### Human: Voltage Signal drop at Powerflex700 drive Dear All, I had installed a Powerflex700 drive and the DDC system employs Voltage analog(0-10Vdc) control to vary the VFDspeed. However, when the system wiring completed and proceed to T&C, the voltage signal was dropped to 7.6Vdc when the DDC Analog output is 10Vdc. Therefore is there any solution to rectify the Voltage signal linear to scale so that my drive can run on full speed when 10Vdc control is received in Analog In 1?? Thousand Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Best Rgds.,Man ### Assistant: follow the below example.First send the maximum analog reference to the drive and look at the value in Par 016. This is the value you use in [ Analog In 1 Hi ]P320 − [Anlg In Config], bit 0 = “0” (Voltage)P090 − [Speed Ref A Sel] = “Analog In 1”P091 − [Speed Ref A Hi] = 60 HzP092 − [Speed Ref A Lo] = 0 HzP322 − [Analog In 1 Hi] = 5VP323 − [Analog In 1 Lo] = 0VThis configuration is used when the input signal is 0-5 volts. Here, minimum input (0 Volts) represents 0Hz and maximum input (5 Volts) represents 60 Hz. This allows full scale operation from a 0-5 voltsource \n


### Human: Powerflex 700 fault Hi, We have experienced a few Powerflex 700 drive - Fault 24 (Decel Inhibit) errors over the last week. The drive supplies 2 motors in parallel on a printing press reelstand. We initially changed the drive but the fault occurred again. Every time it has happened the press was running at speed but was NOT decellerating. As each motor had an encoder on it, I have now swapped to the alternate encoder in the hope that this cures the fault but after reading the handbook, I'm not sure it will. Any ideas on possible causes? I imagine the next step will be to start swapping the motors over to eliminate them. ### Assistant: Did you already take a look to the following thread ? http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=530#M530 It threats the same argument and could give you some useful infos.... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PowerFlex 4M Programming Power Greetings Drive World, Does anyone know whether or not it is possible to connect an external power supply to the PF 4M to provide programming power to the drive without powering up the entire drive? Apparently some of the competition to this drive can be powered up in a single phase format to allow for parameter programming, but not operation. Thank you. ### Assistant: A long time ago you could just power up the middle phase and it would work but not on today's drives. The drive has to be powered up to run the HIM but if you're using a 22-Comm-x (C, D, E) moduel, then there is a small box you can purchase from AB that allows you to externally power the moduel but for programming the drive...it has to be connected normally in order to power up the drive electronics, unless there's some AB wizard with a tip we don't know about. I've needed to do just what you're talking about many times in the past so I finally rigged up a 480/120 transformer, fed it in reverse, and then did what I had to do. Again, seems there could be a small 24VDC connector for allowing this to happen BUT....that would be taking too much for granted. \n


### Human: Ultra 5000 logic for a leading edge sensor for registration mark Ok, so I am one of the sick people that use the Ultra 5000, it fit the budget and the project design. I was wondering if anybody has any better logic than this for a registration sensor. The sensor starts off blocked, clears between parts, and then I want to start a function when the next part comes into position (i'm using it as a registration offset for a labeler). This is the code I'm using right now: while ((!InputGetState(2)) && (TimerDone(1)==0)) { pe4=0; } while((InputGetState(2)) && (TimerDone(1)==0)) { pe4=1; } while((!InputGetState(2)) && pe4==1 && (TimerDone(1)==0)) Just wondering if anybody has any better way to do it that isn't as verbose. Thanks ### Assistant: Can I assume from this logic that the final step to break out of these while loops is the Timer1 going done? Why aren't you utilizing the LatchOnIndex command? You apparently don't need the motor feedback from the latch but it would provide you with a function that operated automatically. In this example you check that the count has increased on the latch then store it in memory in case you want to run an operation off that memory with TriggerShot. if(LatchGetCount(1)!=CountBuffer && TriggerShot==0) { TriggerShot=1; CountBuffer=LatchGetCount(3); } if(TriggerShot==1 && TimerDone(1)==0) function_call(); I don't know your exact use case, but this is just another way to tackle it. I've got this running on many machines right now and we don't have any issues with the timing. I'm just concerned with all of your while statements that the code will be trapped in there and unable to run any error handling routines elsewhere in the code. \n


### Human: The replacement for motor H6200-0-H00AA and servo drive 1398-PDM-075 We are using motor H6200-0-H00AA with servo drive 1398-PDM-075 . Please help us to advise the replacement for them. ### Assistant: Are you looking for exact replacements; as in spare parts or removing them completely?If you want to remove them completely and replace with new products, the Controllogix Kinetix motion would be the way to go. But none of the existing system, hardware or software, can be reused.For spares of the H series motor, check out the web site for Elwood-Getty at:http://www.elwood.com/gettys_rockwell.shtml \n


### Human: Single phase to Three phase drives for welder application Greetings, Has anyone every done an application involving a 1phase to 3phase drive application to provide power to welding equipment? I just took a call from a customer for 5 such units. Thanks. ### Assistant: Futher to my question; we are looking at adding a sine wave filter to the output of the drive to provide the cleanest possible power output to the welding machine. Is there anything else that I should be nervous of? Thanks \n


### Human: RSLogix Ver 17, PF 70 EC, Creating new Data Base not functioning correctly on one laptop Cannot get the create new data base to function on one laptop correctly.Appears to connect to drive, and pull data from drive, but after it has completed, same message.Also if trying to use tag from this drive, (with this laptop) errors occur.What you think? ### Assistant: It would be useful to post the exact error messages you get, or add a screenshot of it. This will allow users to best try to help you on the issue. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Documentation explanation Hello, Here is a copy of the PowerFlex 4 and 40 Technical Data.All communications looks to be present for the PF40, is that true ?I want to use a Modbus RTU link, is it possible without an additionnal board ? Many thanks. Serge. ### Assistant: Yes, this is true; see also this LINK for more infos. All the PF4x drives can be controlled through a Modbus RTU link,using the Integral RS-485 port, without additional boards (and costs! :smileytongue: ) See appendix C of the User Manual for supported Modbus functions and connections. You may also find some infos and hints in the Knowledgebase (for example in Aid 27558) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Competing against ITT PumpSmart / Aquarvar Pump Controllers with PowerFlex Hi there, Has anyone recently been up against ITT PumpSmart or AquaVar Pump Controllers? I have a local (AB friendly) Integrator that is currently up against this product on a job, and I was wonder if anyone could offer me some competitive collateral to offer to my integrator? Any help at all? Thanks. ### Assistant: nan \n


### Human: Kinetix 6000 single-phase operation. Is it possible? Hi, I'm new to the Kinetix products and I would like to know if the Kinetix 6000 have a single-phase operation in addition to the three-phase operation. I would also like to know if the power rail is imperative, and if not, if it's safe to operate without it. ### Assistant: Kinetix 6000 needs a three-phase input power. The 2094 power rail consists of copper bus bars and a circuit board with connectors for each module.The power rail provides power and control signals from the converter section to adjacent inverters.The IAM, AM, SM, and PRF modules mount to the power rail. So, without the power rail, the system cannot be used. See User Manual and Selection Guide for more infos. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Output phase loss PF70,PF700S How can i detect simply the output phase loss with PF70 or PF700S??The load loss is a indirect conclusion.I need direct.I mean one bit in the fault word for example.I think this is a simply problem but unsolved for the Rockwell,sorry but i think this is the truth.I need your help,because we will change the drive,if there is no solution (product of other company). ### Assistant: These drives don't actually monitor each output phase from the drive nor do they have a specific bit associated with the phase. Other parameters in the drive detect and react if a problem occurs within the drive or to the load. The drive will fault or alarm (however you have it programmed) if it thinks there is a problem with the load, especially for load loss. The question is: What action do you want the drive to take if there is an output phase loss? Fault? If so, then the drive can be programmed to do so. You could monitor parameter 006 (output voltage) and if it drops to a particular level then you'll know if you've lost a phase....of course, the drive probably would've faulted by then. \n


### Human: E21 in Ultra 3000 I have changed an Ultra 200 1398-DDM-019 with an H-4030-P-H motor to an Ultra 3000 2098-DSD-020 with an MPL-A420P-H motor, with a 2000 ppr encoder.The configuration for the application is with step/direction mode, it receives pulses from an Bosch interface. The machine is a Bosch packaging machine.The application seems to work ok, but I received very often an E21 error message, which I cannot solve.Do you have any recommendation.Thank you ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 29066 ... it seems a noise related problem... also the attached screenshot gives some indications of possible cause... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PF40 DATA OVER ETHERNET I was planning to use PF40 with low HP motors and control them over Ethernet using the 22 or 20-Comm-E card (dont remember wich one is the rigth), anyway ; I also need to get some info about motor status like comand frecuency, actual frecuency and current, but into RsLgx 5000 when I configured the drive comm device I see the datalinks grayed so I cant use it to read current or any other data out the default data I guess, my question is if I go Devicenet comms instead of Ethernet could I configured datalinks just like the PF 700 drives or this is a PF 70/700 exclusive feature Thanks R Walle ### Assistant: Unfortunately, Powerflex 4x has not the possibility to use Datalinks... Only way you have in order to read/write parameters is through Explicit Messaging. Aid 38670 22-COMM-E User Manual - chapter 6 as examples Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PLC5 & PFlex using Datalinks over DeviceNet Is it possible to use datalinks, over DeviceNet, with new PFlex 755 and PLC5? PLC5 only being able to do 16 bit and PFlex using 32 bit. Some drives, I think, had a way to set the type of size for the datalinks, either 16 or 32. Thanks, ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 39172... it explains how to send data from an 16bit controller to a drive with 32bit datalinks. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: powerflex 700 error F 90 I have a powerflex 700 series B firmware 6.004. I am trying to connect an encoder to watch the position of the motor. I set P53 (motor control select) to sensorless vector and I also tried FVC vector. I had P80 (Feedback Select) set to encoder and P412 (motor feedback type) to quad check and then to quadrature. With any of these settings I get fault 90 after a few minutes of running. So, then I set the drive back to factory defaults and i still got fault 90. I had to power down and remove the encoder card in order to run the drive without faulting on F90. Any suggestions? The encoder is new - quadrature 600 ppr. (I did set P413 to 600) Also do you know if there are any advanced drives classes available from Rockwell? ### Assistant: Manual report this as Encoder Quad Err, Both encoder channels changed state within one clock cycle. Actions: 1. Check for externally induced noise. 2. Replace encoder. After these two checks, I guess you may have a faulty Encoder Card... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Ultra 5000 firware Anyone know where to find Ultra5000 firmware. It does not seem to exist on the AB support site! ### Assistant: Hmmm... it seems to be available only through Technical Support guys... :smileysurprised: Contact them and see if they can help you... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Regarding PF400, Speed reference by Push Button Dear All,Can we use Push Button in PowerFlex 40 for Speed Increment/ Decrement. Please confirm the Software Parameters for that.As we are unable to use Push Button in PowerFlex4M Series Drive for Speed reference. Please update Kind Regard Shashi Bhushan Chauhan ### Assistant: You may use the MOP function un PowerFlex 40. Param. P038 should be set to 1 - Internal FreqParam. A069 will act as MOP frequency reference Then you may use two Digital Inputs on the terminal as MOP increment and MOP decrement; just configure the related A051-A054 parameters to MOP Up and MOP Down. Reference is the PF40 User Manual and Aid 24194 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: powerflex 400 heatsink overtemp fault Hi,We are getting a heatsink overtemp fault on our powerflex 400. The fans do NOT start turning when a start command is given. I replaced the fans and still no luck. I suspect there is some kind of power supply board that runs these fans. Does anybody know what part ### Assistant: I remember a Product Issue about these fans for PF400, try to see if your drive could be affected (a transistor inside the fan could become faulty for this issue, so also the replaced fan could be affected if it was manufactured in the period indicated in following technotes) Aid 57378 - Aid 58083 Aid 47655 contains spare parts list for PF400. Hope this helps. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PF700 two Reference Speed What configuration should I do with PF700 if 2 reference speed is required? Speed 1 - Via PotentiometerSpeed 2 - Analog (4-20 mA) ### Assistant: Utilize the digital inputs to switch between Reference select 1 & 2 (par 361 - 366) and Reference A & B (par 90 & 93) \n


### Human: Communtcation Error on Powerflex 40 Drive with DeviceNet I have a DeviceNet MCC and a Poweflex 40 Drive in a tub. I am having very random Faults they say Fault 71 Adaptor Net Loss. The Lights on the communication card are flashing Green on the Mod light and the Net A light. It does this off and on every few days. If you turn the power off to the drive it resets it and the lights all go solid green and the drive starts to function correctly. Its goes from device net to a scanner to ethernet. Any Ideas ?? ### Assistant: Check to see how many Dnet nodes you have on the link and also how fast is your RPI (update time) set for the drive. Also, you can configure the drive to not fault or alarm on net loss. \n


### Human: Ultra3000 fault code vs Clx Is there a way to have the fault code displayed at the front of the drive (Exx) into a plc register? I'm using a sercos card with a Clx controller. Thanks ### Assistant: No. I posed this question several months ago to Rockwell tech support and the answer was no. Not even a message instruction would retrieve the information. \n


### Human: SMC-3: Bypass Rules? are there any suggested rules, when I have to use a bypass for the SMC-3?maximal coninuous operation is 18h per day. ### Assistant: Did you see technote 49481 ? - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: SMC-3 series b: compressor is pulsing i have a switch cabinet for a heat pump with two compressors, I want to test it with a smaller compressor, but the smc-3 is pulsing the compressor for ca 1 minute befor continuous operation. what can I do that the start is not pulsing? using a zh21ke-tfd-524 compressor with:LRA: 27-33I-Block: 35I-oper: 7 smc-3 setting: FLA :20on-Dip: 2,3,5,11,15,16 ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 40356... also this other thread if applicable... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: CS3000 Software Does anyone know where I can get CS3000 software? ### Assistant: Try to see at the following link for CS3000 software download: http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/d2916.htm edit: updated download link http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/CS3000.zip - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: problem writing a value to pf700 using datalinks I have setup parameter 152, Droop RPM @ FLA, as a datalink so I can write a value this parameter from a controllogix L61 plc. I have the datalink defined by setting parameter 301, Data In A2, to 152, and the parameter shows up as a tag in the plc. However, when I set the tag in the plc to a value, that value does not show up in the drive. The communications I am using is controlnet. I also have the 20-comm-c parameters 13,25,26 all set to 00001111 to enable datalinks A - C.The drive is receiving my speed reference and commands just fine, and I am receiving all the datalinks from the drive to the plc just fine. ### Assistant: Just a couple of notes trying to help: 1. verify you are writing a value that falls in the valid range for parameter.2. verify to have re-scheduled the Controlnet after inserting DataLinks in the RS5000 drive configuration3. As per Aid 56977, avoid to have other datalinks linked to read-only parameters. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Fault diagnostics I have smc-flex connected to some submersible airators, and I am getting a fault : FQ ### Assistant: The Fault codes are explained in the User Manual, chapter 8. There are also the following technotes, about the fault you've asked for: Aid 44746Aid 32251 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: SCM-FLEX wiring to e-stop safe-off system I have SCM-FLEX soft starts that are wired as per typical start-stop control via DPI communications with a control relay wired to aux ### Assistant: nan \n


### Human: PF 40P Speed Profiling Greetings, I have a customer looking to use a PF40P and encoder feedback for speed profiling. I have limited knowledge of encoders, but have learned that there are known noise issues with AB Encoders and VFDs. What Encoder would be recommended for use for this application, I'm assuming something from an Encompass Partner. Have a great day. Cheers. ### Assistant: nan \n


### Human: PF400 - F3 Power Loss I am currently using a PowerFlex 400 VFD (part number: 22C-D038A103 – 480VAC, 25HP). I am sometimes receiving Fault Code F3, Power Loss (DC bus voltage remained below 85% of nominal). Since the action specifies to “monitor the incoming AC line for low voltage or line power interruption” is there any documentation that quantifies low voltage? ### Assistant: Here from the User Manual - page A-3 F3 - Power Loss - FRN 5.03 and earlier only:The DC bus voltage fell below undervoltage level within 200 ms of a start command, DC bus ripple voltage is excessive, or an input phase loss has been detected. Power Loss Fault (F3) occurs if an undervoltage condition is present on drive power up, or if there is excessive DC bus ripple (for example a missing input phase) whilst the drive is running. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PowerFlex DC, Upload to PC How can I Upload drive Parameters/Configuration to my PC, I have available (RS Logix 5000, Drive executive lite, RS Linx classic lite). I have no serial port on PC, I'm using USB to Serial adaptor and null modem adaptor to communicate with Controller(LOGIX 5563). There are 2 PowerFlex DC drives connected to Controlnet module(1756-CNB) on controller. Ethernet through ControlNet?DPI directly to drive? Have no cable availableThrough backplane of controller via serial port? already connected ### Assistant: You may use the RSLogix5000, through the feature named Premier Drive Integration. When you're connected online to the Controller, you may go to the Controlnet PF DC and communicate with the drive. Involved in this are the versions of RSLogix 5000, PF DC AOP, etc... If you still cannot realize it, please post your RSLogix 5000 software, Drive Executive and RSLinx installed software versions and somebody will give other suggestions. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Powerflex 700 F20 We are using a Powerflex700 and keep getting a powertorque prv F20 alarm that doesn't seem to be listed in the manual - Anyone with any ideas would be appreciated. ### Assistant: It *is* listed in the User Manual, page 4-8 TorqPrv Spd Band - F20 Difference between [Commanded Speed] and [Encoder Speed] has exceeded the level set in [Spd Dev Band] for a time period greater than [Spd Band Integrat]. Actions: 1. Check wiring between drive and motor. 2. Check release of mechanical brake. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 1305 how do I program a 1305 to run on power up? I have set this parameter to enable - what else needs to be changed? ### Assistant: This applies only when there is a maintained input to the start and stop inputs. Refer to User Manual, Chapter 2, Figure 2.7 through Figure 2.10. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: SERCOS Card inquiry Is the Sercos card supposed to be installed where the Processor is at? or can it be placed in the Remote rack? ### Assistant: Motion Modules CANNOT be located in remote chassis See Aid 41712 for details. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PowerFlex 700 20-COMM_E Problem I have hooked up two PowerFlex 700 drives to a ControlLogix processor via a 1756-ENBT card. The drives are the only things that are on the network. The first drive connects but then faults out on a F75 (Port 5 Adapter) fault and the second drive will not connect because of a Code 16 ### Assistant: Both errors could happen due to a wrong connection size setting in RSLogix5000 IO configuration. See Aid 53820 and Aid 45272 (this is done for SMC-Flex, but applies also to a PF700)Follow carefully the configuration steps indicated in the 20-COMM-E User Manual. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Premier Integration and Flash Firmware Updates on Architecture Drives Greetings, I'm trying to understand better, when using the Logix 5000 Firmware Supervisor in Logix 5000 and it says that PF 70 and 700 drives are supported; does that mean just the comm card, or both the card and the drive. I would love some clarification on this. Cheers ### Assistant: Actually only the Drive firmware can be updated.Peripheral modules will be supported at a later time - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 1305 frequency The frequency on my 1305 always resets to 0 after a shutdown. Can I get it to resume to an existing frequency that it was when powered back up? ### Assistant: pat, I guess you're using the HMI to set your Frequency Command, by the Increment / Decrement arrows, right ? Then, cycling power to the drive will set the frequency command to the value stored in HIM memory. :smileysurprised: Pressing both keys simultaneously stores the current HIM frequency command in HIM memory. The Speed Indicator LEDs will flash momentarily to indicate a successful save (if speed is above 20 percent); so the next time you restart, you will start from that value... obviously it cannot be the same as it was before the drive was powered down, just a fixed starting frequency you may decide. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PF40 running lower voltage motors. Can I operate a 230vac motor on a 480vac PowerFlex 40? ### Assistant: I would also like to use a 230 VAC motor in a 480 VAC application. Is it possible to just set the nameplate info in P031 - P033 in a PowerFlex 4. \n


### Human: Ultra 3000i stops moving I have an ultra3000i transferring pallets that stops indexing and does not fault the drive it just sits still. Have tried thru panel view to manually adv or return no response. I have also had laptop connected to drive and tried thru index control. Monitor screen shows drive enabled and in motion but is not moving. Only way to recover is to cycle power to drive andit will function properly for sometimes several hours. any where to start diagnosing this? Thanks ### Assistant: Hmmm.... the fact the In Motion *lamp* is ON and motor doesn't move seems to indicate a problem in the logic control of the drive...IMO it should be repaired / replaced ... :smileysad: What about the other status infos and lamps in the Ultraware panel ? Try to enable more info using the Setup button,try to post again if you like, maybe others could help you more... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Tuning out the noise on 2098-dsd-010x I had two servo drives installed on the same machine to replace an air cylinder and a stepper motor assembly. The Servo Controllers are 2098-dsd-010x and they were connected to TLY A230THJ62AA series servo motors. With one servo motor installed and running everything ran perfect.When the second Servo controller and motor were installed I could see blips on the I/O connections to the SLC 5/04 PLC. The Vendor that was assisting us in this conversion tried a couple of things that didn't work and then made a phone call and came back and adjusted the tuning feature in the Ultraware Software program, which eliminated the blips on the I/O.I now have four more machines to convert and was hoping someone could point me to a technote or had some tips to offer on tuning these controllers to eliminate the noise so there are no hiccups or intermittent problems with the I/O. TIA Jim ### Assistant: Sounds like your vendor did a little hand waving... I haven't had any experiences (with any brand or model) such that motor tuning affected I/O cabling. Generally, these problems are associated with wiring routing, grounding/shielding termination or other basic installation practices that were skipped or installed poorly. All communication or intermittent I/O problems I have had, have always been traced to installation problem, or field failures (i.e. worn out cables etc.). Don't be supprised if the problem shows back up. \n


### Human: How to reset motion instruction error? For example, if MSO instruction's error bit has been set for some reson, how to reset or clear it in PLC without drive or PLC power recycle? ### Assistant: Please try to take a look first to the Motion Instructions Reference Manual - Chapter 1 (Motion Concepts) about the behavior of the .ER bit in motion instructions... Then, please post again if you have further questions... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 700S F129 We have two VSDs (PF 700S) that are configured for sugar centrifugals we are using here at our factory. Both applications run with and active regeneration units,(1336 R) which activate when slowing the centrifugal down after its high speed cycle. Both machines have been running well for approximately 8 months with no problems.Today for no reason one of the machines VSD stopped on a fault F ### Assistant: Hi, the Fault F129 *is* in the manual, page 4-11 ....:smileywink: It is just an indication that the Faults have been cleared... just check if F11 is an old indication or it maybe the cause of your stop... Anyway the Green status led just indicate the drive is ready to work ..., so right now no faults are present... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PF70ec DPI Comm loss fault 85 I have 8 Pf70ec drives connnected with 20-comm-e cards and one of the drives gives random a comm loss fault 85. Only one of the drives ever does this and it hasn't happened for about 2 months until today when it happened twice. All of the post I have read say this is uncommon for the comm-e card. So any suggestions would be great. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to this thread .... the problem could also happen on an Ethernet comm card, as this fault indicates that the main control board has lost communications with the 20-COMM-x... there are detailed explanations by Ken Roach about this fault. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Ultra 3000 hardwire enable I have been wondering if the hardwire enable on the 3000 should be used with the sercos enable command ? If we use the sercos, servo on as the enable command for the drives, should the hardwire enable on the breakout board be used or not or should we leave all control to the sercos loop. I encountered a drive in this condition that would occasionally make a humming sound as it was waiting for a start and when the hardwire enable was removed from drive config and the breakout board this humming went away. There are a few others that do the same thing but I haven't had a chance to get at them. Any knowledge on this condition would be appreciated. ### Assistant: It is possible to control the enable of the Ultra 3000 SERCOS drive without having to connect 24 volts to the Drive Enable input (pin 31) of the CN1 connector. Using Ultraware, the Digital Input 1 is used for Drive enable. If the input is changed to unassigned, the drive will be enabled on power up. There will be no need for an input to pin 31 to enable the drive.Be aware that, in this case, the motor could start moving on power up. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Powerflex 40 faliure after power cycle We have 46 5 hp powerflex 40 drives in our plant and have had little trouble until the other day. We had a scheduled power outage with the power company they disconnected all phases at on time but repowered us one phase at a time. after that we noticed we had 7 drives that did not power back up and are fed from the same line as ones that did. we checked voltage at the drive line input and is fine. we are at a loss as what and why this has happened. ### Assistant: Hi Red, Perhaps those drives have failed due to a problem with the switchmode power supply. On some early PF4 and PF40 drives there were some components that were affected by heat a bit more than we expected and this problem showed up. We have since improved the design. There is a knowledgebase document that describes the issue. It is document number 34911. Only certain models of PF4 and PF40 drives had this issue, and only up to a certain date. Drives manuafactured after October 2005 have the improved design. Please contact your distributor for more information about this. Linkified for convenience - JHutch \n


### Human: FlexPak 3000 Meter Out Signal Type I cannot find anywhere in any manual that I have looked at where it says what type of output the drive's Meter Out 1 & 2 are. Are they voltage? Current? Can we select which? They show that you can select what the analog outs are if you have the expansion board, but not the built in meter out (that I can find). ### Assistant: Here from the Power Module Instructoin Manual, page 2-6: Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: ultra3000 error e11 I've a ultra 3000 connected to motor N-2302 and when i tried to configurate the motor in the prgram the ultra 3000 change the status to E 11, I tried with different motors and iI got the same error. Could anybody help me with this situation. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 20629Aid 21807 (TechConnect Authorization required) Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 700S Simulated Encoder Output Looking at an application where a motor mounted encoder needs to go to the 700S (for drive/motor loop closure) and an M02AE card. Sure, you can parallel the signal and put a buffer/repeater module in. What would be nicer is if the 700S had a simulated encoder output module, like a Control Techniques drive. Anyone know of an addon module for this purpse? ### Assistant: Try Motrona encoder splitter. \n


### Human: Load sharing and back-up I am running two PF70EC VFDs to two motors (w/ encoders) driving a single drum and am wondering what is the best way to have them load share, also if for some reason one motor or VFD goes down the other will take over. Motor are large enough to easily handle the load individually, but we require redundancy for this project. I have seen several solutions on load sharing, but none of them seem to lend themselves to redundancy. ### Assistant: I would use the speed trim method shown in the document that you can download from the literature library. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/drives-wp001_-en-p.pdfFor the speed trim you would use the Process PI function in the drive and limit the output of the Process PI loop to 10% of nameplate rpm. If you have some kind of supervisor control, you can turn off the PI loop if the other drive faults. We have used this method for years with great success. It will take a little bit of work to set it up and tune it. Curt PlettEngineering ManagerSystems Interface Inc. \n


### Human: 1394C-SJT22-D sercos phase 3 ring fault I just installed a reconditioned 1394C-SJT22-D module and the sercos will not get past phase 3. The previous module was working when it was removed. I have double checked the baud rate switches. ### Assistant: Hi, just found an internal note explaining this as a possible mechanical assembly issue, reguarding the 1394 terminator not seated in the right position... in case I don't know if you can check for this or need to send it again to repair... :smileysad: Another possibility could be the firmware revision of the controller doesn't *match* revision of motion module; in case post again your revisions of Controller, Motion module and 1394C. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Powerflex 40 I have a power flex 40 which has power to it but no power on the screen and just 3 flashing amber lights Port, Mod and Com A. please help!!! ### Assistant: Perhaps those drives have failed due to a problem with the switchmode power supply.Take a look to Aid 34911 .... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PowerFlex DC Fram D 690V Document Hi, I see PF DC power rating has extension,but where can see the fram D document?Please help,thank's. ### Assistant: Can you post a little more information on what you're asking? \n


### Human: Lost all axisname.AbsoluteReferenceStatus bits A four axis 1769-L43 with SERCOS based has been working fine for almost a year. All motors are MPL with multi-turn absolute encoders Then one morning all axisname.AbsoluteReferenceStatus bits were off. The encoders were still reading the correct value. Just moved the axis to the absolute home position using motion direct command and performed a MAH using motion direct commands. WHat can cause the system to loose all axisname.AbsoluteReferenceStatus bits at the same time? ### Assistant: Just trying to help, as I'm not an expert on this :smileytongue: Aid 47351 reports the cases where the bit is either set or reset. After that, you may consider three cases where a problem could be in the code: 1. MAH (Motion Axis Home) repeated more than once in code, thus resetting the absolute position reference. 2. MRP (Motion Redefine Position) repeated more than once in code, thus resetting the absolute position reference. 3. Changing from Linear to Rotary mode within the code. Double check if you're in one of these cases, then take the appropriate actions to solve. If you are not in those cases, please post again so that other folks here will have the possibility to help you more.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Motion Analyzer V4.7 Where can I download JCalculator.exe?I have been having trouble launching from within the Crank V2.6.2 advanced template.First, I had issues (ref AID 62312)Reloaded V4.7 per AID 62312 and now Jcalculator is missing from UDAT folder. ### Assistant: Could it be the one in the LINK ? :smileysurprised: It is the only one I've found.... :smileytongue: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Kinetix 6000 Alarm Handling Hey there, I just wanted to know is there a quick way to display an error if it occurs from a kinetix 6000 3 axis system on a panelview plus 1000. The only way i can see this is by taking the fault code and looking for each fault code then push a value into a dint, then this value will display the alarm on screen after i've entered the text for it, surely theres a quicker way. Any thoughts? Regards,J ### Assistant: I may see your way as the only one possible, too. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: MAH process complete bit I am trying to get the .pc bit to come on at the end of the MAH instruction and I'm not having any luck. I am building a machine that packages line so I have a line feed axis and a rotary axis that is operated on a cam profile. For homing I do a MAS to stop the rotary axis then a MSF, then an MSO, then a MAH to a switch. The axis homes, but the .pc bit never comes on. Can anyone help me? ### Assistant: A similar behavior is explained inside Aid 22214... try to see if it is your case. TechConnect Authorization needed to see that technote.... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Help I'm ac drive dumb. I have a 1305 AA12A HA1 If I have a 220 single phase input...will the output be 3 phase? I realize how silly that may sound but none of the literature I've read confirms yes or no. can I operate a 1hp 3 phase ac motor using 1phase 220? ### Assistant: Even though that drive will take a single-phase input, it has a 3-phase output so is designed to operate with 3-phase motors. The drive output power is derated; the table below will show you the output current and power available to your drive if it is powered by 1 ph. line. Just check to fall inside the indicated values with your motor. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Continous Motion Control I have a system that uses Kinetix 6000 drives to control servo motors for positioning. I was wanting to know if there is a way to use a continous move command that will follow a setpoint from a feedback device. So if the signal goes positive the servos will go forward and if the signal goes negative the servos reverse. I can only see motion commands that exucute once, not one that is continous. Is there a way to do this? ### Assistant: Others have asked similar questions. Some options you can consider:- 1.Set the absolute posiiton of the servo to zero at its mid so that it can swing positive and negative (a home routine would be required on power up)Scale your PID output to correspond to absolute position.Every time your PID block is done - just execute an absolute MAM (just ensure you are't doing this too quick an update).Note - it doesn't matter if there's no new position to go to - if the servo is alreadt at the destination - it will go no where with a new absolute MAM to the same place. 2. If you want to do something with incremental moves instead, just periodically refresh an MAM instruction at a chosen rate again. \n


### Human: F100 on 4M When I was setting the communication parameters on one of the 4M drives (through the keypad), and after cycling power on the 480AC line to the drives, 1 off the drives was showing F100. (Parameter Checksum Fault). Forcing me to reset all parameters back to default, and then reenter them. What causes this fault! (or better, how can we avoid this). I don’t want my customer to have to do this, but remember having similar checksum problems on a GV300 systems years back. In that case the drives were on a DC bus and Rockwell claimed the problem was that the bus voltage dropped to quick.These drives are not on a DC bus.Guys, any thoughts here would be awsome! ### Assistant: Unfortunately it isn't documented a probable cause for this fault, just it is indicated to Restore Default Parameters and retry...It could be a random and false checksum error, but if it often reappears, then it is a true checksum fault and the drive will need to be replaced. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Safe off Status Hey, I have a K6k system with 6 drives, i've just powered up to tune/hookup etc. but i cannot enable the drive, power wiring is ok all my indicators are ok but the safe off status is on even though i have the motion allowed header in place. so i end up getting the 'Drive locally disabled' message. Anyone with any thoughts? RegardsJ ### Assistant: Hi John, first i've to say I'm not an expert on that...anyway, trying to help.... :smileywink: Some technotes report the needs to use the Motion Allowed Header to be sure tha safe-off circuitry is ok...you wrote it is in place.... hmmmm.... Take a look to Aid 40557 and then Aid 36752 and see if they help.... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: the replacement for 2094-BM02 Our system is using 2094-BM02. Now, 2094-BM02 was broken. Can we replace 2094-BM02 by 2094-BM02-S ? Do we need to change anything in program of Controllogix ?Please help to advise detailedly the difereence between 2094-BM02 and 2094-BM02-S ### Assistant: 2094-BMxx drives without safe off are Silver Series products. The –S (Safe-Off) Kinetix 6000 is a direct drop in replacement; the Kinetix 6000 drive firmware is the SAME for safe off or non safe. So, as far as I know, you may replace it without changes in ControlLogix program.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: scanport to 700 drive We are replacing a 1336 plus drive with a powerflex 700 standard control I can find the information that tells what you need to do to accomplish this, except for the information that tells you what bits to use for control and speed reference does anyone know where to find this information? ### Assistant: May you please post more details ? Which is the scanport device do you want to use ? For example, here a couple of technotes about some scanport conversions... Aid 21565Aid 43077 HERE also some infos about conversion.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Allen-Bradley Power Flex 4 I was involved in a project that required three conveyors to run at the same speed and the engineer suggested that we connect three motors in parallel, connected to an A-B PowerFlex 4. When we tried to run the drive it acted very strange. Two of the motors were rated at .8 amps and the third was rated at 1.4 amps. If we connected only one of the motors it would run just fine. Is it possible to connect three motors to one drive? Thanks, Dan G ### Assistant: Yes it is possible, with the following provisions: 1. Motors all the same size ( matched impedances )2. VSD drive size = load motors + 13. Output choke used ( same rating as the drive )4. Separate overloads to each motor ( no bimetals ) 140M units are ok5. set VSD for standard v/Hz ( no auto tuning )6. Keep total cable lengths to under 100 metres I would say that the reflected waves from each of the motors is screwing up the drive. The output choke should solve this. \n


### Human: Re-tune Some one know where I can get info about a detailed description of tuning procedures?I need to understand when I need to make a new tune to my system. Or if I need to adjust some values or gains.I have some problems with loose position, torque over limits and some noises. ### Assistant: Here following a list of useful technotes and manuals.... search for Tuning inside the .pdf Kinetix 6000 Multi-axis Servo Drives User ManualMotion Modules in Logix5000 Control SystemsAid 24152 - Motion Control Tuning BasicsAid 24665 - Advanced Motion Tuning PowerpointAid 24463 - Autotuning a SERCOS driveAid 58167 - A simple guide to tuning a sercos servo axis TechConnect Authorization required to access the Technotes.... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: SMC-3 control terminal question I have a really basic question on some new SMC-3 (150-C16NBD) softstarts I am installing: How are IN1 & IN2 used? I dont understand how they work or what they are. The datasheet does not say. Thanks! Jeff ### Assistant: See the following technotes... Aid 62695 - Aid 62696 - Aid 24364 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Gearing status Hi everyone, Does anyone know if there a status bit present in the motion, indicating that no other axis is geared to this axis?Because homing a master axis with a slave still geared to it makes the slave axis do unexpected movements... If such a status bit does not exist, is it something for the development team to incorporate this? Best regards,Cee Ya ### Assistant: There isn't a bit available to do what you wish. You'll have to check all the GEARING STATUS (or POSITION CAM STATUS) bits of all the possible slaves of your master to be sure they're off before issuing the home routine. \n


### Human: 22- COMM-E and Drive Explorer I have used the 22-comm-e with powerflex40's and never had a problem. THis time I am using powerflex4's with a 22-comm-e and an 22-xcomm base (for housing the 22-comm-e) and I am going use multiple drive mode. Where I am currently stuck is that I cannot get into the 22-comm-e with drive explorer. I gives me some sort of error about text family not recognized. I am using ethernet to access the comm-3 parameters. Any ideas? Is it the x-comm htat's screwing me up? Do I need and add on. It says that I need to set these parameters initial before powering the drives. I just don't get it because I have accessed these before except they were always installed ina drive instead of the 22-xcomm.ANy help is appreciated ### Assistant: As far as I can remember, you have to follow these steps: 1. Set the 22-COMM to Multi-Drive2. connect to it only one drive3. access the drive (using the embedded HIM) and set the communication parameters (see image below - leave A104 to node 100)4. cycle power to the drive Now, the 22-Comm should be accessible by Drive Explorer. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: i need a catalouge for Drives Reliance Maxitron 8500 i need english manual for DC drive Reliance Maxitron S-6R 8506 ### Assistant: Unfortunately I'm unable to find it... just found the one for Maxitron 8000 I suggest to try to call in Technical Support at Rockwell Automation or directly Baldor, to ask for it. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: error 717-80030003 the path %1 could not be found in rslogix 5000 Has any one ever gotten this message when using RSLogix 5000 Pro?and opening a *.ACD project file? I'm running Windows 2000 and logged on as an administrator. Versions 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 are all installed on this computer. I used to be able to read all these files but since Version 17 was installed I can only read Version 17 Stuff. Any help would be appreciated. ### Assistant: I'm aware this could happen when you've not the needed version to open that file, installed on PC... it is not so good because a warning about the need to install the correct version should be there, instead the strange error message. :smileysad: Your situation is different, you wrote you've many versions installed on the PC... are you sure you've also the one for that file to open ? Did you try to open a sample program (there are many on installation cd of every version)of a version different than 17 ? Same error ? - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 22-COMM-E 1.007 Database error? I'm modifying a program that exists on a site and that I didn't create. When I click on a powerflex properties, I get the attached error. Note that this is referring to the COMM-E adapter, not the powerflex firmware. If you click on the 'Drive' tab of the Powerflex properties box, you get access to the drive parameters and the 22-COMM-E setup. Here it will tell you what it is 'Port: 1 Revision : 1.004' for example.Question is two fold:-Where can I get what ever I need to fix the 'database' error message that gets displayed (couldn't find a 1.007 EDS file for RSLinx).If I leave it as it is (defaulted back to 1.006), is this going to cause me grief when I try and download this when I get to the site (New Years day!) ### Assistant: Hmmmm... never seen this warning.... :smileysurprised: I've read the 1.007 release notes and thinking there aren't too relevant differences between this version and 1.006, so if you can go online with drive and Comm card, I think you'll not find problems.Looking at Drives Support web site, I can see there isn't an update available to the RS5000 Drive database for version 1.007 of the COMM-E... ..... so I may suggest to try to Create Drive Database using the procedure inside Aid 50684. Here isn't matter of EDS files, just the needed drive database version for the Premier Drive Integration isn't yet available inside your RS5000. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: HIM Chinese Display Support in PowerFlex70/700 Does PowerFlex70/700 support Chinese display while using 20-HIM-A6 (Firmware V1.006, EN&CH version Flash)? ### Assistant: The text string the Enhanced HIM will display come from the host device (PF70/700) and in those drives the Chinese language isn’t yet supported.So, you’ll be able to select the Chinese language on your HIM, but you will only see its system texts in that language… all the other strings coming from the drive will be shown using its selected language. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: how to select the powerflex drive when you get an application like 3ph, 600v, 2hp, what will be based on to choose powerflex 40 or powerflex 70(for example), why?sometimes, design engineer chose the powerflex40 not 70, however, I found 70 also is okay to handle the current, frequency, and torque, tons of thx to whoever can give me a boost. ### Assistant: Hi there, For me, I think the powerflex40 is smaller than the 70's series. So for the same application you can win frame space ...? you have this choice for 0.37 to 11kW. \n


### Human: PANEL VIEW TO ULTRA 3000i WE HAVE SOME ULTRA 3000i SERVO DRIVES CONTROLLED WITH A QUARTECH TERMINALS, IN THE SAME MACHINE WE HAVE A SLC-5/04 WITH A STANDARD PANEL VIEW 1000, CAN WE USE THESE FOR CONTROL THE ULTRA 3000i AND REMOVE THE QUARTECH TERMINAL? ### Assistant: You may send commands to Ultra 3000 using Host Commands from the SLC serial port.RS-232 port should be configured to use ASCII. The host language is not so easy to use from inside a PLC...you may need to spend long time to write the host protocol logic. :smileysad:The host protocol is used easier from inside UltraWare, and also used by operator interfaces from Quartech like you had, but is difficult to use from the serial port of an SLC. Using the DeviceNet version of the Ultra 3000i, you might realize the communication easier, through an SLC Devicenet scanner 1747-SDN. Anyway there are some docs and an example for SLC controller... Aid 22657 contains all this stuff. Be aware it is a TechConnect users reserved document... if you cannot get it, please send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, I'll send you back some docs...Take also a look to the Host Command Reference Manual. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: How to send an ASCII/telnet command to a IP device by RSLogix 500 Hello, I have a ML1400 and I need to access the data of a Omega device through a Ethernet Network. This Omega device is a coordinator that handles wireless data transmission from a 0-20mA device. You can use a Telnet programs to access the data using ASCII commands. (example; send command ERDG00A and the device response with 0 120 24 3,45 mA 4 V. Indicating nº of device, sequence, channel 1, unit, channel 2, unit.) The Omega device, a PC and the ML 1400 are connected to a network, and have an IP address that is in the same range. I want to know if the MSG commands works for this, and How can I configure this instruction? or What command can I use to request data from the PLC to the Omega device? Thanks and Regards. ### Assistant: Never done something like this, but I'm quite sure the only way is through Open Socket features. See Chapter 23 Socket Interface Using CIP Generic Messaging in MicroLogix 1400 Reference Manual. Unfortunately I've not found examples about that, just something about the -EWEB module of CLX, which uses similar manner to communicate through Open Sockets over Ethernet....In case, take a look to the following technotes for reference: Aid 33240 - Aid 32962 - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Auto-tune a 1336+II powering two identical motors Hi! We're using a 1336+II on an overhead crane and we'd like to autotune it. We understand we need to disconnect the load, but can we autotune with both motors connected or do we need to autotune each motor individually? Thanks Patrick ### Assistant: As far as I know, using autotune and vector control with multiple motors isn't a good practise, more than one motor connected will give wrong data to the drive and cause the control to output less than optimum currents to the motor. With multiple motors, volts per hertz mode is recommended. I suggest also to take a look to this document, it is quite old and prepared for the 1336 Plus, but I think it could help anyway. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Changing Axis From Position to Torque Mode I'm working on an application that requires the axis to be configured initally as position then changed by the controller program to torque mode. The system is compact logix with Ultra 3000 Sercos. Thanks ### Assistant: Try to see if Aid 42101 and Aid 44359 could help... Take also a look to the User Manual, App. C for all the Axis Attributes. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 3600 RPM Motor on VFD? I have an application where I need to run a pump at 2400 RPM to achieve the desired pressure. I currently have a 20HP 1800 RPM motor running at 70 Hz. (2000 RPM)I cannot increase the speed (Hz) more or my drive trips on OL.I am looking at increasing the motor HP and Drive size and/or changing the motor to 3600 RPM.Has anyone ran a 3600 RPM motor on a Powerflex at 45Hz or so? We have considered changing the pump, but that requires a larger motor, Powerflex Drive and cable anyway.I am looking at the above approach to avoid the pump purchase. Any Thoughts? ### Assistant: Cygnusx1, when a motor goes above it's base speed, in your case 1800RPM, the torque will begin to drop off as the speed is increased. See the formula and torque curve below:HP = TN 63,000Where, T = Torque (in-lb) N = Speed (RPM) As the motor speed goes up (N), the torque has to go down to maintain constant HP. To go to 2400RPM, you will have to run at 80Hz. Your torque will drop off considerably. If you go to a 3600RPM motor, you will be in the constant torque area of the torque curve for you full range and you will be running at 40Hz. If you use an inverter duty motor you shouldn't have a problem. \n


### Human: Powerflex 700S Settings I am trying to configure a Powerflex 700S to control my MPG-B010-091, and in the back of the users manual I have found the proper nameplate data to use for this motor/gearbox combo, my question is, what is the resolution of the encoder on the MPG-B010-091. I have the Stegmann Hi-Resolution Encoder Feedback Option with my drive, this would be another question, is this a secondary encoder or if not how does the drive know that this is the one that I want to use. ### Assistant: Duplicated Topic... here the other one... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Drives/thread-id/1641 - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PF400 Analog Output not linear with Output Freq. Hi all,I have this problem regarding the linearity of my Analog Output in correspond to the Output Frequency.. this is a Power flex 400, Setting as Follows:Min Freq: 20Hz (parameter 34)Max Freq: 45Hz (Parameter 35)Parameter 82 set to 0 ( VFD analog output req. 0-10V)- Everything is running fine I can command the speed via a third party PLC via 0-10V Analog signal, the commanded voltage is in linearity with the Output Frequency, But the output frequency cannot.. anything I miss out. please help. Gnix ### Assistant: Looking at the User Manual, if parameter T082 is configured to 0 - OutFreq 0-10, the corresponding minimum output value is 0 volt at 0 Hz. Try to configure it to 21 - MinFreq 0-10 so that your Min Freq corresponds to 0 volts at Analog Out. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: SMC-3 fluctuating output but no fault.. help plz dear sir, we have a problem regarding our SMC-3 Softstarters. when we start the unit, the motor start running about 1 sec then turns off for 1 sec then start again. the output voltage of the smc is fluctuating. we use a 2 wire control connection for testing and also the defult dip switch settings. there is no fault indicated. it just in run mode but the motor keeps turn on and off like oscillating.. please help us. thanks. ### Assistant: Please review first the following technote, to see if it applies to your case. http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/40356 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: DriveLogix Expansion Module Does the 20D-DL2-LEB0, DriveLogix Expansion Board have the integrated Ethernet, does it just have a serial connection? ### Assistant: The Expansion Board gives to DriveLogix the possibility to use some communication options: Compact Flash cardCompact I/O connectionNetlinx communication doughtercards (like Ethernet/IP) All of the above should be separately purchased. The Serial Port isn't on this expansion board, it is allocated into the DriveLogix. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Communicating to Powerflex 70 through RSLogix 5000 I have an Allen Bradley Workstation with a contrologix 5000. I have a powerflex 70 drive connected through teh devicenet. How do i set up communication to the powerflex from the RSLogix 5000 software? Please guide me. ### Assistant: Please have a look to the 20-COMM-D User Manual, there are many useful informations and examples to configure this communication. After that, if you still have doubts, please post again, so that somebody will be able to give you specific help on that. :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: powerflex 400 drive communication to a CompctLogix Controller Good Morning, Can the powerflex 400 drive communicate over Ethernet? If so which comm module do I use? What other communication options does the drive support? ### Assistant: Yes, it can be controlled over Ethernet/IP using a 22-COMM-E module. HERE a list of Communication Adapters to be used with PF4x drives. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: IAB question - multiple drives Is there a way to copy devices in IAB? I configured a PF700 DeviceNet drive in IAB. My application has 25 drives. I really don't want to configure each of them separately. I have not found a way to copy. Does anyone know if this can be done or if there is a work around? Thanks! ### Assistant: It depends on what you've to copy...:smileytongue: If you want the same catalogue number, then right click on the configured drive and the select Duplicate Device...you will have a copy of the same product on the network; after that you may change the configuration if you need, always right click on it and select Configure, to change for example the Current Rating or other options. The Devicenet properties of the drive( position over the network, address, cables etc.) are insted left to default when copied, so unfortunately you've to select every drive and change as needed. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PROBLEM WITH INVERTER POWERFLEX 40 I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SIX INVERTERS POWERFLEX 40, THE INVERTERS SWITCHED OFF AND DID NOT SWITCHED ON NEVER AGAIN, AND I NEED TO REPAIR PLEASE SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME TO IDENTIFY DE PROBLEM ### Assistant: Looks like the switch mode power supply has gone....... see tech note 34911 on the knowledge base \n


### Human: PF40 vs. PF40P Had some new equipment installed in our facility. It came with several PowerFlex 40 drives which we have many of in the plant. But, it also came with one PowerFlex 40P. Anyone have a very short list of the differences between the PF40 and the PF40P? Thanks. ### Assistant: Very short side-to-side compare is inside Selection Guide, pag.11 Otherwise, here more detailed infos for PF40 and PF40P Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: CIP Motion The reaction I've gotten from folks who attended '09 Automation Fair has been great excitement about the introduction of CIP Motion into a number of automation products; Logix, drives and maybe others. I was given an ODVA brochure, which I'm including here. What it describes does indeed sound exciting. One of my local automation specialists explained that the CLX motion instructions (all or some) can be targeted directly at the PowerFlex 755 drive upon the release of Logix v18. This combination will (they say) provide sub millisecond jitter and a highly responsive motion loop. That would eliminate a big, expensive piece in the middle for lightweight motion apps. It's still unclear to me whether a physical encoder would be required, or if an AC drive's flux vector hocus pocus could substitute in applications that can allow a bit of slop. I can think of a bunch of retrofit applications for such a thing. Undoubtedly, others who attended have better information than me. I'd be interested in it if you do. I believe this attached ODVA document is intended for redistribution. ### Assistant: At first sight this looks good, but also think about this:There is no sercos card anymore. The procesing power from this card must now be done by the PLC. Can the current series handle it, ore do we need to wait for the L7x series? (V18 supports the L73)The number of ethernet ip packets increases. How many drives can be controlled through a standard ENBT or EN2T card? Do we need special switches (IGMP snooping / multicasting)?Does CIP motion handle gearing between drives in different racks?Does CIP motion handle gearing between drives handled by different CPU's (on the same ethernet)? (as replacement for the SYNCHLINK)Have a nice weekendCee Ya \n


### Human: Can I use one PF700H to control two motors Hi,I have two grinding machines with two identical motors 160 kw (380VAC). I've a problem in the original 2 drives and can't use them anymore. In the same time there is one spare PF700H 400 kw (cat. no. 20CC730). The two machines will use the same raw material at the same conditions with same motor speed. Can I use one PF700H to drive the two motors in the same time. ### Assistant: Short answer could be YES, just check inside Aid 42151 for some suggestions on this application. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Log of faults is not updating I have a system with kinetix 6000 and Controllogix, but in the feedback structure for each drive in the processor is not updating the log when a fault happens. What could be the problem?, how do i solve it?. ### Assistant: What type of fault are you getting (can you see a flashing 'E' followed by 1 or more digits on the Kinetix)? Is the Sercos ring still at stage '4', or has the Sercos ring been dropped. An E38 means you've lost the ring at the drive, and anything less than a '4' means trouble too with respect to the Sercos phase boot. Does the rest of the Axis structure update (can you push a motor round and see its position change correctly. The Kinetix firmware has grown since it was first released, and a significant number of faults added that display 'E' numbers, but don't give anything back via the axis data structure. If you go here to the sample code download page SampleCode and search for Kinetix, you will find some examples that provide code to retrieve the E number from the Kinetix and also faceplate's for a PanelView. These are all open (not locked in any way), so that you can see how it is all done and modify tweak to suit your own needs. These samples use MSGs using 'Sercos IDN Messaging' to retrieve data over the Sercos, and there is a Rockwell derived Add On Instruction AOI that manipulates the date and derives the Error faults to correspond with the E number flashing. Hope this helps \n


### Human: PowerFlex DC Speed Regulator and Currrent regulator update rates Hi Everyone Can anyone give me the value for loop update rates for PowerFlex DC.I just need to consider the drive response for an application. Thanks in advance ### Assistant: Did you already have a look to the User Manual - App.A-3 ? Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 1336 Plus II - Can't clear overcurrent fault (12) I have a 1336 Plus II drive that is tripped on overcurrent fault (12) and I can't reset this fault. I have tried resetting with and without the motor leads conected to the drive.I have tried downloading the parameters to the driveI have recycled the powerI have tried resetting from both HIM's and from a PC connected to the drive. Something that I've noticed is that the Drive Alarm 1 (60) bit 0 - Bus Charging remains on all the time. I'm not sure if that is normal or not. I attached the drive parameter file for your reference.Any help would be apreciated. EL ### Assistant: Aid 38940 gives a list of possible causes for F12 Overcurrent fault... many of them are related to the motor, so trying without the motor connected should reset the fault (I've understood you've already tried this without success....)Try first to reset the drive to Factory Default (menu Mode EEPROM), cycle power and see if fault disappear (without the motor connected)... if not, then I think the drive should be sent to repair... :smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Motors failing. Does anyone know why motors are failing? I have two motors attached to a flex 4. One motor is attached as T1, T2, T3 (forward motion) and the other motor is attached as T1, T3, T2(reverse). The motors that are running in reverse keep failing. When the motors were attached to a regular contactor, the motors ran fine (no issues). As soon as they were attached to the Flex 4, the motors began to fail. Any ideas? ### Assistant: If both motors are attached to the same drive... you have so much artifact,ringing,mismatch flying back and forth your lucky the whole room isnt full of smoke. are the motors inverter rated at least? \n


### Human: PF 700 Minumum Load Does anyone know what the minimum load is that you can put on a particular drive? For example, where in the documentation does it tell me that I can/can't run a 50A load on a 100A rated drive. ### Assistant: The best performance will always be when the drive has the same current rating as the motor.Matching drives and motors closely also removes the need to adjust the Current Limit parameter, which is normally related to drive rated amps. As a general rule, the drive rated amps can be up to 200% (2 times) the FLA of the motor. If the mismatch is more than 200%, the drive may not be able to control output current correctly. This is due to the internal CT's only measuring current over a small amount of their overall range. [Reference Aid 51640] Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Latest Kinetix Firmware 1.116 help Rockwell published this firmware a couple of weeks ago. As of version 1.114 they added remote control of the brake control relay when the drive is disabled. This is from the release notes- This enhancement corresponds to Kinetix 6000 drive firmware revision 1.114 or later, when used with RSLogix 5000 software, version 17. When the drive is in the disabled state, the engagement and disengagement of the motor parking brake, if present, can be manually controlled. By setting the Brake Override IDN (16 bit, P00140) to a value of 1, the SERCOS Brake Enable/Disable IDN becomes writable and allows manual control of the motor parking brake. Once the drive is enabled, the Brake Override IDN is reset to 0, the parking brake is again under control of the axis, and the Brake Enable/Disable IDN becomes read-only, reflecting the current state of the parking brake. This description give you the new P00140 parameter and what it does but, what parameter do i write to, to control the brake? I think P00528 but this is just a guess based on the DriveExecutive file looking at the parameters in the Kinetix. Also what does it mean by disabled state? does the enable input need to be off (Axis.EnableInputStatus=0) or just logically disabled (Axis.DriveEnableStatus=0?) I think that a technote should be written that explains most of this and maybe even has a some sample code that could be used. -Paul ### Assistant: I guess this is like a self help forum. No rockwell employees surf their own forum? \n


### Human: MPL Motor Encoder - Multi turn vs. Single turn We utilize the Hi-Res (2,000,000 counts) MPL motors in our facility. We have both the -S and -M feedback types in use. Occasionally a multi turn will be inadvertently replaced with a single turn (and vice versa) and when power is re-applied to the drive it comes up with a motor attribute fault, as it should. The issue arises when the electrician does not kill control power to the drive, just the high voltage. He then replaces the motor and re-applies the high voltage. The SERCOS ring never re-initializes and therefore the new motor data is not sent to the drive. We are looking into one possible solution of replacing all the singles with multis (or vice versa). My question: What is the benefit of using one over the other? They both provide high resolution absolute position feedback so I don't fully understand the difference. ### Assistant: The Single-turn and Multi-turn behave just the same, unless you are removing control power from the drive The Single-turn is limited in it's ability to report the actual position to within only one turn of the Encoder.It cannot report outside of one turn when drive's control power is reapplied. Multi-turn encoder provides high-resolution absolute position feedback within 4096 turns. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Powerflex 40 fault code f071 Help me: I have changed a Powerflex 40 5 hp, when I try to energize after 20 seconds (more or less) F071 appears ### Assistant: Here following some notes from User Manual , Troubleshooting section: Please review also the following technotes: Aid 43233 - Aid 48391 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Product offering for replacing a 1388-AV60 What product does RA offer to replace an existing 1388-AV60 ### Assistant: PowerFlex 20P is a DC drive but I could not find a clear cut document that shows how to intergrate it in place of the 1388-AV60. The manual for the 20P can be found in the literature library. You can read the manual and check your drawings to see if it will work for your application. -Paul \n


### Human: powerflex 700 input We bought a powerflex 700 drive to a US reseller and they confirm us that it is possible to plug it with 3-phase or single phase on input. We try on the French electrical communication (220-240V single phase) but it blows the fuses of our place. Note that the drive works well if we plug it on an isolating transformer. What is the answer to plug it directly? ### Assistant: I suggest to take a look to the User Manual. Starting at page 1-7 Single-Phase Input Power is explained.Starting at page 1-14 MOVs and Common Mode Capacitors are explained.Starting at page A-9 Fuse Rating is explained. After checked through the above, please post again if you still have problems. :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Faulty Drive / Faulty Kinetix Hello,1. Is it possible for a faulty servo motor to make a kinetix go bad and vice versa? 2. If a kinetix unit does not come up again what could possibly have gone wrong. regards, K. ### Assistant: Duplicated thread... the one in the correct board is HERE.... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 1336 Plus Overvoltage Fault only in the Forward Direction. I have never seen this before, but I am getting a high bus voltage only when the drive is running in the Forward Direction. In reverse, the bus voltage is only 670- 680. In forward, the bus voltage runs up over 800 and then trips. I have tried changing the Decel rate and there is already a braking resistor on the drive. Does anyone have any suggestions on this problem? Can I do something to fix this or do I need to change the drive? ### Assistant: Overvoltage faults are caused by the load decelerating too fast, this causes the motor to become a generator and hence the DC bus has to absorb the extra energy. You can extend the deceleration or add larger resitors. The drive is operating as designed \n


### Human: Motion fail Hi everyone, I have a problem with my SERCOS ring. Does anyone have an idea why my SERCOS module goes to fault when my machine stops? I have three nodes the first one with 7 drives, the second one with 7 and the third one with 3. No error message is shown in the drives, but the servos do not run when we try to start the machine again. What I am doing is to reset the Kinetix system (6000) and it starts normally. Any help? Thanks ### Assistant: Hi Fraviere, I've no idea at the moment, but may have with a little more info. Does you sercos ring reboot (goes through the 1, 2, 3, 4 cycle sequence), or do you see an Error code displayed on one of the amplifiers (this would be an 'E' follwoed by maybe another one or two digits? You say your Sercos module goes into fault (what exactly is the fault indication), and you have 3 nodes - though I assume you mean 3 backplanes with a total of 17 axis? If this the case, how many sercos cards do you have ( 3 x 1756-M08's etc?). So quick summary:- 1). Sercos totally réboots going through sequence 1, 2, 3, 4 on each axis; yes or no2). All sercos cards stay healthy with solid green indicators; yes or no3). Any Error messages displayed on any specific axis?4). Firmware of the ControlLogix, and of the amplifiers - you can get this from RSLinx.5). Exact type & No. of Sercos cards?6). Is this a recent issue, or always been present? \n


### Human: Convert program file to source file of ultra 5000 drive Hello, I only have a program file .exe of ultra 5000 drive.Is there a way I can see the program to troubleshooting ,to convert program flie to source file .c or header file .h? Thanks ### Assistant: Unfortunately, there isn't a decompiler to convert an executable file built using Ultraware... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: PowerFlex 40 with Safe Module gives 111 Error Replaced both the drive and Safe Option Module seperately. Still get the error. What else can cause this error? ### Assistant: Please have a look to the firmware version of your PF40P, version prior to 2.01 could have these problem... If the firmware is ok, then review the following table: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Power Flex 40 - Device Net Adapter Problem The MOD LED is blinking red. The drive is not used in Multi Drive mode.The drive was working before around 100 hours then not used just staying in the cabinet as spare. HMI was sending speed and Run/Stop parameters, but no motor was connected to it. Wiring of the Device Net is ok.There was no error on the drive. I cycled power and nothing changed. I also reset to default values and nothing happened. I also got some warnings when resolving device mismatch. I never saw this message before. I attached a screen cut width the warning.The module was moved to another Power flex and still having the problem width the module. If I browse the network width RsNetWorks, then the module is shoved active, but on the device net scanner I have Error 83 for that node address. Flashing the adapter with the latest firmware release, I saw is not possible on field.- My question is what I could do to recover that drive- And second what could happened, in order that I prevent it in the future. ### Assistant: Hi enguson, and welcome to the Forum ! :smileyhappy: First, the MOD led... as you may already have seen in the User Manual, this is the meaning:The adapter has failed the firmware test, connected drive is faulted, or a drive is missing in Multi-Drive mode. Excluding second and third possibilities, as per your indication, only a firmware problem remains.Here some tests, also from troubleshooting chapter:If cycling power does not correct the problem, the parameter settings may have been corrupted. Reset defaults and reconfigure the module. If resetting defaults does not correct the problem, flash the adapter with the latest firmware release. The firmware of the communication adapter *can* be upgraded in the field, HERE the website with the firmware and instructions. About the scanner error 83...Slave device is returning error responses when module attempts to communicate with it (node number alternately flashes).Check accuracy of scan list table entry. Check slave device configuration. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Linetix In looking at the web stuff from the recent Automation Fair there was a reference to Linetix 300 EtherNet/IP Indexing Servo Drives. Searching the rest of the Rockwell Automation site there were no references to this. What is it? There was also a reference to Kinetix 6500 EtherNet/IP Servo Drives. This gets some hits but nothing useful. A press release notes it used Ethernet/IP instead of Sercos but little more. It also shows up in sales literature for other products. What is it? ### Assistant: Some highlights of these products you're asking for: Kinetix 300 will be a standalone servo drive with Ethernet/IP interface for simple point-to-point motion, there will be an AOP for Logix for easy commissioning, configuration, and start up... it will also have a Safe Torque off feature; it will also provide on drive Web-based tools for Drive configuration and Tuning.Availability should be December 2009 / January 2010 Kinetix 6500 will integrate the Motion over Ethernet/IP (CIP Motion) with also Enhanced Safety and Safe Off features; it will have modular power and control design.Availability should be during 2010. Both products will need RSLogix 5000 v18. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Random noise faults I have a K2K/ControlLogix system with 7 1510V motors that I keep getting random and sporadic E64 and E07 faults jumping around on various axis. I have verified grounding, shielding and seperated the wiring as much as possible. There are no contactors or anything of the such that would be generating spikes and I've had a power analyzer put on the incoming power to ensure that there are no issues. I saw a tech note that certain motorshad issues with a 5V short in the encoders that would do this but these motors do not fall into that category. Help.......please? ### Assistant: Are the feedback cable connectors factory made at both ends, or have they been terminated into the big silver connectors by a panel builder? \n


### Human: CompactLogix L43 with PowerFlex 4 on 22-SMC-232 Guys,Anyone knows how to setup CompactLogix DF1 port for serial communication with PowerFlex 4 through 22-SMC-232? Customer is using 22-SMC as RTU Master. The only time when i got any action on the converter module is when CompactLogix DF1 is set as DH485. Just want to make sure i'm on the correct path here...thanks for any help.ReagrdsRobert ### Assistant: The controller serial port should be configured to use DF1 protocol, as the 22-SCM-232 provides both media (RS232 to RS485) and protocol (DF1 to Modbus RTU) conversions.I suggest to review the 22-SCM-232 User Manual , chapter 3 and 4 for all the settings, App. H for an example about the Powerflex control from ControlLogix / Compactlogix serial port. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Error Connecting to PF70 Using Drive Executive over RSLinx I have connected to several drives using Drive Executive Lite and RSLinx over an ethernet link to 20-COMME adapters in PowerFlex70 drives and configured them. Now I am getting an RSLinx error when trying to connect that says it cannot upload the device definition from the path. It also says: 'The following error is created by RSLinx: DTL_E_Fail, I/O completed with errors.' I can access other Rockwell devices online from the same link. Can anybody shed any light on this? ### Assistant: Hi rtissier, and welcome to the Forum ! Try to take a look to the following Knowledgebase technote: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/58381 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: MPL Motor Weight I have searched all over the place, including the motor manuals for the MPL motors, and I can not find the motor weights listed anywhere. I want to use an MPL-A330P-MJ74AA and I simply can not find the weight of the darn thing. Can someone point me in the right direction? ### Assistant: Hi jdiroff, and welcome to the Forum ! :smileyhappy: Please review the Motion Selection Guide, see page 17 to find the approx. weight for your motor... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Looking for serial comm module to add two serial ports to 1756 system I have looked all over and I can not find a two port RS-232 serial interface card for my 1756 Contrologix system. Can anyone help? ### Assistant: Try to search HERE ... Prosoft is a Rockwell Automation Encompass Product Partner I suggest the MVI56-GSC or the MVI56E-GSC Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: MULTIPLLE PF400 ON MODBUS I HAVE 3 PF400 DRIVES ON MODBUS. THESE DRIVES ARE TO BE INDEPENDENTLY STARTED AND STOPPED . THE DRIVE NODES ARE SET TO 19.2KB SPEED . THE MODBUS MASTER IS MICROLOGIX1400 AND ON CH0. FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES, SOMETIMES I HAVE TO ELECTRICALLY ISOLATE A DRIVE. WHEN I ISOLATE A DRIVE( POWER DOWN) THE MESSAGE INSTRUCTION FAULTS AND LOSES COMMUNICATION TO THE OTHER 2 DRIVES. TO EACH DRIVE, IAM SENDING IN/OUT 6 MESSAGE INSTRUCTIONS ( FOR STATUS READ, SPEED REFERENCE, AND OTHER PARAMETER READS). HERE, I CANNOT DO A BROADCAST COMMAND USING REGISTER 16 IN MODBUS, SINCE EACH OF THE DRIVE ARE TO BE STARTED AND STOPPED INDEPENDENTLY AND THE SPEED REFERENCE TOO SHALL VARY. PLEASE HELP ME FIX THIS PROBLEM. ### Assistant: If you post the program (or at least the Message instruction control portion), a Forum member may be able to help you. There is no reason that you cannot write a program that communicates successfully to 1, 2, or 3 drives, even if one or more is powered down. You can write a fully functional Command / Status / Monitoring application over Modbus to PowerFlex drives with only four messages per drive. Message 1: Write Command and Reference.Message 2: If Command/Reference fails due to Comms Timeout being nonzero, write Comms Timeout value.Message 3: If Command/Reference succeeds, read Status / Feedback.Message 4: Read Parameters using DPI Object Scattered Read function. Repeat for each drive. If any of the four messages fails on a Timeout, the message sequence should jump to the next drive's Messages. \n


### Human: DriveExecutive requires Administrator rights Using DriveExecutive ver 5.01 to connect to a PowerFlex drive requires the user have administrator rights to the computer. Referring to Answer 54009http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/54009This issue is over a year old. Has anyone found a work around? Does everyone just give all users administrator rights? We did some trials where an admin-level user opened each and every drive in order to build all of the databases, but it was still inconsistent (and a lot of work to set up). Regular users still got an error some of the time. ### Assistant: Try to see if there is something interesting you inside Aid 41504... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: catalog number i have 4 power flex 70 ac drives in a wastewater plant, and having a problem trying to dechiper the catalog number. the submittals call for a(2163qa-014nkb-14co-14hba3-14rlx-41ca-98x9x). i know that the 14hba3 is screen option,but what is the rest of it?thanks ### Assistant: One question, are they in MCCs? I ask as the part number you submitted looks like an MCC part number. The drive part number would actually be on the side of the drive inside the enclosure/MCC section. \n


### Human: Servo Over temperature Hi everyone,Does anybody know how can I see the actual current my servo is consuming? It is triggering for error E04 (MotorOvertempFault) and I do not know how can I check its current. Thanks ### Assistant: Hi fraviere, not an expert on this, just trying to help... :smileysurprised: Take a look to Aid 46923 and see if it can help.Also review Appendix C of the Motion modules User Manual (and page 368) to understand how to get Axis Attributes. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 1336 drive Please , I have AC drive 1336 plus 2 , and we missing the password for login , is there a master password for 1336 plus 2 , or what your recommendation to solve this problem.Thanks ### Assistant: Call in Rockwell Automation Technical Support for your Region, they will help you to bypass the drive password without resetting all the parameters to factory default. Please be aware the suggested method or infos you will get from them should not be posted here (although many users may well know it ! :smileytongue: ) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: How to communicate1756-L61 to third party drives via ethernet? Hello, We are using SEW-MOVIFIT drives for our application.Its communicate through Enternet.I want to know the IO configuration Requirement and How to read write datas from 1756-L61. ### Assistant: Usually here is better to ask the informations to the manufacturer of the Ethernet/IP interface... Anyway, I've found some informations maybe useful for you in THIS Manual, chapter 6. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Sercos Ring Fault FYI Experienced a sercos ring fault on a 21 axis machine. After hours of troubleshooting found that an input to axis 19 was intermittently shorting. When this power is shorted it causes the whole drive to shutdown/power down, which then makes it look like a Sercos Fault. There was no indication of a grounded input. By luck we happened to see this drive physically shut off first. I disconnected the I/O connector and ran w/o it for a short while and had no issues.For the final fix I replaced the shorted cable and installed illuminated fuse holder in-line w/ the 24V out of the drive. Then split out of the fuse holder to the prox and a solid state relay. I then used the relay to send an input to the PLC incase this should happen again for HMI indication. ### Assistant: Good information to have, but what was the drive type, K6K, K2K, U3K,...? \n


### Human: Moving While Gearing I need consultation about MAM over MAG instruction. My system is combine with 1 virtual axis that run in fix speed, it' s belt coveyor and another axis is film feeding (A-B motor, MPL series and controlled with Kinetix6K). I've problem of deviation of belt conveyor speed that effect to servo speed that run by MAG instruction( belt conveyor is master and servo is slave). After I read Help document on RSLogix5000 in topic that we can put MAM instruction to conpensate the error but in Help document no have any sample code to apply to my system. Could you please recommend me or give me some sample code. Thank you **************************message for Help DocumentMoving While GearingAn incremental MAM instruction may be used for the slave axis (or master axis if the Axis Type is configured as Servo) while the electronic gearing is enabled. This is particularly useful to accomplish phase advance/retard control. The incremental move distance can be used to eliminate any phase error between the master and the slave, or to create an exact non-zero phase relationship. Incremental MAM instruction may also be used in conjunction with electronic gearing to compensate for material slip.Normally a gear ratio of 1 is used with phase adjustment. A 1:1 ratio ensures that the computed phase error does not change before performing the move to correct it. Electronic gearing is not normally used with absolute moves, since the ultimate endpoint is not predictable. To successfully execute a Motion Axis Gear instruction, the targeted axis must be configured as a Servo Axis Type and the axis must be in the Servo On state. If any of these conditions are not met than the instruction errors. ### Assistant: I believe you are mixing terms. A virtual axis exists only in the control code. It has no real component at all. If you want your film axis slave to follow your belt conveyor, there must be an encoder attached to the belt conveyor. The encoder can be wired into the K6K drive to its aux. encoder input. You would then use this encoder as a servo axis. You cannot issue motion commands, but you can issue home commands to it, and use it as the master axis for MAG. When I create drive trains as you describe, I add a scaling tag to the gear ratio. I would create a tag something like:GEAR_RATIO = MASTER_VALUE/SLAVE_VALUE*SCALING_FACTOR Usually, SCALING_FACTOR is equal to 1.0. A small variation away from 1.0 allows for the physical world (slippage of film, tolerance of drive roller, etc.) without ruining the basic factors. \n


### Human: Entering decimals into SCP Possible? We have a powder paint line that has a conveyor that we have always ran from 0 ft/min to 10ft/min. We have tried to use decimals like 6.2 ft/min but the Logix500 Ladder Logic will not take it. We are on a quite old version of the software Version 3.01 from 1999 or so. Is their a way around it so we can enter 6.2?What we have:Scale w/ParametersInput N7:6 Input Min. 0 Input Max. 10Scaled Min. 6242 Scaled Max. 31208Current input 4 Output O:12.3 = 16228. I really what to say with feet and not transfer over to inches. ### Assistant: Allow N7.6 input to range from 0 to 100. 6.2 would be entered as 62.10.0 would be entered as 100. 0 correlates to your scaled min of 6242, and 100 correlates to your scaled max of 31208. \n


### Human: Where are the CAM points stored? In a system I've got a virtual axis and a physical axis. Using a MAPC Instruction I control the physical axis depending on the position of the virtual one with the CAM editor, but.... where are those CAM points stored? I've looked inside all the tags created and couldn't find them... any help, please¿ ### Assistant: The CAM_PROFILE data type is an array of coefficients representing a calculated cam profile that can be used as input to a time cam or position cam instruction. The only element available to you is Status. This is different from the CAM data type... The Cam data type consists of slave and master point pairs as well as an interpolation type. Since there is no association with a specific axis position or time, the point values are unit-less. The interpolation type can be specified for each segment as either linear or cubic. See also Aid 62304 ... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Powerflex 700 VC Series B Firmware I can't run the .msi files for the Powerflex 700 VC Ser. B fimware V6 or V7. All other .msi files work (PF 70EC, 20-COMM-E and 20-COMM-Q). It returns an error that states it is not a valid windows installer package. I have tried on 3 different PCs and it doesn't work on any of them. Any help? ### Assistant: Just tried downloading from the following link: http://www.ab.com/support/abdrives/webupdate/firmware/PF700VCB_7_001_165_Update.msi It downloads as .txt file, just removed the .txt extension, leaving .msi.... it works fine for me. Here attached the file I've used (inside a .zip file) Let us know.... - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: Powerflex 700 in Torque mode Anyone have any good examples or know where I can look for running a PF700 in torque mode? Thanks Kevin ### Assistant: Start, of course, with the User Manual (20B-UM002) and the Reference Manuals (PFLEX-RM001 and PFLEX-RM004). What is your application like ? The PowerFlex drive Application Sets might match what you're doing: http://www.ab.com/drives/drvappsw/ Here's a query to the Literature Website that delivers all the Publications on PowerFlex 700: http://tinyurl.com/ydg9wxe \n


### Human: Kinetix 6000 Line Interface Module I have a case where I need to add a second Kenetix 6000 rack in the same panel as an existing Kinetix 6000. I am not finding specific information regarding whether the Line Interface Module (2094-BL02) can be used for both racks (providing I stay within the current limitations of the unit) ### Assistant: The 2094 Line Interface Module was originally intended for use with single-rack Kinetix 6000 Multi-Axis servo drive systems; however, application requirements have expanded this limitation to allow for use with multiple parallel AC/DC power loads.See Aid 33313 for details... this is intended to be used with 2094-AL75S, 2094-BL75S, 2094-XL75S-C2, 2094-XL75S-C1 BE AWARE :Do not use 2094-AL09 or 2094-BL02 to drive multiple loads in parallel. This equipment is not designed with built-in short circuit protection.Also, the built-in AC filter does not satisfy CE compliance for parallel loads. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: RIO adapter 1336- MOD-G2 with PF 70 I am replacing a 1336 drive with a PowerFlex 70. The 1336 is controlled by a PLC 5/40 through RIO adapter ### Assistant: I'm not aware of such a possibility...the only old interfaces that can work with Powerflex 70EC Drives are the Scanport adapters. Here you've to use a 20-COMM-R inside the PF70, modifying the actual PLC5 program as needed... see Aid 45063 which contains some informations about this communication. - fuzzy logic \n


### Human: 1756-IF4FXOF2F Analog Module I am new to Allen Bradley and am trying to get up to speed with RSLogix 5000. I am looking to see if someone could steer me in the right direction for some good documentation on analog programming. To start with I would like to supply an input with a 0-10V signal, and scale the output to follow the input signal. After this, I would like to program the output to ramp up and down from 0-10 volts by using 2 push buttons. I have read the 1756-IF4FXOF2F manual and understand the setup and scaling documentation. However, I have not been able to find any straight forward documentation on how to get started with the programming. I would like to stick with ladder logic programming for now. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated. In addition, I am using control logix with a 5563 processor. ### Assistant: Hello, What type of contoller are you using now? RSLogix 5000 software has comprehensive help built into the software. If you are not familar at all with the Logix system it can seem odd at fisrt. You may want to check out the Instruction refrence manual that covers alot of instructions and how they work. A getting started manual is not published because rockwell want's you to purchase training. \n


### Human: Error E64 (Kinetix 6000 2094-xxxx-x) Regarding E64 (Kinetix 6000 2094-xxxx-x), it happened in 5 axis of my production line (about 85 axis) Actually we see this issue every week. What we did: 1,For the 1st action, we used tie wrap to fasten feedback cable connector at motor end. This allowed us to run for 1 hr then stopped due to E64 again.2,For the 2nd action, we replace the feedback cable. This allowed us to run for other 2 hr, then stopped due to E64 again.3.For the 3rd. action, we replace the Kinetix This allowed us to run for other 2 hr, then stopped due to E64 again.4.For the 4th. Action we find the feedback low profile connector (Kinetix feed back cable connector) that we are having across the line The clam was holding the feed back cable isolation rubber not the exposed braided shield in some of the connector. We plan to turn the low profile connector clam over to hold all the servo motor feed back cable secure.5.for the 5th. Action Kinetix 6000 temperature too high.• Check for clogged vents or defective fan• Ensure cooling is not restricted by insufficient spare around the unit • Verify ambient temperature is not too high We try to cool down the servo motor 6.for The 6th. action, we replaced motor. This issue does not happen again until now.Type of defected motor :MPL-B540K-MJ24AAMPL-B540K-MJ22AA 1326AB-B720E-M2K7L According to Trouble shooting GuideE64 MotorFeedbackNoise (Mtr Fdbk Noise) is Noise on motor feedback cablePotential Cause is: Recommended grounding, per installation instructions, has not been followed. Possible Resolution is: Verify grounding.  Route feedback cable away from noise Sources.  Refer to System Design for Control of Electrical Noise Reference Manual(publication GMC-RM001).This issue stop my production line:544 min / 85 stop for MPL-B540K-MJ24AA 527 min / 24 stop for MPL-B540K-MJ24AA The input of Rockwell Esupport is: There are no known issues about these motors causing E64, feedback noise. Usually this type of fault is caused by the feedback cable or poor bonding for noise prevention. I am sure that these replacement motors are good, but if the problem comes back please inspect and clean the connector on the motor end of the feedback cable. I would also like to send to you a document on how to assemble the low profile feedback connector to verify that the shield is properly bonded to the cable clamp. Please advise. ### Assistant: According to your point #4, you show that you do not have the shielding properly bonded to the feedback connector. This is the path to ground for any noise that may be on the signal. Also make sure your motor power cable has the exposed shield under the clamp as well. Making sure that all components are grounded properly can help resolve this issue. Have tech support send you the feedback wiring recommendation that they mentioned. Are there AC line filters installed on the incoming line?Are there MOV's installed on your AC contactors?Are there MOV's/diodes installed on your DC contactors? All of these items can effect the noise on a signal line. \n


### Human: Unwind/Winder Application I have an application that currently has two unwinds, idlers and a winder. Basically, it is a machine that takes two unwind rolls and glues them together to wind them. I am looking at replacing the current air/disk brake control on the unwinds as well as the main drive. There are two load cells that control tension for each unwind and then the main drive runs as the winder. We were looking to replace this control scheme with Kinetix 6000 but I have never done a servo web handling application. Does anyone have any recommendations or concerns? I have dealt with unwind/winders with dc and ac drives but not servos. The customer wants servo control to keep things are pricise as they can get.. Any help would be appreciated.. Thanks, ### Assistant: Just a few thoughts, the servos have several different configurations that might help you. You can have the loop control position, speed, or torque. So for example you might control torque on the unwinds to provide resistance to the winder, which would be controlled by the load cell. Or you might run it in velocity mode and adjust the speed based on the cells. Another interesting option would be to run the axis in Dual Position Servo mode. You would use a small encoder on the load cell, assuming the arm moved radially like a dancer. This aux encoder would provide the position reference. So you set the move instruction to go to a specific dancer position, and the servo will automatically adjust the speed of the unwind accordingly. You'd basically be using the drive firmware to control the loop rather than something running manually. Many ways to tackle this. \n