the feartures you 've made available ! :smileywink: I like so much Kudos and Solution's marks because they confirm me I've done a good job and solved somebody troubles... unfortunately in the *real* world is more and more difficult to receive gratitude for your good job...so let me enjoy this little satisfaction here... :smileytongue: :smileyvery-happy:- fuzzy logic I *am* happy you're a junkie! ... but does that make me your drug dealer? Hmm... JHutch Oh, yessss ! :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Hope you will not give fuzzi answers :smileyvery-happy: Hope you will not give fuzzi answers :smileyvery-happy: Not always.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ascii display on a PVP from a PLC5 I have an older process that has a higher end HMI installed on it. I would like to switch out the HMI to a PVP1500. I would like to do this without much change in the PLC. I have a screen that displays and allows entry of some ascii data on the old HMI. The ascii data is contained in A46:0-9. When I set up a tag in the PVP to look at this location and make the length = 10 the tag will only show what is in A46:0. Is there a simple way to have the HMI tag look at A46:0-A46:9? Thanks ### Assistant: Aid 24651 contains informations about String display for PLC-5 data in View ME. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Smart Guard 600 with ethernet comms Can I program this plc throught the ethernet port, and if so what software do I need to use. Also is there any specific publications that explain this, I have found several about devicenet and the usb but not the ethernet. Thanks ### Assistant: Yes, you can do that, informations about needed software are in Aid 61509. See also Aid 56983 , User Manual , Reference Manual , Inst. Instructions for other infos about Smarguard 600. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Question about data logging and retrieval in Micrologix 1100 Hello,I am working with a micrologix 1100, and I have several floats which have to stored throughout the day, and then downloaded every day by an operator. I have created the data logging file, but I can't figure out how to get the data out of the PLC. The manual states that There are a number of retrieval tools designed for use with Palm OS, Window 9x, and Windows NT. You can download these free tools from our website. I haven't been able to find these free tools, nor have I found any examples on how to retrieve data. Can someone help me out with either examples or explanations. AG ### Assistant: I was curious where you created your data log files. Are they inside the controller? I have used data log models with an HMI package (like RSView) to log PLC data, but I am not familiar with any native data retrieval methods. eeprom, here the link to the Data Logging Utility: http://www.ab.com/programmablecontrol/plc/micrologix/downloads.html Aid 18498 contains a Quick Start Guide, there is also another thread that could be interesting for you: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Logix&message.id=1651#M1651 samprou, chapter 22 of Micrologix Reference Manual contains info about Data Logging feature. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Redundancy in ControlLogix - We have a project that is requiring Redundant CLX controllers. We have two processors in the system so we have a two chassis with two processors each. We have dual ethernet modules (EN2T) and dual control net modules (CN2R). We are using L61 processors all around. I have configured remote chassis' before but have not had any experience with redundancy. It gets deeper, we have one remote chassis that is controlled by one CLX, we have two chassis that are controlled by the second CLX. The two CN2R's are split, one pair (primary and secondary) goes to the single chassis and the second pair (primary and secondary) goes to the other two remotes. Each of the chassis connected to the second processor are different equipment islands, completly different functions Does anyone here have a source that has sample redundancy layouts? Any pointers would be appreciated like you wouldn't believe. ### Assistant: Semi, I'd start with the ControlLogix Redundancy System User Manual, publication 1756-UM523F-EN-P (12/06) and the ControlLogix Enhanced Redundancy System 16.80 Release Notes, publication 1756-RN650C-EN-E (06/09) on the Literature Library website. A Literature Library search using keyword Redundancy will likely have these and other useful pubs on the first page or so of listings. We did a system using the 15.60 version of the CL Redundancy System User Manual and it worked very well. Once we followed the rules for CNet node numbering, that is! You'll want to go through the manual carefully once, then lay out your system with node numbers, slot locations, firmware revisions, etc., all documented. Then go through the manual again, checking your design against each item in the manual to make sure you have it right. Be sure you have downloaded the redundancy bundle of firmware updates from the Software Updates site for your target system and installed it -- then ControlFlash will be all set to go when you fire up the hardware. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ Dale, thanks for the information. I have to use the version for release 17 of the software as I will have dual processors in the same chassis.My problem is I don't know if the release 16.# release will let me setup the system as needed. At first we were fine as the project was put on hold indefinately, last week they activated the project and want some immediate program information. We will be using Control Net for our redundant remote I/O x2, one for the BMS and the second for the non-safety portions of the project. We will have the Primary and Secondary chassis' for the processors and communications. One chassis for the BMS and two chassis' for the non-safety related processes. If you happen across any new manuals for the later revisions of software please not them here. I'm not desperate yet, but I'm getting close!!!!!!!! Thanks again. Tom / Semilogical Tom, I confirm the hints Dale gave you, just want to add some notes... If I have correctly understood, you have two separated ControlNet networks; this particular layout is illustrated in the -UM523F User Manual, page 28; there are some rules to use that configuration, follow indications on same manual, starting at page 35. Then, review Aid 61501 for a Quick check of your configuration, Aid 41441 and Aid 45930 for Controlnet rules in redundant system. Anyway, my last suggestion is to contact your RA representative to let them confirm and validate your configuration, just to be sure to be on the right way, as redundancy is a quite complex system, not so difficult to run, but it must be planned carefully. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView 32 popup not working properly I have created several popup type displays. When you click on an object on a display, the popup is set up to display on top of display in which it was called. Instead, the popup is opening and filling the entire screen, like maximizing itself to fill the screen. Can anyone help me? I have tried so many different combinations and none have worked. If someone could give me settings that work, I will try it. Thanks, ### Assistant: Only two settings I remember for which this could happen are: Display command with /max optionDisplay settings for On Top - Size to Main Windows at Runtime flagged Which is the RSView32 version are you using ?Did you also tried the same with a new application, with just a couple of displays ?Could you attach an example application to a new post ? - fuzzy logic It is really weird, it runs fine on my laptop but when I run it at other location, it fills the screen. The other location is either server 2003 or XP and it is has some type of video card in which it will display on 4 large plasma screens. It might be something with the video driver?? What do you think. Like I said, when I just run a graphic and call the popup from the running graphic, it works fine, from my laptop. Not sure what is going on. Thanks, Hmmm. yes, my guess is troubles come from that video card / configuration. Unfortunately I can't help on that.... just want to point you out to some technotes about multiple monitors use, maybe you'll find something useful... :smileysurprised: Aid 8377 - Aid 51205Aid 34321Aid 24607Aid 43521 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Simple way to compare the values in two instances of a UDT? I have a UDT called Recipe. It consists of DINTS, SINTS, REALS and BOOLS. I have one instance of this UDT called Current_Recipe and another called Recipe_Library. Recipe_Library is a 10 element array. What I want to do is compare ALL of the values in Current_Recipe against Recipe_Library[x]. Is there a simple way in Logix5000 to do this, or do I have to go through piece by piece to make the compare? I'm checking to make sure that the temperatures, times, etc are the same in both. If it matters, I am using V16. Thanks! Joe ### Assistant: Hmmm... it would be not so easy as all of the compare type instructions must be specified down to the element level of a file or structure of a UDT in order to execute, therefore it would not be an easy task to compare all the values of a complex UDT to see if perhaps they had changed or to make sure they are what they are supposed to be..... take a look to Aid 45384, there is a method you may utilize... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Joe, Maybe COP each UDT-typed Tag to an appropriately-sized DINT array, then use an FSC to compare the DINT arrays? Use the FSC in ALL mode, and clear the EN bit right before you scan it. All you care about is the Found bit after the compare. Might take some scan time, plus the memory for the two added array tags, but the code itself should be reasonably simple. For your array, instead of using FOR instructions (which require a new routine), I'd just set a DINT index tag to zero, then start a loop (using LBL at the top and JMP at the bottom) to increment the index of which one in the array I copy and compare. (For the singleton, you only need to copy it once, before the loop.) If you do use the FOR, you should be able to pass a UDT instance from the calling routine and have it show up in a DINT array in the called routine. Subroutine parameter passing (stacking and unstacking) doesn't do type checking. Just return the Found status from the subroutine. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ Hello Joe, I have exactly the same question ... What was your solution ? Did someone wrote an AOI for that ? regardsHep n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation Lost- System crash I lost my factory talk activation coz of system crash, how can i get a new activation, please suggest a way forward ### Assistant: Just contact TechSupport; giving them the Serial Number and the Product Key of your software, they will be able to help you to activate your software again. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus 1250 will not accept username/password to access protected functions Hi all, we are using a Panelview Plus 1250 to run an application that allows the operator of one of our pieces of machinery to monitor the status of the machine. We have programmed some 'Engineering' Functions the controls for which are behind a password lockout. Occasionally we need to access these to make minor adjustments to the machine parameters. However, very often, the screen will not accept the username/password. I know the password/username being entered is correct (there is only one so it cant be confused). The only way out of this is to re-download the original programme. Is there a way of determining what the password might be when it wont accept from the panel or the software??? I originally thought maybe the panel was somehow corrupting the runtime application, so i programmed a new panel and the same thing happens. The software used for programming is RSView Studio ME V4.00. The username/password is just programmed using this software, is it possible there is a glitch in the RSView software or runtime application which causes this to happen??? Many thanks for any help you can give. ### Assistant: Make sure that user/password combination is in the windows login info for that computer... password protection can do funny things if it doesn't line up just right. project user password to computer user password privileges level n"}
{"text": "### Human: Gaurd Logix Communication of Devicenet using PDN card I am using Guard Logix 1756-L62S Processor with LSP Module and in the same rack I take Device net card 1756-DNB andI am using POINT SAFETY IO(1734-IB8S, 1734-OB8S) by using communication card 1734-PDN. Can we use this concept? I got doubt because I could not be able to configure this hardware on Logix 5000 software. Should be we buy and addon for this software.? I appreciate for quick reply since my design in under hold due to this doubt. ### Assistant: Yes, it is an allowed configuration, but you have to be aware of some limitations; see Aid 57732 and Aid 61023. The GuardLogix Safety Editor is only included with the Full and Professional editions of RSLogix 5000. Service and Standard editions allow upload/download and view capabilities, but you cannot edit or add safety tags, safety instructions or safety modules.Alternatively, the GuardLogix editor can be purchased separately and added to Standard edition to gain safety functionality. The catalog number for this part is 9324-RLDGLXE. NOTE: If you are attempting to edit or create a Safety project with a version of RSLogix 5000 other than that listed above, you will observe the following symptoms:Safety Task is grayed out (unable to edit)Safety module configurations cannot be edited or changedSafety modules are not available in the pick list for you to add to your I/O configurationYou cannot select L61S, L62S or L63S when creating a new projectYou cannot Safety Lock/Unlock, create or delete a Safety Signature Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communtcation Error on Powerflex 40 Drive with DeviceNet I have a DeviceNet MCC and a Poweflex 40 Drive in a tub. I am having very random Faults they say Fault 71 Adaptor Net Loss. The Lights on the communication card are flashing Green on the Mod light and the Net A light. It does this off and on every few days. If you turn the power off to the drive it resets it and the lights all go solid green and the drive starts to function correctly. Its goes from device net to a scanner to ethernet. Any Ideas ?? ### Assistant: Check to see how many Dnet nodes you have on the link and also how fast is your RPI (update time) set for the drive. Also, you can configure the drive to not fault or alarm on net loss. I am having the same problem but it is with Profibus. I am using PowerFlex 40 drives in Multi-drive mode on Profibus using 22-COMM-P adapter with Siemens S7-300 series PLC. I have two drives in Multi-drive mode and one in Single drive mode. The drives which are in Multi-Drive mode having a Fault F71 adaptor Net Loss. All lights on the comms cards are solid green. But the drive in single drive mode has a Mod light flashing green and also showing Fault F71. It is not showing any fault on the PLC. Any idea? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra3000 fault code vs Clx Is there a way to have the fault code displayed at the front of the drive (Exx) into a plc register? I'm using a sercos card with a Clx controller. Thanks ### Assistant: No. I posed this question several months ago to Rockwell tech support and the answer was no. Not even a message instruction would retrieve the information. would the sample code How to read K6k 7 Segment Display Fault Code on RSLogix5000 work? Or is this just for Kinetic 6000? I would use this Sample code otherwise Motion Control fault capture logic and HMI screens . I have used this basic logic and converted the HMI to RSView32 as well as in FTView ME. This at lease will get you the current fault of any axis and the history. I think that the MSG to read the Sercos IDN 95 could also work for U3K... as it is related to Sercos IDentification Number, not to a particular drive.IDN 95 is related to Diagnostic of the drive and describes its status. The only limitation could be to the fact thatAll SERCOS interface products must incorporate a subset of these, but do not necessarily need to include all IDNs. Here a link to the Sercos site, with a short description of IDN. http://www.sercos.com/technology/sercos_idns.htm I can't find out a list of the IDNs supported in U3K Sercos Interface, so I think the best way is to test it on a *real* drive... :smileytongue: Also a KB note that explains this Sercos Messaging is not supported by RA phone support. :smileysad: Aid 50716 - fuzzy logic Just a little bit late... (but maybe useful to others also) :smileytongue: Have a look to the following manual to see the Sercos IDNs available in the Kinetix / Ultra drives. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/m08seg-wp001_-en-p.pdf See Appendix D Thanks to atahualpa who provided the link. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Sample Logic, AOI, and FactoryTalk View ME screen that retrieves the E code from the seven segment display of a SERCOS Ultra 3000 and stores the fault with time stamp, axis structure, and motiongroup structure in an array. History stores the last 50 faults. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC-3: Bypass Rules? are there any suggested rules, when I have to use a bypass for the SMC-3?maximal coninuous operation is 18h per day. ### Assistant: Did you see technote 49481 ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC-3 series b: compressor is pulsing i have a switch cabinet for a heat pump with two compressors, I want to test it with a smaller compressor, but the smc-3 is pulsing the compressor for ca 1 minute befor continuous operation. what can I do that the start is not pulsing? using a zh21ke-tfd-524 compressor with:LRA: 27-33I-Block: 35I-oper: 7 smc-3 setting: FLA :20on-Dip: 2,3,5,11,15,16 ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 40356... also this other thread if applicable... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: analog module hi fellowsi want to learn the rslogix 5000 by using rs emulator.for the digital side it works well.now i want to use analog simulation.is it possible with rs emulator i have rs emulator version 15 and also have rslogix version 15.if it is possible how can i configure the module and how i use the analog values.please help mehamad ### Assistant: RSLogix Emulate 5000 has not an Analog simulation module available... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS LOGIX 5 HI FELLOWSWHERE I DOWNLOAD THE RS LOGIX 5 DEMO VERSION OR RSLOGIX7 DEMO VERSION TO STUDY THE PLC5 SOFTWARE.OUR COMPANY USED AB6200 VERSION 4.5.OUR OLD NOTE BOOKS ARE DAMGED. AB6200 IS NOT AVAILABLE MORE SO I WANT TO DOWNLOAD THE DEMO FOR STUDY.HAMAD ### Assistant: For what I can remember, there isn't a demo CD available for RSLogix5. :smileysad: You have to contact your RA representative and ask for a Temporary Activation of that software. Demo version is only available for RSLogix 5000. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CS3000 for Windows XP Dear All, Can we access the CS3000 application for Windows XPI have tried to communicate the FlexPak 3000 using via Windows XP butCommunication Error. I have read the CS3000 Manual. CS3000 only require for Windows 3.1, NT and 98. Thanks ### Assistant: Check to make sure your cabling is correct. I use CS3000 ver 6.14 all the time with FlexPak3000 and GV3000 drives with Windows XP Hi, if RSlinx is running a driver for your serial port, shut it down and retry Does anyone know where I can get CS3000 software? The software should be available from any A-B distributor. Also, any Reliance Electric distributor should be able to supply. Try to see at the following link for CS3000 software download: http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/d2916.htm edit: updated download link http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/CS3000.zip - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Networking Compact logix and Micrologix 1100 over ethernet I am testing a new system in which I a using explicit messaging to transfer data between a L23E and an 1100. The messaging is all set up in the RS5000 project as detailed in tech note 43384, I can see the 1100 via Linx and online with networks through RS5000 but I am not getting the values from the 1100. Have a missed a vital step in the process? ### Assistant: Also Aid 29358 contains a guided example for MSG... just double check your settings... Anyway, any error messages in MSG instruction ?Which is the firmware version of MX1100 controller ? It should be at least v5... May you post the MSG configurations or both programs to analyze ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CS3000 Software Does anyone know where I can get CS3000 software? ### Assistant: Try to see at the following link for CS3000 software download: http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/d2916.htm edit: updated download link http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/CS3000.zip - fuzzy logic Thank you very much. I could not seem to locate that Link. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC 5/13 to Contorllogix Platform Dear All, Allen Bradley PLC 5/13 CPU is installed with Input Output Module. As PLC 5/13 is very old and now we want to upgrade the systems. As we decided to go in Control Logix Platform. ( 300 I/O's). Please confirm that Logix of PLC 5/13 will work with Control logix Platform or we have to make a New Logic for Control Logix Platform. Please guide the same. ### Assistant: Application program should be converted to be used in a ControlLogix; you may use the Translation Tool that is inside RSLogix5000; this will reduce the work you need to convert your application, leaving anyway some things to do later to complete this conversion. In the following technote you may find an useful explanation of this tool. Aid 21962 See also the Reference Manual Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I have done a dozen plus conversions. The conversion program works well but leaves a lot of junk in the ControlLogix program. The most difficult part is converting the analog IO modules. You loose all the block transfers, move the scaling to the modules, and the numbers for the scaling are different. Also, the old memory mapping that comes threw as alias can cause a lot of confusion. Sometimes I do not let the program make addresses automatically but fix things as I go. Either way spending the time getting rid of the old aliases and learning the program better will pay of greatly in the debugging process. I have come to the conclusion that you are better to run the conversion program but use the conversion only to copy things from. I start with a blank program and put the ControlLogix IO in first. I then copy and paste sections of code that need to be used over. I find most old PLC5 programs were done as a single massive routine even though the controller allowed you to break things up. In the copy process I try and make a lost of smaller more manageable routines. Fuzzy notes a references manual. You really need to get this, print it out, and spend some time studying it before you begin. Some parts in Chapter 1 are dated and do not let them confuse you. The rest of the book is very, very useful. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView + Printing to a network PDF print converter Has anyone had any success printing PV+ displays using a networked PDF printer such as desk PDF? ### Assistant: I'd imagine that's not going to work, since there is no way to add printer drivers to a PV+ to support the PDF printer. Rule of thumb, if the printer isn't natively PCL compatible, it's not going to print (and there are even exceptions to that rule, because some printer manufacturers play fast and loose with the definition of natively PCL compatible.) JHutch Thanks for your reply. Bottom line customer wantsto save his run time displays as a file that he can open and view. Print to file capability? I can't think of a way to do that with a PV+ ... though you could use the PDF printer if you ran the ME application on a standard computer with the ME Station Runtime. Rockwell sells some industrial class computers and monitors (with touch screen capability if needed) that would probably get the job done just fine. JHutch Are the PDF's so the customer can get a status of the system?Sounds more like a data collection & reporting system would be in the way to go. Will be more $ upfront, but a good long term solution. -Mark www.theAPAKGroup.com After much hemming and hawing on the customers part we went with a higher end system to get him his reports. Thanks to all for the input. Is this something that may be acheivable with Viewpoint? Definite possibility. Since ViewPoint will allow a read-only window into the PV+ functions, you could navigate to the desired report screen then use a print screen on the computer to output to PDF. If the report requires more than goto screen buttons to access the information, though, it won't work since ViewPoint, in the first version, will not allow data entry of any kind. JHutch Thank you for the input. I do have an update for you. While this doesn't print to a pdf directly it does work. 1. Set up a network printer. Configure it to print to file.2. Configure your panelview plus to print screen to the network printer.3. Use a utility such as PCLReader to view the file. There are also conversion utilities to generate a pdf file. PCL reader can be downloaded from www.pclreader.com/ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Continuous computing using an VBA subroutine I am trying to do continuous calculations using a tag in a Visual Basic subroutine more or less once per 5 seconds. The problem is that I need the previous data of such tag, so that if I close the program and reopen it every time I lose them and if I leave it open and keep it running continuously my computer obviously gets hung. Any idea? ### Assistant: You don't say in what package (RSView32 or FT View SE), however in general it is not good practice to have repeat calls to VBA routines like this,particularly when using calls to tags. But this does depend on what else your application is doing and how much other VBA code you have in the project. Have you considered using 'Derived Tag Files'? If you really have to do this I would suggest the best way is to reference the tags globally on project start-up and only release when the project is closed. Then in the routine it is only necessary to reference the value. To keep old values you can use the 'Static' keyword' for local variables. However these will be lost when project is completely closed. If you need to preserve across project start/stop you can write the values to a text file and then recover them on start-up. Ditto to York..man's ..not good practice to have repeat calls to VBA routines..  roughly translated -> you're asking for pesky RSView32 problems when you make repeated, frequent calls to VBA. n"}
{"text": "### Human: UNABLE TO OPEN GFX FILE IN RSVIEW32 Dear All, Why do I get the error  unable to open file <projectpathdisplayname>.gfx whenever i tried to open the gfx files in other .rsv projects.I faced this problem whenever i downloaded new gfx faceplates from rockwell automation sites and tried to open in my projects. ### Assistant: Which is the RSView32 version do you have ?Maybe the .gfx file has been realized with a newer version of the software and cannot be open with *old* releases... May you provide the link and the name of the files are you trying ? Are you sure they are for RSView32 and not View SE ? - fuzzy logic When copying a new gfx file into an existing rsview32 project, there are two steps: 1. Copy the file into the existing project's gfx folder ( of course), 2. In RSView32 project folder, right click on Graphic..Display, and from the pop up menu select Copy existing component into... n"}
{"text": "### Human: want to make a factory break buzzer controller from a PLC. the controller needs to be able to recieve the radio signal from the atomic clock system to keep it accurate. then need to be able to sound alarms on and off 20 to 30 times daily. thanks for any help in this matter. ### Assistant: I have previously used a PLC card from www.Hiprom.com for acess to the atomic clock in the world satelite GPS system Very easy to set up and comes with an arial and required cable n"}
{"text": "### Human: Flex I/O Expansion How do I setup my flex I/O that I can add I/O modules in the future without having to change any configurations, I am using a Controlling on Enet to a Flex I/O adapter and want to be able to add 2 output modules in the future do I have to have the 1794-TB3 in place so the slots are reserved so I can just put the I/O on in a few months and it will work with no configuring? I understand you must select your size of your flex I/O slots. My concern is do the TB3's need to physically be attached to the flex I/O adapter or can I add them with the I/O with power applied? ### Assistant: Yes, you may do that, just you need to connect the empty Terminal Bases to the others by the connector, so that you will just add the I/O module over them in future. - fuzzy logic I have done this on ControlNet, so I believe it will work on Ethernet. I have 1794 nodes with chassis size=8, but only 3 modules in them and no extra terminal bases. Setting the chassis size sets the array size created in your controller tags, it does not schedule a connection. If you add the modules in the IO tree and they are not physically installed, just make sure they are inhibited. What you wrote, MikeThom is correct... :smileywink: Just I was suggesting to connect future needed Terminal Bases right away, because it seems to me the user need to install modules without stop the plant... habs wrote: My concern is do the TB3's need to physically be attached to the flex I/O adapter or can I add them with the I/O with power applied? In that case, adding terminal bases when the system is powered, it isn't a good practise... whereas inserting module over an already connected TB is allowed. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: DTAM replacement? We service older OEM irrigation pump stations that use a SLC 5/02 with a 1747-DTAM as the operator interface. We also use the 1747-DTAM as a hand-held service tool for viewing/clearing CPU faults, register editing and memory transfer functions on SLC 5/02 & 5/03. I just found out that this unit is no longer available and from what I can see, the DTAM Plus & Micro do not allow me to do everything that I need to do. Is there anything that will view/clear CPU faults, allow register editing and has memory transfer functions for SLC 5/02 & 5/03. ### Assistant: May you please point out which are the limitations do you see in using either DTAM Micro or DTAM Plus ? Although there are many Visualization solutions allowing you to interact with PLC's registers, the Memory Transfer feature seems to not be available into those Operator interfaces. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: problem writing a value to pf700 using datalinks I have setup parameter 152, Droop RPM @ FLA, as a datalink so I can write a value this parameter from a controllogix L61 plc. I have the datalink defined by setting parameter 301, Data In A2, to 152, and the parameter shows up as a tag in the plc. However, when I set the tag in the plc to a value, that value does not show up in the drive. The communications I am using is controlnet. I also have the 20-comm-c parameters 13,25,26 all set to 00001111 to enable datalinks A - C.The drive is receiving my speed reference and commands just fine, and I am receiving all the datalinks from the drive to the plc just fine. ### Assistant: Just a couple of notes trying to help: 1. verify you are writing a value that falls in the valid range for parameter.2. verify to have re-scheduled the Controlnet after inserting DataLinks in the RS5000 drive configuration3. As per Aid 56977, avoid to have other datalinks linked to read-only parameters. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply, the problem was that the value I was trying to write was not within the acceptable range. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ascii instruction issues with MicroLogix 1400 I have an existing system that receives ASCII data from a bar code scanner over the com port. The data is received by using an ARL instruction to read the data and store in a string file. At the end of the program, once the control word done bit for the ARL instruction is set, I enable an ACL instruction to clear the buffers and reset the port for the next string. This logic works great for the MicroLogix 1100, but I am now trying to use the same code with a MicroLogix 1400. When I run the same instructions, I have issues with the ACL instruction not completing (the Done Bit of my control word is not being reset, and the .pos of the control word does not return to 0). I have also noticed that while editing the ACL instruction, occasionally the Receive Buffer and the Transmit Buffer conditions (yes or no) will spontaneously invert. Any Ideas??? ### Assistant: Hello, Do you use the same Comm port because there is 2 channel on the micrologix 1400.So you need to change the channel number in your ASCII instruction. Have you check that the Comm port is configured in ASCII mode ?Have you check that you are using the Defined Mode and not the System Mode ? I hope it can help you. Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ring Pin?? Hi, I´m using Micrologix 1500. How can i in Ladder Logic, know if the Ring Pin (pin 9, RS-232) is active? Thanks in advance, Lectularius ### Assistant: The Status file bits can give you indication of active comms on the serial channelsDownload the ML1500 Reference manual 1762-RM001C-EN-P and look at chapter 3 on the Communications status file Just one more note, you may want to monitor DCD pin, be aware it is available in the Channel 1 status only... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel Mate 1700 Version 4.1 I have a Panel Mate that has password protection set to enter offline mode. I require password A to enter offline mode. Unfortunately I checked the box that allowed password A to be changed. I recently visited this Panel Mate and found that someone had changed the password and I have no idea what the password is. Is there any method or password that trumps password A? I would expect some key sequence to force it to offline mode but have been unsuccessful. I have tried to use the feature that forces the display to go to a page. The closest I can get is page 1001 which is the configuration page. It appears that offline mode is not considered a page. ### Assistant: Rockwell Automation doesn't support PanelMate (not our product)... now if you meant something else and your fingers typed without your input (I swear mine do that sometimes!), amend your question and we'll take it from there! JHutch My apologies, our workplace is mainly Allen-Bradley and I typed without much thought. I typed correctly but thought incorrectly. Thanks for the reply n"}
{"text": "### Human: Focus Issue I have job codes that come down from a server, The codes include capital letters and some special characters. Though jobs are sent from the office the operator can enter any code he wants on the HMI via String input on FT View SE. To make it so the operator does not have to use the cap button on the on screen keyboard I have PLC code that looks at this string input. I use the UPPER instruction to make all letters caps, and the FIND, DELETE, and INSERT to change numbers to there special characters. This all work great. My problem is when focus is on the string input it will not display the actual string data in the PLC, it displays the last entered data. Is there a way to get focus off the string input when the download button is touched on the keyboard. ### Assistant: Not really an expert of VBA, anyway I've realized sometimes a similar thing... :smileytongue: You may use VBA, and transfer the Focus to another object on the page (also a *dummy* one), when the download command is issued: Private Sub Display_BeforeInputFieldDownload(Cancel As Boolean) ListBox1.SetFocus End SubIn the above code, the focus is set over a ListBox when the String Input field value is downloaded; obviously you may transfer the focus to other object than ListBox... Be aware this act at the Display level, so every Input Field will loose its focus on download.... Hope that helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk ME DDE Please point me in the right direction. I'm working on an appication using a DDE link with either RSLinx or FT ME. I would like to use DDE as a datalogger for 5 or 6 tags in a CompactLogix PLC. These would be collected on a 1 second interval. I would also like to start, stop, and save the file into Excel with a unique ID (all triggered from the PLC). Preferably this would all be done automatically. I looked into using the Datalogger in ME, but I found that I could not rename, or start and stop the datalogger without stopping the whole application. Does anyone have some suggestions or even better, an example? Thanks in advance,Sparky2 PS... I originally posted this (in error) in the FAQ board. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the following thread, there are some info about DDE implementation using RSLinx Classic. http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=PLC_SLC&message.id=595#M596 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The following thread also about timed macro in excel.... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Logix&message.id=914#M915 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for your prompt response fuzzy logic.I will look through these technotes and try them out. Best regards,Sparky2 You're welcome... and thanks for your feedback ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ACTIVATION CONCURRENT LICESENCE NOT SHOWING IN REHOST TAB Hi, my license dont showing in rehost tab and anywhere. I download the license in another with Internet acces because my PC dont have internet access I download the concurrent License from rockwell license page but when I copy the license in my PC without internet I can not see it in Factory Talk Activation Tool Software. How can identify if the license is corrupt or how can do for License Rehost ? Thanks... ### Assistant: Hi, following a couple of things to check: Did you copy the .lic file in the folder indicated in last tab of FactoryTalk Activation Tool ? When you've activated the license, to which HostID did you *link* it ? ...that HostID should be present in the PC where you need the activation to work. Tips about rehosting process are in Aid 44620 - fuzzy logic And make sure your license file has the extension .lic because in a lot of cases I have seen .lic.txtTo justify this you 'll better uncheck the option Hide extensions for known file types in the Folder Options menu (in Windows).Now you can easily find out the true extension. Thanks.... Jammy It work for me!!!! n"}
{"text": "### Human: retentivity in rsview32 - Hi AB users, Can rsview32 tags can be made retentive ?if so how ? ### Assistant: Hi krishna... yes, it is possible using an utility installed with the RSView32 Resources CD. You may also download the last Resource Kit from HERE. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic As requested by krishna, following the link to the Resource Kit for RSView32 v7.40. http://www.software.rockwell.com/support/download/detail.cfm?ID=3600 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: configure 1756-CNBR/E as CNBR/D On our ship we have a redundant network of 9 PLC units. All communication cards are 1756-CNBR/D Rev 5.45. We have 1 spare control net comm card 1756-CNBR/E Rev 10.7. The system is running under RSLogix 5000 Version 13.03. I would like to configure the spare card as 1756-CNBR/D Rev 5.45 so that I have a compatible spare part that is plug and play in case there is a problem. I have made a setup of  backplane-power supply and the 1756-CNBR/E card. To this I connected my laptop via a 1784-PCC card and running RSlogix5000 / RS Linx When I start RSWho I can see the comm card, but it is 'unknown'. When I start Controlflash (downloaded latest version comms bundle 10_03_08), all I can do is upgrade to version 11.2.3 I can not see the firmware versions of the 1756-CNBR/D, although the catalogue number 1756-CNBR/D was selected. He only sees the latest version for the 1756-CNBR/E. Has anyone been confronted with this before? Can anyone please explain me how I can : 1) see this card in a correct way and not 'unknown' 2) reconfigure it as a 1756-CNBR/D Rev 5.45and see the backplane . using my setup (backplane-power supply-card-1784-PCC comm. card and laptop). I can not interfere with the existing network of the ship for doing this. Thanks. ### Assistant: 1) To see the card you should install the right EDS file which can be found at http://www.ab.com/networks/eds/ Use the EDS Hardware Installation Tool to install this EDS file 2) You cannot flash from one series to another (i.e Series B to Series C or D) with the exception of series A and series B modules, which can be flashed between series A and B. In this case you should first see the card in a right way in RSLinx, and this can only be accomplished with the right EDS file (see point 1) Just a couple of notes.... 1. I suggest to upgrade CNBR to latest firmware available2. Carefully read technote 36453 for rules/limitations on using series E to replace older modules. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Uploading a new project to a logix 5561 Allen Bradley PLC Dear All I am posted to a site in the deepest desert of Saudi in a place called Sharourah. Google it and see the ends of the earth. We have a AB PLC logix 5561 used for a fire and gas system which I am trying to commission. We could not get comms with our main control panel for a week only to be told by head office that the project file *.ACD had been erased from the flashmemory and sent to site anyway. I have installed RSlogix 5000 software for version 15.2(version matches projcet), RS LINX classic, Executive drive 4.0 on my laptop and gone thru all the activations. We have tried to upload the new project using advice from our head office by configuring new drives in RS LINX and setting an ip address for the LAN connection, checking this in RSWho etc but it always seems to come down to us not have a path created to the project. We are very close to starting up our gas turbine and I am going up the wall with this I desperately need a upload a new project into the PLC for idiots guide or even a link to download the correct manual. A disk for startup media also came with our package but it seems to be corrupted as I can,t get it to open. Hoping someone can help. I have added a few screenshots to try and clarify our issue regardsTom ### Assistant: Sorry can t seem to add the Attachment screenshots. Hi Tom, my suggestion is to take a look to the useful videos at the following link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/solutions/integratedarchitecture/resources4.html Navigate through the link named RSLogix 5000 Start Page Videos for New Users. There is also a Getting Results guide you may read. After that, post again if you have other troubles... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Fuzzy Logic Many thanks for your prompt reply. I had a brief look at the getting started and it describes creating a brand new project.As I already have a project and want to upload it I think the procedure maybe different. When we go in RS LOGIX 5000 program and select file, open we can then go to our project and see it on the rs logix 5000 main screen. But how do we config a path to upload to the PLC. When we do a RSWho in rslinx we do not see any previous projects. Tom Tom, although it is very easy to do a download to a controller when the procedure is known, proportionally it is difficult to guide you through a post... :smileysurprised: Anyway, I suggest again a quick look inside the videos, select Get Connected to see how to configure the RSLinx driver correctly, then My First Project - Go Online to understand how to connect to the controller via RSLogix 5000. Take also a look to the Quick Start guide, sure it will help. Finally remember your controller will require a firmware upgrade if it is new, or if it has a firmware different than 15.x (as you wrote you're using version 15 of software in this project); procedure is also in a video section in Get Connected sub-link, named Load Firmware in a new Controller. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Is you ethernet card displaying an IP address. If not your going to need to configure it vai BOOTP. Just to inform the thread is Solved, as reported by the user in another thread... :smileywink: topcat wrote: Fuzzy Logic Thanks for your great advice. I needed to create a driver using the ethernet driver option rather than ethernet/ip option and followed the user guides. PLC up and running. Couldn,t find my thread as had been moved and link would not work. regardsTom - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Major Fault, Type 6, Code 1 After upgrading firmware from 15 to 16, I began getting unrecoverable errors on a L63 processor that has a 3.5MB memory usage and uses batch phase manager. I upgraded again to ersion 17 and continued to have the same situation, happening more frequently. I called Techconnect and they advised to increase my watchdog timer from 500ms to 525ms, which I did. At that time I also increased the time slice value to 40% and the system crashed 36 hours later. I have increased the time slice again to 60% earlier today to see if that may help. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ### Assistant: Type 6 Code 1 is definitely a Watchdog fault. Have you been able to go online with the controller in its faulted mode to capture exactly which Program or Task is causing the fault ? It may be useful to check out the Programming Manual (1756-PM014) for Logix 5000 Controller Major and Minor Faults to construct a Fault Routine that can point you towards the offending task, program, or routine. It's suspicious that the faults began occurring after an upgrade from v15 to v16, especially because you're running PhaseManager routines. If anything, PhaseManager got faster and more robust in versions 16 and 17. I don't think the System Overhead Timeslice is helping; it actually allows the system to interrupt the Continuous Task more often, increasing its overall scantime. Poke around the monitoring tab for every task to find its maximum execution time to see if any of them are close to that 500 ms watchdog. I've never seen a genuine watchdog fault where a properly written routine actually took longer than 1/2 second to execute; I have only seen them happen when a routine inadvertently went into an infinite loop or attempted a too-large For/Next iterative process. I have a fault handling routine that captures the fault history into a UDT but have been able to get online (eventually) with the processor. There have been three different routines that have shown as the fault location and have correlated with what the operators said they were doing at the time of the failure. Monitoring the scan time before the changing of the time slice was 63ms for the main continuous task, 20ms for the first equipment phase task and 2ms for the second periodic task. After changing the time from 20 to 40, slice they changed a little to 75ms continuous, 25ms Equipment and 2.2ms periodic. I changed the time slice to 60 after the last fault and the scan times changed only a slight bit, but never near the 525ms watchdog timer value. After changing the time slice , I went looking through the program and status and remembered getting numerous minor faults due to the integrator's original code string handling routines. I found that the faults were still coming through, and quite numerous at times. Some of them would have generated a minor fault every program scan. In order to eliminate potential failure causes, I had these routines changed to one that is a bit more friendly (over 100 instances). I don't know if this is the issue, but the continuous routine scan time dropped to 70ms afterward still having the time slice at 60 which should have made it slower than when it was set to 40. Perhaps there was a change in the impact of minor faults at firmware version 16, or maybe I haven't found it yet since it has only been 12 hours since changing the code. I do not even have any loops in the program, though it is a fairly significant program in size. When instructed to increase the watchdog to 525ms, I figured I would do it just to tell Techconnect I did it, but didn't figure it would make any difference. I will update this if I either get another major error, or they stop coming. Since upgrading to version 17, the longest I have gone is 48 hours between failures so I shouldn't have to wait too long. Automator, It would help to have a summary of your Tasks, their configuration, and their reported performance. So Task x is continuous, it has n programs with aaa typical scan time and bbb max scan time, Task y is periodic at interval zzz, it has j programs with ccc typical scan time and ddd max scan time, etc. If you look at these as if you were the Task scheduler, you can kind of divvy up one typical second among the tasks and figure out what portion of the CPU you are using (and so what's left for comms, I/O scans, etc., etc.). It does take some time to log a minor fault. I don't offhand know what the amount of time is, but it's not insignificant. If you open up the Controller Properties and look at the Minor Fault tab, there's a count there of occurrences. How fast is this number increasing? If you were throwing and logging hundreds of Minor Faults per second, this could easily push your Task out to trip the watchdog. Since AOIs were added in V16, there are probably more kinds of things that generate Minor Faults, so the firmware to log one might take a teeny bit longer, and that may have pushed your time up into the watchdog, where it never (but almost) hit it before. Getting rid of the huge volume of Minor Faults has to have helped a lot. Let us know if it solved your issue. Note to others: math overflows (like divide by zero, or any wrap from positive to negative/vice versa in a DINT, or a REAL result of NaN or Infinity) throw minor faults. It can easily be worth the extra code and scan time to check for a zero divisor or range check inputs to a calculation in order to prevent the bump that logging the fault causes. Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ I placed traps to look at the scan times of the tasks and many of the programs and found no task going over 75ms all the way up to the time of the major fault which requires 550ms. Of the two processors that are giving me faults, one has been in service for three years without a problem and no major changes, but was running at version 15 firmware until recently. The second was a new addition to our system and the integrator wrote it in version 16 to take advantage of user AOI. In order to keep all the processors the same, we upgraded the old processors (one of the batch processors is not failing, though it has not run a batch in that time frame) in order to maintain commonality. We are on RSBatch version 8.0 with all the latest patch roll-ups installed, but that seems to be the common thread with the problem. The previously existing processor (1756-L63) has had the unrecoverable fault happen 8 times in the past two months and the new (1756-L61) has happened 7 times. While we have gotten quite good at changing processors, it is still disturbing and causing too much unplanned downtime. We have upgraded from version 16 to 17 in that time frame with no change. I am looking at moving the firmware version back to version 15 in the event there is an issue between our RSBatch version and the newer CPU firmware versions. I have saved the program as a.L5K, then changed the version line to 2.6 from 2.8 (the first try tells you what line failed). I opened the file as a version 15 and did a verify, finding errors on the GSV instructions for system time. I changed the date/time GSV to datetime instead of the new local time. I believe that is all I need to do to move the firware version back to 15and am looking atrying it as soon as production can give me a window. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTTM Passed transaction gets no data We are using FTTM 9 to make an unscheduled transaction with device-scheduled tags to MS Access.It has been working fine until we added more columns, redefined the data object, and bound new tags.The transaction now shows that it passes, but only a blank record is inserted to the database.If I deleted some of the bindings, the transaction will start to get data again. Looking in the error log file for the ODBC connector, an insert that gets data has a listing ofRTS: Column NAME, Value[0]= VALUE for the the bound values between the STORE_DATA and the STORE_DATA ACK.The inserts that have data have nothing in between the STORE_DATA and the STORE_DATA ACK. Any ideas on what can cause this phantom passed transaction with no data? Is there a soft upper-limit on the number of data points that can be bound? ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Fault diagnostics I have smc-flex connected to some submersible airators, and I am getting a fault : FQ ### Assistant: The Fault codes are explained in the User Manual, chapter 8. There are also the following technotes, about the fault you've asked for: Aid 44746Aid 32251 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Using MSG instruction over Ethernet Can I use MSG instruction to comunicate two controllers over dfferents subnets using WAN beetwen them? Using ENBT module in both? I've already configured over the same subnet. Thanks. ### Assistant: joscata, You should be able to do this as long as the Subnet Masks and IP Gateway addresses are set correctly on the ENBTs, you have a valid IP route (configured and happy gateways/routers/etc.) between the subnets, and no firewall blocking the IP port number(s) for CIP packets. I think the MSG default timeouts are probably sufficient, depending on your WAN speed, but you'll certainly want to monitor for .ER bits and handle retries, whatever. It would probably be a good idea to take your notebook, set up its ethernet port with an available IP address on one subnet, with mask/gateway set up, and make sure your can ping the ENBT on the other subnet. Do this from each end. If you can ping the ENBTs from opposite subnets but you can't get the ENBTs to talk using MSGs, check for firewall settings that block IP ports for CIP traffic. Might want to have some packet sniffing software handy to see what's happening on the wire, trap IP port numbers, etc. Most critical, though: the subnet mask and gateway IP settings need to be correct in the ENBTs' port setups -- if wrong, all further effort is for naught. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ It all falls back to somewhere on your network you need a router or a managed layer 3 switch with routing capabilities. Set the gateway address in your ENBT to the router (gateway) address and configure the router to re-route to the different subnet. It's not hard but it IS based on the mfg of router you'll be using. All are similiar...but different. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView 1000 and PanelBuilder32 Hello, I am working on a project using a AB 1769-L35E CompactLogix controller and was doing fine and had the machine running until I needed to switch computers. I've already restored everything to its rightful place; Firmware, communications and even the machine works now, but my only problem is I cannot get PanelBuilder32 to download the new stuff I had been working on during the roll over. I am using a DeviceNet card to communicate and the panel is not showing up in RSLINX. I've had help through the maintanence engineering department, but he out of town for the next couple of days. I wanted to see if I could do the fix myself. I believe there problem lies with DeviceNet. But I'm not sure. Whenever I go to File>Download, I cannot find the panel in my backplane. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.ThanksZach ### Assistant: Go online with RSNetworx for Devicenet, upload the SDN and go in the Properties - Scanlist Tab and check if you are in one of the following situations: 1. The PV terminal is shown as <removed from configuration>2. The PV terminal is shown correctly in the scanlist, but the Input and Output size are not defined, so that there aren't I/O mapped for the PV. In that case, from the online, remove the PV from the scanlist, apply and thus download the new configuration to the scanner.Go offline and then back online (or create a new Devicenet Configuration and go online... ) you should be able to see your PV appear after browsing... (check if it is also *visible* inside RSLinx...) - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView Plus Compact Does anyone have or know where I can find a comparison between a PanelView Plus and a PanelView Plus Compact? Thank You ### Assistant: I've not found a comparison table, anyway I suggest to take a look to Aid 63165, there are indicated limitations for application that has to be run in a PVP Compact. Also you may see the Product Profile , to understand their specifications. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy I have seen all that information before. I am interested in the trending, animation, etc.....Is that going to be the same as a Panelview Plus? The only limitations are those indicated in the suggested technote... all the remaining features could be used with no restrictions. Also I may add the Power Line is only 24Vdc on Compact version, and the terminal configurations are fixed and do not support communication modules. The 1000 touch terminal has a fixed display module and logic module that cannot be replaced. - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help Fuzzy n"}
{"text": "### Human: Module not Available in Module List I am using OB8I modules in my system. However, when creating the configuration in RSLogix, this model is not shown. I tried with the closest ones (OB8 and OB8EI), getting error (module fault) when I try going online. I have downloaded the eds file for this card and I have also registered it in RSNetWorx. I also copied the file into the eds folder. Now, I can see the module in RSNetWorx, but I still cannot see it in the list of modules, so I cannot enter it in my configuration. How can I update the module list so this card is shown? Why a standard Allen-Bradley card is not shown in the module list? ### Assistant: Maybe you need install AOP (Add-on profile) of the module.... I also copied the file into the eds folder.That's not enough to register a new EDS file. You download the file into a working folder (NOT the RSCommon/EDS folder !!) and use the RSLinx Classic Hardware Installation Tool to register the EDS file. DO NOT attempt to run the Hardware Installation Tool on a file that is already in the RSCommon/EDS folder. Which controller platform (ControlLogix ?), network (ControlNet ? EtherNet/IP ?) and I/O platform (Flex ? Point ?) are you using ? What version of RSLogix ? What version of RSLinx ? I'm guessing that you are using FLEX I/O, which has both a 1794-OB8 and -OB8EP. But I don't know about a 1794-OB8I, so it's just a guess. Welcome to the Forum; I hope we can help solve your problem. I think you're talking about 1756-OB8I ... its profile has been added in latest version 17 of RSLogix5000, so I guess you're using a previous version. In that case, you have to set it up as a Generic Module, and configure it as follows: Reference Aid 37055 (TechConnect Authorization required) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I moved the file to another folder, then I ran the RSLinx Hardware Installation Tool. The installation was successful and the file was copied into the RSCommonEDS folder by the application; however... it still doesn't show in the list!!! I am using Control Logix and RSLogix version 17 that I bought recently. The CPU is a 1756-L63. Communication is via ControlNet. All the I/O are 1756 (ControlLogix) series. Any other suggestions? Please help! I configured a generic module as per your instructions, but it still doesn't work. I get error 16#0030 unknown (actually, it doesn't show any faults; it just says module identity: mismtach). The module is not generating any signals. I have RSLogix version 17.01, which I bought recently. EDS file will not help you to have the module in the selection list of your RSLogix 5000 I/O configuration... this will just give you the possibility to *see* the module through RSLinx / RSNetworx.... :smileytongue: RSLogix 5000 will search for the I/O profiles, those are different matter.... I/O profile for that module isn'available until v17... just is strange you cannot see it as you *have* that version of the software... see the screenshot below, it is from V17.... ! :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic If you cannot see the same as me in the Selection List, maybe the Core I/O profiles have became corrupted... see the following technotes about the possibility to repair them: Aid 38271Aid 37828 Again, it must be there in V17 ... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I am using version 17, but the project was an old one created with version 16 (:smileysad:). After changing the controller version in my project, the card is displayed as shown. I also had to upgrade the firmware version in the CPU itself. Now it is running ok. Thank you! You're welcome ! I'm happy that works... :smileyhappy: Thanks also for your feedback. - fuzzy logic Hi :I think I have an issue like this one I´m working with a CompactLogix L32E and since I have 7 analog Inputs and want to keep spare inputs I was thinking on 1769-IF16C analog card but I can´t see in the select module pop-up , I have 17.00(CPR9 SR1) software version any ideas on this Tks Raymundo Walle Hi Raymundo, in this case a new AOP for these Analog Modules is available... See Aid 62566 Extract all files and install ithe AOP running MPSetup.exe Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Ok let me try with that AOP , somehow I lost the path to this thread , I was wondering I had never posted my question I let you know TksR Walle Ok it worked , thanks for your help Raymundo Walle n"}
{"text": "### Human: Mulitple Counts for 1769-HSC I have an application where I need to do some different things with a 1769-HSC. 1. I want to inhibit a counter based on a limit switch input (ZSH01).2. I want to keep tracks of multiple counts on the same channel. Based on the position of another limit switch (ZSH02), I want to keep track of either WASTE or PRODUCTION. I am interested in getting the best ideas to accomplish those goals. For item ### Assistant: wrnelson,Personally, I wouldn't use the load preset function due to your same concerns that the IO update may cause some 'flakiness' and/or missed counts during the transition. I would set up the counter as a ring counter, and add the counts since last scan to either the PRODUCTION or WASTE tags based on the ZSH02 switch. Attached is a simple method I have used in the past. I quickly wrote it for the emulator - the periodic task is simulating the HSC counting. Y'all let me know what you think - I know there are better brains out there than mine.... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Emonitor taking 5 minutes to start up I'm just testing an upgrade to emonitor 3.4, and the Emonitor splash screen is staying on for about 5 minutes before the application starts, the epm process is running and there is no load on the cpu etc. After about 5 minutes it opens ok, but I can't figure out what the delay is all about. Database connection is fine, and I can log into the database as both users (entek & econfig) instantly with no problems via SQL prompt. Has anyone else run into this? ### Assistant: I really don't know if this will apply to your version also, but I think you can give it a try.... :smileytongue: Aid 40831 - fuzzy logic Another suggestion could be to look into activation issues... try to take a look to the following thread: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Activations&message.id=569#M569 - fuzzy logic That could also appears when you have a lot views and plots opened and Save workspace on exit active. Emonitor is getting data from DB for all these views and plots during startup. That can take more than 5 minutes depending on number of plots opened and archive data in database. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLINX & EXCEL For data logging, we were using rsview32 and rslinx classic 2.52 etc. Data logging in excel was also thru rslinx classic. I read it somewhere that thru rsview me and rsclassic lite 2.53, we can do the data logging. Can we also transfer to excel ? thanks ragni ### Assistant: Answer ID 24166, Shows a step by step example. Even though this is done with a PLC5 and Data Highway I think you can work it out. Also see this thread. http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=PLC_SLC&message.id=595#M596 Smoke's answer is a direct response to your question about logging to Excel. I've used a more indirect approach - log to an Access database and embed a query into Excel to retrieve the data I want. If you are interested in this approach, check out tech note 29789, which gives step-by-step instructions. I use this because logging to Excel from RSView32 or SE is a no-no - while it can be done, it is not optimal. There is a 65,535 record limit, so you cannot log more data than that directly to Excel; also, RSView32 and SE cannot delete data from Excel. If you are not using RSView32 or SE and are just using DDE links to RSLinx and copying the data to other rows in Excel, then Smoke's suggestion is the best way to go. Well, you are right.What I want to know is that previously if you have to do data logging into excel, you have to use RSLinx Classic/OEM but not RSLinx Classic lite which is available free of cost. So now the version 2.53 / 2.54 of RSLinxLite allows logging for RSView ME / Excel allows or not ? thanks ragni Hello, Rslinx Classic lite is designed to upload / download PLc, Drive, HMI .....No DDE / OPC is enabled on this version. If you need DDE / OPC, you have to use the OEM version minimum. Regards. RSLinx will work with SE or ME without an RSLinx activation, but not with Excel. You would need at least RSLinx Single Node for that. Does that answer your question? n"}
{"text": "### Human: SCM-FLEX wiring to e-stop safe-off system I have SCM-FLEX soft starts that are wired as per typical start-stop control via DPI communications with a control relay wired to aux ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation question We have three techs that use RS500 and RS5000 on as many as seven differant pcs. Is it possible to buy three copies of each software package and three dongles and let each tech have their own licenses on the dongles? This would be a whole lot cheaper than 7 software packages. Thanks, Steve ### Assistant: Steve, yes it is possible. You have to copy all the .lic files of the activations on all PC, so that every tech will be able to activate the software on every PC using his dongle. I suggest to take a look to Aid 54553 and Aid 35251 for related infos. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF 40P Speed Profiling Greetings, I have a customer looking to use a PF40P and encoder feedback for speed profiling. I have limited knowledge of encoders, but have learned that there are known noise issues with AB Encoders and VFDs. What Encoder would be recommended for use for this application, I'm assuming something from an Encompass Partner. Have a great day. Cheers. ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Proximity sensor as a tachometer? anyone ever use a proximity sensor to calculate rpm in a plc? ### Assistant: We've used discrete sensors (both prox and photoelectric) to do that. What specifically are you looking for? basically calculate Rpm based on detecting the teeth on a chain sprocket with a prox. sensor. That's not a very good combination. Even with some of the smaller inductive proximity sensors, you might have detection problems. If the sensor barrel is parallel to the axis of rotation, the tooth curves away from the detection plain (so it can easily enter the chain). If the sensor barrel is perpendicular to the axis of rotation, you're detecting on the narrowest part of the tooth (tip instead of root). Even if you detect it reliably, at higher rotational speeds you might pass by the sensor before the PLC can register it. For instance, assume a #40 sprocket, 24 teeth (15 degrees per tooth/pocket cycle). The width of the tooth just above the root covers 8.38 degrees. This makes a decent target for a fiber optic through-beam photoelectic sensor (1mm diameter fiber tips). The tip of the tooth spans just 1.13 degrees. If you detect the tooth from the perpendicular orientation, the sensor has just 1.13 degrees out of 15 to detect the tooth. As speeds increase, you start to dip below repsonse time of sensor and PLC very quickly. Grab some real numbers: 60RPM sprocket speed, #40 sprocket, 24 teeth. 60rpm is 1 revolution per second, or 24 teeth per second, or .0417 seconds per tooth. If just 1.13 degrees out of 15 degrees triggers the sensor, the actual target material (tip of the tooth) is in front of the sensor for just .0031 seconds (3.1 milliseconds). Most Turck sensors report a 0.3 to 1.0 millisecond response time, but you're definitely going to have to worry about PLC scan times, and this is just at 60rpm. You've not shared any hard information (real sprocket parameters, rotational speed, how accurate, etc.) Depending on your application, you may not need to detect each tooth. For higher speeds you can detect a set screw instead (well, cap screw head so you'll have a bigger target), and count actual roations. Maybe you put 4 screws in the face of the sprocket (again, cap screws for larger target). Maybe you go the fiber optic sensor route to detect the teeth near the root. When we do this sort of application, we frequently make our own shutter wheels bolted to the sprocket to deal with these problems. Does this help, or were you asking about the ladder rungs dealing with calculating RPM based on prox. sensor input? Since you're only using it for RPM measurement, we typically use a small screw head or keyway on the shaft. In some applications, we've welded a small nub on the shaft for pick up. The detection resolution on a prox with gearheads or sprockets isn't sharp enough and the faster the gear turns, the more skewed your signal and you'll actually miss counts. We have even drilled and tapped a small hole IN a sprocket sticking out to the side for a shielded prox to pick up. With a sprocket you'll have to calculate the RPM, with only one pickup, it's very easy to calculate the RPM. Yes, Thanks that does help , but I was more interested in the logic of calculating the rpm. This flag was done with timer set to 1 second and the flag time was 100ms, the RPM should be 60 rpm minus the flag on time. The Flag is the sensor input? Where did get the values for the timer? Thanks! Many logic controllers include an onboard hardware counter or interrupt function that makes functions like RPM monitoring easier to perform. What controller family and hardware are you using ? cobra4202 wrote: The Flag is the sensor input? Where did get the values for the timer? Thanks!Yes the flag is the sensor input. 1 flag per rotation. The timmer value just needs to be longer than the time it takes to make 1 rotation. Ken, I would to learn about hardware counter in the CLX family, or are you talking about rack additions like high speed counters etc? Smoke, try this AOI in place of the timer. This AOI is a Rockwell AOI, and its quite good in that it eliminates the minor error you would get if this routine got called either side of when the RTC value rolled over). It will accurately give you to 10 microseconds the time since you last called it. What you can do is use this every time you see an edge of your sensor. Even better - create a small fast task with the code in. Make sure you I/P is fast (configured COS and a local I/P, not networked). You'll be amazed at the increase in accuracy this gives you. The program had no code? No code - thats right - don't want to spoil peoples fun. What it has is an AOI called DeltaT. Have a play and see what it does - its a good way of getting precisely a time interval (better than a timer). Here's some code for those who haven't seen what an AOI is before. Its 'as is' (not tested) and will need correcting for when there are long intervals with no activity, and also the 1st pulse after a power up (which can return duff values). If the filtering that's applied isn't for you (its a bit ghetto), then replace it with some filtering thats more to your liking if you want the value filtered in addition to the instantaneous value. Do you know what your max RPM will be? The switching frequency of the prox should be higher than the number of pulses the equipment is capable of producing. If you're using a 1 pulse per rev prox switch, then calculate the time between pulses (DT) and divide into 60. 60/DT=RPM. The more pulses per rev you have, the more accurate your measurement, of course. forgot to mention to stuff this code into a fast periodic task for better results. If you have a fast sensor, and a fast task (~2ms), then it will be good for a few thousand RPM. Code all assumes that there is one pulse per rev - redo the maths if its not the case. Thanks for all the feedback. I think I have some great Info to use now!:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Set time/date MicroLogix1400 I'm trying to set the time and date on a micrologix 1400 from the program. Does anyone know the correct syntax for this? ### Assistant: See Aid 38778 :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View SE Pop Up Displays Replace, Overlay, On Top Hi All, I am currently developing a factory talk view SE application. I am having difficulties making a small display pop up (appear) and disappear again within another larger display (background) when I would like it to. My application is to run on a touch screen. To make the popup appear I use the VBA: Application.ShowDisplay (SmallPopUp.gfx) This works fine but my problem is that when the user clicks (touches) outside the smaller display (on the background screen) the smaller display is automatically closed (or pushed to the back?). This is very annoying as I do not want the small window to close under these circumstances. (I use Me.Unload to unload it using VBA when I do want it unloaded which is when a button is pressed in the pop up display.) The background window has a 'replace' display type set. The pop up window has an 'overlay' display type set. I believe the background window is obtaining focus when it is clicked (touched) and then 'replacing' the pop up window. I am not too sure how to prevent this occurring. Does anybody have any suggestions??? Alternatively how should I use replace/overlay/on top settings correctly to display and hide pop-up windows in FT SE?? Any help here is greatly appreciated! :) ### Assistant: Why don't you set the pop-up display as On-Top ? Choose On Top to position the display in front of any other display (of overlay or replace types) that might be open at run time. Tip: At run time use the PullForward, PushBack, and SetFocus commands to cycle through multiple On Top screens. - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply FL. I have also read this suggestion from the help menu. :) When I use an 'On Top' display all works well except that I want to close (or hide) the pop up window from a button on the background window (as well as by a button on itself - which btw works). When I click on the button on the background window I run some VBA code and then want to close the popup using code along the lines of Application.UnloadDisplay (Pop-Up). This does not work - it simply gives the message 'Display(s) could not be closed and some stuff on the pop up display dissapears but it is still there. Note the problem above occurs when the display is set to an On Top variety - when its set to overlay all works well but I have the problem from post 1 (when i click somewhere else it unloads) - catch 22. Alternatively I could try closing using the abort command on a button press action in the hmi but I would like to run some VBA first and that would not allow that to happen. Such a simple task - how can it be so hard??? I have experimented with pullforward, pushback etc and find these difficult to get working at all. Any help????! Hi, well this is strange, because the VBA code you've prepared to close the pop-upApplication.UnloadDisplay (Pop-Up)works fine with the On-Top display... I've tested it... :smileysurprised: My guess is that you have something in the pop-up VBA code that keeps it on and doesn't let the code in the backward display work. You may easily check this creating a simple application with only the main display and the on-top popup, using VBA code on button's actions.... I mean you may create on main display a button with the VBA code to show the popup, and a button also in the main display with code to unload popup... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Rampage, in my experience, it is better to avoid that particular method to display and abort graphics. I've had various problems when I've tried to use Application.ShowDisplay or Me.Unload. I've had better results using ExecuteCommand Display MyGraphic and ExecuteCommand Abort MyGraphic. If you manage this properly, you could leave the pop-up screen as overlay instead of the On Top setting. Hope this helps Thanks everyone - all help here has been greatly appreciated. When I use the commands ExecuteCommand Display Display and ExecuteCommand Abort Display exclusively for all window manipulations I am now able to get it to work. n"}
{"text": "### Human: installation problems I am new to PLCs and so please pardon my ignorance. I am trying to configure a compactlogix system. The controller is L32E.I have the controller, the power supply and the end cap attached. At this time I do not have any I/O modules attached to the controller. As soon, as I apply AC power to the power supply, the controller starts up but the OK led on the controller is flashing ( Amber in color). I read in the manual, and it says the controller needs firmware update. I configured the serial drivers successfully, and I am trying to update the firmware. The problem is that the UPDATE FIRMWARE button is grayed out, and I can't use it. What am I doing wrong. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, sunnyvaleplc ### Assistant: Are you sure you've selected the processor in the Who Active window ? - fuzzy logic I very very strongly recommend that you load the firmware over Ethernet instead of serial. It is much faster and more reliable. Install the EDS files for the Ethernet daughtercard, the virtual backplane, and the controller so that you can configure the Ethernet port using RSLinx, or use the BOOTP/DHCP server to set the IP address. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factorytalk SE VBA Hi, I wanted to find out if there is a way to change the tag address of Logix 5000(direct tag) through vba script. In rsview 32, it can be done in vba by tag.address and tag.WriteConfiguration, but i need to know how to do this in Factorytalk SE. There must be some vba code to change the tags address in runtime using vba code. Please reply if anyone knows. ### Assistant: Sorry, the SE object model is vastly different than RSView32. No way to change a tag address using VBA. Wish I had better news. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Firmware update Comms Lost Hi, while updating a compactLogix L35E i lost comms to the controller. I am using a USB to Serial converter for comms. Know i can't get comms to the unit. How do i establish comms to the controller again...? ### Assistant: Hmmm.... try to remove the battery from the controller, power it down and wait some minutes, then reapply power...sometimes you can get it connect again. Try to connect via ethernet port, it is for sure the best way to do the firmware upgrade... Be aware not all USB to serial converters work fine with DF1 protocol. :smileysurprised: Also if you still have troubles, try to post the led status of the controller. Unfortunately there are serious possibility you'll need to send it to repair... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I have come to the conclusion you should never use a USB to RS232 convertor for anything that is critical or permanent. This comes from many frustrating hours. It seems the way buffering and interrupts are handled they are fundamentally incompatible. Keeping everything off of the USB network, especially mice, will help. You need to know something about the internal connections of USB inside your computer to determine this. Good luck in finding it. The larger the memory buffers are in the convertor the better off you will be. Good luck if you can find that in any specs. I now always get an an expansion card and PCMCIA cards when I had to have a serial port. Even these are getting hard to find as USB continues to dominate. I wonder when they will put a USB port on the front of a ControlLogix processor. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Indirect addressing to seal a bit-MLX1100 HelloI am trying to seal a bit using indirect addressing in a Micrologix 1100 like this: B3:[N7:0] B3:[N7:0]|------| | ### Assistant: I don't know what you mean by sealedYou can indirect address in that way but the rung will turn on unless toggled it with software.If you had 1 in N7:0 and toggled the bit the rung would be true. You could look in your data table and see B3:0/1 is on.If you changed N7:0 to a 2 the rung would go false, but B3:0/1 would still be on because you changed the bit to B3:0/2, and there was nothing to turn B3:0/1 off.Now your back to the same place with B3:0/2, it can't turn on unless it gets toggled.If you have an indirect address like B3:[N7:0] with a 1 in N7:0 it is the same thing as B3:0/1. HiBy seal, I mean to latch. Basically what I need is similar to radio button in programming, that is, I want to turn bit b3:0/1 on when N7:0=1. When N7:0=2, turn b3:0/1 off, turn b3:0/2 on etc. N7:0 can take up to 30 different values, that is why I am trying to use indirect addressing. To latch/unlatch each bit would be too long. The respective bit (from 1 to 30) is being switched on by a pushbutton in a panelview, as soon as the operator presses another button, the program should latch the corresponding bit and unlatch the previous bit. Thanks to comment. Cooltyphoon Hello, You have to be carrefull with the syntax.B3:0 with indirect address N7:0 -> B3:[N7:0] will not give you that kind of result : B3:0/1.It is a word indirection so the result will be B3:0, and it is the value of the word B3:0 that will change. if you want to make an indirection at the bit level, you need to write like this :B3:0/[N7:0]You will have to take care that the value of N7:0 is between 0 and 15. Regards. There is a much more simple way of keeping that bit on. Your issue would be turning off the B3:0/? bit that was on after changing the value of N7:0These two rungs are scan dependent. The CLR has to be above the indirect bit. The whole B3:0 word gets cleared then the indirect bit gets turned on. I couldn't use the same addresses as you they are used in the controller I am using. HelloCool!! I'll try that tomorrow and let you know. ThanksCooltyphoon I am glad you are interested in indirect addressing. I am sure in your travels you as all of us will use indirect. Though with AB 500 what you want to do will work great with 16 bits, and if you want to move it to another B register we will help you do that. I always try to remember that someone else needs to understand my code. You need in bead this thought train into your process. Sometimes its like you go into a trans, code flows and you do unreal things. 6 months later you can't follow your own code.(yes it works) BUT. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView Plus with Japanese Text - Part 2 I am using FactoryTalk ME 5.00.00 and a 2711P-T6C20D. I've got my language switch working beween Japanese and English. I've got two language switch buttons on each screen - a U.S. flag and a Japanese flag. If you push one of the flags twice in a row (i.e. - if you push the U.S. flag when English is already be displayed), the alarm window pops up. Is there a way to prevent this? I was thinking of using the visibility property on the language switch button so that the flag for the active language wouldn't be displayed, but I can't find a system tag to tie it to. Thanks. ### Assistant: The expression in the Animation - Visibility window (in the example over the english Language Switch button) could be :CurrentLanguage()=en-US...and the Expression true state as Invisible, so that the Language switch button will be visible only when that particular language is not already active. Obviously you've to change the language code (orange part above) using the RFC1766 name of the language you're working on.The RFC1766 names are in the User Manual App. F Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: NOT OR COMPLIMENT AN ALARM TRIGGER SO 1 TO 0 TRIGGERS AN ALARM. I found a little info on this, I am trying to use a bit array {::[PLC1]B10:0,L256} but also NOT the bits because my Program considers 0 the alarm. The info I found says I can only use a Value Trigger Type when I NOT the Trigger, So I would not be able to use the Array. But Through Testing I found I could look at one word at a time with the Bit Trigger Type and the Trigger NOTTED, So I haveNOT {::[PLC1]B10:0} as the Trigger and it seems to work fine for all 16 bits. I am curious if there is a way to use NOT {::[PLC1]B10:0,L256} as a Trigger, and if not, I'd like to ask AB Why not? ### Assistant: Simple answer is: It just wasn't designed for that functionality. Longer answer: You're trying to get around the fact that you're doing something to opposite of how it was designed to work (alarms trigger when the value is 0 instead of the standard 1). It wasn't a scenario our designers really took into consideration. Also, large scale value manipulation is considered to be the domain of the controller. Reversing the bits on 512 consecutive bytes is not something the ME application is well suited to handling, so the system doesn't even try to do it. Creating 256 trigger tags in the best work around short of fixing the design flaw in your program ladder logic. JHutch Well Everything I've been taught and everything that makes sence in the controller world is to program in a fail Safe Manner. The Flaw is not in my Ladder Logic, the Flaw is in Factory Talk, It should have been designed the other way around, I really don't understand why it isn't selectable which way the trigger works and why didn't your designers take it into consideration, I am asking that they do take it into consideration in the next release. Everything I program has been and will always be programmed in a fail safe way to coinside with wiring practices and I/O. Just because Factorytalk has some bugs and things missing in its design, don't put the blame on your integrators or your integrators will be suggesting other products that work better. Well, I've been programming/using HMIs and alarming for over 10 years. It is a pretty standard convention. 1 equals alarm state. 0 equals non-alarm state. Looking back, it's been that way for 25+ years in the HMIs I've supported. I really doubt they are going to change that behavior. JHutch Just because you have been doing it wrong for 10 years doesn't make it right. Very few people use 0 as an alarm condition. One of the reasons is that when the HMI/SCADA first starts the communications take time to read and every device shows up as in alarm initially. Any loss of communication would cause the same result. Having one tag that monitors communication and alarms after a short time is far more common. Just because everyone doesn't do things the same way it doesn't make them all wrong. J Hutch described what most people do. They are not all wrong - just different than your approach. You must remember this is a trigger of going from 1 to 0 not a trigger of being zero, I have not ever had that problem with alarms and communications with any recent products in the Last 5 years. You Guys are grasping at straws for a reason to not make this an option. Many other products out there will allow a trigger either way. Plus when your current Automation Job is being a moderator for Rockwell software Forum, I do not have much faith in your actual Automation Programming experience. Wow, I wish this was my only job. :) Forum moderator is such a small part of it. I'm also one of the guys you'd talk to if you call in for support on ME. Among a couple dozen other hats... My qualifications aside, you're right in that there are other products out there (we even sell a few of them) that will trigger on 1->0 transitions. (ME will even do it if you are triggering value triggers instead of bit triggers.) But, ME is not one of them on bit triggered alarming. And all the products it grew out of (PB32, PB1400e, PDS ...) did the bit triggers on a 1 in just the same way. Every once in a while someone will ask for this and it always gets shot down. I'm not the one to shoot them down, so I have sent this on, but I'm just saying, it'll probably get shot down again. But, who knows. Maybe this time it'll go through. Ultimately, though, there is a reason for it working this way; we've gone over it and at this point, I consider this thread done. JHutch One more item that should be mentioned.The fail safe you are talking about applies to hardware. Software is a different world. Last I heard in Boolean logic 1 = true, 0= false. Only 32 years experience. I may be wrong. Some interesting topics here for discussion. The fail safe thing is often brought up and applied into software. Here's my 20+ years worth. In Hardware, you have things like stop P/Bs etc that are wired to provide a signal when they are not pressed. The relay logic is such that a stop condition is when the signal is removed (P/B pressed). If there is a wire fault, the plant defaults to its fail safe mode and stops, rather than not being able to stop it with the P/B. The same is true for most hardwired devices that can fail in isolation due to a numer of reasons. Now applying this to data registers inside PLCs / PCs. Can a specific data register fail and not work in isolation. We're talking about memory registers here, not hard wired mechanical relays, E-Stops that can become disconnected / fail in isolation. What you have to consider is what to do if your PLC stops running, and you have this option with your output cards to holds state, default to zero / one etc.If your PLC hasn't crashed, you can pretty much detect every other fault conditions (connections / comms etc) and program the appropriate action. As for BOOLs / Alarms etc have to be a 1 in their safe state and 0 in their active state - there's no defined fail safe state for a memory register. They can fail and get trashed equally with zeros or ones by a run away program. All the PLC memory is retentative anyway - its the PLC prescan that goes through and looks for intructions (OTE's TONs) to reset to zero. If the battery is flakey such that the memory is corrupt, you are going to lose your program anyway. You may have to program real outputs to be failsafe, but internal memory - I agree with Buck and most the others I'm afraid. I understand what your saying, and I realize there is no fail safe in logic and/or memory, it is what it is. The reason I program in a fail safe manner is so it is less confusing to the real world of fail safe wiring, less conversions and makes for a more organized and efficient program. You guys can program anyway you like, frankly I think its wrong to not program in a fail safe manner. I work with Automation guys with 40+ years experience, and they are idiots, but they do agree with me in the fail safe programming. So your years of experience means nothing to me. If your an idiot now, you've always been an idiot. All I am asking is for the option to display Alarms in the PanelView Plus with a transition from 1 to 0. I don't want a debate on programming theories Good luck with that n"}
{"text": "### Human: Reading plc5/40 s-registers using PV1500Plus I need to know the proper notation for RSViewME to read individual bits out of the S-register of a plc5/40e. The S-register shows up as S2 when browsing for tags, and in fact allows me to read in the entire integer (S2:1, for example). However, when I specify a bit-level value (S2:1.1) and put the application into SIM mode, I get an error message that the tag is no longer available. What am I typing in wrong here? Thanks-- ### Assistant: Correct syntax to select Direct Tag address to Bit Level on PLC-5 would be: S2:1/1 See also Aid 28045... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compactlogix plc with Eurotherm 6100e Chart Recorder HI all, I have a project on the go using a Compactlogix plc coupled via Ethernet port to a Eurotherm 6100e paperless chart recorder. I want to send 6 temperature values from the plc to the chart recorder for continuous logging and display. Reading the 6100e manual, I see it uses Modbus protocol and I can use function codes 06 or 16 to send one word or several words at a time. I have assembled the data I need to send in some contiguous files, with the temperatures as 16-bit integers (0.1 degree resolution). In RSLogix5000, I have the MSG instruction which can be configured for 'generic CIP' and I assume that is what I should be using. However, it asks me to define things like 'service code, class, instance, attribute' as hex values. Also, I assume that somewhere I should be telling it the IP address of the recorder so it knows where to send its data. I am no expert with this stuff and was wondering if anyone has set up one of these recorders with an AB plc and can point me in the right direction. ### Assistant: Modbus TCP/IP protocol isn't supported natively on the Ethernet port of a Compactlogix... your device should support Ethernet/IP protocol to connect to it directly... For this application I may suggest you instead to take a look to a Prosoft module, MVI69-MNET The MVI69-MNET module is a single slot solution that provides a powerful connection between Rockwell Automation's CompactLogix processor and Modbus TCP/IP network applications. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Corrupted Processor Fault - RSLogix Aloha, Recent turn of events:Wrote up some code using RSLogix 7.0 (with my desktop), transfered to my laptop which happen to be running RSLogix 8. 10. Downloaded code into a 1747-L553C 5/05 CPU - 64k Mem OS501 Series C FRN 10 and later processor. Able to run, edit and do all things with the laptop. However, when trying to access with desktop using RSLogix 7.0, experience a Processor Corrupt pop up window. I have used this same set up for months with other processors. Example: 1747-L553B/C 5/05 CPU-64K Mem OS501 Series C FRN 3-9. My question is: Is this related to the fact that the error is attributed to the newer version of the processor with a different firmware? Or.......Is this more related to producing code with 1 version of RSLogix and then downloading it with a different version? We have several people in the company that write code for SLC processors and I am wondering if we will have to update the version for the people writing code? I was thinking it'd be backward compatible as long as we were staying with same series of processors. Thanks in advance, looking forward to some guidance regarding this peculiar behavior. Aloha,g ### Assistant: Try to see if Aid 37823 could help.... technote has been written for v7.10, just consider v7.10 and above when you read it... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Drive speed, Devicenet Hi, I have a PowerFlex 700 connected in Devicenet, I want to change the speed from a PV+ who is connected to a compactlogix L35E (through ETH)... I know how to program the parameters of start-stop, faults, active and other easy conditions in the scanner module using RSLogix 5000 and RSNetworks (those things are working right now), but How could I send speed to a PF through Devicenet?.... what is the parameter of speed I need to set in the Dnet scanner module?.... this speed is something I could change in any moment (from 0 to 60)..... Thanks for your time... ### Assistant: You may find informations and examples in the 20-COMM-D User Manual Anyway, unless you've modified settings, by default you have 4 bytes of output, first two are for Logic Command, remaining two bytes are for the Reference Speed. Just maybe you have all four bytes in the same DINT inside CMX, so you have to use some logic there to separate and use the image correctly ( like BTD or simply a COP moving the output image from scanner to an INT array - like in the example of the User Manual page 5-10) See also Aid 43829 to understand the Reference scaling.... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy, I saw the answer ID in the knowledgebase,... I saw the example, it looks good, but I think the answer of how many Hz does the motor receive via Devicenet has to be 130Hz, not 1Hz (because you divide 32767 by 130, so I don't know were the 1Hz come from).... MATV, dividing the max decimal value you may enter in that Reference word (that is 32767) by the maximum frequency you have configured for your drive (i.e 130 Hz) you will obtain the decimal value you've to enter to obtain the unit of your frequency range. 32767 / 130 = 252 So that entering for reference: 252 = 1 Hz2520 = 10 Hz25200 = 100 Hz32767 = 130 Hz :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Improper configuration of a 1746-IB16 (Sink) Input card Could someone please elaborate on the possible consequences of improperly configuring this I/O card. I have found a machine process within our facility which has 4 devices on this card which are improperly configured. 3 of these devices are parker cylinder proximity switches in an NPN/sink configuration. I understand that according to AB Answer ID ### Assistant: I don't know if that configuration is the cause of your issue, anyway such this connection, although is working, is not recommended... As you have all NPN signals, consider the possibility to use a 1746-IV16 module instead... this will *cleanup* wiring and doubts...:smileywink: - fuzzy logic That's just it. This is a 16 port card... I apologize, I guess I was a bit misleading having identified only the four mis-configured devices. I have sourcing devices on the card as well. I've already reconfigured the set of N.O. contacts by removing the ground, replacing it with a B+, switching to the available N.C. contacts of the same switch, and eliminated the pull-up resistor. This makes more sense to me than yanking a floating/pulled-up signal low by grounding the input. The issue of the three remaining 'NPN / Sink' type devices on a Sink card still needs to be addressed. The fact that the configuration is a direct contradiction of Allen Bradley answer ID# 18726 isn't enough to convince some administrative *&^%$^%@#s that it's wrong as long as it's working. As far as I'm concerned, as long as this machine is experiencing intermittent issues I question if it is in fact actually working... Best practices be damned, I guess what I'm looking for is someone that remembers their basic electronics, (After 30 years I certainly don't) to tell me it's wrong and why. I'm thinking along the line of internal circuit impedance and dielectric strengths... In the meantime, I just noticed that reference to another doc = G18865. I'm going after that. Thanks for your reply! If you want to convert your NPN inputs to PNP go ahead and wire a relay or better yet some companies sell inverters from NPN to PNP. We tend to use inverters if we don't have proper sensor at the time of failure. We've ordered the correct sensors but I'll look into the inverters for future reference. Thanks! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Why RSView32 So I need some learning. I have been doind SPC, SCADA and data acuation for yesrs. I have never used a RSView32. what/why do we need one? I have made some bad responses not realzing that RSView32 is a different animal. Tell me why. ### Assistant: Hi Smoke, Off the top of my head, here are some reasons to use RSView32 instead of PanelView: 1. You want to run the application on a computer2. You need to talk to non-Rockwell controllers using an OPC server3. You need more sophisticated datalogging than PanelView offers4. You want the ability to host ActiveX controls5. You would like to use VBA as part of your application6. You need more sophisticated alarming - like the ability to highlight an alarm and execute a series of commands or display a graphic with details on that alarm. There are probably other reasons, but those are the ones I think of quickly. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Help - Installed Revs 10 everything running OK except Studio Can anybody help me?I've installed Revs 10, everything runs OK except Factorytalk View Studio ME/SE.In either program, as soon as I open a graphic the progran crashes with the annoying windows message this program has encountered a problem and will now be closed etc, etc.ThanksJohn ### Assistant: Which is the OS of your PC ? :smileysurprised:Just be aware Windows Vista and Win XP sp3 are not supported OSs for version 5.0 of FactoryTalk View. :smileysad:In that case, consider the possibility to upgrade to version 5.10 Anyway, try the following: Test 1. Install latest patch roll-up Test 2. Try to repair installation of FactoryTalk Services Platform through Windows Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs If you still have problems, try to see if the following is applicable: When you installed FT View Studio 5.0, you have to uninstall RSView Studio 4.00 from the install CD of FT View 5.0. Uninstalling 4.00 from add/remove program will cause that problem.To recover from that, remove RSLinx enterprise, RSView Studio and Factory Talk Automation Platform FROM THE CD, option #1.Reinstall the software after that.Let me know the results.... - fuzzy logic Hi fuzzy : do you think this patch can help me? I have a Dcomm problem from the event viewer the SE displayed HMI server service unavailableor something like that and now is displaying Failed to open HMI project 1c3f308 I have uninstall and reinstall several times from the DVD´s my version is 5.00.00 CPR9 only with FTView SE; ME runs fine, the thing is I have talked to Tech support from chat support ,they gave me several tech notes to fix this but it didn´t work, and at the End they told me I need to reinstall operation system which is XP Profesional SP2 ? just want to avoid the OS reinstall regards R Walle Hi Raymundo, well for sure installing the patch could be a try... and usually it is a good thing to do ! Then you may consider the possibility to upgrade to 5.10 version... maybe the new install will solve. Do you have this problem in every View SE project or only that one ? I think Tech Support have already given you the indications that could help, the complete reinstall of the OS is the last to ensure all will start from the scratch, but obviously many times isn't so painless...:smileysurprised: I'm afraid to not be able to help too much on this.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Long ago, I had some similar error messages with a different hex code each time. I found that compressing or encrypting the HMI Projects folder caused this. Other than that, I would make sure that none of the Rockwell services, especially the HMI server service, are disabled. These may be longshots, but are quick to check and easier than reinstalling the O/S. I tried the patch install and it worked . . .partially, the FTView Studio SE could open but then when I started to work and try to see Tags, a warning pop up telling me the tag database is damaged , that was for an existing project and also for new one I created to test the SE, so I took the hardest way , went to my IT dept and ask them for reinstall OS, so you guys think next time better I use the newest version from RS site instead of REVS 9 DVD ? thank and regards Raymundo Walle Raymundo, my suggestion is to install the latest 5.10 version when you'll have the OS reinstalled... Hope you will have more luck with it ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I installed 5.1 ver and its runing fine both ME and SE, Now I have several aplications runing old version clients runing on several PC´s will I be capable to upload this aplications from its original version, add elements like push buttons, animations and then again develop a runtime in that old version or do I need to upgrade entire project and run it on newer version ??? You may do both, just it depends on what you've modified... I mean, if you like to take advantage from some new features of v5.10, then you will not be able to create a runtime file for earlier version...you'll get an error like: Anyway, if you open an old project with the new 5.10 version, it will be converted so that it cannot be opened with previous version of View Studio; after modified you could create the runtime for earlier version:Click on Create Runtime Application.Change version by clicking the Save As Type pull down selector to the desired release.- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Word Triggers With Bit Acknowledgement I'm using DINT arrays for my alarms in a ControLogix processor. I set my alarm triggers to each DINT with the alarm type set to BIT. This gives me the ability to generate a separate alarm message for each bit. But when you acknowledge the alarm, instead of setting a corresponding bit in the ack word I get a value representing which bit is being acked. Why can't I just get the correct bit in the ack DINT set as opposed to a value? I can see why setting a value would make sense if I was using a value based trigger. i've written an Add-On Instruction to set the corresponding bit so that I know which alarm is acknowledged, but it would be nice if I didn't need the extra code. (or the explaining to people why I need the extra code). Ack All would also be nice to then set the bits of all acknowledged alarms since I use a separate acknowledge DINT for each trigger DINT so I can track which alarms have been acked. Yeah I know, I'm duplicating the funcionality of the HMI in the PLC code, but That's the way, uh huh uh huh I like it. Troy ### Assistant: Well, one reason I can think of for doing it this way is less memory usage and more efficient comms bandwidth. Say, for instance, you have 256 (8 DINTs worth) of alarm trigger bits. You can you ONE alarm trigger to trigger all those (and have much better performance than 8 alarm triggers). Now, having the alarm ack come back as a single integer value makes a LOT of sense. Instead of 8 DINTs worth of alarm ack bits, you can have a 16bit INT hold the ack value. Plus, since you can only ack one alarm at a time (or ack all, which is a special value), there is no reason to have to space the acks out to individual bits. Instead of having your ladder logic look at bit X to handle an alarm ack, have it just look at the integer directly. If INT = X, then Go do XYZ. JHutch Wow, I guess I totally missed something. I thought that you had to define each DINT as a separate trigger. So I if I have an array of DINTs I don't need to set each one separately as a trigger. Since I have an array of DINTs that I am using for the alarms, can I use bit 45 as a trigger and the system will know to use the 2nd word of the DINT array without having to directly reference it? I don't see anything in the on-line help that says what the maximum bit value for the trigger is, so I assumed it was just 32. This could help with another problem that I have where I don't always see the PV+ setting each separate trigger's ack word. I'll play with this a bit. Thanks From ViewME User Manual, page 9-12: The Bit trigger type Use the Bit trigger type to generate multiple simultaneous alarm messages. You can assign an array tag (consisting of up to 1,024 bits) to the trigger connection. Each bit in the array whose value changes from 0 to 1 triggers an alarm :smileywink: - fuzzy logic So there IS a User's Manual. I don't have to just rely on the online help. The User's Manual says an array of DINTs is acceptable as a bit triggered alarm tag, but I can not get my little test ap to work with any bit over bit 32. I've tried an array of DINTs within my alarm UDT, I've created a separate array, I've tried creating discrete DINTS. Is there a sample ap that uses more than 32 alarm bits coming from DINTs? I suppose I can easily change to a bit array but my project already has the alarm DINTs created and used. See Aid 24680... Basically, in order to use more then 32 messages with one trigger tag (trigger value more then 32 ) - the trigger tag address must contain the length of this DINT elements in array , like {[CLXDF1]dint[0],L2} , where L2 is the lengh of tag dint that can be used for messages with the trigger value from 1 - 64 in this case . - fuzzy logic Thanks for that link. The original document wasn't much help, but the Word document that was attached to that gave examples of what would work and what wouldn't. I've been able to get the alarm setup working with 1 tag for each of the alarm arrays that I have. Looks good. I think I have to give the credit for solving this to JHatch, but I'll be sure to give you Kudos for your suggestion. do you have any code examples of using the ack data connection, I mean code in the PLC to best use the integer return number to for example shut off a horn or beacon but allow it to signal again on a new alarm, is there a function that would best take advantage of this feature. That exact situation is what started me on this thread. I needed to know which alarms were acknowledged and which weren't. I like what I've developed, but I think an easier way would have been to just one shot any and all alarms to latch on a horn. Any value other than 0 in the ack word would then indicate an acknowledgement and can turn the horn off. n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF400 - F3 Power Loss I am currently using a PowerFlex 400 VFD (part number: 22C-D038A103 – 480VAC, 25HP). I am sometimes receiving Fault Code F3, Power Loss (DC bus voltage remained below 85% of nominal). Since the action specifies to “monitor the incoming AC line for low voltage or line power interruption” is there any documentation that quantifies low voltage? ### Assistant: Here from the User Manual - page A-3 F3 - Power Loss - FRN 5.03 and earlier only:The DC bus voltage fell below undervoltage level within 200 ms of a start command, DC bus ripple voltage is excessive, or an input phase loss has been detected. Power Loss Fault (F3) occurs if an undervoltage condition is present on drive power up, or if there is excessive DC bus ripple (for example a missing input phase) whilst the drive is running. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ActiveX problem I have a computer with both FT View SE 5.0 and VB6 installed. From that computer I added a Slider Control (Microsoft Slider Control 6.0 (SP4)) to a screen. On another computer within the same FT network the control looks fine in View but shows up as diagonal lines in Studio. Is there a way around this or is this just the way FT Studio SE works? I've had no trouble with this same situation within other applications. ### Assistant: Could it be that the activex is not installed/registered correctly on the other computer where you experience the problem? Do you get any errors in the diagnostic list? The ActiveX is installed and registered correctly. It works fine in an FTView Client. It also works fine in another HMI software in that software's equivalents to both Client and Studio. The only problem is that the control is greyed out in FT View Studio. There are no errors in the Diagnostic Viewer. It seems that FT View Studio might be checking the license for the control. (The other HMI software only checks the license when the control is added) Is there any way around this in FT View Studio? My biggest concern is that using certain controls will render the screen uneditable by the customer. Hi TavMaster-T, did you already see technote 41714 and then 31206 ? - fuzzy logic TavMaster, you get those lines if an ActiveX installed on the current computer (the one where you are viewing the graphic containing the ActiveX control) is OLDER than the computer where you originally developed the ActiveX. So if I have a control installed on my Studio development computer that is Rev 2.0, and if I open that graphic on a client computer that has Rev 1.0, you will see these hash marks. FYI, the file containing the MS Slider Control 6.0 (SP4) is MSCOMCTL.OCX, which should probably be in C:WindowsSystem32. You may be able to copy this file from the development computer to this client and manually update it by overwriting the original and use the REGSVR32 command to register it. Thanks for the feedback, guys, but you are missing the actual issue. The ActiveX is properly registered and working fine in the FT View SE Client. I copied it and registered it a while back. The issue is that it shows as a grey box in FT View SE Studio. Why does a control that works in Client show as a grey box in Studio? Answer ID 5704 has a registry fix to allow editing a screen with ActiveX problems. I have yet to try it out, but it's still just a workaround and doesn't solve the actual ActiveX issue in Studio. I'm still hoping there's a better solution. Here's a more detailed description of the scenario:1) The control displays and works normally in both the design mode and Client mode of another HMI software that is installed on the same computer.2) If I try to add the control from the client I get this message: Failed ot create control. License information for this component was not found.3) The other HMI Software gives a similar message if I try to add the control to a graphic screen.4) The control was added from another computer that has other software (VB6) installed that provides a design license for the control. Any ideas? Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks,TavMaster-T TavMaster, some ActiveX controls, like some software products from our favorite automation company, require licensing. I tried inserting this control on my development station and I get the same error: Failed to create control. License information for this component was not found. I know for a fact that some MS ActiveX controls will work in VB but not in other containers. The idea is that you buy VB, then you can re-distribute those MS ActiveX controls that require licenses as part of your VB application. I didn't think that Rockwell had a tech note on this, but I ran across tech note 42597. It seems a bit lacking in details. Not sure, but you might also try going back to the computer that had VB installed on it and add the MS Slider control to a blank project. Then compile and use the Deploment Wizard to create an install for you. Install that on the computer with the hash marks and see if that clears things up. What I am not sure about is whether this installation will license the control for applications other than the VB program, but it is worth a try if the tech note fails. I was using that technote (42597) sometimes at customer's sites and it has solved similar problems (see also this thread) There are also other technotes those explain the license issue... Aid 5754 and Aid 49841 - fuzzy logic The .srg file as described in technote 42597 fixed the issue. Thanks Fuzzy and JK for all the help! (I still wonder why FT View Studio does a license check on controls that are already added to the graphic when I've seen other applications that don't.) You're welcome TavMaster-T, I'm happy that works ! :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: proplem in panel builder software hi i installed (panel builder software version 5.15) successfully on my computer and i have enough memory to open applications but when i open any application i get this error( temp directory path is too long max 25 char) plz give help about this error thank u ### Assistant: Hi, it seems to be something related to a Windows security patch that changes the usage of the Environment Variables... a workaround could be to change the user TEMP environment variable to something shorter, like c:WinntTemp (Control Panel - System - Advanced Tab - Environment Variables) Reference Aid 29963 - fuzzy logic oooooh thank u . u r great this already solve my problem but is that will affect other programs on my windows operating system when change this enviroment variable In this case I think you should not have problems, as this is only used to specify the location where the temporary files should reside... See here.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: problem on firmware update pv1400e i have panel view terminal pv1400 e suddenly i have error that firmware corrupted and i have to update it i updated it through serial firmware upgrade utility and every thing is ok and i waited for its progress on my host computer till it finshed successfully but after the terminal was reset it go to previous state that firmware is corrupted again plz give help is firmware updated is useful in this case? i try it more but no use thank u ### Assistant: There is a suggested procedure to reload firmware in a corrupted PVe terminal inside Aid 34695 (TechConnect Authorization required to access) - fuzzy logic sorry sir i cant get what u mean i cant also log in the link u give to me is that problem need connect the sales representative? You have to have a TechConnect contract to access some of the Technotes in the Knowledgebase and some of the Boards of this Forum. See this Thread and this Technote for further infos.... If you want, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, I will send you back some docs about your request... - fuzzy logic thank u i hope u can help me really in this proplem your care will be highly appreciated my email: ddsf2007@hotmail.com E-mail just sent. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Jet 2 SE Hello, I am looking for some help. I have a leibinger jet 2 SE sitting here. I need help on the whole thing from port set-up (L61s) to what to send to the printer.I dont have to mess with fonts or anything just print a string from the CLX on command. I think you have to open and close something too? Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: It seems to me that printer has a serial RS-232 port available, thus you may configure the CLX serial port as ASCII and connect it to the printer. I've got some help from Aid 48429 to test ASCII operation on CLX's serial port. You may also search the KB for AWT keyword, it produces many results where you may find some examples to use ASCII instructions, i.e. Aid 32735. - fuzzy logic I have looked at those aids already. I was specifically looking for someone that knows the HEX codes I need to send to the printer, and how to get the string to it, or if I need to convert the string to HEX. As well as port config. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlView 4.0 Reports Hello all I'm currently working on a project which requires me to convert an an old SCADA application designed using ControlView 4.0 to RSView32 so far there have been no problems. However, there are a number of reports designed with an add on module to ControlView. In my project folder I have the report templates but no way of viewing them so I can convert them. These files have a .RPT extension. Does anyone know I way I can view these report templates? ### Assistant: As these reports were created with an option module (ControlView Reporting module - 6190-REP) my guess is that it is not possible to automatically convert it.... :smileysad: I think you have to open it with the ControlView option to see how it is configured, then you may try to recreate something similar using the RSView32 Reporting utility, available with some instructions in the technote 9239 (TechConnect Authorization required to access). Attached the Manual for the ControlView Report option.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex DC, Upload to PC How can I Upload drive Parameters/Configuration to my PC, I have available (RS Logix 5000, Drive executive lite, RS Linx classic lite). I have no serial port on PC, I'm using USB to Serial adaptor and null modem adaptor to communicate with Controller(LOGIX 5563). There are 2 PowerFlex DC drives connected to Controlnet module(1756-CNB) on controller. Ethernet through ControlNet?DPI directly to drive? Have no cable availableThrough backplane of controller via serial port? already connected ### Assistant: You may use the RSLogix5000, through the feature named Premier Drive Integration. When you're connected online to the Controller, you may go to the Controlnet PF DC and communicate with the drive. Involved in this are the versions of RSLogix 5000, PF DC AOP, etc... If you still cannot realize it, please post your RSLogix 5000 software, Drive Executive and RSLinx installed software versions and somebody will give other suggestions. - fuzzy logic I am using RSlogix version 16 and this window did not come up when clicked on a drive? Hmmm.... maybe there is something wrong with the software installation, it would be useful to see some screenshots from your project to better understand how to guide you.... just to avoid starting to suggest to reinstall things or add packets... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Easiest method is to use Drive Executive Lite. Open the program. Once loaded click on File... Connect.... This opens an RSLinx window.Drill through to the backplane from the controller.Drill down from the CNB module the drives are connected to.Click on the node of the drive you want to get the parametres from. These may show up as question marks if the EDS files for the drives are not present but keep going. The software may have to create a database file which will take some time. Have make cup of tea.Once connected go File.. Save As.. Give the file a name and the parameters are uploaded. fuzzy, I am still interested in figuring out your method, Maybe during loading software I left something blank, Unfortunately my laptop has no internet connection for me to simply post screenshots, But I will work on it... The drive executive method I tried earlier on. and was able to upload parameters. Thanks all BBMWB, I'm pretty sure you need to install the latest Add on Profiles (AOP's) to get the feature in RSLogix5000, you can download AOP's from the Rockwell website, see Knowledgebase ID 44295. The feature in RSLogix5000 works but I have found it to be frustratingly slow. BBMWB, there is an interesting document that explains feature and benefits to use the Integrated Drive inside RS5000, I think you may find this useful... Aid 56411 ...and if you still have problems to see what indicated in my first technote inside RS5000, please post again... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: details market range of copper and usd/jpy. ### Assistant: This looks to be a spam message. If this one is a real question, appropriate to this forum, please expand it out. If I don't see any activity on this, I'll remove the thread in a few days. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: DF1 - Protocol Command Set im using a 5/03 processor. im bulding a VB interface to sync PLC clock with PC once a week, to set bit (ex: B3:0/1) read/write value to N7 files (ex: N7:0) I want to buit my own VB object driver, this is all going through DF1 protocal through RS-232 comm. ***** i looking for VB6 code example and documentation on how to built the DF1 protocol, in order for me to create my VB6 code ### Assistant: A lot of informations here: http://forums.mrplc.com/index.php?showtopic=11323 Take also a look to the DF1 protocol User Manual and tecnote 27504 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-ANCR15 Where to find 1794-ANCR15 instruction manual? ### Assistant: Here the Installation Instructions. - fuzzy logic Informations also here: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/cnet-um001_-en-p.pdf - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV Plus showing memory full messages for the past one month panelview plus is running in good condition communicated with compact logix....but now suddenly its showing memory is full wats the problem.....? by, Sara. ### Assistant: Sara, you may try to delete unneeded mer, log and font files, by accessing Terminal Settings from the PanelView Plus configuration screen. Try to take a look to the instructions in Aid 25003...also this thread could give you some useful infos.... P.S. please note I've posted updated infos about datalog and PV component... follow the link below: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=HMI&message.id=1401#M1401 I think you may close that thread as solved... :smileywink: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PANELVIEW WHATS THE USE OF SD CARD IN PVC,IS DATA LOGGING IS POSSIBLE IN PVC,IF SO REPLY ME THE WAY OF LOGGING ### Assistant: Data Logging isn't supported on Panelview Component...:smileysad: SD card can be used, for example, to store and thus transfer Application files, Images, Recipes, Alarm Logs, fonts, and to Upgrade PVc firmware.SD slot is available only for C600 and C1000 models. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Update: Found some informations regarding new features coming with next version of PVc firmware 1.20.... Data Logging will be available through trending, and will use USB or SD card to log. I'll post here again when the firmware will be available. - fuzzy logic And, as always, features subject to change until released. :) JHutch Just to inform you the new firmware 1.20 has been released ! :smileyhappy: What’s New in Version 01.20: Datalogging on USB/SD through trending Firefox 3.0 support on DesignTime Touch indication supported on entry devices Replacing Screen-saver image through file transfer wizard from Web configuration Performance improvement on USB RNDIS connection All the infos and the downloads at the following links: http://www.ab.com/eoi/graphicterminals/downloads.htmlAid 64430 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 700 F20 We are using a Powerflex700 and keep getting a powertorque prv F20 alarm that doesn't seem to be listed in the manual - Anyone with any ideas would be appreciated. ### Assistant: It *is* listed in the User Manual, page 4-8 TorqPrv Spd Band - F20 Difference between [Commanded Speed] and [Encoder Speed] has exceeded the level set in [Spd Dev Band] for a time period greater than [Spd Band Integrat]. Actions: 1. Check wiring between drive and motor. 2. Check release of mechanical brake. - fuzzy logic I apologise - it is in the manual. Parameter 600 is currently set to 100011 Does this mean it is already disabled (the first 1 on the left) or am I reading it wrong?? Many thanks, Mike Yes, you're correct. Just a question: which is the moment in your cycle when do you get this error ? I mean during lifting, lowering or when it should be stopped ? Is there a mechanical brake ? Please add more infos, Torque prove param. settings etc. so that me or other users could help you on your issue.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic All sorted! It involved a German forgetting to put inthe right parameters before it left the factory. Thanks for your help. Mike n"}
{"text": "### Human: logging messages from excel i wuld like to be able to log messages direcly from an excel worksheet to a page in me. this way i dont have to go back and chane the page everytime someone wants new info displayed.....any ideas? ### Assistant: Dana,the short answer is there is no object in ME that can read data from Excel. The only way that occurs to me is to have VBA code in your Excel spreadsheet write data to your controller (using RSLinx Classic). Then you could read those tags in ME. For instructions on how to use DDE to write values from VBA to RSLinx, see the RSLinx help file. Search on the phrase Microsoft Excel DDE via VBA. There are also several tech notes, including 4677. Hope this answers the question. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to use EQU to compare strings? What format do you use to compare a string tag to a constant string in RSLogix? I keep getting an error for reference tag not found when I use a constant string value in my EQU block. ### Assistant: Are you using RSLogix 5000 ? Are you using two String type tags in your EQU sources ? May you please post a screenshot of your instruction ? The more infos you post the more help you may expect to receive... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I am using RSLogix 5000. I just loaded a tag with my constant string value that I wanted to compare. So it worked that way. Shaylaw, Yes, RSLogix 5000 does not support literal string constants. Any time you want an instruction to act on a string, you must use a STRING tag. Remember that if you are dealing with very short (or very long) strings, you can add your own string type(s) with a maximum length other than 82 characters. In the Controller Organizer, scroll down to Data Types, right-click on Strings and select New String Type.... You can create a string type with a maximum length of from 1 to 65535 characters. I've used shorter ones (say, 8 characters) quite a bit so I don't use up 80+ bytes to store a units-of-measure thing like ft, sec, SCFM, etc. Just more info for better apps...Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1305 how do I program a 1305 to run on power up? I have set this parameter to enable - what else needs to be changed? ### Assistant: This applies only when there is a maintained input to the start and stop inputs. Refer to User Manual, Chapter 2, Figure 2.7 through Figure 2.10. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic I would like the unit to start running when power is applied Ok, it is clear to me.... :smileywink: This feature only works if the Start input is ON and also the Stop input in ON... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks, I did a little research and figured that out. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML1100 with HSC Dear all, I had face a problem and now I am going to program the Micrologix 1763-L16BWA with 4 high speed input. However, I can't call the HSC function in the RSLogix 500 V8.10.00 (CPR9). Should I had to upgrade some EDS file or upgrade my Micrologix1100 firmware??:smileymad: Thanks for any kindly assistance in advance. Best Rgds.,Man ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 17447 and see if it helps.... Just a note... you don't need to use the HSC instruction to obtain what you need (it is not available in this controller), you have to use the HSC Function File.... Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic See also the Reference Manual, Chapter 5, it could help you ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic First of all, thanks for your solution. However, the HSC function is for different mode application from 0-7. In my case, I had to connect 4 nos. pulse generative device to input from I1:0.0/0 to I1:0.0/3, so any suggestion in PLC ladder programming which I can complete the task with my onhand ML1100?? Without using the HSC function??:smileysad: Can I just use the CTU function to measure the pulse signal?? From the RSLogix500 help file, it state that:The ability of the counter to detect false-to-true transitions depends on the speed (frequency) of the incoming signal. The on and off duration of an incoming signal must not be faster than the scan time.:smileytongue: However, I had never try this before and would you please advise the possibility?? BTW 2 kind of devices will generated pulse at 32/100ms pulse width and 20ms pulse width respectively. Maybe I had to check the scan rate of ML1100. Thanks for your kindly assistance!!:smileyhappy: Thanks to fuzzy logic, I think I figure somthing. Please comment on what I conclude and see if it works on my application?? I look into the pulse generative devices manual, it state that there pulse width is:Device 1: maximum 20ms andDevice 2: 32ms only Then I just need to size my PLC porgram and make it run on speed faster than the 32ms(which is the faster pulse on my system) and may works in my application!!! Please comment on the above concluded and see if I am correct ornot?? Best Rgds.,Man Hi, my suggestion is to use a STI (timed interrupt) so that you may avoid the scan problem; you will process the interrupt let say every 10 - 15 ms (maybe you need it to be set at a lower value, you have to find the right one testing the application ) and using the CTU inside that ladder file called by STI you will be sure to count all pulses. Chapter 18 of the Reference Manual could help on that... see also Aid 17501 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SERCOS Card inquiry Is the Sercos card supposed to be installed where the Processor is at? or can it be placed in the Remote rack? ### Assistant: Motion Modules CANNOT be located in remote chassis See Aid 41712 for details. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex 700 20-COMM_E Problem I have hooked up two PowerFlex 700 drives to a ControlLogix processor via a 1756-ENBT card. The drives are the only things that are on the network. The first drive connects but then faults out on a F75 (Port 5 Adapter) fault and the second drive will not connect because of a Code 16 ### Assistant: Both errors could happen due to a wrong connection size setting in RSLogix5000 IO configuration. See Aid 53820 and Aid 45272 (this is done for SMC-Flex, but applies also to a PF700)Follow carefully the configuration steps indicated in the 20-COMM-E User Manual. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Actually the only way I could get these to work is too manually go to the drive and enter the 20-COMM-E parameters. Then I had to reset the module from the drive. It had to be reset using the parameters. Cycling power to the drives does not work. Also loading the parameters via the controller or drive tools does not fix the issues. They have to be entered manually and reset manually. Kind of like the 1395 drives, when you have to manually save to EEPROM the parameter changes from Drive Tools or you will lose them on power cycle. If anyone is having these same problems try the above. I don't know if it is a fluke in the AB hardware or something I am doing on my end, but the above fixed both problems. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Premier Integration and Flash Firmware Updates on Architecture Drives Greetings, I'm trying to understand better, when using the Logix 5000 Firmware Supervisor in Logix 5000 and it says that PF 70 and 700 drives are supported; does that mean just the comm card, or both the card and the drive. I would love some clarification on this. Cheers ### Assistant: Actually only the Drive firmware can be updated.Peripheral modules will be supported at a later time - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1100 link to more than 9 sets PVc (2711C-K2M) by DH485 Serial communication with AIC+ Dear all, Does any one has the experiences with one Micrologix Serial port link to more than 9 sets Panel View Component by RS485/DH485? I can only link to 6 sets PVc with the DH485 performance OK(Sent NAK=0, and Total Bad Packets Received=0). The DH485 will broken (some nodes will warning communication failed frequently) with all 9 sets PVc on communication. The total DH485 cable length is about 56m. The result with 6 nodes is: node 1,2,3,4,5,6 on communication [Message Received=23492] [Message Sent=23493] [Messages Retried=0] [Retry Limit Exceeded=0] [Sent NAK=2] [Received NAK=0] [total Bad Packets Received=0] The best result is: node 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 on communication [Message Received=1504] [Message Sent=1505] [Messages Retried=0] [Retry Limit Exceeded=0] [Sent NAK=134] [Received NAK=0] [total Bad Packets Received=0] the worst result: node 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 on communication [Message Received=74] [Message Sent=74] [Messages Retried=0] [Retry Limit Exceeded=0] [Sent NAK=184] [Received NAK=0] [total Bad Packets Received=88] ======================= System Structure: +---------+ 1763-L16 [Ch0]------(1763-NC01)------ +---------+ | | | [Terminal Resistor] | | | | | +--(RS485) ### Assistant: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just more data than the poor little DH485 connection can handle. But, in case that's not it, do you have 24dc power going into each Net-AIC module? That will help condition the signal so that the long line doesn't lose signal before it gets to the end. JHutch Dear JHutch, Yes. I connect for the 4 sets DC Power Supply with ONE comm. terminal, which each set 24V DC 100 Watts power supply for 3 sets (Pannel View Component 2711C-K2M and NET-AIC+). The communication data are only ONE bit for Read and ONE bit for Write. Hmm. Well, your baud is set to 9600. If the line is not having noise problems, then it would be bandwidth related. Try bumping the network up to 19200 baud and see if it helps? Even with only single bits flying around, the overhead just from passing the token to that many devices will chew up a lot of bandwidth. Then, you don't say how often the single bits are flying around. There is more overhead on the tag request than in the actual data being moved, so fast data requests *could* be killing it, too... JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Transferring Application File from PanelView C1000 I have built an application that is 7 screens and over 150 objects. When I transfer the file, either using the configuration screen directly to a USB memory stick, or by using the File Transfer tab on a laptop that is connected via Ethernet, the resulting file is 20KB. When I attempt to open this file in the Emulator, I get a blank screen. I am getting very nervous that I will have no backup of my application. Am I missing something?rmb550 ### Assistant: Just a few questions: Are you sure firmware of PVc and Emulator have the same version?Do you have a Window OS different than English ? See Aid 54301May you please post your .cha file to test (put it inside a .zip file) ? - fuzzy logic Thanks for your interest in my problem.The PanelView C1000 has the following attributes:Firmware Version : 01.01Boot Code Version : 01.01Logic Board Version : 12Memory Usage : Application Used : 30,089,216The Emulator has the same Firmware and Boot Code Versions, but Logic Board Version is 10, and Application used is 12,783,616. The File Manager page in the emulator only shows the Initial_T10C file.The Laptop is running Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2 and is a standard North American version.I am attaching the suspect file in .zip format.Regards,rmb550 Don't worry, your application is safely backed up on your PC ! :smileyhappy: I've succesfully opened it with my Emulator version 1.11. Just open the Panelview Explorer from inside your browser, select File Transfer, then New Transfer and copy your application in the Internal Storage of your Emulator, and you will be able to test it. To edit it, you just need to double click your .cha file, the Emulator will launch and when it is completely loaded,open up the Panelview Explorer and your application should be listed in the Dashboard. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix Chassis Where to find 1756-TD006A-EN-E 1756 ControlLogix Chassis Specifications Technical Data ? ### Assistant: Here: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/td/1756-td006_-en-e.pdf - fuzzy logic The file in the link does not exist! It most certainly does. I just followed that link a moment ago and was able to view the PDF file. Do you have any version of Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your computer ? I browsed to File Not Found I have Adobe Acrobat Reader 9.3.1 Ken Roach wrote: It most certainly does. I just followed that link a moment ago and was able to view the PDF file. Do you have any version of Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your computer ? Wow guys, that's really strange.... I've just downloaded it from the indicated link, and works great ! :smileysurprised: I'm using Acrobat Reader 9.1.0 Anyway, I've just attached it to this post .... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic It's nothing to do with what version of acrobat been used, because I get the following message: Internet Explorer can not download 1756-td006_-en-e.pdf from ...ature.rockwellautomation.com. when the save as function of IE is used. However, I downloaded the file from another link fuzzy provided successfully. Thanks. Hmmm... I've googled the error you get, here some of the results, maybe they will help you to solve it definitely, just to avoid this happen in future.... it seems a problem on your PCs though.... LINK 1LINK 2LINK 3 - fuzzy logic It may not be a computer problem but may be caused by the ISP. It gets involved in how the ISP tries to convert the URL into IP addresses to find the content server. It can all be in what is left over that finally gets passed to the content server. In passing things around to find a proper routing, things can get truncated. This is especially true on connections in remote foreign countries. One trick that works sometimes(less than 50/50) is to go to the sites home page. This keeps the URL string as small as possible. The set of serves you go threw will find the proper IP routing and remember it. Then when you go to the longer address of the page you want it can attach the routing much sooner and avoid truncations. In the US we are lulled into a false sense of security and think the web is mathematically rigorous. In reality it is fuzzy. Thanks for that interesting perspective, Michael. The RA literature server resolves for me as 192.94.123.21, so if we wanted to take DNS out of the picture, we could link directly to the host. http://192.94.123.21/idc/groups/literature/documents/td/1756-td006_-en-e.pdf I noticed that cfhung has multiple posts requesting literature items, so it's possible that his DNS issues are limiting his ability to search for literature. He didn't mention which country or ISP he uses. I'm not a DNS expert, but it may be illustrative to see how DNS resolves the Literature server versus the Forum server: ping literature.rockwellautomation.com Pinging mkeudmzap25.rockwellautomation.com [192.94.123.21] with 32 bytes of data: ping forums.rockwellautomation.com Pinging rockwell.lithium.com [208.74.204.206] with 32 bytes of data: n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix 1200 Totalizer Hi, Is there any totalizer count block or programming which can be done in RSLogix500 as per current existing 4-20mA analog points (basically flow in m3./hr) connecting to above MicroLogix 1200 PLCAnalog Module? ### Assistant: You may find some informations and examples inside the following technotes: Aid 17889 and Aid 44939 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Daisy chain 1794-6.5.2 FLEX I/O Analog Modules User Manual, Page 2-3, described that, “Do not daisy chain power or ground from an analog terminal base unit to any ac or dc discrete module terminal base unit.” To what extent the analog I/O signal will be infected by discrete module? ### Assistant: Similarly to the possible issues indicated by Ken Roach in this other thread, that is suggested to avoid noise coming from AC or DC modules via the power cables.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1305 frequency The frequency on my 1305 always resets to 0 after a shutdown. Can I get it to resume to an existing frequency that it was when powered back up? ### Assistant: pat, I guess you're using the HMI to set your Frequency Command, by the Increment / Decrement arrows, right ? Then, cycling power to the drive will set the frequency command to the value stored in HIM memory. :smileysurprised: Pressing both keys simultaneously stores the current HIM frequency command in HIM memory. The Speed Indicator LEDs will flash momentarily to indicate a successful save (if speed is above 20 percent); so the next time you restart, you will start from that value... obviously it cannot be the same as it was before the drive was powered down, just a fixed starting frequency you may decide. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic thanks that solved my problem I'm happy for that.... any Kudos to this *poor* guy that helped you a couple of times ?! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Under range 1794-6.5.2 FLEX I/O Analog Modules User Manual, Page 4-4 described that, when under range bit set (1), indicates either a broken or open input wire, or input current at or below 4mA. Is it true that input current “at” 4mA or “below” it, say 3.99mA, will set this bit? If it is, how can we identify that there is an open input wire or not from the status of this bit? ### Assistant: Unfortunately it isn't possible to have a distinction between the two situations.... :smileysad: If you are very closed to the minimum input range (i.e. 3.99 mA) you may see the bit *oscillates* between 0 and 1 and also the input value does oscillate between 0 and a small value (it could be interpreted as a minimum value, and thus you know the wire is in place).... if you are below this current value, you will see the input value to steady 0 and the underrange bit steady 1 ....and this could be interpreted as an open wire, if your analog device usually operates in the valid current range.... for sure the input value stays fixed at 0 when you have an open wire condiction... Again, just *intuitions*, not *certainties* .... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Up Handler In AB PLC and Starup OBs in Siemens PLC Compare Can any one please tell me what are the differences between AB PLC's power Up handler and Start up OBs of Siemens PLC. Thanks in Advance. SandeepW ### Assistant: I'm not an expert of Siemens PLCs :smileytongue: but I may explain how the Logix Powerup Handler works... The power up handler in a Logix controller has one of two purposes. It can prevent the processor from returning to RUN mode if power has been lost and restored in run mode (be aware It does NOT execute on a program to run switch).It can also be used to run ladder in the power up routine to take a specific power up action. The routine must also specifically clear the power up fault that is generated by have a power up routine ( if a fault is not desired). In fact, on power up, the following major fault will be generated if there is a power up routine defined and it does not clear the fault: Type 01,Code 01, Power-up Fault, Power lost and restored in RUN mode. If the fault is not desired, either remove the power up program or handle the fault in the power up program as described in the Logix5000 Controllers Major and Minor Faults Programming Manual ;the same manual in chapter 2 describes the Power-Up handler. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Which cable when uploading from a PV300? Trying to comm with a PV300 using pc with a serial port, and DF-1 driver. I am using cable ### Assistant: I guess you're connecting to a PV300 micro... in this case the cable is correct (1761-CBL-PM02) - See Aid 18955 If you've trouble to communicate with, be sure your model is the one with DF1 protocol...If you're trying using the Panelbuilder32 internal DF1 driver, be sure RSLinx Classic doesn't use the same serial port inside one of its drivers... or other programs may also have that port already in use... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for your reply. I have a PV300 Micro. It uses DH485 protocol. Is this still the correct cable to use? When I try to connect, I am making sure the COM1 port is open and not in use by another program/device. No luck yet. 2711-M3A19L1 Thanks Yes, the cable is correct, just you've to use RSLinx configuring for it a DH-485 driver (the one named 1747-PIC / AIC+ driver). - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF40 running lower voltage motors. Can I operate a 230vac motor on a 480vac PowerFlex 40? ### Assistant: I would also like to use a 230 VAC motor in a 480 VAC application. Is it possible to just set the nameplate info in P031 - P033 in a PowerFlex 4. This should not be a problem if ALL of the motor parameters are set, including number of poles. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-IRT8 Series A simulation 1794-RN067B-EN-P - October 2006 “Using the 1794-IRT8 Thermocouple RTD Module Release Notes” described that “Do not use this 1794-IRT8 series B product in series A mode. Do not connect a jumper across terminals 39 and 48 on the terminal base unit.” However, 1794-IN050J-EN-P - January 2009 “TC MV RTD Input Module 1794-IRT8_B Installation Instructions” described that “To simulate series A module wire-off detection behavior using a series B module, connect a wire between terminals 39 and 48 on the 1794-TB3G or 1794-TB3GS terminal base unit. If not connected, the Series B module will default to Series B functionality. The two descriptions seem conflicting, who is right? ### Assistant: Both are correct.... :smileysurprised: just is important to note that the first manual you've indicated reports this issue applies only to particular revisions of the module ... The second is really new (Jan 2009) and assumes you've a newer version of the module (IMO it would be better to still report this anomaly also to the last manual... :smileysurprised: ) Anyway, technote 35026 better describes the issue... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: usinng a 1769-SDN with 1764-LSP Micrologix 1500 for Compact logix discrete I/O Hello I have problems to browse my 1769-SDN scanner in a new proyect, somebody can give me an easy step by step help? Thank so much ### Assistant: Here some resources you may consult: Tutorial (on the installation CD)Getting Results guideUser Manual Basic steps could be: Connect your -SDN to a valid network (24Vdc power, correct Devicenet cable and terminations, other devices)Using either a 1770-KFD, 1784-PCID, 1784-PCD or newer 1784-U2DN, connect your PC to the network and configure the communication driver inside RSLinx Classic.Open RSNetworx for Devicenet and go online, browsing for your device...be aware the scanner default to node #63, so some minutes could be required to see it appear in the network window. Obviously the above is for *expert* users, as some other intermediate steps could be needed to realize what is indicated. Try to read the documentation indicated in this post, then you might post again with more precise questions... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Channel status CNET-UM001C-EN-P ControlNet Modules 1794-ACNR15 in Logix5000 Control Systems User Manual, page 8-22, described that if either channel status indicators is off, then it means that the module has no power on it and need to apply the power. What if only one channel status is off but another channel status is steady green? Does it still mean that the module has no power on it? This question also apply to the rest 3 channel statuses. ### Assistant: Hmmm... there is something either ambiguous or wrong in that manual about the 1794-ACN15 led status... :smileysurprised: The two table descriptions should be either inverted, or better described. The one at page 8-21 should be like: If either one of the channel status indicator is: The one at page 8-22 should be like: If Both Channel Status Indicators Are simultaneously: A correct table is available at page 3 of the Installation Instructions of the adapter, and reported here: Anyway, in a no power situation, obviously all the three leds are off... :smileywink: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic OK, under the two table descriptions been inverted, if either one of the channel status indicator is flashing green/off or flashing red/off, the actions are to check media for broken cables, loose connectors, missing terminators. Both cases seem a physical communication connection problem. How does the module make the difference?Also, if either one of the channel status indicator is flashing red/off, another cause is no other nodes present on network or redundancy warning. What does that mean? The flashing green/off appears if the fault comes intermittently (Temporary Network Errors) and could be generated by noise, defective taps, BNC badly crimped, *kinked*cable, etc. ...see Aid 46715 The flashing red/off indicates there aren't other nodes on the network, and if they *are* on the network, then there is a constant bad physical connection,and causes could be the same as above.This led indication could be differently interpreted if you're using a redundant cable solution on Controlnet; in that case the adapter is trying to recover , waiting for previously accumulated errors to dissipate....Media recovery may take a few minutes before the LED for the channel goes solid green, this is because the network must verify that the channel is indeed good. It does this by tranmitting packets on this channel, once the number of good packets are greater than the number of bad packets, in the buffer of the device, it then changes the LED status to GREEN. If the channel has a numerous number of bad packets, this process could take some time until it is verified as good to transmit on again. Hope this helps,- fuzzy logic What about redundancy warning? What problem will be for redundant cabling? It is already written in previous post.... :smileysurprised:fuzzy logic wrote: The flashing red/off ...This led indication could be differently interpreted if you're using a redundant cable solution on Controlnet; in that case the adapter is trying to recover , waiting for previously accumulated errors to dissipate....Media recovery may take a few minutes before the LED for the channel goes solid green.....The warning is intended as explained, channel is in a recovery tentative... :smileysurprised: Redundant cabling problem is still the same as single channel cabling problem, I mean BNC badly crimped, cable interrupted, disconnected, etc... - fuzzy logic There is miss understanding. Let me described this way: In redundant cabling application, if communication network for channel A is OK but not for channel B due to noise, defective taps, BNC badly crimped, *kinked*cable, etc., then what will the status be for channel B LED? Flashing green/off or flashing red/off? If communication network for both channel A and B are not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A and B LED? In not redundant cabling application (only one network is in used) and if only channel A is configured to be used, but the communication network is not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A LED? Ok, here the answer... in blue... :smileywink:In redundant cabling application, if communication network for channel A is OK but not for channel B due to noise, defective taps, BNC badly crimped, *kinked*cable, etc., then what will the status be for channel B LED? Flashing green/off or flashing red/off? Both could happen, it depends by the nature of the problem, intermittently or stable cable problem or noise... (channel A led will be steady GREEN) If communication network for both channel A and B are not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A and B LED? Both (Flashing green/off or flashing red/off) could happen, it depends by the nature of the problem, intermittently or stable cable problem or noise... In not redundant cabling application (only one network is in used) and if only channel A is configured to be used, but the communication network is not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A LED? Both (Flashing green/off or flashing red/off) could happen, it depends by the nature of the problem, intermittently or stable cable problem or noise... (Channel B led will be OFF) Anyway, I've usually seen it flashing red/off due to the cable issues, as it is quite unusual the problem is intermittent (but still could be ! :smileytongue: ) - fuzzy logic The status of the LED depends by the nature of the problem (intermittently or stable cable problem or noise...) then it seems that it has nothing to do with redundant cabling or redundancy warning, has it? Yes, this is true cfhung, just when you're using redundant cabling solution, the channel's flashing red led could also indicate a transition from a fault to recovering (this is the why it is indicated as redundancy warning)...definitely it could mean either the following: . stable cable problem / disconnected cable etc. waiting to recover from previous errors That means it could happen you are seeing a flashing red NOT for an actual problem, just the problem is solved but the channel has not yet considered OK, as the module is checking the healty of that channel. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000i stops moving I have an ultra3000i transferring pallets that stops indexing and does not fault the drive it just sits still. Have tried thru panel view to manually adv or return no response. I have also had laptop connected to drive and tried thru index control. Monitor screen shows drive enabled and in motion but is not moving. Only way to recover is to cycle power to drive andit will function properly for sometimes several hours. any where to start diagnosing this? Thanks ### Assistant: Hmmm.... the fact the In Motion *lamp* is ON and motor doesn't move seems to indicate a problem in the logic control of the drive...IMO it should be repaired / replaced ... :smileysad: What about the other status infos and lamps in the Ultraware panel ? Try to enable more info using the Setup button,try to post again if you like, maybe others could help you more... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic i had most all items showing from setup and didn't really see any change other than the encoder feedback was doing nothing and the index # commanded had changed to 0 ( which is return to 0 position) and the axis homed indicator goes out. It did give an E20 encoder invalid state once yesterday. Thanks About error E20, see : Aid 41840 - Aid 23861similar Thread - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Rate alarm simulation Analog input module 1756-IF6I provides rate alarm. This alarm could be used to disable a trip logic for certain application, e.g., temperature high trip a equipment. However, analog input module 1794-IRT8 does not provide rate alarm function. Is it possible to write a Ladder logic to simulate rate alarm function in RSLogix 5000? ### Assistant: cfhung, Yes, you can do the calculation in the controller, but you need to be careful about dealing with scan times. You may need to set up Real Time Sampling (RTS) and/or use a CST-timestamped connection so you have correspondence between the analog value and the time it was read. Once you have a value and a time, just calculate the change in value over the change in time, accounting for units of measure (per second, per minute, per hour, etc.) to get a rate of change: The GRT/LEQ protect you in case the scan time (for whatever crazy reason) comes in as zero or negative (no minor fault on divide by zero). Val is the current PV. Val-Wrk_PrevPV is the change in PV. Wrk_ScanTime is the delta-T. I don't show how to calculate it here, but it's the change in the timestamp value from the module, or if you're using the controller clock, it's the change in the CST CurrentValue[0]. (See the forum posting Minor Fault caused by using Clock Update Tool? for info on how to calculate controller scan time.) Cfg_RateTime is 1.0 (for rate of change in units per second), 60.0 (for units per minute), 3600.0 (units per hour), etc. If you are looking for change in units-of-measure per second exclusively, you can leave this extra parameter out of the calc. Once you have calculated the PV rate of change, you can just use a GEQ to compare it to a limiting value to generate the alarm. If you don't have good correspondence between the PV's value and its capture time, you will probably get some jitter in the calculated rate of change value. You could use a first-order filter to make the value a bit more stable, but be sure you don't filter out the change you are looking to alarm! This method works OK if you are scanning often compared to the change you are trying to detect. If you want to capture a change that takes a few milliseconds using code scanned every 100 or 200 milliseconds, this won't do. But for most analog inputs, any change that's just a few milliseconds is usually noise, not signal. You'll probably want to test the bejeebers out of whatever you develop, possibly using some nifty kind of signal source wired to the input. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: COmpactLogix: access to Compact Flash card? Dear guys,is it possible to access the CompactFlash card in the logic program? I want to read some ASCI or numbers out a text file stored on the Compact Flash card or to check the Volume Serial Number of the card.The aim is to check a serial number related to the CF card and to authorize to run the controller. I want to run the controller with just one card exclusively.Is that possible? Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: There are informations about the read/write operations you can realize in a Logix controller in Aid 28539 ... Unfortunately CompactLogix controllers have not this possibility... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic The problem with the CF cards in the current CompactLogix hardware was the potential corruption of data during the write cycle. Reading data won't be officially supported, but it won't be logically prohibited in firmware either. The same CIP messages that work in ControlLogix will work in CompactLogix with regard to the CompactFlash filesystem. It is also possible to set up an RSLogix 5000 program that will only execute on a specific controller serial number. I haven't tried to do that using the CF card itself as the serial number device. HI Ken,I've already tried to do program which only executes on a specific contoller serial number, but during download I was asked to change the program serial no. to the current cpu serial no. . How you could protect that? And second, you mean the read operation on the CF card is possible and how? Can you supply me a test app? I don't have extensive experience with controller serial number matching. I think that if you don't have the original *.ACD file that it won't allow you to change the serial number for the program to match the serial number of the CPU. It may be that this feature was meant to be run in conjunction with the CF card image and the OEM lock feature. Reads and writes to and from the CF card in a CompactLogix are the same as in a ControlLogix; Answer ID 28539 as linked above. The official word on this functionality in the CompactLogix is that it's not supported because the chance of corrupt write data is too high when the controller is in Run mode. It's a layout and shielding issue on the Compact motherboard that doesn't exist on the larger ControlLogix motherboard. It does not affect the controller when it is in Program mode, which is the conventional use of the CompactFlash memory device. My expectation is that the next generation of CompactLogix hardware (whenever that happens) will include some changes that make this function stable. Some news here guys, now the read / write operations to the CF at runtime is supported also on newly built CompactLogix, see the technote 64442 for more infos... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Printing Selected Rungs in RSLogix 5000 Has anyone else have this problem? You go to print a few rungs of a routine using the File --> Print --> Rungs: Then it prints out the entire routine, wasting about 50 pages of paper. It only happens the first time you print it seems. I've looked up this problem and it seems like people are coping with the problem by just using 3rd party software to capture/print the current screenshot. Does anyone know a better way? It's not a big deal but I tend to like trees. Eric ### Assistant: Hmmm.... just tried using v15, v16, v17 and it works fine for me... :smileysurprised: I may use both Selection or Ranges to print some rungs. Did you get the same with all your projects ? Or just one ? If the last is true, try to save the project as .L5K and then reimport... (not sure if it will help, but it is quick to try :smileytongue: )Did you also test it on another PC ?Which is the software version do you use ? I'm afraid but I'm not able to replicate your issue here.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Hey Fuzzy I'm on v16.03. The frustrating part is that it seems to happen randomly, and only once for the project I'm in, then it never happens again until I open another project or after I restart the computer. This happened to a few of my other co-workers on other PCs as well. Thanks for trying, I'm planning on upgrading to v18 after January, maybe that will fix the problem. Eric For what it's worth, I'm having the same problem that Eric is having. Versions installed: 16.03 and 17.01 n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-IB16/A counter enable In configuring 1794-IB16/A module under RSLogix 5000, there is an option to enable counter. What does it use for and where to see the counter parameters? ### Assistant: See Aid 18229... just be aware to configure the module as a Direct Connection for Input Data, to retrieve the Counter value... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-IRT8 series A/B 1794-IRT8 module has series A and B. Why there is no option for series A or B when adding a new 1794-IRT8 module in RSLogix 5000? Also, after the 1794-IRT8 module is added, why the module property can not show the module's series information? ### Assistant: There is no option for series A or B because there is no major difference between the two. The only two things I see are these: As of 1794-IRT8 Series B, firmware revision C, CJC diagnostic bits will indicate if the two CJCs used on the module are measuring temperatures different by 5 degrees or more. A warning bit will be set.- If the wire off detection bit is enabled by configuration software, the wire off condition on any channel will be registered by setting a diagnostic bit for the corresponding input.Temperature reading will go to a Maximum value if 1794-IRT8 Series A is used.Temperature reading will go to Zero if 1794-IRT8 Series B is used. I don't know why the module info doesn't show the series. Hi guys, I think the *trick* is explained in Aid 39244 ... :smileysurprised: Basically, these modules DO NOT follow the standard Electronic Keying rules - fuzzy logic It's a cruel world! But it explains the behaviour. :smileywink: Why do these modules not follow the standard Electronic Keying rules? A design defect? That has been decided due to the possibility for series B module to act as a series A module by a jumper wire (Aid 29787), so who want to use this *feature* has not to deal with keying mismatch...this is definitely a decided exception. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Reporting Utility We have been using the RSView32 Reporting Utility that was available in Technote A1927 for several years. We use it to generate simple log reports to capture process readings with a time stamp. It has worked great with Ver. 7.0 of RSView32. I searched for the technote and it is no longer in the knowledgebase. I was hoping it may have been updated. I am in the process of installing programs on a new laptop and am reluctant to install the latest version of RSView32 for fear the reporting utility may not work. The reporting utility was created using VB and Crystal Reports and I actually bought a copy of Crystal Reports so I could do some customization of the forms. Anyone else ever used this or perhaps have a better alternative for creating reports? ### Assistant: This one was fun to track down ... :) First, it looks like A1927 was changed to A9239 in the old Knowledge Base many MANY years ago. (The date codes from a backup of the old KB show this was done sometime prior to May 2001.) Then, I searched the new KB for A9239 ... it had been marked internal only because the product group decided it wasn't the best solution for that problem and started a new technote with a new procedure. Unfortunately, no one ever *finished* the new one. The upshot of this is that I re-released the old one and you can find it by searching for AID 9239 (or click directly on the link). Good luck,JHutch Thanks for the info. Would be nice if they could finish the better solution. :smileyhappy: Do you know if the utility will work with current version (7.4 I think) of RSView32? Sorry, that I don't know. If you create a case through the Ask a Question link in the Knowledge Base, the system will route it to the RSView32 support folks automatically and they should be able to tell you. When Ask a Question asks for the part number or description, put in RSView32 for the description and it should pop up a selection of RSView32 products. Any of them will work for routing it to the right folks. JHutch We are in the process of converting our system from RSView32 to FactoryTalk View 5.0. Is there any way to generate reports in FTV similar to the ones generated in this utility for RSV32? I've been most successful doing reports by logging to an ODBC database and embedding a query into an Excel spreadsheet. There is a tech note on this - see 29789. I once saw someone use a SQL Server reporting option to generate a web-based report. I haven't done it myself, but if the report was visible there, you could use a Web Browser ActiveX control in your clients to view the report data. For details on that part, see tech note 55526. Thanks for the info. I tried to use the method in tech note 39707 which shows how to configure an Access ODBC database. I tried to get it to work with my existing RSView32 project just as a test but have not been successful. When I stop my project I have a message that says Unable to access ODBC data source. (Attempt to connect to datasource failed) Does the database have to be running on Windows Server or will it work with XP Pro? I'm just trying to get it to work on my machine which is running XP. A co-worker said he had set up an ODBC database using SQL Server Express and it runs fine on XP. After several tries I finally got it to work. Is it possible to do a query on string tags? I tried that but so far only float tags are showing up in my database. I tried this here and the RSView LogViewer appears to only treat strings as numeric. It would still be possible to query these tags out of an ODBC database, but not with anything in RSView32 - would need to be an external program such as Excel with an embedded query or custom VB code. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Re: RSLinx PIC Driver I recently upgraded my computer and purchased the 1747-UIC, I was able to load the drivers and successfully connect to a SLC500 using RSlogix500, but when I try to add a new tag to the current RSview32 program and load it, the customer computer will not connect to the PLC. This customer site has the 1747-PICs and it appears that since the 1747-PIC driver is not loaded on my design computer, it generates an error. What can be done? ### Assistant: Check your node configuration. I don't believe there is a driver selection for a UIC in RSView's channel configuration, so you would want to use an OPC node. If you are using a direct driver node, switch to OPC and make sure to specify an access path. That access path should translate to the name of a topic in RSLinx Classic that points to the correct controller. The easiest way to get this part right is to go into RSLinx, open the RSWho window, find the controller and right-click on it, then select Configure new DDE/OPC topic. Just make sure the name here matches what you put in the access path or it won't work. If you are already using OPC nodes, check the RSLinx communication event log to get an idea of what the error is. n"}
{"text": "### Human: AYUDA QUIERO SABER QUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR A RESOLVER EL PROBLEMA QUE TENGO CON UN SOFWARE DEL RSVIEW32 VERSION 2.15.00 ELPROBLEMA ES QUE ME MARECA FALLA DE QUE ME FALTA UN ARCHIVO PARA CORRER EL PROGRAMA QUE ES FBH32.DLL INTENTE REPARAR PERO NO HAY RESULTADO, TAMBIEN INTENTE DESINSTALARLO Y NO SE PUEDE QUE MAS ME SUGIEREN REALIZAR GRACIAS. ### Assistant: Automated translation via Google: WANT TO KNOW WHO CAN HELP ME TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE RSView32 SOFTWARE VERSION 2.15.00 MARECO ELPROBLEMA FAULT IS THAT ME THAT I'M MISSING A FILE FOR RUNNING THE PROGRAM IS ATTEMPTING TO REPAIR BUT FBH32.DLL no results, try uninstalling and ALSO CAN NOT SUGGEST THAT MAKE ME MORE THANKS. Hello Super, I hope that you can read this answer. I am translating it into Spanish using BabelFish below I've searched 2 computers that have most Rockwell Software products installed and I cannot find a file called FBH32.DLL. Could you please verify the spelling of that name? Also, there does not exist a version of the program RSView32 of version 2.15. Are you sure that your question is about RSView32? ===En Español: Espero que usted pueda leer esta respuesta. La estoy traduciendo a español usando BabelFish abajo. He buscado 2 computadoras que tienen la mayoría de productos de software de Rockwell instalado y no puedo encontrar un archivo llamado FBH32.DLL. ¿Podría usted verificar por favor el deletreo de ese nombre? También, no existe una versión del programa RSView32 de la versión 2.15. ¿Está usted seguro que su pregunta está sobre RSView32? n"}
{"text": "### Human: factory talk me studio lockout i have an employee who has installed factory talk ME on a laptop and has passworded it and he cannot remember the password, i have uninstalled and reinstalled the software, i have also installed the current updates and still cannot use the software. please help! ### Assistant: I think you will need to contact Rockwell Tech Support for a FactoryTalk password reset @ 440-646-5800. - fuzzy logic Fuzzy is most likely right, but just in case, try logging into the computer as an Administrator (if you have not already done so). If you are still prompted for a user name, try Administrator with a blank password and again with the word administrator. Also, on some occasions I have been able to recover from this if I made an .APA and I knew a FactoryTalk username/password that was valid in that APA. If that is the case, you can restore the .APA and select the option to restore the FactoryTalk directory. This doesn't work with Windows users unless you are using a domain controller.. Other than these ideas, only other suggestion is to call Tech Support and have someone reset the FactoryTalk directory for you. Uninstall/reinstall does not affect security (which is a good thing if you think about it). If you install the FT Platform (CPR9 and above) and configure security, aren't you obliged to make an administrator account with a valid Windows account?In that case you can try to log in with the administrator account of Windows. Even when you are logged in as administrator in Windows, he will ask for a username and password.Then use the same credentials again you used to log in for Windows. If it doesn't work, call Tech Support. So in either way, Tech Support will work :smileytongue: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Tuning out the noise on 2098-dsd-010x I had two servo drives installed on the same machine to replace an air cylinder and a stepper motor assembly. The Servo Controllers are 2098-dsd-010x and they were connected to TLY A230THJ62AA series servo motors. With one servo motor installed and running everything ran perfect.When the second Servo controller and motor were installed I could see blips on the I/O connections to the SLC 5/04 PLC. The Vendor that was assisting us in this conversion tried a couple of things that didn't work and then made a phone call and came back and adjusted the tuning feature in the Ultraware Software program, which eliminated the blips on the I/O.I now have four more machines to convert and was hoping someone could point me to a technote or had some tips to offer on tuning these controllers to eliminate the noise so there are no hiccups or intermittent problems with the I/O. TIA Jim ### Assistant: Sounds like your vendor did a little hand waving... I haven't had any experiences (with any brand or model) such that motor tuning affected I/O cabling. Generally, these problems are associated with wiring routing, grounding/shielding termination or other basic installation practices that were skipped or installed poorly. All communication or intermittent I/O problems I have had, have always been traced to installation problem, or field failures (i.e. worn out cables etc.). Don't be supprised if the problem shows back up. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-IRT8 CJC 1794-6.5.12 – November 1997 “Thermocouple/ RTD/ Millivolt Input Module User Manual” described that “Terminals 37, 38 and 39 and 46, 47 and 48 are for cold junction compensation (with 38 and 47 chassis GND). Connect CJC1 to terminal 5 or 21; CJC2 to terminal 12 or 29.” However, 1794-IN050J-EN-P - January 2009 “FLEX I/O Thermocouple/RTD Input Analog Module Installation Instructions” described that “Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 5 and CJC2 to terminal 12 if channels 0…3 or 0…7 are configured for thermocouples. Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 22 and CJC2 to 29 if channels 4…7 are configured for thermocouples.” Is the description incorrect in the former document? For the description in the later document: “…if channels 0…3 or 0…7 are…”, does it mean “any” or “all” channel(s)? If it is “any”, then “channel 0~3 or 0~7” has no difference; if it is “all”, then “Example of RTD and Thermocouple Wiring to a 1794-TB3G Terminal Base Unit” in the later document seems incorrect, since not all channel 0~3 or 0~7 are configured for thermocouples. What is the truth anyway? ### Assistant: I think there is an error in the newest manual.They mean: “Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 5 and CJC2 to terminal 12 if channels 0…3 are configured for thermocouples. Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 22 and CJC2 to 29 if channels 4…7 are configured for thermocouples.”Channels 4 to 7 are on the B row (terminals 16 to 33) so it's obvious to me that they use terminal 22 and 29 for the Cold Juntions. Hi guys, I see NO errors in the manual... :smileysurprised: Here my *reading* of the matter: 1. If you configure ONLY channels 0 to 3 to use thermocouples, then CJC1 go to terminal 5 and CJC2 go to terminal 122. If you configure ONLY channels 4 to 7 to use thermocouples, then CJC1 go to terminal 22 and CJC2 go to terminal 293. If you configure BOTH groups of channels (that means channels 0 to 7) to use thermocouples, then CJC1 go to terminal 5 and CJC2 go to terminal 12 So, the statement :Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 5 and CJC2 to terminal 12 if channels 0…3 or 0…7 are configured for thermocouples. is correct due to the above last case. Simply, in the old manual the second possibility is omitted, the newest manual is more detailed on that. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic That could be right fuzzy :smileytongue:But I still don't understand why they shifted the terminal to 22... The older manual states 21 for CJC1.I'm getting really confused, or maybe I'm too long in the Rockwell office :smileyvery-happy: That *IS* right Jamy ! :smileywink: :smileytongue: About the terminal, it is explained in the following statement: The terminal you attach the pig-tail to does not matter because the pig-tail portion of the CJC is not an electrical connection. The pig-tail end contains a thermocouple whose function is to sample the temperature of that portion of the terminal block to which it is connected. Once understood it doesn't matter, I may guess they just do this to create a similitude between the two rows of the Terminal Base... I mean: CJC1 is on terminal labelled H of the second channel in that row.CJC2 is on the terminal labelled + of the last channel in that row. Again, it isn't important, you may connect it indifferently either to terminal 21 or 22. ...go out get some fresh air ! (obviously I'm joking, Jamy ! :smileytongue: ) - fuzzy logic What is the element for the pig-tail? An RTD? or Thermocouple? or somthing else? fuzzy logic wrote:...The pig-tail end contains a thermocouple ... - fuzzy logic Looks like he needs a break too :smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SmartGuard 600 1752-L24BBBE, I cannot find a EDS file for this product, also how do you program it, I was told by my rep that I could use RSNetworks for Ethernet/IP to set it up, but unlike the DeviceNet version, I do not have a Logic tab, probably because I cannot find a EDS file, any help would be appreciated, I have talked with my TechConnect rep, and they recommended upgrading RSLinx Classic, so I did to version 2.55, no luck. ### Assistant: To program and configure the Smartguard 600 Ethernet/IP version, you still need RSNetworx for Devicenet... :smileysurprised: Anyway, you may find informations about needed software are in Aid 61509. See also Aid 56983 , User Manual , Reference Manual , Inst. Instructions for other infos and instructions to use Ethernet connection to access and program the Smarguard 600. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Queuing first out alarm If there are 20 causes to trip a unit, to find out the first cause, some first out logic were derived. But if the first out cause to be saved up to 5 times, is it possible to develop a ladder logic in RSLogix 5000? ### Assistant: I've usually only saved the last first-out trip. Each trip should check a common trip latch bit, and if the latch is not set, then save this trip as the first-out, then set the common latch. The common latch prevents any additional trips from over-writing the first-out. A reset will clear the common latch, and clear the first-out. If you need to keep a history of the last 5 first-out trips, you can shift the first-out into a table on a reset (but you may need to make sure that additional presses of the reset button do not continue to shift the table when there is no new first-out). Jeff Thanks for the reply, but is it possible for you to write a sample ladder logic for that in RSLogix 5000? First fault latching in ladder logic is no better than the scan time. Often you get multiple hits. Also since IO is asynchronous to logic scan you can get false indications. The new Alarms and Events system may help this. I just did my first application with alarms and events. For several critical faults I set the IO for immediate updates. I still have not figured out how to get the A&E logic to execute immediately on changes. Next I will need to look a the times in A&E to figure out which really happened first. I do not have it all done yet. Has anyone else taken first fault trapping to this level? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Wiring 3-Wire Transmitter into 1756-IF16 Can I connect 3-wire Transmitter(24V,0V,4~20m Output) into 1492-AIFM8-F-5 (1756-IF16, Differential Mode) ?If possible, please let me know the wiring diagram. ### Assistant: Yes, you can do what is indicated in the image below... Channel 0 is shown... you have to use the 1492-ACABLExxxUD to connect the terminal board to the module. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help. I have one more question. Can I apply the connection diagram you informed to the both of current source transmitter and current sink transmmiter ? No, the connection is different... see Aid 28320 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk alarms and events to SMS I have a FactoryTalk SE network application. Dose someone know of an easy way to send the alarms and events to a mobile phone via SMS. ### Assistant: Matt, while SE does not have this feature, you may want to check out one of Rockwell's Encompass partners - Spectre Instruments. Win 911 does allow for alarm notification based on Factorytalk Alarms and Events. For more information, see the following sites: http://www.specterinstruments.comhttp://www.specterinstruments.com/pdf/Manuals/Current/FactoryTalk%20Alarms%20and%20Events.pdf P.S. There is also a Mobile version of Win 911. I haven't seen that, but there is information on the website. Thanks JonathanNot only dose the SMS but will be able to incude email. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Task and routine descriptions Hi All, I'm new to logix. Can someone tell me how to increase the maximun size of the task and routine descriptions? Thanks, Jim ### Assistant: Here from the RS5000 online help: In the Description field, enter a description of the task.This description cannot exceed 128 characters. If you try to enter more than 128 characters, the system notifies you and it ignores the extra characters. Do you need more than 128 characters ? Or just the problem is another ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF40 Fault Masking Hi all, The Application is a Fire System in a Hotel where in the PowerFlex 40 is used to drive the Exhaust Fan, Now below is the scenario.During Power switch over from main supply to Genset the time elapsed may vary from 5 to 15 seconds, if the switch over is 15 or more there is no problem for the drive since it was totally off.But if the switch over is within the time when the drive Display a Under Voltage Fault and the Power resume, the fault will remain and the drive cannot run. Then this will be the problem, since this is now an emergency situation.Is there any feature of the Power Flex 40 which we can mask this particular Fault. Or Any recommendation pleased help. ### Assistant: This is a known behavior, and you may proceed either: 1. Manually Reset with the stop button on the drive2. Reset via a Digital Input / comm card3. Remove the power long enough to let the drive going completely off.4. Automatically clear the fault through the AutoRestart parameter ... you will need to setup parameter A092 (Auto Rstrt Tries) to a value other than 0 and parameter A093 (Auto Rstrt Delay) to 0. This will attempt to reset any resettable fault immediately. See User Manual - page 3-29 for further details... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SOE Is there any solution for SOE application in 1756 or 1794 system? ### Assistant: Hi cfhung, really not an expert on that, just I may suggest the following to start: ControlLogix SOE modules User Manual Aid 29954Aid 24898 P.S. what about your previous threads: LINK 1LINK 2 :smileytongue: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: problems connecting to SLC5_03 Please help me. I do not know what cable I need? For the online connection between my PC and SLC5/03 CPU (1747-L532). ### Assistant: If you want to connect it over the RS-232 port, then you will need a 1747-CP3... see Aid 40972 for pinoutIf you want to connect to the DH-485 port, preferred solution would be the 1747-UIC Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Alex1000 wrote: Please help me. I do not know what cable I need? For the online connection between my PC and SLC5/03 CPU (1747-L532). Thanks a lot You're welcome... hope to *see* you again at the Forum ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problems to choice of batteries and memory for SLC5/03 Please help me. DO NOT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BATTERY AND WHAT TYPE OF MEMORY IS REQUIRED FOR SLC5/03 CPU (1747-L532)? ### Assistant: Battery : 1747-BAOptional Memory : 1747-M13 Reference : Selection Guide Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problems DH-485 port and RS485 port Please help me. DH-485 port is similar and compatible with RS485 port? ### Assistant: Alex, RS485 Standards only specify electrical characteristics of the driver and the receiver. - Electrical signal characteristics such as voltage levels, signaling rate, timing and slew-rate of signals, voltage withstand level, short-circuit behavior, maximum stray capacitance and cable length. - Interface mechanical characteristics, pluggable connectors and pin identification. - Standard subsets of interface circuits for selected telecom applications. - Functions of each circuit in the interface connector. - It does not specify or recommend any data protocol. Protocols are a set of programming rules for interpreting the signals transmitted over the physical link by nodes. DH485 (Protocol) - 11 Data Bits - is a Half-Duplex, Peer-to-Peer, Token Passing Protocol - typically DOES NOT work with Modems or standard USB-to-RS232 Adapters > Settings; - Node Address - Baud Rate (typically 19200 or 9600) So, the channel 1 port over a SLC-5/03 is electrically RS-485 standard, the protocol used is DH-485 See also the following links: LINK 1LINK 2 LINK 3 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic I put this question because I have a ADAPTASCAN2755-SN3 and I want to replace it with another scanner that has RS485 communication port.This ADAPTASCAV 2755-SN3 is connected to DH-485 port to SLC5_03 by 1747_AIC Alex, as indicated in my previous post, RS-485 in not enough as specification to select a new barcode reader... you will need to find out one that supports DH-485 protocol, as Adaptascan does, to connect to the 5/03 CH1 port, still through AIC or other interfaces. - fuzzy logic I understand. is required to use a scanner with DH-485 Thanks a lot n"}
{"text": "### Human: rsview 32 clashes with wincc flexible 2008-reg Dear All, Recently we are working in an project using rsview32 version 7.40. simultaneously we installed wincc flexible 2008 software for one of our new project. rsview32 doesnt opens once we installed wincc flexible the message was wrong version of microsoft jet engine library is there any possibility to make both softwares work in same system. ### Assistant: Probably Wincc flexible installs a different .dll version of MS Jet Engine... Try what is indicated inside Aid 31486... I don't know if then the error will *move* to the opening of Wincc... just save the actual .dll file to return to the actual situation if the solution will fail... I don't know if they can *cohabit* on the same PC. - fuzzy logic Krishna,The best way I've found to have Siemens and Rockwell reside on the same physical computer is to make two separate operating systems. One for Rockwell and one for Siemens and use something like Acronis to swap systems. We found that Siemens software in general is very unfriendly with Rockwell software. It can be done if you are willing to put up with an unstable operating system and application software. Just not worth it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Windows-Delayed Write Failed errors when saving RSLogix files over Network It doesn't happen all the time but I keep getting Windows Delayed Write Failed errors when saving my RSLogix files over my network connection,particularly worse on some of the larger project files. Our PLC files reside on a server on a seperate Control network along with all our PLC Devices. The terminal at my desk resides on the business network and has a clever patch through the servers to allow access to the network. (I would prefer dual NIC's but this is what our IT dept. has gratiously allowed us.) I am able to open all .ACD files on the server from my desk and go online with them but have limited ability to save the projects if I make changes regardless if I am working with a copy or not. Rather than get the usual, another copy is open, I get the windows delayed write fail alarm and a corrupted copy of the file on the server which then has to be recovered from a previous version. PITA!!! I have tried increasing my SystemPage value from 7b000 (503,808) to b71b0 (750,000) with no noticed improvements. My IT guy is not familiar with Rockwell Software to advise and doesn't believe it's a network or server issue so here I am. I have had this issue on a terminal on the control side as well so he may very well be right. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, hopefully I am not the only one who has experienced this. ### Assistant: I've seen in the past this error, but was related to a removable USB drive, so I think isn't a big help for your issue... I've tried to google this error message, and seen so many others who has the same issue... just I want to indicate you a couple of articles that could be a strting point for your troubleshooting... I guess it is not related to RS5000 though... LINK 1LINK 2LINK 3 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Yes, they were a good starting point. I too found those same articles and had already worked thru them with no resolution long before posting here. The only thing I love more than Technical Forums is Google. lol. It may also be worth mentioning that I get similar problems with corrupted applications when trying to save Intouch Applications from the same terminal. I don't get the same Delayed Write Fail error but It nets the same results and is equally as frustrating. I do not wish to recreate that scenario just for a screen shot of the error codes to refresh my memory though. Just take the time to see these other links... maybe you've already seen them, but seem interesting... :smileysurprised: LINK 4LINK 5 - (LINK 6) - second one only for screenshots :smileytongue:LINK 7 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Those last links were some new info; Link 7 was the most interesting of that last lot, and while it didn't provide the solution, it did lead me down a path to find this. I am now more than convinced that it is indeed a server issue and am also armed much better to go back to my IT dept for a solution. I'm happy for that ! :smileyhappy: Please take the time to post again if you have some news on the matter... it will be for sure useful for all of us...:smileywink: Thanks, - fuzzy logic Problem solved!! This time I had enough proof that my IT guy had to listen. Turns out i was on a fairly loaded server and was getting collision errors, he swapped my connection over to a dedicated server for our Engineering dept and the problem went away. When we looked into this before, the server did not log any errors even when the events occurred. Strange, but all's well that ends well. Well done ! :smileyhappy: Thanks for you feedback ...and Kudos ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to reset motion instruction error? For example, if MSO instruction's error bit has been set for some reson, how to reset or clear it in PLC without drive or PLC power recycle? ### Assistant: Please try to take a look first to the Motion Instructions Reference Manual - Chapter 1 (Motion Concepts) about the behavior of the .ER bit in motion instructions... Then, please post again if you have further questions... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Communication problem PV300 Please help me! I have a PV300 PanelView 300 Keypad Terminal , 2711-K3A2L1 RES. B with DH-485 port. What cable and modem I need to Download and upload the OP program to the PC? ### Assistant: You will need a 1747-UIC to connect it to the PC... This protocol (DH-485) typically doesn't work over modem, but I may have misunderstood your question.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 700S F129 We have two VSDs (PF 700S) that are configured for sugar centrifugals we are using here at our factory. Both applications run with and active regeneration units,(1336 R) which activate when slowing the centrifugal down after its high speed cycle. Both machines have been running well for approximately 8 months with no problems.Today for no reason one of the machines VSD stopped on a fault F ### Assistant: Hi, the Fault F129 *is* in the manual, page 4-11 ....:smileywink: It is just an indication that the Faults have been cleared... just check if F11 is an old indication or it maybe the cause of your stop... Anyway the Green status led just indicate the drive is ready to work ..., so right now no faults are present... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy; i am a twit, never even read through the clients mail to see the green light part, could not pick up the code in our manual, downloaded the latest manul from the web an found the code there, will let you know what the client says. Crazy friday afternoon in SA. thanks for the speedy reply. n"}
{"text": "### Human: DF1 - Protocol Command Set I am writing an application with VB6. I want to read and write N7 files onto my 5/03 PLC.The comm setup is COM 5, 9600, 8,n,1I have the DF1 Protocol Comment Set manual, but i don't find the documentation very clear on how to send ASCIIinstruction in order to read and write to the N7 files.anyone has done that ?is so, anyone have code example or good documentation that explain the command properly? thanks, MArk ### Assistant: Mark, a lot of informations here: http://forums.mrplc.com/index.php?showtopic=11323 Take also a look to the DF1 protocol User Manual and tecnote 27504 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLX manual startup Hello all the forum gurus. Need some small advice on softlogix startup. Anyway to startup softlogix manually when PC boots up. I have tried to find the services inside Control panel/Administrative tools/services panel but to no avail. It is slowing down my PC bootup drastically. It would be good if it have something like the RSlinx launch control panel whereby u can start Rslinx manually. Thanks!!!!! ### Assistant: Unfortunately this isn't possible, preventing the softlogix chassis monitor from starting automatically is not a recommended procedure. :smileysad: See also Aid 9106 - fuzzy logic Wow, that is a fast one. Thks. :smileyhappy: You're welcome ! Hope to be able to help you more, next time .... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 3-wire Transmitter Problem Hello fellows... I have wired 3-wire transmitter to 1756-IF16 module as below diagram.But, It does not work.... I guess the reason is that transmitter did not use DC power of PLC Panel.Please solve this issue and let me know the wiring diagram anyone who knows the reason. Thanks. ### Assistant: Does the transmitter have a sinking or sourcing output transistor in it? The way you have wired the module it has a sinking resistor. This will require a sourcing transistor in the transmitter. Look at Publication 1756-UM009B-EN-P - June 2003 Page 4-14 for the circuit for the inside of the module. Put the loop resistor that is in the module in your diagram. Next put the transmitter's output transistor in your diagram. After that I think you will see what is happening. One other possibility, this module may have differential inputs but they are not isolated from each other. If there are multiple supplies then in all the grounding there is a chance that you have exceeded volt clamps in the module. You need to check how all the supplies are referenced to each other. Maybe the answer is in this other thread (also created by you, hd :smileywink: ) - fuzzy logic The thread referenced Aid 28320. This has a pdf in it that is suppose to explain things. I do not think the pictures the pdf explains anything. They need a simplified view of the transmitter showing wheather the output is either a sinking or sourcing transistor. The pdf does not even show the loop resistor in the control panel. No wonder he is asking the same question agian. Attached is the revised aid. It is still not a good explantion but at least it is better. see 1756-UM009B-EN-P and decide whether its single ended..differential .. voltage or current.. they are all different wiring. and of course where power is derived from. Odd that original posters diagram shows voltage transmitter but says current on the input card side. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can I extract a PV550 Application and edit using Panelbuilder 32? I can open a .pba file which I have as a back up but I wanted to make sure I was going to edit the exact copy that was stored in the PV, I get an error message saying error reading application file, file cannot be loaded. I had saved the extacted appliaction as a.pva file, Is this like the panel view pus where you may not be able to open up the run time file and edit it or should you be able to suck a program from a PV550 and then edit it. The firmware version of the PV550 is V4.2 Firmware and V2.06 Boot. Any help appreciated as its the first time I have used this software (or about to use it) Thanks John ### Assistant: John, you may want try the following, if not already done; copy the .pva file to the default applications folder... typically it is: c:program filesallen bradleypanelbuilder 32applications This error is usually seen when the directory path to file is too long. (Which is the version of your PB32 ? ) Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic The error can also mean the app was saved specifically without the ability to upload it back out of the PV550. Many OEMs do this as a way to copy-protect their work. Then again, it can also mean the PVA file is partially corrupted and can't be recovered. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Temporary Data Acquisition for SLC-5/04 Looking for a way of collecting data from a SLC-5/04. Approximately 6 integer tags plus a timestamp. Would like to be able to read the data in Excel. ### Assistant: Hi, verify that you have the Rslinx professional or gateway, etc., but not lite version of rslinx, the lite version does not allow export or import data using DDE (Dynamic Data Exchange). In your excel application cell write this: =RSLINX|ROS!'S:4,L1,C1' As you can see the register S:4 is the free running clock.The name ROS represents the topic, go to the rslinx to create the topic, there you will select the PLC available. Let me know if you get something. good luck Thanks for your help unfortunately I need a little more. Is there a way to populate the cells? You must have a licensed version of RSLinx (not Lite). Open RSLinx and create a topic for the PLC (assumes you can already communicate to the PLC in with RSLinx):1. Click DDE/OPC on the menu bar.2. Click NEW at the bottom left. A new topic will appear with the name NEW_TOPIC selected. Type a new name to overwrite it with something more meaningful.3. In the right pane, select the data source by expanding the driver(s) if necessary to locate your PLC.4. Click the Done button. 5. In RSLinx, click Edit on the menu bar and select Copy DDE/OPC link.6. Click the + symbol next to RSLinx OPC Server to expand the list of topics.7. Find your topic name and expand it also.8. Expand the online data files to find the address you wish to monitor.9. When you find the address you want to monitor in the right pane, click it, and the data table address field at the bottom will be populated. Click okay.10. In Excel, right click on a cell and hit paste special. Then choose the Paste Link option. Now excel should show the data from the SLC at the default update rate of the topic. You can copy and paste that cell and then go in and edit just the address portion as a faster method of creating more links. There are other things you can modify to control the rate that excel updates the cells, or grab a group of contiguous addresses with one link. Now, getting the timestamp, and recording the data can be done in a variety of ways. You can basically choose the somewhat simple and most reliable method of modifying the SLC program to record values for you. If the SLC can't be stopped to expand data tables, or is not capable of holding all the values you need for the period you require, then you'll need to look into scripting with VBA in excel to do the sampling. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RTC setting for an SLC503 Hi all,I'm trying to set the RTC with RS500 for an SLC503 but the file format ### Assistant: SLC-500 controllers use the ordinary Status file for the Real-Time Clock, which is built into the controller. Click on the Processor Status icon under the Controller folder in the project tree to see the status elements that correspond to the controller clock. Micrologix controllers use the new extended datatypes for things like the RTC module and onboard interrupts and high-speed functions. Thanks Ken,I know where to find it. The matter is that the RS500 rel. 5.50 is refusing the instruction when using #RTC.HR, as example, when trying to overwrite the hours, for the daylightsaving.Do I need a newer release or also a newer release doesn't solve the matter ?Thanks gallo, as Ken wrote, there isn't this Data Type (RTC) inside SLC controllers ... :smileysurprised: You have to read/write directly to the Status file S:2; i.e. to access Clock / Hours, you have to access word S:40. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error Opening Tag Database from Objects Hi, I am using Factory Talk View Studio Release 5.0 with Build Number 55. When i insert an object, go to its properties, then click on Tag i am not getting the tag database property. When i try to go through the expression editor and click the tags i getting an error popup. i have attached the error with this message. Kindly help me sort out this issue. RegardsGopal ### Assistant: Try the following: Shutdown View Studio and run the following commands at a command prompt: 1. regsvr32 C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSView EnterpriseSETagBrowser.dll 2. DIBServer.exe /regserver - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Parameter Files & Literals Can I pass a literal that's not a string using a parameter file? For example, I have a button with a color animation. If the expression evaluates to 0, the color will be red. If the expression evaluates to 1, the color will be green. I'd like to set the expression to ### Assistant: Assuming you're asking about View SE.... :smileysurprised: Assigning a constant value in the parameter file will not work...my suggestion is to create two memory tags, i.e MemOff and MemOn with Initial Values respectively Off and On. Then your parameter file should contain something like either #1 = MemOff or #1 = MemOn Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I assume you are talking about SE here. Parameter files only support passing of tags, not constants. The only way I can see doing what you want to do is: Set a memory tag to some value prior to displaying the graphic and pass that memory tag as a parameter.For applications where that might not work (as in multiple instances of that screen open at the same time), you could use VBA. VBA does not care if the parameter is a tag or not, so you could have it read the value and set the color of the object. See tech note 26950. Syntax might look something like this:If Me.TagParameters(1) = red Then Polygon1.BackColor = vbRed Yes, I'm using SE ... Thanks for responding guys ... after posting up my question, I came across the same solution. I was trying to avoid using VBA and tags altogether, but seeing as it's only a few memory tags, I think I can make an exception. Thanks again! n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF70 and Purge feature Greetings, Is it possible to set the purge feature up on an effluent tank so that if there is a failure of the float valve to the PLC; that the drive can go into purge mode to switch on at a high level limit switch and off at a low level limit switch? I have a customer wanting to set something similar up in a Wastewater treatment plant, but they also want to be able to go into manual control mode as well. Any suggestions are welcome. ### Assistant: Hi, just a question.... how do you want to control the drive in automatic mode (I mean the start and reference control) ? - fuzzy logic Since your hard limits are defined by level limit switches, you make the condition to turn on (high level) and latch in the drive to run. The condition to turn off would be either an operator to stop or the low limit to drop it out. Hi fordtt, That's what my customer would be looking to do; use a lower limit switch to shut the drive off. Hi fuzzy logic, My customer's Automatic Control will be via a Logix (RS5000) processor on Ethernet. I think that I did come up with (with help) a solution that will allow for my customer that will allow for him to have the various control, by using a PF70 drive and its full range of programming features. Thanks for the help guys kudos to both. Cheers. Ok, thanks for your feedback, just it will be useful to know how you've solved it.... :smileywink: My idea was to connect the limit swithes like indicated in the screenshot below; normal automatic control from network comm card, emergency manual control using 3 wires scheme (when tank is empty, the Low limit switch closes and will start the drive, when the tank is empty the High limit switch will open and stop the drive) It is just an idea.... there are some other things to consider, i.e. the needs to bypass the High Level LS when in Automatic mode, otherwise the drive would not start... and also to open the connection from the Low Level LS in Auto mode to avoid unwanted starts... :smileytongue: this could be obtained using an Auto / Manual selector switch... - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy, Believe it or not, what I was looking at doing was very similar to what you were suggesting... What I had gone with (along with help from others) is this; Auto mode from PLC control; use Purge mode for the hi / low level swithes and Speed select 2; and then as a third option (customer request) manual / hand mode (we plan on having an HOA configuration included). So, in full auto mode, PLC is controlling drive speed and tank level via level sensor; in auto mode, but with failed level sensor, PLC puts drive into Purge mode, and then we still have the option to go to manual / hand mode via selector switch on front panel of drive panel. In this mode, the drive can be controlled via start, stop and POT for speed reference. The third mode is only used in extreme situations, of near catastrophic controller failure. I don't really have anything properly drawn up to share, but I hope from my brief description above it is enough to go by. Have a good one,Cheers :smileyhappy: Thanks to add your comments and ideas.... really appreciated. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel View Plus 1000 Can a live videow feed be viewed with a panel view and if so how ? ### Assistant: Depends on the platform you are using. Is this a computer, a PV+ or a PVCE? If you are running on a computer or PanelView Plus CE, see tech note 40078 for instructions on how to use a WebBrowser ActiveX to view images from a camera. If you are just wanting to display some media file, as in some pre-recorded video file you want to play using something like Windows Media Player, I don't think there is a way to do that. Hi Johnathan I cannot access the technote is there another way you can send me the info please. That's strange because if you're seeing this thread, you do have a TechConnect contract... try to use this LINK, otherwise ask a Moderator here to check your profile / account. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic we do have a contract but it still doesnt work on that link :( :smileysurprised: Last chance... http://rockwellautomation3.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/40078 - fuzzy logic Nope :( If you want send me you e-mail address via Private Message here in the Forum, I can send you back the technote... - fuzzy logic aint my day !!! got a conflict with you and someone else with the same name and it just locks into a loop when i try and message you Something is getting better.... I've just sent you the e-mail.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Just forwarded a kudos to JonathanKent as the suggestion comes from him... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 100 - DeviceNet Is anyone ever faced problem during download to network (DeviceNet) and had error message code  EDS 2011. The error message description as follow: Node 4 communication error (0xC)'Error response received: Device state conflict.; SCIA(0x10, 0xF, 0x2D, 0x1), Param45 Thanks ### Assistant: This may be due to the drive being in an ENABLED state, as certain parameters can only be written to when the drive is DISABLED.The drive should be DISABLED either via terminal rail or Ultra Master software. The download can the be attempted again. - fuzzy logic I checked my copy of RSNetworx and Parameter 45 for an Ultra 100 is Encoder Lines. That definitely sounds like a parameter that cannot be set while the drive is enabled. Download to Network does not load any network-wide parameters in DeviceNet like it does in ControlNet. All it does is go through all the devices in the RSNetworx project and load their offline parameter values into the online devices. In my opinion, there should be several are you sure dialogs before this feature can be invoked. There are quite a few devices that can't have their parameters changed during certain operational or network modes, so those can't be included in a Download to Network series of downloads. Download to Network is also particularly dangerous if the offline project is incomplete or has old parameters in it. If you've gone online with a fresh RSNetworx project file but you have not uploaded from all the devices successfully, you will end up loading default parameters into any device that has been browsed but not uploaded. So be judicious in your use of the Download to Network feature. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSVIew23 I'd be very grateful if someone could please off some insight into why RSview32 Works is taking upto seven minutes to start up and also why when I enter a value into a numeric input field for an internal analogue tag the PC locks up and requires rebooting. ### Assistant: Try to take a look if Aid 36198 could help... also there is an old technote 6278 to check ... Otherwise, please indicate: RSView32 versionOS type and versionActivation type (FactoryTalk or Master Disk) - fuzzy logic Operating system on computer and service pack?? make sure you are doing maintenance at least once every 2 weeks... defrag the hard drive. If you are entering a tag value outside of or the wrong data type for a existing tag it may lock up. lock up is kind of subjective tho...blue screen or long access or hourglass or what?? n"}
{"text": "### Human: New Project I'm being asked to develop a low budget project to control the temperatures in two high temp areas. (7-900Deg)I'm looking for some sample configurations and programs to consider/evaluate. ### Assistant: With the little information provided, I'd suggest some stand-alone temperature controllers such as the Allen Bradley 900-TC series. To be honest though, I'd reach for an Omron controller first. The pricing is lower, in my experience. That's my fault. Sorry. Temp controllers are always a consideration. I believe management is looking for something a little prettier than that. Now if you know of a temp controller that can be interfaced possibly over E-Net with a HMI/small PanelView I believe that would be what they are looking for. I guess I'm fishing for someone that already has a proven remote Temp controll configuration in production. (I hate the thought of reinventing the wheel.) We have it, buy it, and use it, but Allen Bradley and low budget is an oxymoron. What do you have? Where do you buy it? How do you use it? I don't care if it's A.B. or brand X as long as it employs a HMI and can monitor and control 4 zones. Ok so my temp programs control aluminum billet ovens. SLC 500 J type probes. 8000 degree range. You have asked about way lower temps. You have not said if it is contact temp control or ambient. Do you need PID, (how fast is the change of temp needed) Tell us your application and desired outcome. Lots of temperature things I use a temperature controller. Lots of them have output ability. You have to spell it out for us. You never really say what your budget requirement actually is but take a look at http://www.omega.com for low cost controllers. The i-Series (CNi16, CNi8, CNi32) has ethernet capability with free software. If you're looking for a standalone option, Omega usually has the best for process control on prices. Aluminum :Melting Point: 660.37 °C or 933.52 K or 1220.666 °F) 8000 Degrees??? Aluminum billet ovens? Boy does your screen name fit!!! So, as long as you are in the industry. I'm looking for a solution, specifically, to control Single Cell Die ovens used to preheat Aluminum extrusion Dies. 700-900°F That would be an ambient application, No PID (Unless energy conservation would justify it) Moderate hysteresis would be acceptable, Electric heat source, HMI / Factory Talk Project with the ability to select and control up to 4 ovens. Would it take a SLC to do that?? I would prefer to keep the processor at a minimum... The Omega i-series with its Web Server abilities has my attention. If you're really open then Omega offers multi-loop controllers as well. If you're set on using a PLC with HMI, use CompactLogix for the PLC. The added instructions for function block programming will be a blessing. You can use a Panelview Plus (or any panelview for that matter) for the HMI. Since you aren't requring PID control, my recommendation would to check out the Omega line and use the autotune function in the controller. Works VERY well. Chip wrote: Aluminum :Melting Point: 660.37 °C or 933.52 K or 1220.666 °F) 8000 Degrees??? Aluminum billet ovens? Boy does your screen name fit!!! So, as long as you are in the industry. I'm looking for a solution, specifically, to control Single Cell Die ovens used to preheat Aluminum extrusion Dies. 700-900°F That would be an ambient application, No PID (Unless energy conservation would justify it) Moderate hysteresis would be acceptable, Electric heat source, HMI / Factory Talk Project with the ability to select and control up to 4 ovens. Would it take a SLC to do that?? I would prefer to keep the processor at a minimum... The Omega i-series with its Web Server abilities has my attention.I must be on drugs or something. For sure you would get a melt down, but clean-up would be easy. LOL You could easily do it with an SLC or Compact logix. Especially since it it electric heat.You would just need 1, 4 channel thermocouple card 4 J type thermo couples and very little logic.If you used a compact logix controller you could make 1 AOI and use it 4 times. Here is another option.http://www.watlow.com/products/software/silver_series.cfm n"}
{"text": "### Human: CPU Usage and Tasks Hi, I was wondering if anyone could shed a little light on the information presented in the Task Monitor Tool. I have an L61 CLX I am running a Continuous Task and a single Periodic Task which has a period of 60seconds. When I run the Task Monitor Tool is shows that the Periodic Task is consuming 94.11% (around that mark) of CPU and the Continuous Task consumes 0%. Now the periodic task runs for approximately 204uS after that I would have assumed that the CPU usage would have been handed of to NULL Task or Communications however it doesn't seem to be the case. Can anyone shed any light on this for me please. Cheers PS I can't figure out how to insert screen dumps in this post, when I do I will update the post. ### Assistant: The problem with designing such a Tool to calculate CPU utilization for a ControlLogix, FlexLogix or CompactLogix Controller is that the CPU is always at 100% because of the Continuous Task. It never stops executing and never has idle time.So the Tool is trying to Estimate CPU utilization based on the watchdog timer presets. It is also trying to figure which Tasks are accessed more frequently than others.Communications cards are different in that they can have idle time if they aren't handling any packets. So the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool will display actual CPU percentages for comms cards if they exist in the chassis.For more information on determining CPU Usage Percentages. see the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool HELP file or Answer ID 52108 Click Here For best results: Install and use version 2.3.4 of the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool.Click here to download Logix5000 Task Monitor v2.3.4 If you have an earlier version of the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool. Be sure to wait for the User Tasks to load, before switching to the other tabs. In the latest version you will have a more real time CPU utilization. Thanks Jamy appreciate the reply, I am back at work on Tuesday I will give the more up to date Task Monitor Tool a go. Actually, the continuous task does stop executing if the periodic task has a higher priority. The Continuous task by default (and cannot be changed) takes the lowest priority. If the only task is a continuous task, then you won't notice it but if a periodic task has a higher priority than the continuous, the periodic will interrupt the continuous to execute. If you monitor a specific task, you get the results of the processor when that task actually executes, not a running total of processor usage. When the periodic task executes, it may consume 94% of the processor time but only for 204 uS. If it was a true indication of your processor usage,then technically, your continuous task would never execute and your communications would be extemely slow or you'd get watchdog errors. KidPLC and all, fordtt is correct that any Periodic (or Event) Task has a higher priority than the Continuous Task and will interrupt it until complete. Periodic and Event Tasks also have higher priority than responding to comms requests (like from HMI, or MSGs from other controllers), so if the Periodic task is really taking 94% CPU, you would probably have very slow HMI comms, and RSLogix 5000 would respond VERY slowly, or even fall offline. The Task Monitor Tool gets its data from an object within the controller (like the other GSV/SSV objects, but not made available to the GSV instruction). This object collects data over a window that defaults to 500000 us (1/2 second). So every 1/2 second it publishes a summary of controller activities for the last window, then resets and waits 1/2 second collecting new data for the next report. Your Periodic Task executes every 60 seconds. In that 60 seconds, the object's Task data will be updated 120 times. 119 of those times, it should show the Continuous Task using any and all CPU not being used by messaging, I/O communications, responding to MSGs/HMI, safety tasks, redundancy, serial port comms, and all the other stuff that's monitored. If you don't have a ton of HMI activity, the Continuous Task should show more than 90% CPU. During that 1 time in 120 that your Periodic Task executes, the Task data will include non-zero data for your Periodic Task. If it really executes in 200-ish microseconds (not 200 milliseconds), then it would show 200 / 500000 * 100% or about 0.04% CPU. (A 200 ms execution would show 40% for that one capture in 120.) If you change the period of the Periodic Task to 500ms, you'll see that 0.04% in EVERY capture of task data -- then the Task Monitor Tool will be sure to see and display it. Let us know if the data reported by the updated tool make more sense. You should see 90+% Continuous (subject to comms, I/O, etc.) and ZERO percent Periodic, except for that 1/2 second capture every 60 seconds when the Periodic Task actually runs. Get back to us!Dale, W8ABZ Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies I appreciate it. I have today downloaded the latest Task Monitor Tool (2.3.4) and the new data, combined with the replies I have received, makes much more sense. I changed the periodic task period to 500ms and as W8ABZ calculated it does have a 0.03% cpu utililsation. The only thing that has not rung true is the 90+% usage on the continuous task it is quite low around the 1.3% mark. If I use the calc provide the percentage figure is correct. The program is running in a machine at the moment however I have the luxury of a test bench CLX L61 which I have down loaded the program to so I can play with it and modify the periodic task period as I please however since the test bench does not have a Panelview there is no HMI comms going on. Below is the screen dump of the test bench CLX with NO HMI comms Below is a screen dump of the running program in the machine WITH HMI Comms. NOTE: There will be slight differences in the scan time between the actual machine and the test bench as the test bench program has had programs and routines added for an upcomming machine upgrade. n"}
{"text": "### Human: firmware file ver 4.46 Hello, Where can I download the firmware file ver. 4.46 (or latest) for the PV300 mono? I have only found the file ver 4.41, thank you. ey. ### Assistant: Hi, I've attached the firmware files to this post... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF70ec DPI Comm loss fault 85 I have 8 Pf70ec drives connnected with 20-comm-e cards and one of the drives gives random a comm loss fault 85. Only one of the drives ever does this and it hasn't happened for about 2 months until today when it happened twice. All of the post I have read say this is uncommon for the comm-e card. So any suggestions would be great. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to this thread .... the problem could also happen on an Ethernet comm card, as this fault indicates that the main control board has lost communications with the 20-COMM-x... there are detailed explanations by Ken Roach about this fault. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Add-On error on UpLoad!!!! hi gurus!!!!, well my english isn't good!!! I create some block's or Add_On instrucction, in this routines we have In, Out data; but when I do an upload from other pc (in the my pc, I don't the problem) the Add-On show me in some field data this: 0.0.0.0 or 1.1.1.1, when this data is only 0 or 1. Any one help me!!! I have the RSLogix V17 ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ultra 3000 hardwire enable I have been wondering if the hardwire enable on the 3000 should be used with the sercos enable command ? If we use the sercos, servo on as the enable command for the drives, should the hardwire enable on the breakout board be used or not or should we leave all control to the sercos loop. I encountered a drive in this condition that would occasionally make a humming sound as it was waiting for a start and when the hardwire enable was removed from drive config and the breakout board this humming went away. There are a few others that do the same thing but I haven't had a chance to get at them. Any knowledge on this condition would be appreciated. ### Assistant: It is possible to control the enable of the Ultra 3000 SERCOS drive without having to connect 24 volts to the Drive Enable input (pin 31) of the CN1 connector. Using Ultraware, the Digital Input 1 is used for Drive enable. If the input is changed to unassigned, the drive will be enabled on power up. There will be no need for an input to pin 31 to enable the drive.Be aware that, in this case, the motor could start moving on power up. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply. I have an unique situation where we drive a piece of equipment with 2 servos connected by one chain. Occasionally when the machine is in a stop state, there is a humming noise coming from the two motors I was wondering if there was a conflict between the hardwire enable and the sercos enable. This usually happens when there has been an E stop condition, the e-stop is reset but the machine not started yet. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How many PC box's does it take to run FT view SE? Every where I look they recommend four PC's. Plus the clients. Why so many? 1- Hmi Server with FT view SE Server ### Assistant: Hi numbers, Technically you could put all the components on the same computer. SE Standalone is inherently a one computer solution. Regarding the recommendations for running various components on multiple computers, some of this depends on loading. If you have 10K tags and are using RSLinx Classic (or 20K tags and running RSLinx Enterprise), that's quite a load and it might be a good idea to run components on different computers. Running the FactoryTalk directory on a separate computer is mostly a matter of convenience - it allows you to reboot the FactoryTalk directory if you suspect a problem that requires a reboot. Multiple (non-redundant) HMI servers on one computer could be a problem depending on the overall load, though the Rockwell sample project shows 5 on one computer. And of course redundant HMI servers would require multiple computers. I've had projects that exceed these limits and Rockwell urges these to be blessed by the powers-that-be. I know there is a checklist of recommended limits - you might want to talk to Tech Support about that. One thing to remember is that the term server does not necessarily mean a hardware device. A server is typically a service that runs on a pc or actual server. The FactoryTalk server is basically a service that runs and can typically run anywhere. Running it on a domain controller isn't recommended though. If you use FTView SE Standalone then you will be limited in clients due to Microsoft Windows and not FTView. There are several ways to split up your system. You can use two standalone systems which will have to be configured separately or an enterprise (FTView SE) configuration. MY preference is use two identical server machines with Marathon Technologies virtual server for redundancy, FTView SE with unlimited display, and your two clients. The FT directory can be loaded on the servers with the HMI server if you want. The tags are based in the PLC and not necessarily HMI tags. We have several installations where the PLC tag count is over 15K without any problems. Take a look at answer ID 32549 for FT design considerations in a distributed system. This is the first place to look for planning a system. I would look a the answer this way. The minimum of boxes needed for FT SE Server system is 3.DNS ServerFT Server with FT Directory, SE Server, RS Linx, FT Studio, and FT ClientFT ClientNote that if you use Standalone you only need one box. When you jump to more than one client you need a DNS server somewhere in the system and it takes 3 boxes. The other answers did not mention the need for a DNS server. You could use the plants DNS server but I have found it is much, much better to have my own and be able to set it up as I need it. The DNS server is a really big part of the systems security. Also, it is surprising the CPU usage numbers on the system even for a small network. I also keep backups and all the install CD/DVDs on this computer since the hard drive is mostly empty. Next depending on loading and redundancy you can break up the FT Server. Considering the number of screens and tags you may or may not want to split the Client on the FT Server to a different computer. That is hard to estimate. I would probably try it first in the same box and see how it behaves. I would also purchase a spare at the same time I get the other PC's and have it ready incase. If you use the spare you can get another one later but you do not want the interruption if you find you need it while setting things up. Regarding the computers I would get them with RAID 1 drives. I would also have the drives installed in front removable cases. This will not cost that much more and give you an immense amount of freedom. I also get a few extra drives mounted in the shuttles. There is no better back up you can get than a bootable hard drive that is ready to plug in and run. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View SE Remote Display Number I have used RSView32 and FactoryTalk View ME extensively. However I am just getting my feet wet with SE. The issue I am having is that I cannot figure out how to have the PLC popup a screen in SE. In RSView32 I would use a WhileRunning Event. When a PLC bit was a 1 I would use the Display command to Popup the screen In ME I would use the Remote Display Number... In SE there is no Remote Display Number and when I try the Whilerunning Even it does not work. The FactoryTalk Diagnostic says Display cannot be initiated by a HMI Server. Any ideas? Is there a VBA script that runs constantly in the background? ### Assistant: Scott, try tech note 22007. You are correct that a VBA script is required to automatically pop up a screen in SE. Basically you use a numeric display to monitor the value of a tag. When the value of the numeric display = 1, you ExecuteCommand Display MyScreen. Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to find out where tags are used in an application Does anyone know how to find out which graphics a tag is used on? I have inherited a Factory Talk View project and would like to clean up the Tag database and remove any unused tags. I know how to do this on an PanelBuilder project. ### Assistant: Mad, have you used the Project Documenter yet? Depending on what version of Studio you have, you might have to install it. v5.1 - installed as part of the product installv5.0 - available as download from tech note 46928v4.0 and earler - not available The brute force way is to export to .XML - I sincerely hope you don't have to resort to that. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 40 faliure after power cycle We have 46 5 hp powerflex 40 drives in our plant and have had little trouble until the other day. We had a scheduled power outage with the power company they disconnected all phases at on time but repowered us one phase at a time. after that we noticed we had 7 drives that did not power back up and are fed from the same line as ones that did. we checked voltage at the drive line input and is fine. we are at a loss as what and why this has happened. ### Assistant: Hi Red, Perhaps those drives have failed due to a problem with the switchmode power supply. On some early PF4 and PF40 drives there were some components that were affected by heat a bit more than we expected and this problem showed up. We have since improved the design. There is a knowledgebase document that describes the issue. It is document number 34911. Only certain models of PF4 and PF40 drives had this issue, and only up to a certain date. Drives manuafactured after October 2005 have the improved design. Please contact your distributor for more information about this. Linkified for convenience - JHutch Thanks Jim for the post that sounds like something else I've read in the last couple of days. P.S.. Know of any one that had these repaired with success with out charge as it seems to be a known problem? Hi, yes, if it is determined that your drives fall into the date and catalog number range, as determined by your distributor, then these drives will be repaired. Glad I found this on the Forum, I couldn't find anything on the KB. Does anyone have any record of the same problem in AB MCC's? I have an installation with 60 drives all mounted in AB MCC's we've had approx 10 of these drives fail in the same manner as described in the KB document. Follow up to my last post on this topic. Worked with AB & Local Distributor, they agreed to repair 60+ drives in an AB MCC that was experiencing these problems and fell within the qualified time frame. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 70 I/O Configuration Hi. I am trying to enable manual control through a series of relays when turn the PLC off. I have the I/O configured for a 2 wire control mode. When the PLC is shut off, I have a relay contact sending a signal to Auto/Man. I have configured the paramters stated in the user manual for terminal block manual mode. When looking at the paramters & related bits...Manual Mode is 1, Enable is 1, Analog In is changing in relation to the POT input. But, there are no volts being output & the HIM is still saying AUTO. I think the HIM won't change to say MAN because I have control through the TB, but I cannot seem to get it to output the signal for motor motion. Please provide any suggestions. ### Assistant: Hi, you're right about the HIM, it will still indicate Auto if you've selected Man from TB Digital input. What about parameter 96 ? Did you select there the correct manual reference from Analog Input ? What about the status led on the drive ? And the HIM indications ? - fuzzy logic Thank you for replying and trying to help. Parameter 96 is set to Analog In 2. Parameters 90, 117, 128, 179 are set to Analog In 1. The STS on drive is flashing green & HIM states stopped. It seems ok, just it is waiting for a valid Start/Run command... - fuzzy logic Yeah, you would think so. But, when the input is sent to run, nothing is happening on the output. We are seeing a command reference +/- 60Hz & the analog input +/- 10. But no output occurs. Do you think the loss of power/communication to the DPI port could be triggering a paramter that is not showing as a fault, but inhibits running? Hmmm... Are you sure about the Run input ? When the input to Run is On, what is indicated on the HIM ? And what about the STS led ? Still seems to me it is just waiting this input... see also Aid 46161 and Aid 58269 - fuzzy logic When watching the digital input status Parameter 216. Our Run bit goes to 1 when pressing run button. The following is our I/O parameter settings: Dig 1=Unused, Dig 2=Run, Dig 3=Auto/Man (=1), Dig 4=Reserved, Dig 5=Unused, Dig 6=Enable (=1). I forgot to add that the HIM still states 'Stopped' & LED flashing green. Remember the run should be mantained in a 2 wire configuration... Also, if it still indicates Stopped, check and post the P214 status and P276/P277.... - fuzzy logic Run is maintained. P214 is as follows:xx0x000000000000Fault b00 P276 & 277 is as follows:xxxxxxxxxx1x1111 Question; you mentioned the power/communication loss as being a possible trigger. What settings do you have for Comm fault & Idle fault Parameters? If you are disabling your comms to test to see if the drive will go to manual from auto automatically then this could be triggering the stop command. Perhaps I misread something along the way, but to me that would be something to look into. Cheers Hi. I confirmed that 'Comm Flt Action' = 1 & Stop & 'Idle Flt Action' = 1. So that should stop any faults occurring upon loss of cimmunication. Would using a joystick for manual speed input +/-10V require any additional parameter settings that may be causing this problem? Hi again, Comm flt Action of Stop means that a stop command is sent to the drive. What you need to have it set to is Send Flt Config; you will also need to configure those parameters as well. What comms are you using? For Example, in a 20-COMM-E you would need to look at parameters 25, 26, and 27. Again, this is only necessary if you are looking to switch from Auto to Man automatically in the case of lost comms. Cheers Sorry, but I'm not sure about the joystick. But off the top of my head, I would say no. Hi. Thank you for replying. We are going to try & set the Comm Flt Action (P10) & Idle Flt Action (P11) on the 20-COMM-C to Send Flt Config. But, then we cannot figure out where to go from there? Do we have to set up a mask in a fault handling parameter in the drive? While you're checking on things ( I may have missed something in all the posts), check Par 598, bit 15 to make sure it's not a 1 to keep Par 276 from controlling the drive. Parameter 276 is the Owners Mask, and 277 is Start Mask. The masks should have bit 0, 1, and 5 set to a 1. Not having the masks set properly will keep the drive from starting/stopping irrespective of what the inputs tell it to do. Keep us posted on what you find. Hi. Thank you for staying with us. P598 bit 15 is 0. P276 has bit 0, 1, & 5 set to a 1. But, P277 keeps defaulting back to 0s. It will not accept a change to 1? I am going to look through the user manual for a possible explanation, while I wait for your response. Thank you. This would be a part of the problem. Also, check the other masks (parameters 278-285). You can also monitor the masks in parameters 289-297 to see which owner has control. Check the data links from your PLC (par. 300-307) and make sure parameter 277 isn't in any one of these which could overwrite your setting. Not sure why it would resort back to all 0's unless something else is writing over the setting. Without the proper ownership, the drive will only accept commands from the adapters that it's assigned to. Ok. We will check all these parameters & get back to you. Thx. P301 had 277 in it. We changed it to 0 which in turn allowed us to change 277 to DPI Port 5 & TB bits to 1. We have motion! Now we can continue. Thank you. :) Always glad to hear a forum success story....glad things are working now. Glad to hear that you had a solution... Cheers Thank you for your help too. I appreciate all the time taken to asssist me on this. Cheers. Nice ! ...good catch fordtt ! I was on the road when I've asked for P276 and P277 status, but answer was: P276 & 277 is as follows:xxxxxxxxxx1x1111 So it seemed ok.... :smileywink: Anyway I'm happy it is solved now, nice to see many users here to cooperate to help others ! Keep this up RA Forum's users ! :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Code 3, Type 16 error on start up - Kinetix 6K Sercos I am working on getting a new system up and running and I am having a few problems. I beleive once the first problem is fixed the other will go away. When the main circuit breaker is disconnected the PLC has a major fault on start up. The fault is a code 3, type 16. The fault is with the sercos module and the help file says to check electronic keying. The revisions do match. I even tried to disable the keying and this made no difference. Firmware in processor and sercos card match. I have tried to even re-flash each. The next problem is that I am having one of the four servos loose its position on start up. It goes to around -19,000 for a position on start up when it was at a position of 2. I do an absolute home with the all the servos and the absolute reference bit is staying set through the process. L61 with 4 Kinetix 6000 drives. Once the major fault is clear all works well untill main power is cycled. I was on the phone with tech connect this morning and no luck. Perhaps someone here has seen this problem before. ### Assistant: Duplicated thread, the original one is HERE. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Determine Application Size for a FactoryTalk View ME Project How can you determine the final size an application for a PanelView Plus created in Factory Talk View Studio? Is it the size of the .MER file or is there additional space that needs to be included? troy ### Assistant: If you're asking about the PVP's Flash Memory occupation: The same as the .mer file size. If you're asking about runtime memory usage: You should download your file to PVP and, starting from firmware 5, you may use the MERuntime RAM Usage Monitor.See Aid 39481 for details. You may also see the Memory Allocation in the PVP's Configuration Settings, System Information,Terminal Informations. The dimension of the .mer file itself isn't a good indicator of the runtime RAM usage of the application. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the input. My problem is that I am working offline developing a project without a physical PanelView Plus. I can run the project and make everything look nice, but am a bit worried by reading Knowledgebase articles that say the file really fluffs up (not the technical terms they use) once loaded into run time memory. The best response that I was able to get when talking with local support is that you have to load it see if it runs. If not you just upgrade the memory. That presents a bit of a problem if the first time you can get a real handle on operating size if it is at the factory acceptance test when you get the HMI. So the only thing I can do is try to get an HMI to load this into and see? Rockwell has not developed any offline tools for doing this? I'm afraid, I may understand your frustration, but I'm not aware of such an offline tool like you're searching for... :smileysad: Maybe JHutch does have other ideas about this issue ? :smileywink: - fuzzy logic JHutch do you have any ideas? No, unfortunately. Techsupport basically convered the only fool-proof method ... run it and see what happens. Basically, there are 2 factors at play. The first is that the MER file is a certain size and takes up a certain amount of storage memory. The PV+ has an internal compact flash card where MERs, fonts and log files get stored. If the MER file is too big, no joy. You might not be able to even load the MER, or it'll load, but when it runs, the log files go over the space limit and it slows to a crawl or crashes. The second factor is the memory usage (RAM). The MER file gets loaded into memory and then each screen is drawn as you use it. Depending on what is on the screens, the RAM may be just a bit more than the MER size or it could be DRASTICALLY more than the MER size. For instance, if you use jpeg files, they don't take a ton of space in a MER file. But at runtime, that jpeg gets expanded out to a 24-bit uncompressed bitmap when the display is shown. Now, it's using HUGE memory. The more objects/tags/etc used on a screen, the more memory that screen is going to chew up. Hope that explains the complexity of what you're asking for a little better. JHutch Thanks for the explanation, but doesn't all this have to happen when you click Test Application in the development environment also? I realize there are different operating systems and platforms that are being used and I don't know what all is going on behind the scenes when you are running the application out of the Studio instead of on target hardware. I don't think I'm going to have a problem, but I feel uncomforatble telling my boss that I can't really answer his question. We'll see what happens. Thanks again. Well, basically, like you said, it's the different OS and platform. And by platform, we also mean different CPU in some cases. For instance, the PV+400/600 are RISC based processors and the runtime code is slightly bigger than the same app running on a PV+700 and up. Also, Windows is notorious in being ridiculous vague about memory usage, so what Windows XP might report on your computer can vary quite a bit each time you run it. I wish I could be more helpful, but it's basically the nature of the beast on this one. JHutch Just released, Aid 64649 walk through the ME application and PVP memory considerations and suggestions to avoid system crash.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PF400 comms loss problem client has 4 x 250kW PF400 units with 22commD and 22Him3cs door mounted HMI. As soon as I plug the HIMM in, the drive trips on “Comms Loss”. Reset the drive, fault re-appears within a few seconds. Leave HIMM plugged out – no problem then. have flased the 22commD to latest firmware as we had simiular problem with profibus module. this time it is not the solution. Fuzzy lets sea how quick you are on this one ### Assistant: The HIM is actually powered from the same 5VDC as the 20-Comm-D module and plugging the HIM in has the initial potential to drop the voltage to the point the 20-Comm module loses communication until the HIM fully powers up. Try powering the drive down, install the HIM, and then power the drive back up to see if you again get an error. If you do, you may have a problem with the power regulator for the 5vdc....or a faulty HIM. The HIM should be able to be removed while the drive is in AUTO and not MANUAL mode while the drive is powered up. I'm agree with fordtt (he has been quicker than me this time ! :smileytongue: ) Just I want to add the following: If you set up the 20-COMM adapter for Multi-Drive operation, be aware DSI peripherals (22-HIM-*, 22-SCM-*, etc.) do not operate with the adapter in this mode; it should be in Single-Drive mode to use external HIMs. - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy; Fordtt did get ahead of you this time but thanks for the speedy reply, will give the info to our workshop and see if they can help the client. Regards Well as luck would have it I've actually been IN the office here lately...and the fact I'm only lucid for short durations at a time anyway.... n"}
{"text": "### Human: FlexPak 3000 Meter Out Signal Type I cannot find anywhere in any manual that I have looked at where it says what type of output the drive's Meter Out 1 & 2 are. Are they voltage? Current? Can we select which? They show that you can select what the analog outs are if you have the expansion board, but not the built in meter out (that I can find). ### Assistant: Here from the Power Module Instructoin Manual, page 2-6: Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Thanks.I didnt download the manual that you show in your post, only had a couple other manuals for flexpak 3000. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk View Project Documentor I downloaded and installed the FactoryTalk View Project Documentor Utility that was discussed in an earlier thread. When I try to run the application I get the following error message - The application or DLL C:RSICMNideutl.dll is not a valid Windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette. Has anyone else encountered this or know how to fix it? PC OS is XP Professional. ### Assistant: This sounds like a Windows path sort of thing. I'll bet that you have more than one of those .DLLs and the one that the Project Documenter is finding is the wrong one. This .DLL should be located in C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSView Enterprise. Edit the PATH environment variable and change the order of the folders in the PATH variable so that the C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSView Enterprise path is hit before C:RSICMN. It's worth a try, at least. Thanks Jonathan Kent!That worked perfectly. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Bootp- socket connect problem I am trying to connect a already programmed control logix L 63 controller through 1756 ENBT/A ethernet I/P module. The ethernet module display scrolls some IP address but, if I try to connect to the module directly i am not able to connect to the controller. Even I am not getting reply from host when I ping with that IP address.I used a UTP cat5e straight cable, is there any wrong with this type cable or should i use a cross cable. I tried to set a new IP address using BOOTP server but I got the error socket connect problem. Please help. ### Assistant: Maybe you can try to check firewall and disable VPNs or another NICs... A straight UTP cable is fine, you can also try to use a cross cable, but normally this won't make any difference. The only thing I can think of are things like VPN protocols who are still enabled like (SecuRemote) or that your subnetmask is wrong. Using BootP will probably not help cause it is very sensitive to things like Firewall and other security in Windows. The best thing you can do is make a serial connection to the controller and check the settings of the ENBT through the backplane. aravindkumar, Please write back and let us know more about the connection you are trying to make. Are you connecting a cable directly from the Ethernet adapter on your PC to the ENBT? If so, you will probably need a crossover cable. When you make your cable connection(s), does the LINK LED on the face of the ENBT light up? If not, you are using a straight cable when you need a crossover, or vice versa, or if you are using an Ethernet switch, it's not powered up or you are connecting to the UPLINK port when you should be connecting to one of the other ports. The LINK LED not lit means the ENBT doesn't see the right signals on the 8-pin connector, and no dinking with addresses and such will make it work. <From this point on, I'm going to assume you have limited knowledge about TCP/IP and how IP addresses work. If you have a good understanding of subnets, gateways and IP routing, you can ignore the rest of this and just re-check your settings.> Please let us know the Ethernet port settings on your PC. (You can get this information by opening a Command Prompt window and typing ipconfig /all (enter). This will let you know the IP address, netmask and gateway address you are using. (If your PC has multiple network adapters, it gets more complicated.) The IP address of the PC NIC (adapter) you are connecting to and the IP address of the ENBT need to be within the same subnet. Here's an example:ENBT IP address = 192.168.101.10ENBT subnet mask = 255.255.255.0 (a VERY typical value) This means your PC should use an address that starts with 192.168.101. If you look at the subnet mask as a set of 32 bits, the first 24 bits are 1, so the first three bytes must match for the addresses to be on the same subnet. The last 8 bits are 0, so the last byte (number after the last dot) can be anything except 10 (because that's the ENBT's address), and should be between 1 and 254 (0 and 255 are usually reserved for broadcast and network-related stuff, I just avoid them.) And the PC subnet mask should be the same as the ENBT subnet mask. (Yes, I know you can't SEE the ENBT subnet mask scrolling -- but you can usually assume it is only as restrictive as the value above -- 255.255.255.0.) If the PC IP address were 192.168.102.11 (with the same subnet mask), when it tries to connect to 192.168.101.10, it will see a difference in the part of the address identified 1s in the subnet mask and assume that the ENBT is on a different subnet. So it will send the message to the gateway for routing to the other subnet. If you're just connecting a crossover cable from your PC's NIC to the ENBT, this won't work. Neither will Automatically configure my network settings because there's no BOOTP or DHCP server on your little cable network to provide the settings (and the ENBT doesn't provide this function). So an easy way to set it up if you are just using a crossover cable, or an isolated Ethernet switch and a couple of straight cables, is to set the PC IP address to be ONE different from the ENBT address (in the above case, 192.168.101.11) and set the netmask to 255.255.255.0 -- leave the gateway address blank (or, if you have to set it, set it to 192.168.101.1. If .1 is used by the ENBT or the PC, just use some other number.) One reason I have a separate PCCard Ethernet adapter in my notebook is so I can dink with its settings for doing stuff like the above, without messing up my main connection to the company network. I hope that was understandable. For more help, just let us know the hardware setup you're trying to use (crossover cable, switch with straight cables, whatever) and the IP addresses of the ENBT and the PC, and we'll let you know the next step. Hope this helped! And I didn't mean to be condescending -- I just don't know what your experience level is with setting up IP addresses and subnet masks and such. I assumed a low level..... Apologies if I assumed wrong. Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Remote Time in Control Logix At our site we have a control logix 1756-L61 processor and two Panel View plus 1000 units connected via eithernet. These were part of a compressor package. The engineer who wrote the package program is suppose to have set the time up so that when the time is set from either one of the panelview's it will change the time of the processor and the other panelview to synch them. I understand there is a global connection in the panelviews for time and think they are setup correctly. The time does change on each of the panelviews but not the processor. In the processor program under the folder program tags I do see remote time. It is setup as DINT7. There is a registers for time change, the year, minutes, etc. When the time is changed on the panelview and is the pushbutton is enabled the correct time and date does show up in these values, but the processor time does not change. Is something setup wrong? Is there also a way to have the panelviews look at a register once an hour or something and synch the time with the processor if it is off? I can send screen captures of the configuration of the processor or panelview screen's if needed. Thanks,Glen ### Assistant: Hi I have just had this problem on a Pv600+. You need to copy the WallClockTimeDate in Logix to DINT array 7 words long using the GSV instruction. This accesses the internal clock in the PLC. You also need to write a bit if code in the PLC that sets a digital flag for say 1 second every minute - this is your update flag for the PanelView. In the PanelView + you go to GlobalConnections - use the values in the DINT array above as necessary for minute hour etc.Then in the GlobalConnections there is a control flag that has to go from 0 to 1 to force the internal clock in the PanelView to be updated from the PLC. Use the adress of the digital flag you configured above for the control. I set the digital flag once a minute & it works fine now. Good luck GMVick, It sounds like your time values are getting to the processor from the PVPlus, so now all you need to do is a SSV command to send the DINT[7] values into the CLX WALLCLOCKTIME. example n"}
{"text": "### Human: Adding an Endress Hauser Fieldgate & instruments into Logix. I am evaluating the E&H Fieldgate wireless HART system and I am unsure how the Fieldgate gets into Logix. Do I have to get an add-in for Logix to be able to add the Fieldgate to the configuration in the Logix system tree? If so, where would I find the file to add? Thanks.Steve ### Assistant: There are various HART protocol cards.. depends what processor platform you are using http://search.rockwellautomation.com/search?site=main_all&client=main_fe&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=main_fe&q=hart will yield numerous product for interface. You should be able to download the EDS file from E-H to be able to access the Fieldgate gateway. All wireless transmitters will go through the gateway to get on ethernet. You may have to add the gateway as a generic ethernet/ip module and configure it from any info from e-h. Endress is a Rockwell partner so there should be something existing to make this happen. Steve, Here's what I have as the official word as of today (I would guess dates are estimated, subject to change, etc.): The First release of E+H Wireless gateway planned for Jan 2010 will not be integrated into Logix. This release is for data acquisition only - no control.An EtherNet/IP version of the gateway is planned for later in 2010 (maybe even early 2011). The EIP version will include a Logix Add-On Profile for integration.The first release of the gateway will be demonstrated in the Process Booth at Automation Fair. So I guess you'll want to see what's at Automation Fair (R). Dale, W8ABZ Try Phoenix Contact which has wireless I/O for analog and digital. They have some freeware at http://www.phoenixcontact.com/eip to help configure the wired and wireless stuff. Emerson also has some wireless HART but it's mainly for easy integration into their AMS software or DeltaV. Most of the wireless HART we're seeing isn't fast enough for control anyway...update time >4 sec. and actual distances are shorter than advertised. The Phoenix stuff is quite impressive and works well. If you find an alternative, post it back and let us know. Would be interesting to find out. Ok...here's another one to try http://www.automation.com/content/wireless-hart-multidrop-communication-gateways from Prosoft. We're familiar with Prosoft and they have a wireless hart gateway that might prove helpful. Thanks for the reply. Our Endress rep brought in an Endress factory guy to show us the wireless HART gateway and adapters. We are in urgent need of a system that does what they claim theirs will do. They said that the equipment is in production and it is installed in some areas with good results. I requested to go to the Automation Fair to see the demo that Endress will be doing but my high speed management team doesn't think that spending $900 for me to go is worthwhile. I am working on a project that will be over $200,000and they are perfectly willing to buy the stuff sight unseen and rely on the vendor's pitch. But I'm just the guy that will be integrating the system into our control system, what do I know? I will probably foot the bill myself and go to the fair on my own dime and time. Some of my questions were above the factory guy so I'm trying to get all the info I can. Thanks. Steve I definitely wouldn't foot the bill myself but insist on a more technical presentation from the rep. ..SURELY he has contacts. Nothing like being on the bleeding edge of technology. Let us know what you find out. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How Hard Are They Laughing? Token Expired Ha Ha, you got me again ABI already found the fix in the knowledgebase - this is just my rant. It must be really hilarious to those developers in Milwaukee to put in a 1 hour token expiration time as default and then allow you to go merrily along editing a display after the token has expired while only putting a warning in the status window (which you tend to keep minimized when you are editing a display). What? Did these guys have to find jobs as software developers when we closed down Sadam Hussein’s torture rooms? This kind of stuff is the reason why I always recommend Maple Systems and only use the PanelView+ if I’m forced to with a gun to my head. ### Assistant: Actually, the default is now no timeout. In older versions, it was 12 hours. No version ever, to my knowledge, defaulted to 1 hour timeout. Somebody had to have done that manually in your case (though very likely it was a mistake). JHutch I've encountered the same problem JHutch. Infuriating. I don't know how to change it, let alone set the timeout. So what is the knowledgebase IDs associated with this problem? I think it is ID 37434 and ID 32566 which talk about changing the security policy in the FT Admin Console. Yep, that's the info I was thinking of. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Code 3, Type 16 error on start up - Kinetix 6K Sercos I am working on getting a new system up and running and I am having a few problems. I beleive once the first problem is fixed the other will go away. When the main circuit breaker is disconnected the PLC has a major fault on start up. The fault is a code 3, type 16. The fault is with the sercos module and the help file says to check electronic keying. The revisions do match. I even tried to disable the keying and this made no difference. Firmware in processor and sercos card match. I have tried to even re-flash each. The next problem is that I am having one of the four servos loose its position on start up. It goes to around -19,000 for a position on start up when it was at a position of 2. I do an absolute home with the all the servos and the absolute reference bit is staying set through the process. L61 with 4 Kinetix 6000 drives. Once the major fault is clear all works well untill main power is cycled. I was on the phone with tech connect this morning and no luck. Perhaps someone here has seen this problem before. ### Assistant: About the fault you got: Checking the box Major Fault on Controller if Connection Fails while in Run Mode in the Sercos module's properties / connection tab, will cause a major fault on the processor of Type 3 Code 16 when any fault on the sercos module occurs. For example, if the sercos ring drops out, then in the processors properties tab / Major Fault tab, you'll see Type 3 Code 16 displayed, as well as the ok led on the processor flashing red. For example it is normal for a communication error at power up because the ring takes time to phase up to phase 4 If you want to avoid this, uncheck the Major Fault check box on the Connections tab, or add a Fault Handler. - fuzzy logic The check box for Major Fault on Controller if Connection Fails While in Run Mode is NOT checked. Wow !:smileysurprised:Did you notice which fault code is inside the Sercos module in that situation ? - fuzzy logic There is no fault on the sercos module. Sorry, I mean in the Connection tab, when the CLX is in Fault... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic No fault listed there. The status is running. On power up the CLX faults. There is no fault on the sercos card. The drives boot all the way to 4. One axis then faults, code 16 - software overtravel. The position of the faulted drive is -19568. The absolute reference bit is still set. There are no MRP's in the program. I have even added AFI instructions to disable all of the routines to rule out a programming error. I have tried another sercos card and even tried another slot on the rack. The first problem that i was having is resolved, it turns out that the two problems are not related. The problem with the CLX faulting was that it was faulting on power down, not when powering up. I happened to notice that the time of the fault did not match when the machine was powered down. When the machine was wired power to the processor was through a filter and the control power for the kinetix was not. There was just enough time delay through the line filter so that the CLX was still powered on after the drives were not. A quick swap of a wire took care of this problem. Now, on to the other problem that i am having. One of the servo drives comes back online with a position that does not match the actual position. It should be at 2mm and it comes back as -19,000, throwing a software overtravel. The motor is a MPL-B330P-MJ22A. The M indicating that it is a Multi-turn High-resolution Encoder, so it should not be loosing its position. The absolute reference bit is still set to true. My humble experience: is it the hardware, not the software. check if the wiring between the encoder and the k6k is correct. Also check if there is no connection between the shield and any of the other wires (hardly happens, but it when, it is in the cable connector at the motor side)! , elseswap drives. Power up again and check if the error goes with the drive, elsechange motor. Success,Ceeya n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ethernet Network Hi everyone, i'm looking for improving my ethernet network performance, i'm looking for some ethernet switch Manage as many of you will definitely recommend to use. But is there a particular model that will work better with controllogix platform or any kind will just do the job after being configure as well. thx ### Assistant: Hi Flames, Aid 22044 contains a document with Switches features recommendations for use with Ethernet/IP network... for sure Stratix Switches are tested and optimized to work with Ethernet/IP, and offer some features to easily integrate them into RS5000 for Configuration and Diagnostic purposes.... For sure also Hirschmann offer good Switches that work with Ethernet/IP (i.e. RS20, RS30, MICE models). Other users will also add their preferences... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic We use Phoenix Contact managed switches they are like $560. Did wonders for network especially if you use Ethernet/IPhttp://www.phoenixcontact.com/automation/32119_30385.htm Ethernet/IP uses both TCP and UDP. UDP is a multi-cast protocol that can really slow all network performance down. If a switch supports Internet Group Multicast Protocol (IGMP) it can control where the UDP messages go and keep overall network performance up. I lot of products support IGMP. I like N-Tron switches. See the following article for more information. http://www.n-tron.com/pdf/rockwellautomationappnotev8.pdf It is a very salesy article and sort of an application guide for their products. Still at the beginning it contains some good info. Following is my story of woe. I had a network of several ControlLogix and RSView SE with several clients. Every thing was on a nice high expensive Cisco switch that IT specified. After a couple of weekw the IT guys finally figured out who was loading down the network with all this broadcast traffic and made me unplug from the factory network. After lots of politics I got permission to plug in at night to download updates. After some more research and politics I replaced the Cisco switch with an N-Tron. Everyone was happy after that. Flames, I've used the Hirschmann managed switches on a couple projects with good result. However, to get a more complete answer, I've entered a query to Mr. EtherNet/IP on the ODVA (www.odva.org) website. I'll post again if/when I get a reply. Dale, W8ABZ thx for your help, let me know when you learn more from your post. I have a lot of budies on my network, few panelview plus, Flex I/O, Other Plc communication !!! Flames, At odva.org, The automated thank you for your inquiry response says it could be a week or two until I get a reply. (It's like that with any voluntary-contributory organization -- I would not have expected an immediate answer.) So if you're in a hurry, just go for it. As I'm sure you're aware, the biggest switch feature you'll need (for I/O, Produced/Consumed tags, etc.) is IGMP Snooping. This keeps the multicast traffic only on the ports that need it. I'm curious how many PV+s is a few. A PV+ with a lot of tags and fast screen updates can really crank out the messages, and more than a few of them talking to the same controller can keep its communication task hopping. Make sure you have plenty of CPU available for comms (adjusting Controller Communications Time Slice if necessary). And if you currently use an unmanaged switch, any of the N-Tron, Phoenix, Hirschmann, Cisco (e.g., 2755) or A-B Stratix switches will be a vast improvement! Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ i have right now, 1 panelview plus 1000 and 2 panelview plus 600, also as far of Flex I/O is over 12 full rack over that network, also a SLC 5/05 is over that network. What do you think about unmanaged switch talking to other switch?Have you get some feedback over your other post also. thx If your network is totally isolated. If you will never need to be connected to the Web. If you will nevery need to be connected to the factory netork. In this case you might get away with an unmaged switch. From my experience as a control system evolves there is no such thing as an absolutely totally isolated network. You really need IGMP Snooping. I doubt you will get that on an unmanged switch. Flames, Nothing back from Mr. EtherNet/IP yet, so I posted a reminder at the odva.org website. I did find an interesting paper that discusses the types of traffic generated in an EtherNet/IP network and how the various level 2 (managed switch) and level 3 (router) switching devices deal with them. http://www.odva.org/Portals/0/Library/Publications_NotNumbered/Utilization_of_Modern_Switching_Technology_in_EtherNetIP_Networks.pdf A more thorough document, covering everything from IP addressing and physical LAN hardware on up, through network commissioning, is: http://www.odva.org/Portals/0/Library/Publications_Numbered/PUB00035R0_Infrastructure_Guide.pdf If you get through this last document, you'll truly be an EtherNet/IP guru! I hope these help you understand the reasons why a managed switch (with VLAN, Port Mirroring, and most especially, IGMP snooping) is critical to success on EtherNet/IP networks, especially those with I/O and Produce/Consume (class 1) connections (those that have an RPI). As before, if I hear more from ODVA, I'll post. Dale, W8ABZ A couple of things to go along with the prior comments that have been posted. It's not always enough to buy a managed switch with IGMP snooping. You have to actually manage it, which at the very least means turning on the IGMP snooping. If it's not turned on, you wasted your money. Same for VLANs - they have to be managed. IGMP snooping also requires that at least one querier be present on the network to generate multicast membership queries. You can have a whole mess of IGMP snooping switches waiting patiently (forever) for a designated querier to ask about membership. IGMP is a layer 3 (network layer) protocol, and switches are a principally a Layer 2 (data link layer) device. Note: IGMP is different than IGMP snooping. The membership query is a Layer 3 packet, since IGMP was originally designed for routers, not switches. Routers have long been able to issue membership queries. More recently, newer switches can do so too (making them partly a Layer 3 player). The setup within switches to enable listening and responding to query packets is often a separate selection from designating a switch as a querier. I've heard mixed reviews about the effectiveness of more than one querier, but there's no doubt that fewer than one leaves you virtually no better off than using hubs (repeaters) if your traffic is predominantly multicast, as it is in I/O networks. If you want to know if you've done an effective job of network design, mirror your trunk port (the one hooked out to other systems) and monitor the traffic with WireShark. Don't expect the multicast traffic to be zero (the membership queries themselves are multicast), but they should be a very small part of the overall traffic on the trunk port. Especially make note of the source address of those multicasts. If the source is the address of an I/O rack, a drive or such, you're probably not containing them. Many people look at their first WireShark capture, and become alarmed to see destination addresses they don't recognize. Multicast groups have IP addresses in the Class D range, which is 224.0.0.0 to 239.255.255.255. So, IP nodes wishing to multicast to others will not send data to a unicast address (the most recognizable ones), but to the Class D address of the multicast group. The receiver of these multicasts (if they've subscribed to the group) will bind that multicast address to its own network interface card, along with their own unique unicast address. You can get WireShark for free, and Google lots of information about it. It's the de facto standard in packet analysis. If you're not doing packet captures once in a while, you're only guessing about the effectiveness of your equipment and your design. Also, if you're not mirroring to your capture port, you're not seeing the true picture. n"}
{"text": "### Human: All PanelView Plus Explosion Proof Certification Hi, any way to locate the above items? ### Assistant: Actual Certifications for Panelview Plus family are reported below: See also the following: LINK Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSveiw 32 RT - screen blanks out (no data) Currently have three identical RSVeiw applications running on three different Winders as operator interfaces. Two of the three routinely experianc what the operators call 'blank screens' or 'lock ups'. What appears to happen is either that the RSVeiw application is no longer communicating with the OPC topic in RSLinx, or Linx is no longer communicationg to the PLC. All three PC's are running Windows XP Srvc Pk3, RSVeiw32 Run Time 7.5 and RSLinx Classic 2.54. All Rockweel products have the proper license. In addition the screen is an HIS touch screen connected via AdderLink KVM extenders (X2 Silver). THe first machine had a simialr issue early on at start-up, however since the PS2 mouse and keybaord were unplugged from the remote extender module the issue went away. The second machine ran for a month before this issue started, and the third machine for aproximately two weeks. The RSVeiw system nodes and channels are configured correctly for each and RSLinx is configured using the ethernet device driver pointing to the correct IP address for the CLX Ethernet card in each PLC. There is a mill lan connection to each PLC because there are produced and consumed tags for each to an MCC PLC for small motor control. We've tried to many different things to list here, but my feeling is it may be related to Linx and XP.Windows Event veiwer has shown application hang for both Linx and RSVeiw. *Updates to the above Message: RSLinx vs 2.52, RSVeiw Vs 7.4; the systems were rolled back to XP SP 2 and the patch for Linx 2.52 installed. In addition installed updated drive for HIS 19 Touch Screen. Still have issue on one machine - can go days without issue then have mulitple issues within an 8 hour shift. A Re-Boot of HMI Dell PC seems to be the only fix. We are currently in the process of taking the following steps to isolate this issue: 1) As a test, install a UPS in the drive cabinet to power the ### Assistant: In effect there is a possible problem with RSLinx Classic 2.54... it is NOT tested/compatible with Windows XP SP3...:smileysad: this maybe or not related to the issue you have, but has to be considered as a potential cause. Aid 42682Aid 56260 - fuzzy logic Hi, I also have similar problem with separate 2 Dell workstations installed with RSview32 Runtime and communicating with ControlLogix PLC via Ethernet/IP OPC topic. The screen somehow hanged and locked till need to be shutdown manually by forced pushing workstation button. It's getting more frequent nowadays. Somehow, I asked my client to check on all RSView32, RSLinx and workstation WinXP version and SP. Please kindly revert for any possible solutions or useful information. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Graphic Library Add-Ons Anybody know if any additional graphics are available anywhere. In particular im looking for a chemical metering pump graphic. I'm sure i could make a half way decent one if given some time, which i seem to have very little of these days. Any help/suggestion would be most appreciated. ### Assistant: Woody, try tech note 34729. These are RSView32 graphics, but they can be imported into SE. I don't think they can be imported into ME, though. Hope that helps. thanks for your reply! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Display not able to shut down I have an application in FT View SE, I have several On Top Screens. On them I am using a button release action Abort me.On all of my other pop-ups this button closes the window just fine, but on 1 it wont close and I get an error Display(s) cannot be closed that's it.I can't find any difference on it from any other one I have done. I even deleted the button and created a new one with the same result.Anyone have any ideas? ### Assistant: Hi Smoke, could be possible to have your application attached in a new post to test ? - fuzzy logic Smoke, the only time I have seen that sort of behavior is when the screen is trying to complete some task and can't be closed until that task is done. Two possibilities are VBA code executing or a pending tag write that has not completed. If you have VBA, try disabling or deleting it and see if you get the same problem. If the problem goes away, then you can start debugging your code. For the tag write thing, check the FactoryTalk log (if you are using RSLinx Enterprise) or the RSLinx communication event log (if you are using RSLinx Classic). You might also try the divide and conquer approach - delete half the objects and retest. If the problem goes away, it was an issue with the half you deleted. Restore that and delete half again. Keep deleting until only the problem object remains. I experienced a similar problem but not quite the same. It turned out to be a power problem and using the OPC driver to talk to ControlLogix. First the power would fluctuate and make the PLC start to shut down. Before it went down completely it would come back up. It drove communications to RSLinx nuts and then trickled threw to the graphics. They would become sluggish is a you would normally expect. Sometimes they would lock up and you could not close the client. I would have to force Windows to close the unresponsive Client. Interestingly SE Server recovered. I dealt with the power problem and the lockups went away. I was told later that this was also tied to the OPC driver and that if I used RSLinx Enterprise this would not have happened. I have since installed Enterprise. I cannot testify that it made any difference. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem in Opening a Project in RsView Hi, I am using RsView 7.5 CPR 9 SR 1. I had created a project. have opened up few screens from my old project. but now when i try to open up a project i am getting errors as enclosed in this message. The first message i am getting is the connect to watcom sql and the second is obdc error. because the errors that i have mentioned, i am not able to open up any project. even if i try to create a new project i am not able to do it. can anyone please do help me in this regard. i have earlier worked on some of the older versions of RsView (upto version 6). i haven't faced any such problems earlier. Also i need a help with rest to posting message in this forum. I am not able to attach more than one attachment. can any one help me in this as well. Regards Gopal ### Assistant: Hi Gopal, There are a few tech notes on this message - try 9645, 31346 and 48060 for starters. Good luck! n"}
{"text": "### Human: ultra3000 error e11 I've a ultra 3000 connected to motor N-2302 and when i tried to configurate the motor in the prgram the ultra 3000 change the status to E 11, I tried with different motors and iI got the same error. Could anybody help me with this situation. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 20629Aid 21807 (TechConnect Authorization required) Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Formatted Computer lost license Hello I'm working in one of the automation labs in my University, where 3 licenses for different Rockwell software's were installed through factory talk web service in three different computers. One of the computers was formatted and the license for this computer was lost. How can I do to recover it. Im trying to get customer support through the chat service, but this message appears :You don't have permission to access this document. Thank you This answer is 'locked' or being updated You do not have permission to access this document. This answer is 'locked' or being updated You do not have permission to access this document. ### Assistant: Hi Andres. Unfortunately, the chat service can't, at this time, tell the difference between chat requests for products that require a support contract (ie, most of them) and those that do not (ie, Activations). Therefore, if you don't have a support contract, online chat is not available to you. However, the phone support guys *are* able to help with Activation issues, so give them a call. I realize this isn't the optimal solution (both for you *or* us, since chat is more efficient use of our engineers in most cases). We've got some ideas on ways to fix this, but we haven't started trying to implement those ideas yet, so for right now ... just call. JHutch JHutch, FTA asks us for either a hard drive identifier or MAC address when initially getting the activation from RS through the internet. In this particular case, the hard drive was reformatted, no hardware replacement. The hard drive identifier and the MAC address are the same as before the formatting. One would expect FTA to make note of the identical hardware and re-download the activation with no further hassle. The identifiers are unique, right? Is this how FTA actually works in the case of reinstalling software?This is not an idle question; I have a computer on which I must soon do a reformat, possibly do a hard drive replacement. The user installed using the MAC address as the unique hardware code. If you back up your FTA activation file, you can re-use it on the same hardware. This is the point of having a nonencrypted plaint-text activation file. It's just a text file; you can store it on any computer media or network device that you can connect to. The file has a *.LIC extension and is located in C:Program FilesCommon FilesRockwellActivations. As long as the hardware used to create the license has not changed, you can simple copy the file into that directory and FT Activation will use it. That's the circumstance that TJ will be in, so he will have no problem preserving his FT Activation. When you reformat a machine or otherwise delete the FT Activation license file but have no backup, the FTA server does not just serve up another copy of the license file. You have to call and ask for it. I've done it; I had my serial number handy and it took about 5 minutes. Ken, I think I've made my opinion of FTA clear here and in other venues. (grin). Don't you think that, if nothing's changed with the unique hardware identifier (say, the MAC address), that FTA should register back with RS (call the mothership, in other words), note that the information is still the same, and be back in operation without the explicit call to request it? If FTA worked this way (transparently to the user for once), I would have one small positive thing to say about it. Ideally, FT Activations are restored by having the user copy their backup of the *.LIC file onto the restored computer. No phone calls, no Internet access, no database inquiry, no validation, no support, no contract, no mess, no fuss, no indigestion, no headaches. Instead, when the *.LIC file is lost, it is not automatically restored but must be requested. I don't urge customers to pick up the phone anymore, after an incident a couple of years ago when a customer complained repeatedly about not getting an e-mail reply back from Tech Support. I lost my patience with him. Why is it so hard for you to make a simple phone call ! He lost his patience with me. Because I've been deaf since the war ! n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTView Studio Alarm Configuration Just a couple of quick questions regarding alarm development for a PVPlus using FTStudio for ME. 1. Is there a way to resize the alarm configuration dialog box. The ridiculously small dialog box doesn't allow for my longer tag names to be completely visible as triggers, so I find myself constantly having to edit fields so I can see the end of the tagname (which is the important part in this case), then switch back to edit the message. 2. Has anyone found a way to edit the alarm configuration elswhere (Excel, notepad, etc...) View32 & PB32 used to be able to export alarm tags which would allow you to edit them to a usable software, then re-import them to the desired software. ### Assistant: You can't resize the window, which does make things difficult when trying to work with lots of long alarms. But here's a trick you can try: highlight the Trigger, Trigger Value and Message columns, press Ctl-C, then paste it into Excel by pressing Ctl-V. Make your changes there and then do the reverse to get your changes back into ME. Hope that helps. Right click on alarm setup and export the alarms as XML.You can then edit the triggers and alarms in notepad before re-importing them. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx and CLX OPC A&E (Alarm and Event) Compliance Hi, any link or information which can prove the above subject? ### Assistant: Not sure I understand your question. What type of RSLinx do you mean? RSLinx Classic or RSLinx Enterprise? RSLE has FTAE built into it, but ANY data server can use a FTAE Tag server. You could write your own OPC server and that would also allow for FactoryTalk Alarms and Events in that case. See chapter 6 of the FTAE users guide for a walk-through. The question was related to ONLY RSlinx Classic, not RSLinx Enterprise which I'm aware of its own A&E. But how about RSLinx Classic? Support OPC A&E? As I sais, ANY data server can have FactoryTalk Alarms & Events if you use a Tag Alarm Server. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Excel DDE Ftview SE How to link FTview SE and excel via DDE links ? ### Assistant: I don't believe SE supports DDE. What do you want to see in Excel? If it is logged data, see tech note 29789. If it is realtime data, you are better off using RSLinx Classic (with an activation) to view the controller data directly. Try to see Aid 42049 (How to Use Excel as DDE Server and FactoryTalk View SE as DDE Client) - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 and OPC version 2.05 Hello! I am trying to communicate an OPC Server (Motorola OPC Server for MOSCAD) that is specified as 2.05 version compliant. I am using RSView32 version 7.40 with no patches. I would like to know if someone has a similar experience and how to fix it. Thanks in advance, Johnny ### Assistant: As far as I know, when RSView32 is the OPC Client it only uses the older 1.0a data access standard, so that it can be compatible with a broad variety of OPC Servers. Is the Motorola OPC server also OPC version 1.0a compliant ? Most OPC servers that support OPC DA 2.0 also support the earlier standard. What exactly is your problem ? Are you having trouble browsing tags, or just listing the OPC servers, or is there a data quality problem ? Questions that Tech Support would ask include: Is the OPC Server local to the RSView32 computer or is it remote ? What operating system and service pack are you running ? Can you use the OPC Test Client to read data from the Motorola OPC server ? I haven't had any experience with that particular OPC server, but usually troubleshooting these is pretty generic. If the OPC server has its own OPC client, see if that can connect.If the OPC server has diagnostics, see what errors are occuring.If the OPC server requires an activation of some sort, make sure it is present.If the OPC server resides on different computer than the OPC client, check the Windows event logs to see if any errors occur. Also make sure that Windows security is allowing access. One simple (but incomplete) test is mapping a drive to the remote computer - make sure no prompt for username/passoword appears. Also, to ensure that the Windows Security log is capturing any failed connection attempts, turn on all Failure audits (details can be found in tech note 51244). Do this on both computers.If nothing else works, you can try the Matrikon OPC Sniffer:http://www.matrikonopc.com/products/opc-data-management/opc-sniffer.aspx If this fails, I would contact Motorola tech support. If that fails, I would contact Rockwell tech support. Hope one of these solutions helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Custom HTML pages in ML1100 It may be possible to create custom HTML pages and load them in a ML1100 Micrologix? :mansurprised: ### Assistant: Custom-designed User Provided page views are only available on Micrologix 1400 at this moment. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS485 DSI Protocol 40P to Micro1400 Does anyone have any examples or literature on how to do this? First time user of 40P's and of this communication. Have 3 drives. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ### Assistant: Try to start from Aid 33774, it is realized for MX1100 and PF4/40, but applies the same for your components... See also User Manual - App.C Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Check with your local RA distributor or sales office for literature from the Connected Components campaign. There were pre-built logic and wiring examples for the MicroLogix 1400 and 1100 connected to PowerFlex 4-series drivers as part of that commercial program. I use Appendix C of the User Manual as my reference whenever I'm doing Modbus RTU communications with a PowerFlex 4-series. I still prefer to hardwire the Start and Stop commands to the controller and run my speed reference and data collection over the network to make troubleshooting simpler in the field. n"}
{"text": "### Human: failed to backup system directory Im using RSView ME. When I try to load an application I get the message failed to backup system directory. Can you tell me what can be causing this problem? Thanks ### Assistant: Are you using RSView ME Station ? There are some documented actions to try: 1) Repair Factory Talk. To perform a repair do the following:Go to Control Panel's Add or Remove programsSelect Factory Talk Automation PlatformSelect Click here for support informationSelect Repair2) Ensure user has administrative privilegesThis can be easily tested by logging into the computer as an administrator. If the issue can not be reproduced, then assign admin privileges to the original user account experiencing the error message.3) Reinstall ME Station Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Report Hi everyone, is there a way to do some kind of print report of a program for HMI with factoryTalk View Studio ??? ### Assistant: Try to take a look to FactoryTalk View Project Documenter, it is available as a downloadable tool since version 5.00 of FactoryTalk View and it is installed as part of the product install since version 5.10. See Aid 46928 for further infos. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Image from camera to Panelview Plus I have set up Rs View Studio as Technote 40078 but I keep getting my homepage plus errors. Is there a special way of writing the IP address in the properties? the camera is a Axis and I can use the IP on a normal web browser but in RS View I get the errors the item does not exist on any server ??!! Any ideas ?????? ### Assistant: Try to use the application attached to Aid 31315 to test your WebBrowser and see if it works... Anyway, create for the URL field a new tag of type STRING, and insert the address from within a String Input object....see image below... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 700S Simulated Encoder Output Looking at an application where a motor mounted encoder needs to go to the 700S (for drive/motor loop closure) and an M02AE card. Sure, you can parallel the signal and put a buffer/repeater module in. What would be nicer is if the 700S had a simulated encoder output module, like a Control Techniques drive. Anyone know of an addon module for this purpse? ### Assistant: Try Motrona encoder splitter. n"}
{"text": "### Human: step/direction (stepper) output with CLX & Ultra 3K I have an existing application with a microprocessor providing step and direction pulses to a Ultra 3000 for positioning a machine.I want to replace the microprocessor with Controllogix, but can not replace the existing drive. Is a third party stepper module (AMCI 3202) my only option?Can I position control the 3K in velocity mode with the 1756-M02AE? ### Assistant: Hi flashbif, nice to *see* you again here in the Forum. :smileywink: Actually, CLX stepper module is only available through Encompass partner AMCI, as you've already indicated.Anyway, the other solution you've mentioned is also valid, and IMO more versatile and more integrated, as you may use all the Motion instructions inside RS5000, just use the Ultraware to change the type of control you will use. Aid 22169 contains -M02AE Motion examples that may help. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Timed Events in FactoryTalk SE Hello all,We have been looking at Rockwell as a replacement for our current DCS system and have just gotten funding for a small system to test in one area of the mill (Pulp&Paper). I've spent some time working with static graphics and creating global objects for motors and controllers. However, I have run into several roadblocks and was wondering if anybody had encountered them as well. I'm looking at doing several operations after a set period of time in FactoryTalk SE. I've looked around and searched the forums and haven't had much luck finding what I'm looking for so I thought I'd ask here. I am aware that the functions provide an Interval function that returns a 1 after the specified period of time and have been able to successfully use it, but I'm not sure how to make it work for my task. The first is opening either an overlay or a small menu as part of a global object (motor indicator with about 40+ instances), that after a certain period will time out. My first inclination is to do this by loading a seperate display and overlaying it. In this case an ActiveX instance of the Microsoft Timer control could be implemented to close the menu automatically. When attempting this, I have found it difficult to display the menu next to the Global Object that calls it, without manually specifying where I would like the graphic to pop up each time. My second attempt involved embedding the menu as a set of buttons in the GlobalObject and using VBA to hide the grouped object after a certain amount of time. However I found that VBA code doesn't attach to a GlobalObject and each new instance of the object renames the components. My second issue involves the Numeric Input, because the forecolor and backcolor cannot be set, it clashes with our desire to implement a low contrast operator display. Additionally, the Numeric Input keeps the input selected even after entering a change, which isn't allowed for fear of accidental input. As a result my desired solution is to have a Numeric Input and Label overlayed, where the Touch of the Label would hide the Label and show the Numeric Input, selected. When the change had been made to the Numeric Input or after a certain amount of time, it would unselect and show the Label again. I know these sound pretty specific but I thought others may have encountered similar roadblocks and found a workaround for them. Thanks for your time,Jordan Braun Attachments: A mock up of the global object with Motor Start/Stop/Jog menu. ### Assistant: Hi Jordan, OK, maybe I am overlooking something, but I think you could accomplish goal #1 by using VBA in the Display_StartAnimation event, maybe something like this: For x = 1 to 100000 'an arbitrary sleep interval DoEventsNext xButton1.Visible = False ' where Button1 is the name of the global object For goal #2, you CAN set the color of a numeric input - see Display Settings-> Behavior tab. Hope that helps Wow, I was so far off about FT VBA works and how it delt with Global Objects. I downloaded a copy of the Plant PAx process objects and the VBA object model and have been able to get a better understanding of some of the workarounds. I'll run through it this morning and see if I can get your solution to work. Thanks! n"}
{"text": "### Human: ML1400 and Custom Logo I am trying to load our custom logo into a ML1400 so that it shows on power up rather than the default logo. I have saved the logo as a black and white BMP. The file size is 1086 bytes. It is 128 x 64 pixels in size. I have created the ASCII files in the ML1400 program and imported the image to the ASCII files. I do the import on A11 and the logo fills up A11, A12 and part of A13. In the LCD function file I have set CBL to 11. I downloaded the program to the ML1400, cycled power...and I keep getting the default logo. Is there something really obvious I'm missing here? I can get the bootup string to work fine on a ML1100 but something is eluding me on the logo for the ML1400. Thanks! ### Assistant: Problem could be in the file size, yours is 1086 bytes, as it must be 1088 bytes...maybe you've used MSPaint to realize it... ?! Your imported Bitmap file format should meet the following criteria: • image resolution : 128 x 64 pixels (black/white image) • image size : 1088 bytes (consisting of image header = 62 bytes + raw image data size = 1024 bytes + padding data : 2 bytes) Anyway, try to follow what is explained in the Word doc inside Aid 61155, expecially the last 3 sheets. Basically you have to copy first 10 characters of the ASCII file where the image is in the technote's attached example file .rss, inside your project, first 10 characters of ASCII file with your imported logo. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic I should've kept reading that document. When it started to describe using Photoshop I tuned out since we don't have that software. It was a little clunky to understand but I got it working. Thanks for the help! n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 multi-window I have a customer that wants display mulitple RSView Windows simultaneously on a single large screen (46-50) LCD in a 2x2 grid. Does anyone know how to do this? ### Assistant: If you size the main RSView32 window to fit the extended desktop, you can issue Display commands with /X and /Y switches to specify the coordinates where you want the graphic to appear. You might want to check out tech note 8377 as well. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to program a powerflex 70 on devicenet to reverse from my contro logix plc I need to know how program my controllogix plc, to reverse my powerflex 70 drive, which is on DeviceNet.. I will be creating a momentary push button in RSVeiw Studio 4.0 to trigger the command. Thanks. ### Assistant: Basically you have to work with bits 4 and 5 of the Logic Command Word... see image... Your momentary push button would have to set the right bits combination when pressed, through your PLC logic. An example of a complete control of a PF70 via Devicenet is inside 20Comm adapter User Manual - Chapter 5-10 - fuzzy logic Don, As for how to program the logic to toggle from the momentary push button, you could use the feedback of the Commanded Direction from the drive along with the input from the RSView operator station to figure out how to set the direction command bits to the drive (that Fuzzy gave you). If the button is clicked (HMI writes a 1) (XIC HMIToggleDirRequest), then: If the Commanded Direction status input from the drive is Forward: (XIC DriveStatus_CommandDir) Then set the output command word bits to the drive (the table Fuzzy sent you) to set it to Reverse (OTL LogicCommand_Reverse and OTU LogicCommand_Forward) If the Commanded Direction status input from the drive is Reverse: (XIO DriveStatus_CommandDir) Then set the output command word bits to the drive to set it to Forward. (OTL LogicCommand_Forward and OTU LogicCommand_Reverse) and finally, clear the 1 that the HMI button sent back to a zero: (OTU HMIToggleDirRequest) so the above logic doesn't keep flip-flopping the direction.(for a total of 3 output branches) (The tagnames I used above are from the PF70 on EtherNet/IP profile. CommandDir is bit 2 of the input word. For the output word, Forward is bit 4 and Reverse is bit 5, as the table Fuzzy sent you shows. I just made up an HMI tag name. call it whatever you want -- it's a BOOL tag where the HMI Momentary Button writes a 1.) Don't use the Actual Direction status input (bit 3) in the logic above, because this shows the actual rotation direction. (You probably want to display this on your screen as status, though...) If you flip the drive to reverse while it is running forward, the Commanded Direction flips to reverse immediately; the drive slow to zero, then the Actual Direction status flips and the drive accelerates in reverse to the speed reference. If you click HMI button accidentally, you can just click again and the Commanded Direction is restored without having to wait for the drive to decel all the way down to zero and change direction. The drive will have slowed a bit, but will accel back up to speed. Finally, for the HMI click action of writing a 1, do this on button REALEASE if you can (instead of press). (View32 and ViewSE both let you do this. I don't remember on ME.....) Then if someone clicks the button and realizes they didn't want to reverse direction, they can drag the cursor off the button before releasing and not trigger an unintended reversal. (Most Windows buttons work this way -- act on button release, not on press.) As I wrote this, I assumed you are fairly new to Logix and HMI programming. If I've assumed wrong, I apologize for stating stuff you probably already knew. Hope this helped!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Minor Fault caused by using Clock Update Tool??? In preperation for a more seamless Daylight savings execution than previous years, I decided to try and syncronize all our Processors today using Clock Update tool V2.2.5. Upon execution I had a major plant upset caused by numerous differential and pressure alarms. It would seem that the values returned from scaling routines were affected by the application. Has anyone had any similar issues? Are there known conflicts when using this tool on programs utilizing GSV function blocks? I am going to duplicate the test again during our next shutdown to verify that it was indeed the application of this software and not some random coincidence. The processor affected was a 1756-L62 ControlLogix 5562 Controller, Revision 15.3. Unfortunately no faults were recorded in the PLC that was affected. ### Assistant: Are your scaling routines using the WallClockTime ? Are they using the rolling timestamp of the controller ? I cannot imagine (and have never seen) the Clock Update Tool affecting anything but the WallClockTime object. That certainly does sound alarming. Can you share information about how scaling is done in your controllers ? I cannot find any links to the WallclockTime. There is a routine that already updates that particular controller's date and time every hour on the hour so it is possible that it tied up the scan enough to affect the scaling routines...Had I done the update offset from 00:00 then it may not have occurred at all. I will have a chance tomorrow to simulate the update repeatedly so I can try different scenarios and test for repeatability. Possibly this is a conflict between two different methods of updating the clock occuring at the same time. Easy enough to test by running the simulation again with the existing routine AFI'd and not. I may have found the culprit, they used the ScanTimeSec to calculate the Filter Holding Register in the AI Scaling routine. A jump of a few minutes to the wallclocktime would generate a very large scantime and greatly increase the scaling factor. Here is the calc for Scantime IN2-H2O, In your calculation above, use the Class Name = CST, Attribute Name = CurrentValue, not the WALLCLOCKTIME. The CST value is a running number of microseconds used for timing and is independent of the current date and time set in the WALLCLOCKTIME object. (I don't know for sure what sets it to zero -- download, powerup, whatever...) If you look at the help for the WALLCLOCKTIME GSV attributes, you'll get an idea of how the CST and WALLCLOCKTIME are related: CST.CurrentValue + WALLCLOCKTIME.CSTOffset = WALLCLOCKTIME.CurrentValue The WALLCLOCKTIME CurrentValue is the number of microseconds since a reference date/time. (In Version 15 and earlier, the reference is 1972-01-01 00:00:00.000000. In Version 16 and later, they changed the reference to 1970-01-01 00:00:00.000000 to line up with the zero time for the UTC epoch. It's a standards thing.....) When you set the controller clock, what you are really doing is determining a new WALLCLOCKTIME CSTOffset from the current controller CST CurrentValue so that the WALLCLOCKTIME CurrentValue will be the correct number of microseconds since the reference time. So setting the DateTime attribute (or LocalDateTime for V16 and later) of WALLCLOCKTIME changes the WALLCLOCKTIME CSTOffset and WALLCLOCKTIME CurrentValue to get the clock to read the newly-set date and time. But the CST CurrentValue just keeps on ticking along without any big jump. So when you do scan time calculations for rate-of-change or filter calcs, be sure to use CST CurrentValue. Don't use WALLCLOCKTIME CurrentValue. Try that change in your GSV (rung 2) and let us know how it works! Dale, W8ABZ IN2-H2O, One more thing. The calculation used for the time difference will generate a MinorFault on math overflow every time CST CurrentValue[0] wraps from positive to negative (on the subtraction of the previous scan's value). Here's a way to do it that takes an extra microsecond or two but won't log any minor faults: I scaled the captured image a bit so it would fit better in the post -- I hope you can read it OK. The code is from the T_Scan Add-On Instruction that is in the Vendor Sample code Add-On Instruction examples ACD file that installs with V17. Note the sneaky addition of 2**31 (twice) to account for the DINT rollover without ever overflowing. Check your Minor Fault log and see if you're getting math overflows on the subtract in rung 3 of your routine. If so, try the above and let us know how that works too! Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ High five for Dale ! I agree, and I can't wait to try this out. Our shutdown just got postponed another day so i must be patient. In the meantime I am checking through our other 23 controllers looking for similar issues and clearing up more minor faults. Thanks for everybodies input already, I'll be sure to report back the results and close out the thread. I got a chance to apply the change yesterday and it seems to be working correctly now. I have not programmed in the overrun protection yet but I will be watching for minor faults in the next few days. The old logic would result in the same fault and it hasn't been an issue yet either so I believe we are clear, if not I will then apply the sneaky logic. I would like to apply one change at a time and monitor it for side effects first. Good news is, I was able to duplicate my previous minor fault and throw off my scaling routines with the clock update tool before the change and not after so I am very certain that this issue is now resolved. Thanks for the help guys and thanks for being here. Here's another solution to eliminating the minor error (that results as a overflow of the maths that we're really not interested in and just want to ignore it). The attached has an AOI that Rockwell provided in some of their examples prior to V17. Nothing really special in this AOI that you wouldn't do yourself - except that it also takes care of the minor error by forcing the maths to 30 bits instead of 32. Key thing is that when deriving the elapsed time, we're only interested in the magnitude of the increment of the bit pattern, not interested in signed integers etc. What happens in this AOI is that the most significant 2 bits are masked out and ignored - thus never generating the overflow in the first place. It essentially forces the maths to operate and act like a 30 bit unsigned integer. Edited message as I've just seen that the previous example posted was also from a Rockwell AOI.Note - this AOI still has the bug of WallClock instead of CST as reported by Dale, but its pasted up here to show another way of the minor error fix for deriving the difference in values, and you will need to look in the AOI instruction - note no code in the main program. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1734-RTB3 We are looking into getting IB8's for our point I/O system. However, with the way we power our photoeyes, we need to know the wiring configurations of an IB8 using a RTB3. We couldn't find any literature on this. Thank you. ### Assistant: You cannot find it because what you're asking is not a possible solution... :smileysad: The 1734-IB8 are not compatible with the 1734-TB3 or TB3S bases. Since the TB3 / TB3S RTBs internally short the 4-5 and 6-7 connections together, any module that has unique signals on [4, 5] and [6, 7] should not used. Reference Aid 59850 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC Flex Configuration Loss I am currently experiencing problems with a couple of SMC Flex softstarters which are connected over DeviceNet to a CompactLogix system. It seems that one of two faults may occur. I have not personally attended any of the problems and are onlyrelaying information given to me. 1. The SMC Flex seems to lose their configured data for apparently no reason. I have told the client to ensure that after he has reprogrammed them that he must save the data to Eprom and he has assured me that he has done this but the configured data loss still occurres from time to time. 2. According to the client it seems that the comms between the PLC and SMC Flex freezes. It does not accept a start command over the network but when a hardwired start command is issued it starts ruling out the possibility that the enable is missing. The firmware revision is 3.006 and ADR is enabled. ### Assistant: Sambo, obviously the best is to be on site and see what happens exactly, which fault code is displaied etc... :smileysurprised: Anyway, there is a known issue on ADR and SMC-Flex firmware revision 3.006 and earlier, as reported in Aid 30710... also there are two new firmwares for v5 and v6 that replace the original inside some SMCs which exibits the same error ( Aid 55159). Maybe the problem out there is coming from improper ADR functionality... :smileytongue: Hope that helps....- fuzzy logic Sambo,for the first problem given i think the required solution is only save to eeprom.For the second problem mentioned,make sure SMC-Flex should be 3-wire controlled otherwise it wouldn,t accept start command from PLC.Hope it helps.:smileyhappy: Agree to being on-site. My coleague, a junior engineer, tells me that there are no fault code displayed. Which to me is strange. The only reason I can think of is that comms actually does freeze up in the SMC and that it still thinks it is communicating to the PLC although it is not. Highly unlikely but possible I suppose. I will try to do a firmware upgrade and see whether that will solve the problem. Sambo,did you find out whether SMC is 3-wire or 2-wire controlled? Hello Friends, I am using about 30 number of 150-SMC-Flex devices on DeviceNet with 20-COMM-D Series-B module. I have installed the modules and the LEDs PORT/MOD/NET-A are steady Green. I have programmed the 150-SMC-Flex for Soft Start and Soft Stop Parameters. I am trying to give DeviceNet Out Signal to start the motor connected to 150-SMC-Flex. For this Motor to start I have enabled Logic Command bit 1 to ON State. In my PLC program, controller tags: Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0] to Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[4] are mapped for DNET Node Output and Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:I.Data[0]to Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:I.Data[4] are mapped for DNET Node Input. By this mapping, my plc logic makes bit Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].1 == ON making sure that Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].0 == OFF, Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].8 == OFF, Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].9 == OFF. For some reason the motor is not getting started and the 150-SMC-Flex LEDs remain Steady Green and LCD displays Stopped. Am I missing anything? Please help me to rectify this issue. I appreciate your any help in advance! Best Regards, Pramod n"}
{"text": "### Human: Flow rate calculate There is some ML1100 Micrologix function to calculate the flow rate accurately, from a measurement of weight? ### Assistant: Refer to the MicroLogix 1100 Programmable Controller Instruction Set Reference Manual Thank you. I got it as calculated with the instructions of the ML1100. What we still do not understand is how to make a routine run periodically, with good accuracy. I use a timer interrupt? I read the RTC and execute it with precision doing it this way? From already thank you for answering. Hi, if you want to scan a routine with a defined period of time, you have to use an STI...it is explained with details inside the Reference Manual indicated by allentcm, starting at page 272. Here an extract: Example of where you would use the STI are: • PID type applications, where a calculation must be performed at a specific time interval. • A motion application, where the motion instruction (PTO) needs to be scanned at a specific rate to guarantee a consistent acceleration/ deceleration profile. • A block of logic that needs to be scanned more often. All the settings (I mean the ladder file to launch, the setpoint time to use to execute it etc.) are inside the related tab in the Function Files. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PC change I have a very old PC with RSLogix installed, and the OS has been totally destroyed, so I can’t access to the hardware. I’ve received a new one in order to replace the older one and I need to reinstall the software. I don’t know any information about the old host ID. How can I activate the RSLogix in the new PC? ### Assistant: Just contact TechSupport; giving them the Serial Number and the Product Key of your software, they will be able to help you to activate your software again. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Load sharing and back-up I am running two PF70EC VFDs to two motors (w/ encoders) driving a single drum and am wondering what is the best way to have them load share, also if for some reason one motor or VFD goes down the other will take over. Motor are large enough to easily handle the load individually, but we require redundancy for this project. I have seen several solutions on load sharing, but none of them seem to lend themselves to redundancy. ### Assistant: I would use the speed trim method shown in the document that you can download from the literature library. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/drives-wp001_-en-p.pdfFor the speed trim you would use the Process PI function in the drive and limit the output of the Process PI loop to 10% of nameplate rpm. If you have some kind of supervisor control, you can turn off the PI loop if the other drive faults. We have used this method for years with great success. It will take a little bit of work to set it up and tune it. Curt PlettEngineering ManagerSystems Interface Inc. Just to ensure I'm doing this correctly, I've attached a top level diagram of my unit, I have the analog joystick signal coming in on Analog In 2 (pins 18 and 19) and the torque reference between the drives attached from Analog Out (pin 23 w/common) and Analog In 1 (pins 16 and 17). Both drive are set to speed regulation. PI Control P125 = 1 (Enabled)PI Reference Sel = 1 (Analog In 1)PI Feedback Sel = 1 (Analog In 1) I am getting some work done to some of the wiring right now so am currently unable to test. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT Alarms & Event History with SQLXpress 2005 (SP2) Hi,This is my problem... My Alarm and Event Log Viewer screen (History) only register the alarms when Ack All Alarms in the Alarm and Event Summary Screen (button from this screen)I need that this history alarm screen (that read from database in SQL) register all alarms in the right moment that their appears.Do I need to do an ODBC connection? or what? Please help me... Thanks in advance. Oliver ### Assistant: Just a couple of questions: Which is the language of your OS ?Did you see error logged into FactoryTalk Diagnostic (using Diagnostic Viewer) related to SQL Server ? - fuzzy logic I'm using: Server: Win2003 Std Edition (language: SO in spanish) Client: Win XP Pro (SP2) (language: SO in spanish) Diagnostic: The first picture show the error in the FTView... but now don't show anymore this error (days back) . The 2nd picture show the error at this moment (means this days) looks like are the same of picture 1. I was asking that because I'm aware of an issue like yours happened to a customer of mine using a non-English operating system. If it is possible, the best way is to install the English version of FactoryTalk View on an English operating system... anyway in my case it was enough to set English (United States) in the Control Panel --> Regional and Language Options --> Regional Options --> Standard and Formats... after a PC restart, the A&E log worked fine. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1394C-SJT22-D sercos phase 3 ring fault I just installed a reconditioned 1394C-SJT22-D module and the sercos will not get past phase 3. The previous module was working when it was removed. I have double checked the baud rate switches. ### Assistant: Hi, just found an internal note explaining this as a possible mechanical assembly issue, reguarding the 1394 terminator not seated in the right position... in case I don't know if you can check for this or need to send it again to repair... :smileysad: Another possibility could be the firmware revision of the controller doesn't *match* revision of motion module; in case post again your revisions of Controller, Motion module and 1394C. - fuzzy logic Hi, any news about your issue ? Just curious to know if you solved it or not... :smileywink: Thanks, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 40 I have a power flex 40 which has power to it but no power on the screen and just 3 flashing amber lights Port, Mod and Com A. please help!!! ### Assistant: Perhaps those drives have failed due to a problem with the switchmode power supply.Take a look to Aid 34911 .... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic This may well be the causeof why its nit running, does this mean the drive is permenatly damaged? any ideas on my I have flashing amber lights instead of green? If it doesn't recover after some power cycles, then it need to be repaired. :smileysad: Here some notes taken from another *old* thread: On some early PF4 and PF40 drives there were some components that were affected by heat a bit more than expected and this problem showed up. Only certain models of PF4 and PF40 drives had this issue, and only up to a certain date. Drives manuafactured after October 2005 have the improved design. If it is determined that your drives fall into the date and catalog number range, as determined by your distributor, then these drives will be repaired. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic About the leds over your drive... see the User Manual for the communication module you're using, troubleshooting chapter, to get infos. See this LINK to get the right manual.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Found the manual but no explanation for that combination of lights, have tried ringing Allen Bradley tech but all they want to do is send out and engineer and won't just let me speak to an engineer!!! Effectively the amber leds flashing is quite strange... and not documented. I think the drive has to be repaired / replaced, anyway it is important you may have the opportunity to talk with a Tech Support guy to discuss the issue before / instead of sending an engineer, as this can be unnecessary. Unfortunately I cannot help you on that... my suggestion is to call your Rockwell representative to ask them interact with the support ... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC Flex Help Hello Friends, I am using about 30 number of 150-SMC-Flex devices on DeviceNet with 20-COMM-D Series-B module. I have installed the modules and the LEDs PORT/MOD/NET-A are steady Green. I have programmed the 150-SMC-Flex for Soft Start and Soft Stop Parameters. I am trying to give DeviceNet Out Signal to start the motor connected to 150-SMC-Flex. For this Motor to start I have enabled Logic Command bit 1 to ON State. In my PLC program, controller tags: Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0] to Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[4] are mapped for DNET Node Output and Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:I.Data[0]to Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:I.Data[4] are mapped for DNET Node Input. By this mapping, my plc logic makes bit Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].1 == ON making sure that Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].0 == OFF, Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].8 == OFF, Comm_Rack_DeviceNet:2:O.Data[0].9 == OFF.For some reason the motor is not getting started and the 150-SMC-Flex LEDs remain Steady Green and LCD displays Stopped. Am I missing anything? Please help me to rectify this issue. I appreciate your any help in advance! Best Regards, Pramod ### Assistant: Try first to follow indications in Aid 45475 and see if it helps... :smileytongue: Just another info missed in your post... which are the indications over the Devicenet Scanner display ? - fuzzy logic Forgive me for oversimplifying and may be trivial, but do you have a rung in your logic that enables the Devicenet scanner module? O.CommandRegister.Run should be on. He he, I was not asking this directly, but just like to know from the user here the same thing as you fordtt ... as you see I've asked the Scanner display indication... just to know if it shows something like 80 or IDLE.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Hello Fuzzy, The document that you mentioned in your first post is excellent. I went through this and I modified my control wiring and it worked perfect. Thank you very much for your help! Best Regards,Pramod You're welcome, I'm happy you've solved ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Ambiguous tag status For 1794-IRT8 module, in what each condition the following tags will turn on? Fault.0~31 DiagnosticStatus.0~15 DiagnosticStatus1~4 Ch0~7FaultAlarm ### Assistant: Fault.0~31 Answer is in your other thread (remember to close it :smileytongue: ) DiagnosticStatus.0~15 See image below, taken from the module User Manual , page 4-4: DiagnosticStatus1~4 See image below: Ch0~7FaultAlarm See image below: Conditions for last three diagnostic data above: Double Kudos please.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Wait until you answer all my questions for double Kudos!:smileywink: Fault0~31 still ambiguous in the thread and has no further reply.:smileysad: Are DiagnosticStatus.0~3 duplicate with DiagnosticStatus1~4 witch refer to Diagnostic Status? Are Ch0~7FaultAlarm duplicate with DiagnosticStatus.08~15? Are ColdJunctionAlarm1&2 duplicate with DiagnosticStatus.05~06? Why there is duplication?:smileysurprised: Waiting for Kudos, my answer below in blue... :smileytongue:cfhung wrote: Wait until you answer all my questions for double Kudos!:smileywink: Fault0~31 ... see this thread Are DiagnosticStatus.0~3 duplicate with DiagnosticStatus1~4 witch refer to Diagnostic Status? Yes Are Ch0~7FaultAlarm duplicate with DiagnosticStatus.08~15? Yes Are ColdJunctionAlarm1&2 duplicate with DiagnosticStatus.05~06? Yes Why there is duplication?:smileysurprised: It may be useful to check with just one compare if DiagnosticStatus is different than 0, then a fault exists...after that you may see the other bits to go deeper in the diagnostic. - fuzzy logic DiagnosticStatus may not be used to check with just one compare to determine if there is fault or not. Even if all 16 bits DiagnosticStatus=0 there still could be fault, e.g., Fault.0~7=1. Is that right? :smileysurprised: No, it isn't right ! DiagnosticStatus indicates if there is a module configuration error or wire-off (let's say, module related alarms) , Fault bits are related to communication faults... they have different meanings. Could be I've been not so precise in my last statement, I may try another way here: It may be useful to check with just one compare if DiagnosticStatus is different than 0, then a module related alarm (i.e. either channel wire-off or wrong configuration) exists...after that you may see the other bits to go deeper in the diagnostic. It is better now ?! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Please confirm if the following description correct or not: DiagnosticStatus.0~.3 and DiagnosticStatus1~4 represent module configuration and/or hardware errors, and these bits are module related alarms. DiagnosticStatus.5 and .6 are used for Ch 0~3 and 4~7 CJC diagnostic. DiagnosticStatus.8~.15 are used for Ch0~7 wire-off detection Fault.0~7 will turn on when there is fault related to communication problems. Fault.8~.15 have no use. As usual, my answer are below in blue ... :smileysurprised: cfhung wrote: Please confirm if the following description correct or not: DiagnosticStatus.0~.3 and DiagnosticStatus1~4 represent module configuration and/or hardware errors, and these bits are module related alarms. YES DiagnosticStatus.5 and .6 are used for Ch 0~3 and 4~7 CJC diagnostic. YES DiagnosticStatus.8~.15 are used for Ch0~7 wire-off detection. YES Fault.0~7 will turn on when there is fault related to communication problems. YES, all together Fault.8~.15 have no use. YES, reserved - fuzzy logic As fault.0~7 will turn on all together when there is fault related to communication problems. What kind of communication problems we may have? Connection errors would normally be caused by a module fault or communication loss to the module. 90% of the time, the resulting error code returned would be 515 or 516 (Connection Timed Out). Aid 25325 (already mentioned to you some thread ago... :smileywink: ) contains some indications of possible faults at the end of the technote. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Hanging external program I am new to RSView and need to debug a problem where external program in VB6 hanging after a week or so. An OPC driver is used to collect data from PLC's. Any advice from an expert as to what could possibly issues, would be appreciated. Thanks ### Assistant: Welcome to the Forum, Ron. The first handful of questions I'd ask you are: Does this system involve RSView32, RSView ME, or RSView SE ? The ME/SE products are also called FactoryTalk View in their current incarnation. Is the VB6 program using RSView32 as an OPC Server, or is it using the most common data server for RSView, called RSLinx Classic ? Is the VB6 program using OPC, or DDE, or some other mechanism to interface with the Rockwell software product ? Is the VB6 program on the same computer as the RSView or RSLinx project, or on another computer connected by a network ? What operating system is being used ? What versions of RSView and RSLinx are being used ? How do you recover from the VB6 application hangup ? Do you restart the VB6 application, restart RSView, restart RSLinx, restart the computer ? Thanks. I am using RSView32 6.3.The external program I am using is VB6 built with SP6.System I am running is W2K SP4 with VB6 SP6 redistributables installed.I am using GE Fanuc's LogicPC OPC server.When my app hangs, I need to restart the computer or kill all the processes belonging to RSView32.My understanding of the architecture of the setup is that OPC server is gathering data from PLC's.RSView32 polls OPC server to update it's display.My app make ROI calls to retrieve data.I hope it explains enough. I'd like to know what hang means in this context. Is this something that your VB application is doing, or is it RSView32? If it is the VB application, can you tell what subroutine is executing and what it is doing? If you are running on a computer with multiple CPUs, that has been known to cause problems with the RSView32 ROI. If possible, I would recommend upgrading to the latest version. If not, be sure you are using the Processor Affinity tool from tech note 7754 Those details do help. That's a very unusual setup, using a third-party OPC server to get data into RSView32 and then using a VB application to get data from RSView32 using the RSView Object Interface (ROI). To make it that much more fun, we're dealing with Windows 2000 and RSView32 from the same generation. Any patches or solutions from current technology won't apply unless you can perform some upgrades. Does your VB application perform writes to RSView32 ? I found two documents in the Knowledgebase that describe batches for RSView32 6.40 and 7.00 to fix a lockup condition related to COM re-entry. Hang means that my VB app does not respond to any mouse click or anything. I am yet to figure out what's causing it, because it happens randomly. Sometimes it will run over a week and sometimes it will hang in a couple of day. I've installed Processor Affinity tool on W2K machine. It is running dual processor. Does Processor Affinity have to run while RSView is running? If Current CPU indicate 0, I hope that means it is using CPU 0 only. And thanks for your knowledge. Yes, I am using WritePendingValue.According to the log I had put in, in my app, it started on a subroutine, but never left. And within the subroutine, it calls GetTag() and if the tag status is roTagStatusValid, it calls Tag.WritePendingValue.So it's either GetTag() or WritePendingValue, that's not returning. You are correct if the Task Manager shows only CPU0 selected, then that's the only one that will be used. Regarding the Affinity tool, you need to be careful to use the switches properly. I looked in the help file and the two that look important are shown below: /M = Start monitoring /S = Set all the possible active processes to their settings and exit The true test of whether it is set correctly is to launch RSView32 and then confirm using Task Manager that the various RSView32 processes are all using the same CPU. Are you talking about CPU column in Task Manager, i.e. CPU usage?I've added my app, of which two instances are running, to RSView32 Group. In Task Manager, one of my app seem to use CPU 01, 02, 03 briefly and goes back to CPU0. And so does Processor Affinity. Is that expected? None of RSview related apps seem to be assigned to CPU other than 0. Ronf, I was referring to the Task Manager, Processes Tab, right-click on a particular process and select Set Affinity. You should see that CPU0 is the only one checked for each of the RSView32 processes. Does that help? Yes, thank you. I didn't realize Task Manager had that feature. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx PCC driver keeps disappearing Everytime I power up my laptop and try to use RSLinx, I have to re-configure the driver for my PCC card. It disappears from my Configured Drivers list every time I shut down the computer. I **think** it's only been doing this for the last few weeks; previously the driver would be there when I powered up (as I said, I **think**). I can't recall anything (software upgrades, new software loaded, etc) that changed recently to cause the problem. If fact, last week I upgraded to RSLinx 2.54 (from 2.4 something I believe), and this disappearing PCC driver problem persisted through the upgrade. Anybody know what causes this? ### Assistant: May you please also post the PC OS are you using ? - fuzzy logic Windows XP (SP2) on a standard- issue Dell Latitude D830 I do have a very similar configuration, same OS and service pack, and it works... :smileysurprised: Anyway, try first to check the correct installation of Windows driver: Click on  Start  on Computer's Desktop, Settings, Control Panel, Administrtive Tools, Computer Management Double click on Device Manager, and on the right hand side of the Computer's screen click on the plus sign ( + ) next to Workstation Click on the plus sign ( + ) next to Allen Bradley PCMCIA Family Should see  Allen Bradley 1784-PCC Series B ( this means the Driver installed sucessfully ) If the 1784-PCC card is displayed in Device Manager with a yellow exclamation or question mark then, the Driver is not installed correctly. In this case right click on the PCC card and then, select Uninstall to uinstall the Driver for the card. After uninstalling the Driver Power Down the Computer, remove PCC card, re-insert the PCC card power Computer back on and re-install the Driver, following indications in Aid 33676. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic No question mark nor exclamation point. Properties box says the driver is working correctly. Try to apply what indicated in Aid 39930. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I performed the driver flush as described, with no change in behavior. However, I noticed something along the way. The PCC driver doesn't disappear when the reboot the computer, it disappears when I stop and restart RSLinx. Linx starts up with an empty Configured Drivers list. I don't know if the disappearing act involves ALL Linx drivers, or just the PCC. I haven't been using any other drivers lately. So, now the only thing I may suggest is to clean uninstall RSLinx following indications in Aid 8384... then try the reinstall, and if you want, try the last 2.55 version to see if it is better... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Bah. I did the whole system clean-up/removal procedure, reinstalled Linx 2.54 and it's still exactly the same. I'm afraid, I've no other ideas... just I've heard in past about some RSLinx issues related to the PCMCIA , in a PC where only one slot was available... if you've more then one slot available, you may try to use the other one (unless already done) and see what happens... but I don't know if it is the case... Apologize not to be able to help more on that.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Task Execution Understanding I have a simple question regarding the execution of tasks in the CLX processor. Here is my configuration. Task 1 - 10ms Priority 1 -> ScanTime is 1.5ms,Task 2 - 500ms Priority 10 -> ScanTime is .9msNo Continuous Task, No Motion Task Why is the max interval time (time between triggers) for Task 1 always greater than 10ms. There is nothing of higher priority to interrupt it or delays its execution. It reads like 10.5ms. What causes this? The processor is a 1756-L1 (not the fastest). As I understand it, the triggers should come every 10ms unless something is running with higher priority to delay it. Any thoughts? ### Assistant: synrobot, The logic execution tasks (Periodic, Event and Continuous User Tasks) are not the only things happening in the controller operating system. There are a number of other things the controller does behind the scenes that you have limited control over, like: Updating the Coordinated System Time Watchdog timing Scanning I/O, I/O Forcing Responding to Messages Initiating Messages Serial Port comms (I'm guessing not in your app) Redundancy comms (if you have a redundant system -- probably not your L1) Safety tasks (again, probably not your L1) Motion axes Probably some other stuff I forgot or don't know about and/or am not allowed to know about ;-) I am guessing that some of these get pre-empted by Periodic Tasks (like, I think, responding to Messages, but I believe they are still received and buffered...); some are probably higher priority and don't get pre-empted. If the controller OS keeps all the higher priority internal goings-on down to a half millisecond max in an L1, that's pretty good in my book, especially if your I/O RPIs are in the 5ms or less range. But my book is mostly process stuff (flows, temperatures, pressures, pH, etc.), and those applications are much slower and (unlike yours, apparently) can tolerate 0.5 ms of jitter. I don't know how much better an L61 might be. (Maybe someone else on the forum could answer this.) Sorry if this wasn't much practical help.Dale, W8ABZ A lot of the OS House Keeping should take place in the time slice specified by the user in the Continuous task. You can see the Time Splice setting in the 'Advanced' tab of the processor properties. So . . . try adding the continuous task back in (even though it will be empty) and play around with the time slice settings. I'm not sure how all this housekeeping takes place when there is no continuous task to time slice it into? Be interesting to find out if this makes a difference or not. Unfortunately I don't have a L1 floating around to try it out on. All, Just some additional information. If I open up the Logix 5000 Task Monitor Tool (it's installed by default with RSLogix 5000) on my L61 and select the Processes tab, here's what I see: (This is a lab controller, not on-process scanning real I/O, so the numbers are kind of artificially low.) These processes are the OS tasks I was talking about. User Tasks (Periodic, Event, Continuous) are listed after these on this page (if you want -- there's a button to Show / Hide User Tasks). The controller above is running a single Periodic Task at 100 ms, and the monitor window is 500 ms wide. I'm not sure how often the OS processes are executed, so I don't know if the 2474 us is all in one chunk or broken up across the 500,000 us window in multiple parts. But I'm guessing some of the OS processes could be higher priority than User Tasks and delay your 10ms task up to a half a millisecond pretty easily -- especially in an L1 (the above is an L61). So open up the Task Monitor Tool and look into your controller and see what it's doing. You can dink with the update rate and some other parameters. Check out its Help pages for more info. Happy experimenting!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Wire off detection 1794-IRT8/A module provides wire off detection. Also, in wire off condition the analog input signal will be set to maximum value of the range. If the input signal is programmed to trip certain device in RSLogix 5000, is it possible to inhibit the trip logic when in wire off condition? In wire-off condition, what tag will set to 1? If the wire-off problem is fixed, will the wire-out status tag be automatic reset? If not, then how? ### Assistant: re manual 1794-6.5.12 page 4-4 38 of 72 Read Word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits – represent module configuration and/or hardware errors.08–15 (10–17) Fault alarm bits – An alarm bit is set (1) when an individual input lead opens (broken,disconnected). If the alarm is enabled, the channel reads maximum value. Bit 08 (10) correspondsto input channel 0, bit 09 (11) to channel 1, etc. so you need to pull that word into a tag and use appropriate bit in your ladder. Word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits – How do these 4 bits represent module configuration and/or hardware errors? For example, if the diagnostic bits show 2#0101, then what do we have? Also, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit DiagnosticStatus, 1-bit DiagnosticStatus1~3. How do these tags correspond to word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits? Word 9 08–15 Fault alarm bits – These bits are used for wire-off detection for each channel. However, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit Fault for that, what is the use for the rest 24 bits? cfhung, all the answers are HERE, please close some of your threads, some of them are just asking similar things in other manner... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Well, could not get answers from there. Ok, answer *are* there, anyway, if you prefer, I may duplicate them here, in blue :cfhung wrote: Word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits – How do these 4 bits represent module configuration and/or hardware errors? For example, if the diagnostic bits show 2#0101, then what do we have? 0001 and 0011 thru 1111 Reserved for factory use, so only 0010 is valid, no distinctions between configuration or hardware fault... Also, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit 16 bit DiagnosticStatus, 1-bit DiagnosticStatus1~3 4 . How do these tags correspond to word 9 00–03 Diagnostic bits? They are the same thing Word 9 08–15 Fault alarm bits – These bits are used for wire-off detection for each channel. However, RSLogix 5000 will create module defined tags: 32-bit Fault for that, what is the use for the rest 24 bits?Fault alarm bits are referred to individual channel, 32-bit Fault is module-wide tag, the first 8 bit of this word are used to indicate a communication problem, the rest of the bits in this word are not used.- fuzzy logic If the wire-off problem is fixed, will the correspondent FaultAlarm bit be automatic reset? Yes, for sure. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic To use wire-off dection Ch0~7FaultAlarm bit in user ladder may not inhibit the trip logic when in wire-off condition because the analog input signal will be set to maximum value of the range before the wire-off bit set to one. Is that right? As far as I can understand from the manuals and technotes, the IRT8 checks the line by trying to pull the line up to a positive potential. If the potential breaks down, the line is OK, if the potential is still above a limit after a defined time, the module reports a lead breakage( if enabled) So, it could happen the value is already clamped to max value and the fault bit isn't yet set. - fuzzy logic Wait, if the potential is still above a limit after a defined time, the module reports a lead breakage. What time is the delay time? Is the fault bit be set right after the module reports a lead breakage? If it does, then it should happen the value is already clamped to max value and the fault bit isn't yet set. Is there a way to inhibit a trip logic when in wire-off condition? The delay time is in the table below: So, the fault bit will go on after this time... Wire-off fault could be enabled/disabled using the Fault Mode Bits in the Configuration Data...see image below... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the information, but what I mean is how to inhibit a trip logic while enabling the wire-off function to keep alarm when in wire-off condition? Could ChxOverrangeAlarm bit be used? If the the wire-off function is disabled, except ChxFaultAlarm, will it also disable the input signal to be set to maximum value of the range? What about ChxOverrangeAlarm bit? Also, what are the tags Alarms.0~.15 used for? If a channel is configured as T type Thermocouple then the range for this thermocouple is –270 ~ 400℃. In the maximum temperature 400℃, T type thermocouple can only generate 20.872mV when the cold junction is 0℃. The input channel will never reach 100mV. How can the ChxOverrangeAlarm bit to be used? If all unused channels are not short, what the mechanism for them to affect system throughput? If a channel is configured as RTD but not used, since the nominal range for RTD is 0.00 to 500.00 ohms, will ChxUnderrangeAlarm bit be set if short the input channel? Why there are different delay times for different temperature elements? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Fault Information 1794-6.5.2 FLEX I/O Analog Modules User Manual, Page 5-33, described that 1794-IE8/B Image Table Mapping input size has 9 words, including input channel 0~7 and status word. The status word only provides under range and power-up information without module fault, but the controller tags in RSLogix 5000 will allocate a DINT fault tag. Also, the module property has status for module fault.Is there any missing in the instruction manual? What kind of module fault will be provided? Are they Connection Request Error, Service Request Error, Module Configuration Invalid and Electronic Keying Mismatch? How do these individual fault statuses relate to the fault tag? ### Assistant: Manual is correct, these are all the words the module has inside its Input image... the Module status is added in a Logix system due to the connection's management of those controllers... When you create a Direct Connection with a module (the case of your Analog Module), there is a real-time, data transfer link between the controller and an I/O module. The controller maintains and monitors the connection with the I/O module. Any break in the connection, such as a module fault or the removal of a module while under power, sets fault bits in the data area associated with the module.The module *fault* word is thus added to the other input words coming from the module. Note that this doesn't happen if you configure a Rack Optimized connection with a digital module as a rack connection transfers only input and output to/from the controller. Any other input data the module would return in a direct connection, such as status or diagnostics, are not returned in the Rack Image. So, in conclusion, the controller always knows the Status of that module, so you have it reported in the Module Info tab you've indicated, and that is available in both Direct and Rack-Optimized connection. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Ho do these fault statuses relate to the fault tag? Could user routine access these fault statuses? If not, what is the fault tag used for? When a Module Fault is detected over a Direct Connection to a module, Fault tag's first 8 bits go on...there isn't differentiation between faults, always all these bits on.... :smileysurprised: When you have this situation, you may also monitor the Module Info tab to see what is indicated for Status; a user routine could retrieve informations about status of every module in the I/O tree through GSV instruction - Module object, but not exactly what is described in the Status field of the Module Tab (this is only a RS5000 diagnostic as far as I know). Anyway you will be able to retrieve many and enough useful informations... see for reference the following technotes: Aid 47624 - Aid 24162 - Aid 19732 Hope this clarifies.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks for providing some technotes, but more questions arise. As you mentioned that, “When a Module Fault is detected over a Direct Connection to a module, Fault tag's first 8 bits go on...there isn't differentiation between faults, always all these bits on....”, if so, one bit is enough for the fault tag, why 32 bits are used? For Aid 47624, there is GSV_Example.ACD. In the GSV instruction, there are FaultCode and FaultInfo attributes. What kind of fault information we will have when the module is faulted? For example, when the FaultCode showed 516, this means “unconnected request timed out”, then what will the FaultInfo be? Well, about the Fault tag, I have to say it is not documented the why they use 8 bits to indicate the fault... anyway, my guess is they want to keep all Fault tags inside modules the same type, then they always use a 32 bit tag.In fact, if you create other modules (local or remote with direct connection), you will always see the Fault tag as a DINT, so I think this is done to create similarity. FaultInfo contains an Extended Error Code... we may *roughly* say that FaultCode contains the generic error code (i.e timeout) and Fault Info the specific error code (i.e. No buffer memory) see for example Aid 34769 to understand how it may be useful. Search also inside RSLogix 5000 online help for Extended Error Codes for a more detailed list of codes. - fuzzy logic There are many error codes, extended error codes and additional major fault codes for a module. Could all these error/fault information be reported in connection and module info tab on module properties of RSLogix 5000? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Fatal error when selecting a 1769-OV32T in RSLogix 5000 When I try to add a 1769-OV32T device to my project, there appears a Fatal error message, what can be a solution?I've tried several different devices without any trouble, only the 1769-OV32T gives this error. Regards, Jack ### Assistant: It is a known issue, see Aid 60801... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Well I've searched for it, but couldn't find anything, thanks!RegardsJack Uh ?! :smileysurprised: Here a screenshot taken from the suggested LINK you can find in the indicated technote: I suggest to install both. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Adding 1794-IF4I into existing 1794-ACNR15 & 1756-CNBR network What is the correct procedure to add a 1794-IF4I module into a Control Logix plc with existing 1756-CNBR & 1794-ACNR15 modules, the ACNR15 has spare capacity.Logix & Control Net set up ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the procedure explained in Aid 46577 and see if it helps... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk SE Station Server 15 display Can anyone tell me what this really is? My client ordered this thinking he can install on it 15 computers. I believe it is a stand alone server that can have 15 clients. ### Assistant: Hmmm... nice User Name ! :smileysurprised: :smileytongue: Well, I guess the correct description for your software is : FactoryTalk View Site Edition Station 15 Display... FactoryTalk View Site Edition Station allows stand-alone (non-distributed) applications to run on a single computer. With this software license you may run a View SE application with a limit of 15 graphic displays in it, on a single PC. HERE you may find more infos about View SE. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thank you. That is exactly what I needed. I like your handle too. I own a company named FuzzyLogix. So ... which one of you is going to sue the other one for trademark infringement? :smileyvery-happy: JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: how to change the other display's stringdisplay value from another display HI:I created one HEADER display which will be always on top of HMI screen, and many BODY screens which are actual main applicationI need once main body screen changes, the stringDisplay.Value at HEADER will be changed from HMI tag where store the BODY's display name I did these ways:from startup Macro:1> display HEADER2> Display BODY1 at BODY1 screen VBA code, sub Display_AnimationStart()dim ds as displaysset ds as LoadedDisplaysds.Item(HEADER).stringDisplay.Value=BODY1 title however, when runtime, it cause VBA error  run time error 450, Wrong nubmer of arguments or invalid property assignment not sure what happen, I guest VBA is executing before HEADER display fully open, so that VBA can not find HEADER display any better solution thank you ### Assistant: You haven't given us all your code so so its hard to fully comment But this works OK Private Sub Display_AnimationStart() Dim ds As Displays Set ds = LoadedDisplays 'Setting string Value ds.Item(HEADER).Text1.Caption = BODY1 title 'Setting the display Caption ds.Item(HEADER).Caption = BODY1 titleEnd Sub Note Text1 is just a string object and is not connected to a tag if you what to change a tag value then that is different. Hope it helps:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation licenses Hi everybody, I have a question I hope somebody can help me. I have installed RSLogix 5000 and RSView32, but I am going to change my computer in two months from now. The company needs the laptop that I have now. What happen with the licenses if I transfer them to an external hard disk without using them for that period of time? Can I activate them later without any problem? How many times can I activate them in different PC's? And, during the time down they still run their time? I mean, the license agreement gets pause? thank for your help. ### Assistant: Assuming here you're using the *new* FactoryTalk Activation... you've to do a Rehost of those licenses to the new HostID (the external Hard Disk)... no problem about the inactivity period. If you think to not use them during that period of time, then do the rehost to delete the activations from the actual HostID and have them available in the Rockwell Activation Server; you will get those activations after two months. If you need them also during that period of time, then you have to rehost two times, ones to the external HD, then after two months to the new PC. Each serial number can be rehosted using the website up to three times in any 12-month period. Rehosting an activation a fourth time requires a call to Rockwell Automation Technical Support. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CONTROLNET PROBLEM Hi everybody, I have a problem whit a ControlNet Network, this has about 10 nodes with each processor that send messages and Produced-Consumed Tag. The screen of two procesor show me this mesagge:1756-CNB/E Bx011756-CNB/E Bx05 How I can resolve the problem? Thanks for the support. DG ### Assistant: Welcome to the Forum. Is this a brand new system ? Has it run in the past ? Did anything recently change prior to these fault codes being displayed ? Those are not, of course, normal status indications for the 1756-CNB module. They sound like operating system crash data. This may be something that cannot be solved by a community forum, and will require you to contact Rockwell Automation Technical Support directly. According to Aid 20244, the indication BXnn represents the number (nn) of times that CNB's bandwidth has been exceeded. First try to upgrade the firmware of those modules to release 11.005... if it doesn't solve, then go through your application to see if you can free some of the CNBs bandwidth changing some settings... The 11.005 firmware seems to be only available inside the 1756-Lxx Standard Redundancy Bundle with 1757-SRM v16.56 std (see Release Notes - be aware this issue is not indicated) from the Firmware Upgrade web site. Firmware 11.005 has to be cosidered the same as 11.05 or 11.5 ... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix + V16.11 Firmware = Expensive Paperweight? I was recently told that firmware V16.11, when loaded into a CompactLogix made the CPU inoperable, requiring the CPU to be returned to Rockwell for replacement.I have had quite a bit of a search in the knowledgebase etc. but have been unable to find any details on this thus far. Can anyone confirm if this is the case or not ,and if it was the above mentioned firmware revision?Anyone have a link to info on this? Thanks. ### Assistant: Hi Curly, I guess you're talking about firmware 16.21 for L4x controllers... (otherwise please post again your hardware type...) Take a look to Aid 58101, the above firmware should not be used to flash a series B L4x controller, or the CPU will became inoperable...:smileymad:Provisions have been made so this cannot be initiated directly from ControlFlash. However, it has been discovered that it can be initiated from RSLogix5000. I don't remember the existance of firmware 16.11 for a CompactLogix controller... but maybe my brain is not completely operative right now... :smileytongue: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes, this was in reference to a CompactLogix L4x.There may well not have been a v16.11, was unsure of the exact revision number that was the problem (hence the question).Lucky, as I recently flashed an L43 up via RSLogix5000 but the version I had was 16.23 so it was fine. Thanks, that clarifies the situation – don’t use v16.21 or earlier on a CompactLogix Series B L4x Fuzz, don't you think this information should be PROMINENTLY displayed on the firmware download page? The only place that I know of the warning is on the knowledgebase page you referenced. Hi TJ, yes you're right, it should be CLEARLY indicated there... the table reports 16.21 only in the L4x series A column, but anyway is not easy to understand correctly the problem from there. However I think the fact you may start a wrong update of a controller from within RS5000 is the bigger problem... I mean you may have some firmwares on your PC, you have not to mind which are the correct for your hardware, should be the system to guide you, avoiding the use of the dangerous one. Unfortunately I think now is too late to solve this in the software for the customer who already installed it...thus there should be warnings in the firmware download site and I think would be also useful to include a paper in the L4x series B box to indicate the risk... - fuzzy logic Fuzz, best idea I've heard; there SHOULD be a warning in the box with the processor. TJ & Fuzzy,I agree, at the least a warning paper should be in the box, especially since it is apparently very easy for incorrect firmware to be loaded without any warning given. I have heard recently of two such CPUs making a transition from processor to paperweight; both had to be replaced.Hmmm... I wonder if Rockwell would supply a replacement free of charge if someone flashed up a processor that was outside warrantee? Do either of you have a suitable contact at Rockwell (or maybe you are from Rockwell?!) to whom the paper warning suggestion can be forwarded to?Rgds. Sorry Curly, I'm an OEM. I have a very good relationship with our local Rockwell team, and this has been suggested, but as far as I know nothing's come of it. On the surface, it appears it's cheaper to replace the PLC instead of a physical warning of the bad firmware/hardware combination. Hi Curly, already suggested locally, hope this will reach the right persons and evolve in actions sooner :smileysurprised: Maybe also Moderators here can help to forward this to the right group... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Sorry, fuzzy. You're ascribing more power to me than I have! :) I've forwarded the suggestion on, too, but honestly, I'd expect better response if customer's starting sending this suggestion up through local Rockwell Sales offices. They often respond faster to customers than support folks... JHutch OK, JHutch, thanks anyway for your help... I was hoping in your magic wand.... :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Guys, an update to this topic... release 8 of ControlFlash has been released and one of the new features involves installing a new <ControlFlash.dll> file that prevents RSLogix 5000 v16 software from auto flashing a 1768-L4x Series B controller with Series A firmware. A little bit late, will be your thought.... :smileytongue: See this technote.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLogix 500 Could someone point me to the good link where I could find the differences between RSLogix 500 Offline/Online Programming Software and RSLogix 500 Professional Software.Thanks. ### Assistant: See the Selection Guide, starting at page 80. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PowerFlex DC Fram D 690V Document Hi, I see PF DC power rating has extension,but where can see the fram D document?Please help,thank's. ### Assistant: Can you post a little more information on what you're asking? Hi there, if you are referring to whether or not the PF DC has been extended to 600/690V, unfortunately :smileysad: that won't be happening for another year yet. The power posted power extension was going from 400hp to 900hp @ 460V, but unfortunately nothing yet for the 600/690V class yet. And trust me, I'm eagerly awaiting this to happen. Cheers. n"}
{"text": "### Human: No activations in the Current Activations tab Having issue with FactoryTalk Activation tool not giving me any Current activations. When I go under the settings tab it states The activation server (lmgrd.exe) has not been installed as a Windows service. I would like help in figure out what needs to be done to fix this problem. ### Assistant: I guess you've software installed those have Concurrent Activations... First check if your activations are present in FactoryTalk Activation Tool under Rehost tab...that means they are correctly allocated in the right folder and the file .lic is correct...otherwise you have to go thru the FAQ and see how to get activations... After this you need to install the Activation Server, downloadable from here:http://files.rockwellautomation.com/Public/FactoryTalk_Activation_Server.zip Then, go in the last tab of the tool and press Start, to run the Activation server...it should remain started...Open again the Current Activation tab, and you have to see your activations, so that the software can run normally. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Global Message Display in PanelBuilder32 on a PV550. Can someone tell me if there is a way to create a master/Global Message display that I can place throughout my Project, and update all them from one location? ### Assistant: If I've correctly understood, you're asking about the Global Objects. A global object is a single object that can be referenced multiple times in an application while retaining the object’s properties. The object is created and stored only once in the PanelView regardless of the number of times it is used. See PB32 Getting Results guide pag.60 for more infos....PB32 online help also contains some hints. - fuzzy logic I understand that much, but with that you are only allowed to place one global object per screen, and it has to have the same variable tag name. What I'm after is something that will allow me to make a global message display that I can change the tag variable, but keep the text global? By having my text or message states global, I could then update all of them from one location. Currently I take one message display and copy it 5 time on one screen. Each message display has a different Tag/Variable. They all have the same number states/messages. Depending on the tag/variable that controls that message display, will determine what is to be displayed. The screen's purpose is to show the last ten alarm messages using a FIFO style setup. Meaning once all message displays have a message, then it kicks out the first one and everything downshifts so the new one can come in. I understand... unfortunately the feature you're searching isn't available on Panelview Standard / Panelbuilder32 :smileysad: Panelview Plus instead has more flexibility in Global Objects use and Parameter files... but is another story... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic This sounds like something I have done in the past. I think you may be able to do what you want by using the Existing Text feature. Each state or message has a Text ID associated with it. Take a look at the properties of the first message display you created. Under the Alarm Messages tab, the far right column lists the Text ID value for that state/message. If you want to use this same text in another message, simply enter this value into the Text ID field of the appropriate state of your other message as well. This way, if you want to change what the text says, simply go to the menu bar>Tools>Text Editor..., scroll down to the appropriate Text ID and change your text there. Any object state that references that Text ID will now be updated. I don't know all of the specifics, but if you search Existing Text or Text ID in the PanelBuilder32 docs or knowledgebase, you can get a little more info. Hopefully this leads you down the right path. Regards,Ron n"}
{"text": "### Human: Navigation Design Assistance I'm trying to develop an application with a dynamic navigation scheme. I have four navigation bars: First, Second, Third and Fourth. Each navigation bar has 9 buttons. Each navigation bar is related to another in some fashion ... When a button is pressed on First, the navigation for Second is constructed, (i.e. if a display is to be shown on release it's defined, the icons shown on the buttons are defined, the color of the buttons are defined, etc). When a button is pressed on Second, the navigation for Third is constructed. When a button is pressed on Third, the navigation for Fourth is constructed. Essentially, at any given moment, a button on a navigation bar can look and act differently; it all depends on where the user currently is within the entire application's navigation scheme. All navigation bars exist on one display, the Main display. The displays the buttons navigate to are overlaid onto the Main display. I've taken this approach to keep the display count low. If I stuck to keeping the navigation bars on the displays themselves and forgoing the Main display, I'd end up suffering later when alterations and updates were needed, (ex. adding new displays/updating navigation). If I had a display for every unique navigation bar and used them as pop-ups, my display count would grow significantly, (and so would my licensing costs!). Therefore, the idea of having one Main display handling navigation is desired. At the moment, I've developed a prototype using VBA throughout. I make heavy use of the ExecuteCommand method within my VBA. Since ExecuteCommand executes asynchronously, I'm running into timing issues ... if I navigate quickly through my application, my VBA code ends up getting backed up and functionality breaks/misbehaves. Is there a way to make ExecuteCommand wait until the commands it's executing have finished? Is there an alternative approach to what I've discussed that I'm not considering? ### Assistant: Maybe you could start with the buttons disabled and only enable them after the ExecuteCommand has time to complete. I've sometimes used a macro to issue a series of commands and set a bit at the end. VBA could be waiting until BIT = 1 before it executes, so that prevents executing prior to the other commands. For ease of use, I put an invisible numeric input in the graphic and use this to monitor the bit. Once it turns on, VBA issues your ExecuteCommands, then sets the bit back to 0 using NumericInput.Value = 1 and NumericInput.Download. This might be worth a try. Also saw tech note 44936 for a Previous and Next Display function, which is somewhat similar to what you are doing. It's not clear to me what your ExecuteCommands have to do with your navigation menus. What are you doing with the 4 levels of navigation? Are they all display commands?Instead of overlaying displays onto a big Main display, you might want to consider using a docked header display that contains your menus.You can use visibility and VBA to set the menus, not necessarily ExecuteCommand. if you can provide a more detailed sample of what your operator might do and how your screens change, it might make more sense. Right now it sounds to me like your navigation menus are being used for more than just navigation and while you CAN do that, it's not the best design for usability. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Turning Machine Edition Displays into pictures (.jpg, .gif or .bmp) Does FactoryTalk View Studio have a tool to export or convert graphical displays into image files? I know i can printscreen the page, and plop it into a graphics software package (photoshop, paint) and crop the image to just get the screen, but is there a native function? I'm trying to get screenshots so i can place them in a user manual. Thanks ### Assistant: Shades234, I'd like the ability to do that as well. The only way I've been able to do it is exactly as you described with external screen captures, while running the screen on my computer. It's a time-consuming, inelegant, brute-force approach, but did get the job done. My best suggestion is brute force, but there's a way you can skip the cropping part. Just do a CTRL-ALT-PrintScreen. It will grab the window that has focus so it should grab the Runtime window only on your computer. There is a project documentor tool for version 5.0 you can get in the knowledge base, I know from the product manager this tool will be built into version 5.1 whenever it comes out. For version 4.0 all you got is the print screen/snagit options. Try this - its free.Screen Capture Disclaimer - it's not mine, and use it at your own risk. You get what you pay for. I like and use FullShot. http://www.inbit.com/fullshot.html. Besides just capturing screens it has features you do not know you need until you have them available. It does window capture as well as whole screen. It supports 18 file types and I use it for file type conversion often. Its editing features are fairly good. It can capture entire web pages and not just what you can see on the screen at one time. Cursor capture can be turned off and on. And more. After awhile you will wonder how you ever worked without the features. They have 3 versions. Standard version for $49.95 is more powerful than many at the same price or more. Professional for $79.95 is well worth the extra $30.Enterprise version for $149.99 is a waste of the extra $70. What is your time worth? This program will save you time. Spend the money and get FullShot professional. It will allow you to make really professional manuals. Sorry I sound like high pressure salesman and / or a preacher. 'You get what you pay for' For sure! Maybe even better to say 'If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys' in this particular case? The more choices people have the better! Or like the Petunia's think.  Oh No, Not Again!  Most of the time you want pictures of your screens at runtime, not how they look in Studio. Screen shots are a lot more informative when they show animations, number, and indications. Therefore, using a 3rd party screen capture utility while your HMI is running makes more sense anyway. P.S. personally, I still use Print-Screen/MS Paint to crop/copy/paste, but I know a lot of people use Fullshot and like it a lot. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix5 Conversion? V.5 to V.3 Hi, I have an old version of Logix5 and I'm trying to open the attached file. I'm assuming the file is a newer version. Can someone convert this to V.3 for me so I can open it? ### Assistant: Hi, try to extract all the files in the attached .zip inside a new folder, open RSLogix5 and file - open the .X5 file; this should import the project.After that, go in the Tools menu, ASCII Import, OK, and then select the files one by one using the indicated extensions; this should import the database. If you still have problems, post again.... :smileywink: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Awesome, worked perfectly. Thanks a lot. I am also getting the proper views from this topic. It helps to get the accurate information about the proper views. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747-SN Block transfer addressing I have a two part question. How do I address the I/O in the remote chassis and does the scanner map the digital I/O discreet? The scanner is configured for block transfer. Remote chassis hardware configuration listed below. 7-slot chassis Slot-0 1747-ASBSlot-1 1746-IA16Slot-2 1746-OA-16Slot-3 1746-NI4Slot-4 1746-NI4Slot-5 1746-NI4Slot-6 SPARE SLOT Thank you, Kelvin kelvin@industrial-cs.com ### Assistant: Here is a very useful manual http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1747-um006_-en-p.pdf I'm agree with allentcm, there are many different configuration possibilities, so it is better to use the suggested manual to understand the best solution for you. Anyway, I'll try to report here an example of one of those possibilities, to help you to understand. Assuming the -SN module is installed in slot 1 of the main chassis; assuming the usage of 1 slot addressing mode as it is easier to explain/understand (page 3-7 of the manual). When the 1747-ASB module is configured for 1-slot addressing, the processor addresses one chassis slot as one logical group. Each slot, beginning with slot one, is sequentially assigned one word (16 bits) of the 1747-ASB module's input and output image. Assuming also the remote Logical Rack will be #0 So, the RSLogix500 -SN configuration will be the following: Your 7 slot chassis will occupy 3/4 of a Logical Rack in this addressing mode, starting from Group 0. The scanner's remote I/O image is divided into logical racks and further divided into logical groups. A full logical rack consists of eight input and eight output image words. A logical group consists of one input and one output word in a logical rack. Each logical group is assigned a number from 0 to 7. The number of racks available for remote I/O depends on the scanner you are using. Now, from the above, we'll have the following I/O addressing: I:<SN slot #>.<SN image word>/<bit #> O:<SN slot #>.<SN image word>/<bit #> Using Logical Rack 0, starting Group 0, the SN image word corresponds to the Logical Group # 1746-IA16 - I:1.0/0-151746-OA16 - O:1.1/0-15 Analog modules will use Block Transfer. Following the Dip-switches setting related to the above example. Remaining Dip-switches as required. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 string and numeric display text size changes between editing and run time?!? Hello, I am working with RSView32 ver 7.5. I am trying to display the date and time on my displays. I have a limited amount of room for it and I am using a sting display linked to system/dateandtimestring. I always like to have a border around displayed values on all my screens. I create a rectangle, send it to the back and place the string display inside the rectangle. I make it so the text is centered inside the rectangle nicely. WHen I go into runtime, I see that the text is significantly smaller than the rectangle. Any thoughts on what is happening? Thanks Here is a copy of the basic project. There is a screen called splash where I have been experimenting with this. ### Assistant: I didn't look at your project, but I've run across 2 things that will cause text to scale incorrectly: 1. Sizing the screen to the window at runtime2. Selecting Scale instead of Pan Both these settings can be found in your Display Settings. It's quick and easy to test; hopefully that's the issue. Thanks for the reply. I think the biggest part of the problem is the Font type used. I like to use Arial but it seems it doesnt like that for string displays. I was using Arial which is a true type font, but I found that if I just used Courier, it stayed at relatively the same size.I just dont like the look of Courier. I am not sure if this is the answer, but for now its good enough and I am moving on to other things with the project I am developing.. Again, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! The difference here is probably because Arial is a True Type font, while the Courier you picked is probably fixed width. I tend to use Arial myself and just avoid the display settings I mentioned before. But I'm glad this is working for you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Lost all axisname.AbsoluteReferenceStatus bits A four axis 1769-L43 with SERCOS based has been working fine for almost a year. All motors are MPL with multi-turn absolute encoders Then one morning all axisname.AbsoluteReferenceStatus bits were off. The encoders were still reading the correct value. Just moved the axis to the absolute home position using motion direct command and performed a MAH using motion direct commands. WHat can cause the system to loose all axisname.AbsoluteReferenceStatus bits at the same time? ### Assistant: Just trying to help, as I'm not an expert on this :smileytongue: Aid 47351 reports the cases where the bit is either set or reset. After that, you may consider three cases where a problem could be in the code: 1. MAH (Motion Axis Home) repeated more than once in code, thus resetting the absolute position reference. 2. MRP (Motion Redefine Position) repeated more than once in code, thus resetting the absolute position reference. 3. Changing from Linear to Rotary mode within the code. Double check if you're in one of these cases, then take the appropriate actions to solve. If you are not in those cases, please post again so that other folks here will have the possibility to help you more.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic The drives are Kinetix6000.There are no MAH or MRP instructions in the code. I use 'motion direct commands' to set the absolute position reference. In the event of an E73 or E76 fault when control power is removed from the system, the absolute reference bit will be cleared on AM modules. Note that these faults are rare and are typically caused by hardware failures or bent pins on the power rail. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error message trying to upload a 5000 program Error : The controller you requested contains firmware revision 13.31 I need to install the firmware for this revision .What is the best way to get this program? ### Assistant: You need to install version 13 of RSLogix 5000 on your PC. You may find it inside the installation disc for version 13 and above, if you have an active TechConnect contract you may also download it from the Software Updates web site. Otherwise you have to ask your Rockwell Automation representative. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Stack overflow error I have a program which uses the same 3 subroutines in sequence 3 times. The first subroutine has an input parameter which is a structure containing a few other structure, dint, int and bool (all together 20 bytes). Some of the structure elements are physical inputs of the PLC. For proper assigning of them they are also entered as input parameters of the first subroutine, next subroutine uses the same structures as an input parameter. The program works fine.I need to add one more input to the structure, so I added one more Boolean input on the end of the structure and one more input parameter for the firs subroutine. After this I have got Major fault Type:04 Code 84: Stack overflow. Stack too small to perform operation addressed to last line of subroutine header - this is parameter added by me. SBR(TR_TM, TR_TM.I.Motor, TR_TM.I.Motor_ComStatus, TR_TM.I.Node_IO_StatusA, TR_TM.I.Node_IO_StatusB, TR_TM.I.Node_IO_StatusC, TR_TM.I.ALPHA_GRUB, TR_TM.I.KOMP_CHF, TR_TM.I.KOMP_CMOD, TR_TM.I.KOMP_ALO, TR_TM.I.KOMP_AHI, TR_TM.I.KOMP_ALOLO, TR_TM.I.KOMP_AHIHI, TR_TM.I.KOMP_AUR, TR_TM.I.KOMP_AOR, TR_TM.I.GRUB_CHF, TR_TM.I.GRUB_CMOD, TR_TM.I.GRUB_ALO, TR_TM.I.GRUB_AHI, TR_TM.I.GRUB_ALOLO, TR_TM.I.GRUB_AHIHI, TR_TM.I.GRUB_AUR, TR_TM.I.GRUB_AOR, TR_TM.I.PRESS_CF, TR_TM.I.PRESS_CMOD, TR_TM.I.PRESS_AUR, TR_TM.I.PRESS_AOR, TR_TM.I.PB_RolDoc_Dn, TR_TM.I.PB_RolDoc_Up, TR_TM.I.PB_TranSkokFwd, TR_TM.I.PB_TranSkokBkw, TR_TM.I.PB_TranStart, TR_TM.I.PB_TranStop, TR_TM.I.SS_TranMan, TR_TM.I.SS_TranAuto, TR_TM.I.SS_TranWyl, TR_TM.I.SS_TranZal, TR_TM.I.SS_TranBkw, TR_TM.I.SS_TranFwd, TR_TM.I.SS_KompDown, TR_TM.I.SS_KompUp, TR_TM.I.PB_CiecieAck, TR_TM.I.ESD_PORECZ, TR_TM.I.DI_Metal, TR_TM.I.DI_Droga, TR_TM.I.DI_PowietrzeOK, TR_TM.I.ESD_GLOBAL, TR_TM.I.ESD_LOCAL, TR_TM.I.GumaZaTransp); Does anyone have any idea about the reason of this fault. It is not PLC and firmware depended, because I have checked this for L61 rev.13 and L63 rev.17 and it behaves in the same way. ### Assistant: If you can post your *.L5K program or a section of it, that would be a good step. I can't tell if you're really passing a UDT or if you are passing many individual elements. I have attached a part of programm which makes a problem. You can download it to PLC to see how it works. Jozef, here you've exceeded the stack size (yes, it was already clear :smileytongue: ). Only way is to avoid all the BOOL passing parameters; try to pass an array instead with some or all the needed BOOL inside it.Consider every BOOL passed consumes nearly the same stack bytes as a single Array or Structure... :smileysurprised:Done some tests here, deleted some of the BOOL on your JSR and passed a 100 DINT Array with success ! :smileysurprised: I may also add this consideration: IMO, the Reference Manual indication (page 440 )is either wrong or unclear about JSR limits:There are no restrictions, other than controller memory, on the number of nested routines you can have or the number of parameters you pass or return. This is in contrast with the Major Error indicated recovery method for Type 04 Code 84 Jozef got:Reduce the subroutine nesting levels or the number of Parameters passed. So, it is not a controller memory problem, but stack limits, and also I may say some restrictions are. :smileysurprised: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Battery change on a Micrologix 1500 What is the recommended frequency for changing the 1747 BA battery in a Micrologix 1500 unit. ie How often should they be changed ? ### Assistant: Here taken from Aid 17659 about the 1747-BA lifetime: If the 1747-BA is added when the primary battery is close to the end of it's life, an additional 3-5 years of life will be added. If the 1747-BA is added when the processor is first installed, an additional 1-2 years of total life will be added. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: what is LSP and LRP expansion ### Assistant: Are you asking about the number of expansion I/O modules can be added to the processor ? Up to 16 modules for both CPUs. See Aid 21402 for guidelines. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power fail on Powerflex 400 Please help with this one as well, same client same powerflex 400 250A unitI am getting really tired of this Power Loss Fault, and the worst part is it does not auto-reset not does it allow me to reset remotely. No, I did NOT experience a dip during operation – the other running drive had no problem. It’s costing us water now at the rate this is going... So it seems the bus volts did drop. A bit strange that other running drive did not also report a fault... why? In any event, WHY does it not auto-reset? Or, alternatively, if this is a fault that does not permit auto-reset then why can I not even reset a Power Loss Fault with the reset input OR with the Fault Clear Parameter (197)? From Subject Received Size Joshua Grimm power loss fault drives 3:33 AM 88 KB ### Assistant: Did you see Aid 49990 ? There is a known problem with some PF400... maybe you're in that case... A Type 2 fault may require drive or motor repair, or is caused by wiring or programing errors. The cause of the fault must be corrected before the fault can be cleared. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy; i dont think this is the problem this time round, we have had these failure's on previos units and have changed the power supply module's. you can reset these units if you go to the unit and go to clear faults using the HMI and then reseting the unit. all other faults can be cleared via Dnet through the plc it is only the F3 fault that cannot be cleared. the forum does not allow me to post the drive exec. images for you to see. We experience this issue more than 1 year,you can mask this fault by modify par A196. Hi there, Just a thought, when you mentioned Fault F3, I have had customers come up with this fault too and the best solution was to add a Line Reactor to the drive. Do you already have one? The other cause of this fault is excessive DC bus voltage ripple, and this is typically caused by harmonics coming into the drive. If you do not have Line Reactors on either drive I would suggest adding one to both. The other drive might start tripping if you correct your problem with the drive in this dicussion. Cheers all four drives are fitted with input and output line chokes, we have also fitted EMC Filters on these units. Chokes or Reactors, there is a difference. Line Reactors Part number 1321-3R500-BRFI filter Part number 22-RFD480 More correspondence from the client Can we first try some remote support? Are there no configs and/or drive logs I can download and email to the relevant persons that will help pinpoint the problem(s) before someone comes all the way here? Also – will an update of the FW maybe help? I’ve tried to find the release notes for the latest firmware but was not successful. I would like to try fix the problem without incurring unnecessary expenditure. Our drives are on the network – I can even give a technician remote access if necessary via VPN. Just some ideas – how do you feel? Last night 23h00, I switched all pumps off and all starters were “healthy”. This morning once again: And like I say, the really annoying part is that the only way to reset it is to power the thing down in person OR perform a reset: Clearing the fault does not solve the problem. Surely it has to be a drive defect... we are not really getting support from Rockwell in SA at the moment, this is a converted Siemens client from and he is busy losing faith in our product now. n"}
{"text": "### Human: runtime file of PanelviewPlus Can I upload runtime file of Panelview Plus 600 2711P-P6C5D and download it to other Panelview Plus for using ? Please advise ### Assistant: Yes, for sure.... the .mer file could be uploaded and then used on other PVP... just the model should be the same and the communication path and target processor must be obviously the same. - fuzzy logic If this is the same type of Panelview Plus (different about partnumber), the target processor is same, is it OK ?For example: Micrologix 12000 connect with panelview plus 600 2711P-B6C5D via DF1. Now, we replace 2711P-B6C5D by 2711P-B6C20D. Can we upload.mer file of 2711P-B6C5D and download to 2711P-B6C20D for using ? (the communication is still DF1 ) Yes, it will work. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can't Delete ControlLogix Tag Hello, When I add an alias tag online to my ControlLogix PLC, (L61, v17.00), normally I can rename or delete the tag as long as a client (Wonderware, RSView, etc.) is not actively reading that tag name. Now, it seems that as soon as I add an aliased tag, I immediately cannot delete it. I get an error The tag is actively being read by one or more clients when I try to delete it. I also have seen the error Object cannot perform service in its current mode/state. In my case, I added a tag aliased to a digital input (boolean tag). There is no other tag referencing the same I/O point, although there are tags referencing other I/O points on the same card. We do have several HMI stations active, but none are referencing that tag name that I am trying to delete. I'm sure there is a simple answer, but I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks,MichaelXL Automation, Inc. ### Assistant: It seems evidently locked by one of your clients... did you try to stop data servers, or just close the applications ?Sometimes these softwares create OPC groups and keep them active also when unused... - fuzzy logic It seems strange that as soon as I add a tag, a client immediately accesses the tag so I cannot delete it. While I did shut down the OPC server application on the PC that I had RSLogix running, there are several other HMI clients running at the same time on other machines whose tag services I did not stop, that access the same PLC. So I assume that it is a client is indeed locking the tag. In the past, using RSLinx as my OPC server, I wouldn't have this problem deleting tags. However, I have recently switched to Wonderware's DASABCIP version 4. This particular tag server must have some tag read optimization algorithms that automatically read/lock all tags, including immediately detecting a change (addition) to the tag database and locking any newly added tags. I would love to get some verfication of this, but I expect that is the case. It's too bad (and I find this a fault of Wonderware, not AB) that I cannot delete tags online now without shutting down all of my HMIs (and therefore my 24/7 process). Michael n"}
{"text": "### Human: Hiding and showing (embedded) pictures in Arena... (with VBS) Does anyone know how to show and hide pictures in Arena using tags?I have managed to achieve this with statuslevels but not with pictures.Where/how do I access methods for external objects? The VBScript below is for statuslevels. Could it be rewritten in any way so it would work for pictures? ' ### Assistant: I've never worked with Arena, but does the object model expose a .Visible property? If so, and if it is Read/Write, you should be able to make the pictures visble/invisible. Whenever I am exploring an unfamiliar object model, I open VBA, press F2 to invoke the Object Browser, and select the specific library I want to explore. All the events, properties, methods and globals wll be displayed there. Depending on who wrote the library, I might even be able to right-click on one of the items (for instance the Visible property) and select Help to see syntax explanation and sometimes even sample code. That's my guess and I'm sticking to it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 and PC Name I need to change the PC name of 4 running Rsview32 stations. Can anyone tell me what things will need to change in the application so I won't have any problems? Is there any tech notes for this? Thanks ### Assistant: If you are using just plain RSView32 and not RSView32 plus Active Display, you most likely would not need to modify anything when the computer name changes. The only exceptions I can think of would be if you are using Windows linked users from the local computer or if you use VBA code to execute different actions based on the name of the computer. Most applications probably are not going to do that, but you should check. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Comparing Ints and Dints Here is one that threw me for a loop... This is on a 1756-L63 version 17. The L63 converts everything to a DINT when comparing. In the example, I have an INT being compared to a DINT. Comparing the same 2 tags in both rungs, what looks like it should work in the EQU statement, doesn't in the Logix processor. Since the value of IntViewedInHex is a negative number, when it is converted to a DINT to be compared, the conversion is negative also. So to compare them correctly, a MEQ needs to be used. I found this because I had to use an INT because a 3rd party device is writing to the tag and I originally had 'EQU IntViewedInHex 16 ### Assistant: I've run into this as well, but I never got into using the MEQ instruction. Good point ! This will not appear when the value is equal to or smaller than 7FFF = 32767. The EQU instruction compares values, not a bit pattern, so when Bit 15 of a 16-bit Integer is true, it considers the value negative. 0000 0000 0000 0000 1010 1010 0000 0011 binary = 0000aa03 hex = 42523 when it's stored as a 32-bit signed integer. 1010 1010 0000 0011 binary = aa03 hex = -22013 when it's stored as a 16-bit signed integer. Thanks for sharing. I've got a feeling I'll be referring back to this post some day. Ron All, What Ken is showing is an example of sign extension. Any time you use SINT and INT, SINT and DINT or INT and DINT, the smaller type is coerced into the larger type by sign extension. Basically, when you take a small integer and store it in a bigger one, the new bits to the left are filled based on the left-most bit of the smaller type: SINT 0101_0101Extended to INT 0000_0000_0101_0101 Bit 7 is a zero, so that is extended to all the new bits to its left. This leaves the numerical value (positive) unchanged. INT 1010_1010_1010_1010Extended to DINT 1111_1111_1111_1111_1010_1010_1010_1010 Bit 15 is a one, so that is extended to all the new bits to its left. This leaves the numerical value (negative) unchanged. The controller has no way of knowing if you intended to compare numerical values or bit patterns. The default for EQU / NEQ is to assume you are comparing numerical values. So, yes, use MEQ. This makes is clear to the controller, and to the person who reads your code (without the rung comments) two years from now, that you intend a bit-wise comparison and not a numerical value comparison. More obvious is more better...... .....more or less.Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Russian text RSView32 Hi, I have produced an English version of a SCADA and would like to display Russian tag descriptions and text on graphics. Has anyone any experience? I've been trawling through KB's but nothing really relevant to RSView32 (correct me if I'm wrong) I've added Russian to the Regional and Language Options as per Technote P92247972 but wanted some tips before I continue.The tag database gives me ???????? when copying and pasting within a csv file and ?????????? when copying and pasting directly into a graphic.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks,Suz. ### Assistant: Hi Suz, It's been a long time since I've done a Cyrillic application and I haven't done enough to get the steps drilled into me. But here's what I remember: Use the command LTagSubstitute - I always use the Command Wizard to help select the command parameters for this. Leave Language as Default and Sheet as Sheet1. This creates an Excel spreadsheet called languageswitch.xls.Open the Excel file languageswitch.xls and insert a new column for the language.Add the Cyrillic translations in the column next to the English text strings.Save the spreadsheet.To switch RSView32 to use the Russian text, issue the command LTagSubstitute Russian Sheet1. To go back to English, issue the command LTagSubstitute Default Sheet1. I think I remember having to use a Cyrillic font - you can look at www.fingertipsoft.com/ref/cyrillic/fontlist.html for some possible options. It might be sufficient to have a Unicode font. I hope this gets you at least into the ballpark. Good luck. Hi, Thanks for getting back to me. I don't have many string tags in my database, I'm more interested in updating the exisiting tag database with Russian descriptions and adding text to graphics. Any thoughts? Tech support pointed me in the same direction as LTagSubstitute Thanks, Suz. Suz, try tech note 45978. It mentions Asian languages, but should cover any non-Latin character sets. FYI, changing text in screens is going to require string tags (to the best of my knowledge). So the LTagSubstitute option is really the way to go. Hi, I managed to get exactly what I was looking for :smileyvery-happy: With the help of the tech support guys I now have Russian text on my graphics and Russian descriptions in my database. I had to change the default input language and keyboard to Russian then reboot. I was advised that the opsys would now be Russian but I didn't have that problem. Although when I type in a text file I get Russian characters it accepted my password at login :womansurprised: Anyway, I'm happy and away to get on with it. Thanks for replying. Suzanne. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Version 18 Has anyone seen or heard about an ETA for version 18 of RSLogix 5000.If so when is it and what are the likely up grades from 17. ### Assistant: My distributor said to expect it in January '10. My response was Ha!, fat chance The drives guy came by a day later. He mentioned that v18 will have extensions to the instruction set to support the Ethernet drive control they've long called CIPSync. I don't know if it's still called that, but I saw it demonstrated a couple of years ago. The demo model had two drives running at full speed, with a strobe showing their shaft angle coordinated perfectly. The whole thing has its foundations in <b>IEEE 1588</b> as I remember. Drives control is probably only one of the many things that can benefit from this. If it really works as touted, this should be the end to the old, worn out phrase Ethernet just isn't deterministic. Everybody, by now, knows that determinism is as essential to life as oxygen, or nearly so. There are many things I hope to see in upcoming versions. Among them are immutable symbolic constants, and/or enumerations. Immutable constants would be tags that are initialized at compile time and can't be changed at run time. So, if I set a constant called Drive.Fwd as equal to zero, I wouldn't have to continually run a housekeeping process to ensure that it stays at zero. I'd also like to see AOIs improved. One of the things that frustrates me most about AOIs actually relates to the type system. I want the type system become heirarchical, where SINT, INT, DINT, and LINT all inherit from an uplevel type, perhaps called Integer. REALs and (future) DOUBLE would inherit from Float. Both Float and Integer would inherit from Number. Then, change the AOI parameter checking so that the programmer can choose the level in that heirarchy he's willing to accept as an input or output parameter. With that, a single AOI could perform it's operation on various types when the outcome doesn't require such strict type checking. I could then create an AOI called BoundChecking, where the input parameters were required to be calculable numbers (not BOOL) but not necessarily restricted to their storage size or encoding. The LIM instruction does this. It will digest INTs and REALs with equal ease and produce predictable results. This actually comes into play more often when writing AOIs to encapsulate the mundane tasks of controlling outside equipment, like PowerFlex drives. A PowerFlex drive with datalinks turned on will produce a different module-defined data type than with datalinks off. If my AOI takes the the input and output blocks of those module-defined types, it will gag over the differences between them. I wish Rockwell would create a forum area for requests like mine, but I guess I'll be satisfied to pepper them into other missives and hope that a Rockwell dude might forward them on to the right engineering group, or give them summary judgement if they're too bone-headed to consider. By the way... I also want double-precision floats (DREAL). Did you catch that? Yes I strongly agree with pebworth.In the case of numbers, constants can be made by continuously (or at startup) moving the required value to tag.But in case if string, I cannot even assign a constant string value to a particular tag. Only thing I can do is just type the desired value to the tags value column. Well, *I* read these messages daily. I forward many to product managers. And many of the product managers keep an eye in here (though, admittedly, some more than others). The other method to send in suggestions is through the Submit a Question feature in the Knowledge Base. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View SE - creating an HMI server i am trying to recover from a server failure. all files were lost on all discs in the server!i have reloaded all the rockwell software onto the re-built server, uploaded PLC code from the ControlLogix PLC's and now have to re-create all my operator screens in Factory Talk View SE.When i try to create an HMI Server in an SE application, the following error message appears twice: Server Verification Has Failed.the answer is in the knowledge base (No 29760), but i can not see it because i do not have a tech support contract and my customer will not want to purchase one just to answer one question............i'm sure there is a simple answer to this question, can anyone help me please? ### Assistant: In that technote is only indicated you've to uninstall and reinstall View SE... :smileysad: Technote points out another Aid where you may find out help on that... #27671 Before try this, you may want try the following possible solutions: 1. disable Norton Antivirus and Norton Internet Security and see if it solves... Aid 395332. repair the ViewSE installation through Add/Remove Programs3. verify the PC is connected to an Ethernet network and a valid IP is assigned Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic many thanks Fuzzy Logic, you know your stuff. No2. in your list did the trick. n"}
{"text": "### Human: eip or modbus over tcp ip which ab plc support modbus over tcp ip ? Will Micrologix 1400 work for eip data?thanks in advanceragni ### Assistant: Actually, no native Modbus TCP support over AB PLC's Ethernet port. :smileysad: You may insted use third-party modules such Prosoft MVI...There is also a possibility to use the 1756-EWEB Open Socket features to realize some basic Modbus TCP functionality...see Aid 33697. MicroLogix 1400 controllers support Ethernet/IP with CIP explicit messaging (message exchange).See Aid 61103 for more infos about MX1400 Ethernet capabilities. - fuzzy logic With similar manner using 1756-EWEB, MicroLogix 1400 supports Open Socket features. See Chapter 23 Socket Interface Using CIP Generic Messaging in MicroLogix 1400 Reference Manual. You will need to parse/generate Modbus TCP packets by the ladder logic. n"}
{"text": "### Human: I/O led indicator flash red I encountered a problem that the I/O led indicator of my controller(1756-L64) flash red.And then I recovered it by following steps,1.remove the controller module and insert it back to the chassis again.2.turn the key switch to programm mode and then turn back to run mode.After these 2 steps, I saw the controller is OK.I have no idea about what the matter is . Is there some problem with my chassis? ### Assistant: Are you absolutely certain it's the I/O LED ? The OK LED flashes red when there is a recoverable fault; it could be as simple as an index that overruns an array. Your description is consistent with a reboot and program/run transition to reset whatever program code caused the fault. But I have never seen the I/O LED do anything but flash green or stay solid green. Agree with Ken, just to remark anyway that I/O led flashing red means none of the listed I/O connections are working. This is quite strange and unusual, it could be a problem within the chassis, or a faulty module ...or a bad hardware connections of a module inside the chassis...I think a deeper check of your hardware is needed.... however the User Manual is precise on that, chassis is bad and need to be replaced :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View ME Project Location Are there plans to allow storing/opening a FTView ME project to/from a custom location? We have multiple people who maintain the operator interfaces in our plant. With the plc's we store the programs on the network and all work with the same copy, but with the PV+, we need to save the backup or runtime file to the network drive and import that each time we need to make a change. It works, but is kind of cumbersome. ### Assistant: GregD, the process you describe is, I think, the only way you can deal with FTViewME files. I think my partner tried working the project from the network with bad results. This is a shame; FTViewME is such a different creature compared to other RS products we've used. I'd like to see RS harmonize FTViewME with the other software offerings. The whole FactoryTalk concept implies networking. Yet this development environment is agressively non-networkable. TJ, I agree with you and have been waiting for several years hoping this would be addressed. It is easy to assume that I was the last person to modify the project, make an additional modification, and overwrite changes a co-worker had made, causing unecessary downtime, operator frustration, etc. Thanks for your response. n"}
{"text": "### Human: ME String Display I have a 6182 Panelview, so I am using RSView studio 2.1. I want to display a string from a 1756-L63. I am not having any luck creating a tag to the string data type in RSView Studio. I select the tag name and click OK, and the address never updates. If I select the string.data element, I get an error Analog or digital type can not be used in a string tag.... Is it possible to map a string tag to an L63 in 2.1? ### Assistant: it would be better if you could buy a PanelView Plus terminal:smileyhappy: Hi Mike, try to see if Aid 9221 could help.... - fuzzy logic Thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Inview with CLX processor Can anyone tell me the best way to switch between message files to trigger different messages ?I would rather not have all 2000+ messages in one message file. 11 different area's hopefully 11 different files. Thanks, Greg ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Copy & Pasting Tags Online Am I crazy or did I miss something? I could have sworn that it was possible to copy and paste tags while online in the tag editor. I can select a tag, right click and select copy but when I try to paste it at the bottom, the paste is grayed out. I am using V17. I'm sure I've done this in the past but I have noticed that I can't do this while online. Am I losing it? ### Assistant: It should work.... :smileysurprised: Click on the cell with the tag name to copy, highlight the tag name, right click, copy. Then, click on the empty tag name, right click, paste. Tags can not be copied and paste by selecting the whole row. - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply. I've been using 5000 since 03 and I'm not sure why all of a sudden I thought I could do this online. The company I now work for uses a D3 system in our plant and very few Logix controllers, so I haven't been in the editor as much as my old job. Call this one a brain fart! :smileytongue: n"}
{"text": "### Human: What does fault word in 1794-IE8 module in ControlLogix System mean? There is a 32-bit fault word in input words field of 1794-IE8 module in Logix5000 controller scope tags, what does each bit mean?Thank you. ### Assistant: When you create a Direct Connection with a module (the case of your Analog Module), there is a real-time, data transfer link between the controller and an I/O module. The controller maintains and monitors the connection with the I/O module. Any break in the connection, such as a module fault or the removal of a module while under power, sets fault bits in the data area associated with the module.The module *fault* word is thus added to the other input words coming from the module. Note that this doesn't happen if you configure a Rack Optimized connection with a digital module as a rack connection transfers only input and output to/from the controller. Any other input data the module would return in a direct connection, such as status or diagnostics, are not returned in the Rack Image. When a Module Fault is detected over a Direct Connection to a module, Fault tag's first 8 bits go on...there isn't differentiation between faults, always all these bits on.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Enterprise Hy there, My problem is the following: I have a PanelView Plus 600 and COmpact Logix L23E QB1B, both with built-in ethernet ports. I am trying to make a project and have conected through a switch the panel the PC and the PLC. In RSLinx I can see fine the PC,PLC and Panel both on the rs232 port and on ethernet drivers. But when i open rslinx enterprise in FactoryTalk I see the PLC as a question mark both under erial and ethernet driver. Can you give me an ideea of what I am doing wrong Thank you ### Assistant: 1769-L23E will only show up in RSLinx Enterprise Communication Setup if minimum: You have FactoryTalk View Studio 5.0 installedYou have RSLinx Enterprise 5.17.00 installed. (See Answer ID 54104 - to download this version.)You have FactoryTalk Service Platform 2.10.01 installed. (See Answer ID 54104 - to download this version.)If you still can not see 1769-L23E delete Ethernet Driver and add again.The minimum firmware version of the PanelView Plus terminal needs to be 5.00.03 for successful communication to a 1769-L2x processor.This can be obtained from the Firmware Update web page. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: factory talkview I want to create a password for a display in the PanelView 600 plus, but I have had no success. I tried following the instruciton guides but the guide is not helping. ### Assistant: I created a display for a main menu, on the main menu I have a goto button to take the user to the maintenance screen display, but before the person can access any of the buttons on the maintenance screen they must log-in by entering a password. How do I do this? First you need to create the user under the System>Users and Groups>Users as shown below: Key in your username and password. Lastly create a Login button in your page. To add control to your button goto the Runtime Security to set the Security Codes for the user. In this case I set the user ENG1 with all access privilege from A to P. Notice that the DEFAULT user has only the lowest privilege 'P'. Without login the the PanelView Plus will assign DEFAULT user as the current user. Now I create a button with Visibility animation that will only show on the screen when only user with the Security Code 'A' is login. Hey There, Sorry to just jump in on this thread but it is similar to a questions i have.What i would like to know is, can you add users at runtime on the panel view (plus 1000). i have set up three user groups and the customer would like the ability to add and delete users at run time. Any thoughts? RegardsJ That's not possible. As security is embedded in the runtime file and the runtime file is not adjustable.So you can't create or delete users in runtime on a PVP terminal. Jamy is correct PanelView Plus do not allow you to configure users account during runtime. If you want to to this you can consider using a industrial computer with FactoryTalk View SE. Hello, It is possible to manage user if you are using a domain controler and use windows user security. Maybe not a simply way but possible. Regards. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Flaoting Point Equipment- AB HMI PV600 2711-B6C20 Control Logix 1769L32E Software- RSlogix 5000 and Panelbuilder 32 Problem- I have an analog signal back to processor and I am using a CPT instuction (Local6.I.Ch2Data-4000)/*1000/1600 which is calculating my data and putting it into a DINT N7[2] which is the Tag for the HMI. The number I am recieving is for example 384 but the actual proper value I want to display in the HMI is .384 Any suggestion out there ### Assistant: Data type DINT cannot display floating point numbers Following from the Panelbuilder32 Getting Results: So, you may try the following: Not tested, maybe Feedback is right when wrote data type DINT could not be used in that manner, maybe it is allowed just for signed / unsigned integer Data Type.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Motion Analyzer V4.7 Where can I download JCalculator.exe?I have been having trouble launching from within the Crank V2.6.2 advanced template.First, I had issues (ref AID 62312)Reloaded V4.7 per AID 62312 and now Jcalculator is missing from UDAT folder. ### Assistant: Could it be the one in the LINK ? :smileysurprised: It is the only one I've found.... :smileytongue: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Rather not download an executable file from an unfamilar website..Thanks. Appears that MA V4.7, V4.7.1 do not ship with Jcalculator.exeThe Crank and Inverse Crank Advanced templates look for Jcalculator when the inertia calculators are selected.Found Jcalculator.exe on another laptop and now an error occurs Automation Error ClassFactory cannot supplyrequested class RA Tech Support is now on the case..... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation server When I press the start server button it run and then stops right away. Is the normal and if not what is wrong? ### Assistant: If you don't have any concurrent license files in the activation folder then this is normal. Rich Also sometimes it is caused by a software firewall that is blocking lmgrd.exe and flexsvr.exe See Aid 35092 - fuzzy logic Also my RS View Studio is starting up in demo mode. FA shows i've got a cuncurrent license. Check to make sure that the license file has the right extension if is LongFileName.lic.txt then it will show up in re-Host but will not work you will have to delete the .txt on the end. It may be worth checking the host ID and if its correct get TechSupport to re-send you the file. Rich n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT Admin Console with empty policies. I'm trying to figure out how can I revert Thin client patch ### Assistant: The reinstallation would have work if you had deleted you FactoryTalk directory after you did the uninstall, I recommend you call TechSupport and they will guide you through the process of doing a clean install Rich n"}
{"text": "### Human: Store and Recall Tag Value After Power Cycle I have a tag that counts the number of hours that a device has been running. I want to be able to store and recall this value if the power to the PLC should cycle. Power to the PLC may turn off during maintenance or scheduled downtimes. Background on my system:I'm running a 1769-L32E on Version 15. I usually run it in REM RUN and have my program load from non-volatile memory during power up. I have to do this because the PLC sometimes sees months of interupted power and the battery backup does not hold up. Is there a solution for this? ### Assistant: Since you have a CF card installed on board, you can store the value on the CF card and recall it back.Here is the sample program from the Rockwell Project file: I am not sure if it has been updated, but I believe the read/write of data to the CF on the CompactLogix processor is not supported. It was due to data integrity. Now with that said, there is nothing stopping you from actually doing this. You just have the risk of corrupt data. Also, according to AB, the life expenctancy of the 1769-BA battery is like 14 months if the power is always off. You must have some serious offtime/downtime for your equipment. Maybe you can evaluate a better PM schedule for the equipment to replace batteries more often. Just some thoughts. Hi synrobot, I may confirm there is an update to the CF usage with CompactLogix, now the read / write operations to the CF at runtime is supported on newly built CompactLogix, see the technote 64442 for more infos... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thanks for the update.. I did not realize that they made these changes. It appears though that only the L35E is supported which doesn't help in this situation. Maybe a processor upgrade is the solution. HA HA..!! Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I checked out the documentation myself and didn't see the L32E or the L35E on it. I'll continue to search, but it looks like my best option is to upgrade to the L35E. This is a little different approach, but what if you did a GSV of the Wall Clock Time for the Start Time. This would be hour 0. Then you could do math based off of the current Wall Clock Time. You could come up with a system to take the difference between what you called the Start Time and the Current Time and convert everything to hours. You could then populate the same tag that you are trying to retrieve. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Difference Between Series D and Series E of 1756-CNBR Can anybody give a link or can give exact differnce between this two cards.. I can downgrade the module to Series D. just to be updated I cannot find any info regarding differnces. ### Assistant: The CNBR/E is a replacement for the CNBR/D. The CNBR/E was release due to component obsolescence.With replacement of the obsolete components there is a side benefit that the CNBR/E does run a little faster than the CNBR/D module.You will see a performance increase in both scheduled and unscheduled connections. When creating a network application the CNBR/E may schedules a network that the CNBR/D will not. The total number of connections supported by the CNBR/E is the same as the CNBR/D but since there is more horsepower on the CNBR/E, more connections are allowed to be scheduled at higher RPI's than the CNBR/D. Carefully read technote 36453 for rules/limitations on using series E to replace older modules. I was thinking not possible to downgrade a module from a Series to another due to hardware difference... are you sure you can do it ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Great Job fussy.. Thanks for the info.. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView SE and button I am trying to make a button invisible to put behind a graphic on the screen, but the graphic isn't a rectangle/square. I set the background to transparent, but is there anyway to make the border disappear too? I have tried all 4 options for the button and the set the border width to 0, but the border is still there. Any ideas? Functionally, I just want it to be a goto screen button that will call a parameter file and a macro on startup. ### Assistant: I'm assuming you're talking about the border for the button and not the graphic. If you right-click on the button and go to animation, you can set the visibility of the button which works on the entire object, not just the background. You can also have the button to become visible based on an event. However, if the button isn't visible, I don't believe you can press it. What I've done in the past is make the button color (borders too) the same color as the graphic. The button isn't visible but it's still there to be able to be pressed. Yes, if a button is invisible it is disabled. I use this feature all the time to keep manual functions from being used in automatic mode. To accomplish what is desired like was pointed out is to make the button colors match the background. The button will still work if other objects are on top of it as long as those objects are not other controls, like other buttons. A long, long, long time ago you could overlay several buttons and when you touched the area they all would click. When things went to Windows and using the focus feature this went away. Only the top control will work. Invisible buttons are one of my pet peeves. I think they should be outlawed. How does an operator know where to click if there is no button? Even though it kills me to suggest this, you can accomplish invisible buttons as well by using a transparent shape with no border, then setting touch animation on it. When talking about RSView you need to be careful on how you use the term invisible vs. something like viewable. Visibility is an animation property the not only makes an object not viewable but disables an action like a button or data entry field. In your comment I think you meant not viewable. Actually a not viewable button can be useful in the right circumstance. I have put them in for security reasons to hide screens only accessible by the engineer and not the operator. Generally this was to get at a password prompt to make other buttons visible (viewable and enabled). In other instances I have used them for short cuts that I taught only to the operator and not to supervisors. This meant the operator knew something special and gave them pride of ownership. Do not laugh, with a couple of gems like this it is amazing how much better a machine will work. Why don't you just add touch animation on the graphic you want to use as a go to. Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but you can reshape a button. Select the button and then select the polyline item on the objects button menu (or Objects-->Drawing-->Polyline from the text menu). You can then add/remove points and reshape the button to any shape you like. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Password Expiration Warning Hey there, I was wondering is there a tag i can read the password expiration warning, which is set up in the policies.So example: set up the policy to generate a warning a day before it should be changed, make a bit go high then use that bit in an expression to display the password button on screen? Any thoughts? J ### Assistant: Hi John, are you talking about ViewSE ? - fuzzy logic Sorry,No ViewME, Please don't tell me its not supperted in ME! I don't think you can even change your password in ME.... John, here what I've found about your question: First, I was asking about ViewSE, because I've found a document with some VBA code to realize it inside ViewSE... obviously this isn't valid for ME, as VBA isn't available. Then, inside ViewME, you may select for a particular User that password will expire; this will automatically open the password change popup at runtime X days before the expiration will happen; just this popup will be shown when that user log on in the application. Following an example of a popup: Some settings are needed to obtain this, inside Security Policies. Here a screenshot with an example to set a maximum password age of 5 days, and the message to come 1 day before the password will expire, when the user will login. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Jamy, a User *can* change his password at runtime on ViewME.... unless it has been decided by the developer to avoid a User to do that... here taken from another post, where there are some infos: The only password that you can change is the active user. You cannot have a *main* user change others password at runtime; just you may deny a user the possibility to change its own password at runtime.You cannot create / remove users at runtime...Security configuration can only be done in FactoryTalk View Studio. - fuzzy logic That will do perfect.Thanking you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT View SE seems to be crashing my laptop For several days now I have started having issues with my laptop. The first time I noticed something was when I got a message saying I had lost connection to the processor. (I was connected to a SLC 5/05) That seemed odd but not a big deal until I tried to reconnect and discovered I basically had no network services. When I tried to reconnect I got a message saying the task could not be completed because of insufficient system resources. This same thing has happened for the last 3 or 4 days after I have been running FTView SE Studio for several hours. Yesterday afternoon I did a test by not running FTView and the problem did not occur. My laptop has 4 GB of ram, 2.5GHz dual-core processor, XP Pro with SP2, 160GB hard drive with 100GB of free space. Any ideas or advice? ### Assistant: You may want to monitor the system resources as indicated in Aid 31196, to try to better understand where the problem could be... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Thanks. I had seen that technote a couple of days ago and thought it was just referring to the performance monitor in the task manager. I have set up a monitor log for FT. Will see what happens. Hopefully this will help. I have seen similar things with FT Studio. It seems to be tied to testing graphics online. It is almost like that after you go back to editing the tag database is still being updated. Eventually when you test enough graphics you get this error. I have gone many hours just drawing graphics without a problem. When I connected to the PLC and started test them in Studio I never lasted more than a couple hours without things locking up. I quit doing testing in Studio and now only test in the Client. It seems to work better. This is all lot of guessing and since it takes hours to reproduce, I have not tested it extensively. I might be doing something for one reason but am really dealing with a totally different problem and just stumble on a way around it. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Kinetix 6000 Alarm Handling Hey there, I just wanted to know is there a quick way to display an error if it occurs from a kinetix 6000 3 axis system on a panelview plus 1000. The only way i can see this is by taking the fault code and looking for each fault code then push a value into a dint, then this value will display the alarm on screen after i've entered the text for it, surely theres a quicker way. Any thoughts? Regards,J ### Assistant: I may see your way as the only one possible, too. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Its ok i just got a much quicker and easier way;I downloaded the Kinetix_Fault_AOI form the dowload section, works like a treat and only took me 10 mins to set up,Sweet as!! J Wow, completely forgotten this possibility... :smileymad: Faceplates and AOI are very useful for that, they will save your time to develop something already done by others... Thanks for your ..... Feedback ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Problem with RsView SE 3.10 CP6 and batch control Hi,i have a problem with an installation of RsView SE 3.10 CPR6 (on the client machine) using batch controls.I just reinstalled a pc client (W2K SP4 EN) used to connect with a server with RsView SE 3.10 CPR6 and Batch 6.02I've installed:- RsView SE 3.10 CPR6- patch for RsView- Batch / eProcedure 6.02- Historian 7.00.00 The problem is that i cant open the pages with the batch control panels from the RsView pages (like the example in my attach); i tryed to check the connectivity using IE 6.0 SP1 and if i write //batch_server (name of the pc server) i can see and use the batch control panel normaly. Someone know if i have to register some ocx or activex to use the batch control panels in RsView? Best regards. CiaoAlessandro ### Assistant: Ciao smemo77, benvenuto nel Forum ! :smileytongue: Well, first i have to say I'm not an expert on this, just trying to discuss the behavior.... I suppose you will need a Web Browser ActiveX inside View SE to open the page you want.... Here some steps you may try... 1. Create a new display.2. From Objects select ActiveX Control and draw it on the new display.3. Create a new button on the same screen with Action:Invoke webbrowser.MicrosoftWebBrowser1.Navigate2(www.ab.com)webbrowser is display nameMicrosoftWebBrowser1 is object nameNavigate2 is method 4. Run RSView SE client with display webbrowser and click the button, Rockwell web site will appear. Obviously you have to use the batch server address as you do inside IE instead the ab.com... Apologize if the above is incorrect.... Ciao, - fuzzy logic Hi fuzzy_logic,tks for the quickly answer.I remote connected with the server and i opened the RsView Studio to check how i manage the page.As you suggest i used the startup command Invoke Me.MicrosoftWebBrowser1.Navigate2(http://batch_server) and if i run the RsView client on the pc servereverything run properly.But on my new pc reinstalled no!!I don't understand if i miss something during the installation or i have to register some ocx on the new pc client. Regards. Alessandro PS I attach the result on the new pc client ...and this is the page how i realized on RsView Studio Regards Hmmm.... normally this behavior *appears* when: An ActiveX control is not installed on the computer running the project.The ActiveX is installed, but is an older version than what the original development computer had installed.The ActiveX control is installed and of the proper version, but it depends on another ActiveX control that is either not installed on the local computer or is an older version.Aid 41714 - Aid 38414 and Aid 31206 could help on that... TechConnect Authorization required to access... - fuzzy logic Alessandro, a quick test could be the following: Copy the latest version of the ActiveX control (for example, Shdocvw.dll - bringing it from the server computer) to the client computer and re-register it. For example, open a Command prompt and enter: regsvr32 C:WindowsSystem32Shdocvw.dll Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic tks, i'll try asap and send an aswer on the forum! PS the dll you write me for example is the real dll i have to try to register on the client? Regards! Yes, this is the .dll of the Microsoft WebBrowser activeX. So, we'll wait a feedback from you, just hope it will be positive ! Buon fine settimana ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT SE Overlaying Displays and Passing Parameters from VBA Two issues that are sort of related. The first is, in order to load a motor Start/Stop/Jog overlay VBA was utilized to load the menu based on the Global Object position on the screen. (The implementation of this can be seen in the screenshot below) However, in order for the overlay to be useful the tag associated with the Global Object (the tag is a object parameter) needs to be passed to the Display command. Is there a way to reference these parameters from VBA? My current method is adding a Tag Display, referencing it via the GlobalObject.Element(i), and appending the RSLinx Path, which works, but requires the tag name be under a specific number of characters, otherwise the GlobalTag object cuts it off. The reason that the Touch command cannot be used is that it requires the menu to be offset from the motor icon (about 20px right and down), and there are about 30-40 motors per page. -Second Issue Resolved: Solution Appended-The second issue is when the overlay is loaded, sometimes it adds scroll bars and seems to shift the display on an imaginary canvas. *UPDATE* I was able to fix this, it seems that depending on the order that I loaded the screens in would affect how they were displayed on the screen. In the Display command, I adjusted it so it would Dock the Top and Bottom bars, then load the Main Display as a maximized display. Now when the motor overlays it does it properly. ### Assistant: Maybee I can help with the first quistion. You can pass parameters in VBA like this. ExecuteCommand Display NewDisplay /TParameter1 From the NewDisplay you can read the parameter like this Parameter1= ThisDisplay.TagParameters.Item(1) Why cannot you just have a touch area open the overlay and pass parameters to the display with this command. You can even control position and all kinds of things with this command. I sometimes wonder if VBA is being overused for every problem that is encountered. VBA used to not be available. RSView had all kinds of tools and tricks to accomplish things. We found ways to do stuff similar to what you want with out VBA. Maybe FT View has become so large that there is not time to learn all the different things it can do without VBA. I revised the original statement a bit because I did figure out the second issue, and wanted to clarify things with the first issue. I posted the solution to the second problem in the original statement. @pspThe problem I'm having is reading the parameters from the global object. There are about 30-40 of these motors per page and each is associated with a tag. If I could read that information from VBA it would simplify the problem a fair bit. @Michael BarbI'd prefer to use the Touch Command to do it, but I have about 30-40 of these motors on a page and several pages, as a result controlling where it opens isn't so much the problem as knowing where the Global Object is positioned on the screen. Manually entering the location as a parameter isn't possible since they can open on one of two screens. If there is another way to retrieve this information via the touch command I'd love to know it. Thanks for your time,I really appreciate your help.Jordan n"}
{"text": "### Human: 440-ALAT I recently purchaced, this device to help speed the alighnment of several sets of light curtains that we are installing, my question is how do you use it, I know it is a laser, that is supposed to point from the reciever to the transmitter, or vise versa, but there is no mounting hardware with it. At this point I just purchased a 250.00 dollar laser pointer. I guess my question is, is how do you mount it, and is there any documentation to go with it. Thanks ### Assistant: I just found the mounting hardware, it is a mere $40.00 extra, way to go AB I think you will still be disappointed when you get the bracket - its not that great. When you are trying to align curtains that are 10 feet apart, you want to make sure the top and bottoms are perfectly lined up. The bracket screws into the back of the laser pen device, and it clips rather loosely onto the front of the curtain. Just the slightest of touches left and right, up and down etc can knock the beam at the target off by ~ 50mm over this distance, with it still being clamped in the same place (call it slackness / backlash what ever). What you really want AB to develop, is this functionality inside the transmitter - top and bottom. You press an alignment button on the transmitter, and it generates two laser spots that are precisely aligned with the non optical stuff you can't see. You then align the receiver such that the spots hit at the same place from where they are generated from the transmitter. Can you do this AB? HelloAll you need is already here...See page 5http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/445l-in003_-en-d.pdf EnjoyRoger Sometimes things slip through without one being aware of them.All I can say this has been a long time coming. Thanks for posting this. n"}
{"text": "### Human: String Display In factory Talk View ME Hello All, I have a CompactLogix PLC connected to a development PC. The string display box is not updating from the PLC. All other displays and tags work fine ( bool and numeric). I see the message changing on my RSLogix 5000 software, just that it doe not update on the factory Talk View. I have no clue as to why this is happenening, when clearly it is updating inside the RSlogix 5000 software. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, slac_guy ### Assistant: Have a look to Aid 9221 , there are all the informations you need to display a string in ViewME from CLX, so that you may check first if you've used the same procedure. A TechConnect Authorization is required to access... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MAH process complete bit I am trying to get the .pc bit to come on at the end of the MAH instruction and I'm not having any luck. I am building a machine that packages line so I have a line feed axis and a rotary axis that is operated on a cam profile. For homing I do a MAS to stop the rotary axis then a MSF, then an MSO, then a MAH to a switch. The axis homes, but the .pc bit never comes on. Can anyone help me? ### Assistant: A similar behavior is explained inside Aid 22214... try to see if it is your case. TechConnect Authorization needed to see that technote.... - fuzzy logic I read that before I posted the message. I went into the axis properties and changed the homing offset from 0 to 1, thinking that surely one rev would be more than the deceleration time. The same problem persists. Thanks for the response. Any other ideas? Can't answer why your .PC bit isn't being set.Sometimes its just better to do your own home routines than use whats supplied. You can wire your home switches straight into PLC I/Ps this way.The homing is just a sequence of Jogs, Stops, Incremental moves, MRP etc.Another advantage of doing your own is that you then can achieve exactly what you want with it.Sorry this isn't a direct help to your question. Mosser, Can you verify that the MAH is actually doing something? Also, can you verify that it completes. You see the rotary motor turn until the home switch comes on and then stops. In simple terms, that is what is going on right? There may be something in your program that is stepping on the PC bit. With that said, do you see the AxisHomedStatus bit changing state as it should. You might reference this instead of MAH.PC bit. Let us know. n"}
{"text": "### Human: firmaware updeta? I now have mounted an architecture like this: CONTROLOGIX 1756-L55 rev 12.23 deriving a card charging ControlNet 1756-CNB/D rev 5.1, this board reads 12 plates ControlNet 1788-CNC/A rev 1.1 of flexlogix 1794-L33 rev 12.2. As I need to add a new node in the network comprising a compactlogic 1768-L43 rev 16.20 with 1768-CNB board rev 1.1. I have to update the firmware CONTROLOGIX to rev 16. My question is this, 1- the CONTROLOGIX Rev 16 will read the old 1788-CNC/A? 2- flexlogic processors they go to see CONTROLOGIX 16? muchas gracias por su timpo, Juan de Argentina ### Assistant: Juan, following some infos: 1. Yes, it is possible, since the -CNC are older than v16, you'll have them available in the pick list2. Although it will be better to have revisions aligned, it should be possible... if for example you want to add the CLX processor in the I/O tree, select the closest revision available from the pick list...as far as I can remember, RSLogix5000 did not care about the revision mis-match. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PLC5/60 IS TELLING ME CONFIGURATION EDITS NOT ACCEPTED BY PLC WHEN TRYING TO CONFIG REMOTE IO. PLC5/60 IS TELLING ME CONFIGURATION EDITS NOT ACCEPTED BY PLC WHEN TRYING TO CONFIG REMOTE IO. IVE DONE THIS HUNDREDS OF TIMES BEFORE AND HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS PROBLEM. SEVERAL WEEKS AGO I CONFIGURED THREE RACKS ONTHE SAME CHANNEL WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM. ### Assistant: Please verify your settings as most probably there is an overlap in the RIO addresses you're using (maybe you have configured the same as the local chassis)...or the Diagnostic file selected is already used on another channel... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTAE Redundancy Workaroud I have found a workaround for a redundnat SE server to be able to get FTAE working for a new project that also utilizes Win911. I added a third rslinx enterprise server under its own area and hosted it on a seperate PC then enabled alarm and event support, setup a topic pointing to my PLC and enabled FTAE on the topic. Now I am getting alarms appearing on my new HMI screens and the specter win911 software is also happy. I know I do not have redundancy on the FTAE portion but at least I can get the benefits until the next version of FTView supports it. My question is Rockwell is there any danger doing this? My redundant servers host screens for a good chunk of our plant taking them down could cause some major grief. I have very good PC server hardware HP DL380s with redundant everything. ### Assistant: You won't be introducing any instabilities by using a non-redundant FTAE on a separate computer. The only risk I can see, and you already know this, is that if the FTAE computer crashes, you won't have any alarming. That's my opinion. Maybe the higher powers at Rockwell will comment further?.... n"}
{"text": "### Human: Program Fault I have a Progam Fault in a Compactlogix L-43, is a minor fault, but i unknow as resolved, the fault says: 23/11/2009 11:23:52 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 0000000023/11/2009 11:25:19 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 0000000023/11/2009 11:19:03 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 0000000023/11/2009 11:20:30 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 0000000023/11/2009 11:20:58 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 0000000023/11/2009 11:21:28 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 0000000023/11/2009 11:22:55 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 0000000023/11/2009 11:23:22 a.m. (Type 01) Program Fault (Code 15) Unknown fault. Fault Information Dump: Info[0]: 00000030 Info[1]: 00000000 Info[2]: 00000000 Info[3]: 00000000 Info[4]: 00000000 Info[5]: 00000000 Info[6]: 00000000 Info[7]: 00000000 gracias por su tiempo, Juan de Argentina ### Assistant: This minor error occurs when a 1768 processor is running with no attached 1769 Compact I/O modules. This has been tested in firmware revisions 15 and 16. It is a minor fault and does not affect the performance of the controller program. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Runtime Security - Administrators Login Macro Whenever I press the 'OK' button in the Security Settings (accessed by the 'Security Accounts...' button in Runtime Security) the login macro for the Administrators group is automtically deleted. Does anyone know why that happens or how to prevent it? I'm seeing this on two different HMI systems. Both are SE 5.1 SR2. ### Assistant: Cool bug! I tried it and found the same thing. The only group that ever gets affected is the Administrators group. I tried 3 other FT groups that I had and they were unaffected. I sure don't see a workaround other than don't do that. Hopefully this is fixed in the near future. Just wanted to give you a sanity check' - you are not alone! n"}
{"text": "### Human: Function Block Diagrams Why does the function block routines in logix not allow for the placement of connector lines. Rather then the current autoconnect feature. While the autoconnect is useful, if a progamer has alot of logix the autoconnect sometiems routes lines in less effecient or unreadable manor. The lines also seem to re-draw when edits are accepted when on-line editing. ### Assistant: jrbolek, Only guessing here, but I would suppose it's to avoid storing the X,Y coordinates for each vertex within the application. Probably to reduce the memory used in the controller by the FBD routine. I too would like to drive the routing. I suppose we could suggest to the RSLogix 5000 editor editors :-) that the vertices be stored in the OFFLINE copy. If you have the offline copy (with comments, etc.) and went online, you'd get nice routing. If you uploaded into a blank project (or if for any reason the routing in the offline copy didn't match up with the online controller), you'd get default routing. I could live with that as a compromise. Dale, W8ABZ Mr. Moderator: another one for the suggested enhancements thread (ref. sumesh, pebworth et al).... n"}
{"text": "### Human: L61 Processor Faulted, but not indicated within RSLogix5000 software L61 processor with V17 firmware had faulted due to watchdog error. Whilst online to the processor, the indicator within RSLogix5000 stated the control was in Remote Run. Upon noticing that logic was not being executed, the processor was checked visually and seen to have been faulted. A download could not be completed because the mode of the processor could not change from remote run to remote program. The only way of restoring code was to power down processor and remove battery (to clear the processor memory) and then download code. Any ideas or suggestions? ### Assistant: the processor was checked visually and seen to have been faulted.You mean the OK indication is solid red or blinking Red? Could you check the controller status in RSLogix 5000 under the major and minor faults tabs. A download could not be completed because the mode of the processor could not change from remote run to remote program. The only way of restoring code was to power down processor and remove battery (to clear the processor memory) and then download code.Try switch the key switch to Run mode then back to Program mode then to Remote mode to clear the fault and try download again without power recycle. Jesse81, Does the application contain Periodic or Event Tasks or UID instructions? These can block communication (like HMI), including communication with RSLogix 5000 if the task starts to overlap because no time is left for the communication task in the controller OS. Then RSLogix 5000 will become unresponsive or even be taken offline. This often results in a message that a mode change request was received but cannot be completed. Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Help I'm ac drive dumb. I have a 1305 AA12A HA1 If I have a 220 single phase input...will the output be 3 phase? I realize how silly that may sound but none of the literature I've read confirms yes or no. can I operate a 1hp 3 phase ac motor using 1phase 220? ### Assistant: Even though that drive will take a single-phase input, it has a 3-phase output so is designed to operate with 3-phase motors. The drive output power is derated; the table below will show you the output current and power available to your drive if it is powered by 1 ph. line. Just check to fall inside the indicated values with your motor. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: String display on PV+ Hi All, My string update on the PV+ is not working. All other tags are getting updated except this one. I see the value of the string changing, inside RsLogix5000, but it does not change on the PV+ Any suggestions ? Thanks. slac_guy ### Assistant: Have a look to Aid 9221 , there are all the informations you need to display a string in ViewME from CLX, so that you may check first if you've used the same procedure. A TechConnect Authorization is required to access... otherwise, send me a Private Message here in the Forum, I'll send you back some infos... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MicroLogix PLC 1763-L16AWA with a Fault Error Hi I have a MicroLogix PLC 1763-L16AWA with a Fault Error. Any one knows what this Fault Message Means? 00000 RemoteMajor ErrorCode=0002h The PLC has been working without any problems for 4 months until a Contractor did work inside the panel and when they were done this error appeared. I am trying to prove if they caused the error but I also need to know if the error can be cleared. Would appreciate your help. John ### Assistant: It could be caused by improper installation or noise... maybe they modify grounding connection or install devices and produce this result... :smileysad: As indicated above, User Manual gives some indications about proper grounding and suggest the use of surge suppressors for relay and contactors...many times this has fixed. Aid 16301 also contains some hints (just you need a TechConnect Authorization to access)Then, try to re-download the program in order to see if the problem persists. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks. I did also find that for the 0002 code. But I was wondering the 0002H if the H means something else. Anybody know? It just indicates the error code number is Hexadecimal ....:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Is there a program to convert Structured Text to Ladder Logic? I am wondering whether there is a program available to automatically convert a Structured Text routine to Ladder Logic? A customer has asked if this can be done for a number of machines they have, as their staff find ladder logic much easier to trouble-shoot. Nick-- ### Assistant: Unfortunately no. :smileysad: A way round this is to use Add-On Instructions. AOI instruction can be programmed in any language and then used in other language programs. - fuzzy logic I'm not sure I understand what you are suggesting. How would using Add-On-Instructions help in this regard? I was toying with the idea of writing a translation utility, but wanted to see if someone had already done this. According to the Rockwell doc's, it's possible to export to a text or XML file, modify that file and then import the modified file back into the project or into a new project. Nick Suggestion about Add-on is a general speaking... if you want to use Ladder as main language for the application, but prefer to have some particular routine use ST, you may *close* that part of your program inside an Add-On instruction, so that the end-user will just see it as a *black-box* inside the well known ladder code. Here your problem is different, still answer remain NO, it isn't possible, or better, there isn't a tool to do the translation automatically... if you want to try the way you've indicated in the last post, you're obviously free to find a valid conversion system, but you've to make it from scratch.... IMO it will require many time considering all the particular cases related to the possibilities one has to write the ST code. - fuzzy logic At first glance, it doesn't look that difficult - especially if I confine my efforts to the specific programs (and the subset of the ST instructions they use). I may go ahead and roll my own if I don't find such a utility. Thanks for your ideas about Add-On instructions, but as you mentioned in your recent message, it doesn't apply in the situtation I have here. Nick-- n"}
{"text": "### Human: OPC data to analog output On a site we get signals through OPC tags. Now we want to make an analog output from them. We have a Flexlogix with an OE12 analogoutputcard. We can't get any output values. What do we need to do? Do we need touse an input and write that to an output? We are kind of lost here. Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: Hi Eddy, do you mean you want to control your analog output value from a HMI that connected to the PLC via OPC link?If that is the case you need to modify your PLC program and link the existing control signal from the HMI to the analog output channel. If you don't have the control signal available in the HMI then you need to modify your HMI program as wel. Could you tells us more on what you really are going to acheive with your analog output? Hi, A windturbine is generating OPC data through a windows server (using KEPWare). And we are writing OPC data to a channel on an analog output module (OE-12). The thing is that we do not get anything out of the analog output. What to use and how do we program this. eddy, which is the PLC that has to control the OE12 module ?Which is the status of the OK led ?Did you configure the module accordingly to the Installation instructions ?There is an Enable Output and also the Range Selection bits that *have* to be configured to have your output work... Please add some infos, so that somebody here could help better.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Eddy,There is a strangely seemingly un-documented (it may be somewhere but sure is hard to find) feature for the OE-12 module. It has an open circuit detection that will lock out the channel. There is no way to disable this. This could be the source of your problem. The only way to assure that it will send an output is to: - Set enable bit - Constantly toggle WR bit (it needs to sense the transition so keeping it on will not work). This bit is Write word 0 Bit 12 for this module and resets all of the channels. If you toggle the WR bit and your output now works you will need to write code to make sure it works after an open circuit is detected. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk -> Button superposition Hi, Is it possible with factory talk to superpose macro buttons in order to have two or more macros lauched simultaneously ? ### Assistant: I guess you're talking about ViewME... as ViewSE may start more macros together using commands... Well, using ViewME this isn't possible... only the higher layer button will work.... Anyway, there is the possibility to use only one macro button and obtain what you need using a workaround.In the macro you call through button, set also a bit that you will use to call a Remote Macro, configurable through Global Connections.In this last called macro, remember to reset that bit, so you will be able to start again from the beginning. Have a look to the User Guide, page 8-6 to understand how Remote Macros work. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: MTBF or Failure on Demand I am reviewing a safety circuit which makes use of the 700S-CF Safety Relays. I am looking for the MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure) or Propability of Failure on Demand, particullary the N/O contact failing to open (wielded contacts). This data will be used in the fault tree for the system to calculate the SIL level. ### Assistant: The MTBF for the relays depends on the number of operations per hour. You will have to determine the number of operations of the relay per hour. The mechanical life of the 700S-CF relays is 15 million operations and the electrical life is 1.5 million operations. Reference Aid 42629 - fuzzy logic Here is a link to the functional safety data it includes B10d and PFHd data. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/sr/safety-sr001_-en-e.pdf Cool document Rogan_Josh ! :smileyhappy: It's new to me.Thanks,- fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: version tracking RS5000 I work in a regulated industry. With the PLC 5 (RS5) we would track the version, and prove the version, by the checksum in the PLC 5 (RS5) code. The RS5000 does not have this feature. Tracking by date and time of the file doesn't work as just viewing a RS5000 file changes the date and time. Is there any method that is used to document the a RS5000 program file and prove that the file is the one that was validated? ### Assistant: Try to see Aid 55291, starting from version 17 of RS5000 and using L6x controllers, there is the possibility for users to track on-line changes via an internal log and with change counters. See the Programming Manual and search for Controller Log. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix L45 Ser.B flashed with wrong firmware I have a serious problem with a CompactLogix L45 series B controller and I desperately need your help. I did a firmware upgrade from RSLogix 5000 and I was not aware the fact that firmware revision 16.21 is not compatible with L45 series B processors because we did not get any message at all. After I have unsuccessfully flashed the second processor and bricked it, I found on the knowledgebase an article discussing this problem. What can be done in order to un-brick of the 2 processors that were flashed with the wrong firmware? ### Assistant: Contact the Technical Support for that, but I guess you have to send it to repair... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic You may have some luck popping a flash card in with firmware and project and a power cycle may load check knowbase doc 34534 - Using a 1784-CF64 Card with Logix Controllers to Load Applications and Firmware. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Getting RSLogix5000 to work with Windows 7 Install latest software, including RSLinx 2.55. Configure User Account Control to be set to Never Notify. Start RSLinx from start menu as Administrator (hold down Shift, right click on RSLinx Classic shortcut, select Run as Administrator. You will now be able to configure and add drivers and communicate with hardware (I only did AB_ETHIP-1 driver). Atle Atle Bjanesgradient Engineering ### Assistant: as per knowbase doc 64140 Testing for Windows 7 usability with Rockwell Software products has begun; but there is no Windows 7 support at this time.  7 has an XP emulator, but extra layers of protocol is never a good thing. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Continous Motion Control I have a system that uses Kinetix 6000 drives to control servo motors for positioning. I was wanting to know if there is a way to use a continous move command that will follow a setpoint from a feedback device. So if the signal goes positive the servos will go forward and if the signal goes negative the servos reverse. I can only see motion commands that exucute once, not one that is continous. Is there a way to do this? ### Assistant: Others have asked similar questions. Some options you can consider:- 1.Set the absolute posiiton of the servo to zero at its mid so that it can swing positive and negative (a home routine would be required on power up)Scale your PID output to correspond to absolute position.Every time your PID block is done - just execute an absolute MAM (just ensure you are't doing this too quick an update).Note - it doesn't matter if there's no new position to go to - if the servo is alreadt at the destination - it will go no where with a new absolute MAM to the same place. 2. If you want to do something with incremental moves instead, just periodically refresh an MAM instruction at a chosen rate again. Well unfortunately this application has to be continous. Refreshing the MAM instruction doesn't work because the updates are too fast. Right now we have to use MAJ to get it to work with a routine that looks for error and then corrects it when it gets out of the tolerance. Neither of your suggestions will work, we have tried them. There's no continuous move instruction that I know of, but if there was you would have to :- Refresh the instruction (or some buffer register) with the required new position. Wait for the next Sercos refresh to load the new position to the motion planner. Allow the servo closed loop control to move the servo. If you programmed your motion in structured text, there are advantages in that your motion instructions can execute every scan of your code (as long as what you are doing doesn't generate Instruction Collision erros). Without going into detail of the cascaded loops of a PID process, tuning dynamics, loop refresh rates and positive feedback etc that can cause response issues, and going back to the question of is there a means of implementing a continuous move - yes there is. An MAM operating every scan in structured text would do exactly the same thing as a continuous move instruction would, considering you would have to pass the new position in your code to it somehow, and it then wait for that to go over the Sercos network. The only way you could improve on a free running MAM is to somehow have a 'gear' of the servo locked to an analog signal going straight into the Kinetix such that the operation totally bypasses your PLC code - sort of thing like 10V = a position, 0v = another position etc. I don't think this can be done - but firmware and software changes all the time - so it might be available now? Good luck with your process, if an MAM hasn't proved satisfactory for you then others reading here may be able to help. Thanks for the reply Norwich. This application uses a contact roll to put continuous pressure against a roll that is being wound. Continuous movement keeps the density of the roll from changing. We tried the MAM in ladder and it would only execute one move, then lock up. Perhaps it had something to do with update rates, motion planner, etc... I do not have access to the structured text programming features. I think you answered my question in yes there is continuous movement in a very roundabout way. We have other motion controllers that will follow a position. Hopefully AB will be able to come up with this sometime in the near future. What type of feedback is coming from this external device, actual feedback counts or a variable voltage? If feedback type and it is compatible with our auxiliary port, then you could configure this input as a feedback only axis and then use either MAG (gearing) or MAPC (position cam) to have the controlled axis follow it. Hope I'm not too far off base. example attached as per our messages Thanks for the example NorwichUK, I will check it out and see if it fits our application. The feedback is a calculated diameter in the PLC. So it is not an exernal device. It would be in the program. I am doing something similar with CLX, M08SE, and Kinetics 6K. Our input is an aux feedback encoder that I MAG a Virtual Axis to, then use in a MAPC. However, if you CPT the diameter to a contact roll position value, then MRP the position value to the Contact Roll Virtual Axis.ActualPosition, you can MAG your Contact Roll Servo axis to the Virtual Axis. Additionally you can make the Ratio parameter a variable if the diameter on your roll varies with width. I am not sure that I completely understand your application, but it seems like Electronic Camming or Gearing would be the way to go. You can have your feedback device be the Master and the positioning servos be the Slave. You can set this up for continuous operation. The description of the problem sounds more like a web handling problem than a discrete motion problem. When doing web handling you would just set the follower to a torque value. The motor would change speed but maintain a constant torque. In a motor torque is current. Sometimes the follower would be driven and you would need a negative voltage to keep a constant current/torque. Some time the follower would need to push and you would need a positive voltage to keep a constant current/torque. I still find it fascinating to watch this on a scope and see voltage vary from plus to minus, the speed change, and see current stay constant. Sometimes there is a little instability when voltage goes to zero but most systems pass threw this point fairly quickly. This simple method deals with all the problems of followers on changing diameter with out have to do any complicated calculations. I should add. I have not tied this but have always thought you could get an axis to run in torque mode by:Set the Position Error to Status and ignore itSet the torque in the Torque Offset attributeEnable the axisI probably missed some setups but these should be the major ones. I would like to know if this works. I will not be able to try it for several months. To run the axis in Torque Mode all you have to do is change the loop configuration on the Drive/Motor tab for the axis. In this configuration, all that is fed to the servo loop is TorqueOffset. In this mode, the Position Error will automaticaly be ignored. Is the new kinetix 300 drive something for your problem? n"}
{"text": "### Human: SIEMENS SINEC H1 S5 S7 GATEWAY MVI Hi, i looking for some gateway to use as gateway beetween a S5 network and ControlLogix using Ethernet. My customer has planned to replace many S5 SIemens PLC by CLX. But for time and money reasons, the replacement will take time, may be 6 months.During this time, S5 will continue to be used as long the CLx will be installed.I have proposed to use the SST card, but my customer has refused this solution. I think (may be i'm wrong) a MVI module could be used as translator with one appropriate program. Has someone a idea or an other proposal for this problem? Thanks in advance ### Assistant: Did you already see this Gateway ? http://www.inat.de/index.php?255&backPID=255&tt_products=308&L=1 Seems what you're searching for.... - fuzzy logic Thanks for reply, I have allready saw and propose this.but, for my costumer view point it is not a RA product.a PCI card on SST technologies is also existed.Same remark. I am 100% convince that' should running well.But my costumer is not convince at all. Best regards Oh, but there isn't a RA product to realize this.... this should be comprehended by your customer... :smileysurprised: I don't know about the SST product, but could also be better as this is an Encompass Partner, did you show the Encompass Program to your customer ? IMO the MVI solution is very hard to pursue... you've to implement the protocol.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic thanks for your feedback.Nevermind if the solution is existing, the apllication must be supported by an official brand.So i will push the first solution using an external gateway. Best regards Jean. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Viewing logic only, progam What software do I need to view only, for RSlogix 500 and 5000? I need it for real time not for editing. ### Assistant: For RSLogix 5000 :RSLogix 5000 Service Edition For RSLogix 500:You may use RSLadder 500 or the Ladder Viewer (activeX) that comes with RSLinx Gateway. Here an extract from RSLinx Classic Help: RSLadder 5 and RSLadder 500 Version 5.00.04 are included with your RSLinx Classic installation . With RSLadder you can: quickly locate a specific ladder logic section by using page titles in your ladder project.quickly locate instructions, addresses, and symbols in your ladder logic program files.monitor ladder logic directly from an SLC 500 or PLC-5, eliminating the need for ladder programming software.view different ladder files simultaneously. Simply launch multiple ladder viewers and specify a different ladder file for each. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Contact Ratings on 800F Hi, Standard contacts are rated at 17V(5mA) but what does this actually mean? Is it >17V and >5mA, or >17V or >5mA? I need to switch 16V @ 24mA can I use standard contacts or not? Regards,Tim. ### Assistant: Timmus, please see the attached document... anyway 5 mA is the minimum current... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix L32E major fault type 03, code 16 After an extended power outage to PLC p/s, the controller would not restore to operation. Investigation with RSLogix5000 showed Major Fault code: <<[Type 03] I/O Fault [Code 16] I/O Module connection failed Port: Backplane Module: Local 5 Error: Connection timed out Info: none>> Upon Clear Majors the PLC woke up and was OK.Searching Knowledgebase does not yeild any useful information beyond jiggling connections...What does this fault mean, and how do I ensure against its locking up the PLC in the future? I don't do anything with Controller Fault Handler. Should I be? Any help will be sincerely appreciated!Thanks,Al ### Assistant: This error code indicates a failed I/O connection; something has not correctly restarted after the power was reapplied. Here a collection of technotes and manuals that could help: Aid 48290 - CompactLogix error: Type 03 Code 16Aid 52530 - Preventing Expansion CompactLogix Banks from Faulting A ProcessorAid 19180 - clx fault handling.Programming Manual The manual will explain you how to realize a fault routine to trap errors. - fuzzy logic Hey Fuzzy, Thanks for your prompt and thorough response! I'd seen several of the links, but not the Major & Minor Fault Programming Manual -- that appears the most helpful. I get the impression that this error is not uncommon at power-on (my experience), so that a Power-Up Handler routine to check for this fault and clear seems appropriate. After start-up, loss of any IO module is critical to my process and a major fault with fail-safe shutdown is appropriate. Therefore, I won't attempt a Controller Fault Handler routine to clear it during run. Does that make sense? Again, many thanks. You were much more helpful than TechConnect which has erroneously disconnected me in spite of my stiff annual payments. I will be checking in on the Forum frequently after this most helpful experience. Hope to bump into you again ... Best regards, Al Al, you've to consider the following notes: 1. If an I/O module connection isn't ok at PowerUp, the fault generated is Type 3 Code 23, the cpu cannot go in Run Mode, no way to trap it in PowerUp Handler... (seems that trying to clear this fault there, causes the processor to load an empty program and then it stays in Program mode :smileysurprised: )2. The error you got is related to an I/O connection fault during normal Run of processor program, so the only way to trap it is inside the Fault Handler.3. Remember the PowerUp Handler will only run if the CPU will be powered up in run mode (It does NOT execute on a program to run switch); remember also that you've to clear the major fault (type 1, code 1) generated by the execution of the PowerUp Handler, using an SSV as indicated in the Programming Manual. Anyway, many thanks for your positive feedback, hope to be able to help you again here in the Forum.What about a donation to me insted of TechConnect annual payment ?! (oooops :smileysurprised: , I think I'm in trouble with the policy here...) :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy,Another Catch-22 !I will study up on Fault & Power Up Routines. If I put the fault clearing into power-up, then a power cycle would stand a chance of clearing it. I'm not too keen on the idea of the PLC attempting to reset a module comm fault on the fly. If it faults, I want it to shut down and wait for human intervention. This experience has made me more suspect of the ComptactLogix bus connection. Seems pretty cheesy and easily breakable what wiht the little plastic levers. I think I'll stear towards ControlLogix in the future whenever possible. Right now the station is down again with another power outage. I'll see if it boots up OK when they get the power back up. Unfortunately it is 650 miles away and I would hate to have to do any major program changes over a dial-up line...Thanks again, bud!Al n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk Event Log CRP9 SR1 Why on earth do all of the different events all have the same Event ID? This is really a pain to sort. ### Assistant: That is one of my complaints as well. Troubleshooting would be a lot easier if I could filter out unnecessary messages. Closest thing I can do today is use the Filter in the FactoryTalk Diagnostics Viewer (*not* the Windows Event Viewer), and go to View-> Options-> Filter. From here I can filter based on message content. So if I want to only see messages that contain a certain string, I can set this here. Also can filter on Provider to get a little more granularity. Not as useful as more descriptive Event IDs, but it's the best I've got. For lack of anything better I usually export from the Windows Event log as CSV, then use the Excel Clean() function to remove the CRs from the description field. Then you can use various string functions to filter the list but it is still ridiculous that we have to resort to this. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Generic Extra DataConfig_ Reg Dear all, I don have any idea about how to give values to the Generic Extra Data Config, present in the I/O details of the analog modules. Any idea about tat??? ### Assistant: Which is the Module are you trying to configure?What version of RSLogix500 ? Here a description of the Generic Extra Data tab: The Generic Extra Data Config is used in RSLogix500 to configure a specialty module that requires setup information in order to operate. A programmer can either enter this information through the configuration screens or manually set the data on the generic extra data config screen.When a new module is released and not yet fully supported in RSLogix500 the module is entered in as a Other type of module and will not have any configurations screens. The Generic Extra Data Config screen would be used in order to configure and get the module operational So, if you have the module in the I/O list, it isn't necessary to set the Generic Extra Data, you may do the configuration through the configuration mask inside module properties... - fuzzy logic the version of RS Logix is 7.10.00. its micrologix 1500 PLC Once i downloaded a program in to the system .At that time, only one Analog module was not giving proper output.The description of that Module in the I/O config was OTHERThen i entered the values of Generic Extra Data Config, as in the previous program.After that it was working well... the screen looked like,... Well, this is a normal behavior.... as I reported in my previous post, if you've to select a module in the I/O configuration and the module isn't available in your RS500 version, then you have to use OTHER and manually enter the Generic Extra Data configuration. To better reply to your question, about the meaning of the numbers you've to enter there, you've to reply to my first question.... :smileywink: Which is the Module are you trying to configure? The analog module catalog # is needed for us to be able to help you.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Error Schedule FTAC Dear All, I'm reconfiguring FTAC since my server crash after black out. I have configure FTAC Server and Agent, error message appeared when I try to run manual the schedule as follow :1. Waiting for interface2. Could not produce the end of schedule report for schedule Backup_1TCP-1/40 - PLC-5- 764 Could not find a part of the path 'C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataRockwellAssetCentreBackup_1TCP-140 - PLC-5- 764.txt'.I try to find the the path and only found 'C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataRockwellAssetCentre. Please advise regards,Jerry ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: When I take my RsLogix500 project offline, I can't change my Msg instruction from Local to Remote ? When I take my online Rslogix500 Project offline, then I can not change my Msg instruction from Local to Remote.When going offline I get a message that I have a Read only file. Does someone had the same problem ? What can I do ? ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the File Properties (right click over the .rss offline file, Properties) and see if it is marked as Read-Only... eventually remove that selection and retry. When you say you cannot change, what exactly do you mean ? Did you get errors or just you're unable to save ? - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: F100 on 4M When I was setting the communication parameters on one of the 4M drives (through the keypad), and after cycling power on the 480AC line to the drives, 1 off the drives was showing F100. (Parameter Checksum Fault). Forcing me to reset all parameters back to default, and then reenter them. What causes this fault! (or better, how can we avoid this). I don’t want my customer to have to do this, but remember having similar checksum problems on a GV300 systems years back. In that case the drives were on a DC bus and Rockwell claimed the problem was that the bus voltage dropped to quick.These drives are not on a DC bus.Guys, any thoughts here would be awsome! ### Assistant: Unfortunately it isn't documented a probable cause for this fault, just it is indicated to Restore Default Parameters and retry...It could be a random and false checksum error, but if it often reappears, then it is a true checksum fault and the drive will need to be replaced. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: panelview 600 problem gday all, I have a warning/ alarm appearing on my panelview 600 screen, it is a hand in a red circle with red line through it . It seems to indicate ' DONT TOUCH' can anyone tell me what this indicates exactly.........thanks ### Assistant: In order to better understand..... Which is the exact model of your Panelview ? (Standard , Plus, Component)Where do you see that image ? (inside the application screen, system screen...)Which action you may take to continue your work, if possible ? A picture of that indication would also be great..... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Errors from SLC 5/05 Plc is 5/05 connected to ethernet. A panelview 1500 on entry end and a panelvew 700 on the exit end of machine. The 700 displays a string of errors sometimes requiring a acknowledge. The machine does not stop running. What is causing errors, how can I see them in real time? example: B30:0-B30:8 from RSlinx enterprise ethernet 192.168.5.100 B35:2-B35:9 from RSlinx enterprise ethernet 192.168.5.100 N31:10-N31:11 from RSlinx enterprise ethernet 192.168.5.100 N36:10-N36:65 from.................. ### Assistant: Do you have a more detailed error message to post ?May you indicate in whick kind of objects are you using these PLC addresses inside the PVP application?Are the two applications for your PVP (1500 and 700) the same ? - fuzzy logic The 2 panelviews are on the smae machine , same newtork. The 1500 controls the entry end and the 700 controls exit end. They will both normally display any alarms at the smae time and you can clear from either, but not with this string. The alarms I posted keep repeating and then will stop on thir own. May not come back for a couple of days, then do it again for a couple of days. The only problem I see are some comm. collisions. After reading some other posts, I may look closer at the RSLinx enterprise EE13, a technique I sometimes use to troubleshoot comm errors is to run ME Station on a computer. I modify the application so that it uses RSLinx Classic instead of RSLinx Enterprise. I run the application and let it experience the errors. Then I go into RSLinx-> DDE/OPC-> Communication Events and see what errors are recorded here. For some reason I find these errors more descriptive in many cases. I would have expected a more descriptive error in the Information window that pops up. If there is a clue there, you don't need to do the RSLixn Classic trick. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Project Documenter Hey Yall, I've just finished a HMI project for a machine and used the project documenter for the first time. the system is ME and the html file was generated on my laptop. I now have the problem of being unable to open the document on any other pc. i took a look on the knowledge base and seen that the xml's for the document reside in C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareProject Documenter'project name' so i tried copying the structure and put it on a pc, but this would not open it either, so i'm just wondering is this possible? ### Assistant: Hi John, are you trying to open the document on another PC using Project Documenter or just an xml viewer ? If you're in the first case, then be aware you'll need to have also the related ME project on that PC, to let the Project Documenter be able to retrieve the needed informations to show. If in the second case, which is the error do you get ? - fuzzy logic hey fuzzy, its the second case, when i created the project document i exported it, then i saved as xxx.html onto the server. i then sent this to the customer so they could review but they were unable to open it, just got a 'cannot open page' error.I then took a look at some aids on kb and saw that the info is stored in directory as above, so i copied out all that and put into the same folder on other pc but still would not open. Basically i want to create the project document in .html and send it to customer so that they can see it.P.S its only the display info i want to create. John, I've made some tests here, tried to generate a report using Project Documenter and exported as .html Then, from the folder you've indicated, I've copied the <Application name>.html and the <Application name> folder to another PC... I've the same issue as you.... Looking inside the .html file, using Notepad, you may see there is the path of the original place where the files were, created by the Project Documenter... so, you've two ways to solve: Create the same path to the destination PCEdit the .html file and find/replace the original path with the new one.After that, you will need to move to the right path also the file named ProjDocSchema.xsl from the original folder, as it is needed to the xml files to open. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Fuzzy,I came to the same solution as that, tried creating the same path in the destination pc but didn't work so i'll give a go at editing the path in the .html file. Either of these solutions are not ideal though maybe someone from rockwell should re-think this one! Cheers anyway, will let you know if i get it sorted. Hey John, did you also copy the file as indicated in the orange text of my previous post, after correcting path? I've solved using that workaround.... :smileysurprised: If not, please post a screenshot of the error you get.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Changing a Host ID from a hard disk to a network card Hello, I am wanting to change the host ID for my activations from the hard disk to a network card. If I re host an activation, can I simply type in the host ID from the network card? The re host utility will automatically place the hard disk ID in that field.Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: Please follow the instructions you may find inside technote 44620. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Hi, thanks for your reply. I have had a look at the videos but I am still wondering at what point in the rehosting process you are able to change the host ID? The rehost utility generates a new code, is it at this point you are able to change the ID or do you change the ID when you are on-line to Rockwell?Thanks. Here from the last part of the indicated technote: On the Rehost Activations page of the Rockwell Software Activation website, enter the rehost code and Host ID, and enter your product's serial number. Click Rehost.The system confirms the rehost code, generates a new activation file, and resets your account in the customer database.Select Get Activations on the Rockwell Software Activation website.Follow the steps to download a new activation file that is tied to the new Host ID you want to use.Basically, using the rehost code, you're able to generate a new activation file, so that you can get the activation exactly as it was the first time... then, when you're connected to Rockwell Activation server, you may indicate the new Host ID. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help! You're welcome ! :smileyhappy: Thanks to you for the feedback. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Micrologix 1000 series changes. Hi All, I was wondering what series the Micrologix 1000 has gone through? Thanks ### Assistant: From series A - October 1994, to series E - July 1998. Complete list inside Aid 16271 (TechConnect Authorization required) Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy I don't have TechConnect authorization (I tried to read the knowledgebase document before posting here) but your answer provided me with what I wanted to know. Thanks a bunch,Philip You're welcome, Philip ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView 32 SCADA not Opening Dear all, While opening the SCADA file , i`m getting the message,  DLGRDSV32.DLL was not found. Re install the application Is there any way to solve the problem without re installing SCADA? Wat might have caused this problem??? ### Assistant: Please confirm for sure the .dll name is correct.... I cannot find any infos about it. If possible, please post a screenshot of the error message... also Operating System and RSView32 version could help. - fuzzy logic Actually that was a wrong information from the client side.They have tried to operate the SCADA after formatting the PC. Tats reason for error message.I restored the system by selecting a restore point. Now , i faced a different problem. I cant establish communication between PC and PLC.When pressing the  Autoconfigure  in RSLinx, i got the message ,  Unable to open specified COM port for configuration testing  After that , restarted the system for so many times and tried to communicate.But, the system got configured in my sixth attempt of restart. What might have caused this problem???Is this a hardware or software problem???? This error message is usually seen when some other program has already grabbed the COM port that RSLinx Classic is trying to reserve.To solve this problem, you will need to identify what program has the COM port. One common source of conflict would be if both RSLinx Classic and RSLinx Enterprise are installed on the same computer. If so, and if RSLinx Enterprise also has a serial driver, go to the Windows Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Services and stop RSLinx Enterprise (right-click and select Stop). Otherwise, you've to troubleshoot your system, Aid 31573 could help (TechConnect Authorization required to access) - fuzzy logic is there any software to identify Programs that use COMM port??? I've never used such programs, anyway here you may find some indications: http://www.hardforum.com/archive/index.php/t-713296.htmlhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896644.aspx Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk Services Platform: Maximum number of projects or servers? Greetings Does anybody have an idea of how many View SE Projects can be hosted on one FactoryTalk Directory?Secondly, What is the Server Limit? I have browsed the knowledgebase without finding the info. Regards ### Assistant: Following a collection of technotes that could help on that: Aid 58382 - Multiple FactoryTalk Applications within a Single FactoryTalk DirectoryAid 58803 - Network FactoryTalk Directory (FTD) Best PracticesAid 32549 - View SE Distributed System Design Considerations Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy Logic, Once again you have been great with your assistance. Thanks for the TechNotes. Although there is good information about the maximum number of servers that a single application can handle I.E. 10, and the MAX Clients = 50, The origional Question remains unsolved. How many HMI Applications can be hosed on 1 FTD. Currently we have several HMI APPS Sharing 1 FTD in multiple areas of the plant. We are currently rolling out CPR9 and consolidating the Numerous FTD's. Currently we have around 36 SE Applications running with Redundant HMI and Redundant RSLinx Enterprise Server Configuration I.E 4 Servers per Application. We have one department that will have over 10 Applications on 1 FTD. The IO And APP Servers will be conbined, so the Server hardware will be reduced by 5%, but the question still remains if a Single FTD can Handle more than 10 Projects. Here is an Extract of the Tech Note Many Thanks for your positive feedback, Kelesis... :smileyhappy: Did you see the first indicated technote?Here an extract: However, in a production environment, it is highly recommended that only one active FT Application exist in the FTD. An active FT Application is defined as an application that has:Data Servers actively communicating with plant floor devicesHMI Servers loadedClients actively communicating with any Servers- fuzzy logic Hi OK, This has now opened up a can of worms. I have been in contact with Rockwell Automation Middle East, South Africa, and Europe. Everybody has a Different Opinion about what the best most practical design is. Here's a bit of Background. We Have Multiple Departments with this Design: 1. FTD with RSOPC Gateway and FTAssetCentre running on one Server.2. Multiple Level 2 systems (2 Application and 2 Data servers) redundant. worst Case Scenario 6 Applications per FactoryTalk Direcrory.3. FactoryTalk Security is Implemented plant wide with multiple users and permissions assigned.4. That's a total of around 25 Servers per FactoryTalk Directory. In the TechNote it states that 10 Servers supported per HMI Application??? Or FactoryTalk Directory???Next it says that Rockwell Highly recommends that you only run 1 FTD per Application? Who the Hell wrote that TechNote? - Does he live in a cave? Currently the Migration to CPR9 SR2 is to provide a more stable, uniform environment for our engineers and clients to maintain. We are achieving this by doing the following. Standardising the patches on all systems - I.E. CPR9 SR2.Reducing the server install base by 50% by incorporating the APP and Data Servers into one Box.Splitting the FTAC and FTD onto their own Boxes. If we follow the recommendation of having one FTD per Project then what happens to the whole design philosophy that was originally signed off by Rockwell themselves? Hi, reading the various technotes on the argument, you may find the indication to the system limits; there, you may understand that a distributed application should consist of a maximum 10 HMI servers and should have its FTD. Well, this FTD should not be shared with other applications (then, no more HMI servers :smileysurprised: ) in a production environment.... Anyway Kelesis, reading the story in your posts, and understanding the complexity of your installations, I strongly suggest to get in touch with your Rockwell representative and ask to meet a View SE Specialist (Commercial Enginner / Solution Architect). Let him re-analyse your systems and suggest the best way to go. - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy_logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS View ME upgrade from CPR7, 4.1 to CPR9 5.1 I just upgraded to CPR9 logix 5000 V17, when I tried to open my RS View, it would not let it open, tried to down load 5.1, but instructed me to remove old program, removed old program, and tried to download new version, it then asked for old program, when I tried to reload old version of ME it was not compatible with CPR9 and would not reload. Please help me. ### Assistant: Sounds like the old version of ME did not get fully removed. Chances are this one will need some heavy duty cleaning. Best bet is to contact tech support directly (either by Chat or phone). JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Safe off Status Hey, I have a K6k system with 6 drives, i've just powered up to tune/hookup etc. but i cannot enable the drive, power wiring is ok all my indicators are ok but the safe off status is on even though i have the motion allowed header in place. so i end up getting the 'Drive locally disabled' message. Anyone with any thoughts? RegardsJ ### Assistant: Hi John, first i've to say I'm not an expert on that...anyway, trying to help.... :smileywink: Some technotes report the needs to use the Motion Allowed Header to be sure tha safe-off circuitry is ok...you wrote it is in place.... hmmmm.... Take a look to Aid 40557 and then Aid 36752 and see if they help.... - fuzzy logic Ah sure what can i say fuzzy, NEWBIES!!!!wired the motor feedback cable into the i/o connector!i didn't even realise it until i started going through the system with a multi meter,strange though that the drive didn't go into fault? anyway sorted now cheers for the feedback:) why did my last post say that i'm a new member 'FTSLM'? Uh ! :smileysurprised: I've noticed this.... did you ever configure such a user in the KB / Forum ? If not, then a Moderator will have to check it in the system to see what happens .... - fuzzy logic I have no idea. When I look at the log, it shows the post as coming in under a completely different user. Did you have anyone using you machine that day and they forgot to logout of the forums or KB? JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Float on Dnet!! I cant use float point at Dnet HMI's? I was trying to put some floating values on a PV600 and on a PV550 at Dnet using M-file, its possible?!?!:robotindifferent: ### Assistant: As I recall, you can... but the float will take up 2 words (32 bits) of the M file. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Project Won't Start In Test Application Mode I've been using Factory Talk Studio (ME) for awhile on a particular laptop. Lately when I go to the Running Man to test the application instead of going to my defined startup screen a screen appears similar to what you would see if you hit the Go To Configuration button on a PanelView plus. It gives the options to load or run an application or go into setup etc. If you test run a screen and then try to test the application the application will start up correctly. What got broken and how can I fix it? Thanks, Troy ### Assistant: One of these three fixes should take care of this issue. Remove ME station application from start upOpen ME station make sure that ME station is not set to run application on startupUninstall/reinstall RSLinx Enterprise.- fuzzy logic Thanks for the suggestions. I have one question. When you say startup do you mean from the startup configuration of the application or from the startup folder in Windows? I'm assuming that you mean from Windows. nan RSLinx Enterprise is an integral part of the ME comms system. Even if you are using another data source (ie, RSLinx Classic), RSLE must be installed correctly for ME to function. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix 5000 - 1756-RIO Module I am replacing a PLC5 and rack with a ControlLogix rack with a L62 processor. The PLC5 used a remote I/O link to talk to two SLC racks with 1747-ASB modules. In each of the two SLC racks there is a 1746-NO4I analog output module 1746-NO4I. These modules are not listed in the 1756-RIO user manual as being supported. Does anyone know if the 1756-RIO can communicate with 1746-NO4I analog modules? ### Assistant: Block transfer module templates have been created and installed by the add-on that is on the CD that ships with your module. If your module is not in the list, you can use the Generic BT_MODULE profile in the software, or create your own template specific to your exact module or configuration. The appendix C of User Manual covers the basics for creating your own module template. So the answer is yes, you can use that analog module, just it isn't already prepared and ready to use as the others in the list.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLinx Problem? I recently had to transfer all our A/B software and activations to a new computer. Everything went fine until I started testing communications. I have two systems, an RS5000 and a Micrologix 1400 that use Ethernet to access the processors. In the past I have had problems with the RS5000 system but only because they use an odd IP that starts with 120. Since the move I have not been able to establish communications with the Micrologix unit, IP 192.168.10.1. In the past I was able to establish the connection by simply having the TCP/IP search automatically. Now, if I do that, it finds some odd 168 IP and will not communicate. The RSLINX ETH-1 driver keeps finding UNRECOGNIZED DEVICES with IP's close to the right one, but not quite; 192.168.8.0. The IP of the M/L is 192.168.10.1, 255.255.255.0, I was using 192.168.10.0 with 255.0.0.0. This is the only configuration I could get the system to accept. Any one know what I'm doing wrong??? ### Assistant: First try to see if it is an EDS problem, maybe the RSLinx isn't the last, or still need a newer EDS file for the MX1400 to be seen online; Aid 37958 could help on that. If this has been done and problem still exists then it could be a issue with the harmony files.Then try to follow instructions in Aid 48241 to delete them. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic What do you mean Fuzzy by harmony files ???? The Harmony files are cache files related to the RSLinx functionality. Previous indicated technote and Aid 5765 explain something about them.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Ideally you should have the same Subnet Mask for your controllers and for your computer. Changing the computer's subnet mask to a Class A instead of a Class C network is a workaround, but not an ideal one. Also, the Host Number should never be 0 or 255. Here's something that may be affecting you: leading zeroes in a configuration field. If you enter an IP address into the RSLinx Ethernet Devices driver and include a leading zero (like 010) the value will be interpreted as an Octal number.I think this is also true if you use a leading zero when entering an IP address into the configuration of a MIcroLogix or SLC-5/05 controller in RSLogix 5000. 192.168.010.1 = 192.168.8.1 because 010 octal = 8 decimal Octal and Decimal numbering confusion are at the root of the worst PLC programmer joke I know, which is simply the statement: Christmas and Halloween are equal. If the MicroLogix IP address is 192.168.10.1, Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 then your Computer's IP address should be 192.168.10.x, Subnet mask 255.255.255.0, where x= an unused number between 2 and 254. Thanks for that ! I was using a leadind zero in the RsLinx configuration, thus the 192.168.8.0 that was being found. After correcting this I was able to connect through Ethernet ETH-1. Ken Roach made me wonder, writing about a programmer joke I was not aware of ... :smileysurprised: so I've made some investigations and got the following infos: LINK 1LINK 2LINK 3 Just posted for those, like me, curious about that... or am I the only one to be unaware of this joke ?! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, Carrying on along those lines... There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary numbers and those who don't n"}
{"text": "### Human: Can't open a project Hi all! I started to study RSLogix5000 recently so I don't understand some aspects of working with the program. I have a project which I cannot open. Every time I try to open it I get following warning: What does it mean exactly? ### Assistant: You are trying to open a project that was created with RSLogix5000 version 16, but you have not installed this version on your PC. The application proposes you to upgrade the project to a newer version => Click Change Controller to upgrade. Best RegardsStefan You have to have the same version of RSLogix 5000 as the one used to realize the program you're trying to open... evidently you've not installed the version 16 of RSLogix 5000 on your PC. Using instead the other proposed solution, pressing the Change Controller revision button, you will convert the actual .ACD file to the version you've installed on your PC.This could be ok for you to open and edit it, but you have to be aware of possible problems if you will try to download it to the controller, as the firmware should also be aligned with the RSLogix 5000 software version....see Lock-Step infos on Aid 59000. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: the replacement for 2094-BM02 Our system is using 2094-BM02. Now, 2094-BM02 was broken. Can we replace 2094-BM02 by 2094-BM02-S ? Do we need to change anything in program of Controllogix ?Please help to advise detailedly the difereence between 2094-BM02 and 2094-BM02-S ### Assistant: 2094-BMxx drives without safe off are Silver Series products. The –S (Safe-Off) Kinetix 6000 is a direct drop in replacement; the Kinetix 6000 drive firmware is the SAME for safe off or non safe. So, as far as I know, you may replace it without changes in ControlLogix program.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: scanport to 700 drive We are replacing a 1336 plus drive with a powerflex 700 standard control I can find the information that tells what you need to do to accomplish this, except for the information that tells you what bits to use for control and speed reference does anyone know where to find this information? ### Assistant: May you please post more details ? Which is the scanport device do you want to use ? For example, here a couple of technotes about some scanport conversions... Aid 21565Aid 43077 HERE also some infos about conversion.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: System Configuration I was hoping for some help. I have worked on AB plc's for a number of years as an end user. We now have the opportunity to create a system from the beginning. Is there any tools to help determine which system would fit best? We were thinking to incorporate a Micrologix 1500, as we have a not-used unit here. We need a number of inputs/outputs. We need to send / receive data from a camera that will be reading an LCD screen. (DVT 530)We need to read 12VDC +/-0.5V (output from UUT)we also need to read 0.85V +/- 0.8V (output from UUT)and 230Vac+/-10 (60Hz) (output from UUT) ### Assistant: Take a look to the following web site: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/en/e-tools/ Unfortunately the PLC family selector isn't available right now, this is the tool you're searching for.Other Tools are available there, like ProposalWorks or Integrated Architectur Builder, those may help you to select the correct hardware and define your architecture. The Micrologix Selection Guide could also help on that. - fuzzy logic well the 1500 can have expansion modules added so thats a plus... It depends on the base you have as to what may need to be added... camera talk depends on what its sending and if its comm properties can be manipulated... ascii string... charecters... control codes...etcsome bases have analog capability..dc tho..230 vac may be a problem ( they have 120 vac input but not analog) they have no analog input cards of that value... may have to feed it to a resistor network to reduce it but your local distributor should have someone that can visit and review your options with you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compact Logix Data Logging to CompactFash? Dear all,:smileywink: Would like to ask if the CompactFlash for the CompactLogix can be used as temporarily data logging storage.If yes, how could I retrieve those data and migrate to the logging database? say MSSQL express version. Since my client afraid his plant floor RSView32 terminal turn off accidently and need to replace the existing ML1100 by a CompactLogix. :smileytongue:Thanks for any kindly assistance in advance. Best Rgds.,Man ### Assistant: Hi, read first this other topic After that, I have to say there isn't a tool to extract and save the logged data from CF card, as on Micrologix... as you may read in a technote indicated in that topic, the data will be written out as binary to the CompactFlash card. Attempting to open up the file in a text editor will work, but the contents displayed will be the ASCII equivalent of the binary data. Another solution could be to use the Controller Memory to log data (this should be verified - available/needed memory ) and use either RSLinx as OPC server or an RS5000 tool to extract and convert data. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PID programming sample Hello...Anybody here can help me. I have project using an analog input and analog output. I have no idae how to setup a PID using a RS5000 software.If you can provide me a sample program it might help. THANKS...:smileyhappy: ### Assistant: Try to start from Reference Manual, chapter 13. There are also some technotes with examples and basic setup, like Aid 40236... just you need a TechConnect Authorization number to access. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic THANKS MR. FUZZY_LOGIC...:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Allen-Bradley Power Flex 4 I was involved in a project that required three conveyors to run at the same speed and the engineer suggested that we connect three motors in parallel, connected to an A-B PowerFlex 4. When we tried to run the drive it acted very strange. Two of the motors were rated at .8 amps and the third was rated at 1.4 amps. If we connected only one of the motors it would run just fine. Is it possible to connect three motors to one drive? Thanks, Dan G ### Assistant: Yes it is possible, with the following provisions: 1. Motors all the same size ( matched impedances )2. VSD drive size = load motors + 13. Output choke used ( same rating as the drive )4. Separate overloads to each motor ( no bimetals ) 140M units are ok5. set VSD for standard v/Hz ( no auto tuning )6. Keep total cable lengths to under 100 metres I would say that the reflected waves from each of the motors is screwing up the drive. The output choke should solve this. Is it OK to use 140M with thermal overload on output of PowerFlex 755 drive? I am running 5 motors V/Hz from 1 Frame6 55kW HD drive. But I want individual overloads. Is it OK to use the 140M with thermal overload, or should I use 140M with mag trip only. ThanksJohn Dunn Check out the following Knowledgebase documents 17221 & 18270 for RA answersThe issue with thermals is the vibration caused by the 2/4 khz carrier frequencyI have seen o/loads with snapped heater element bars ( caused by mech vibration from the carrier frequency ) n"}
{"text": "### Human: update processors and IO modules in RSLogix 500 only Hi,Is there a way how to update processors or IO modules and keep RS logix 500 version? I have a RS Logix 7.10.00 and would like to make a project with Micrologix 1400. Unfortunatelly I can not select that procesor from processor selection table. And I would like to keep RS Logix version. ThanksMartin ### Assistant: No. The MicroLogix 1400 has a new operating system and has new features that do not exist in any previous controller. You must upgrade your software to the current revision (RSLogix 500 version 8.10) for MicroLogix 1400 support. This is one of the services that is included in all TechConnect support contracts. It is very easy, if you have a support contract, to download and install a software update. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarms and Events - Theory and Flow Where can I find a good description of how A&E works with FT View? I need to do a presentation to management. They are very technically competent. Several have done Wonderware and RSView systems in the past. I have used A&E before and vaguely know how it works. I need some kind of block diagram or flow chart to show:1. How the alarm works in the PLC.2. How the communication to FT View works.3. How FT View process the alarm and logs it. I have dug threw the literature and Knowledge base and manuals and cannot find any concise source on theory and flow. A picture is worth a thousand words. I am not sure I have enough information to make such a picture and get it correct. ### Assistant: This gives the kind of break down. It was taken directly from FT Alarms and Events Quick Start Guide. The whole PDF and a description of the different componets can be found here. Hope that helps out. I have looked at this diagram before. I was more looking for the flow of how a single alarm from ControlLogix trickles threw the system. Also things like line #1 in the diagram, is that an unsolicited message or the result of RSLinx Enterprise scanning. I suspect that one of the efficiencies of A&E is that it does not scan all the alarms all the time. How does #3 know when there is a new alarm. I know from previous conversations these are questions my management will ask. RSLinx Enterprise merely subscribes to the alarm source. It does no polling. So it is more like the Rockwell produce/consume model; it is a I will tell you about it it when it happens kind of thing. Does that answer the question? Part of it. What is the complete picture? I looked for similar info on produce/consume model and cannot find it. OK, I'll try another explanation. FTAE has 2 mechanisms for alarming - Logix-based and tag based. For Logix-based alarms, this requires a CLX or CompactLogix of sufficient firmware to have the ALMA and ALMD instructions (v16 and above). The processor determines when the alarm occurs by energizing these alarming instructions. This sends a messages to FTAE through RSLinx Enterprise that an alarm has occurred. No polling exists in this scheme - think of the ALMA/ALMD instructions as a sort of unsolicited message. The other options is tag-based. You define tags that point to addresses in the controller and define what conditions indicate an alarm. The FTAE alarm server polls those addresses and notifies the client (for example, an FTAE alarm summary). The advantage is that non-Logix-based controllers can benenfit from FTAE alarms. The drawback is that you are back to polling, which does put more traffic on the network. How was that? :smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Form of CLX power supply load computations Actually Controllogix is totally new to me. Im using SLC's most in my projects. Anybody here can give me a CLX power supply load calculation forms to get desired power supply needed in my CLX setup. Thank you in advance...:smileyhappy: ### Assistant: You may use the attached configuration file. See also the PS Technical Data. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Re-tune Some one know where I can get info about a detailed description of tuning procedures?I need to understand when I need to make a new tune to my system. Or if I need to adjust some values or gains.I have some problems with loose position, torque over limits and some noises. ### Assistant: Here following a list of useful technotes and manuals.... search for Tuning inside the .pdf Kinetix 6000 Multi-axis Servo Drives User ManualMotion Modules in Logix5000 Control SystemsAid 24152 - Motion Control Tuning BasicsAid 24665 - Advanced Motion Tuning PowerpointAid 24463 - Autotuning a SERCOS driveAid 58167 - A simple guide to tuning a sercos servo axis TechConnect Authorization required to access the Technotes.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SMC-3 control terminal question I have a really basic question on some new SMC-3 (150-C16NBD) softstarts I am installing: How are IN1 & IN2 used? I dont understand how they work or what they are. The datasheet does not say. Thanks! Jeff ### Assistant: See the following technotes... Aid 62695 - Aid 62696 - Aid 24364 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: panelview 1000 My panelview 1000 is coming up with Ethernet error = 16420,0,0. the comms status is saying attached and its also saying im connected to the network????? ### Assistant: Invalid gateway address found. Verify gateway address. Re-enter gateway. This error is caused by entering 0.0.0.0 as the Gateway address...If no Gateway address is used, leave the field blank as 0.0.0.0 is not a valid address To access the Gateway Address in PanelBuilder32, go to Application Settings and select Communications Setup, and press Ethernet Config Button... press OK when edited.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Is this an activation problem? I have installed FactoryTalk View Studio v5.1. When I try to open an application the scroll bar gets to loading services and stops.I have reinstalled two times with no warnings or errors. We have this running on two other laptops with no issues. Is this an activation issue? I am running XP pro with Service Pack 3. I have attached a screen shot. ### Assistant: Not necessarily :smileytongue: Try first to see if Aid 39501 could help.... - fuzzy logic So i just did what that aid document said with the same results. It freezes at loading services everytime. Wow.... :smileysad: Just add some other infos please... :smileywink: Does it happen opening all applications ? Also sample projects ?What about the New projects ? Anyway, the only Activation related problem I remember is explained in Aid 36198, but I don't know if it applies to your issue... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic The same thing happens when I try to open a old application or a sample applilcation. When I try to open a new application I never get any scroll bar at all it just locks up. Should I do a add/remove uninstall and start over? Ok so I just rechecked the RSLINX Classic Install log and found two errors. I have attached another screen shot. It will help if you identify which package you are working with as both ME and SE have ver 5.1 .. and opening a project developed in one does not guarantee you can open it with the other package. When you install the software there is a preferred order of what is installed or uninstalled... jumping past steps is a bad thing.. Sorry. I am running ME 5.1. The only applications I have tried to open are ME apps. I think I am going to do a complete uninstall then go back throgh the installation process again. I didn't skip any steps in the installation process So uninstalling everything and reinstalling didnt help the problem. Anyone have any guesses? Should I roll-back SP3 and reinstall that? Hmmm... my suggestion here is to call in Tech Support guys, they may guide you to do a clean manual uninstall of your FactoryTalk View ME... I've solved some problems in the past with this procedure, hope the same for you ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I just uninstalled alot of old programs and competitors software and such. Now I am getting a rsdbgutils.DLL file not found error. I am going to try reinstalling it one more time. Not a known Activation's Problem.I have seen that behavior when there is a problem with the FTSP security.Unfortunatelly because it's a security thing, I can't post the data here. I suggest that call into support where they can walk you through getting this cleaned up. Well it sorta works now. After I boot my PC I have to go into add/remove and repair FactoryTalk Services Platform 2.10 I can then open an applilcation. Although once I close FTV Studio I have to restart the PC and repair FactoryTalk Services again. I am going to call support later to see what I can do to fix this. Well I guess you could say that it is solved. I formated my laptop and reinstalled everything and everything works now. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 800F Selector Switch Contact Block Configuration -- Need Help. Hi All, I am trying to configure a 22mm 800F 3 position, return from right, illuminated selector switch. I want to use this like a start/stop button combination. When the switch is in the left positon (STOP) I want a set of contacts to be open. This would be in the STOP circuit. When in the center (or ON) position I need the STOP contacts to be closed. In the right (START) positon I need a second set of contacts to close. When these contacts close I will start a motor and latch it in. I will also energize the LED light in the switch. When the switch is released it will spring back to center (ON). The second set of contact will open but the motor will continue to run and the LED will stay lit. If the power is removed the motor will stop and the LED will go out. When the switch is moved to the left (STOP) the light will go out and the motor will stop. I have tried the RA on-line configuration screen but it tells there are no contact blocks to do what I want. I don't beleve that. I must be doing something wrong. Any help? ThanksPhilip ### Assistant: Gear required:800FPLSR33800FN3G ( green LED 24vdc )800FALP800Fx10 (n/o) on left side800FX01 (n/c) on Right sideLight wired to aux on Contactor David, Thank you so much for your assistance with this. 2 thumbs up! n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 v.7.5 Dear All, I had problem with RSView32, when I try to open my old project or the sample project, the project progress up to 70%, pop up the follow message: RSview32, fail to launch VBA server I had search all over the knowledge base and find that:1. To modify the registry, however I can't find the mentioned registry key in the specified location and also the mentioned key was not found.2. To un-install MS office 2000 and then re-install the RSView323. Un-install RSView32 and then delete the VBA folder under the C:Program FilesCommon FilesMicrosoft Shared, then re-install the RSView32 All above 3 mention can't solve my problem. The RSView32 was run on MS Windows2000 SP4 platfrom. RSlinx will works with the RSView32 to retrieve data from the ML1500 and MSSQL2005 Express was installed as tag value logging. If any master have this problem before and any suggested solution to me. Thousand Thanks in advance. Best Rgds.,Man ### Assistant: Hi, my suggestion is to try a manual uninstall (Aid 7698) and then a new install, double checking Aid 21105 and Aid 9742. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Our client finally give us a brand new Windows XP PC to install the RSView32 and hence no problem. But I still not figure out the solution, hope this will not happen again.:smileyvery-happy: knowbase doc 53997 - What's new in RSView32 7.5 SR-1? you may have incompatable version of 2000 or other support software as outlined : ie 2000 pro SP4 supported n"}
{"text": "### Human: How many activations each year? My opinion about FTA is, I hope, very clear by now. But maybe I don't have all the facts. Can a Rockwell Software person tell me how many activations get served out every year? Is FTA there to protect 10,000 activations? 100,000? 1,000,000? ### Assistant: 114 views, no responses. I suppose you could call AB in Milwaukee and they might be able to tell you how many software packages have been sold in a year, But I think they may hold that competative information a little closer to the vest. I've been wondering how to apply to you for a very long time.I have written a post half a dozen times now and scratch it each time.The problem is I can not give you a number.So all, I can say is something that comes across like my 5 year old. A LOT, and not just a A LOT, but a WHOLE LOT, like seriously as far as my arms can stretch a lot. Which does not really give good perspective. So, I will offer you the next best thing, call me, we can talk a bit if you want, reply accordingly and I'll toss up a temporary email address and give you my direct number, I don't really want to give that out on a message board. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Adding drives over ControlNet require Processor Shutdown? I am planning to add four drives to a CLX PLC through a 1756-CNB card. Will the configuring of the drive I/O and CNet card require the processor to be in program mode? The PLC controls a continuous process so whether or not I have to take the processor offline is an important issue. Thanks! ### Assistant: In order to schedule your Controlnet, the processor must be in Program mode. See also Aid 46577. Only 1756 I/O could be added online, starting from RS5000 version 15, as they can be configured to use the unscheduled bandwidth over Controlnet.See Aid 62733 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Gearing status Hi everyone, Does anyone know if there a status bit present in the motion, indicating that no other axis is geared to this axis?Because homing a master axis with a slave still geared to it makes the slave axis do unexpected movements... If such a status bit does not exist, is it something for the development team to incorporate this? Best regards,Cee Ya ### Assistant: There isn't a bit available to do what you wish. You'll have to check all the GEARING STATUS (or POSITION CAM STATUS) bits of all the possible slaves of your master to be sure they're off before issuing the home routine. In your homng routine, try initiating a MAS ( stop the gearing) on the slave(s) unconditionally before hand to stop any active gearing to your master. As you are likely to know what slaves are likely to be geared (if more than one), you can test the gearing status of the slave axis to see if its actually geared (there are status bits for this). Alternatively, you can create your own flag that gets set when the MAG takes place and gets reset when the gearing gets stopped or the lock taken off the drive. Not quite what you asked for directly but plenty ot work arounds. Thanks for all your input. 'Unfortunately' all these solutions are already in place, but I hoped to save cycletime using this statusbit... Cee Ya n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel view 600 touch I would like to know witch software i'll need to program a panel view 600 touch will i be able to connect it directly to a SLC 5/03 Regards ### Assistant: You have to specify the catalog number of your Panelview... there are many models and types.... HERE you may find some infos about models and needed software... 5/03 processor has a DH-485 port and a RS-232 port you may use to connect your Operator Panel. Be more specific, post again and somebody will help you... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Sample code Does any body know how to get the sample code for the 1746-QV module? Thanks ### Assistant: If you want, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e.mail address, I'll send you back some infos... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 22- COMM-E and Drive Explorer I have used the 22-comm-e with powerflex40's and never had a problem. THis time I am using powerflex4's with a 22-comm-e and an 22-xcomm base (for housing the 22-comm-e) and I am going use multiple drive mode. Where I am currently stuck is that I cannot get into the 22-comm-e with drive explorer. I gives me some sort of error about text family not recognized. I am using ethernet to access the comm-3 parameters. Any ideas? Is it the x-comm htat's screwing me up? Do I need and add on. It says that I need to set these parameters initial before powering the drives. I just don't get it because I have accessed these before except they were always installed ina drive instead of the 22-xcomm.ANy help is appreciated ### Assistant: As far as I can remember, you have to follow these steps: 1. Set the 22-COMM to Multi-Drive2. connect to it only one drive3. access the drive (using the embedded HIM) and set the communication parameters (see image below - leave A104 to node 100)4. cycle power to the drive Now, the 22-Comm should be accessible by Drive Explorer. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Activation of RSLOGIX 5000 VERSION 10 TO 15 HI FELLOWSI AM IN BIG TROUBLE PLEASE HELP ME TO ACTIVATE THE RSLOGIX 5000.ACTUALLY MY COMPUTER IS DAMAGED DUE TO VIRUS. I INSTALL THE IMAGE WHICH IS PROVIDED BY THE MANUFACTURE SUCESSFULLY.BUT AFTER THE IMAGE RESTORE THE RS LINK 2.50.00.20(CPR 7) WORKING WELL. BEFORE RESTORE THE IMAGE THE RSLOGIX VERSION 10 AND 15 WORKING WELL. AFTER RESTORE THE IMAGE I INSTALL THAT VERSIONS BUT ASK FOR ACTIVATION?WHILE I SAID RS LINK WORKING WELL NO NEED TO INSTALL THE ACTIVATION KEY.ACCORDING TO MY KNOWLDGE THEY HAVE SAME ACTIVATION KEY.WHAT CAN I DO ANY CONFIGRATION I MISS OR PLEASE GUIDE METHANKING U I WILL REMAINHAMAD ### Assistant: What is indicated in the Title bar of RSLinx Classic ? ... as Lite version works without activation... Which is the activation type did you use ? *Old* EVmove or FactoryTalk Activation ? - fuzzy logic hi fellowsthe tittle bar shows RS LINK CLASSIC NO GATEWAY MENTIONED.AND WE USED EVMOVE OLD.ACTUALLY THE STORY IS THAT WHEN I RESTORE THE IMAGE THE RSLINK CLASSIC WHICH I MENTIONED IS RUNNING NO NEED OF ACTIVATION. RS LOGIX 5000 INSATLL LATER AFTER RESTORE IMAGE.IT IS NOT RESTORE WHEN IMAGE RESTORE.WHEN I GO TO PROGRAMS-->ROCKWELL SOFTWARE-->THERE IS UTILITY FOLDER AND HAVE A EMOVE EXE.I UNDERSATND THAT IN THE SYSTEM A ACTIVATION IS THERE FOR RSLINK CLASSIC BUT THIS ACTIVATION IS NOT HELPFUL TO ACTIVATE THE RSLOGIX 5000. AM I RIGHT OR WRONG? RS5000 should have its own activation, the one for RSLinx will not work for it... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Do you have key to activate for RSlogix5000?If you know how to activate it please let me knowthanks alot When you purchase a license for RSLogix 5000, it comes with directions about how to activate the software. There is abundant additional information about using this activation mechanism on the Rockwell Automation Support website. Have you purchased the software yet ? n"}
{"text": "### Human: FTVIEW SE WITH SIEMENS S5 CAN I EMPLOY THE HMI FTVIEW SE TO PULL INFORMATION FROM SIEMENS S5 155F CPU942?HOW SHOULD I IMPLEMENT AND CAN I GET FEW APPLICATION NOTES? ### Assistant: You can install 3rd party OPC server for SIEMENS S5 155F CPU942 and let FTView SE pull the data from the 3rd party OPC server. KEPServer Enterprise provides serial and Ethernet OPC servers that allow communication between many third-party industrial devices and RSView32, FactoryTalk View Site Edition, and FactoryTalk View Machine Edition. All drivers are supported by Rockwell Software. You may order it using the following catalog # : 9301-OPCSRVENE See this LINK to understand how it works and to download driver manual... this is the KepserverEX product, sold by Kepware, but the driver is the same you may find inside Kepware Enterprise sold by Rockwell Automation as indicated above. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Flash upgrade 1756SC-IF8H to 1756-IF8H Does anybody know if it is possible to flash a spectrum controls card so that is behaves like the rockwell version? I.e. I can use the rockwell add-on profile and not the spectrum profile. ### Assistant: Unfortunately this isn't possible.... :smileysad: Q: Will I be able to do a flash upgrade of existing Spectrum Controls HART modules to the new Rockwell catalog number firmware revision?A: No, the Spectrum Controls catalog number modules will only be compatible with the Spectrum Controls firmware and the Spectrum Controls module profile. [Reference] - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 5/03 how to expand IO Hi Everybody, I'm pretty new with allen bradley and i have to expand an existing SLC 5/03 to have more I/O. I would like to have a remote IO if is it possible..... Can somebody explain me what i need to do that, software and hardware, and if is it possible some manual that explain all that.... Your help will be greatly appreciated Regards ### Assistant: Hi mlepine, You can add 1747-SN module in your SLCcpu rack and reconfigure it.then via add 1747-ASB module in your slave rack to expand your remote I/O.This is easy to meet your goal.In forum there are plenty of this case.you can refer to others case.and you can download about 1747-SN and 1747-ASB manual from www.Rockwellautomation.com.The manual explain all you want to know about expand remote I/O issue.hope this can help you!good luck! Thank for your answer...... Will i need any other software than RSlogix 500 to do that or i'm able to do it using current RSlogix and Rs linx lite software Regards RIO configuration doesn't require particular software... it can be realized using RSLogix 500 and some hardware settings. - fuzzy logic You should only use the 1747-SN if you already have other RIO protocol hardware at your site. It's an older technology. You should talk to your local representative about the current offerings using DeviceNet and Ethernet. These are more appropriate for a new installation. Hmmmm... really the Ethernet is not a choice using SLC-500, as it cannot be used to control I/O... :smileysurprised: So you may use, other than RIO, Devicenet as well as Controlnet... you will need in that case a software to configure the network (RSNetworx for DeviceNet or ControlNet) and some hardware to be able to connect from your PC. 1747-SDN - DeviceNet Scanner1747-SCNR - ControlNet Scanner Anyway, a complete overview of Network Communications for SLC-500 is inside the Selection Guide, starting at page 39. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hi guys.... Thank for all those answer.... The only thing i want to di is to expand my existing rack... But according that there is no more room in my cabinet i have to place another one at a certain distance from the plc. So what will be the easiest way and affordable way to do that... I suppose is the RIO network using 1747-SN and an 1747-ASB...... I have a 5/03 plc and the only other thing i will need to connect is a panel view touch on that.... I'm waiting for your answer for the best tro do that Your help is very appreciated..... Regards Well, although the RIO is an *old* network, it seems to me the best choice for your application...it doesn't need particular software or interfaces to configure, and is quite easy to setup. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compact logix and panel view plus 600 compatibility issue I struck with a compatibility issue of Panel view Plus 600 with Compactlogix PLC system.I have created an Application in Factory Talk Me and linked with Compact logic system, tested the Application creating runtime Application in my Laptop every thing is fine i am able to communicate the tags of compactlogix and get the data but the same Application i have downloaded into the Panel View Plus 600(fm 5.00.01.55) , the data from the compactlogix is not getting.Compactlogix system is having the AENT Module with Flex I/O modules and communication between compactlogix system with Panel View is Ethernet I have tested the Panel View Plus 600 with Flex Logix system with some dummy application and found ok.Panel view is communicating with Flex Logix system without any issue.So with this tests its looking some compatibility issue with Compact logix system and panel view plus 600.The details of this configuration are as follows 1)Compactlogix(1769-L23EQB1B)-software version V 17.2 2)Factory Talk Me Release number: 5.00.00(CPR 9) Patch/Pack number : 00 Build number : 55 3)Panel View Plus 600(2711P-T6C20A) firmware :5.00.01.55(CPR 9) 4)AENT(1794-AENT/P) So please suggest me for the solution for this compatibility issue. ### Assistant: Using FactoryTalk View Studio v5.00, there is a minimum level of software and firmware needed to be able to communicate with a Compactlogix L23E. 1769-L23E will only show up in RSLinx Enterprise Communication Setup if minimum: You have FactoryTalk View Studio 5.0 installedYou have RSLinx Enterprise 5.17.00 installed. (See Answer ID 54104 - to download this version.)You have FactoryTalk Service Platform 2.10.01 installed. (See Answer ID 54104 - to download this version.)If you still can not see 1769-L23E delete Ethernet Driver and add again.The minimum firmware version of the PanelView Plus terminal needs to be 5.00.03 for successful communication to a 1769-L2x processor. This can be obtained from the Firmware Update web page. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: i need a catalouge for Drives Reliance Maxitron 8500 i need english manual for DC drive Reliance Maxitron S-6R 8506 ### Assistant: Unfortunately I'm unable to find it... just found the one for Maxitron 8000 I suggest to try to call in Technical Support at Rockwell Automation or directly Baldor, to ask for it. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Not able to add a module in Rslogix5000 Hi! I have a fast analog module 1769 IF4FXOF2F.I am using rslogix 5000 version 17.When i try to add new module in the compact bus,I am not able to find the above mentioned catalogue number.What am i supposed to do to add this new module into my project!...have done onething have called up near by support people they said they will get back in sometime....but i have no time to wait...someone please help...! ### Assistant: Try to reinstall the rslogix5000 with all components and libraries. If you still have that problem try to get some parch for that rslogix version.Regards Have a look to the User Manual - App. C, you may configure it using a Generic Profile. The manual gives also informations about the Channel Configuration inside the Configuration Data file.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Another solution is to download and install the latest Add-On Profile for RSLogix 5000 at the following link: http://support.rockwellautomation.com/controlflash/LogixProfiler.asp As you may see inside the attached Install Notes, the profile for your module has been added. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Torque Setting I have a Allen Bradley 1336F drive where I would like the drive to stop on high torque or current. At present the motor runs between 9.5 - 10 Amps so I would like it to stop at a setting of say 11.0 amps after a given time, is this possible? This is the first time I have used this make of drive so I could do with the help to create this please.Dave ### Assistant: Hi Dave, try to take a look to the User Manual, page 6-28 ... you may configure the Output relay either to At Current or At Torque as indicated.As far as I can remember, there isn't a way to have the Relay act with a delay. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Is the drive networked to a controller, so that the controller could read the torque current or output current and use its own timing capability to stop the drive ? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk View SE - mouse cursor stuck i am running FTV SE, when i change diplay screens the mouse pointer gets stuck within a box that looks about the same size as a button on the previous screen. Full movement can be restored by pressing the 'Windows' key on my keyboard, twice or by opening and closing Task Manager. The latest (as of yesterday) rolled-up patch for SE has been installed. Can anyone help me out please? ### Assistant: Bump!! Alas, I don't have access to the TechConnect stuff in the knowledgebase! But it looks like article 4994 could contain an answer to this if anyone could have a look for me......... Hi sollors, it looks like the same problem you have....as it is inside a TechConnect reserved doc, I can't attach it here...if you want, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, I will send you back some infos... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hi sollors, e-mail just sent...let me know ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, How about posting the link to the Tech Note in case anyone else has the same issue. It would save them the time of searching for it. Here we are.... :smileywink: Aid 4994 - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000 UDT examples Hi, I have my own limited UDT' library but am interested in finding some developed by others / site standards etc to see if I can improve on mine or simply plagiarise someone elses that is well developed/tested. Probably looking for device related items like valves/solenoid and pumps/motor etc. Appreciate your feedback. ### Assistant: 69FIREBIRD, There are some motor and valve Add-On Instructions (AOIs, for Version 16 or later of RSLogix 5000) in the PlantPAx Process Objects library. Version 1.0 of the library is posted on the KnowledgeBase (answer ID = 62682). It was announced that version 1.1 of the library is imminent, but the stuff that's in the 1.0 version should give you what you need. These AOIs include subordinate (contained) AOIs for Alarms and Mode. Instructions are there for Motor, 2-speed Motor, Reversing Motor, Hand-Operated Motor (monitor only), Solenoid Operated Valve, Motor Operated Valve, Hand-Operated Valve, Variable Speed Drive, Analog Input, Analog Output (manual loading station for you process guys as old as I am), Discrete Input, etc., plus some instructions for Permissives, Interlocks, Restart Inhibit, etc., etc. The valves and motors have optional feedback checking and other features too numerous to detail here. The instructions are not locked down, so you can see not only the data layout (the Parameters table is what you would use to model your UDT), but the code, Local Tags (internal data), etc. There's also a Reference Manual for each instrcution which shows how to configure it and what the faceplates (SE 5.0 or later) look like. Maybe you can use the library as-is (it's supported by Tech Support if you don't modify it), or steal from (I mean leverage) the designs for your own UDTs and code or AOIs. Good Luck! Dale, W8ABZ (You can call me 62CORVAIR. I have my grandmother's Monza 4-door, 51,000 original miles...) n"}
{"text": "### Human: ASCII in serial port of SoftLogix 5800? hello, I need help in the following problem, I have to communicate a CompactLogix under the ASCII protocol for its port 232, I do not have the CompactLogix. I need to know if I can test the configuration and programming of messages with the SoftLogix. I would greatly appreciate an example of how. thank you very much, Juan de Argentina ### Assistant: Juan; a knowbase doc 38642 indicates you can use a 9300-usbs to go usb port to serial on the 5800... then test msgs with hyperterminal on another comp to the usbs.. SoftLogix 5800 could be configured to use the Serial port of the PC as ASCII protocol.See the User Manual chapter 6. Just remember there is the needs to configure the SoftLogix5800 serial com port at the time the module is inserted. 1. From the chassis monitor, select Slot -> Create Module or right click the appropriate slot and select Create. Select the controller. 2. Specify the backplane slot number 3. Specify configuration settings for the controller. On the second window, select the Com port for serial communications. After that, you've the same as a true Logix PLC, and you may test your ASCII communication connecting another PC to the one with SoftLogix5800 using a 1756-CP3 cable, and configuring Hyperterminal to read and write ASCII... there is a good example I've used many times inside Aid 48429 It is a TechConnect Users reserved document, if you've trouble to access it, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address and I'll send you back some infos.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panel Builder 32 Cant load the External Font Server error when opening an PVA Panel Builder works on all applications I've used until attempting to open a new file from a vendor. Repeatedly get an error stating Cant load the External Font Server.The file opens fine on vendor's computer, but on the 2 we have, the error repeats. Have reloaded Panelbuilder 3.82.0 several times with no change.Any suggestions?Thanks,MJM ### Assistant: This is a normal behavior, the application was created using an external font (.otf) file that is on the memory card of the Panelview. This (.otf) file needs to be copied into the c:Program FilesAllen-BradleyPanelbuilder32Fonts directory. If you do not have the (.otf) file then you will not be able to open the pva document. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSViewMe 4.0 Tag Activation I have created new tags for pushbuttons. They test OK when creating my updated program. When I install the new file from my Compact Flash (2711P-RCH)an error message is displayed for the new tags; The Tag ??????? has not been Activated. I replaced communications when loading the new file.What's next? ### Assistant: Please add some informations: Which kind of tag is it ? Direct or HMI ? Memory ?Did you test either the display or the application from the PC communicating to the PLC ?Which is the PLC you're using ? Which network ?What about the other tags ? Are they displaied correctly with the value of PLC tag ? The more effort you put in explaining your issue, the more help you may expect to receive from Forum users... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk SE Application Manager I wanted to restore a backup of an FT View SE local application that I had created the day before. Of course, app manager want let you restore an app with the same name unless you rename it or delete the existing app. When I try to delete it, I get a message that it is in use and can't be deleted. I get the same message if I try to rename it. Dialog says to check for sufficient disk space (plenty), that the app isn't open somewhere else(stand alone node), that the destination application doesn't exist (it doesn't) and the HMIServer could not be located. I've rebooted my machine several times to no avail. I'm using RSLinx Enterprise as the device server with Alarms & Events enabled. Tried shutting it and SQL Server Express down, too, but that hasn't helped either. Boss is threatening to move me into management if I can't solve this problem soon... ### Assistant: Try to see if Aid 50130 could help you with your boss... :smileywink: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for the prompt and accurate response. And for staving off the downward spiral into management. You're welcome ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PV600 Numeric Entry timeout I have just installed a PanelView 600 that communicates with a PLC 5/15 via DH+. One of the screens on the new PV contains a numeric entry object. I use the notify bit from this object to examine the numeric entry write tag data then change the screen number on the PV via writing a value to the screen control tag. The notify bit also sets the numeric entry handshake bit going back to the PV. There have been several occasions where I would enter a number but would get a timeout error message across the PV screen. (Sorry, I don't recall the error message number, but it is a PV error window, not an alarm banner). The funny thing is that the screen would change as the message box appeared, indicating that the PV read the screen control tag from the PLC an acted accordingly. At other times, the timeout error would not appear and everything worked as expected, so I know the handshake bit is working. The DH+ network also contains two SLC 5/04s and another PV600. The other PV talks exclusively to one of the SLCs. We're using 57.6kbaud rate and we're well under the maximum blue hose length. The PV program only contains about 20 tags, so there's no glut of data out on the network. I have a terminating resistor on the PV, since it's at one end of the network. I could not confirm the presence or absence of a resistor on the other end - I didn't think about it until after I left the site. I did change the PV timeout setpoint from 4 to 6 seconds, but the error still occurred occasionally. What could be causing this timeout issue? Thanks in advance for your help. Ron ### Assistant: Probably the error is the 308, as it is related to the Handshake timeout... the only way to avoid this is to let the controller has enough time to send the Handshake bit to the PV... Did you keep this bit (handshake) ON inside the controller until the notification bit return back to 0 ?Did you verify what happen inside the controller when you get the error message? which are the states of the Notification and Handshake bit ?Try to change the Timeout to higher value, be sure to have the Use downloaded configuration settings selected on the Power-Up tab of the Application Settings dialog.After these checks, I think you have to verify the connections, termination resistors, shield and possible noise on the cable.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy, Good thoughts there. My answers below are in blue Did you keep this bit (handshake) ON inside the controller until the notification bit return back to 0 ? YesDid you verify what happen inside the controller when you get the error message? which are the states of the Notification and Handshake bit ? The Notify & Handshake bits both reset to 0. The Write tag value is read by the PLC since the Screen Control Tag changes to the appropriate value, the PV screen changes, then once the Screen Status tag value equals the Screen Control tag, the Screen Control tag clears. All of this is as expected, except for the timeout message.Try to change the Timeout to higher value, be sure to have the Use downloaded configuration settings selected on the Power-Up tab of the Application Settings dialog. That box is checked. I thought about setting the timeout higher, but six seconds seems long to begin with compared to previous applications I've done and the amount of traffic on the network. Don't you agree?After these checks, I think you have to verify the connections, termination resistors, shield and possible noise on the cable.... You are confirming my fears. I have no clue who ran the blue hose in the existing network and didn't have access to the other panels while on site. I'll have to follow up on this.Regards,Ron n"}
{"text": "### Human: error 717-80030003 the path %1 could not be found in rslogix 5000 Has any one ever gotten this message when using RSLogix 5000 Pro?and opening a *.ACD project file? I'm running Windows 2000 and logged on as an administrator. Versions 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 are all installed on this computer. I used to be able to read all these files but since Version 17 was installed I can only read Version 17 Stuff. Any help would be appreciated. ### Assistant: I'm aware this could happen when you've not the needed version to open that file, installed on PC... it is not so good because a warning about the need to install the correct version should be there, instead the strange error message. :smileysad: Your situation is different, you wrote you've many versions installed on the PC... are you sure you've also the one for that file to open ? Did you try to open a sample program (there are many on installation cd of every version)of a version different than 17 ? Same error ? - fuzzy logic I had to re-install Versions 10 through 13 and everything worked fine after that. Thanks for the Info. n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT ME 5.00 runtime blocks PC on startup Hi,I have a PC running FT ME runtime. Everything works fine but when I try to autostart a project the PC shows a message on each boot saying Server busy. The action cannot be completed because the other programmis busy... When I click on switch to the start menu will pop up for a second and then my application is loaded. I have tried several things and installed the latest patches but none of this works. Stephan ### Assistant: It is a known issue... something related to the services that need to be started to let ME start... You just need to delay the auto start of ME station using either Desklock(see Aid 38802 - Aid 32496) or using a batch file (run the batch file with windows startup, then it will launch ME application after a while - last time I use 25 seconds delay...) There are many sources in the web about a batch file command to delay startup of a program... here an example... LINK There are also freeware or shareware programs that do this... Usually I use SLEEP.EXE Aid 9636LINK Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Specifically, Windows isn't smart enough to wait on launching autorun apps. It's still cranking away, getting it's stuff running when it also tries to run ME (yes, this multi-threaded bootup approach speeds up the Windows boot up process, I realize). Since the background processes that ME depends on aren't running yet, the ME startup fails. fuzzy's note about using Desklock is the answer I've heard most often. JHutch Oddly enough, this problem is not present if you run windows 7; you can start ME station as soon as Windows loads without incurring a server busy error. Also, the runtime starts up considerably faster than on XP, but this may be as a result of windows 7 running faster than XP on the SSD we are using. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Is there any way of displaying real time pictures (such as images from a vision system) in ME or SE? I am not terribly familiar with either ME or SE, but I can't find anything which even talks about displaying an image that is not embedded into the software. The images would be pictures and not video, and can be in any image format necessary, i.e.. jpg, bmp, tiff, etc. The intent is if a part fails a QC inspection then the image of the failed part could appear on the screen. As this is a project quote I don't have a lot of hardware specifics, just wondering if it is at all possible. Thanks. ### Assistant: Hi, try to take a look to Aid 43544... you may try to obtain what you need using some VBA code as explained.... (View SE) Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic So the plan would be to have an image that has visibility animation applied? So when a condition is triggered in the controller or a tag in the HMI Tag DB, the image would appear? This is relatively common. You can import a graphic in SE directly on to a screen. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've understood the image should be dynamic, not loaded inside the project...it comes from a vision system in the event of a failure... it is not a matter of visibility... :smileysurprised: Isn't it, ET ? - fuzzy logic Correct, the image would be something the camera had just taken a picture of and inspected. If it fails, we want to display it on the screen. I will look at the technote referenced earlier and see if it answers my questions. Thanks all for the quick reply. I have done this using a web browser to show the saved images from a camers in explorer view. You scroll through the thumbnail view of the pictures and then click on any of these thumbnails to open the image full-screen.There is a browser activeX component for ME Station (win32) but not for the panelview plus CE. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Getting Joystick Data into RSView Hi all, I have a plug-and-play joystick (namely, this product: http://www.3dconnexion.com/3dmouse/spacenavigator.php) connected to my VersaView HMI and I would like to read data about the position of its 8 axes into my RSView Studio application. Any suggestions as to how I might do that, using ActiveX or otherwise? When I connect the joystick to my Windows Vista box, I can see the values/coordinates of all axes in the Game Controllers feature of the Control Panel. Any chance I might be able to pull that axis data out of the Windows CE memory somehow? Thanks :) ### Assistant: The CE based OS in the PV+ doesn't have the built-in game controller functionality. So, yeah, only way you might be able to do it: basically roll your own joystick driver via an ActiveX. And I know have a clue where you'd find the information you'd need to write one. Maybe try contact the joystick maker for more information? Good luck,JHutch Where do you get 8 axis? I looked up the link and it looks like a nice toy. It is even tied to a very reputable company, Logitech. Maybe it is just a typo and should be 6 axis. That is what the web site says. Are you after a mouse emulator or something more sophisticated where numbers will be sent down to the PLC? If it is just a mouse emulator I would not be surprised if they have one on a use at your own risk basis for Windows CE. There are lots of tools that make building an ActiveX fairly easy some even targeted to joysticks. It also looks like they have a SDK. Even with limited programming skills it should not take you more than a month to make what you need. With good skills you might knock it off in 2 or 3 days. ActiveX is fun to work with especially if you have a good tool kit or model to work from. You may be able to use the Kepware uconn driver that comes with the PanelView. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Controllogix 5000 Memory Dump - Utility to upload Dump file How or where is it possible to obtain this Utility. We have a Controllogix 5000 that has dumped it's Memory 2 times in 4 weeks. Would like to get the dump file created up off of the CPU to allow the cause be determined (if possible). Thanks in advance. ### Assistant: Follow the following link, there are the Fault Dump Utility and the User Manual. http://www.software.rockwell.com/support/download/detail.cfm?ID=3491 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic A really important thing to remember is to resist the urge to cycle power. If you do, then you will lose the dump file.Good luck.TJ In my experience, you do not lose the Dump File when you cycle power; the only way to erase it is to pull the battery and cycle power, or to flash the controller firmware. You'll lose the controller's internal Fault Code if you cycle power, but that usually just points to an unknown error and indicates you need to upload the Dump File. On the L6x controllers with v17 and I think with v16, the OS crash log gets written to CompactFlash, too. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 700 Error 75 I have a control panel that contains 2 Powerflex 700 Drives. Drive 1 we will call Rotation Drive, Drive 2 we will call Lifter Drive. The drives are communicating through a 20-COMM-D Adapter Card on devicenet of 14 nodes. Occasionally, say once every 8 hours, the Lifter Drive would freeze up with a fault ### Assistant: Inside the Forum there are many topics about this error... try first to search the drives Board using 75 as keyword... it could be related to noise problem...try to take a look to the following topic and indicated suggestions: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Drives/message-id/921#M921 About ferrite cores, see the Installation Instructions ... this document is for PF700s, but is similar for PF700 VC. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Uploading a PV Plus using Factory Talk View ME Have a PV 600 plus with an operating program running in plant, but do not have the Program on computer to modify or back up. Contractor built the PV screens, now out of business, no way of getting original program. Is there a way to work backwards and upload and create a file to have on plant network so when this fails, I have a copy to download or modify if needed? ### Assistant: Version 4.0 Machine Edition The .MER file (Machine Edition Runtime) file can be uploaded from a PanelView Plus terminal using the Transfer Utility. Please note that the .MER is a compiled version of the original project and is not editable in version 4.0 (or less). In order to make changes to the 4.0 project, you must have a backup file (.apa) of your project. Version 5.0 (and greater) Machine Edition Version 5.0 of Machine Edition has the option to restore the runtime file. This option is set at creation of the v5.0 runtime file (.mer). When a developer creates an MER 5.0 file he has the ability to include the data, password protect it, or never allow conversion. The file is restored by uploading from the PanelView Plus/Plus CE and running Application Manager to restore to an editable application. So, it depends by the version of the .mer file in the PVP, and if it is version 5.0 and greater, conversion could be possible if the file has not been password protected or configured to never allow conversion. There is a possible procedure to still convert a v4.0 (or less) .mer file (or part of it) and it is explained inside Aid 8913. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the information, will check on rev levels and go from there. Scared it is a very old version, but might get lucky.:smileyhappy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSLInk can not locate the new SLC Controller The controller for our DG8 FFM SLC is 1747-L541C 5/04 CPU-16K Mem. OS401 Series C FRN 3-8 and it can be found by RSLink Classic Gateway 2.53.00.05 with autobrowse as shown in attached picture DG8 FFM SLC Link.gif. On DG6 FFM SLC, the controller was replaced as 1747-L542C 5/04 CPU-32K Mem. OS401 Series C FRN 10 and later. The communication between the new controller and RSLogix 5000 is OK. However, the new controller could not be found by RSLink. Only 1756-DHRIO/B can be found but could not be expanded to locate the controller as shown in attached picture DG6 FFM SLC Link.gif. What was happening and how to locate the new controller from RSLink? ### Assistant: Attach another picture. Hi cfhung.... as I can see in your DG6 attached image, the 1756-DHRIO is not series B but series E... I guess your RSLinx version cannot *see* devices under it because of a missed EDS file.... try first to download the needed EDS file (I've attached it to this post) and install it using the EDS Hardware Installation Tool you may find in Start - Programs - Rockwell Software - RSLinx - Tools... Shut down all SW including RSLINX as a service from the computers system tray.Install the EDS sheet by selecting it when launching the EDS Hardware Installation ToolRestart RSLINX and problem should be fixed.Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Thanks for the information. I will install the file you provided. After that I will give you the report. Here is the report. Before installation of EDS file, 01,1756 module, 1756-DHRIO/E could not be expended, as shown in attached picture 01.gif. After installation of EDS file, 01,1756 module, 1756-DHRIO/E was disappeared as shown in attached picture 09.gif. What was happened? Another picture. Please confirm you've followed the indicated steps correctly when you've installed EDS file... then try first to Selecting 'Remove' from the right-click pop-up menu over your PCIC driver inside RSWho window. After removing the display of the Shortcut, click on the Workstation at the very top of the left pane in RSWho. The Shortcut will reappear, try to browse again for your module... After that,if the module still doesn't appear, two main ideas: 1. Delete Harmony files (Aid 48241)2. Upgrade RSlinx Classic to last version (2.56) to have a fresh EDS and registers install. - fuzzy logic Oops, I forgot to stop and restart RSLinx. The problem was solved after restart of RSLinx. Great thanks.:smileyvery-happy: n"}
{"text": "### Human: Alarm Event OPC for IMAC Sentinel Hello, Does anybody ever had experienced on alarm management of CLX using IMAC Sentinel?I have customer using numeorus of CLX, however their standard of Alarm Management is using IMAC Sentinel. We have idea using FT Alarm&Event, however FT AE can't functioned as an AE OPC for IMAC.Please inform if you have any experience with 3rd party product for solution above. Thanks. regards,Hendru Han ### Assistant: I can't say that I have ever heard of IMAC Sentinel. But since it uses OPC, it cannot directly connect to to a FactoryTalk server. Here's a possibility that might work for you: if you install FactoryTalk Gateway, this will allow IMAC to communicate through FT Gateway to any data server in your FactoryTalk application. That still will not allow you to subscribe to FTAE alarms, as far as I know. But in your SE application, you could set some memory tags when FTAE alarms occur and IMAC could monitor those through FT Gateway. This would require using FTAE alarm functions in an event detector or derived tag to read the alarm status and set the memory tag. Be warned that the more of these functions you use, the longer it will take to load your SE application. It's not a clean solution, but the only one I see. Hope that helps. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Translate PLC/SLC option in RSLogix 5000 I've run this just fine and now have several PCE instructions that I'm trying to fix. Problem is that it gives you a Error/Warning Message ID but I can't find anywhere that references what that means. Right clicking on the PCE and going to 'instruction help' gives me 'Topic does not exist. Contact your vendor for an updated help file.' Under the general help in RSLogix 5000 I find this: 'See the RSLogix 5000 Translation tool help for details about the conversion.' but I have no clue where this mysterious help file is found. Anyone have any ideas? ### Assistant: Hello, You will find PCE instructions after a SLC/PLC migration. It can be something that the convertion program can't do it by itself so you have to modify the Logix program.Or it is just a mark to let you check the convertion result. Regards. grs, I clicked the Help button in the translation tool itself, and I got the message that L5KXLATE.HLP was missing, did I want to find it myself? SURE! The software is looking in the folder with all the other Help files, but the L5KXLATE.HLP file is in the wrong folder. It gets installed to C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000ENUV17Bin I found it by searching the entire C: drive with Windows Explorer - Search. If you find L5KXLATE.HLP using Windows Explorer, just double-click to open it up. Better yet, copy the file to the folder C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000ENUV17Help I don't know if it has the info you're looking for, but that's where the help file is. Fuzzy, if you're reading this, might want to enter an anomaly report that the translator tool help file is installed in the wrong folder in V16 and V17. In V12, V13 and V15, it's installed into the right folder (e.g., ENUV15Help). But in V16 and V17 it gets installed into ENUV1xBin. If I copy the file to ENUV16Help or ENUV17Help, the Help button in the translator tool works OK. (Now, if grs can't find the info he needs in the Help, I'm sure he'll get back to you with another anomaly to enter for that !!! ) Dale, W8ABZ grs: If you're not familiar with the old Pogo comic strip (Walt Kelly), check back in old Pogo books for what fish say to each other. Dale, you're right, I've just verified the same issue.... :smileysad: I will try to pass this through. Thanks, - fuzzy logic I've forwarded this on to the ControlLogix group. Thanks, JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Addressing format The addressing format for ControlLogic I/O is Remote:s: O.Data.b where Remote=the name of communication adapter in remote chassis, s=slot number and b=bit number.Why the addressing format for Flex I/O in RSlogix 5000 become Remote: O.Data[s].b? ### Assistant: cfhung, Probably because the Flex adapter consolidates the I/O into a single connection to the adapter, with one Input data block and one Output data block for the rail, whereas the ControlLogix I/O (1756) uses a separate connection (and so separate tag) for each card. If you create a remote rack for 1756 and use a Rack Optimized connection, you'll actually see BOTH -- there is the tag for the full rack of (discrete) input data and (discrete) output data (the Rack-Optimized connection data), plus a set of alias tags for the individual slots (so it LOOKS just like the local I/O). Basically, the Tags line up with the actual type of Connection(s) to the I/O: as a slot/module (for 1756 analogs and specialty I/O, and for discretes connected to individually) or as a rack (for a Flex rail or for a Rack-Optimized 1756 remote). Hope this helps! I could draw a nice picture of it, but it would take an hour and I'm going home in a few minutes!!! Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: PID TUNNING CAN ANY ONE EXPLAIN ME HOW TO TUNE THE PID.PROCEDURE TO TUNE THE PID. ### Assistant: knowbase doc 47606 SLC/ML Instruction Set Reference Manual (Pub 1747-6.15 January 1998) PID Tuning Example it is an involved procedure... there are also automatic pid tuning software like RSTune. No documents found. LOGIC_FUNDA, cfhung and all, May I suggest Good Tuning: a pocket guide by G. K. McMillan, or Controller Tuning and Control Loop Performance (2nd Ed.) by David W. St. Clair, both available from the Books (or Publications?) page at http://www.isa.org/ The particular values of tuning parameters will depend on whether you have selected Independent Gains or not for your PID or PIDE instruction. Also, be careful of units of measure. The following paragraphs discuss these issues. Allen-Bradley PID instructions usually default to Proportional Gain (Kp), which is a unitless multiplier (1.0 is unity gain), whereas many DCSs use Proportional Band (PB), the percentage the input must change to result in a 100% change in output. The two are directly related as follows: PB = 100.0 / Kp So a Proportional Band of 50 means a 50% change in input generates a 100% change in output, or a gain of 2.0. Also watch the units on Integral and Derivative. Many DCSs use an integral time or integral gain in units of Minutes per Repeat or Repeats per Minute. Ki in A-B controllers is often in units of 1/sec. Many DCSs use a derivative time / gain in minutes; the PID defaults to seconds. Allen-Bradley PID and PIDE default to Independent Gains: Output = Kp * e + Ki * (integral of e) + Kd * (de/dt) whereas most DCSs have the Proportional Gain (Proportional Band) apply to all three terms: Output = 100/PB * ( e + 1/Ti * (integral of e) + Td * (de/dt) ) Note that 100/PB (gain) multiplies all three terms. Notice how I used 1/Ti in place of Ki. As for a basic procedure:1. Set derivative gain to zero, set integral gain to a minimal non-zero value. Set proportional gain to a low value.2. Put the loop manual, adjust the output to get the PV to some reasonable value (manual control)3. Put the loop in auto, make a step change in SP (not enough to damage equipment or people, but enough to require control action).4. Trend the CV, PV, SP. The process will very likely not oscillate and will take very long to come to setpoint.5. Double the proportional gain and make another step change in SP (perhaps back where you came from). Watch the trend.6. Keep doing number 5 until the process just goes into oscillation. This gives you the ultimate gain. Note the period of oscillation. This gives you the ultimate period. These numbers can be plugged into a number of rules (look up Ziegler-Nichols on Google) to give you Kp, Ki and Kd. or7. Cut Kp in half and start increasing Ki until you get reasonable response without oscillation. For all but slow capacity (temperature) loops, you don't need derivative. If you think you need derivative, get a tuning tool or see the books above. There are many other books on loop tuning, and I'm sure many publicly-available web articles. If you're using PIDE on Logix and you have the Professional edition software or the proper add-on license, use the AUTOTUNE tag on the PIDE to do the work for you! Just keep an eye on the process and kick things to manual at a safe output if stuff start to get out of hand. Be safe. I tend to use conservative tuning to avoid overshoot -- it's often fast enough. Some processes need to be tuned with a little more oomph. If you're tuning manually and not using AUTOTUNE or tuning software, make sure you're trending SP, CV and PV and save your trends so you can review after the fact. (Probably good to do even if you ARE using auto tuning!) Get a good book on loop tuning and go through it a couple times, and compare your trends to the charts in the book. It'll help you decide which parameters to adjust in which direction. Be aware that tuning can change with process loading (flow rates, production rates) or even ambient conditions. That's why I tend to tune a little conservatively -- in case the process gain (or deadtime) goes up with changes over time. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compaclogix L32 When we get brand new this plc and connect the straight/cross cable between the plc and pc, should the lnk light get on or not? Because there is no link light and we donot get the mac address in bootp utility. Is it necessary to go thru first serial port to configure? ragni ### Assistant: Normally, the LNK led should be on when a powered Ethernet device is connected to the PLC port... direct connection from the PC to the PLC should be realized using a cross Ethernet cable.Check the cable, and, most important, verify your PC has a valid IP address assigned (Static) maybe it is configured to get IP address from a DHCP server.... It is not necessary to go through serial port to download the firmware, if the PLC is new out-of-the-box, BOOTP and then Ethernet/IP communication is the best choice to download the firmware.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic When I connected plc port to pc thru cross cable there is no lnk light but however when i connect thru switch with straight, the lnk light comes on. In that case, bootp will work only when it connected thru switch. Is that so ? Another confusing thing is that if the program is in logix 16.0 version then the plc has to be in 16.0 firmware or 17.0 version also will work as it is supposed to be higher version. When you say firmware for plc, does it refers to logix version or something else. Normally it will work with just a direct cross cable between CompactLogix and computer. I should verify your static address of the computer. The version of the program AND the firmware version of the controller MUST be the same. If the major revision does not match, you won't be able to download the program. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1769-OW16 Problem in RIO Connection Dear Messes, Here is my problem when using 1769-OW16 in RIO connection. In my RIO connection, I had 3 10-SLot Remote Rack with one ASB at 1st rack. Others 2 rack was connected with interconnecting cable. The first 2 rack was assigned with 7 & 8 no's. 1769-IB16 with 2 spare slot at the end of each rack. At the third rack, 4 1769-OW16 was installed with 2 1769-NI8 installed on no. 7 & 8 slot. When I carried out factory test, all input modules works fine except 4 1769-OW16 cards. They had not response to my ladder logic. So I make some changes in my IO card arrangement and get result as below:Solution 1:Put 2 1769-OW16 to spare slot at 1st rack and 2 1769-OW16 to spare slot at 2nd rack.Result:The 1769-OW16 on 1st rack do have response and works fine. However, the 2 1769-OW16 on 2nd rack did not response to ladder and still not works. Solution 2:In rack 2, I move 2 1769-OW16 one slot left hand side with 1 1769-IB16 at the end. That means my config now is 7 1769-IB16 follow by 2 1769-OW16 and then 1 1769-IB16Result:The 1769-OW16 cards still not works. Then I guess is the card hardware error?? Go to solution 3. Solution 3:I swap those 1769-OW16 cards between 1st rack and 2nd rack. Those card swap from rack 2 to rack 1 works fine but those at rack 2 still not works. Is there any RIO config I had to take extra care?? Would anyone can help me and is the problem of 1769-OW16 card firmware version?? If anyone experienced before, please kindly share your experiences with us. Best Rgds.,Man ### Assistant: UH ?! :smileysurprised: 1769-OW16 in RIO? I guess you're wrong about the catalog number used....Are you talking about 1746-OW16 (SLC-500 hardware) ? Are you using a 1747-SN with a 1747-ASB as RIO adapter ? Please, add some screenshots about the SN configuration, and post the setting of your ASB, so that the information is more complete. Are other devices on that RIO network ? Which are the Power Supplies are you using on that remote chassis? - fuzzy logic Yes, I had typing mistake of 1746-OW16 instead of 1769!!!:smileyvery-happy: The modified Test Config The Original Redundancy RIO Config Please help me and give me some hints.:smileytongue: Best Rgds.,Man Ok Man, please, add some screenshots about the BSN configuration (RSLogix500), and post the settings of your ASB (dip-switches), so that the information is more complete.Are other devices on that RIO network ?Which are the Power Supplies are you using on that remote chassis? - fuzzy logic It seems VERY likely that you do not have the additional slots configured in your RSLogix 500 program. Post the *.RSS file or screenshots of the G-File configuration for the 1747-SN. It would also be very helpful if you can post the DIP switch settings for the 1747-ASB adapter in the first remote rack. Since those hardware was supplied by Main Contractor and some config was also changed, then I believe the Power Supply is 1746-P4 as per visual check on-site. The RIO hardware Dip Switch configuration:1747-BSN:010001 0000 1747-ASB: 11111111 01110001 01101011 Also the RSLogix500 Config are as below as below: I had another case and those card quantity are more than there!! They are all 16point input & output card.Picture as show as below: Man, the dip switches and the G-file seem correctly configured. :smileysurprised: Just ASB switch 2-3 should be OFF, as you don't use complementary chassis. Are you sure the interconnection cable is ok and connected ?May you try to put 4 input modules in the last chassis and see if they work ?May you please post the address you use trying to set OW16 outputs inside last rack ? (O:1.xx/x)May you also post the ASB display indication and the BSN / ASB led status when PLC is in Run mode ? - fuzzy logic I just map all discrete data into N12 data file and my ladder logic will drive those output bit on word N12:7, N12:8, N12:16 & N12:17 to drive the output card at O:1.7 , O:1.8, O:1.16 & O:1.18 respectively. By the way, ASB works fine with 'RUN' display and two BSN works fine and can perform takeover process and changeover seamlessly, just acts perfect! (The O:1.18 must be O:1.17 since I can't edit it in edit page, it was obstructed by the LHS menu bar!!!) Here is my part of ladder logic. Hmmmm, still something not so clear.... However, if you are in the first picture situation (2x OW16 in the last two slots of chassis 1 and 2x OW16 in the last 2 slots of chassis 2) then the correct output addresses should be: O:1.7/xx O:1.8/xx O:1.17/xx O:1.18/xx If you are in the second picture situation (4x OW16 in the first four slots of chassis 3) then the correct output addresses should be: O:1.19/xx O:1.20/xx O:1.21/xx O:1.22/xx Please verify to use the correct addresses trying the modules outputs. Try to force outputs from Force Table instead of in the program...Keep also a look to the first tab in the BSN Adavanced I/O configuration (double click on the module in the I/O config.)...scanned Input and Output words should be both set to 32. - fuzzy logic Thanks very much for your remind. I think I figure out somthing from your hints and it would be a very foolish minor mistake I mis-look with!!Let me modified my logic and try test again, get back to you once I got the result!!! Haha!!! Best Rgds.,Man:smileywink: Problem was solved. Thanks very much indeed!!!:smileyvery-happy: You're welcome ! I'm happy you've solved ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Dirty Screens Hello Forum World, We have a problem here, that I am sure has happened all over the place, Our PV's get so dirty from stuff on the operators hand that it is making it hard to touch the screen and have it work correctly. Does anyone know of anything that we can clean these with, that will remove all the stuff on the screen and not damage it in the process. Thanks ### Assistant: Is this a PanelView Plus? If so, per the Users Manual, it's OK to use mild soap or detergent. See page 223: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/2711p-um001_-en-p.pdf Some are PV+'s some are PV 550 PV 900 PV1000 we have just about everything here. Technote ID22501 explains what to use on the older PanelView screens. Hope this helps. Ron The only thing I've ever seen damage a PanelView screen is graffiti remover; it melted the plastic. I've used toluene and acetone and not had trouble. Use the least harsh thing you think will get off your particular brand of grime. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to upload the GA Basic program form 1775-GA without 1770-T4 terminal? How to upload the GA Basic program form 1775-GA without 1770-T4 terminal? if anybody knew it, pls give me some advice. i really appreciate your help.Thanks!Frank Lin ### Assistant: Frank, If you have an open serial port, or a port used for a terminal, hook up a PC with a serial port, and start a Hyperterminal session. Set it up with no modem, just the comm port, and use whatever baud rate the port is set for (19,200 works nicely). Let's say I want to capture the code for a GA procedure called Procname. In Hyperterminal, in the Transfer menu, select Capture Text and enter a folder and filename, like C:MyGAcodeprocname.txt. Now get the command prompt for the GA and type P @Procname. The GA echoes the code for procedure Procname to the terminal, and Hyperterminal captures it. Now stop the capture to close the file. Open the file with Notepad and clean up the echoed command, prompts, etc. I forget if the GA prints line numbers when you print a program. If so, you can remove those with Notepad, if you ever want to load it back in, or keep them, if you are using the listing for documentation. Use the DIR command to get the list of GA procedures. See Chapter 11 of the 1775-GA User Manual: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/1775-um004_-en-p.pdf Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Sharing Violation while installing patch R163754079 I am running the patch found in Answer - 36311 for FactoryTalk Automation Platform 2.00 Patch for CommandClientSrv not releasing handles. In the cmd prompt I get a message at the end saying If you did not see a message 'Sharing Violation' above then the update was successful'. What do I do if I did get that message? ### Assistant: That just means that some process was not able to be shut down and is still holding open one of the files you are trying to patch. The first thing I would try is rebooting. If that failed, I would stop any HMI servers from automatically starting by renaming C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersShared DocumentsRSView EnterpriseSEHMI ProjectsSLHMISERVERS.XML to SLHMISERVERS.BAK and then rebooting. If the patch is successful, you can rename it back to SLHMISERVERS.XML afterwards. Hopefully one of those suggestions will work for you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Network Printing from PV+ I've been able to successfully print from a PV+ to a network printer on a network with a Windows Domain Controller. According to KB 34133 you must have a DNS on the network for this to work. Most small industrial Ethernet networks are isolated from the corporate network and as a result don't have a Windows Server box for a DC or DNS. Just curious if anyone has been successful in printing to a network printer from a PV+ in an environment w/o a Windows Server box?Regards,Charlie Vincent ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 1000 Message Display Shows error even if tag value = message state value I've got an old Panelview 1000 connected to a SLC505 via DF1 through a Prosoft serial card; I added a Message Display but it will only show error when the object tag value = plc integer value. I haven't seen this problem before. Any thoughts? The other objects in the Panelview are character arrays or value displays and work fine. I don't see why the text list states would be any different. ### Assistant: What is the address syntax, exactly ? I'd have to see the configuration of the object in PanelBuilder32 and the Tag database configuration to make a comment. Whenever I have a multistate indicator or list indicator not working the way I expect, I throw a Numeric Display onto the screen so that I can see the raw value of a database tag from the PanelView's perspective. Do you have two object tag values the same? This will cause the error to display. I have 2 message displays that I added, and both are doing the same thing. The object tags for each are N19:190 and N19:191 and set up as unsigned integer. I don't see it used anywhere else in the tag database or plc program. The N19 file is being copied to the Prosoft card from word N19:100 to N19:200 in one block write of length 100, so it should be getting sent. The message display shows the proper text for the 0 state until it changes value to non-zero then it shows error from then on. The numeric message display method is a good idea. I will try it. I didn't think of that. I know it is a dumb question but: did you set the Message Display Read type inside the Properties tab to Value insted of the default selected Single Bit ? Did you get the same error with all different values from PLC ( I mean all what is different than 0) ?Did you try as suggested by Ken Roach to configure a Numeric display near the MSG display to see the raw value from PLC ? Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Showing the data display on the PV helped me see that I was getting what was expected from the PLC. I did have 2 text list values that were the same. Dumb mistake! n"}
{"text": "### Human: FT ME, PROBLEM WITH ALARM ANALOG TYPE TAG HELLO With my FT version 5.00 (cpr9), when I use an ALMA type tag in RSLgx 5000, I dont have a tag in tag browser.When I have an ALM tyep tag, it's OK. It's normal ? ### Assistant: Hello Alain, Yes, that's normal. With FactoryTalk Alarms and Events, you don't need to create tags. You just subscribe to any alarms that the controller has defined. It saves you the time of entering them twice - once in RSLogix 5000 and once in FTView. n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 500 connection with PIC I am running Windows XP and trying to connect to a SLC 500 via a 1747-PIC. I am unable to connect no matter what I try. The other guys at the plant are not sure whether or not this laptop has ever been connected to the SLC, and I was wondering if the PIC has an issue with Windows XP. This is the only thing I can think of. Can't find a newer driver for it anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions? ### Assistant: First we have to say the RSLinx PIC driver is supported on Win XP, except when the OS has the SP3 installed. PIC device is old technology that is no longer being developed.An alternative is to use a 1747-UIC instead, that is an USB to Serial (DH-485) converter. If you have not SP3 installed on your Win XP, then read the follow.... :smileysurprised: Unfortunately, I've seen many many PIC driver issues until now, and I can say it was very difficult to solve them (sometimes there was no way to have it run ).There are plenty of technotes about it... I would like to suggest some of them, which I've used in the past, sometimes with success. Aid 9839 - Aid 9772 - Aid 16442 - Aid 43852 Be aware you'll need a TechConnect Authorization to access these technotes... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic The PIC driver must be used on a real serial port (not a USB to RS232 convertor). I have used with Windows XP before, though not sure of the SP at the time.It is possible the SLC could be set to 9600 baud. When you configure the PIC driver, there is a baud rate option for 19200 or 9600.I suggest restarting the computer after configuring the PIC driver. The UIC works great, but can't do 9600 (had to assist someone with this once). n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to manage a Prosoft 3100 MCM by a control Logic L62. Hello, we have to change a PLC5/40E by a 1771 ACN15. The problem is that there's a Prosoft 3100 MCM inside our rack. Is there anyone who have already done it ? Do you have any sample code? Thanks ### Assistant: Hmmm... as far as I can remember, the 3100-MCM module should be installed in the Processor rack or in a Remote IO rack... I think it is not possible to use it over ControlNet.... edit: removed as per wrwessel suggestions below. - fuzzy logic No problems over CNet, did this a few years back after conversion from PLC5 to CLX.Just need to change your MSG instruction to access the Prosoft module on ControlNet, rest of the code can be the same.I used Block Transfer message types, point the communication path to the CNet module, and select ControlNet and slot in the Module address.Snapshot of my code attached or visit www.psft.com and look under InRax, platform PLC5, protocol modbus for a PLC5 sample code. Thanks for the remarks, never tested what you suggest ... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview Plus 1000 Ethernet Question Currently have a CompacLogix L32E and Panelview Plus 1000 communication serially. Would like to set up the Ethernet port on the Panelview Plus 1000 to tie into our network for maintenance of the program, i.e. uploading and downloading, changes remotely. The activation of the Ethernet port will not take place of the serial communication. Just looking for verification and guidance. Do I set up the ethernet port on the Panelview Plus using the Configuration Screen, Network Communications, where I assign it an IP address within our network settings? If the changes to the IP address are made locally at the screen, when uploading the .mer file locally/remotely will those changes to the IP address at the terminal be saved with the current runtime .mer file?Thanks! ### Assistant: In the Configuration Screen of a Panelview Plus, you have the possibility to configure the IP address your PVP will use on the network. This settings are not uploaded with the application file. In order to communicate from your PC to the PVP via Ethernet, you have to configure the Local Tab of RSLinx Enterprise in FactoryTalk View Studio.In order to communicate from your PLC to the PVP via Ethernet, you have to configure the Target Tab of RSLinx Enterprise in FactoryTalk View Studio. Actually those tabs are probably configured to use the serial port instead. Once you have assigned an IP address to your PVP and connected it to an ethernet network, I mean the same where your PC is connected, then you will be able to browse for it in the Local tab under the Ethernet driver....it should automatically appear. Please take a look to the FactoryTalk View Machine Edition Quick Start Videos at this LINK, some of them will give you all the infos to configure your hardware/software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the information!!! My response was delayed due to someone's emergency became my emergency! n"}
{"text": "### Human: SLC 500 no active nodes? Sudden failure I've got an old Heald grinder that's been set up with one of these. It's worked flawlessly for quite some time, we powered it up this morning and got a 'No active nodes found on the network' alarm. I'm rather confused as to what network it refers to, as this thing is ancient. Is this something anyone has encountered before and can you point me in the right direction as to where to start looking? I've got a decent pile of paperwork that came with this thing... Reams and reams of printouts and whatnot. I guess I'd just like to know what the heck went wrong. ### Assistant: Before I put this where it needs to be ... what kind of device is giving you that error message? That sounds like a PanelView error, but I could be wrong. JHutch I think JHutch is correct, the error could be on a Panelview screen... waiting for more details from the user who have started this thread, I guess there are some communication problems between the SLC and Panelview on DH-485; this is a typical configuration using a 5/03 SLC and a DH-485 Panelview... This could be due to a wrong or lost setting in either devices or a faulty cable connection... - fuzzy logic I am having a similar problem with my system.I have a PLC5 80E and a pannelview 1000 touch screen, (I think), and I just got the software and I connected to it yesterday.Now there is a message on the top of the panneview that says -[688 No Active Node Found On Network].The operator says he seen that yesterday after I connected and they ran all day today seemingly with no problems. My question is could I have changed anything, (baud rate, ...), even though I said no to save anything when I went offline? Could something that I did have changed setting when I connected? It's very unlikely to be a configuration or setting problem if it ran all day after you accessed it. What network does the PanelView use ? The full part number will indicate it; the last number is the network connection (1 for RIO, 8 for DH+, 2,3,5,9 for DH485, etc). No Active Nodes almost always indicates a disconnection from the network and no network traffic detected on the port. Required Nodes Not Found is different; there is network traffic, but no responses from the target PLCs. The communications LED will give you some status info; I'd have to look it up in the user manual but I think flashing green means network traffic is present and solid green means the PLC is responding to the PanelView. Is there anything else on this communications channel between the PLC-5/80 and the PanelView ? Its DH+ and the status indicators are saying everything is normal and working. Comm is solid green and fault is off. Nothing else is in the comm path to the pannelview. Everything seems to be working fine its just the message bar at the top of the pannelview is not visable because of this No node error message or whatever it is wont go away. I will do a power down and restart this weekend while the line is down and see if that may clear it up. n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 Project Driver None Loaded In a System constituting of PLC 5/80 with RSView32 HMI, once in a while, there is a situation where the Channel Configuration in the RSView Project, changes from AB_KT1 to NONE LOADED, on its own. So far no reason has been identified. ### Assistant: The computer is automatically starting both RSLinx and RSView32. When RSView32 starts, if RSLinx is not fully initialized, the channel configuration will revert to None Loaded. This only occurs when using a direct driver node since OPC and DDE nodes store this information in the topic. So you may consider the following: Use OPC or DDE nodes. In most applications, OPC will work as well if not better than direct driver nodes. If after converting to OPC or DDE communication problems develop, go to RSLinx-> DDE/OPC-> Topic Configuration, select the topic and go to the Data Collection tab. Start by checking Limit Maximum Packets and setting this value to 3 (matching the equivalent setting of a direct driver node).If you want to continue using direct driver nodes (perhaps to take advantage of scan classes), try starting RSLinx as a service. This may give it slightly more time to get ready for RSView32.[Reference Aid 42826] Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Panelview 1000 w/ CompactLogic L43 Required Training Hello All, I am new to Rockwell and starting a new position maintaining Panelview 1000 panels. I need to know what training is offered - Should attend. I Found very good documentation from the manuals website. But would love hands on training or Online training. Any suggestions? Best Regards. ### Assistant: HERE is the Training web site with many informations available but.... I suggest to get in touch with your Rockwell Automation representative to explain your needs and be helped to find the right solution for you; that is the best way. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1794-OE4 Messaging Using Copies not BTR or BTW Does anyone have sample code for the messaging to a 1794-OE4 that is connected to an older scanner as it does not support the BTR and BTW message blocks I have an analogue input on the flex but not a analogue out Cheers ### Assistant: There is something about that inside technote 17823... a Tech Connect Authorization is required to see that document... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Powerflex 400 reversing enabled We have a powerflex 400 controlling a cooling tower fan which has the reversing feature enabled and it works fine, when we put it into reverse we stop the fan put the external switch to the reverse position and start the fan then it ramps up to maintain temperature.my questions are:1. If it is running in forward in Auto and the external switch is put to reverse will the VFD ramp down to 0hz and then begin to ramp up.2. When it is in reverse at 0hz and the hand button is depressed it switches to forward, Will it operate in hand when it is running in reverse. Thanks ### Assistant: Here the answers: 1. YES2. Direction is Forward unless an external input is programmed for Cmd Reverse (T051-T054) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 22-COMM-E 1.007 Database error? I'm modifying a program that exists on a site and that I didn't create. When I click on a powerflex properties, I get the attached error. Note that this is referring to the COMM-E adapter, not the powerflex firmware. If you click on the 'Drive' tab of the Powerflex properties box, you get access to the drive parameters and the 22-COMM-E setup. Here it will tell you what it is 'Port: 1 Revision : 1.004' for example.Question is two fold:-Where can I get what ever I need to fix the 'database' error message that gets displayed (couldn't find a 1.007 EDS file for RSLinx).If I leave it as it is (defaulted back to 1.006), is this going to cause me grief when I try and download this when I get to the site (New Years day!) ### Assistant: Hmmmm... never seen this warning.... :smileysurprised: I've read the 1.007 release notes and thinking there aren't too relevant differences between this version and 1.006, so if you can go online with drive and Comm card, I think you'll not find problems.Looking at Drives Support web site, I can see there isn't an update available to the RS5000 Drive database for version 1.007 of the COMM-E... ..... so I may suggest to try to Create Drive Database using the procedure inside Aid 50684. Here isn't matter of EDS files, just the needed drive database version for the Premier Drive Integration isn't yet available inside your RS5000. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I'm going to give a Kudos simply on the time and effort thats gone into this reply - thanks. Don't know for sure if this will solve my problem till New Years day when I'm on site and on line. Quick question, is the AB web updates that you've shown for the powerflex public or private? If public can I have the link please? Also, it would seem sensible before any release of new firmwarefor AB to ensure that all required 'patches' are available for public download before the actual release of the firmware (I'm talking about the V1.007 database file here). Thanks for kudos on trust :smileytongue: Well, here the public useful link of Drive support... just select from there the device you're interested in:http://ab.com/support/abdrives/ Here the link to the COMM module firmware:http://ab.com/support/abdrives/webupdate/dsicomm.html Yes, I'm agree with your last *request*...many times this is also valid for EDS files... I may say one has many workarounds to get the needed infos and files (Technical Support, Rockwell Automation representative, Forums...) and also the possibility, as explained in previous post, to get the necessary directly from the device, but your observations are correct and should be considered by Drive Group... hope a moderator here will pass this through... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Just adding some informations: Tested your situation manually removing the database file I had on my PC for 22-COMM-E v1.007...I got the same warning as you, opening the offline file.Going online and during drive correlation, the new database automatically uploaded and now I can see the correct firmware revision also offline.Attached the database file you need (paste it in the folder together to the one named FW0010060084.ddb you already have on your PC)... anyway I've seen it is inside the 1.006 download in the previous indicated link. :smileysurprised:It would be preferabble if they should create a v1.007 separate link.... :smileymad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Appreciate your time and effort here - thanks. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to Configure a Flex Module 1794-IRT8 in a Remote flex rack I am trying to configure a Flex Module 1794-IRT8 in a Remote flex rack with Control Net communication on a Control Logix processor. In the Installation manual for the 1794-IRT8 talks about Write word 0,1,2 in my processor I only have config1, config2, config3, and I do not understand if this are the same configuration words and what Bits I need to trigger that would be for a 100 ohm 3 wire RTD, I also was wondering what the scale would be for the raw dada input. I think I got a little confuse with so many options. ### Assistant: The Configuration words named Config1,Config2 and Config3 are exactly the same as Words 0-1-2 you find inside the IRT8 User Manual.RS5000 has also the splitted bits inside its structure, so that is easier to understand. Anyway, the best way to configure the module is through its profile under the module properties, the tab named Input Configuration. The Data Format field gives you the possibility to select the desidered input range. See the attached files to better understand the above. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Steps for Configuring Redundant FT View SE Distributed Applications Dear All, Is there any document available in which steps regarding below points are defined for configuring the Redundant FT View SE Distributed Applications. 1) Local/Network Directory for Primary/Secondary Server.2) Check List.3) RS Linx Enterprise.4) FT Alarms and Events.5) FT HMI Alarms. Soumen HaldarRAIPL ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 32549... it may help :smileywink: - fuzzy logic i have gone through the document but that document describes the design consideration of FT View SE Distributed Application. Soumen HaldarRAIPL Yes, you're right, I was reading too quick your post.... :smileytongue: Please review Aid 37110, there is a summary of the available resources about View SE best practices. Many of those documents are available only if you have a TechConnect Authorization... if you haven't, please send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address and the desidered documents, I will send you back them. Take also a look to the User Guide for complete reference about View SE. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Just a quick note: FactoryTalk Alarms&Events cannot be used in a redundant HMI application at this time. :smileysurprised:[Reference Aid 44177] - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView Component Development Connection Problems I have a PVc 600 color( ### Assistant: I was in the same situation once, I just found that cleaning the Temporary Internet Files inside IE (Clear History for FF) solved the issue. :smileysurprised: Anyway, you may also try to use the Firmware Update Utility, but be aware, cleaning the file system removes all files, including user applications.Cleaning the registry only removes registry settings, such as the user's selected startup application but will not remove user applications from the terminal. See User Manual - App. D for instructions. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic This morning, out of desperation I tried using the firmware update utility option to clean the registry and that fixed the problem. After doing that the connection works flawlessly. Hopefully, it keeps working. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Troubles setting new PLC5 ethernet channel to Set 100MB I have an ethernet network using Hirschmann switches. I have had no problems setting the PLC5 ethernet to a Set 100 MB speed, along with the switch port. With the new revisions of PLC5 however, I have to use Auto negotiation on one of the devices, or they won't talk. The newest revision is A.2 I believe. These are the only PLC's I have trouble with. Has anyone else seen this? Tech support couldn't figure out why. ### Assistant: I was in a similar trouble once, found a technote explaining about auto sensing devices and the needed to use Auto Negotiation to be able to have them work. Really I don't know about PLC-5E series F port if it has auto sensing, but it seems very similar to the issue you have. The application required the communication rate of 100Mbps and Full duplex, but he was unable to configure the 1756-ENBT for Full duplex as 1756-ENBT autosenses the communication baud rate i.e. 10/100 Mbps full/half duplex and if the switch is hard set for full duplex and not 'autonegotiate', any autosensing device will then be configured for its default setting which in most cases (also true for 1756-ENBT) is half duplex. Cure: Reconfigure the switch for 'autonegotiate'. Confirm from the web page and that the 1756-ENBT is set to communicate at 100 Mbps and Full duplex. Prevention: Always select the autonegotiate option for a switch or router when using it with an auto sensing device. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: HIM Chinese Display Support in PowerFlex70/700 Does PowerFlex70/700 support Chinese display while using 20-HIM-A6 (Firmware V1.006, EN&CH version Flash)? ### Assistant: The text string the Enhanced HIM will display come from the host device (PF70/700) and in those drives the Chinese language isn’t yet supported.So, you’ll be able to select the Chinese language on your HIM, but you will only see its system texts in that language… all the other strings coming from the drive will be shown using its selected language. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk SE Extremely Slow Hi All,Working on getting displays created in FactoryTalk SE for replacement of a Honeywell Experion system. The static graphics and most global objects have been created on a couple of overview screens. I was having trouble at the end of last week with things not loading correctly and exported all the displays to XML, remove the gfx files from the server and reimport them to see if that helped resolve the issue. The FactoryTalk issues seem to have mostly been resolved but now things load uncharacteristically slow. When an overview screen is called up, it loads a navigation bar (4 buttons) a bottom Alarm Bar (FT A&E bar and a couple buttons) and the area overview. The first two take a couple seconds to load which seems long, but the overview screen takes about 25 seconds which is absurdly long. The machine is a VersaView 700R (3.0ghz P4, 3gb memory), with everything open and running it's about 93 processes using 850mb of memory and low CPU utilization. The screens loaded before very quickly. I have noticed that sometimes the Alarm Bar (a default object) hangs, just saying it's trying to connect to the FT A&E server. Additionally, when looking at the Error log in studio or in FT Administrative Console, I find the following error periodically, maybe every minute or soFailed to add item '[RSLinxLocation]::[Controller]Tag.SP.ProgOper' to Data Server 'RNA://$Global/[Application]/[HMI Server]/[RSLinx Path] on machine '[computer name]' ( result = 0xc0040007) Sorry, if it is difficult to read, I was trying to add as much information as possible.Thanks,Jordan [By the way, the setup is now is not the way it will be setup when we go live we'll have redundant dedicated servers, dedicated engineering stations and dedicated clients]. ### Assistant: I am not experienced enough with FTView SE troubleshooting to know what's making your application open slowly, but the error message you mention sounds like it is related to the redundant data servers. A similar error code is described in the Knowledgebase: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/34707 The gist of that document is that if you define your dataservers as redundant, but then you only configure one of them, then FactoryTalk will spin its wheels trying to get connected to the other unconfigured dataserver. How is FTA&E supposed to work these days with redundant RSLinx Enterprise Dataservers ? Has version 5.10 added this capability, so that the controller can point its ALM and ALMA instructions at the correct subscriber ? As far as I know, FTA&E cannot be used in a redundant HMI application at this moment. [Reference Aid 44177] The support for Redundant Servers inside FTA&E is planned to be released with next coming version 5.2 of View SE (up to two pairs of redundant servers)... be aware this is just a preliminary information I've seen inside a presentation, and thus could be subject to changes. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic My apologies, when the HMI servers are setup the redundancy will not be done through the Factory Talk application, a third party application (it's a Marathon Technologies product). This was explained to us by our AB dealer as the temporary solution for the FTA&E lack of redundancy. Just a point of clarification - View SE's next release will be 6.0, not 5.2. And it will include FT A&E Server redundancy. JJames,. I've had slow projects that I fixed by changing the Live Data policy from TCP/IP to DCOM. You configure this in Studio under System-> Policies-> System Policy-> Live Data Policy. Change this, reboot and see how it affects your performance. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Power Flex 700 started running in reverse Hello, I have a 700 Power flex with vector control that was running correctly. Power was dropped to the unit during clean up. When it was brought back online the motor ran in reverse. We checked the settings and it was still in Unipolar in Direction mode. I had to change the Direction mode to Reverse Dis to get the motor running the correct direction. Checking the other parameters from our setup sheet everything was correct. Does anyone have an idea what may have caused this malfunction to happen? Could it be that drive is starting to fail? I haven't checked to see if there is a battery backup for the memory. ### Assistant: The most likely thing is that somebody pressed the (<- ->) direction change button on the HIM module inadvertently. I've done it. I think you are referring to Parameter 190, the Direction Mode. This has options of Unipolar, Bipolar, and Reverse Disable. The Unipolar selection means that the analog or network reference polarity will not change the direction of the drive, but that the drive logic can. Drive logic includes discrete inputs configured for direction command, or bits in a network command, or the direction button on the HIM module. When I have an application that goes in only one direction like a pump or conveyor, I always select Reverse Disable on the Direction Mode. To just prevent the HIM module from making such a change, you can mask it out with the Direction Mask parameter. At the time of the undesired operation, you might have been able to determine what input was commanding the reverse direction by reading the value of the Direction Owner parameter (parameter 291). I don't think that will show anything useful now that you have disabled reverse. Thank you Ken for your rapid response. I will check the drive and probably set the mask up to hopefully prevent this from happening again. To the best of my knowledge no one had really accessed the drive prior to the reversal situation. Rob :-) Just throwing an idea out there... But when power was down to the drive, was anyone accessing the cabling from the drive to the motor? Was the motor replaced and the cable not reconnected to the correct terminals? Cheers Hello Drives Guy, No, the motor was not replaced and to the best of my knowledge they just were doing voltage checks. No cabling was removed. Thank you for bringing that up though. I am in the process of changing the set up for the the 190 parameter in the other drives for this application. Thanks to Ken for that and thanks to this forum, its a great tool. Rob :-) Merry Christmas to you all. n"}
{"text": "### Human: Factory Talk SE 25 Client License Activation Problem Hello, I have a customer who has an Factory Talk SE 25 display Stand alone HMI. Whenever that try to run the HMI from the desktop the initial screen tries to load, and then it immediately closes. When they look at the Windows Event log, there is a message that the Activation is not found, and grace period has expired. However, by using the activation tool the activation is there under current activations. The odd thing is that when I was there about 3 months ago, the machine was working fine, and the grace period had expired by then. Right before I left I did install the newest patches at that time. I was onsite in August 2009, so it would have been the patches released right before then, which I was thinking was June 09. However it seems those patches have been removed from the rockwell site. So, I am wondering if there was a problems with them? They do have RSLogix 5000, and Factory Talk View installed on these machine, and I did have them open both of these applications, and the opened without any activation errors. I will be traveling to site soon to try to reslove this problem, so any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, ### Assistant: If it is a matter of patches, try to run on that PC the last Rollup (I guess you're talking about View SE v5.00) Aid 47015 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Yes, It is Factory Talk SE 5.0 I believe it is SR1 too. Thanks, If the message is saying activation for LE10.exe is not foundFor 5.0, Patches from technotes 49190 and 47015Will fix your problem. n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to edit a Factory Talk project Hello everyone! My question is about how to edit a Factory Talk ME project, if I upload it from PanelView Plus in runtime-format, a file with mer extension. I mean is there any way to change the uploaded Factory Talk ME project if no source file is available? Best regards,Evgeny. ### Assistant: Version 4.0 Machine Edition The .MER file (Machine Edition Runtime) file can be uploaded from a PanelView Plus terminal using the Transfer Utility. Please note that the .MER is a compiled version of the original project and is not editable in version 4.0 (or less). In order to make changes to the 4.0 project, you must have a backup file (.apa) of your project. Version 5.0 (and greater) Machine Edition Version 5.0 of Machine Edition has the option to restore the runtime file. This option is set at creation of the v5.0 runtime file (.mer). When a developer creates an MER 5.0 file he has the ability to include the data, password protect it, or never allow conversion. The file is restored by uploading from the PanelView Plus/Plus CE and running Application Manager to restore to an editable application. So, it depends by the version of the .mer file in the PVP, and if it is version 5.0 and greater, conversion could be possible if the file has not been password protected or configured to never allow conversion. There is a possible procedure to still convert a v4.0 (or less) .mer file (or part of it) and it is explained inside Aid 8913. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: FactoryTalk ME 5.0 I am running a licensed copy of FactoryTalk ME 5.0. I am having trouble creating the .MER file so I can copy it over to a Panelview Plus 1500. The error I get is Unable to save RSlink enterprize data server.Also the error that displays after I attempt is this: *** Start RSLinx Enterprise Conversion Messages ***ERROR: Internal error detected, error code = 27. *** End RSLinx Enterprise Conversion Messages ***Validation completed with errors. The runtime application has NOT been created. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks ### Assistant: There are some possible causes related to this error... I suggest to review technote 33994 that has a summary of those issues. First check the RSLinx Enterprise Communication Setup. This error will be generated if RSLE has not yet been configured for the application. This is the most common cause of the error. Open RSLinx Enterprise Communication Setup and click OK. Please be aware you'll need a TechConnect Authorization to access the above technote... if you haven't, please send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address and I will send you back some infos. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: String import fail in xls format with FT Studio. Hello All. If I export the language strings from an application if mine everything is fine.But.After the modification in the xls file the import is fail because the program think that some of the failure messages are not part of the application. I tried to import the original file back without modification but that's also not working. Stopping with the same failure.For example one line from 200 from importerrors.txt:/M151_01_06:M151_01_06_ME Alarm Message File_MachineAlarms_{::[CP_PLC_1]Program:_00W11_MainChainDrive.AOI_MainChain_Servo.HALH_NegSoftOvertravelFault} does not exist in this application. No Strings for this description were imported. The funny is that the first part of the translated xls is ok so it is visible after I restarting the FT studio but the rest of it isn't.I'm using Office 2007. Can this be the problem? I mean the new office is using xlsx extension and its making something when I use the old xls format. Thanks for the answers/solutions in advance.Merry Christmas and Happy new year. BR. Hurrican. ### Assistant: Please review Aid 55901 and see if it helps.... - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Histogram grayed out in RSlogix, How do I fix this problem? can anyone help me get the histograms to work on rslogix ver 8.2 I'm online with micrologic 1400 controller and want to use a histogram and trend, but the are grayed out?? ### Assistant: from online RSLogix500 help To gain access to the Histogram window you must be online with a processor and then click Comms > Histogram. In search box type in histogram... then select topic to follow. Just tested ONLINE with a Micrologix 1400 and works fine... I'm using RSLogix 500 Standard version 8.10 Please verify first to be online as suggested, then if you still have problems, verify your RSLogix 500 edition, maybe the Micro or Starter version of the software have not this feature available.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1747-SDN DeviceNet Scanner Setup on SLC 5/05 I recently added a 1747-SDN DeviceNet Scanner to my SLC Chassis to be able to interface to some remote controllers. The scanner is setup in the SLC 5/05 processor and configured per the manual. From the operation of the processor, everything looks good, both from the RSLogix 500 software status info [8.10.00 (CPR 9)] and RSNetWorx for DeviceNet software polling [V 9.00.00 (CPR 9 SR1)]. I have a single third party device connected on the DeviceNet network. It is a Western Reserve Controls model W5-JDC4. It has 4 separately configurable RS-232 serial port connections. Per the vendor manual, it accepts an ASCII string from the SLC processor through the direct I/O or M0/M1 tables in the Scanner module via DeviceNet protocol and then converts the info to the RS-232 protocol to the connected RS-232 device. I have configured the device to use just one of the RS-232 ports. I can send the message (string) from the SCL processor using direct I/O to the device. If I monitor the parameter status using RSNetWorx, I see the text string in the transmit parameter of the device. However, I have a sneaker probe polling the RS-232 command out of the device and only the first two bytes (characters) are being sent. Has anyone used this kind of third party device before? Does anyone have any advice how else I could troubleshoot this problem? I have received limited support from the third party vendor, who believes that I'm doing something wrong from the Rockwell DeviceNet setup side. Any help is appreciated. Thanks,Brent ### Assistant: I wrote the quick starts for the 1782-JDC devices a long time ago, but haven't used the 4-port device. Post your RSS and DNT files and I'd be happy to have a look. No guarantees; I'm waist deep in alligators right now, but WRC makes top notch stuff and you shouldn't have too much trouble getting it running. Ken_Roach,Thanks for your quick response. Here are the files you requested. Note: there is a lot of other stuff in the *.rss file. This is an upgrade to an existing system. Any help is appreciated. Thanks,Brent Have you made sure the data size is correct?How often are you sending data? The default rate for comms per the EPR is once every 300 msecs. If no handshake or data is seen the node is dropped.How much data are you moving from the M file?Is there a handshake bit to confirm that you have seen the data?Ken is very knowledgable on our products, so he should be able to help you. n"}
{"text": "### Human: factorytalk view runtime mode not appearing-reg Hi happy christmas and new year to you all, Iam new to factorytalk view studioI have created an project using factorytalk studio for factorytalk view site edition. after creating the application iam not able to test the application. the application menu doesnt appears in my factoryview studio IDE.instead i have settings there. can any one guide me where iam wrong. ### Assistant: Hi krishna, try to follow the instructions from the User's Guide, page 1-14. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Calculate power supply for Flex I/O system I am confusing about calculate power supply for Flex I/O system Our system is including : 1794-ASB (1 pc) 1794-IB32 (1pc) 1794-OB32P (2pc) 1794-IE8 (1pc) 1794-OE4 (1pc)Can you help us to advise how calculate for above system ? Power supply 1794-PS3 or 1794-PS13 ? ### Assistant: Hi RiverVN, there is a technote with all the instructions... Aid 19435 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: how to select the powerflex drive when you get an application like 3ph, 600v, 2hp, what will be based on to choose powerflex 40 or powerflex 70(for example), why?sometimes, design engineer chose the powerflex40 not 70, however, I found 70 also is okay to handle the current, frequency, and torque, tons of thx to whoever can give me a boost. ### Assistant: Hi there, For me, I think the powerflex40 is smaller than the 70's series. So for the same application you can win frame space ...? you have this choice for 0.37 to 11kW. guys chose the one not the other one? cost? thx for u reply post. There are many differences between the two drives, so that in many cases they both cover the application requests, but in other cases the PF70 could be needed.Basically, the PF70 has, more than the PF40, the following features: Vector Control (not only Sensorless Vector)Closed Loop Speed regulationTorque RegulationInternal EMC Filters also on 3 phase drivesMore Communication optionsRemovable HIMIntegrated Safety OptionEncoder Option One important *advantage* for PF40 is its Overload Capability... 150% for 60 secs, so that it is already configured to drive Heavy Duty applications.Using the PF70, you should have to select the next rating size to cover the same request. You may value all these and other differences and features inside the Selection Guide. Take also a look to the PowerFlex40 and PowerFlex70 web sites. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Upgrading PanelViewPlus to 'CE' version Is it possible to ugrade an existing PanelView Plus 2711T10C4D1 comprised of a panel and logic module (no communication module) to one of the 'CE' models? If so, what is required to do so? ### Assistant: Yes, it is possible... you have to order a PanelView Plus CE internal Compact Flash card to replace the current PanelView Plus internal Compact Flash card. Here following the PanelView Plus CE internal compact flash card you may order: * 2711P-RW6 (128 MB) * 2711P-RW7 (256 MB) * 2711P-RW8 (512 MB) Best is to upgrade also the RAM to match the size of the new CF memory... Here following the PanelView Plus / PanelView Plus CE RAM part numbers: * 2711P-RR128 (128 MB) * 2711P-RR256 (256 MB) * 2711P-RR512 (512 MB) Although the minimum Panelview Plus terminal firmware should be at least version 3.10, I suggest to upgrade it to the last available release prior to replacing the internal Compact Flash card. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Dynamix 1000 Sequential Solution Is there any Application note on how many sensors can be monitored using particular logix processor in the Dynamix Sequential solution?I want to know how much processor memory is consumed with the addition of one pair of sensors. Also how much trend points can be stored in Panel View Plus? ### Assistant: About Panelview Plus limits: Historical Trend uses Datalog points, then consists to a maximum of 300.000 records. A collection of technotes that could help:Aid 36265 - View ME Data Logging Best PracticesAid 36267 - View ME Trending Best PracticesAid 36854 - General information about Trend and DatalogAid 36839 - View ME Design/Runtime Limitations Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Is there any information about how much logix processor memory needed per pair of sensor. This will help in choosing right processor as per the sensor quantity and also the performace of the system without loading the processor.My question is like:How many sensors/machines we can monitor with Compact logix L32E & L35E processor?And likewise what the limit for various Contollogix processors? Here is the accelorator, it has all the documentation, code, etc.It basically the hardware layout for you.http://www.rockwellautomation.com/solutions/integratedarchitecture/resources.html n"}
{"text": "### Human: Logix 5000 V17 Changing drive in IO tree I ran into a problem we had a powerflex700 vector drive 125 amp go out and our only replacement was a standard drive 700 156 amp. In order for Logix to communicate with the drive i had to go offline and add the drive then set up the revision and size in the change tab then download and go thru the program use the new tags in the place of the old ones, my question is in the newer versions of logix are you going to be able to add a drive online without haveing to download, we had to take a paper machine down just to download to the porcessor? ### Assistant: Using RSLogix version 17, it is possible to add PowerFlex drives online on Ethernet/IP. See technote 49127 This feature requires Drives AOP v2.01... you may download it at the following link:http://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/webupdate/software.html#See under RSLogix 5000 Drive Add-On Profiles... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PIDE In the PIDE if my enable input goes false will my CV output go to zero or remain at last value? ### Assistant: Here from the Reference Manual, page 80. If EnableIn is cleared, EnableOut is also cleared, the instruction does nothing, and the outputs are not updated. So the answer is: the CV output remains at last value. Just be aware of the following statement, in the same page of the Manual: If the timing mode used in your PIDE is not oversample and EnableIn transitions from cleared to set, the instruction initializes the CVEU and CV values. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PanelView 600 Hello, I need some help with a PanelView 600. The thing is, I cannot communicate with this panel, to be specific: Model: 2711-B6C5 FRN: 3.30. Right now it is communicated with a SLC 5 via RS232 (DH485), however when I disconnected from the PLC and plug it in to my laptop, RSLinx does not even sees it. What I have done: First, I stopped and deleted all the drives in RSLinx in order to avoid conflicts, however, when I create a new one and I press on: Autoconfigure and after a while, it does no establish communication. Second, I shuted Linx down and I used an application on PanelBuilder 32 in which it creates a virtual ( o internal) port. Then I go to Upload, but it stays forever on the first step Identifying operator terminal, progress 0%. I do not know if I have to change something in the PB or the PV or even in RSLinx.By the way, I am connecting directly to the PV600 (Laptop - RS232 - PV). The PLC is on a DH+ network, connecting the terminal to the net, Linx sees it, but the Panel is not on this network so I can see it. Other specs: Hardware: HWCFG KP TSComm SetUp: Max node: 31, Node: 6 , Baud: 19200 The Port printer is not installed. I appreciate any help about this thanks. ### Assistant: This happens because the wrong driver is being used. You need to make sure you are using a PIC driver NOT a DF1 driver. In the communication setup window when you select the driver you would like to use you need to pick the driver that says 1747-PIC / AIC + Driver. When configuring this driver you need to make sure that RSLinx is not running as a service and that RSLinx does NOT have a DF1 driver configured for the same port you are trying to configure for the PIC driver. You will also need to check to see that other software like RSLinx Enterprise does not have a DF1 driver configured in FactoryTalk View. This will also cause the PC to not free up the com port for configuration with the PIC driver. Finally, you will need to use RSLinx for the download in Panelbuilder. After you select download you will have a screen that has options for the download, it will default to DF1 point to point, you will need to select the RSLinx type for the transfer. Once you have this selected you will see the Panelview below in the RSWho window. You will then need to select the PanelView terminal by clicking on it and saying OK at the top of the screen. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: SDN Slots!!! I have two SDN's on my backplane, and when I connect with the second one, which are on slot 09, it seems to me as it was on slot 01?! If I change it to 09 he accepts, but if I get disconnect and connect again it roll back to slot 01... ### Assistant: This is a normal behavior... see Aid 51893 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic How can u know so much about all?! :smileytongue: Thx... n"}
{"text": "### Human: ControlLogix Connections I am converting PLC 3's to ControlLogix 5000 & would like to combine 2 or more programs. These are fairly simple ladder logic (3000 rungs) & mainly 1771 racks connected through RIO modules. I have seen somewhere the maximum connections allowed but haven't stumbled across a manual that covers all of the types. I'm assuming each CNB, I/O adapter, & MSG is a connection but I need to verify this. Could you direct me to the appropriate document? ### Assistant: There are many infos on this argument, both in manuals and in KB... Try to start from User Manual and Aid 44413 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic When you are done the PLC3s make really great end tables and coffee tables. They are just the right height. All you need are some nice round piece of glass and some adhesive rubber pads so the glass will not slide. I have even seen a large oval one that used 2 PLC3s. Ralph; Also be aware that straight ladder addresses..like PLC3.. take way less resources then Tag based ladders which you are converting to... instructions , config, etc aside... rough rule of thumb... standard ladder = 1 size... converted to tag based ladder about 3 times the size regarding memory usage. Ralph, I'm thinking if you use the 1756-RIO module you would not have to worry so much about the connections issues which can be a real problem with the DHRIO card and Block Transfers.1756-RIO Remote I/O communication module RIO: 57.6 Kbps, 115.2 Kbps, 230.4 Kbps — 32 physical racks (0...76), any combination of rack size and block transfers 10 scheduled I/O n"}
{"text": "### Human: connecting C600 to Siemens PLC S7-300 my company just recently purchased a panelview componenet (C600) HMI to replace the Siemens TP170 HMI for our Siemens PLC S7300. My problem is how to connect it with Siemens PLC S&300 since the previous HMI is using the profibus cable and I find no compatible connections in the C600 HMI. Anybody could help please.......Thanks ### Assistant: You may use the PVc driver Siemens S7 MPI... see HERE a list of all the PVc drivers.As the drivers inside the PVc are the same as PanelviewPlus, except for the fact that they are already embedded in the products, you may have a look to the Kepserver Enterprise Driver Help (available here ), to better understand the use and the available data types. You will also need some hardware to connect your PLC to the serial port of your C600... The hardware can be purchased from Siemens. The part numbers are: Siemens Part: 6ES7 - 972 - OCA23 - OXAO Version 5.1 or Siemens Part: 6ES7 - 972 - OCA22 - OXAO Version 5.0 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Compact GuardLogix When will the 1768-L43S be available to OEMs? ### Assistant: Unofficial voices talk about some delay due to the release of RSLogix 5000 v18, needed for that controller... thus probably it will be available between March and April 2010. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PVP 1200 Alarm Is there anyway to transfer alarm or event history to a memory stick(USB) versus printing to usb printer. ### Assistant: You can only access the alarm history files if they are closed, as a result you will have to stop a running FactoryTalk View ME application in order to be able to access the files. [Reference Aid 33924] You may use the Batch file from THIS technote to easy copy the file to an USB memory. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: PANEL VIEW TO ULTRA 3000i WE HAVE SOME ULTRA 3000i SERVO DRIVES CONTROLLED WITH A QUARTECH TERMINALS, IN THE SAME MACHINE WE HAVE A SLC-5/04 WITH A STANDARD PANEL VIEW 1000, CAN WE USE THESE FOR CONTROL THE ULTRA 3000i AND REMOVE THE QUARTECH TERMINAL? ### Assistant: You may send commands to Ultra 3000 using Host Commands from the SLC serial port.RS-232 port should be configured to use ASCII. The host language is not so easy to use from inside a PLC...you may need to spend long time to write the host protocol logic. :smileysad:The host protocol is used easier from inside UltraWare, and also used by operator interfaces from Quartech like you had, but is difficult to use from the serial port of an SLC. Using the DeviceNet version of the Ultra 3000i, you might realize the communication easier, through an SLC Devicenet scanner 1747-SDN. Anyway there are some docs and an example for SLC controller... Aid 22657 contains all this stuff. Be aware it is a TechConnect users reserved document... if you cannot get it, please send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, I'll send you back some docs...Take also a look to the Host Command Reference Manual. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Multiple Processors and a Single Ethernet card Setup:- Two L61 processors in a chassis with a single EN2T Ethernet card. Can both processors have connections to Ethernet devices through the single card?, or can only one processor 'own' the card as such. This would involve both processors having the card declared in their IO structure. Things that will be on this:-Four PowerFlex 40s (22-COMM-E's) and two SMC EX250 Ethernet solenoid banks (these have a vendor AOP). I'm thinking it will make a neater job if the PF40s are on 1 processor with the SMC solenoids on the other processor. I'm suspecting this may be like an output card where only 1 processor can control the RPI to the card? Kudos up for grabs to anyone who can come up with good answers:smileywink: ### Assistant: You may realize the application you described above.A local EtherNet/IP communication module requires no RPI because it produces no data for the system but acts only as a bridge. You will have to configure inside every controller project the Ethernet/IP module to *reach* your remote devices (just inside their configuration you will select the needed RPI) and then you may share the same network and the same communication module. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I'll give this a go, thanks as always for the effort. If it doesn't work for what ever reason, its not the end of the world. The split would have been nice as there are really two processes involved, one can't really stop while the other will have work on going for a while yet - so it would be nice to have total freedom being able to download when ever I like to one of the L61a without any risk to the process in the other L61. Anyone else reading this - no more Kudos for now :smileysad: n"}
{"text": "### Human: RSView32 - Windows 7 - XP Mode Has anyone tried this very much. It is getting increasingly hard for us to obtain new computers with Windows XP for our customers and I need a more immediate solution than wait for the next patch, etc. We do work for mostly small utilitys with limited budgets so RSView32 will be our Rockwell HMI of choice for sometime, the SE configurations seem to be cost prohibitive for the time being. I have a Windows 7 machine that I use for testing and have RSView32 7.5 installed on it and in an XP Mode Virtual PC (XP Compatibility Mode) and have experienced some problems on each. RSView32 seems to work fine in Windows 7 for about 28 minutes then the computer locks up and requires a hard reboot. It worked fine in XP Mode for about a day then I got a Windows error that shut down Project Manager and now it will not run even after a reboot. I've got some XP SP2 machines that I can develop on but this doesn't help my cusotmers. Any ideas? ### Assistant: nan n"}
{"text": "### Human: How to send an ASCII/telnet command to a IP device by RSLogix 500 Hello, I have a ML1400 and I need to access the data of a Omega device through a Ethernet Network. This Omega device is a coordinator that handles wireless data transmission from a 0-20mA device. You can use a Telnet programs to access the data using ASCII commands. (example; send command ERDG00A and the device response with 0 120 24 3,45 mA 4 V. Indicating nº of device, sequence, channel 1, unit, channel 2, unit.) The Omega device, a PC and the ML 1400 are connected to a network, and have an IP address that is in the same range. I want to know if the MSG commands works for this, and How can I configure this instruction? or What command can I use to request data from the PLC to the Omega device? Thanks and Regards. ### Assistant: Never done something like this, but I'm quite sure the only way is through Open Socket features. See Chapter 23 Socket Interface Using CIP Generic Messaging in MicroLogix 1400 Reference Manual. Unfortunately I've not found examples about that, just something about the -EWEB module of CLX, which uses similar manner to communicate through Open Sockets over Ethernet....In case, take a look to the following technotes for reference: Aid 33240 - Aid 32962 - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help. I'm trying to configure the socket interface but I can't pass the openconnection. I've been using the parameters 1 0 2 0 0 and 0 for the setting to createsocket, and apparently is created without problems. Then when I configure the openconnection block returns the error Object Specific General Error. I don't know what is the problem, I am setting the parameters 0 100 22 0 17 2. 16 .0 .2 00 ?p or t= 20 00 I don't know if I'm setting the ip address and the port correctly in the N file. Also, if I set the ip address and port at the createsocket parameters in the Nfile it also return whit the same error. If you have an example on rslogix 500 of create socket it would be very helpfullthanks regards As I've already written, unfortunately, I cannot find an example for you... I'll ask other expert users if they can help... I hope.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic It seems you have similar problem with this thread.Micrologix 1400 CIP Generic TCP/IP Configuration n"}
{"text": "### Human: RS Linx Enterprise StartUp Errors I've created a PV application by cutting and pasting various bits from old applications into a new one. I'm using RSView ME V5.00 When I test the application, (click 'Test Application' so that it loads and runs on my PC), I watch carefully in the status window for all the errors that come up, and fix stuff I've missed. Try as I have, I can't get rid of some that are caused by the launching of RSLinx Enterprise. I've not long been on V5.00, and haven't seen this before. The errors come up after its creating the run time file. Generally you will see status messages:- Changes to the Displays 'xyz' have been saved. It then loads Factory Talk Data server and this is where the problems start. Its trying to load 3 that existed in past applications, but are no longer there.Straight after that, there are Short cut not usable errors? I've pasted up what I'm trying to explain, and blanked out specific file names , short cut names for to maintain confidentiality of this project. I've been through the whole project with a fine tooth comb (not good enough) looking for the offending stuff that got left behind, but can't find it. Is there a way to export and re-import this to clean this up - a bit like save of an ACD to a L5K file. I've already tried backing this up and restoring, and it won't go away. All else works - just wondering whats causing these startup errors? ### Assistant: Hmmm.... just a clarification: are those shortcuts with the error needed in this application ? If yes, try the following:Delete the existing shortcuts and then recreate it.Instead of browsing the device, right-click on the driver in RSLinx Enterprise's communication setup screen and manually add the device.[Reference Aid 39374] If not needed, try the following:Delete all RSLinx Enterprise drivers, shortcuts and reboot. Then, recreate needed drivers and shortcuts. If the above doesn't solve, please post again the screenshot with the errors, and instead of the blank space where you deleted the shortcuts names, please substitute the original names with letters (shortcut A , shortcut B etc.) so that is more clear to follow what happens. :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Just done this again this morning. Here's the issue. A file somewhere keeps a track of what shortcuts all connections are linked to. So if you are copying in stuff from other projects and then changing the connections, the old shortcuts are still logged somewhere while the PC is powered? The only error I have today is from a copy to one particular past project that I've done in todays session. If you want to duplicate this, open a load of projects, copy stuff from many projects into your working project that all have different short cuts. Patch up the connections so that all pasted stuff is all to the one working shortcut now. Test the application, something somewhere is still telling RSLinx Enterprise it needs all the past short cuts. Reboot the PC and all seems good? n"}
{"text": "### Human: Auto-tune a 1336+II powering two identical motors Hi! We're using a 1336+II on an overhead crane and we'd like to autotune it. We understand we need to disconnect the load, but can we autotune with both motors connected or do we need to autotune each motor individually? Thanks Patrick ### Assistant: As far as I know, using autotune and vector control with multiple motors isn't a good practise, more than one motor connected will give wrong data to the drive and cause the control to output less than optimum currents to the motor. With multiple motors, volts per hertz mode is recommended. I suggest also to take a look to this document, it is quite old and prepared for the 1336 Plus, but I think it could help anyway. - fuzzy logic Yeah, it was a lazy cost-saving method, but maintenance isn't easy now. Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer. Patrick n"}
{"text": "### Human: Changing Axis From Position to Torque Mode I'm working on an application that requires the axis to be configured initally as position then changed by the controller program to torque mode. The system is compact logix with Ultra 3000 Sercos. Thanks ### Assistant: Try to see if Aid 42101 and Aid 44359 could help... Take also a look to the User Manual, App. C for all the Axis Attributes. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: help me with my project please!!!! hi i`m having a problem with a point I/O module, i can`t find the way to configure this thing =S... i`m using a module 1734-IT2I that`s a thermocuple module...i was reading that i have to configure the adapter as alisten only device but i did it and the problem gets bigger because i`m using others modules (1734-IB8 and 1734-OB8) and they all fail when i do that...if somebody can help me i`ll be grateful ### Assistant: You must have mis-understood the directions. The owner controller should use a Data connection to the module. You only create a listen only connection if you have a second (or third or fourth) controller that needs to simultaneously listen to the data from that module. The discrete modules (IB8 and OB8) can be part of a Rack Optimized connection or can have their own Data connections. A Thermocouple module cannot be part of a Rack Optimized connection and must have its own Data connection. ok, let`s see if i get it... you mean that a have to create the listen only conection into the controler too??? because in my project i`m usin a L23E QBFC1 controler, two points I/O (one with 4 discretes modules and a thermocuple module; and the other has 4 discretes modules and 2 thermocuple modules...) and i`m using a power flex drive and two panel view plus 600... can you send me a video or a manual to see what i have to do or how ??? if you can do it today i`ll be gratefull... this is my e-mail blasjavier00@hotmail.com... You haven't to create a listen only connection here.... it is not needed for your configuration :smileysurprised: Ken has already pointed you in the right direction... Try to take a look to the Quick Start and User Manual ,you may find useful infos and the needed steps to configure all your devices... see also the Adapter User Manual - chapter 5 in particular for a configuration with a mix of Direct and Rack Optimized connections like you have. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic It is best when you are using the smallest CompactLogix controllers to be sure you understand their communication capacities. It sounds to me like you will have six I/O connections over EtherNet/IP. This is within the capacity of the small CompactLogix controllers. 1734-AENT Rack Optimized connection with 4 discrete modules1734-IT2I Thermocouple Module Connection1734-AENT Rack Optimized connection with 4 discrete modules1734-IT2I Thermocouple Module Connection1734-IT2I Thermocouple Module ConnectionPowerFlex drive with 22-COMM-E or 20-COMM-E The EtherNet/IP Modules in Logix 5000 Control Systems user manual is a very good primer on the configuration of EtherNet/IP devices with Logix controllers. Two PV+ terminals is OK as well; just don't set the display update rates faster than 250 milliseconds and the controller should be fine. Attached is an example of the I/O configuration. Remember to set up the POINT chassis size to be 1+ the number of attached modules (the -AENT adapter itself takes up Slot 0.) I have assumed two IB8 and two OB8 modules; you will of course adjust this to the correct value. THANK YOU MY FRIEND... IF YOU WERE HERE IN VENEZUELA I SWEAR THAT I WOULD PAY FOR ALL YOUR BEERS TILL YOU GET COMPLETELY DRUNK AND IF YOU DRINK I TRY TO FIND THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL FOR YOU HAHAHAHAHA =) SORRY I`M JOCKING :smileyvery-happy: THANK YOU VERY MUCH... AND HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY... n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-ENBT module cannot reconnect after network interruption qty 2 1756-L61 processor running Logix v16 programs. There are approximately fifty devices on the network split up between switches. There are 15 devices connected to SW1, SW3 and SW4 and 4 devices connected to SW2. The switches are Phoenix managed switches.L61(1) --- SW1 --- SW2 --- SW3 --- SW4 --- L61(2) When L61(1) or L61(2) looses connection to the network and that connection is later re-established, not all devices reconnect. A packet capture of the traffic shows that the devices that do not reconnect never get a connection request from the ENBT module. Although they respond to TCP/IP and unicast ENIP messages. Upon subsequent connection losses and re-connects, the same number of devices will not reconnect but they are the devices that did not reconnect the previous time the connection was lost.. At first power up and perhaps the first two reconnects, all devices connect. Does anyone have any ideas? I have tried everything that I can think of short of tearing the network apart and re-building it a piece at a time (which I cannot do because of production pressures). ### Assistant: Anyone?????????????????/ It sounds at first blush like a CIP connection limit problem. The L6x controllers support 250 CIP connections and I think the 1756-ENBT will bridge 128, so I've never seen a CIP connection budget problem with the -L6x. They're relatively common in novice applications with CompactLogix but not with ControlLogix. Could you be using up a very large number of CIP connections with Produced/Consumed Tags ? Check the diagnostic web pages of -ENBT modules for useful information about the current number of connections in use on each module. I like to capture those webpages with WGET. Can you ever get the whole system up and running again ? If this is a resource starvation problem, the connection issue must move around. Of course check the usual: make sure the system has been screened for Atmel64 backplane bridge chip issues, and collect F/W revisions for everything. Thank you.That is my impression also but I could not prove it without major changes to the control programs, which I could not do.The data to/from one of the devices is done via produced and consumed tags. I had suggested a user defined structure and a CIP data table read/write to pass the information but with the program already done and in production, that change was too severe and not allowed. Have you tried 'upping' the number of 'Unconnected Buffers' from the default of 10 to 40?Post back again if you need help on how to do this. Hope this linking works - look at this thread UnconnectedBuffers If you installed the RSLogix 5000 Task Monitor Tool, open it up and monitor your controller with it. Go to the Networking tab and check the number of connections. They are broken down by connection class: I/O Module, Produced Tag, Consumed Tag, Incoming (like from HMI), Message (MSG instruction), Cached connections and Backplane Buffers. This should help you know if you are running out of controller connections (ControlLogix L6x = 262 max.). Note that the number than can bridge through an ENBT is less than this (I think it's something like 128...). Each consumed tag takes up a connection, and a consumed tag can be a UDT of up to about 480 bytes, so it makes sense to have your consumed tags be UDTs or arrays. The EtherNet/IP tab info from the Task Monitor Tool may also be helpful..... Hope this tool helps some! If nothing else, it may help eliminate some items as not a problem. BTW, what are the RPIs on the Consume connections? Check the Processes tab of the Task Monitor Tool and see how much CPU is being used for communications and messaging. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: Why didn't delete the histroy data record with SQL Server 2000 in RSViewSE 4.0.? I create a data log module, use ODBC storage format. I need only 5 days histroy data in SQL Server2000 database. So I set the data log to save the 5 days' history data only. but now ,i find that the RSViewSE can't delete the histroy data after one month.Is there who can tell the how to do? ### Assistant: Here from the User Guide, chapter 21 : If a data log model uses the ODBC database format, you can purge old records from the database using standard relational database tools or SQL queries. You can also set up FactoryTalk View to delete (purge) records in the ODBC database after a specified time.For details about options in the File Management tab, click Help. Aid 53013 contains some instruction to keep your SQL 2000 cleaned up... Aid 39675 contains a VBA script to run from SE to purge the database records...be aware a Tech Connect Authorization is needed to access the technotes. - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: Redundant Controllogix w/Serial PLC5 message mapping We are setting up a system to receive commands from an existing system that sends commands via RS-232 DF1 messages. We have tested, and proved that the new controllogix system will receive the commands from the existing system. However, the final system will use a Redundant controllogix configuration. (2 - CPU Chassis, with 1756-RM Modules, IO on Controlnet, etc) We have the ability to switch which controller (Primary/Backup) will connected to the existing DF1 transmitter, (Using a serial switch) but will there be any problems with this configuration using redundancy?? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers ### Assistant: The -SRM modules had a relay onboard that you could use with a serial switch to route a serial connection to the Primary controller; there was even a bit about doing that in the Redundancy User Manual. Does the new -RM have an onboard relay like that as well ? The method you describe is the standard method for interfacing Redundant ControlLogix to serial connections. Unfortunately, it seems the -RM doesn't have the onboard relay as the -SRM series B has.... :smileysad: Try to take a look to the suggested wiring and configuration from Aid 34231, an unused output from a remote module could be used to obtain a similar result... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks. I was less concerned with how to do it, then how the Redundancy manager would handle this. There are 1300 IO located quite some distance away, over controlnet (Fiber). For the switching I planned on using a FlexIO module to control the switcher locally. Thanks for the help. Shadcomm, You probably already have this info..... To switch your relay, you can a GSV to the Redundancy class, PhysicalChassisID attribute, which returns a 1 or 2 depending on which chassis (controller) is primary, and if it's equal to 1, energize the relay. If it's backwards (or if you end up replacing one or the other 1756-Axx chassic), change the 1 to a 2. Lots of other good data in the Redundancy class worth monitoring and (maybe) displaying on your HMI.... Dale, W8ABZ n"}
{"text": "### Human: New at Factory Talk View Studio-Need Help I recently learned making my own plc logic on RSLogix 5000. I want make my own aplication to run on Panelview. I am very new at RSView Studio. Is there any PDF that anyone reccomend? I just need to know how to maka a new HMI and how to connect Logix5000 tags to the panelview. I tried lot of of pdf files on knowledge database but nothing helped. I dont know if AB has step by step approach on making a sample project and show how to connect it with Logix5000 and steps to load it on the Panelview. I leanred GuarLogix similarly in one of their pdf files. Jack ### Assistant: Hi Jack, there are so many resources you may find around in the Rockwell Automation websites. I suggest the User Manual (part 1 and part 2) , the Videos (very useful), search for the FactoryTalk View Machine Edition Quick Start Videos, and the Quick Start for CompactLogix, chapter 12, where you may find some instructions about a Panelview Plus application developing. Hope those helps, - fuzzy logic Thank you very much. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 2711-K10C9x downloading via 1747-UIC I have a 2711-K10C9 standard panelview I am trying to download an application file to. I do not have a real RS-232 port. It appears per tech note 28811 that my 1747-UIC is bogus. (SER A, REV A, FRN 1.1, Mfg 0404).Question is: Can I make my Keyspan USB-Serial converter (work on Ultra3000) work? What driver? ### Assistant: Hmmmm.... I don't know very well the Keyspan, but I've serious doubts it can be used with a DH-485 protocol... usually those generic USB to serial converters only work with DF1 protocol... :smileysad: I think you need a new 1747-UIC to realize your download. - fuzzy logic Correct. USB to serial converters will NOT work for DH485. DF1 only, I'm afraid. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1784U2DHP TROUBLE WE RECENTLY GET THE UPGRADE OF PCMK TO 1784U2DHP BUT WHEN WE CONNECT IT TO A SLC5/04 WE DON'T SEE THE PANEL VIEW CONNECTED ON RS-232 PORT OF PROCESSOR ### Assistant: The 1784-U2DHP, like the 1784-PCMK, connects you to the Data Highway Plus network. The use of bridging devices, including the SLC-5/04's DF1 to DH+ passthrough, may require additional configuration. Did the PanelView terminal appear in your browsing previously, when you were connected using the 1784-PCMK ? Describe in detail the Status bits in the SLC-5/04 that you have set with regard to DF1/DH+ Passthrough. The key question is did this work before. Only if the answer is yes, and the U2DHP/PCMK swap is the only difference should anyone focus on the 1784-U2DHP rather than the overall configuration. Yes it did, in fact it does, the panel view appears on the browser just when we are using the pcmk card, we use this passthrough to download applications to the panel view. I couldn't find anything in my searches. Sounds like it might be a scenario that hasn't been tested. Best bet is to submit a question via the Submit a Question link in the Knowledge Base and have the TechSupport gurus test it out for an official answer. JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: pv550 download under win3.11 Hi guys, i have to download to a PV550 DH485-Panel 2711-B5A2 Frn 1.04.I can not use PB32 and RSlinx.I have a Win3.11, an Interchange driver and a 1747-pic on a COM1 port.I use the standard config of the COM-Port (9600, 8, n, 1, no Handshake)The error-msg: transfer aborted unable to send commands to terminal. Who can help me? Thank you very much.hugette ### Assistant: Wow, that's OLD. I don't see why PanelBuilder32 would not work, on a modern PC. I don't think there is any PV terminal firmware too old for PanelBuilder32. The 1747-PIC driver does not allow you to choose the Data/Stop/Parity settings; you generally choose 19200 baud and a node number. Make sure you are not attempting to use the DF1 driver. Remember that the 1747-PIC receives power through the DH485 plug, so the PanelView must be connected to a power supply or to an SLC controller so that power can pass through the PV terminal to the 1747-PIC. yes its old.the Panel 550 does not suttort the Bitmaps, if the Application opend by PB32 and downloaded with RSLinx.I have to use an older PB version. An older PB version will not run on a Win2000. Also i have to take an older PC, there the RSLinx does not run.The PCMK port of RSLinx is working on Win2000, the kommunication is ok, the bitmaps not.How will the Win3.11 kommunicate with the PV550 DH485. Thanks for your answer.hugette The very latest PB32 will work with the very oldest PV firmware. The only bitmap image I can remember was a few versions ago (maybe around v3.6?) where bitmaps could get inverted. But the latest version of PB32 definitely does not have *that* problem. Seriously, I've done PB32 support for over 10 years, and I doubt I could get the system you've got running. :) JHutch n"}
{"text": "### Human: Russian text in panelbuilder 1400e Hi, At first all a happy new year! I've to use some Russian text in a Panelbuilder 1400e program, how can I fix this?I've tried it with an Russian keyboard, but it gives only ????? When I type some text. I've also read a topic about Russian text in RSview32, but this won't help... Best regards Jack ### Assistant: Unfortunately, Cyrillic characters (Russian and others) are not supported on PB1400E.... :smileysad: [Reference Aid 48355] - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: HOW TO START UP MY SYSTEM FOR THE FIRST TIME?? Hi there, I ve a SLC 5/04 system and wanna start it for the first time, it's consisted of 3 Racks, Should i notice any special point before running the system for the first time?? any pre-configuration?? thanks in advance... ### Assistant: Hi, not to mention particular points to be aware of, just to suggest to review the User Manual (the one already suggested by Ken Roach replying to your previous post) which contains the needed steps to have your system up and running... particular focus on chapter 1 and 8... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n"}
{"text": "### Human: 3600 RPM Motor on VFD? I have an application where I need to run a pump at 2400 RPM to achieve the desired pressure. I currently have a 20HP 1800 RPM motor running at 70 Hz. (2000 RPM)I cannot increase the speed (Hz) more or my drive trips on OL.I am looking at increasing the motor HP and Drive size and/or changing the motor to 3600 RPM.Has anyone ran a 3600 RPM motor on a Powerflex at 45Hz or so? We have considered changing the pump, but that requires a larger motor, Powerflex Drive and cable anyway.I am looking at the above approach to avoid the pump purchase. Any Thoughts? ### Assistant: Cygnusx1, when a motor goes above it's base speed, in your case 1800RPM, the torque will begin to drop off as the speed is increased. See the formula and torque curve below:HP = TN 63,000Where, T = Torque (in-lb) N = Speed (RPM) As the motor speed goes up (N), the torque has to go down to maintain constant HP. To go to 2400RPM, you will have to run at 80Hz. Your torque will drop off considerably. If you go to a 3600RPM motor, you will be in the constant torque area of the torque curve for you full range and you will be running at 40Hz. If you use an inverter duty motor you shouldn't have a problem. Double the size of the motor if going to 3600 RPM. n"}
{"text": "### Human: CompactLogix Serial communications via MSG function What are the port numbers for applying the path in a MSG instruction for serial (DF1) communications?I am using a 1769-L23E-QB1B.Answer ### Assistant: Welcome to the Forum, Paul. Getting the Port numbers right on different platforms can be a little tricky, but once you get the hang of it CIP message Paths make good sense. That Knowledgebase Answer ID # 28742 should be updated; it dates from when there were only three models of CompactLogix; the 1769-L20 (one serial port only), 1769-L30 (two serial ports) and 1769-L35E (Serial + EtherNet/IP). When you're initiating CIP messages, think of yourself as the Logix controller. The backplane, whether a physical (1756), logical (1769, 1768, 1794) or virtual (1789), is always Port 1. Port 2 is the RS-232 serial port on any controller. The rare controllers that have two serial ports (1769-L30 and 1769-L31) designate the second serial port as Port 3. Every other network port has to be accessed through the backplane. On your controller, the path should be 2,1, for a message from the Channel 0 serial port to a DF1 destination device at Node 1. The most common mismatch I can think of between a CompactLogix serial port and a MicroLogix 1500 is that the MicroLogix default error checking is CRC, while the CompactLogix default error checking is BCC. The cable between the two should be a null modem type cable. n"}
{"text": "### Human: 1756-ENBT Comms Issue Hi, I've got a 1756-L63 CPU in slot 0, a 1756-ENBT card in slot 1 followed by 3 successive 1756-CNB/E control net cards.I have two other racks with 1756-L61's communicating through ethernet 1756-ENBT's to the above main rack. The problem i am experienceing at present is as follows... The Scada communicates through the ethernet card in slot 1 also and can hang. This seems to cause problems with the devices connected to the control net network. This is the main issue and i am wondering if placing the control net cards in slots 1-3 and the ethernet card in slot 4 will ensure that the control net will then be processed first followed by the ethernet comms. If this is the case then this would help but obviously not solve the issue. The second thing i have noticed is through the diagnostics on the ethernet card. The system resource utilisation is approx 80%. When i disable communications to one of the other processors (2xBTR messages and 2xBTW messages) it drops to 62%. This is quite substantial and disabling the messages one by one does show a drop of 4-5% each time which equates to the 18% total drop when comms is not enabled. The comms is all written in the 1756-L61 processors. The final thing noticed is that when the comms freezes it seems to drop the % system resource utilisation but the actual Current CIP Message Connections substantially increases.System Resource Utilisation goes from 80% to 30%Current CIP Message Connections goes from 45 to 75 and even above that. The questions i have are 1. Would moving the ethernet card to post control net cards mean that the control net cards would then be in effect processed first hence meaning the problem would then be moved from the I/O entirely.2. Is there any way that inter-plc communications messaging can be improved (eg. newer ethernet cards etc)3. With more Message Connections it seems to reduce the system resource utilisation %. Should this not be the other way around. Thanks for any help on the above issues. ### Assistant: Hi there, I don't know for certain, but I don't believe changing the slot location of the cards would help in this case. Some general guidelines for communications performance can be found in technote ID41212. You may also need to increase the System Overhead Time Slice if in fact the PLC is not spending enough time servicing communications. If I understood correctly, you have already used the web browser to look at the ENBT performance. I would also suggest using the RSLogix 5000 Task Monitor utility to see if there are any performance issues with the PLC. In regards to question #2, I've upgraded from a 1756-ENBT to a 1756-EN2T module on a previous job. The EN2T is twice as fast and can handle twice as many connections as the ENBT. Hopefully you'll be able to solve your issue without changing hardware, however. I definitely agree that the position of the modules in the backplane has no effect on their communications with the CPU. But the idea that the SCADA communication can hang at the same time as ControlNet connection failures suggests a common cause, rather than a dependent relationship. The CPU Utilization on the Ethernet card is just for the Ethernet card, and 80% is about the maximum I'd run it at. I'm curious abou the communications between the processors using Messaging; maybe BTW and BTR were just a mis-statement; controller-to-controller messages will be CIP Data Table Read and CIP Data Table Write messages. How is the logic for those messages set up ? If the messages are self-retriggering they may take up more bandwidth than you think on the Ethernet module and in the controller. It is more efficient to use Produced/Consumed Tags between controllers over Ethernet because these are handled by a reserved amount of resources in the 1756-ENBT and the ControlLogix and they don't compete with the SCADA traffic for buffers. The jump in CIP Message Connections when communications goes to heck actually makes sense. The controller uses CIP Messages to request and open I/O connections, which then run through a cyclic I/O connection. When a bunch of those cyclic connections break, the controller has to open up a bunch of CIP Messages to get them set up again. Processing the cyclic I/O connections, especially when they are fast, takes up CPU utilization. I agree that the RSLogix 5000 Task Monitor tool might be useful; don't get hung up on the CPU utilization of the Continuous Task (a common red herring) but look at the Communication task resources. Have you checked this system carefully for the backplane bridge chip issue from PSA 2007-05-002 ? This sounds like a cluster of Connection failures, which is one of the things that could happen from the related Technote 41204 bridge chip issue. It's worth taking the time to eliminate that possibility. AlanGEA, Ken's comment about the self-retriggering MSGs prompts me to reply. Back in my PLC-5 days on DH+, you could pass about 15 full-size packets (100-ish integers per packet) of data per second on a network, and a single NP5 with a low scan time could swamp a network to capacity with messages, making it impossible for a programming terminal to connect until you put the offending controller in Program. I'm curious about the L61 programs -- scan time, and conditions for triggering the MSG instructions. Do they need to be that fast? Based on the PLC-5 experience above, I got in the habit long ago of having EVERY MSG triggerd by time (like a self-retriggering TON) so I can control the data flow based on application requirements. Are the MSGs cached? I'm just getting the feeling that if you have two L61s pounding the L63 with MSGs, you'll use up whatever CPU is available for handling MSGs, and these will compete with any HMI you might also have beating up on it. (This is part of why RSView / FTView went to a data server architecture -- then there's only ONE data server polling tags in the controller, and the clients get their data from it, rather than having all the clients polling the controller. Two or three Panelviews would swamp a DH+ with traffic.... It doesn't take many FTView ME boxes to bring a Logix controller to its knees.) One way to free up CPU time for responding to MSGs is to change the Continuous Task to a Periodic Task. The Periodic Task runs to completion, then the unused CPU time is completely available in a big uninterrupted chunk for responding to MSGs. What is your Task configuration now? Do you have multiple Tasks or just one Continuous? If you have multiple Periodic Tasks, do any of them have the same priority? This is an especially bad idea, because multiple tasks at the same priority will swap (I think every millisecond), resulting in a huge overhead of task swap stacking and unstacking in the CPU stack. I'm also curious about use of BTR and BTW between controllers....... Are you messaging individual SINT / INT / DINT / BOOL / REAL / STRING tags separately, or are you grouping data into arrays / UDTs for sending? Using a message with 30-ish bytes of overhead to send a single SINT / INT / DINT / REAL / BOOL makes no sense. Can any messages be triggered on change in data (using the found bit of an FBC, for example), rather than sending the same unchanged data over and over as fast as possible? (You could also trigger on time --- like once every second or two -- to keep a watchdog timer happy....) I agree with Ken that the best way is to group data into UDTs of about 480 bytes each and exchange using Produced/Consumed tags. Consider carefully how often you need the data when setting up the RPIs of the consumed tags. If you really need the data that fast, you probably have code distributed between controllers that should be in the same controller. Most I/O signals don't change that fast! Just because of the AC waveform and filtering, for example, reading an AC discrete input faster than about 50 to 100 ms makes no sense. (Of course, I'm a process guy -- I know the discrete world is usually faster. I'm just saying: consider how often you REALLY need the data and throttle your messages / consumed tags appropriately!) Sorry if all that sounded kind of editorial (or even preachy -- very sorry!).... It really was meant to be helpful in finding bottlenecks, things that don't have to be done every 10 ms, etc. Anyway, let us know about the task layouts of the controllers, the MSG triggering and how fast the L61s are expecting the L63 to respond. It'll help us get a feel for how full the system is. Thanks!!!Dale, W8ABZ p.s.: Immediately after I posted the above, my browser updated and I saw you checkmarked Ken's message as solving the problem. So, like Emily Litella -- never mind!!! n"}