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gr8kamon
The ole late December preseason game.
false
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GhostdadUC
Le Batard is one of the saltiest reporters in the business. What exactly is Curry getting away with? There are plenty of cocky players in the NBA and they show it on the court as well.
false
low
42,981,869
d30ecu5
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mrsuns10
What does calories and thermodynamics have to dow with each other?
false
low
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jetveritech
i agree but you gotta admit, a who-didn't-vote-for-curry witch hunt would be fun and a little dramatic
false
low
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d30ecn2
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mdeadline
Wtf tacos are sandwiches now?. What is a burrito then
false
medium
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d30ecme
t3_4ir7n5
t3_4ir7n5
nba
JaceGhost
Typical JR. Next thing you know, someone will have catfished him by changing their profile pic to a grow farm.
false
low
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d30eci1
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Nietzsche_Darko
Why does Westbrook deserve a vote? Honestly he's a great player and def a superstar but I don't see how he deserves MVP votes over those guys and Harden.
false
low
42,981,874
d30ecgi
t3_4ir7vh
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EvenGandhiHatesLVG
"Getting away with being cocky" As if it's a fucking crime to be arrogant, or as if it's even possible at all to be so insanely good at something like basketball without being cocky.
false
high
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d30ecdm
t1_d30cwvs
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nba
Sportsball_
Really? I think their current jerseys look way better.
false
high
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d30ecas
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rjvir
Nah, for some reason we're giving the Kings the benefit of the doubt now. Apparently they've earned it.
false
low
42,981,877
d30ec6w
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fifaman1662
I was just thinking the same thing. If anyone else danced like him, we'd hate them...but he's so small and cute with his little shirt and little pants that its just adorable
false
high
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d30ec3i
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HelloImSlade
Being an asshole and getting cocky, bringing your emotions into the game too much, etc
false
low
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HeavenHole
Yeah before last few years it was like 40 fucking years actually.
false
medium
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d30ebzy
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WorkAccount83
I'm glad the /r/nba is still the shitshow it is! love it! don't ever stop!
false
low
42,981,881
d30ebwo
t3_4iqj0q
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JTres3
Ray Allen's Game 6 three against the Spurs and Kobe Bryan'ts game winner bank shot against the Heat.
false
low
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d30ebw6
t1_d30cdrh
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imthegenius
the hockey assists are definitely because of his efficiency... but shouldn't be held against him for taking advantage of them. He's still top 10 in assists despite defenses having to play him that way. I don't think it's fair to say he's just "pretty good" at passing... go back and watch some of his assist highlights, the guy has amazing court vision, and the coordination that lets him make 3s and layups more efficiently than anyone in the game doesn't hurt his passing ability. Totally agreed that Lebron has been the king of getting teammates involved, and it's always pissed me off when people give him shit for passing/not having that killer instinct... I think the difference, this year especially, has been the timeliness of when Steph chooses to get his team involved vs. take over himself. I think Westbrook in particular, sometimes chases stats to the detriment of his team, and I think it's a little unfair to label Curry as a one trick pony.
false
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d30ebun
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Swazzoo
Sweet, how long does this take to make on average?
false
low
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GregMonroe
She didn't think he desrved any? She's wrong then.
false
high
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d30ebis
t1_d307esx
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choochooBandwagon
Yes, so pound cake is pound cake. There's no confusion there.
false
low
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d30ebh8
t1_d303wre
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lemonl1m3
Russ will definitely get an MVP before all is said and done
false
low
42,981,887
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t1_d30dh5c
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IzzDogz
I think he had a lot of issues with the Grizzlies management, and never felt appreciated there. I am sure the Kings rolled out the red carpet and showed them how much they wanted him to be ve apart of the org. I'm sure that felt good to him, no matter what org he works for. Using "humbled" in this way means that he almost feels undeserving of how the Kings org has treated him through the process and being ao coveted.
false
medium
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mrsuns10
The Cake is a lie!
false
low
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Yelloboy
we have a different definition of "good" obviously
false
low
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d30eb66
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FaithIsFoolish
So you're saying yes, they should have had some jackass not vote for Curry just for the sake of precedent.
false
low
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d30eb5g
t1_d30bg8r
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darkknightwinter
[Gotta upvote Tucker Wittenberg.](http://i.imgur.com/KBpuTt4.jpg)
false
low
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d30eb4n
t1_d30dco4
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Ieatcreampie
Wait, what? What's gator load... Are you pulling my leg?
false
low
42,981,893
d30eawf
t1_d3093do
t3_4iqkuh
nba
Hot_Lanta
Didn't Durant play at Texas? Edit: derp. Title said Multiple Years. I was looking for the other person who didn't play college ball at all.
false
medium
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d30eaw1
t1_d30dag9
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WorldTechToys
Between him and Kobe
false
low
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d30eak1
t3_4ir6xa
t3_4ir6xa
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GuacIsOverrated
a lot of people seem to be realizing that tim duncan is old
false
medium
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t1_d302ofy
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takeapieandrun
That voice too.. solid
false
low
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GurleyThings
It's okay. I just thought I'd point it out.
false
low
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mrsuns10
yeast? I though you said weast
false
medium
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ccvssd
Lebron should get the honorary MVP every year just for being motherfucking Lebron
false
high
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mrsuns10
No Patrick Mayonaise is not a bread
false
medium
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BasedGodProdigy
which is good for the sport. there should already have been unanimous winners but hopefully this sets a precedent for the future.
false
medium
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t3_4ir6xa
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rbmw263
Very unlikely the Spurs lose the last 3 games of the series. Very.
false
low
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t1_d301zfn
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GurleyThings
Or a rape victim will be taken back to one of the most traumatic experiences of their life. But okay.
false
low
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d30e9hh
t1_d30dr11
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Nietzsche_Darko
Yeah I still don't understand how Westbrook is considered better than Harden and how he got more MVP votes this year. More fuel to Harden's fire I suppose.
false
low
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d30e9go
t3_4ir1c4
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maalbi
repeat of game 1 in this series
false
medium
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mrsuns10
Angel Dust......Sherman Hensley
false
low
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richp1180
Maybe not 60, but 50-55 wouldn't be inconceivable. Still would have a top 3 shooter in the game, as well as a top 10 player in Draymond. Still would have Iggy, Barnes, Bogut, Livingston, etc.
false
medium
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InternetShitTalker
Of course not, what he meant was the voters are a joke. Lebron will never get an unanimous vote because he is the NBA's villain, and some of these voters (if you go look up the years Lebron won) clearly would vote for anyone but Lebron. Curry on the other hand is beloved by all, both the fans and media, NBA's golden boy. Can't take that away from him, it takes both skills and charisma (and not doing that one stupid shit on television) to pull this off.
false
medium
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d30e8y7
t1_d30ctr7
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UnimpressedAsshole
sure, but sometimes the opinion is hating rather than constructive
false
low
42,981,910
d30e8xo
t1_d30dr11
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Weavvv
Shit, Rachel Nichols had a mini rant about the fact that Harden got ANY top 5 votes.
false
high
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d30e8w4
t1_d305tvt
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Thegenesisfreak
Both 360ing and no scoping are verbs, in fact, I'd say 360 is an adverb in the given context.
false
medium
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DougBlasingame
that's a good one and a new one to me
false
low
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Westbrook_Level
But the cold stretches seem to occur in the playoffs, that is a sign of a deeper problem.
false
low
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mrsuns10
What? I'm not grilling you a cheese!
false
low
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nba
Tuckboi
And after Dwight, I think Dirk had a good case as well. 23-7 on 51% fg and 39% 3pt. And the Mavs were like 0-7 when he didn't play.
false
medium
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d30e8ht
t3_4ir036
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resjudicata2
Well, I had a lot of potential in my prime and never lived up to the hype either. It qualifies me to make crazy statements.
false
low
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d30e8hs
t3_4in6bo
t3_4in6bo
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Aintboutdatlyfe
The circle jerk has reached critical mass. This is bullshit. Our enjoyment (Raptors fans) shouldn't matter how shitty we're playing as long as we are winning. We're playing great defence and more likely than not to make it to the ECF. Can we not be allowed to enjoy what little success we have? who gives a fuck if it's ugly. Making an ugly ass playoff run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Making a pretty first round exit/missing the playoffs.
false
low
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JuanRobesPierre
Improved by 10% on 2's means he's a much better finisher, and the 3P% has gone up even though his volume has more than doubled. His percentages are better even though he's shooting more. That's hard to do.
false
medium
42,981,919
d30e85t
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Terranwaterbender
I dunno about you but our run in 2009 was tough as fuck and Houston could have easily stolen the series from us.
false
medium
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d30e85s
t3_4iqrvb
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rosterplayer99
we are so lucky his ankles healed up, would have been a shame to never see him reach his potential
false
medium
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d30e7xo
t1_d30dva2
t3_4iqauk
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Drak_is_Right
Oh absolutely, though you lose a tiny bit of efficiency by having 1 play a bit off their optimal position. Granted, PG13 would probably be a top 2 SG (though that is more the strength of the SF position and most of the best guards are PGs).
false
low
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d30e7us
t3_3taglm
t3_3taglm
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ajwhitt44
Can you please update this!
false
low
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d30e7nk
t1_d30dwjy
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nba
thefx37
99% of them did. Griffey doesn't get a gold star on his bust for being unanimous, he get's the same treatment as everyone else in the Hall.
false
low
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d30e7m8
t3_4iqauk
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jphamlore
In my opinion, the Thunder not having won a championship is solely due to management's apparent inability to hire a head coach who can get the entire team to buy into a good defensive system. Golden State started their championship run precisely when they developed a defense that people could describe with a straight face as a candidate for best in the league. The Thunder have height and athleticism at almost every position. There is no excuse for them to not be defensive terrors, especially in the post-Shaq era.
false
low
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d30e7k9
t3_4ir6xa
t3_4ir6xa
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1moreban
How will you get off once he is gone?
false
low
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OllieWillie
It's got a shit load of honey in with that yeast and flour. Cake.
false
low
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d30e7ac
t1_d302v8r
t3_4ipyre
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mrsuns10
I am serious and dont call me shirley
false
low
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d30e79f
t3_4ir1c4
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IzzDogz
Spurs by 12. Will be ve somewhat close and then they will pull away late third early fourth.
false
low
42,981,929
d30e788
t1_d30e41w
t3_4ir6xa
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waswereual
That doesn't change the it from "could" even of you give okc a 33% chance in both games. It's still an 11% chance the series ends
false
low
42,981,930
d30e735
t1_d30ay8u
t3_4ipymh
nba
WorldTechToys
Why would you got down voted? Lebrons last 28 points were much more impressive vs the world champ pistons. Ohh its all the bandwagon warrior fans and the ex laker fans pretending they were warrior fans for more than 2 years.
false
low
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d30e72f
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richp1180
That's my thing. Any other player who's been considered the "Best in the game" started out clearly in a linear path towards becoming the best in the game, except Steph. Since I've never seen anything like it, and I see his shooting percentage #s aren't that significantly better than they were from what he started at, what else is it? I am not trying to argue against Steph, rather I am trying to wrap my head around how he got to where he is in years 6 and 7 without showing the flashes of this consistently in years 1-5
false
low
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devil_shamdevil
Those mix tapes from 3/4 years ago were pretty sweet tho.
false
medium
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t1_d30de8j
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nba
HITMAN616
That's the crazy thing about how well their Klay/Dray/Steph draft picks have worked out... I mean I don't know much about salary cap shit but if all you have to do is get rid of a few guys and keep your top three players to sign another huge free agent, it seems like a no-brainer. It's possible KD will want to stay with Russ and try to compete with the Dubs somewhere else for a championship though.
false
medium
42,981,934
d30e6v6
t3_4ir5xf
t3_4ir5xf
nba
SuperBowlPacker420
Quality starter as stretch 4 in like 2-4 years. You don't gotta be strong to play the 4 anymore. If Jon Leuer can be a starter so can he
false
low
42,981,935
d30e6qc
t1_d30d5he
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nba
scrbroy
Simple: less injuries
false
low
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d30e6ok
t1_d308aol
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AhmedF
lol Wiggins will not be an MVP candidate.
false
medium
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d30e6he
t1_d30e41w
t3_4ir6xa
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DemonicDimples
He hasn't commented on retiring just that if he did retire it wouldn't be like Kobe did.
false
low
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d30e6at
t1_d30dvqc
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Benjalzz
He was INJURED his first few years playing with Monte fucking Ellis! Playing with a dominant in efficient volume scorer will inevitably leave you with less shots and take away from you can do on the court. Also, he's not a fucking Saiyan that transformed to Super-Saiyan 4, he's the same dude, he is just more aggressive. He's always been an offensive monster, just watch his college days. The difference is durability first, aggression second, and his amazing team third. Now I'm not saying he would win 73 on the Bob-Hornets but he would still be an unparalleled unstoppable shooting enigma.
false
low
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ForeverFun
that's been Curry's MO for a while now. he has been underestimated and dismissed a lot in his life and it fuels him. but he doesn't try to be a douche about it.
false
low
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d30e635
t3_4ipcu9
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neonmadmen
This game was more clear that Kerr was outcoached.
false
low
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Hawkize31
Noone can see past 6-0 right now, but as the stats continue to pile on, LeBron's case builds. When Lebron finishes #1 or 2 all time in scoring, top 5 in assists, and has 10 finals appearances and 2-4 wins, its going to be a real close debate I think.
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UnimpressedAsshole
you have nostalgia goggles Curry is insane
false
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GregMonroe
That's not true. You're just making shkt up rn. There were 15 "good" teams. There were only 4-5 elite teams which is the same as it is every sinlge year. There were 2 teams that were outright tanking (tanking has existed for decades btw).
false
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rebeltrillionaire
Wait how is that his *best* case? Isn't his *best case* that he returns to MVP form after his first full healthy season?
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Umbricon
Here are some thoughts I have after watching the previous games. * I think Pop is gonna look to solve the defensive threat of Steven Adams. He's my X-factor for the Thunder this series, and I think if they somehow manage to stun the Spurs and win the series, he'd have played a big part in their series win. * Building off that point, I think Pop will try to isolate Adams and attack the weak side, or try and get him in foul trouble. I don't think he plays Aldridge at the 5 on a regular basis, but it'd be interested to see if he tries that to get Adams away from the basket. * For the Thunder, I would hope that they do put Adams on Aldridge more, at least to try and stop him from taking over. * I like Kawhi on Russ for the Spurs. The biggest secret about the Thunder is the fact that Durant struggles to abuse bad matchups. We put Chris Paul on him in 2014 and he failed to take advantage, and it's mainly his lack of post game. Meanwhile, Kawhi is the perfect type of player to bring out the Worstbrook. * A lot has been said about Westbrook being too aggressive on the glass, but more importantly for OKC is getting Kawhi off him, because the Spurs' weak links on defense is their undersized point guards, and Westbrook's underrated post game can give them nightmares if they find a way to provide that opening. * Speaking of abusing post matchups, I hope Billy Donovan calls some plays for Kanter on the block, especially when the Spurs' bench bigs are in. West and Diaw are decent enough defenders, but Kanter's size and soft touch can be the difference between a dismal bench performance and a game-changing run. In any case, I'm loving the series so far, and I can't wait for tonight's game.
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Greas3dLightning
Okc-Memphis from 2 years ago ruined a lot of lives as well.
false
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HideAndSeek
MJ is a complete addict. Full of resent and insatiable drive. It was how he internalized those "perceived" slights that fueled his fire. Does that clear it up for you?
false
medium
42,981,948
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8512332158
All defense team is a joke. Kobe regularly got voted in on that when he was old and not playing D anymore
false
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dmstorm22
The 0.4 seconds shot, the gift that keeps on fucking the Spurs.
false
medium
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d30e4rn
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thefx37
You're telling me to "stop giving false narratives" when you're making them yourself. This whole voting 100% thing is a non-issue when you think it is. Not even [Griffey](http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14517514/ken-griffey-jr-mike-piazza-voted-cooperstown-baseball-hall-famers) cares. I don't understand why you're so mad over this.
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mSFd
Sends 3 for every three he made. So over 1200 this year. Dude is a class act.
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DVSWhatItDoes
I'd be more than down for the Warriors to snag him at the end of the 1st round. He can take his time developing in Santa Cruz
false
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d30e4c8
t1_d30cqer
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Taxonomyoftaxes
Yes, the moreytron 3000 should give the MVP every year to the player with the highest win shares per 48. Please hold the upcurrys
false
low
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NotClayMerritt
Man.... this Heat team would be the best team in the NBA 5 years ago. You could argue that all of these players in their prime would be better than any of the LeBron-Wade-Bosh teams.
false
low
42,981,955
d30e41y
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phonage_aoi
Beats me, but that's how tomato paste is classified - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-as-a-vegetable-notexactly/2016/04/01/95bbbe3a-13f6-11e1-9048-1f5352187eed_blog.html The funny thing is the article even compare the nutritional value to sliced apples...
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WallStar206
1) He hasn't said that he is retiring yet. 2) I would put good money that if the spurs lose this series it will be in 7
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mimpatcha
You need too call up your Jimmy John's. Mine have never looked that bad
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WorldTechToys
Who cares about the pre season. We are talking about Legends that show up when it matters most
false
low
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CronusThrowsPunches
He's one bad man.
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t3_4inuzo
nba
hoffmanmclaunsky
I think Jackson could do really well in Indy. He just needs to hire a great offensive minded assistant for PG and Monta
false
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t3_4ir1c4
t3_4ir1c4
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Barneys_New_WestGOAT
Duncan goes for 20 and 10 but Westbrook will have a 30 point triple double and KD will go for 30+ as okc eeks out a victory
false
low
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solanasol
If you don't worship Curry the playoff bandwagoners come after you.
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HITMAN616
I respectfully disagree...
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moistbaguette
Someone else could probably explain this better than I can, but I'll give it a shot. At one point, I was kind of like you. I'd watch it for an episode or two and got tired of the shtick I guess. Lots of yelling, sort of dumb humor sometimes, but I came around big time. All the main characters are over-the-top narcissistic and brutally honest with each other at all times. Lots of drinking, pranks, vulgarity, etc., so if that's not your thing, I wouldn't bother. But man, Howerton and McElhenney (Dennis and Mac) write the show and they just do an excellent job of encapsulating how fucking weird The Gang is but also how they have no earthly idea of it. If anything, they don't think they're even the slightest bit weird -- they think they're the fucking shit while everyone else sort of goes out of their way to avoid them. I'd tell you to start with Season 1, but that's before Frank (Danny DeVito) enters the picture. I don't know, I think it's definitely worth a shot. I'd give it a few seasons to come around on you if you ever decided it was worth your time. But as someone who also watched HIMYM, in my opinion, it's a million times better than that show.
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Dubisttot
We're too busy memeing over at r/mkebucks to worry about KD
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javi2123
Sadly I live through gifs of the NBA. Finals have me locked out, but the last one is in two days. How have the Spurs been holding up?
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